ABSOLUTE PERFECTION: THE 1972 MIAMI DOLPHINS – GAME 17

By: Randy Campbell (OLD DOLFAN)

 

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The city of Boston, Massachusetts, was awarded an NFL franchise on July 9, 1932.  George Preston Marshall and three other investors owned the franchise.  The new team took the name “Boston Braves,” the same name as their baseball landlords at Braves Field.  This new franchise amassed over $46,000 in financial losses during their inaugural season.  The three investors divested themselves, leaving Marshall as the sole owner of the Braves.  Marshall moved the team to Fenway Park for the 1933 33_Program-211x300season.  He hired “Lone Star” Dietz, a self-professed part Sioux Indian, as his head coach.  In honor of Dietz, Marshall changed the team’s nickname to the “Redskins.”  After three mediocre campaigns (1933-1935) Marshall hired Ray Flaherty to be the next head coach for the 1936 season.  The Redskins won the Eastern Division crown with a 7-5 record.  Unfortunately, only 4,813 fans showed-up for Boston’s final home game so an angry Marshall voluntarily gave up the home field advantage for the NFL Championship Game.  The game was moved to New York’s Polo Grounds where the Green Bay Packers defeated the Boston Redskins 21-6.  In 1937 Marshall moved the team to Griffith Stadium in Washington, the home of the Washington Senators baseball team.  It was in the course of moving to Washington that the Redskins drafted, then signed, strong-armed TCU quarterback “Slingin’ Sammy” Baugh, perhaps the greatest all-around player in NFL history.  At one point in his Hall of Fame career, Baugh was the best quarterback, the best cornerback and the best punter in the game.  As a quarterback he led the league in passing yards per game 6 times; 9 times he led the NFL in completion percentage. As a defensive back, Baugh is the only player in NFL history to throw four touchdowns in a game and INTERCEPT FOUR PASSES IN THE SAME GAME while playing defense!!  As a punter, Baugh led the league in punting average four straight yearsbaugh-sammy-225x300 (1940-1943).  In 1940, Baugh averaged 51.4 yards per punt, an all-time NFL record!  In 1941, he averaged 48.73 yards, the third best in NFL history!  When Baugh retired he owned 13 NFL records.  He is an original charter member of the NFL Hall of Fame!!  Under Baugh’s guidance, the Redskins advanced to the 1937 NFL Championship Game IN HIS ROOKIE SEASON!!  The Redskins defeated the Chicago Bears 28-21 in Wrigley Field to claim their first NFL title.  In 1940 the Bears got revenge, annihilating Washington 73-0 (even though the Redskins had defeated the Bears a few weeks earlier in the regular season)!  The 1942 title game saw Washington edge Chicago 14-6.  The following year, Chicago defeated the ‘Skins 41-21.  In 1943, Baugh led the NFL in passing, punting and interceptions.  In 1945, Washington met the Cleveland Rams (soon to be the L.A. Rams) in the NFL title game.  The Rams won a 15-14 squeaker.  From his rookie year in 1937 through 1945, Baugh led the Redskins to 5 NFL Championship Games, winning 2 and losing 3.  Beginning in 1946 the Redskins organization fell into disarray.  In 1961, Washington moved into the new D. C. Stadium (renamed RFK Stadium in 1969).  But the mediocrity continued.  Many blamed George Preston Marshall’s racist views for the ‘Skins inability to field another championship team.  Marshall steadfastly refused to integrate his football team.  Finally, under immense pressure from the Kennedy administration, and from the D.C. government (which OWNED D. C. Stadium), Marshall relented and acquired African-American future Hall of Fame back Bobby Mitchell from the Cleveland Browns.  Mitchell, who had a frosty relationship with Marshall, amassed 14,078 combined yards and 91 touchdowns in his brilliant career as a rusher, pass receiver and kick returner.  Marshall died Aug. 9, 1969.  Within a few months, famous attorney Edward Bennett Williams gained control of the franchise.  He hired legendary coach Vince Lombardi, who directed Washington to a 7-5-2 record in 1970.  Shortly after the season, Lombardi died of colon cancer.  In imagesCAAA8UN51971 Williams hired ex-Rams coach George Allen as head coach.  Allen, who was partial to seasoned veterans, developed a team known as the “Over the Hill Gang.”  Allen’s Redskins lost to the ’49ers in the NFC semi-finals that season.   Hopes were very high for the Redskins’ faithful as the 1972 season began.  Allen’s team included quarterbacks Sonny Jurgensen and Bill Kilmer; star running back Larry Brown; center Len Hauss; receiver Charley Taylor; linebacker Chris Hanburger and safety Pat Fischer.  Washington won their first two games of the season before suffering an agonizing 24-23 loss to New England (a team Miami defeated by scores of 52-0 and 37-21).  After the loss Allen replaced Kilmer with Jurgensen.  Jurgensen’s season ended three weeks later he tore an achilles tendon.  Bill Kilmer was reinstated as the starting quarterback and led the Redskins to a 6-2 mark over the final eight weeks.  Their overall season record was 11-3.  Washington hosted its first post-season game IN 30 YEARS when they played Green Bay in the NFC semi-finals.  The Redskins strong defense paced them to a 16-3 victory.  Then, in the NFC Championship Game, Washington crushed the Dallas Cowboys 26-3.  Soon after this game the gambling parlors in Las Vegas established the 13-3 Redskins as 3-point favorites over the undefeated Miami Dolphins (a fact Don Shula brought to his players’ attention during the two weeks of preparation).   And what to make of Don Shula?  Four years earlier, his Baltimore Colts were three-touchdown favorites over Joe Namath’s Jets.  Shula referred to his loss in Super Bowl III as his “darkest moment.”  Then, just one year ago, Shula’s young Dolphins were blown-out by the Cowboys in Super Bowl VI.  Many believed Shula simply could NOT win a Super Bowl.  That belief helped make Washington the favorite in Super Bowl VII.  Former Colts’ owner Carroll Rosenbloom repeated his famous comment that “Shula always freezes-up in the big game.  Washington will win easily.”  Rosenbloom made these comments despite the fact that Shula’s Colts had gone 11-1-2 in 1967 and 15-1-0 in ’68 before losing Super Bowl III to New York.  Shula’s two-year record of 26-3-2 was, and still IS, the best two-year run in Colts’ franchise history.  Shula’s decision to start Bob Griese drew fire from some observers.  Griese had not played a full game in over 3 months.  And, in Super Bowl VI, Griese completed only 12 of 25 passes for 105 net yards passing. And his Dolphins’ offense produced an all-time record low 3 points in a Super Bowl.  Add to that was the fact that Miami struggled to win two very close playoff games.  Washington, on the other hand, dominated their two playoff foes.  It seemed like the Redskins were peaking at just the right time.  Then, just to throw a little more fire onto the Super Bowl flame, President Richard Nixon came out publicly in favor of the Washington Redskins.  He said, “I always root for the home team and, right now, the Redskins are my home team.”

