What Make Hulk Angry: January 27, 2015

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By Dr. Bruce Banner

Hulk back to writing. Hulk took some time to hopefully cool off from typical end ofseason disappointment so that Hulk may calm down and relax. But you know what? It no help. Hulk still angry. Hulk always be angry. Here is what make Hulk angry now:

Cheaters. Hulk angry at cheaters and that this year’s Super Bowl is a testament to the fact that cheating pays off and will be rewarded. This now Patriots 3rd time caught cheating. They stole other teams’ signs. League says bad, don’t do it again and we will destroy the evidence. Patriots caught video taping other team’s walk through. Nothing happens. Now Patriots caught deflating balls in Championship game. Hulk no want to hear that it had no effect on game. That not the point, the point is that Patriots cheat and break rules even when they don’t have to.

Seahawks no better. In recent years 65% of players suspended for PEDs have been Seahawks. Hulk no think that a coincidence. Hulk no believe that coach Carroll no know about his players cheating so often. Coach Carroll no different than coach Bellicheat. He always look for advantage like paying all his college players to play game when he no supposed to. He cheat in college and no surprise his team What Make Hulk Angry?caught cheating at pro level. Hulk no even want to watch Super Bowl this year because no matter who wins it proves that cheating pays off and that make Hulk angry.

Hulk also angry that coach Coyle is still defensive coordinator despite his pussy two and three man pass rush defensive schemes that cost Hulk’s Phins wins in Detroit and Denver games. Hulk even angrier that coach Coyle kept when other good defensive coordinators available this year. Like coach Fangio from 49ers, or coach Schwartz from Bills or coach Nolan from Falcons. Hulk no want to hear about Falcons bad D last year. Falcons have terrible personel on D, that why FO all changed there. Coach Nolan can coach D. All these coaches have proven track records as defensive coordinators. All were available and yet we still have Kevin Coyle.

Hulk also angry that Mr. Ross now hire Mike Tannebaum. Hulk angry that it marginalizes Dennis Hickey in Dolphins organization. Hulk like Dennis Hickey, he 1st GM that actually draft 2 impact rookies for Dolphins in long time. But to make things even worse the hire is Mike Tannebaum, the man behind the collapse of the Jets roster over the last several years. This is the Mike Tannebaum that decided to trade for and put all his hopes on Brett Favre as Jets QB. This is the GM that decided to trade up for Mark Sanchez. This is the same GM that decided to extend contract on Mark Sanchez in one of dumbest contracts ever that put Jets into salary cap hell. This is the same GM that thought it was good idea to sign Tim Tebow when no one else wanted him. This is the man that now runs our football operations. That make Hulk very angry.

But Hulk not all angry right now. You know what make Hulk happy? Beautiful new website and seeing old friends. That make Hulk much happier:

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432 Responses to What Make Hulk Angry: January 27, 2015

  1. The Flying Pig says:

    Oink and first

  2. Mike E. says:

    Great job Ken, er Hulk! I think you might have something there. I wonder if we looked at Coyle’s defensive playcharts if we found he calls those formations the “Pussy 2” and the “Pussy 3”

  3. Mike E. says:

    Anyone have any idea why the most recent post doesn’t have a tab at the top of the page? It’s confusing to find it, unless you look under the “Most recent articles” heading.

  4. The Flying Pig says:

    New Oinkee Poll is up
    Vote Oinkee
    Now is your chance to vote for Dolphins MVP

  5. dbolt48 says:

    I would think having testicles that resemble Brussel sprouts would make Hulk angry

  6. twicethethe says:

    Don’t know why it’s doing that – tried a couple things but no luck. Maybe it will eventually update. I blame the blizzard lol

  7. son of a son of a shula says:

  8. Try Pod says:

    Another thing I don’t know how to explain- why does it not cone up to the most recent post when you put on the address? At the purge place if you closed out the browser and brought it up fresh, it defaulted to the most recent post.

  9. Mike E. says:

    For some reason, Csonk reminds me of Mongo in that pic, when Mongo says “Mongo not know, Mongo just pawn in game of life”.

  10. D says:

    Ok so food for thought on Wallace situation.

    First, and likely most debatable part of what im about to say, is nothing about Mike Wallace isnt replaceable, even his speed which isn’t as prolific as it use to be. When he entered the NFL you had a handful of guys who could run like him, now there are at least 3-4 times that many. Straight line speed does not a receiver make,(ball skills, fight, route running, hands, etc) and there is more to being a good teammate than what you can do on the field to make yourself look good. I feel there are draft picks that could come in and give us everything Wallace does for a fraction of the cost.

    I know he doesn’t save us a ton of money towards the cap THIS year, but next year its damn near 10mil. This year its only 2.5 but think about it this way….number 1 draft pick at pick 12 was Odell Beckham Jr. Giants cap hit for him was 1.8mil, so good example of a quailty WR, drafted earlier than we pick next year, and what cost was associated with that pick, so if you see it this way, 2.5 mil savings, to get Odell Beckham Jr, and have 770k left over, the cost of replacing Wallace doesnt look so high, everyone fears the dreaded dead money, but really the proper way to look at it is can you replace the guy for what you save on cap. To me the answer is a definite YES.

    Kyle Fuller was the 14th overall pick by the Bears, and his cap hit was 1.76mil, again, think of it this way would White, Parker, DGB, Funchess, Strong, or Cooper, one of which will almost definitely be there at 14, replace Wallace adequately enough that the 7-800k that’s left over wouldn’t have made it worth it? Wallace doesn’t help in the red zone, guys i listed above would.

    Need even more evidence, take guys like Devin Smith, Dorsett, Hardy, etc. Its a stretch to say one of those guys would walk in with better projection numbers than Wallace but i don’t think its a BIG stretch, those guys sit anywhere between a 2nd and 4th round projection, you’re talking about Landry money at best, which was only 630k towards cap, or roughly a 1.9mil savings by cutting Wallace.

    I strongly feel there is less likelihood he is cut than there is he stays, however i think the power that be see this number like i do and less like most fans do. I think its a lot closer to a cut than most people think. Add in the fact he has been a bitch and moaner, he disrespects his team and coach because of his selfishness, and continues to think he should be the only person catching balls, i think you start to slide the scale further and further over to the tipping point. Again im more confident he will be here next year unfortunately, because pissing away 9+ mil dollars never sounds like the right decision, but im living in maybe the 55/45 range of stays to goes. Its not a huge gap, id almost guarantee it.

    • D says:

      Should have said does not solely a receiver make, it is something that helps.

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      I hope wallace sticks. Yea he’s a pain but we’re a better team with wallace on it than without him. He caught 10 TDs last year and some of those catches were pretty awesome. I also think he’ll behave much better next year because he’s playing for a contract. He played great his last year in pitt because of that reason.
      .
      But knowing philbin he’ll probably cut him similar to davis, marshall, dansby etc….

      • D says:

        He isnt playing for a contract, unless he expects to be cut, which wouldnt make sense if we finally are getting production and better attitude out of him. We have him under contract through the 2017 season.

  11. D says:

    Wanna know what stands out to me on that picture, and it could be the design of the jersey’s nowdays, but you see something similar on each of those guys jersey’s, Cant you spot it?Something that to me says a ton about the character of players then vs now.

  12. son of a son of a shula says:

    D, I don’t think they’ll fire sale Wallace but if a decent deal can be had I think they’ll do it. When you have guys like Albert step up on behalf of Wallace I think that shows that things can get ironed out. I’m with you that I think Wallace is here for at least another year.
    Regardless, I would draft a speedster this year to start working into the system.

  13. son of a son of a shula says:

    D, the stains stand out but what are you saying?

    • D says:

      Yes the grass stains is what im referring to. Guy played friggin hard back then, they went all out, pussified NFL these days most dont get their uni’s dirty.

  14. The Flying Pig says:

    Don’t forget to vote Oinkee

  15. D says:

    My preference for Wallace is we trade him to a team with a similar situation, can think of three teams off the top of my head with expensive contract receivers who might make a good match. Houston, Arizona, and TB all have receivers that they could trade 1 for 1, all of them have contracts in the neighborhood of Wallace. Wallace isnt going to budge for us on contrat but he could renegotiate for a new team, dont know if he would but lot better likelihood than him doing it for us. We also could likely get another player, especially like Johnson or Fitzgerald to renegotiate some, or even extend in the case of Fitzgerald to get the cap hit down some.

    • D says:

      Id be less excited about the trade with TB, as i have never overly been a fan of Vincent Jackson, but he is a very good receiver.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        Me either I wouldn’t want VJ here. I’d rather work things out with Wallace and get a big receiver in the draft.

  16. Mike E. says:

    I don’t think we’ll be able to trade Wallace, so buckle up your seatbelts, and hope we can fix things with him. He’s a good player, that if used properly, can be a great player.

