Today, it really was just a “Series of Unfortunate Events” Somehow or another, this team manages to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It never comes down to just one play, but one play that strongly affected what the Dolphins were trying to accomplish at the end of the game, which was to leave Justin Herbert and the LA Chargers very little time, maybe 10 seconds or probably even less before we scored the TD that gave us a short lived lead of 27-26 with just 46 seconds remaining. The play I’m speaking of was a pass play to WR Malik Washington at 00:59 in the game. A screen pass and Malik Washington took it towards the sidelines attempting to turn the corner but he was tackled, basically picked up and thrown out of bounds by Chargers nickel back Tarheeb Still. That play stopped the clock at 00:52. The next play, QB Tua Tagovailoa finds TE Darren Waller in the endzone for a TD with 00:46 seconds remaining. The extra point was good so we had the lead at 27-26.
Instead of kicking it out of the endzone, K Riley Patterson gives the Chargers a returnable kick at the 1 yard line and return it they do, as Chargers KR Nyheim Hines, just brought up from the PS today, returns the ball to the LA 41 yard line.The return takes 7 seconds off the clock, and Herbert under duress throws incomplete on 1st down leaving 00:34 seconds remaining. The next play would be “The Lucy” play, because the Dolphins pass rush gets to Herbert, but he shrugs it off, steps away and completes a pass to WR Ladd McConkey who avoids a tackler and takes the ball to the Miami Dolphins 17 yard line, knocked out of bounds by CB Jack Jones. The Chargers then run 2 plays to wind down the clock and force the Dolphins to use their timeouts, we had 2 remaining. With 00:09 seconds remaining, from the right hash, Chargers K Cam Dicker (Dicker the Kicker) nails the game winning FG leaving 00:05 on the clock for the Dolphins. Dicker the Kicker does his job and kicks the fuck outta the ball allowing no return for the Dolphins. Dolphins take over with 00:05 seconds at their own 35 yard line due to kick out of the end zone.
Could the Dolphins pull off another Miracle in Miami? Chargers defense is in the prevent, a few guys are deep, they rush 3 guys and few guys are mid deep. Tua takes the snap and fires 5-YARDS-DOWNFIELD to WR Nick Westbrook-Ikhine, maybe that was supposed to be the big surprise because it was his first target of the day, but the pass is quickly snuffed out by Pro Bowl and All-Pro S Derwin James to end the game. Like I said previously, one play never defines the entire game, that didn’t lose the game because it would have literally taken a another Miracle in Miami to win this one, but regardless of that fact, how do you throw the ball 5 yards when you need 65, and still get intercepted?
This will be the one game where Tua’s stat line will look worse than he actually played. His first INT, the very first pass play of the game was pass that WR Jaylen Waddle bobbled and at first glance, looked he lateraled the ball to Chargers SS Tony Jefferson. Waddle totally was at fault, it wasn’t Tua’s fault this time. Waddle bobbled it right into the defenders hands for an INT. Not a good start. The defernse wasn’t nearly as bad as previous weeks, we had a 13-9 lead at the half, so in my mind, holding the Chargers to 3 FG’s was a good showing for the woeful D.
In the 3rd quarter, the LA Chargers adjusted to the issues they were having on the right side of their O-line, and Herbert starting getting in a rhythm and RB Kimani Vidal started picking up huge chunks of yardage. The Chargers took 23-13 lead, scoring 14 unanswered points in the 3rd Quarter. RB Kimani Vidal finished with 18 carries for 124 yards, but Dolphins RB De’Von Achane was better, he finished with 128 yards on 16 carries and 2 TD’s. What would this team be without De’Von Achane? There are times when he IS the offense. Whether he’s running the ball or catching it, he does everything. Teams know this and that’s how Tua’s 2nd INT came about. Achane was set out wide in the slot, and Tua stared him down the entire time with 06:02 in the 3rd Quarter remaining. He’s great, but you have to use other players or defenses tend to concentrate on him, facilitating Tua’s 2nd INT. Tua’s final line was 21-35 205 yards, 1 TD and 3 INT’s. Definitely uglier than he played and this time he actually should have clinched the win for us on his second to last drive, but like I said earlier, a series of unfortunate events.
So now the team is 1-5, and in Tua’s presser after the game, he stated that players are not showing up for meeting, player only meetings, and others are coming late. There’s a leadership problem here, and that starts with the Head Coach. Mike McDaniel doesn’t seem to have the pulse, or respect of this team. In his presser, he said the team didn’t quit, he’d know by the 3rd quarter if that were the case, whatever the heck that means! GM Chris Grier missed on his first 2 picks in the draft. At #13 we took Michigan DT Kenny Grant. He’s been rated at the bottom of the barrel, and same goes for our next pick OG Jonah Savaiinaea, who we traded a 3rd RD pick in addition to our 2nd RD pick to move up in RD 2 to #37 to get him. By now, we know when Grier trades up for someone, that guy just ain’t gonna be worth it because he’s whiffed on every single trade up since he’s been here!