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While many skeptics doubted Shula and his Dolphins, I did NOT.  This was NOT Super Bowl III nor Super Bowl VI.  This was the ’72 Dolphins vs, the ’72 Redskins.  The ’72 Dolphins crushed New England twice during the season while the ’72 Redskins LOST to New England.  The ’72 Dolphins beat Buffalo TWICE while the ’72 Redskins lost to Buffalo.  The ’72 Dolphins, statistically, had the best rushing team in NFL history; the ’72 Redskins did not.  And the ’72 Dolphins had the league’s #1 ranked offense and #1 ranked defense; the ’72 Redskins did NOT.  The ’72 Redskins were playing for a championship.  The ’72 Dolphins were playing for FOOTBALL IMMORTALITY!  I was convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt the Misuper_bowl_07_history-300x207ami Dolphins would win this game!  According to Nick Buoniconti, Miami’s top priority was to stop Larry Brown and force Kilmer to pass.  Miami shifted their defense so it was strongest where they felt Brown would run.  It worked!  Washington’s center Len Hauss simply could not handle defensive tackle Manny Fernandez.  “Fernandez beat their center like a drum,” said Buoniconti.  And the Redskins’ running game suffered.  Shula and his coaches devised a way to control Kilmer’s passing game.  They set-up a defense that took away Kilmer’s favorite play, the slant-in pass.  Arnsparger wanted to force Kilmer to beat them with sideline out-passes.  In truth, the 33-year old Kilmer lacked the arm strength required to throw those sideline bullets.  These defensive strategies were effective.  Washington would fail to score a single point on offense THE ENTIRE GAME!!  Miami won the toss and decided to receive.  But the drive stalled.  Each team punted on their first two possessions.  The Dolphins got the ball on their own 37 with 2:55 left in the first quarter.  Two Jim Kiick running plays garnered 11 yards and a howard_twilley_1973_01_14-207x300first down.  Bob Griese then stepped back and tossed a perfect 18-yard pass to Paul Warfield, who beat double coverage and got the ball to Washington’s 34!  On 3rd down and 4 from the 28, Griese looked down field for reliable Howard Twilley.  Twilley faked an inside route then scampered to the outside and caught Griese’s long pass at the five yard line.  He dragged Pat Fischer into the end zone giving Miami a 7-0 lead with one second left in the opening stanza.  “Griese read us real good all day” Fischer would say in the post game locker room.  The Redskins tried to rally.  But on the third play of their ensuing drive, safety Jake Scott intercepted Kilmer’s long pass intended for Charley Taylor and returned the ball to Washington’s 47.  On the very next play, Griese hit tight end Marv Fleming with a 20-yard pass to the ‘Skins 27.  But a questionable illegal man downfield penalty against Bob Kuechenberg nullified the play.  Again, Washington’s offense was stopped cold by the “No Name Defense.” After a Redskins punt Griese and his offense went to work.  Larry Csonka roared for 13 yards and a first down.  Jim Kiick scampered for 8 yards.  On the next play, Griese threw a deep, gorgeous, 47-yard bomb that PAUL WARFIELD PULLED IN FOR A TOUCHDOWN!!  But, there was yet another flag!!  An illegal procedure penalty on Marlin Briscoe NULLIFIED THE TOUCHDOWN!! That would be Briscoe’s one, and ONLY, play of the game.  Eventually Miami was forced to punt.  Washington moved the ball from their own 17 to Miami’s 48 (their first time in Dolphin territory) with under two minutes to play in the half.  On third and 3 from Miami’s 41, Kilmer’s pass was picked-off by Nick Buonicont8a39151528a2adbf7a2622100a00e9c1-300x196 (2)i!  He returned the interception 32 yards to Washington’s 27 yard line!  Kiick and Csonka each had 3 yard runs.  Then, from the 21, Griese completed a 19 yard pass (his sixth completion in six attempts) to tight end Jim Mandich who made a fingertip catch AT THE TWO YARD LINE!!  Two plays later Larry Little and Larry Csonka led Kiick through a hole for a 1 yard touchdown run with just 18 seconds left in the half.  The Dolphins had a 14-0 halftime lead that, but for a Briscoe penalty, would have been 21-0!  Meanwhile, the “No Name Defense” held Washington’s offense to just 49 yards rushing and 23 yards passing in the first half.  It was a dominant first half performance by the underdog Dolphins!!  Washington’s offense would have more success in the second half.  Starting from their own 30, the ‘Skins offense drove to Miami’s 17, mostly on the passing arm of Bill Kilmer.  On the next play, Kilmer’s top receiver, future Hall of Famer Charley Taylor, was open near the goal line.  Kilmer threw him a pass.  Taylor stumbled on the turf and the ball deflected off his hands.  On third down, Manny Fernandez SACKED Kilmer for an 8 yard loss!  Place kicker Curt Knight’s 32-yard field goal attempt was WIDE RIGHT!!! “That was the obvious turning point,” said a dejected George Allen.  Late in the third period Miami drove 78 yards to the Redskins’ 5 yard line.  The key play was a 49 yard run by Larry Csonka.  With the ball at Washington’s 5, Miami was set to take an insurmountable 21-0 lead.  But Griese’s pass into the end zone jake-scott-300x208to Marv Fleming was intercepted by Brig Owens.  AGAIN, Miami had been turned away when a score seemed likely.  It was now the fourth quarter.  