  17. Tim Knight says:

    Well we escaped that storm, only about 4 inches. I hope you New Englanders and Long Islanders are okay.

  18. stangerx says:

    Great to see the first Hulk piece on the new board. Feels like home now.

    Is anyone in the free hugs from Hulk line? Would really like one, but want to see what happens to the first one in line first.

  19. finfanrob says:

    i have no idea what all you guys are complaining about the location of the article or what not. i have no problem when i open the site the most current article is up on top.

    maybe it all does porno sites you guys DON’T go to that has your pc’s all fucked up.

  20. finfanrob says:

    it would be cool if that storm knocks the power out in new england till next monday. that would be fitting that the cheaters cant watch the SB

  21. finfanrob says:

    X

    you will like it. trust me i get all sorts of hh’s (hulkhugs) from him in my basement.

  22. getterdone says:

    Is Miko leading the MVP votes on our Poll yet?

  23. Tim Knight says:

    Ken, Woody Johnson wanted Tebow, not anyone else on the Jets.

  24. stangerx says:

    ““No one knows the facts. I pick 24 balls, that’s what I pick. Whatever happened after I did it, and whatever the situation was where they measured them, I have no idea any of those facts.”

    So basically they give 24 balls to choose from before the game. 12 are regulation inflated, 12 are deflated. He chooses the 12 deflated ones. They present the inflated ones to the officials, and somehow by game time the inflation is the same as the ones he chose.

  25. jahndoh says:

    Ken/Boulder. I posted this the other day. It’s from the article written by that guy Ken heard interviewed. The article link is included. Look at the graph, what are the odds? Well, the author tells us…more then 1 in 16,234.

    And here’s the full article. It’s compelling and conclusive:
    http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/2015/the-new-england-patriots-prevention-of-fumbles-is-nearly-impossible

    • jahndoh says:

      For those of you who know what a normal distribution curve looks like, that blurb WAY out there on the tail at 190 is the Cheatriots:

    • stangerx says:

      Awesome article Jahn. It is pretty much impossible. Neither the laws of physics or statistics are kind to the Pats these days.

      And it makes all the sense in the world. Nobody was checking the air pressure of our game balls when we played rugby. If it was real tight first time I touched it, made a mental note — “this thing is gonna pop out real easy.” Meant I protected it more and was trying to poke it when guys on the other team were running at me.

      • jahndoh says:

        Totally. It’s actually the kind of evil genius that I’d expect from Belicheat. I have to admit, he’s a champion when it comes to skirting the rules, and Pat fans who tell me some bullshit line about how rubbing balls makes them inflate more are the undeniable world champs of rationalizing.

      • dbolt48 says:

        Jahn,
        Like I posted on Twitter, they’d have to use belt sanders on the footballs for a while to get PSI to increase like they claim.

  26. jahndoh says:

    Nice write Hulk. Loved the addition of Huggy Hulk.

    • jahndoh says:

      Also, not to be contentious, because I wish it were true, but the recording of the walkthrough based on the evidence…didn’t happen. The employee who alleged it backtracked and collaborating evidence (there was no power supplied to the location they were settting up the cameras (legally, for the game the next day), there was no recording media in the camera, and interviews collaborating that (with another Patriot employee, and a stadium employee (unaffiliated with the Patriots).

      I still think they’ve cheated way more then 3 times, I just don’t think you can count that as one of the times they’ve been “caught” because the NFL doesn’t see it that way, so it won’t affect any punishment metted out for deflategate, which, I hate to say, and am sorry to say to you guys…I think will be nothing. They get off scott-free, but the world won’t forget.

  27. getterdone says:

    Hey Jahn, thought you might appreciate the tables & charts here on the lack of Patriots fumbles post 2006.
    http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2015/01/stats_show_the_new_england_patriots_became_nearly_fumble_proof_after_a_2006.html

  28. finfanrob says:

    jahn

    i know i for one have said that too and i am not the only one on here. i think most on here think this will just be swept under the rug and there will be no punishment for the cheats. well i mean maybe other then the nfl takes away 5 penalties away from them next year. i can see roger now.

    while at krafts house cleaning his pool. you know mr kraft, i think to be fair i am going to have to take away at least 5 or 6 of those made up calls in your favor next year.

    • jahndoh says:

      More likely they’ll change the rule to suit whatever Brady wants to do with his balls, then hold it up as some sort of definitive action the league has taken to deal with this problem.

  29. finfanrob says:

    jahndoh says:
    January 27, 2015 at 11:55 am

    I threw in a bunch of parentheses to confuse FFR. (hint, they’re not matched FFR!)

    ha, parentheses. yeah, like your $12 words dont already confuse me enough.

  30. getterdone says:

    I find it interesting that law firm Ben Jarvis Green Ellis had no fumbles in 4yrs with the Pats, but 5 in 2 yrs with the Bengals…smh

  31. finfanrob says:

    jahndoh says:
    January 27, 2015 at 12:03 pm

    More likely they’ll change the rule to suit whatever Brady wants to do with his balls, then hold it up as some sort of definitive action the league has taken to deal with this problem.

    that is why you are god. i bet you are spot on with that one.

  32. Mike E. says:

    New England coaches players not to fumble. That’s what Belichick will mumble to you.

  33. getterdone says:

    Houstom we have a Problem….
    WOW, the Dolphins spent $29.7 million receivers last year, a ridiculous 22.3 percent of their cap. That led the league in a department you don’t want to lead the league in.
    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/dave-hyde-blog/sfl-hyde5-20150126-story.html?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DaveHyde-blog+%28Dave+Hyde+%7C+Sun+Sentinel+blogs%29

    • dbolt48 says:

      If I’m Miami I cut bait with Wallace,Gibson, & Hartline. I tell Matthews he enters the off-Season as one of the starters and it’s his job to remain as the number 2. I’d bring in a Vet like Nicks to push for playing time and load up on talented rookie WRs. Landry would be the leader of the receiver room. I think if Matthews thinks he will actually get his shot, he may pull his head out of his ass.

      • jahndoh says:

        Jettisoning way too much talent at once and putting way too much faith that Matthews is going to do something he clearly seems ill equipped to do. I’d rather not jettison ANY of those guys then ALL of those guys. That’s extreme.

      • dbolt48 says:

        Jahn that’s why Id add Nicks….possibly Eddie Royal also. I rid the locker room of the puppet master show altogether. If Hartline is willing to renegotiate, he’s the line one I do that for.

  34. getterdone says:

    Keeping Wallace 1 more year makes the most sense to me.
    Cut Gibson & Hartline to get the most Cap savings.
    2015 starting WR corp as of now should be #1 Wallace #2 Landry #3 Matthews
    Draft 2 WR’s…a big possession WR like DGB, Parker, White & then a speedster to replace Wallace down the road, like Devin Smith, Phillip Dorsett.

    • jahndoh says:

      Would you do me a favor and stop cutting my favorite player. Just out of respect for me, add in the possibility he takes a pay cut. He’s still an excellent receiver…but you’ve advocated cutting him more consistently and more often then anyone else on the blog (or any blog lol)…show some compassion for your fellow fin fans who might really like the guy eh?

  35. herdfan says:

    These IT peeps at work have me totally blocked. I can’t even check my email. 😡

    • Mike E. says:

      That’s annoying . . .

    • D says:

      Now there are sneaky ways around it, i mentioned them briefly before, and it all depends on if your work has a public wifi, but it is possible to direct a browser or sometimes other thing like mail, etc through a different gateway/connection.

  36. BoulderPhinfan says:

    awesome article jahn. IT just proved that the pats are cheaters. I hate fuckin cheaters.

    • D says:

      I agree it has pretty much swayed me. I dont buy into a lot of conspiracies, especially when the source is a blog for of people who hate that team lol, but thats hard core evidence and statistics may not tell the whole truth all the time but they definitely point a good finger towards things that are very questionable at the least. At this point, however, i think that only way they pin it on them is to get someone to roll over on the team/coach/qb and from there the rest of the dominoes will fall.

  37. Mike E. says:

    You can’t cut Hartline, Wallace and Gibson all in the same year. That’s crazy. I still think it’s crazy to cut Wallace, I’ve felt that way from the start. Subtracting too much talent.

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      agreed. I think gibson will be gone. Hartline will hopefully restructure. Keep wallace for 1 more year
      .
      BUt again we’re talking about philbin here. He sent davis packing for wanting to pee at the wrong time. so you never know.

    • dbolt48 says:

      And you know I rest at the opposite end of the Spectrum 🙂

    • D says:

      I guess thats where the people that agree with cutting him and those that dont differ, i really dont think its a big loss. I do admit losing your entire starting WR lineup doesnt sound like the best idea but in my best case scenario, id cut Wallace, rengotiate with Gibson or Wallace to get their cap hit down, and cut the other, whichever would work with me. Hartlines actually has the most dead money hit of the two, so i guess there would be more financially to gain by keeping him, but overall savings to be had, is about the same. Wallace for me isnt about money savings, there is almost to be save by cutting him as Hartline, but for me its more about the type of player on our team. talent is only as good as the effort that talented play puts forth, and i dont think he is going to put forth full effort.