So 1-5, our rookies are struggling, one on offense and 1 on defense, you can’t blame the same position coaches for both of them, and our other rookies aren’t doing anything either really, which includes 5th RD picks DT Jordan Phillips and S Dante Trader, 6th RD pick RB Ollie Gordon who gets 2 carries a game, and 7th RD picks QB Quinn Ewers, who has been the emergency QB and in my estimation, we HAVE AN EMERGENCY!!!!! Time to get that kid meaningful practice reps with the ones and in a few weeks, let’s see what he can do! We also drafted DT Zeek Biggers in RD 7, and he’s been in the rotation on the D-line, not because he’s great, but because Grier left the cupboard bare and we basically have no choice but to start most of our rookies. He also had no choice to sign veteran CB’s Jack Jones and Rasul Douglas and just like signing DE/DT Calias Campbell last season, Grier gets no credit for that with me, just picking up leftovers. Before we give him credit for TE Darren Waller, let’s see how much he actually plays as he always seems to be QUESTIONABLE on the injury report and missed the first 3 games with a hip injury that I guess is still nagging.
If you look at this team’s future, even if you look as far as just this season, what’s left of it, it’s not pretty. We’re 1-5, and that almost guarantees we will not be in the playoffs, barring some sort of ridiculous turnaround here. This team is foundering, the finger pointing has begun, and the lack of real leaders on this team are showing what happens when that’s the case. Clearly, Mike McDaniels leaves a lot of responsibility on the players to police themselves and do what they need to do. He’s no disciplinarian, and he can’t become one either. If any of you were thinking DC Anthony Weaver is in line for HC, just know his defense is awful. You can take into account that the roster is weak, he needs to lean on a bunch of rookies on the D-line, and they have been pushed off the LOS as if they’re wearing roller skates at times, but what about the veterans like Zach Sieler, Jalean Phillips, Bradley Chubb etc etc. What the heck happened to Chop Robinson? That’s on Weaver!
This team was set up for the offense to carry it. QB tua Tagovailoa, RB De’Von Achane, WR’s Tyreek Hill (before he got injured) and Jaylen Waddle were supposed to make this team a contender, while the defense if Chubb, Phillips , Judon and Chop could bring some heat on opposing offense, along with solid tackling from the quality inside backers Jordyn Brooks, Tyrell Dodson, KJ Britt and Willie Gay cleaned up the tackling. Trading CB Jaeln Ramsey and TE Jonnu Smith for S Minkah Fitzpatrick has ended up a wash. Jonnu isn’t tearing it up for the Steelers and Jalen Ramsey is playing OK. Minkah is 3rd on the team in total tackles, and many of those are way downfield, chasing RB’s down after they got past the front 7, which happens all too often. Before this game (LOSS), the offense was ranked 21st. That’s just not good enough, not for a team that needed the offense to carry it. The defense is woeful, and I don’t expect it to get any better any time soon.
Heads should roll, and who replaces them in the interim isn’t my concern. This team is DOA after 6 games, so I don’t care if it’s Darrell Bevell (QB’s and Passing Game Coordinator), or FRank Smith (Offensive Coordinator) (Although McDaniel calls/called the plays), it doesn’t matter. I don’t care if it’s Anthony Weaver, although I don’t feel it’s deserved. Maybe he’s the best guy as far as getting the players attention, because that surely needs to happen. Whomever it is, they are a band aid on a shotgun wound that has bled out. The most important thing to me is that Stephen Ross, or whoever is making these decisions don’t try any half measures. They simply cannot fire Head Coach Mike McDaniel and call it a day. This two-headed snake stinks of rot and they both need to be cut off! Grier AND McDaniel MUST GO. Either both, or just the leave the rot until the end of the season.
GO DOLPHINS!!!
Finsmob Unleashed 
Just caught up. BBM slept all day. Guess I saved myself the frustration. Blow it up!
You sure did! We really should have won this one
Rockphin says: October 12, 2025 at 4:10 pm
so if we split with the Jets and each go one and 16 who gets the first pick?
asking for a friend
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It’s decided by strength of schedule
Right now, we’re tied with SOS with the Jets at .490. That will change as the season goes on, and obviously, they have 0 wins and are a game ahead of us.
We’re #4, behind Cleveland and Baltimore. Let’s make sure we jump ahead of them by losing next week!
We are still picking #4 after today’s games and that won’t change with the remaining games. Of the five 1-5 teams, the Browns and Ravens have had easier schedules than the Dolphins so they pick before us. The Saints and Titans have had harder schedules so they pick after us.
Thanks MikeE, beat me to it. lol
Of the current top 10 teams in the draft order, the Jets, Dolphins and Saints definitely need a QB. I guess you can throw the Browns in there.
Is there one that teams will be fighting and trading up over? I’d say no, not right now.
Since we’re stuck with Tua for at least another year, maybe the better play would be to trade down and load up 1st rd pics for 2027 when there may be some better qb options
They say that about QB classes in a lot of drafts and then all of a sudden, a few guys show up and become great prospects
It’s easy to say after the fact, but it’s the truth, I called the end of this game with about 5 and a half minutes left. I said we’d score a TD, screw up and leave enough time for the them to kick the game winner as time runs out.
Then MM calls an east/ west play when we just needed a simple run up the gut, Malik gets knocked out of bounds, and they save that last TO.
And I’m thankful it ended up this way. I genuinely don’t want to win another game. I want MM and Grier to finish out the season (so our interim doesn’t get the interim bump and win a couple), both get fired 5 seconds after the end of game 17, and go into the offseason with the top pick in the draft with the hope we can begin to build something worthy.
I believe you. I’m not worried about winning too many games with an interim coach as long as both Grier and McDaniel are gone. That’s my primary concern that both are gone. I legit will not be a fan of this team if either or both are here next year
Tuas presser is all you need to know there is no leadership in this organization. I’m glad that he is at least becoming visibly upset at it
As for the game….at least they showed some grit after their usual 2nd half let down.
I am fine with losing if it cleans house.