Washington mounted their best drive of the day, going 79 yards in 12 plays down to the Dolphins’ 10-yard line.  Kilmer saw a wide-open tight end Jerry Smith in the end zone!  But his pass hit the crossbar and fell harmlessly to the ground!  On third down Kilmer threw to Charley Taylor.  But Jake Scott intercepted it in the end zone and ran it back to the Washington 48 yard line!  The Dolphins advanced the ball to the 34 with just under 2 and 1/2 minutes to go.  It was fourth down and fogaroyepremian_display_image-150x150ur.  Garo Yepremian lined-up a 42 yard field goal attempt.  If good, Miami would wrap-up a 17-0 season with a 17-0 victory.  But huge defensive lineman Bill Brundige BLOCKED Garo’s attempt!  Garo tried to pass the ball to Csonka, who blocked on field goals.  But the ball slipped out of Garo’s hands and went straight up in the air.  Mike Bass of the Redskins snapped the ball out of the air and ran it back ALL THE WAY FOR A REDSKINS TOUCHDOWN!! It was 14-7 with 2:07 left to play!  To nearly everyone’s surprise, Washington did NOT try an on-sides kick!  Miami’s subsequent 5-play drive after the kickoff forced the ‘Skins to use all of their remaing timeouts.  Seiple punted the ball back to Washington with 1:14 left on the clock!  Now, just one more stop by the “NoBillyKilmer_display_image-300x236 Name Defense” was all that separated Miami from football immortality!  The Dolphins’ ferocious pass rush hurried Kilmer into two incompletions.  On third down, Kilmer tried a swing pass.  The “No Names’ stuffed it FOR A FOUR YARD LOSS!!  WE WERE ALL STANDING AND SCREAMING OUR LUNGS OUT!!  THE CLOCK WAS TICKING!!  Kilmer dropped back for one final play!!  BILL STANFILL AND VERN DEN HERDER COMBINED TO SACK KILMER AND, THEN, IT WAS OVER!!! —  IT WAS OVER!!! —WE WENT CRAZY!!  —  WE WENT ABSOLUTELY NUTS!!!  Horns were blowing!!  Dolfans ran up and down the streets of South Florida screaming like crazy!!  — IT WAS PARTEEEE TIME, BIG TIME!!! — The Dolphins had completed THE PERFECT SEASON!!! —  THE PERFECT SEASON WAS NO LONGER A DREAM!!! — It was REALITY!!!  THE PERFECT SEASON WAS OURS’ TO ENJOY!!!  AND ENJOY IT WE WOULD!!
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Dolphins players hoisted Don Shula up onto their shoulders.  A photograph most of us have seen a thousand times shows Shula with his right arm raised and a smile as big as Grand Canyon as he’s carried out onto the field.  “This is the ultimate” Shula said later in the locker room.  He continued, “it was especially nice to win in Los Angeles where a certain man lives.”  He was referring to former Colts’ owner Carroll Rosenbloom who, essentially, traded the Colts franchise for the L. A. Rams and lived in L. A.  Rosenbloom’s statement that “Shula always freezes-up in the big games” now seemed like a distant memory.  The Don of Miami had been vindicated.  And he wasn’t done.  In 1973, Shula and his team would win their second consecutive Super Bowl, this time as favorites.  A few minutes later, Commissioner Pete Rozelle presented the Lombardi Trophy to Dolphins owner Joe Robbie and to head coach Don Shula.  In the franchises’ very first play of their very first regular season game, Joe Auer ran the opening kickoff back for a touchdown in the historic Orange Bowl.  Now, 13956958-11-244x300seven years later, the Dolphins had won the NFL Championship Trophy by completing a PERFECT SEASON!!  Dolphin fans world-wide were celebrating!!  Boy, were they celebrating!!  It was a day none of us will ever forget!  On the day, quarterback Bob Griese was 8 for 11 for 88 yards and a touchdown to Howard Twilley.  Paul Warfield had 3 receptions for 36 yards.  A fourth reception for 47 yards and a touchdown was nullified by Briscoe’s penalty.  As a team, Miami rushed for 184 yards on 37 carries, a 5.0 average per rush.  Larry Csonka led the way with 112 yards on 15 carries.  The Dolphins “No Name Defense” did an outstanding job controlling Washington’s offense.  Bill Kilmer was 14-28 for only 104 yards, no touchdowns and three interceptions.  Ace receiver Charley Taylor had only 26 yards on 5 receptions while top running back Larry Brown got only 72 yards on 22 carries, an average of less than 3.3 yards per carry.  Dick Schaap, editor of SPORT magazine(and future host of ESPN’s “THE SPORTS REPORTERS”) was given the task of selecting the MVP of Super Bowl VII.  Schaap selected Miami’s #13, Jake Scott, for his two game-changing interceptions.  Schaap later admitted he had been out late the previous night and that he struggled to stay awake during the game.  He was observed spending quite a bit of time in the restroom during the festivities.  He claimed he was totally unaware that the man who REALLY WAS THE MVP, Manny Fernandez, had an amazing 17 tackles (11 solo) in Super Bowl VII.  Another side note:  When Garo Yepremian made his infamous blunder late in the game he was so traumatized that he had to be helped from a post-game party complaining of pain up and down his side.  He remained in seclusion for two weeks until he was cheered-up by a letter, apparently from Shula, praising him for his contributions to the team and urging him to ignore criticism.  In the year 2000 Yepremian mentioned the letter to Shula who said he had no knowledge of it.  Shula concluded it was actually sent by his first wife, Dorothy,who died of breast cancer in 1991.  Dorothy Shula was a Garo fan.  She didn’t want to see him suffer while others were celebrating.