      • Mike E. says:

        You don’t think, but he put in a lot of effort during the season, maybe save for the last game. He played hard all season. That’s what I saw, and he made our team better. If our QB was able to hit him deep, we would be in the playoffs.

      • D says:

        I saw him play with concerted effort over the previous season where he half-asses every catch, so improvement of crap doesn’t mean high level of play, just means not so horrible. I will give you that point however, because i even supported how well he played after being one of his bigger critics the year before, seeing himas a one dimensional, not a great fit, WR. To me he changed my mind about a few things, i think eh COULD fit, though would never reach the full potential he could because his attitude is bad. What i saw was “ill try until i ddont get my way, then ill start bitching again to get my way, and if all else fails ill quit on my team”. I just dont want that kinda guy on my team when we need all of our players at top performance each week to win. People like that start a slide in the emotions of the rest and pretty soon that one bad apple does indeed spoil the bunch.

      • getterdone says:

        Mike, more like if Wallace held onto some of those deep balls we’d be in the playoffs, or more importantly if the OL gave Tanny more time he could let Wallace get open deep more often, then we’d be in the playoffs, and especially if our Defense didn’t collapse starting in Denver thru the rest of the season, then we’d be in the playoffs…STOP Blaming Tanny for us not being in the playoffs…he’s the only reason we ever even had a shot at the playoffs…IMHO!

      • dbolt48 says:

        Let’s not try to put the deep game on Tannehill. The Patriots game he underthrew his first deep pass and was pin point on everyone after that. Most of the problem lies with the OL allowing for things to develop. Also in that Minny game where Wallace makes that spectacular TDS grab….it was almost picked because that retard admitted to not knowing where he was on the field and ran the route wrong. Was supposed to be an 11yd comeback from the 16yd line and that fucker runs an extra 5yds to the endzone.

  38. getterdone says:

    Sorry Jahn, I’m ok with Hartline staying, but he’s got to take a 50% pay cut, and not sure he’s willing to restructure that low.
    Maybe Aponte & Hickey can find away to keep him…cutting Wallace instead is one way I suppose, and I think Wallace is a jackass, I like Brian better as a person, but hard to let go a guy who’s scored what 15 TD’s in 2 seasons here.

    • D says:

      Only argument i could see for not cutting Wallace over Hartline is something i actually heard brought up by Omar (granted he hates Hartline) and ill be paraphrasing because othewise Jahn will jump through he screen to kill me. Remember Jahn this is a sweetened up version of what Omar said, so be mad at him and be furious at him if you read what he really said. “Wallace can do most everythign Hartline can do, but Hartline cant do all of Wallace does” and to it i agree somewhat, but i also think Hartline brings more in the form of team loyalty, and leadership than Wallace so if i add those in, and im only saving 500k to keep Wallace over Hartline, im leaning towards keeping Hartline. If he takes a pay cut on top of that, hell year im going that way.

  39. D says:

    Mike to be certain, at this point its my opinion on it, its how and what i think we can expect of him given what he has shown us is a pattern with him. I dont think however there is anymore evidence to support that he wont act that way last year as there is a guarantee he will. I guess it will fall as it may, and ill be fine if he stays, but im not optimistic a leopard changes its spots.

  40. stangerx says:

    QUIZ of the DAY.
    Who is one of my favorite people of all right now in this pic?

  41. dbolt48 says:

    VIEW EACH TEAM’S DRAFT

    14: R1P14
    DT DANNY SHELTON
    WASHINGTON
    47: R2P15
    WR JUSTIN HARDY
    EAST CAROLINA
    78: R3P14
    OLB PAUL DAWSON
    TCU
    111: R4P15
    TE BEN KOYACK
    NOTRE DAME
    142: R5P14
    WR BRESHAD PERRIMAN
    CENTRAL FLORIDA
    175: R6P15
    CB KEVIN WHITE
    TCU
    207: R7P15
    S ADRIAN AMOS

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      You have 3 of the same guys I had last night and Tim called it the worst draft that he’d seen.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        But I have to say I do like this draft

      • D says:

        Dont like Koyak pick, i think he is going to be a rare ND TE bust. Rest of the draft ispretty solid. Perriman in the round ya got him i think is good. White has been impressive so 6th round for him and 7th round for Amos is really nice.

      • dbolt48 says:

        The only thing Tims an expert on is sticking his finger in a rotties ass 😋

  42. D says:

    D says:
    January 27, 2015 at 1:09 pm
    Only argument i could see for not cutting Wallace over Hartline is something i actually heard brought up by Omar (granted he hates Hartline) and ill be paraphrasing because othewise Jahn will jump through he screen to kill me. Remember Jahn this is a sweetened up version of what Omar said, so be mad at him and be furious at him if you read what he really said. “Wallace can do most everythign Hartline can do, but Hartline cant do all of Wallace does” and to it i agree somewhat, but i also think Hartline brings more in the form of team loyalty, and leadership than Wallace so if i add those in, and im only saving 500k to keep Wallace over Hartline, im leaning towards keeping Hartline. If he takes a pay cut on top of that, hell year im going that way.

  43. son of a son of a shula says:

    Wells, I’m not too sure Stanger

  44. Tim Knight says:

    LOL @ Son

    I was busting your balls about your mock draft.

  45. getterdone says:

    D, as I mentioned above…it will be scary to cut a healthy under 30 yo guy who just scored 15 TD’s the past 2 seasons without a surefire plan in place.

    • D says:

      I see your point, im just thinking not so much about what has he done previously as what he will do for us next. If his attitude hasnt change, he coulda been a 15 TD guy last year and he will be a shit pile this coming year. I know it makes more sense to prep up before pulling the trigger, and again, im thinking abotu 55% chance he stays, i just cant get behind overpaying a guy who may or may not do anything but eat up a roster spot. Im more of a fan of trading him for a productive player to make it more of an even swap, but i keep being told that will never happen.

    • dbolt48 says:

      My problem is Gibson essentially saying they don’t pay attention during meetings and you see this shit showing up during games. Go back to the Minny game in during the final TDS Gibson & Wallace both were getting bitched at by Ryan on the field for not lining up properly. The little add up.

  46. getterdone says:

    Baphomet Tim hurting Son’s feelings…that’s evil man…lol

  47. Mike E. says:

    D – I hear ya man. Besides the last game, he wasn’t a problem IMO. I don’t mind a WR who wants the ball. He fought for extra yards and contested catches all season, and that was never his strong suit, but he made it become that. I give him credit. I think Philbin should have a private meeting with Tannehill and Wallace, and work out their differences. If they irreconcilable, they should try and trade him, and if they can’t, I guess they have no choice but to cut him, but at least they made an effort to fix things.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I think the differences are about Wallace wanting to be the main target, and if that doesn’t happen in a particular game he gets pissy. I don’t think it has anything to do with Tannehill or Philbin having a problem with Wallace as a player. The quitting thing I’m sure didn’t sit well with a lot of guys on the team.

      • Mike E. says:

        From what I’ve read, Wallace was upset running all those curl routes, and short yardage routes, and not getting the opportunity to make big plays. Those are 2 totally different things. He’s a deep threat playmaker, that’s what he is, and we didn’t use him in that manner.

      • dbolt48 says:

        Mike,
        I’m glad he wants to run deep, but pass pro wouldn’t allow for it. Hey Id like $2billion in my checking account tomorrow, but at my salary it’s not going to happen.

  48. stangerx says:

    son of a son of a shula says:
    January 27, 2015 at 1:11 pm
    Wells, I’m not too sure Stanger
    ——————-
    DING DING DING
    Man does a real thorough investigation.
    Even if the final verdict is not to your liking, gonna be lots of great details on the Pats.

  49. getterdone says:

    I so wish Hickey had Jeffro’s 2013 draft with what 5 picks in the first 85 selections?
    Then maybe we wouldn’t be in this WR corp pickle with Wallace, nor on the DL, S, & LB, and OL…lol

  50. Mike E. says:

    Son

    Did Tim make you feel like he tied you to the pier and let the fishes eat at you?

  51. Tim Knight says:

    “My problem is Gibson essentially saying they don’t pay attention during meetings”

    I have a major problem with this kind of shit. WTF is that all about?

    • getterdone says:

      Lack of good coaching is what’s that all about!
      That’s why you see the poor execution on Sundays that you speak of!!!