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I’m not sure why some are already dismissing this ’26 QB class as weak. There’s still plenty of time for risers (and fallers!), and we don’t know what style of QB the next regime would like to hitch their wagons to.
Maybe we’ll want a traditional pro-style pocket-passing QB, maybe a run-first QB (I hope not!), maybe a spread QB who can both pass and run, maybe a gunner of a QB, or maybe the strongest arm in the Draft QB.
All of that stated… if the new regime doesn’t like any of the ’26 QB prospects, I’m with Evan: perhaps trade down enough to garner an additional ’27 1st rounder to be used on a QB.
There’s only 1 potential problem with that. IF there’s a guy who is the future of a franchise (EDGE, WR, CB, OT), you don’t want to pass that player by in a trade down.
I’m sorry, y’all… but I’m already past Grier and McDaniel… they are already fired in my mind, it’s only a matter of when it’s made official.
Yes, both must go. Unfortunately, until they’re gone, I’ll worry that Ross might not be capable of doing what must be done
Now what would make you say something like that, huh? LOL 😉
If week after week watching a plethora of other QBs doesn’t show you how limited Tua is, I dont know what to tell you. Yeah yeah, I know he isn’t the main thing holding this team back, but it is a major piece that needs fixed. The entire league knows the limitations.
Hopefully the new GM and coach will find one.
Another 2nd half womp womp….Chargers make adjustments and our coaches dont.
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I wholeheartedly agree, ER… and I have for some time. Tua’s mandate from Grier is to play NOT to get hurt. He’s toast at that point.
One more concussion… he’s done.
I luv Tua, but even I know that it’s over for him.
Pieguy, we are not 100% stuck with Tua next year. He could be traded before the deadline this year and clear a bunch of cap that could be carried over to 2026 to offset his big dead cap hit. We would still be starting off at a -19m in 2026 cap though. Also, a team in playoff contention would need to lose their starting QB for this to happen.
The other possibility is trade Tua post 6/1 next year. It would clear 43m in cap in 2026. Though, that would come a little late to sign any good free agents. It would be a rebuilding year anyway.
Either scenario is not likely to happen though.
I’m just under the assumption that NOBODY is going to trade for him with that salary 😂😂 Hope I’m wrong, that would be a “best case scenario” which I’m not used to with this franchise 😂
Tua wants to win, IMO. If you play a game or sport, you want to win. Who doesn’t, but if we don’t win, he doesn’t seem to care by his comments. He doesn’t care what the fans think or feel either.
Tua is playing for a paycheck and that is it at this point. He got what he wanted which was security for him and his family.
I am so done with him and everyone should be also.
Pieguy says, “maybe the better play would be to trade down and load up 1st rd pics for 2027 when there may be some better qb options”
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You are 100% correct. Many of these QB’s we are talking about for this next draft have eligibility to stay another year to try and get a higher draft spot in 2027.
If I was a college QB and had another year of eligibility but currently had a 3rd round grade for the upcoming draft, I am staying another year. Especially since the NIL money I get for staying is going to be more than I get as a rookie 3rd round pick.
To be clear (<– I fuckin’ hate that political expression!), I’ve always defended Tua’s play. It’s not his fault he ended up with so many concussions behind an O-Line that wasn’t properly addressed by GM Grief. It’s not Tua’s fault that there’s been total clownery from Coach ‘Capri’ McD on down. It’s not Tua’s fault that the media has been overly critical of him since day 1 as a pro.
Tua has set MILESTONES for not only our beloved team, but also in the NFL.
He’s led the NFL in passing yardage, passer rating, and completion %… all in different seasons!!! THAT is something only a handful of GREATS have ever done in the history of the game.
Sadly enough, I unfortunately believe the ride is over for Tua.
And as I’ve stated to Mike E CONSTANTLY since last year at this time… 1 MORE CONCUSSION, AND TUA IS FINISHED.
We can’t win games with a damaged QB who is ordered to play NOT to get hurt. I’ve been sayin’ it since last season: Tua is one more hit away from becoming scrambled eggs (JT, talking about then QB Trent Green for us).
Man, I’m with you 100% on that. I loved Tua and MM both, and supported them all until this year. It’s not even the losing that soured me on them. It’s the complete lack of accountability. 2 years ago they knew how much the Fins meant to the fans. They promised us winning, and even began to deliver. But then this year man, they’re making the fans out to be bad guys, and it’s pretty disrespectful the way the speak in post game interviews. They don’t care anymore and just want to shift blame. They are the “leaders” of our team and forgot the meaning of “accountability” and that’s why they lost my respect.
All you need to know about Tua’s leadership is conveyed through MM: any coach who year after a year has to talk about how his quarterbacks leadership has grown shows that quarterback is not truly a leader.
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Seriously think about it… would Grief and McD have ruined the careers of both Justin Herbert and Jalen Hurts?
I don’t even need to blink when I say HELL YEAH.
QB’s with more eligibility: LaNorris Sellers, Dante Moore, Fernando Mendoza, Ty Simpson, John Mateer, Arch Manning, Sam Leavitt, Nico Iamaleava, Jaden Maiava, Jackson Arnold, Conner Weigman, Kevin Jennings, Aidan Chiles, Avery Johnson
College senior QB’s: Garrett Nussmeier, Cade Klubnik, Carson Beck, Drew Allar, Taylen Green, Luke Altmyer, Sawyer Robertson, Haynes King, Miller Moss, Diego Pavia, Jalon Daniels
That’s a lot who could decide to stay another year.