 

The next day, Monday, January 15, 1973, was your author’s 26th birthday.  I was STILL CELEBRATING the previous day’s historic victory.  I grabbed a copy of THE MIAMI HERALD.  Sports editor Edwin Pope, the dean of Florida sportswriters (still alive and writing part time at age 83) covered the game for his paper.  On page one of the front section the headline read “17 and 0 – – – That’s Perfectly Super!”  A very large photo of Shula being carried onto the field covered almost half of the front page, along with a story written by Pope.  Also, on page one was a story titled “4 Watergate Suspects Reportedly Urged to Enter Guilty Plea” by Bob Woodward and Carsuperbowl-rings-1972-miami-dolphins-300x200l Bernstein of THE WASHINGTON POST.  Page one of THE HERALD’s sports section carried the headline “Dolphins Rule Football World,” by Luther Evans.  It featured two large photos of Twilley’s touchdown catch.  Edwin Pope’s article at the bottom of the page was titled “A Cakewalk; Dolphins Should Have Strolled 24-0″  Pope wrote, Washington, a three-point favorite?  Ho, ho, ho, ha, ha, ha, he, he, he … a piece of cake, that’s what it was … This was a clog dancer against Nureyev, a hog-caller against Caruso”.  Indeed, despite the score, Miami was by far the better team.  Now, on January 15, 1973, there were no doubters, no detractors.  Most agreed the ’72 undefeated Miami Dolphins were the greatest team they’d ever seen.  That was true in 1973.  It is still true today!  I will leave you with the very same words I used to begin this report on ABSOLUTE PERFECTION back in game #1:  2012 marks the 40th Anniversary of the greatest achievement by any team in the storied history of the National Football League.  In 1972 the Miami Dolphins did what no other team had ever done before AND what no other team has ever done since.  They ran the table.  They were perfect.  They were 17 and 0.  It has been my supreme pleasure to write this modest overview of the one and only Perfect Season.  May we all live long enough to witness ANOTHER MIAMI DOLPHINS’ PERFECT SEASON!   I’ll see you at the stadium!  Go-o-o-o ‘Fins!!

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Author Randy Campbell was adopted out of an orphanage in Canada at age one and brought to America in 1954 at age seven.  In 1959 his adoptive parents wisely moved from Buffalo to South Florida.  Randy began attending Dolphins home games in their first year (1966).  In 1969 he graduated from Florida Atlantic University.  While attending graduate school at FAU, Randy was drafted and served two years in the U. S. Army, working as an X-Ray technologist.  In 1979 Randy became the chief CT Scan technologist at Bethesda Memorial Hospital.  In 1983 Randy changed jobs and pursued a career in his first love, coin collecting.  He’s authored over 200 articles on various coin-related topics in his “new” career.  In 2008, he was named the senior authenticator/grader at I. C. G. grading service in Tampa, Florida.  He and his wife Penny live in a Tampa suburb.  They have two children, four grandchildren and three great grandchildren.  Randy describes himself as a “Die hard Dolfan hoping to go to just one more Dolphins Super Bowl before I die!”

 

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547 Responses to ABSOLUTE PERFECTION: THE 1972 MIAMI DOLPHINS – GAME 17

  1. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    Nice work OD! I think that I mentioned this to you before, but my Dad happened to be in town on business that day, and he was able to get a ticket to the game for about $10!

  2. ukfinfan's avatar ukfinfan says:

    Thanks (from the last blog) Mike E – your champagne was better than mine, so I’m trying to up my game?
    PS FU StangerX JKBB …… I preferred the old Stanger – far more civilised lol

    http://giphy.com/gifs/sexy-hayden-panettiere-champagne-AgtvcFdyI1sm4

  3. ukfinfan's avatar ukfinfan says:

    OK – one last try – if this doesn’t encourage MF13 to post here nothing will! (I don’t think it’s Mrs D?!?)

  4. ukfinfan's avatar ukfinfan says:

    PS Great to have absolute perfection back after a season of too much imperfection. Thanks Randy and all the new admins

  5. TryPod's avatar Try Pod says:

    I’m fairly certain that contained within the above consists at least the full text from the novel, “War and Peace”.
    I’ll let you know when I have finished reading it.
    Thanks for the hard work, OD!

  6. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Weeeeeeeeeeeee
    absolute perfection is back
    Thanks OD!

  7. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    HERDFAN: THANKS for running this episode which covers the single greatest moment in the history of the Dolphin franchise: the completion of the NFL’s one and only PERFECT SEASON!–i HOPE each and every one of you enjoys it. –I’ll be on this site after dinner tonight to answer any questions you may have. –ENJOY, my friends, ENJOY!!

  8. D's avatar D says:

    Saw some late night chatter about our backup QB position. I doubt we get a cheap vet because their play would be equivalent to a cheaper rookie, likely one we wouldn’t even have to give up picks before. Locker has the better skills out if he and gabbert but depending on a guy to be there when you starter is hurt, when he himself has been hurt more than healthy is a scary proposition. I can’t the no of a cheaper alternative guy who is going to make me feel stable there do I’d either try to resign Moore for reasonable rate to give us security or roll with a rookie backup to cut costs and hope Tanny doesn’t get hurt. Isvwgat itcus we either need to pay someone well to guarantee a good job done or not care about the level of play an go cheap.

  9. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    It’s gonna be tough on Hickey if Moore doesn’t take a good size haircut & bolts elsewhere.
    Go IronMan Tanny!

  10. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Hustled to his podium through a throng of reporters, Lynch made it clear he was counting the minutes.

    “When does my time start? Oh, it’s started,” he said. “Well, let me say, I’m just here so I won’t get fined.”

    With his eyes masked by sunglasses and a relaxed smile on his face, Lynch repeated the phrase in answer to every question posed: “I’m just here so I won’t get fined.”

    Those counting tallied 29 repetitions before Lynch called out “Time!” and departed after four minutes and 51 seconds.
    ______________________________
    Jackass, at least learn some coach speak…SMH!…Oh & run over the Pats Sunday 🙂

  11. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
    “@ShooterMcGavinB: Truly no one in this draft is jumping out and yelling draft me at 14 that is impactful» I’m thinking Gurley, OG or WR.
    ___________________________
    Further proof Omar is clueless…Gurley @ 14, coming off a ligament tear, and we have a 1K yd back in Miller..I mean REALLY? Oh, and taking a G @ 14, WTF?
    Omar’s credibility is shot once again!

  12. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    I want Absolute Perfection again. Or at the very least can’t we have “absolute integrity”, please?
    In a year where the steroid kings face the (at least) three times cheaters its nice to read a story of a real team who won it the right way. Thanks OD for the reflection back to a better time for our team and the sport.

  13. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Tajh Boyd is out there for someone to develop. I think he’d be worth taking a look at.

  14. professor lou's avatar professor lou says:

    Sleeper #3 at SS, Terrell Pinson, LA Tech:

  15. professor lou's avatar professor lou says:

    Sleeper #2 at MLB, Jermaine Holmes, Marshall:

  16. professor lou's avatar professor lou says:

    Sleeper #1, at RB, Cameron Stingily, NIU:

  17. professor lou's avatar professor lou says:

    Sleeper #4 at WR, Jarrod West, Syracuse:

  18. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    GDP,
    Furthermore, an OG at 14? Let alone that taking an OG that high is almost a waste (because you can find them later in the draft) but many scouts think this is a weak draft for OG, perod.