    • dbolt48 says:

      It was essentially part of their little Twitter fiasco talking about the photo post game from end of season loss to the Jets. Essentially insinuating they were paying attention or didn’t care. Like I said that final drive against Minny you saw Ryan have to keep on correcting those two. That shouldn’t be the case when you have 2 rookies, Landry & Williams, getting lined up correctly. Like I said they weren’t doing the little things. You can’t have that shit permeating on your team.

  52. getterdone says:

    Andrew Abramson ✔ @AbramsonPBP
    Belichick was just asked what stuffed animals he likes. He picked a monkey finger puppet. Seriously.

  53. D says:

    Those saying Wallace’s last two year means he is a cant miss this and Hartline should be cut should think about it this way… Hartline was out leading receiver the year prior to Wallace and the year after Wallace got here, So to me this says two things.

    First, Wallace could easily, especially if he has a shitty attitude about playing, drop off production. With the way Landry is playing, id almost guarantee a drop off in TD’s, receptions, and potentially yardage. Add in another kid who is hungry, maybe more of a RZ threat and those numbers dip even further, so really he could wind up much like Hartline who was odd man out this year, just he will cost 12mil. Easily could happen.

    Secondly if you use Wallaces production number s as proof as to why to keep him, you have to do the same for Hartline. He has been out only 1k receiver in a while, and he did it back to back years. Wallace hasn’t hit that mark yet. To me since is strength is outside the 20’s where he can stretch the field his yardage number should be the most impressive part of his stats and they arent. I just dont see him as great as the rest of you do, he to me is an average receiver.

  54. Baphomet Tim says:

    The media should ask Belicheat what his favorite method of cheating is?

  55. ukfinfan says:

    Test 2

  56. son of a son of a shula says:

    Bill, besides cheating, what would you like your legacy to be?

  57. son of a son of a shula says:

    Hey UK glad you made it, good to see you

  58. Mike E. says:

    Hey UK! Good to see ya!

  59. stangerx says:

    Thought we all agreed the “no wankers” rule was in effect……lol

  60. getterdone says:

    Miko Grimes @iHeartMiko
    Im salty that my rant will cause the NBA to not ask Brent to play in the celebrity all-star game! He wants to play so bad! That part sucks!

  61. Baphomet Tim says:

    Dbolt, I would think the WRs would be in meetings with the OC quite a bit. Positions coaches are more relevant on the practice field, not game planning.

  62. son of a son of a shula says:

    Behaving the way they say in meetings, as Gibson and Wallace said, they are doing the team a dis service. That’s not on coaching that’s a lack of professionalism and it directly effects how the team plays on Sunday.

  63. Baphomet Tim says:

    UK in the house!

  64. getterdone says:

    D, Hartline has 12 TD’s in 6 years…that’s an avg of 2 per year…is that worth $7+M per yr?

    • D says:

      No, and his yardage totals don’t put him in that range either, he need to take a pay cut, but again, to me the Wallace of Hartline thing is about them, and what intangibles they bring to the team and whether those things add to or detract from the development of other players and/or the overall team chemistry. To me Wallace is a big ole negative in those areas and Hartline is at least a slight positive.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      It sounds like (urban-wise) she used it correctly in the sentence.
      Still looks like an idiot though, lol

  65. getterdone says:

    You can bet coaches like Lombardi, Ditka, Shula, Belicheat…wouldn’t put up with players not paying attention in team meetings. Not for one second….and even if it was in a positional coaches meeting, you can bet once those HC’s I mentioned heard wind of it, they’d be some ASS chewing goin on!

    • dbolt48 says:

      To me it sounds like some of these guys were coddled by our WR coach. We’ve heard that Wallace made these threats during a few different games, of not playing, and the Jets game was the first time it got back to Joe.

    • Baphomet Tim says:

      Belicheat put up with Randy Moss taking plays off. And how do you know the coaches haven’t been pissed off at some of these guys?

      So if Philbin cuts these slackers, he can’t handle egos, but if he does nothing about it then he’s not one of those great ass chewing coaches. I get how this works. LOL

  66. The Flying Pig says:

    Welcome UK!

  67. The Flying Pig says:

    I wish Phish would stop by and say hi
    UB too

  68. Try Pod says:

    I don’t know if everyone will visit/participate. I can think of a few that will likely not.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      That is true
      But truth is I want to maintain connections with people I did not have a fallout with
      And I don’t think doing that Interferes with their other relationships

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      They’re all welcome, its their choice

      • Try Pod says:

        That’s right. I understand, pig. But some people have an interpretation of ‘loyalty’ that I can’t make sense of.

  69. Ken says:

    What up FUers? Just a drive by after snow removal all morning. about 18″ here in Connecticut.

  70. D says:

    Interesting to me in all this deflategate stuff is the surprising absence of Giselle doing her normal twitter/social media and interview comments on anything that affects Brady.

    Also to me the big thing with this whole ordeal isnt what happens to the Pats as far as fine/picks but more about what happens as far as fallout between Brady and coach. Maybe after this, if Tom gets his Superbowl, maybe he decides to step out of this shit, and retires. I mean if ya think about it, kinda a win win for the team, they could dump all blame on him, and Brady as a former player with 4 rings, probably rides off into the sunset. Still i dont the relationship between Belichick and Brady has to be on the rocks after Belichick pretty much threw Brady under the bus early on.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Win or lose maybe they both go. It won’t be so easy to cheat going forward so whats the point, doubt they could win as much on a level playing field.
      I think that this one is bought and paid for so losing probably won’t happen but I hope they both leave.

  71. dbolt48 says:

    LOL:
    @chrisdevlin7700: @iHeartMiko @AbramsonPBP stop being such a salty bitch. U costing your husband money and fans are tired of ur crap

    • D says:

      WOW, nice. Its true though she was entertaining for like a minute, but she has become a big ole distraction and just annoyance. I wish she would get off twitter, and STFU. She and Omar are twitbuds too so another reason she needs to cage that bird.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      He hits from waaaaay downtown

    • dbolt48 says:

      Another gem:
      *
      @FinsFanIn813: @iHeartMiko Why squander opportunities for someone your supposedly trying to protect? Learn how to shut your trap and not make a fool of him

  72. getterdone says:

    Miko is an attention Ho.

  73. Baphomet Tim says:

    Dbolt, but while the Pats were going 16-0 and Moss was catching 20+ TDs Belicheat was fine with it.

  74. Ken says:

    Salt Lick is probably a better term for Miko. Am I a bad man?

  75. getterdone says:

    Sounds like Joe doesn’t have his thumb on the pulse of the team as he claimed he would after Bullygate. It’s alright, we didn’t have a losing season….not a winning one either….lol

  76. Ken says:

    Piggy:
    I doubt we see Phish but I bet we see UB at some point. His posting frequency has gone way down but I see him coming here at some point.

  77. Baphomet Tim says:

    Ken, I was bracing for 12-20 inches of snow but got probably 4-6. I saw it stop last night and it never really started again except for a little this morning.

  78. Ken says:

    Alright I got to try to do some work. I am out for now.

  79. getterdone says:

    We got to get Albert healthy ASAP….his Cap # is $10.725M
    I wonder if he’d be able to restructure 😉

  80. Baphomet Tim says:

    Why can’t I think of who UB is?

  81. finfanrob says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    January 27, 2015 at 1:56 pm

    That is true
    But truth is I want to maintain connections with people I did not have a fallout with
    And I don’t think doing that Interferes with their other relationships

    i agree. I always enjoyed reading Top. Even had fun at my own expense with him. I agree with Try, that some loyalty thing will keep them away. Which I dont get either. Not like any one did anything wrong and this place is open to all. Hell, last i looked there david was posting all the articles, i thought that was what the big admin fight was all about.

  82. BoulderPhinfan says:

    Rams want to trade for foles. I wonder if kelly will do that. If he doesn he must be in love with sanchize LOL

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/27/report-rams-interested-in-trading-for-nick-foles/

  83. getterdone says:

    Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley
    “I’m here so I won’t get fined.” — Marshawn Lynch, to every question. Yeah, that’s going to make the league happy.

    • getterdone says:

      WTF is wrong with these waaaay overpaid athletes today….would they want their childhood sports hero’s that influenced them to play the game act the same way back then?
      No class or humility at ALL….SMH

    • bookman11 says:

      Now they should fine him for saying that….LOL

  84. The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t understand the nfl attacking lynch for shoes
    But the whole refusing to speak with the media thing is weird

  85. getterdone says:

    I saw Phelonius Phish on the other blog….did he get an invite here too?

    • getterdone says:

      Dcoralsprings? Naples?

      • Baphomet Tim says:

        I think Dcorals has been here. Naples disappears for long stretches. Not sure if he knows this blog. Most people don’t feel Phish will blog here.

      • stangerx says:

        D-coral has been here. Haven’t heard from Naples anywhere in a while.