Pieguy, you are right. A team probably won’t want Tua’s contract especially with his injury history. His cap hit for the team trading for him would be 39m in 2026 and 37m in 2027. The rest is on the Dolphins in dead money.
I really don’t know why there isn’t more draft hype around Baylor senior QB Sawyer Robertson. He’s 6’4, 220 with a solid arm.
BTW, you heard his name called several times in the video, Michael Trigg would be an interesting day 3 TE pick. He’s ranked anywhere from a 3rd to a 5th round pick.
Michael Trigg is 6’4, 240. He’s a decent blocker, just inconsistent. He goes for the big hit when blocking but fails to sustain his blocks. He is compared to Brenton Strange, Isaiah Likely and Terrance Ferguson. Not bad comparisons.
“I want to know what part of this he’s going to take accountability for..Tua threw three picks today…Tua is third in the NFL with the most interceptions thrown by a quarterback.. If you haven’t said this privately first..then in the media..I don’t respect it. And since we are on the topic of respect..I guarantee a lot of the players don’t respect Tua. Tua points the finger and literally has four pointing back at him..If you want to win..put Ewers in,” Bryant posted.
“Being a pro means you have a standard that you hold yourself accountable to… to blame [someone else] for your lack of professionalism is a cop-out,” Warner said.
Not accountable for his own actions….well that’s a recurring theme throughout the organization…..
….which starts at the top.
All 3 units contributed to yesterday’s loss…another recurring theme…lol
Go on X it’s the same shit regurgitated over and over again with this team. Tua fans seem to confuse issues. Tua didn’t lose the game this week, but it doesn’t matter. Tua lovers can defend him forever but that doesn’t make him a winning QB. Grier built a shitty team, I said this ad nauseam. The O-line sucks, our defense is one of the worst in the NFL. We had the ball for 3:06 in the 3rd quarter when we had a halftime lead of 13-9. We know the defense sucks, where’s the offense? This is the unit that needs to carry this team, disappeared entirely in the 3rd Quarter, -11 yards on offense. -11???? Yeah, Tua and this offense are great!
All the Tua lovers care about is whether or not it was Tua’s fault. I’ve identified the problem, they care so much more about Tua then the team, and the results of the team. They’d rather carry the Tua flag proudly than realize the team is toast and a big part of why the team is toast is because the QB is one dimensional and isn’t good enough at that one dimension to carry this team because it sucks!
Anyway, I’m just tired of seeing it. I just hope we make the necessary moves.
FIRE GRIER!!! FIRE McDANIEL!!! PLEASE!!!
ESPN’s QB rating is a much more in depth metric on all the things a QB does, not just passing alone. This is for the season, not just yesterday’s game.
Tua Tagovailoa – 50.1
Justin Herbert – 81.6
Key metrics within Total QBR
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Tua is #21.
He’s an average QB who needs everything in place in order to be a very good QB. We’ve seen it, he can be a very good QB under the right circumstances. But he doesn’t have that stake in your heart, killer personality needed for the position.
He’s average at best, because his physical limitations don’t allow him to do things even some less than average QB’s can do to win games.
I don’t really care when we fire McDaniel, as long as it gets done. What I don’t want to happen is this team completely lose respect for one another if this continues. I don’t want the younger players to lose hope and it infect the locker room with a losing attitude that carries over to next year.
What about Grier?
end of the season is fine. It’s not too Fire a GM in season. Realistically, there’s no way we could get a GM in midseason after doing a search, vetting them, etc. Hopefully Grier can make some trades in the coming weeks and build some future Capital for the new GM.
*too common
it’s time to clean house
I think we should give MM & Grier another year to get settled….
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MM had appeared to have lost the locker room already and after that presser yesterday no way Tua will have it either .. ya thought yer OL was not protecting ya before ?? Watch out !!
Get loose Zach!
once again, the Dolphins are an embarrassment. What will it take for Ross to pull the plug on everything and start over? I realize he wants to see the Dolphins win a championship before he dies, but so do I, and I’m a lot younger.
Bri – I’m not sure I trust Grier to make any trades for this team, actually I’m sure I don’t want Grier to make those trades.
I don’t trust Ross to find the right coach and GM tbh.
I don’t either, but we can’t change that, can we?
I like the way we were running without hill. Our offense is not bad. The defense is atrocious. I thought our d-line would be better.
Did we have a second players only meeting that I missed? Is Tua referring to the meeting a month ago?
The way I understand it is they have been having regular players only meetings.
I don’t remember who it was that mentioned it yesterday, but does it seem like Tua’s arm has gotten even weaker than it was? There were several throws yesterday that it seemed like he struggled off his back foot to even get it out of bounds on a throwaway.
Concussions or not, Tua is limited as a QB. He was never going to win in the playoffs and take this team to the promise land. Time to move on after next year…
I’m actually tired of constantly talking about Tua, Grier, and MM. I’m focusing on the future and watching college football for the draft. The only part of the season I like anymore. At least there is hope in the draft, come August it’s the same old shit with this team every year. …Thanks to a clueless owner!!!
Kong,
Thanks. That’s weird. Does he mean the leadership meetings with 5-6 guys or everybody? Leadership meetings weekly is understandable. Now he’s saying some of the leaders on the team are skipping those leadership meetings? WTF?
As for Tua’s comments after the game; the guy has no idea how to lead and he’s just kind of an idiot in these pressers. He’s always known just the slightly wrong thing to say to the press. He should watch Bull Durham.