  19. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Lou,
    Jermaine Holmes looks like an Ellerbe clone.

  20. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Regarding the cap and Matt Moore, I think his salary is irrelevant.
    Most teams consider $ per position as much as they consider individual dollars to one player.
    As long as Tannehill remains cheap (rookie contract), the Fins will have no problems spending at the backup position.

  21. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    We could see some in house improvement in our LB corp in 2015.
    We saw hoe Jenkins rose up in his 2nd year, he’ll likely be better now in year 3 with the starting exp he had last season.
    If Tripp & McCain follow suit, then we got some good young talent there.
    I’d cut Wheeler…ASAP
    I’d then try to restructure Ellerbe, his missing all last season should help negotiations (he had a nice stat line for us in 2013).
    Misi…same as above.
    Trusnik & Sheppard isn’t costing us much, decent depth.
    Jake Knott—who the hell knows, but for now he’s here…young 2nd year kid from Iowa St.

    • professor lou's avatar professor lou says:

      Jenkins is a hoe?

    • dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

      Hoe Jenkins

    • professor lou's avatar professor lou says:

      We can do a lot better: Stephone Anthony, Jordan Hicks, Jeff Luc, Jermaine Holmes. Anthony as a starter, the other 3 as depth. Our depth at linebacker SUUUUCCCKKSS.

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        How many snaps have those guys played in the NFL? lol
        I know what you’re getting at, and I’m sure we still draft a LB, but those mid to late round guys can’t be expected to do any better than what we have in Jenkins, McCain & Tripp.

      • professor lou's avatar professor lou says:

        If The Hoe Jenkins continues to improve it’s a plus. As far as Tripp or McCain are concerned we still need to wait and see. I’m just as worried about the depth as I am about the starters. Trusnik still being here is a perfect example of why this team struggles. As long as the coaches think just good enough is good enough this team is going to be where it is for the next ten years.

  22. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    One more note about the cap…

    “NFL teams were informed at an NFL meeting on Dec. 9 that the 2015 salary cap is preliminarily projected to be between $138.6 million and $141.8 million. The actual salary cap this year is 5.3 percent higher than the preliminary projections this time last year. When the 2015 salary cap is set in late February or early March, the expectation is for it to once again exceed initial projections.” — CBSsports.com

    Last year going into Feb, the cap projection was 123 mill and the actual cap was set to 133.

    There was a rumor in November that the cap could be as high as 155-160 million when set in late Feb / early March of this year.

    My guess is that the cap will be at least 10 million higher than the 140 projection.

    I think someone like Dawne Aponte who is aggressive with the cap considered these things (as investment houses do when they buy/sell assets based on their own internal assumptions of macro econ environment).

  23. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    As Lou said earlier, we need to be creative and trade down. I think we can land 2 very productive rookie WRs between rounds 2-5. To me Justin Hardy is the must have WR this draft for our team. Partner him up with most of the guys that Lou had listed above and were in business. It will be a high IQ player so it may narrow the list to Lockett, Perriman, & Dorsett.

    • dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

      Also you take a chance on someone like Kasen Williams as a possible UDFA who had a really great skillset prior to his lisfranc injury that he’s still working his way back from.

    • professor lou's avatar professor lou says:

      Love Hardy. If there is one guy I definitely want in this draft it’s him. Or is it Tomlinson? lol. But if we take ONE wr it’s Hardy. 2nd guy I’d be heppy with any of them and I like Mayle a lot .

  24. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    GDP,
    No point cutting Wheeler as the savings to the cap space is only 200,000$.
    He has not been great but he’s a veteran and is still better than virtually all backups.

  25. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Dbolt,
    You don’t have to convince me, you know how I feel about trading down in any year :).
    2 guesses (that’s what scouting basically comes down to) is always better than 1 🙂

    • dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

      LOL. The thing is I really think we could land just as good a WR rounds 2-4 as we could round 1.

      • dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

        Perriman is my guy. Hardy and Perriman are both great RZ options who can score from anywhere on the field with one missed tackle. The key though I think will be football IQ and background checks on work ethic.

  26. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Lou,
    I don’t think the depth persay is terrible at LB, it’s just terrible at MLB where basically the team has none. All the guys playing MLB in the 4-3 formation are basically OLB.

  27. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    What pisses me off about the defensive personnell is that outside of the corners, the team basically is fielding 3-4 primary guys.

  28. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    Nice job OD. And they did it without cheating 🙂

  29. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 1
    One respected website rates Jared Odrick the second best DT in free agency and I’m starting to agree.

  30. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Do you guys think Matt Hazel might be a guy who makes a jump this year and could vie for a roster spot and maybe make it so we’re only looking for one WR?

  31. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    GDP,
    Agree that Tannehill won’t be cheap much longer but that’s an issue beyond 2015. As for Moore, he’s not getting any younger so his value (based on current price) is somewhat limited by age.

  32. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Lou,
    Why in the world would you waste your time with Tomlinson when Ali Marpet can be had later?
    Marpet is a superior athlete!

  33. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Boulder,
    I like Odrick and he is versatile but he’s really a 3-4 DT/DE.
    He’s not being used right in Miami.

  34. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    Al, I think fans spend too much time worrying about the salary cap. What the market is for players and what fans deem them to be are two different things. LOL

  35. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    I don’t really care much for what Wallace and the other WR are doing behind the scenes. There is alot of that in the NFL everywhere but I will say this that the behavior exhibited by the group collectively is a sign of a weak coach and a team lacking true leaders.

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      It’s a shame that a vet with a 60mill contract can’t be a leader.
      Jarvis and hopefully more just like him will change that.

  36. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    OD – Thank you so much for the great work! Thank you also for allowing us to publish it here, we’re more than happy to put it out there again and again, it’s that good. What could be better than a true fans recollection of that fabulous Miami Dolphins history.

  37. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Dbolt,
    I’m still wondering if the Fins may have plans to keep Pouncey at RG while plugging in a veteran center and drafting one to start in late 2015 or 2016 (let’s say, BJ Finney of KSTATE?)

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      That’s an interesting thought, but he never got comfortable at G this year. He looked average at best, whereas at C, although I don’t think he’s as good as his hype, he looked more comfortable, and did his job better. How much of last year was his hip is impossible for us to know though.

    • dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

      I doubt they keep him at RG. He needs power flanking him and that’s where Turner comes in. But if we did trade down in the draft I could see them bringing in a Center to develop and move on from Pouncey next year depending on his contract demands.

  38. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Al, correct on Tanny, but I still wouldn’t offer Matt more thanhalf of what he already got from us…IMO.

    • Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

      Moore has roughly 30 starts under his belt and has had some big games, multiple times, and is not some unknown commodity. You have to pay up for consistency in every sport. That’s why I think he’s paid what he’s paid. In many sports, teams allocate a certain amount of $ to a certain position (based on league averages usually in benchmark analysis) then work around that framework to cut from other positions or add to them.

  39. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    I know Mike E doesn’t want to hear this but one of the underrated stories going into 2016 and the OL is Arthur Lynch. Clay makes for a nice HBACK but he’s not a world beater as an inline blocker. I think if Lynch can prove himself; having him and Sims on opposite sides of the line will help alot in short yardage situations.

  40. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    OD, when you gonna join the 21st century? LOL, just kidding, good revision on the long ago 72 Phins.

  41. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LOL Al – I don’t mind Lynch making the team if he can help block, but can we please find a legit pass catching TE with size and speed, and one that can be a true threat to catch balls in the end zone?

  42. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Mike E,
    I hear ya on Pouncey but he was basically asked to start playing OG mid season without any offseason mental prepareation for the position. He was talented enough to just pick it up on the fly when asked to by the coaches which is what made it possible for the team to do it (had done it before as a starter; albeit at a lower level of competition).

  43. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Mike E,
    If Pouncey can say at OG, then he’s got the right side covered with James at RT. On the left side, Billy Turner can probably end up starting at LG with Albert at LT. That just leaves the C up for grabs. Thomas will be the new Nate Garner playing all the spots lol.

  44. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Silly Tim is here

  45. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    I see all the love on Hardy…I like him, but he’s mostly a slot guy…do we move Landry outside?
    Hardy is not near as physical on press cvg or contesting jump balls.
    Ty Montgomery has equivalent or better speed, but is more physical and suited for the outside game. He also is a deft returner, so that could relive Landry of those duties….a nice bonus.

    I also like the size and play abilities of Perriman & Mayle.

    • dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

      He’s been perfectly effective playing on the boundary & he can feast anywhere he’s lined up. He is quicker and has better acceleration than Landry. That acceleration what differentiates them.

    • Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

      Landry wouldn’t be a good option on the outside. You have to be able to burn your fast corner over the top and that won’t happen with Landry out of the X (maybe some success in the Z). Hartline for what it’s worth, still has an elite double move that gets him open often over the top.

    • dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

      I do like Montgomery, but he fights the ball a lot. Has Randall Cobb qualities, except for his hands.

  46. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    Mike E, thanks bro!

    I think having a tall, fast TE who can split the seam and be a dominant red zone guy is more of a luxury than a have to have, and they’re not easy to find. It’s not like every team has a Gronk or Graham.

    If we can add a big playmaking WR I think Clay, Sims and Lynch can be a very productive group.

  47. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    I’m trying to get more intel on TCU LT Tayo Fabuluje :/. This guy can move for a fatty.

  48. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    UK – I think Hayden Planetarium (Family Joke) is very cute.
    http://www.amnh.org/our-research/hayden-planetarium?gclid=CLGDqNn_tsMCFRMkgQodYkMADw

  49. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Dbolt,
    Regarding size, i think it works both ways. If you say Pouncey isn’t ideal because of his size at OG, then it should hold the same for C which lines up against even heavier guys than the OG.

  50. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    Al, you were mentioning that we have better 3-4 personnel and I agree to an extent mainly with the edge guys. But we do not have a NT or enough ILB depth. I don’t think putting Mitchell back at NT best utilizes his skill set. Maybe here and there, but his quickness is better utilized shooting the gaps.

    That said, I don’t think the base defense means much anymore because of how teams use the spread formations and defenses have to play nicke/dime and matchups. It still comes down to pressuring the QB regardless of formation and tackling well.

  51. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Pouncey needs to return to C until we can see what we’ll get with Brenner in time.
    Turner can be looked @ RG or LG…I’d see if we can sign Orlando Franklin or Clint Boling.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

      I see Brenner as another Satele but not as talented – smallish and gets overpowered. I don’t think he’s a long-term guy. We should look for a C/G to be a backup and who could possibly be a starter someday. Not a high draft pick, a developmental guy.

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      I wanted Franklin when he was in the draft, he’d be a great addition to our O.

  52. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Tim,
    That’s what Brenner is, a developmental guy, he’s young. But hopefully we get extra picks from a trade down and/or comp picks too. Then we’ll have the luxury to draft a C as well as other future needs.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Dumping Shelly Smith is about a $3M savings. I wonder what Benton thinks of him?

    • Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

      He didn’t even make the team this year, he was re-signed to the PS. I’m not sure we’ll get comp picks this year. Did we lose any significant FAs last year other than Soliai? We added a high-priced FA in Albert.

      I’m not sure if having to revamp the OL will result in a comp pick or two.

  53. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Question of the day…what does Philbin do with Charlie Bullen?

  54. D's avatar D says:

    GDP, i despise Wheeler but to be honest, little to know way we get a quality backup for twhat we save by cutting him. 200k isnt is less than half of whats paid to a 7th round pick, people signed to futures contracts get more than double that too, so while i agree i would like him gone, i think we should retain him one more year and use him as a backup. I want him out of the starting lineup because he is a liability but we simply cant get a better backup, especially with the experience he has in our system for a better deal. He will be gone in 2016 i can promise that but i strongly feel he wears teal and orange next year.

    • D's avatar D says:

      little to no…why would a phone turn no to know….

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Yeah, could happen that way from a numbers standpoint.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

      Al has mentioned this a lot with Wheeler. I know we can’t rely on Misi because he’s been struggling with durability issues in recent years, but if does happen to stay healthy along with Jenkins, if we can add an impact LB we could be very solid at LB. We do need to upgrade the depth as well.

      • professor lou's avatar professor lou says:

        Based on Misi’s production thru 12 games, if he stayed healthy for the entire season, he would have had close to 100 tackles which would have put him in good company at his position. However, numbers don’t always tell the whole story. It depends on where you make those tackles. If he’s getting them close to the line that’s fine but a lot of his tackles tend to be 5 to 6 yds down the field.