    • stangerx says:

      Invites only went out to the beta testing crew. Don’t think the blog address is any secret. This place is open to all…..’cept maybe Home I’m hoping.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      There were only invites to some as a test run the blog is public now and open to anyone. The first post gets moderated but that’s to stop the spammers otherwise you get slammed with spam bs all the time. I’m sure most people get enough viagra ads in their email already don’t need to see it here.
      He’s more than welcome here, we’d love to have him.

  86. Baphomet Tim says:

    Boulder, I’m not sure Mariota is going to be a big time QB. He’s very much a system QB right now which he could succeed in if with the right team like the Eagles. If I’m the Bucs I take Winston if they’re comfortable with his off the field, or Williams.

    • D says:

      Dont think Winsoton lasts in the NFL either, but more because of his lack of maturity and leadership. I dont think either of these get better with the publicity and hype that will be forced on him, as well as going to a team that may not have the right players around him. TB sounds like best option IMO with Evans there to play the Benjamin type WR role he was use to in college.

  87. finfanrob says:

    speaking of others what about M13

    there isnt enough 1luv on this site

  88. D says:

    BoulderPhinfan says:
    January 27, 2015 at 2:39 pm
    Yea I doubt the bucs would give up that pick for anything
    ———————————————————————-
    That may not be the pick they need to get. I hear TB is all about Jameis. So sounds to me like no 2 is there shot at Mariota, too bad no 2 also wants a QB lol. Maybe they would get lucky and Tenn be in love with a QB they could get in a later round,

    Senior Bowl may work in their favor there since the Titans coached on of the teams, and probably knows if one of them would suit him as a prospect, he also prepared for the other side, so knows where their strengths and weaknesses are. I think though that just tells him none of the ones he saw could give them anything better than they had in Mettenberger last year, so im thinking they stay put and take Mariota.

  89. son of a son of a shula says:

    I’ll tell ya, if I was a team who needed a QB I would be very interested in Hundley he might be better in the pros than Winston or Marriota.

    • D says:

      I actually somewhat agree with it but i would say it only applies to a few of the teams. For example Hundley would not be better for San Fran imo. I think Mariota is JUST what SF needs to make them competitive with Seattle. He is a lot like Wilson, Wilson is currently a more polished passer, but Mariota has better wheels. They play very similar, game management, good elusiveness, don’t make many mistakes. Other team like maybe Minnesota id like Hundley better because i think he would be better able to take a team at least partially on his shoulders and i think he would help get the most out of player like Crodarrell, i actually think Cordarrell and Hundley would be a very good pairing.

  90. Mike E. says:

    UK came in for a spot of tea, and then left for some crumpets, I guess.

  91. BoulderPhinfan says:

    D and Tim,
    I just don’t think Mariota will drop out of top 2. Either the bucs or the titans will take him. And to get to top 2 for the eagles would be a 2 1st rounders and maybe a 2nd rounder. Even that might not be enough.

    • Baphomet Tim says:

      Very possible. I was just stating rumors I keep hearing about the Eagles. I personally don’t care where they go, I wouldn’t want my team to have to decide between them.

  92. Baphomet Tim says:

    Well done, Son. 🙂

  93. ukfinfan says:

    Well, I typed a long post saying that I missed the house-warming (bad choice of wording for you nor-easters right now I know – hope you are all safe) and that you had done the place up real nice, etc etc, then when I tried to post I was told I had to log on (I had btw) and all my witty prose disappeared. So I did test 2 which had to be moderated so I thought FU ex-F Me Fers and went to get s/thing to eat. Anyway, y’all did a great job with this site and I’m on the Herd bandwagon of being monblogamous on the rare occasions I blogamous. And with that I gotta run. But I’ll be back
    Cheers
    UK
    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=picture+of+bottle+of+champagne&biw=1280&bih=899&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ydPHVO2mDI7saOmzgdAB&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&dpr=1#imgdii=_&imgrc=J1gIURKFjkCyzM%253A%3B8zGn5oyvoNd5rM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Ffinedininglovers.cdn.crosscast-system.com%252FBlogPost%252Fxl_3570_champagne-bottles-tp.jpg%3Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.finedininglovers.com%252Fstories%252Fchampagne-bottle-secrets%252F%3B935%3B514

  94. D says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 22 (PITT): Landon Collins, SS, Alabama (A)
    Round 2 Pick 15: Devin Funchess, WR, Michigan (A)
    Round 2 Pick 24 (PITT): Jalen Collins, CB, LSU (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 14: Justin Hardy, WR, East Carolina (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 23 (PITT): Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (B)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Gabe Wright, DT, Auburn (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 14: David Johnson, RB, Northern Iowa (A-)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Hayes Pullard, ILB, Southern California (B-)
    Round 7 Pick 15: Greg Mancz, C, Toledo (B)
    ————————————————————-
    kinda like how this turned out, even though i know people here cringe at the idea of an Alabama DB, but reasonable trade back mock, and really like the picks i got.

  95. ukfinfan says:

    stangerx says:
    January 27, 2015 at 1:36 pm
    Thought we all agreed the “no wankers” rule was in effect……lol

    …… PS I resemble that remark!

  96. D says:

    Baphomet Tim says:
    January 27, 2015 at 3:45 pm
    MIN likes Bridgewater though and he had a good rookie season.
    ———————————–
    yeah, i know they do and i know they wouldnt select him but that would be a sweet pairing imo. Hundley goes to someone like Rams or maybe the Jets, new coach new gm, possibly new QB.

  97. finfanrob says:

    Baphomet Tim says:
    January 27, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    He stopped by to say thanks for the invite. Not sure he’ll blog here much.

    why do you say that?

  98. finfanrob says:

    Baphomet Tim says:
    January 27, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    I think the last time there was a 2nd blog he said he had to be loyal to Walker. It’s just my guess.

    well that is just silly. i mean if you are being loyal to the first blog shouldnt he have never left the SS. but ok, his loss.

  99. Baphomet Tim says:

    UK, yes I like scaring GDP and D. LOL

  100. ckg4167 says:

    Do I need to set up a new account to change my name to drg?

  101. son of a son of a shula says:

    Glad you made it DRG good to see you

  102. finfanrob says:

    Baphomet Tim says:
    January 27, 2015 at 4:58 pm

    UK, yes I like scaring GDP and D. LOL

    you like scaring God Damn Pu_ _Y and Dick. you animal you.

  103. drg says:

    Got the name fixed, but doesn’t seem to want to let me choose an avatar?

  104. stangerx says:

    So just finished talking to my Dad. Called him yesterday to get ready for the storm.
    He proudly told me, “Not nearly as bad as what you were saying. The winds didn’t blow the trees down and we only got a foot.”

    He was throwing it in my face that I was a pathetically worried ninny……the little voice in my mind was going, “ain’t Florida a great place to live.”

  105. stangerx says:

    DRG — great to see you bud.

  106. Ken says:

    DRG:
    When you changed name I had to moderate again. You should be able to get your avatar thru my profile again. That’s how I found mine again.

  107. drg says:

    Son, Stanger, good to talk to you guys. Sorry I don’t have a long break, but wanted to get set up. Two blogs now? Good thing I’m used to the polygamous/polyblogous lifestyle already….

  108. Mike E. says:

    UK – Sorry I missed you twice now. I had to shovel the damn driveway. I’m exhausted, and I’m feeling old. Cheers UK!

  109. drg says:

    Ken what do I select for an avatar? Tried photo gallery and background but no luck. Thanks for the help.

    • Mike E. says:

      Go to gravatar.com, and then you can upload any picture you like once you login. Either from the internet, or or your own personal photos. You can do the waterskiing pic if you like.

  110. Mike E. says:

    Hey DRG – Cheers to you as well! You can share some of that spray above!

  111. stangerx says:

    Ken — how hard did you get hit?

  112. drg says:

    Thanks guys, will get it done and check in another time. Would be a shame to lose touch with each other. When the Fins finally win a championship I will be on here for 24 hours straight. No one else understands this unhealthy obsession!

  113. son of a son of a shula says:

    You can be as big and bad as you want but when a 2 year old hands you a toy phone – you answer it!