He’s kind of an idiot period. I don’t think he’s very smart. Of course smart enough to get the contract he got, but that’s what the agent does.
Yeah, I think he’s a bit of a dimwit too. Early on I figured it was just naivety and he would grow into the QB position, but he’s still saying the same dumbass stuff, and worse even.
Is it so hard to just throw a couple of sports cliches out there instead of putting your foot in it every effing week?
A few of us talked about how Tua’s arm looked weaker this year. Whether it’s actually weaker for some reason or just something else, is hard to say.
Randy,
Good questions. Who the heck knows? MM said yesterday that the team is meeting his expectations (in what he’s asking them to do in practice, etc) and he he also says it’s a player led team, so wtf? maybe the team doesn’t even really know what this shyte means, lol.
I’m rooting for the Lions to win it all this year, but I hope the league suspends Branch for at least a couple of games for his BS after the game yesterday.
I don’t care what happened during the game, you DO NOT attack a guy during the handshaking part of the aftergame.
If you’re pissed at the guy and feel the need, then don’t shake his hand and address it next time you see him, if necessary. That shit is taught from the first time you play any sport.
My HS football team, we used to have regular brawls with Jesuit HS right after we played them. We’d all agree to meet up in the park down the street from both schools, lol.
But we never did anything on the field right after the game.
Kong,
Yeah, the handshake line was always respected….but sportsmanship is a thing of the past. They leaped past that line years ago.
Ok, so this week we face 1-5 competition for our draft spot in the Browns. MM needs to try his hardest to WIN this game…(so that we know what the outcome will be)
so who should be the next GM and head coach. Any suggestions
Can’t think of his name at the moment, but he worked for the Ravens when they were an excellent team
Eric DeCosta
Sorry – I think he’s the current GM. There was someone else
Callahan fired.
Statement mentioned insufficient growth…..hmmm. Here we sit regressing for 2 years and nothing. Ross was the founder of the PB.
@Marcel_LJ
There won’t be any Dolphins players returning from injured reserve this week, per Mike McDaniel That means no: James Daniels, Liam Eichenberg, Jason Sanders, Austin Jackson
Our (lack of) O-Line seems to be our Achilles heel for over a decade and still counting… SMH
I just hope Ross doesn’t do something stupid like hiring a TV commentator to be the next GM like Mike Mayock for the Raiders
Mike E.
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October 13, 2025 at 2:10 pm
Sorry – I think he’s the current GM. There was someone else
Ozzy Newsome?
if so, he is still with the Ravens. He got “promoted” out of the GM position, like people are saying Ross will have to do with Grier. He is Vice President of Player Personnel or some such title.
Nolan Teasley – Assistant GM Seahawks
Andy Weidl – Assistant GM Steelers
Mike Bradway – Assistant GM Chiefs
The Chiefs, Patriots, Seahawks, Packers and Steelers have had the most consistent winning seasons in the last decade. (in that order)
I think it makes sense to raid winning teams for GM candidates rather than someone like Tannenbaum who the Dolphins hired when he was a perennial failure
Or Parcells you was a good coach ONCE and was never a good personnel guy.
Can’t find the quote or remember which former Dolphins said it. He was calling out MM but also kind of called out Tyreek. He basically said he is not surprised Miami has accountability problems. Said it all started with Tyreek being late to meetings and nothing done about it by the HC. It then spiraled out of control. Players knew they couldn’t be punished when Tyreek wasn’t ever punished.
Rock, add in Alec Halaby, Eagles Assistant GM. They at least seem to know how to build the trenches.
He is young and been with the Eagles his whole career. He became their Vice President of Football Operations and Strategy in 2016 and then Assistant GM in 2022 to present. He interviewed with the Panthers and Commanders in 2024 for their GM positions then interviewed with the Jets this year.
Another contender in need of an edge rusher:
Eagles pass rusher Za’Darius Smith announces retirement midway through 11th NFL season
we’ve got 4 take your pick
“There won’t be any Dolphins players returning from injured reserve this week”
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WTF? Not even the 21 day practice window???
QB Anthony Richardson will definitely miss some time due to the orbital fracture he suffered during pregame on Sunday
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How the Fuk does this happen during “pregame”?
How sad is that I am bummed Eichenberg still isn’t coming back? They need to sit our “had to have him trade up” #72. Tells you how bad he is when you were wishing for Eichenberg to make it back
I have said the same before. Sucks!
While the Dolphins offensive line struggled most of this season, mainly because of the issues Savaiinaea and the right side of the line have been having from a protection standpoint, good quarterbacks find a way to make whatever they are given work.
Does Omar not even realize that Savaiinaea plays LEFT guard?
sounds like he’s saying 3/5s of the line hasn’t been playing well
Randy
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October 13, 2025 at 12:57 pm
A few of us talked about how Tua’s arm looked weaker this year. Whether it’s actually weaker for some reason or just something else, is hard to say.
I’d say definitely weaker, can’t seem to get it 50 yards downfield, and every pass seems a little late
Stephen A says MM is the problem, not Tua
Have to disagree, while MM is a fuckup, Tua is the guy limiting the O
he’s not threat to run, they know his scrambles are just to make room to throw, so the DBs can sit back and no spy is needed
we can’t run the zone read effectively, because Tua is no threat running
his weak arm is causing a loaded box
DBs know that he’s going to unload it quickly75%+ of the time, so they can cheat the quick passes
he’s afraid to stand in the pocket and take a hit, so passes must be thrown early to a spot, which causes ints at times, when the timing is off
I could go on, but I’m sure everyone here knows he isn’t the answer, what most can’t come to grips with is he is the problem
Mike E is right, it was DeCosta that Everyone wanted when Ozzie Newsome was the GM. The ravens repeatedly denied requests because they wanted him to take over when Newsome retired.