  55. new age's avatar new age says:

    OD,
    Glad to see you and your fantastic articles here! Always love reading about the glory years.

  56. D's avatar D says:

    Crazy when i look at Earl Mitchell’s contract and his dead money hit. Entire length of the contract 0 in dead money…. 0! man didnt get a dime of guaranteed money, only got 500k in signing bonus and has 0 in incentive bonuses. Dude wanted to sign here bad lol.

  57. professor lou's avatar professor lou says:

    Al,
    You’re kidding me about Marpett right? Before the Senior Bowl nobody even knew who he was and now he’s a superior athlete to Tomlinson? Not in a million years. Tomlinson is going to rise on the draft board before we get there. The kid can turn his defender and make him go where HE wants him to go. Put him on the right side with James and we’ve got one of the best right sides in the business.

  58. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Tesla P85D Insane Mode Launch Reactions Compilation

  59. D's avatar D says:

    I think our LB corp is one stud at MLB from being a real strength of the team. I feel very good for us at OLB, and very bad about out situation at MLB. We gotta patch that hole. DT in FA, will fix that, and a ILB and SS/FS in draft early will fix the other. We have enough potential security at the ILB and S positions that we can afford to do it though the draft, and if we get our starter there or even a guy who is able to start by mid season, we will be in a really good spot.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

      Aikens being able to win the other safety job would be great. He has good size, he’s played corner, he’s a good tackler. I feel we need to get a little bigger in the secondary.

      • dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

        See if he can pull his head out of his ass. No reason should you be suspended as a rookie to close out the season.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      I’d take a shot at Mason Foster in FA for the inside duties if he’s reasonable enough cost wise. He’s much younger than Harris who’ll probably be signed by Rex in Buffalo, and Spikes isn’t a 3 dn LB.
      Then draft a LB later in the draft if coaches feel Tripp isn’t coming along.

  60. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Your score is: 5433 (GRADE: A-)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 14: Leonard Williams, DT, Southern California (A)
    Round 2 Pick 15: Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB, Oregon (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 14: Clive Walford, TE, Miami (Fla.) (A)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (A)
    Round 5 Pick 14: Ty Montgomery, WR, Stanford (A)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Tyler Varga, FB, Yale (A)
    Round 7 Pick 15: Derrick Malone Jr., OLB, Oregon (B+)

  61. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    Lou, I know you’re not a Misi fan but when he was healthy he was filling those gaps against the run and wasn’t a liability in coverage. I saw him matchup pretty good. But his high-ankle sprain haunted him all year. We need to add better talent to the LB group overall and let it work itself out.

  62. new age's avatar new age says:

    So, are the guys wanting a Tomlinson or Marpett,etc looking in the 2nd round and later for these guys? What are the 3 primary needs in this draft for us since we wnt 3 starters from this draft?

    • professor lou's avatar professor lou says:

      WR, WR, WR lol

    • professor lou's avatar professor lou says:

      I think we need to continue to fix the o-line and we need to work on the d-line. O-line to help with both run and pass blocking and d-line to help against the run. Then we also need to upgrade the wr’s as Hartline, Gibson and Matthews are offering little in return for their time here and the investment made in Hartline. If we can the DT we need, the o-lineman we need and at least one wr, hopefully two, it’s a good place to start. I think we can get all three and all three would be starters either at the beginning of the season or sometime during the season.
      I also don’t care if Turner and Thomas LOOK like options on the line I’d still rather go after one of the better o-linemen in the first two or three rounds.
      Then, we also have to start looking at upgrading our depth at some positions as guys like Jimmy Makes Plays hasn’t worked out at the nickel. That’s why I like someone like Quandre Diggs as the new nickel since he’s played it so much in college and has done well there.
      Guys like Martrell Spaight and Jacorey Shepherd to provide depth at LB and CB respectively

  63. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Lou

    Do you think Derrick Malone will be an OLB or S in the NFL?

  64. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero
    Tony McDaniel was a backup for the #Dolphins. He started all but 2 games in the regular season for the #Seahawks.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

      Yeah he was mainly a backup under Sparano and wasn’t overly productive. In 2012 under Philbin he was banged up much of the year and missed 5 games. Nice try Armando!

  65. D's avatar D says:

    LOL damn that Tesla is friggin impressive.

  66. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    Dbolt, the situation with Aikens is unclear. It had something to do with police but he wasn’t arrested. It seemed like until further details came out, he was simply punished by the team for not using better judgement. But it doesn’t seem to be anything serious.

  67. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    Lou, some good Chapman stuff.

  68. professor lou's avatar professor lou says:

    Shit, David Johnson has moved way up since his Senior Bowl performance. RB of the week in practice and then a nice 19 yd td run on the first series of the game followed by a couple nice kick returns and couple other good runs. Shows pretty good moves for a big guy but like they said, he needs to be more aggressive like Bell.

  69. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    I see the new fad is making LBs safeties. Not as easy as people think.

  70. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Mike E, I’ve seen times on him being slower…that must be his best low…he’s too much of a tweaner for me right now. I rather see him put on more muscle weight and stay a LB.
    Also remember the trouble we’re having with another tweaner from Oregon. 😉

  71. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    Mike E, you would take Shelton over Williams?

  72. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    I’m driving around town and see this lol
    http://goo.gl/5dclwp

  73. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    GDP – I’m not dissing your opinion, I just want some others as well.

  74. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    misi started playing like shit once his baby was born. Not sure if it was late nights or what. 🙂

  75. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Al – That’s the official Finsmob Unleashed utility vehicle. lol

  76. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Al – Have you seen Derrick Malone play? S or OLB? Worth a late RD pick?

  77. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    Mr. Bean and his daughter.

  78. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    Misi had a high ankle sprain coming out of TC and it lingered all season. He tried to play through it.

  79. TryPod's avatar Try Pod says:

    $1.89 @ MAPCO for 87 octane

  80. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I hate that my Subaru uses only premium. They gouge the crap out of you for premium!

  81. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    Try, yeah NJ is usually one of the cheaper states for gas prices. It’s crazy, CT which isn’t very far has ridiculously high gas prices. I’ve seen $1+ more up there.