  114. D says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 3 Pick 24 (DET): Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (B)
    Round 3 Pick 25 (CAR): Kevin White, CB, TCU (B)
    Round 3 Pick 26 (BALT): Cameron Artis-Payne, RB, Auburn (A)
    Round 4 Pick 1 (TENN): Gabe Wright, DT, Auburn (B)
    Round 4 Pick 4 (JAX): Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (A)
    Round 4 Pick 7 (CHI): Andy Gallik, C, Boston College (A)
    Round 4 Pick 23 (DET): Jamison Crowder, WR, Duke (B+)
    Round 4 Pick 26 (BALT): Javorius Allen, RB, Southern California (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 27 (S.F.): Austin Shepherd, OT, Alabama (C+)
    Round 4 Pick 29 (IND): David Johnson, RB, Northern Iowa (D+)
    Round 5 Pick 2 (TENN): Austin Hill, WR, Arizona (D)
    Round 5 Pick 3 (JAX): Geneo Grissom, OLB, Oklahoma (A)
    Round 5 Pick 4 (OAK): Christian Covington, DT, Rice (C-)
    Round 5 Pick 5 (WASH): Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (C-)
    Round 5 Pick 6 (NYJ): Hayes Pullard, ILB, Southern California (D+)
    Round 5 Pick 7 (DEN): E.J. Bibbs, TE, Iowa State (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 8 (NYG): Cedric Reed, DE, Texas (B)
    Round 5 Pick 9 (STL): Jalston Fowler, FB, Alabama (A)
    Round 5 Pick 10 (ATL): Ibraheim Campbell, SS, Northwestern (B)
    Round 5 Pick 11 (CLE): Joey Mbu, DT, Houston (B-)
    Round 5 Pick 12 (N.O.): Shane Carden, QB, East Carolina (C+)
    Round 5 Pick 13 (MINN): Jordan Hicks, OLB, Texas (C+)
    Round 5 Pick 14: Justin Manton, K, Louisiana-Monroe (B-)
    Round 5 Pick 15 (S.F.): Charles Gaines, CB, Louisville (B-)
    Round 5 Pick 18 (K.C.): Clayton Geathers, SS, UCF (D+)
    Round 5 Pick 19 (BUF): Shaquille Mason, OG, Georgia Tech (C)
    Round 5 Pick 20 (PHI): Ben Heeney, ILB, Kansas (C-)
    Round 5 Pick 21 (CINN): Corey Crawford, DE, Clemson (C)
    Round 5 Pick 22 (DET): Deontay Greenberry, WR, Houston (C-)
    Round 5 Pick 23 (ARI): Cam Thomas, CB, Western Kentucky (D-)
    Round 5 Pick 24 (PITT): Corey Robinson, OT, South Carolina (D-)
    Round 5 Pick 26 (T.B.): Stefon Diggs, WR, Maryland (C+)
    Round 5 Pick 27 (DAL): Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami (Fla.) (B-)
    Round 5 Pick 28 (DEN): Damarious Randall, FS, Arizona State (B-)
    Round 5 Pick 29 (IND): Nick Boyle, TE, Delaware (C-)
    Round 6 Pick 1 (TENN): B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (B+)
    Round 6 Pick 4 (JAX): Tyler Varga, FB, Yale (A-)
    Round 6 Pick 6 (WASH): Kyle Brindza, K, Notre Dame (C)
    Round 6 Pick 9 (ATL): Antwan Goodley, WR, Baylor (D)
    Round 6 Pick 12 (MINN): Deshazor Everett, CB, Texas A&M (D)
    Round 6 Pick 13 (CLE): DaVaris Daniels, WR, Notre Dame (E)
    Round 6 Pick 14 (S.F.): J.R. Tavai, OLB, Southern California (E)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Dominique Brown, RB, Louisville (C+)
    Round 6 Pick 16 (S.D.): Eric Rowe, CB, Utah (A-)
    Round 6 Pick 17 (K.C.): Josh Robinson, RB, Mississippi St. (D)
    Round 6 Pick 18 (BUF): Lorenzo Doss, CB, Tulane (A)
    Round 6 Pick 20 (PHI): Conner Neighbors, FB, LSU (D-)
    Round 6 Pick 21 (CINN): Matt Jones, RB, Florida (A)
    Round 6 Pick 22 (ARI): Tyrus Thompson, OT, Oklahoma (D-)
    Round 6 Pick 25 (CAR): Wes Saxton, TE, South Alabama (D)
    Round 6 Pick 26 (CLE): Kyle Christy, P, Florida (C-)
    Round 6 Pick 28 (BALT): Karlos Williams, RB, Florida State (C)
    Round 6 Pick 29 (IND): Derrick Malone Jr., OLB, Oregon (D-)
    Round 6 Pick 32 (IND): Adam Shead, OG, Oklahoma (D-)
    Round 7 Pick 1 (T.B.): Tyeler Davison, DT, Fresno State (D)
    Round 7 Pick 3 (JAX): James Castleman, DT, Oklahoma State (D-)
    Round 7 Pick 4 (OAK): Quandre Diggs, CB, Texas (C+)
    Round 7 Pick 5 (WASH): Terrance Magee, RB, LSU (B)
    Round 7 Pick 6 (NYJ): Blake Bell, TE, Oklahoma (D-)
    Round 7 Pick 8 (ATL): Chucky Hunter, DT, TCU (E)
    Round 7 Pick 10 (STL): Damian Swann, CB, Georgia (E)
    Round 7 Pick 11 (MINN): Imoan Claiborne, CB, Northwestern State (D-)
    Round 7 Pick 12 (CLE): Derrick Lott, DT, Chattanooga (D-)
    Round 7 Pick 13 (N.O.): Greg Mancz, C, Toledo (D)
    Round 7 Pick 14 (BALT): Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon State (A-)
    Round 7 Pick 15: Trey DePriest, ILB, Alabama (E)
    Round 7 Pick 16 (K.C.): Brandon Vitabile, C, Northwestern (E)
    Round 7 Pick 20 (PHI): Bryce Hager, ILB, Baylor (D)
    Round 7 Pick 21 (CINN): James Sample, SS, Louisville (C-)
    Round 7 Pick 22 (PITT): Malcolm Brown, RB, Texas (C+)
    Round 7 Pick 24 (ARI): Nick Marshall, CB, Auburn (D-)
    Round 7 Pick 25 (CAR): Rannell Hall, WR, UCF (E)
    Round 7 Pick 28 (IND): Ben Beckwith, OG, Mississippi State (E)
    Round 7 Pick 32 (SEA): Tre McBride, WR, William & Mary (A)
    ————————————————————————————
    Eventually they said “yeah i know we have a couple more days of the draft planned guys, but the Dolphins own all the rest of the picks so i guess Dolphins just go pick the rest of the guys ya want and then tell the rest of the teams when they can contact people for UDFA”

  115. Mike E. says:

    LOL D! I did my first draft today. I took Ogbuehi in the 3rd as well. I got a B+ I forgot which pick it was, but I got a C+ on one, that brought it down.

    • D says:

      Yeah, his stock has really dropped on that site, not sure in general but he use to be considered a for sure top 10 guy, next in the line of past three drafts where a TA&M OT was going to be very high first rounder, but he is dropping like a rock.

  116. naplesfan2010 says:

    I am happily amazed at all the talent that will be available this year at our round one spot.
    I am torn between risky-man Green-Beckham or one of the other 3 tall WRs who will still be there or going with a DT like Eddie Goldman or Malcolm Brown or even a reach like Jordan Philips or do we shoot for the Super Bowl with Melvin Gordon?

    • D says:

      WR’s is one of the deepest pools i have seen in a while, first round talent deep into the second, second round talent into the 4th. Very very deep draft. RB’s are too, top talent into the third, solid prospects all the way into the 6th or so (i don’t see any worth a first though, even Gordon). DT’s TE’s QB’s all really really shallow draft. Couple DT are starting to show some elite skills and combine will probably help some more rise up, but for most part, DT starting talent is very limited, and ones you can realistically expect to be able to even rotate in first year is also very limited. OL talent isn’t stand out either. I agree with you about the play-making talent but this draft is kinda weird in i think we will have to have a really strong strategy towards the positions we pick and the values we have on people to get through this draft and get as many contributors as we can. Hickey has his work cut out for him.

  117. The Flying Pig says:

    Lol@ D 53 man draft

  118. son of a son of a shula says:

    Welcome Naples glad you made it here

  119. Mike E. says:

    Hey Naples! I think we’ll have a lot of choices at #14, a lot of good ones!

    • D says:

      I do feel really confident in the 14 pick having someone or some option there. I think we are going to get trade offers and i think this is a year we could really use a a trade back unless we just have something special fall in our laps. I couldnt trade back if Parker falls to us, or White. Outsie of those guys id take my chances of trading back, have a fallback option and a second draft strategy lined up if we hd to switch gears but overall i think 14 is a pretty sweet place to be this year.

  120. son of a son of a shula says:

    I torn at who I’d like at 14,
    What do you think of Shaq Thompson at 14 Naples?

  121. stangerx says:

    You know I want all you guys to move to Florida. Have made the reasons clear, but one thing I forgot to add is when I say FL I mean East Coast of Fl. The West coast is for Mid-Westerners and hicks…..shiot………Nice to see you Naples. 🙂

  122. naplesfan2010 says:

    yeh i found you guys … you can run but you can’t hide.

  123. Baphomet Tim says:

    That draft is silly.

  124. naplesfan2010 says:

    greetings Mike E and Son and FU Stangboy

  125. naplesfan2010 says:

    Son I know Shaq is a good player, but I think we got enough at OLB/DE.
    I think we need a MLB type ILB way more but Benardrick McKinney did not look good against GTech but then who does?
    He still might be the guy or Perryman if he would only fall to us in the 2nd.