Mike E,
I get not trusting Grier, but I’m talking about Guys, we need to trade now. Chubb is going to be a post June 1 release and Phillips won’t make it with another contract with us. I don’t think. Also I would strongly, consider dangling Fitzpatrick out there because as we learned last time, he is not going to want to be a part of a rebuild
I get it, we definitely have to shed these guys and get value for them, although leaving that to Grier is a scary proposition, is it not? We’ll get pennies on the dollar with him at the reins
ER, what I can’t figure out is you have a rookie starting at LG who is really struggling in pass pro. You have a vet RG who struggles also in pass pro also. Probably 90% of the time though, they slide Brewer to help the RG and leave the rookie on an island.
I don’t get that and Ryder has mentioned it in every post game video breaking down the offense. Six games in and they are still hanging a severely struggling rookie out to dry.
Really shitty season 😔
@JosinaAnderson
Spoke to a league source who tells me they’re currently* expecting 5 NFL head coaching changes, that includes the Titans. One of said teams has a star player expressing frustration to ownership. Another team, no one is really talking about now. Could be looking for new scenery next year. Will keep you posted. Some top personnel changes already simmering as well on a couple teams minimum. One in each conference.
BBMike
Look at what the Chargers did yesterday coming out after halftime. They identified the biggest problem on the line and adjusted help to it over there at tackle. Boom, they go up 2 scores…
What do we do? Absolutely nothing. I get it, pick your poison, but I’d be helping the rookie out first. Then to watch week after week him getting wrecked and not do anything? Leaves me scratching my head.
100%, they were without their starting LT and starting RT. They figured it out and fixed it.
Brian, Chubb doesn’t have to be a post 6/1 release. If we release him pre 6/1, we just clear less cap at 7.3m vs clearing 20.2m post 6/1. Numbers would be the same with a pre 6/1 trade.
I am good if they move him earlier, like this year. It would help rebuild this team faster in the fashion the Pats have done it.
Pats drafted Drake Maye in 2024 and unloaded some high contracts that hampered them in 2024 but enabled them to have well over 100m in cap to spend for their new HC in 2025.
Dolphins should almost do the same. Almost, because Pats got their QB then went and got their HC the next.
Dolphins should unload (trade) players like Chubb now so we recoup all his cap hit in 2027 at 31m.
Hire a new HC and draft a QB in 2026. Get their system in place. Then in 2027, you have probably over 120m in cap space. Hell, if Tua is still around, they could pre 6/1 release Tua and clear a bunch more cap. That would leave us around 140m in available cap to spend in 2027 (minus resigning Achane).
This would help make the Dolphins competitive much sooner in year 2 of the new HC. Just as the Pats are in year 2 for Drake Maye though year 1 for Vrabel.
It just needs to be done right and we know Grier isn’t that guy to do it.
I feel obligated to say it a third time… the Chargers were down to their 3rd-string LT, 3rd-string RT, and 3rd and 4th-string RBs yesterday… and our Defense managed 1 sack (Grant)… and gave up 124 rushing yards (6.9 YPC) to Kamani Vidal on 18 carries.
Even if we had won the game, that is absolutely embarrassing for our Defense, especially our D-Line. Jordyn Brooks (as usual) and KJ Britt played their asses off for us yesterday, but our D-Line couldn’t stop a nose bleed once again.
I can’t believe this, but it’s true: our late-coming signees in the Secondary are WAY outperforming what we all thought was the strength of our Defense… the D-Line.
Here’s what I honestly see going forward…
Our Defense is going to tighten up (barring major injuries) as they continue to gel together under DC Anthony Weaver. Remember, 7 or 8 of our 11 starters are brand new to the Weaver Defense (I count Chubb as 1, being he didn’t play last season).
That’s going to put the onus on our Offense to make something happen. Once James Daniels and Austin Jackson get back, that’s going to breakup some of the gelling (or lack thereof) our O-Line has accumulated.
Big Jonah has no choice but to take his lumps, so he’s going to continue to be the weakest link.
Tua’s going to get injured again at some point (probably sooner than later), and our already pathetic Offense is going to die with a whimper.
‘Capri McD’ is going to get fired before the season ends, and soon after Grief will be either ‘promoted’ out of his position or fired as well.
Capri McD! 🤣🤣🤣
LOL, thanks! 😆
There was one particularly big hit Tua took on Sunday, I was surprised he got up without issue afterward.
I went to the grocery store today to buy a carton of milk: Chop Robinson was featured on the carton (kidding, of course)…
LOL
I think chop is doing about what he can do. I was never too high on him as a pic in the first round
lol
I give Chop a lot of credit due to the fact that he didn’t require multiple picks in a trade up
I’m in Miami now, airport pickup, almost feel embarrassed 😳 to be here
this team is so bad my gut hurts
listening to some of the pros, and its hard not to agree with them on Tua stench, but I believe McD could actually be a decent HC (never great with his soft approach) with a real QB, he’d of course have to change his system one that fits a real QB
McD just isn’t the right coach for us
before February McD and Grier need to be gone, then once Tua’s cap allows him to be cut after 2026 he needs to be gone also
there’s no way to mend the fences with these 3
Tua needs to shut his pie hole, unless he’s telling the media he needs to be better
you don’t throw teammates under the bus, whether they’ve fucked up or not, you keep it behind closed doors
wonder, if his teammates feel as I do and many in the media, and is responding to something teammates are saying
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tua-tagovailoa-calls-out-dolphins-teammates-after-tough-loss-chargers
I’m actually all for Tua speaking out. Hopefully, this is the start of an even bigger “shit show” and Ross is forced to make changes sooner rather than later.