  82. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    The LB I like from Oregon is Tony Washington, I’ve mentioned him before. He’s doing what we should have Jordan doing @ OLB.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

      How do you know what we should be doing with Jordan? Everyone acts like it’s everyone’s fault but his. Seriously, Jordan can’t do what Vernon does, play both hand in the ground and standing up? Why is it so complicated for him? I’m also still waiting for someone to show me another example of a 6-7 250+ 4-3 OLB.

  83. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    Lou, can’t watch any of those right now. I’ll check them out later.

  84. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    Mike E, I get what you’re saying. I was told years ago from different mechanics that premium gas was BS and you can periodically use a cleaner with a tank of gas.

  85. professor lou's avatar professor lou says:

    BBL

  86. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Dadi Nicolas was a kid I was hoping would declare for the draft, he’s freaky fast for a big guy, was playing DE @ Va Tech, but with his speed and lighter weight, he’d also make a good LB as he was able to drop into coverage at times. He was projected to be a later round pick this year, but I think he’s staying in school with hopes of another big season and get into the front end of the draft in 2016.

  87. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim – I’ve gone to some Subaru forums, some say what you say, but a few mechanics went on there and said they work on these engines all the time, and if you don’t use premium, the carbon deposits will destroy your heads. I’ve been doing it for 10 years, I may as well continue, especially at these prices.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

      I say this because I had a 1991 Subaru Legacy Wagon back in the day and I was told the same thing by Subaru but other mechanics said don’t worry about it and I used 87 or 89. Gas wasn’t as expensive back then so I used 89 some of the time.

  88. TryPod's avatar Try Pod says:

    I love it when people “come out of the closet”, as if we are supposed to be surprised. The latest: Joel Grey. “You don’t say?” Lol
    That’s would be like a pro wrestler confessing, “I use steroids”.
    I don’t care, I’m happy for him, but shit..
    Adam Lambert “I’m gay”.. wow, I did not see that coming…

    • Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

      I guess it’s difficult for some in different ways. People still have issues with it and I still can’t figure out what the big deal is.

      • TryPod's avatar Try Pod says:

        Sure, I get that. I’m not hiding anything (much-lol), so I can’t speak to the angst done may feel. I just don’t know why it always seems to be like a press conference situation.

  89. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    GDP,
    That gas station is by a busy commercial area (warehouses and tourist malls) near the airport (Doral, FL). My guess is that the Shell there takes advantage of commercial vehicles (including car rentals) who’s drivers are not price conscious. By my house, 87 octane ( with 10% ethanol) is 2:05 – 2:07. 93 octane is around 2:20.

    Try,
    Regarding NJ gas prices, the state hasn’t increased their gas tax since the early 80s (2nd lowest petro taxes in US I believe). Best part is, someone pumps the gas for you 😀. That is money come freezing weather lol.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Ok, so it’s inline with up this way a couple hundred miles.

    • TryPod's avatar Try Pod says:

      I hear you! The last station that pumped gas around here left about a year ago. My wife lies to wait until I am in the car to decide she needs gas. Sometimes she’ll even admit why she waited Lol

  90. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Tim, Ted Hendricks, Anthony Barr…besides, Jordan was projected to be a strong side LB in the NFL He played a hybrid of that @ Oregon. But seems this staff that was present when he was drafted can’t figure him out. So don’t bitch at me…lol

    • Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

      He played in a 3-4 at Oregon as a stand up OLB. He was projected as a 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE if he added some weight and strength. Nothing has changed, we play a hybrid defense and use him in both roles so where’s the production? He’s also gotten off to a slow start with injuries and suspensions so maybe it’s time to look at Jordan. McCain didn’t seem to have an issue before he got hurt and neither has Vernon. Hmmm…

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        I never said I don’t blame Jordan…he was apparently misread by our staff & past GM. Too bad, cause he has a lot of talent…just hasn’t realized his potential yet.
        My point was originally to Mike E, about being careful with Ducks LB’s.

  91. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    GDP? Wait… Ted Hendricks? LOL

  92. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    Try, is it a press conference situation or does the media make it become that?

  93. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Mike,
    This debate gone on for years. Bottom line is the higher the octane, the more consistent the explosions of each fuel cell during combustion. Thus you will notice in a high performance vehicle (v6 or greater for instance) the difference in power noticeably when you slam on the gas.

    Funny that you mention Subaru. Ever read this?
    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2014/07/faulty_piston_rings_in_subarus_could_lead_to_engine_failure_suit_filed_in_nj_says.html

  94. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero
    The Jags got little production from Tony McDaniel. The Dolphins got more. The Seahawks got more still. Don’t think that’s coincidence.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

      Not really but keep trying Armando. He’s a decent player, nothing special. His numbers were better as a rotation guy with us than as a starter with SEA. LOL

  95. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    DECManagement @davidcanter
    Chiefs CB Sean Smith’s Consistency Helped Lead Chiefs Defense. Love seeing the growth @SeanSMITH24

  96. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    ““I played for (Tannenbaum) in New York with the Jets, and he put together a couple good football teams back in New York, getting to back-to-back AFC Championships. He’s a good guy who’s had some success. I hope the power structure as it’s laid out kind of falls into place and works for all parties involved.”

    Good to hear that from Jason Taylor. Respect his opinion. He might be wrong, but if he didn’t believe it he wouldn’t say it.

  97. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    Try, I have yet to see a coming out press conference. Somebody says it publicly I guess and the media blasts it everywhere.

    • TryPod's avatar Try Pod says:

      I did say “..like a press conference situation”. It’s missing the bigger point though on way say anything at all? It’s really nobody’s business. But making an announcement is like saying, “look at me- I need acknowledgment!” My distaste for it comes from the same place as my distaste for football player behavior (when one does what the deem as “special and needing recognition”.

  98. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    “While many skeptics doubted Shula and his Dolphins, I did NOT.”

    And great to have OD’s wonderful and to the point insights back on the page. Feels even more like home now.

  99. Tim Knight's avatar Silly Tim says:

    GDP, I wasn’t accusing you of saying it’s not on Jordan, but everyone thinks they know what he is except for our coaches. They have lined him up on both sides, hand in the ground, standing up, inside dropping in coverage, even at DT on passing downs? Maybe they should try him at corner. LOL

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Nooo, move him back to TE where he was as a HS star.
      There’s our seam threat & big red zone target…BOOM…mystery solved.

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