    • D says:

      McKinney is still the best ILB, Perryman though proved he will also be a good option, and would fit a draft strategy for me if i were GM. He would definately be my 2nd round option for ILB if i took a WR with the first pick. Im not wanting to venture much deeper than 3rd round for an ILB selection, and hope Hickey is in pretty much same mindset.

  126. naplesfan2010 says:

    This new blog is the story of my life ya know? all the cool guys leave the room soon as I come in and get a beer … now i gotta stalk y’all onto the back porch where the smokes smell funny right after i said i don’t smoke.

  127. D says:

    You guys should all appreciate the work and patience that draft took…..longest first pick draft EVAH!

  128. naplesfan2010 says:

    ILB is not deep at all and there is not a sure thing QB in the whole draft. I also don’t like any of the TEs at all. I’d like to grab Connor Halliday in the 7th if he is still there as i think he would make a great Earl Morrall type career backup.

    • D says:

      QB’s you are right, i believe there are several who will be decent backups in the NFL but nothing more. Even Bridge who i really like, and think e has a lot of tools to work with, i just dont know that he can make that jump.

  129. son of a son of a shula says:

    I like Gurley if we go RB early, Gordon doesn’t really do it for me. Go big or go home.

    • D says:

      When you get a comparison to Marshawn Lynch, thats a good thing,but he does have a ton of wear on the tires, and he has had an injury each of the past 3 seasons. That does concern me but not enough to pass on him if the draft value is there. Id be really tempted to pull the trigger at r2p14, and if we had a trade back second 2nd id be all over it with that one.

      RB is one of the big reason for me on the trade back is the mocks i do i know aren’t how its going to go down in the real one, and a lot of the value on this guy or that guy are off by a good bit, but what it does kinda let ya see if how flexible you can be with your draft strategies and how easy/hard it will be to fill the holes on your team given the restrictions of X number of picks.

      What i keep finding is when i force myself to a no trade draft, i get good picks but i leave some holes filled with players i don’t think there are guarantees will be able to start right off. Hold where we really could use a guy who will if anything compete to start. Every time i do a trade back, im able to get people i feel get us to that place. This doesn’t tell me trades will be possible or which trades we would have a shot at, but does tell me trading back would be a very strong consideration at 14. RB is one of the positions i would like to use a higher pick for, but when i dont trade back im always looking at a guy who fills one of our other holds better and i wind up seeing RB as luxury i wait on until a later round. Trade back lets us be more aggressive there..

  130. naplesfan2010 says:

    There are other RBs I am interested in as complements to Miller. I think we need one of those human bowling ball types that are so short the DL loses them until they pop out 8 yds downfield.

  131. The Flying Pig says:

    Welcome to the blog Naples
    Good to see you

    I don’t care much got Goldman
    But I guess there is a chance Danny Shelton falls to 14
    I like the big WRs
    We can get a very good player at 14
    We need to make a good pick

  132. naplesfan2010 says:

    I like Mike Davis and Terrance McGee both at 5’9 and 220. very hard to tackle

  133. Mike E. says:

    Naples – Sorry man – It was dinner time.

  134. olddolphan says:

    GOOD EVENING FELLOW FIN FANS; SEE HERDFAN got my avi hooked up to my name; NEAT-O!!!
    HERD: Of course you have my permission to run any of the episodes from “ABSOLUTE PERFECTION” or “FOLLOWING PERFECTION.” —I’m sure there are several members of the new site who have NOT seen some of them and might enjoy reading the accounts of an Old Dolfan who was there!!

  135. Mike E. says:

    Hey OD! Pleasure to have you here!

    • olddolphan says:

      Hi, Mike E!! – – At my age, it’s a pleasure to be ANYWHERE!! –Seriously, I went to a convention in central Georgia last week and did not return until Sunday night. – – The show was a bit tiring because my better half could not go with me AND the show was busier than expected due to the recent run-up of gold from $1193 Jan. 1 to around $1300 the first day of the show. Not surprisingly, the owners of counterfeit gold coins were out in force. While others just wanted their genuine coins certified, which is what my company is all about.

      Seems like every time I’m away for several days the shit hits the fan on Dolphin blogs!!—Sure is great to be a small part of this one. –HOPE every Dolfan in the northeast is safe and sound. –In Tampa, we had a mostly sunny day with highs near 70. –But I DID experience 1 day in Georgia when there was a touch of ice on the windshields when I got up in the morning. –BOY, you should see those rednecks driving on the ice!!

      FINALLY, GREAT JOB TO DR. BRUCE BANNER!! – – KEN, I agree with everything you say, especially concerning Ross’s brain dead act of hiring the man who destroyed the Jets’ franchise, none other than Tannenbaum himself. –A local Dolfan here in Tampa said “It would have been less damaging if Ross had rehired Ireland!!

  136. naplesfan2010 says:

    CBS says:
    Goldman carries his 320 pounds well, sporting broad shoulders, a big bubble and thick limbs. He’s quick off the snap, shooting his hands into the chest of opponents and showing good upper-body strength to extend and control.

    Goldman plays with his knees bent and does a nice job of anchoring at the line of scrimmage, rarely getting pushed back. Good balance to keep his feet while stringing plays out wide. Long and strong enough to set the edge as a defensive end. He has the leg drive to bull rush interior linemen deep into the pocket and can surprise quarterbacks with his quickness to close.

    Locates the ball quickly and does a nice job of latching onto ballcarriers as they attempt to run by, showing the reach and strength to pull them down or pop the ball out (Clemson). Scheme and position diverse. Just scratching the surface of his potential.

  137. Mike E. says:

    OD – You’re as big a part of this blog as anyone else that comes here. Seriously!

    • olddolphan says:

      YOU ARE TOO KIND, Mike!! – – Hope you and your family are OK. –And hoping you and family might make it to Sun Baked Stadium for this year’s get-together!!

  138. dbolt48 says:

    GDP,
    If you ever complain about my trade down scenarios again…….LMFAO

  139. Ken says:

    What’s up FUers? Great to see DRG, UK and Naples on here.

  140. Ken says:

    I have to give props to Jahn about posting that article on deflate gate and the statistical improbability of the Pats fumble rate. Great article.

  141. Ken says:

    Stanger:
    We got about 18″ of snow here in my part of the state. It was a lot but it was supposed to be worse so I can’t complain.

  142. olddolphan says:

    TWO F.Y.I’s for this site. #1) Miss Gigi called me at home on my birthday and informed me about her pending move to California. Congratulated her on finding a REAL MAN who is worth moving from the east coast to the west coast. Seems like her new job is a nice step up for her, too –Guessing we’ll continue to hear from her on this site.

    #2) Your’s truly is now the President of Florida United Numismatists (A.K.A. “FUN”). –I held this position in 1989 and 1990. –Never thought I’d return to the top job, especially after a 25 year run as a board member. BUT, here I am, the past and present PRESIDENT OF FUN! –We put on the world’s largest coin convention which, this year, was put on at the Orange County Convention Center on International Drive in Orlando Jan. 7-12. –Next January, our largest show ever will take place early January in the Tampa Convention Center in downtown Tampa, just a few blocks from Amalie Arena, the home of the NHL’s Lightning. –SO-O-O, in addition to my job, I’ve got PLENTY TO KEEP ME BUSY!!

  143. professor lou says:

    I like Stephone Anthony at MLB. We shore up the d-line with a better DT to stop the run and our LB’s become better.
    Then we should be able to come away with two receivers out of the following group:
    Strong
    Hardy
    Lockett
    Montgomery
    Perriman
    Dorsett
    Mayle
    McBride
    and if we could land one of the better guards like Cann or Tomlinson we’re looking good.
    Then, If we can get someone like David Johnson or Cameron Stingily at the rb position and top it off with Quandre Diggs to replace Jimmy Makes Plays we’re looking good.
    Taylor Kelly to replace Matt Moore and that’s it. Not asking for much.

  144. son of a son of a shula says:

    Enjoy your Presidency OD it sounds like FUN, lol.
    Glad you made it here and we’re looking forward to seeing more of Absolute Perfection again tomorrow.

  145. son of a son of a shula says:

  146. olddolphan says:

    MRS. OD wants me to watch a TV show with her, so I’m out for this evening. –It was refreshingly PLEASANT!! –Will talk to you wonderful Dolfans tomorrow. PEACE TO ALL OF YOU!

  147. Mike E. says:

    Congratulations OD! Good for you man!

  148. getterdone says:

    Dbolt, after seeing D as GM, I think you’re doing a fine job….Hopefully he blew up first-pick’s servers and we are all spared till April the 1st …LOL

  149. Mike E. says:

    He does kinda remind me of Ricky Bobby

  150. Ken says:

    If D were our GM they would have to re-structure the rookie salary cap.