I agree with ya, Rich… and on all accounts.
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mf13ss says:October 13, 2025 at 5:12 pm
I feel obligated to say it a third time…
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lol…ok. I think we all know the D sucks, especially DL. The line has been gashed every week.
BOTH the O-Line and D-Line have been gashed every week.
Yessir
I want Grier and MM gone ASAP, because once that happens we’ll have something to look forward to
the longer we go without making the move the greater the chance one or both stay in 2026
wouldn’t put it past Ross either to keep at least one
mf13ss
says:
October 12, 2025 at 10:19 pm
Seriously think about it… would Grief and McD have ruined the careers of both Justin Herbert and Jalen Hurts?
I don’t even need to blink when I say HELL YEAH.
Im not so sure, what I do know is Hurts wouldn’t be the QB we see today, but he’d surely be better than Tua
many teams, that had historically bad records, found a way to lose week after week, but played well enough to win
you couldn’t say that about our 2019 team, first half
other than week 1, we could’ve beaten a what looks like good NE team, a very good Buffalo team, a bad Carolina team and a good LAC team
we’re close, but yet so far away
Mike E.
says:
October 13, 2025 at 12:04 pm
Bri – I’m not sure I trust Grier to make any trades for this team, actually I’m sure I don’t want Grier to make those trades.
Grier is fine making trades, his issue is he doesn’t know how to build a team
the traditionally great teams have a system or something whoever coaches them need to follow, our team doesn’t have tgat
What happened to the Bills? Falcons aren’t going to get that TD at the end of the half, but still up 21-7.
They have a ton of injuries on Defense.
Mike E,
I’d rather Grier make trades now than get nothing for guys that will likely be gone after this season
That I completely agree with. The other option would be that Ross had his guys researching since last year and found a legit GM to replace Grier now. Since we both know that’s not the case we’ll have to settle for whatever Grier can manage to get for our suckass players
This is like a long time relationship that starts turning bad. You can see it…you can feel it. You know it’s coming, but you don’t want to admit it and move forward. The next thing you know you’re broke and living in a van down by the river with some guy named Daryl and his pet raccoons.
I’m already preparing myself for the possibility Ross doesn’t fire Grier. I hope I’m wrong, but I just have this feeling he fires MM sometime within the next few weeks but Grier survives into next season.
I shit you not that if either one of the 2 clowns we have running this team, Grier or McDaniel are back next season I’m done. I will not continue to waste my time on this garbage
Some of us thought they would be crazy to run it back with Grier and McDaniel at the end of last season. All they’ve done since then is have a shitty draft, trade away our best offensive player last season, and lose 5 of 6. I mean, if things don’t improve significantly, all heads must roll!
Wow, Patriots take over 1st place in the AFCE
Bills D even had Ed Oliver back
Lol @ Randy. We’ve all.been there!
Clarification from Tua, on the players’ only (good) meetings….lol.
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Tua[‘s]………response to a question during his postgame press conference about how the Dolphins can avoid falling into a woe-is-me state of mind: “Yeah, well, I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate that for the guys, and then what we’re expecting out of the guys. We’re expecting this. Are we getting that? Are we not getting that? We have guys showing up to player-only meetings late. Guys not showing up to player-only meetings. There is a lot that goes into that. Do we have to make that mandatory? Do we not have to make that mandatory? So it’s a lot of things of that nature that we got to get cleaned up. It starts with the little things like that.”
When asked to clarify if he was saying players were being late to or missing players-only meetings, he said, “Late. Yeah.
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His leadership skills are off the charts as our franchise quarterback….but his stats lead the league in passing metrics….that’s great….lol.
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Former Kansas City Chiefs tackle Mitchell Schwartz made the point that it was odd to criticize leadership considering Tua is one of the team captains.
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Former Dolphins guard Jermon Bushrod, part of the team’s really good 2016 offensive line, emphasized the keeping things in house angle.
“This dolphins team is frustrating on and off the field,” Bushrod posted on X. “Not only is the product on the field a disappointment, but the leakage of ‘locker room/team’ information is flagrant and UNNECESSARY.”
“I hated every bit of that,” McCourty said. “I played in New England with Bill Belichick and Tom Brady and Coach Belichick used to talk about, when you have true leadership, it doesn’t need to be talked about. So, if there’s a problem, Tua, you’re a captain of this team, you’re a quarterback. Go handle it. Don’t sit there in front of a camera and talk to media members about guys messing up. Get in the locker room, call those guys out by name. If confrontation happens, that happens sometimes, but I think to come and air out your dirty laundry and let everybody know that there’s a problem – we know there’s a problem, you’re not winning football games. Go fix it in-house. Handle it that way. I think that’s true leadership.”
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Exactly!!!
Mike E
Suppose we get our wish. Grief and Capri McD(I’m using that forever M) get canned. Will you still abandon this team if Ross goes and gets Belicheat?
Thats my fear. I thought about it going to bed last night and I don’t know how I will react to that.
The thought of that makes my stomach queasy 😂 No sir, I don’t like it
I hope I don’t have to deal with that situation. I don’t think I will
Even though I have come to the conclusion, they change from the top down need to be made. I do not feel GM Chris Grier has done a bad job. With that being said, I do agree as time to change from the top down.