  151. Mike E. says:

    I’ll be back later – Going to chill with my wife for a while

  152. Ken says:

    I just want the SB to come and go so we can get to talking about FA and the draft. I hate all the SB hype on the radio now.

  153. getterdone says:

    Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
    I’ve become obsessed with finding out how quarterbacks like their balls. True story.
    ________________
    Geez, we already all knew he knows how Garrard likes them handled. 😯

  154. Ken says:

    Alright I need to call it a night. I will be busy at work tomorrow for sure. Peace to you all.

  155. getterdone says:

    I see the Colts are going ahead and signing Chris Carter’s kid Duron Duron…lol

    • jetsssuck says:

      chris carters son played HS football at St.Thomas Aquinas. Chris Carter himself was the receivers coach while he was there. I wonder why this kid can’t stay out of trouble without his dad as coach.

      • getterdone says:

        Guess he feels that who his dad is makes him so privileged that he doesn’t put in the work that other less fortunate athletes do…IMO.

  156. wyoming85 says:

    D
    That was truly impressive my man!
    I tip my hat to you! 😉

  157. marinofan13 says:

    I don’t feel welcomed here.

  158. wyoming85 says:

    Your score is: 4974 (GRADE: A-)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 14: Kevin White, WR, West Virginia (A)
    Round 2 Pick 15: Derron Smith, FS, Fresno State (B)
    Round 3 Pick 14: Ramik Wilson, ILB, Georgia (B+)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Robert Myers, OG, Tennessee State (B+)
    Round 5 Pick 14: Louis Trinca-Pasat, DT, Iowa (A)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Terrance Magee, RB, LSU (A-)
    Round 7 Pick 15: Cam Thomas, CB, Western Kentucky (A)

  159. jetsssuck says:

    how about hassan whiteside from Miami Heat and former Marshall Herd alumni. He’s the guy who had 12 blocked shots in 23 minutes played. He couldn’t get a workout with any nba teams but keep practicing. He looks like he may be a keeper

    • The Flying Pig says:

      He looks to be the real deal
      Spolstra said sometimes big men take time to develop
      And that seems to be the Case with him

      Now the Heat have a young shit blocker at their disposal
      Most nba teams don’t have that luxury

    • jetsssuck says:

      dude had a off game where he scored only 16 points along with 16 rebounds. If he continues to shine Spolstra will have to give him more minutes. Big Line up with Bosh, bird man, and whiteside?

      • The Flying Pig says:

        With a front line like that they might be able to make waves in the post season
        I love what the Heat are doing these days

  160. Mike E. says:

    M – You were properly welcomed last night. Not sure what gives you that impression.

  161. getterdone says:

    MF13, don’t say that…you’re joking right? Come back and kick it here some with us all. I like your insight, my brother from a different mother!
    Hope you reconsider.

  162. Mike E. says:

    Wyo
    Just curious, mostly because I did a few drafts today. Do you take players because you think they’re good fits for our team, or because the site values them highly, and therefore you will get a good grade?

    • wyoming85 says:

      I use there best players available most of the time
      But I have looked into most of them already!
      If you click there name it gives you links to their NFL.com profile & videos

      • Mike E. says:

        I know. I did plenty last year. I just find myself taking players I know will gave a good grade, even if sometimes it’s a double up on a particular position, or even a position we don’t really need, which kind of makes the game unrealistic. It would be great if it truly gave you recognition points for not only filling needs, but filling them with the BPA. I guess that’s impossible, it would have to be a very advanced program.

      • D says:

        Well they woukd also have to get tge team needs right. Most everyone feels out team needs are wr ilb and s, the site has us down as ot cb and olb. I woukda accdpted dt as one of the top three even though I disagree but the positions tgey listed are way lower

  163. wyoming85 says:

    Mike E
    I’m not always to serious about it!
    I tried to have an all Collins draft yesterday! 😉

    Landon Collins, SS, Alabama
    La’el Collins, OT, LSU
    Jalen Collins, CB, LSU

  164. wyoming85 says:

    Later Haters!

  165. Mike E. says:

    Later Wyo! LMAO @ the All Collins draft!

  166. professor lou says:

    First two sleepers of draft:
    At WR: Jarrod West, Syracuse
    AT RB: Cameron Stingily, NIU

  167. Mike E. says:

    D – I agree. DT, ILB, WR, S and CB as well as either a G or T seem to be our needs. You can even add RB to that list, like a bruising RB to complement MillerTime

  168. getterdone says:

    So if/when Matt Moore leaves to try and be a starter somewhere…I wonder what Hickey’s plan is…we are already Cap strung for now, and need what we will have to sign bigger needs elsewhere. instead of tying up too much money in a FA vet backup QB.
    Surely MBT isn’t the answer….ya also hate to spend a draft pick on a QB unless you pick up extra picks.
    As I’ve mentioned before, I really am intrigued by Connor Halliday, he will likely go undrafted after that bad ankle break towards the last game this year, so he could be a UDFA steal.
    We could pick up some comp picks too after we lose some guys in FA as well.

    Just random thoughts that keep bugging me.

    Go Hickey! http://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/heureux/clap2.gif

  169. Mike E. says:

    I don’t think we’ll look for a QB in the draft to be our backup, we’ll have to sign a vet if/when Moore leaves.

  170. Mike E. says:

    What do you guys think of Gerod Holliman for us?

  171. son of a son of a shula says:

    M, Of course you don’t feel welcome here because the first thing you said was, ‘I don’t feel welcome here” before anyone could even welcome you here. I don’t know what would give you that impression, when you feel differently try again.

  172. getterdone says:

    Son, I rather give Blaine Gabbert a chance with Lazor than I would Jake Hurt Locker.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Riding the bench is the best way to keep locker healthy. Should he need to play we wouldn’t lose a beat in the QB running game. Blaine looks to me like he’s scared out there. Never been a fan.

      • getterdone says:

        Good point….hope Tanny never gets hurt…he sooo deserves a stout OL for once in his career….lol

  173. professor lou says:

    Piggy,
    I got one more. Sleeper
    At LB; for Herd, Jermaine Holmes, LB, Marshall

  174. Mike E. says:

    Your score is: 4728 (GRADE: B+)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 14: Danny Shelton, DT, Washington (A)
    Round 2 Pick 15: Denzel Perryman, ILB, Miami (Fla.) (B)
    Round 3 Pick 14: T.J. Yeldon, RB, Alabama (A)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (A)
    Round 5 Pick 14: Charles Gaines, CB, Louisville (A)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (B)
    Round 7 Pick 15: Derrick Malone Jr., OLB, Oregon (B+)

  175. getterdone says:

    Lou, I think S Durrell Eskridge could be a sleeper for us…I like his length, his speed, and he can tackle pretty well. Coyle should coach him up good…he’d be an upgrade I think over the short poor tackling Jimmy Wilson and might still be on the board by the 5th rd.

  176. professor lou says:

    What I like about Shepherd and Amos is they both have good play recognition skills which makes their reaction time to the play fast and it gets them to the ball faster than other guys who take longer. Shepherd is also very good at deep coverage and plays the deep ball very well, staying with the receiver and turning when the ball gets there to make the play.
    On quick screens he’s fast to react to the line and make a quick tackle.
    Amos is a hammer. I love the way the guy hits and he tackles with his arms so a player can’t get away.

  177. professor lou says:

    Jacob Hagen, S, Liberty. If they were scouting Aikens there they will probably have the inside info on this kid. Ball Hawk. Only thing is his speed. Hits like a hammer but he’s another one of those guys with football recognition skills that gets him to the play faster. So, he plays faster than his speed suggests. Priority UDFA..

  178. professor lou says:

    Terrell Pinson, S, LA Tech

  179. wyoming85 says:

    Mike E. says:

    January 27, 2015 at 10:51 pm

    What do you guys think of Gerod Holliman for us?
    😉
    His report card says great ball skills not very interested in tackling anyone?

    I watched his bowl game again the other night and he hurt himself stuffing the runner at the line!

    Overall I like him

    • dbolt48 says:

      Saw tackle someone in his bowl game and had to go to the sideline because he hurt himself. Ballhawk w/ zero tackle prowess.

  180. wyoming85 says:

    Lou
    I think it was Brian and I talking about Amos
    Love his skills but picks up WAY to many stupid fouls!

  181. wyoming85 says:

    Eskridge didn’t look very good in the 2 games I watched of his!
    Maybe it was just his off days?

  182. ditmcodave says:

    Hey guys, sad to see what happened on the other blog. This site looks really nice so far. Thanks for the invite or keeping it public or however that shit works.

    F the cheating patriots. Only ones defending them now are their fans. Kind of funny.

  183. Ken says:

    New post up

  184. getterdone says:

    Most of these guys coming out early are definitely gonna be raw.

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