I may not know a lot, but for as long as he’s been in this organization, you should be saying he’s great at his job. He’s not. More failures than wins as far as I’m concerned. He can’t manage a draft. He has a lot of picks? They burn a hole in his pocket like he’s the latest lottery millionaire and before you know it, he’s broke. Much like we are now. Might be different if the players he spent the picks on were great, but thats not the case either.
I had more to say but wordpress decided I was finished apparently. I’ll leave it at that for now. 😂
More Failures and wins I’m not sure how you can put that on the GM but at this point it’s no longer that important in my opinion
It’s time to clean house and find somebody else to blame
that should’ve said more failures than wins
When the majority of people say there’s more talent than what their record shows. It’s obvious who’s at fault.
this team has more than an talent. They’re just not being coach properly
Mike McDaniel has been a failure ever since he’s been the head coach even when they look good they were only beating bad teams. His overall record against good teams is an indictment on him more than anybody else
Mike McDaniel’s record against teams with a winning record is 3-15, meaning he has won 3 games and lost 15 games against opponents with a pre-game record above .500. This includes a 0-5 record against such teams at the end of the 2024 season.
It was just a few years ago we had 3 1st round and 2 2nd round picks. That should have been a serious turning point for any franchise. Grier turned those 5 pick. Jackson (a very mediocre lineman) and Tua (a very mediocre QB) are all that’s left. He’s a horrible scout, and put our team in cap hell. Grier needs to go brother.
Tua is not a media quarterback neither is Jackson a mediocre player
When he’s playing at his best to us numbers in 2023 or some of the best numbers that year amongst quarterbacks so mediocre is an understatement
With that being said, he does have limitations ever since he’s had injuries in the NFL same for Jackson injuries has derailed his career
Markey, your last line is correct.
Regarding talent, as O pointed out today, we don’t have a single unit in top 10. In fact we have glaring weaknesses in each unit coupled with subpar performances either because of those weaknesses or in addition to them. As anyone who has pulled on a chain knows, it’s only as strong as it’s weakest link. We have some talent scattered around (not enough imho) and an abundance of weakest links which will be exploited week after week. Pair that with crippling debt and it’s a hole we are never climbing out of.
We need the heavy earth removers in and level the ground before we start building something new. By then, any talent we have will be too old, maybe with the exception of Big Pat Paul and Devon. Chop might have a future but he’s not exactly ripping up trees is he. He can’t make the field consistently.
Start the fire sale
Markey – We could talk in circles about this all day. Mike McDaniel is protecting his QB. he designed this offense to keep him healthy. Quick shots, timing patterns, tons of screens and 10 yard throws so Tua gets the ball out quick and doesn’t get hit. Tell me I’m wrong, and then that will be the end of the convo. To add, we don’t have that much talent on the team right now. Waddle, Achane, is there anyone else on this roster that could potentially fetch a 1st RD pick from another team?
That argument can be made with any team in the NFL only a few players on every team I probably work at the first round pick
With that being said, we have more than enough talent to be better than one and five and that is on the coach
I’ll respond to this later tonight when I’m home. That’s not true, there are teams in our division that have players that could not only fetch 1st RD picks but multiple 1st RD picks
Trade deadline is 3 weeks away. The teams who need pass rush help the most are the Eagles and 49er’s.
Here’s what funny – not funny…
Jaelan Phillips and Chop Robinson have exactly 1 more sack (each) than anybody on our team who has been on season-ending IR before the season even began.
Jaelan and Chop have exactly 1 more sack (each) than Tua would have if Tua played on our Defense.
I don’t say that gleefully, either. *sigh*
I’m thinking a 3rd rounder for Chubb and maybe a 5th or 6th rounder for Jaelan.
Possible, especially since Chubb will be real cheap this year for a team trading for him. He will cost that team 20m in 2026 though.
6 games played thus far this season, and between Chop, Jaelan, Chubb, and Judon combined? 6 sacks… Chubb with 4 of those 6 sacks. SMMFH
It’s sad that Charlie Kirk had to get the Presidential Medal of Freedom posthumously.
Indeed, and on what would have been his 32nd B-day today. Prayers to his wife Erika and their two little kids. For whatever HIS reason, HE called Charlie home… and we must never forget what Charlie did while he was here in his short 31 years on Earth.
Yes, Bookman, very sad!
He was a really good guy and those are rare especially in the media/podcast arena. It’s shameful that people hated him without even knowing his stances. A world full of information and people too lazy to read said information.
QB can sure mitigate alot of this lack of talent debate. We do not have that QB.
Grief is horrible. Been a loser for over 20 yrs with this organization and has blown every chance to build a team that has consistency year over year.
I think too many fans are overestimating the overall talent on Miami. With all the early picks in the last 6+ years, Grier has definitely done a really crappy job!!!
The most important thing a player can bring to a team is availability. I don’t care how good you can play, if you’re not on the field….
Yep, and that’s with any job. The more the NFL catered to players, the less they have played. No way to change that now but it’s a lesson to be learned in all fields. If I was a NFL GM, I’d never offer more than a 2 year contract and eventually, other teams would follow that superior standard. Players NEVER live up to their bigger contracts.
41 carries, 330 yards. Those are the combined numbers of 2 backup RBs the last two weeks vs Miami’s defense.
At this point, I would listen to offers for any player on this team. With all these bad teams in the league, we need as much ammo as possible in case we need to move up for a QB.