By: Randy Campbell (Old Dolfan)
GAME #5: OCT. 15, 1972 – SAN DIEGO at MIAMI
The Chargers franchise was the brain child of hotel heir Barron Hilton, the team’s original owner and son of Hilton Hotels founder Conrad Hilton, one of the richest men in the World. In 1959 Hilton made the decision to place his team in the potentially lucrative Los Angeles market. He signed former L. A. Rams head coach Sid Gillman, an offensive minded innovator and future Hall of Famer, to be his head coach. Star players for the inaugural 1960 AFL season included quarterback Jack Kemp (from tiny Occidental College) and future Hall of Fame offensive tackle Ron Mix, from USC. Unfortunately, only 17,724 persons paid to see the opening game against Dallas in the mammoth Los Angeles Coliseum (a game the Chargers won 21-20). A few months later, when the Chargers clinched the AFC Western Division crown with a 41-33 win over the Denver Broncos, only 9,928 souls were present. On January 1, 1961, the Chargers lost the very first AFL Champioship Game to George Blanda’s Houston Oilers 24-16. Soon after the title game, Barron Hilton announced his team was leaving Los Angeles and moving to tiny Balboa Stadium in San Diego. Famous San Diego sportswriter Jack Murphy convinced Hilton to make this move. (When San Diego eventually built a new modern football stadium, they named it “Jack Murphy Stadium” in the sportwriter’s honor.) A year later, the Chargers hosted the Oilers in the second AFL Championship Game. 29,000 fans in Balboa Stadium left disappointed as, once again, the Oilers prevailed, this time by a 10-3 score. After a poor 1962 season, the Chargers rebounded in 1963 with new quarterback Tobin Rote. A 58-20 blowout win over Denver put San Diego in their third AFL title game in January of 1964. Halfback Keith Lincoln recorded 349 yards of total offense pacing the Chargers to a 51-10 pounding of the Boston Patriots in the AFL Championship Game played in front of 30,000 delirious fans at Balboa Stadium. That game produced the City of San Diego’s LAST professional sports title in any major sport!
In 1970 and 1971 the Chargers struggled. The 1970 team went 5-6-3; the 1971 squad was 6-8. By ’72, San Diego boasted star players like future 
Hall of Famer David “Deacon” Jones, quarterback John Hadl and running back Mike Garrett. Charger fans hoped 1972 would see their team return to the positive side of the ledger. After losing their opener to the ’49ers, San Diego defeated Denver 37-14, tied the Raiders 17-17 and beat the Colts 23-20. Nobody expected an easy win for the Dolphins. But absolutely NO ONE could foresee the catastrophic injury that would impact Miami the day they played the Chargers in the historic Orange Bowl. Fourteen plays into the game, Bob Griese rolled out to his left, searching for an open receiver. Jim Kiick broke free as Griese’s pass headed downfield. Most eyes followed the ball. Behind the play, “Deacon” Jones and Ron East simultaneously crushed Griese. “I didn’t need to see the 
stretcher to know I was going out,” said the Dolphin’s All-Pro quarterback. The diagnosis was a dislocated right ankle and a broken bone in the same ankle. GRIESE WAS DONE for the rest of the regular season, at a minimum!One TV network commentator said, “Well there goes the Perfect Season now! There’s no way Miami goes undefeated without Bob Griese!”
Back-up quarterback Earl Morrall trotted onto the field. Morrall and Don Shula had been through this before. Back in 1968, Shula chose Morrall to replace the injured John Unitas as the Colts starting quarterback. All Morrall did was win the NFL’s Most Valuable Player award as he guided Baltimore to a date with destiny in Super Bowl III versus the underdog Jets.
But this situation was different. From 1969 through early 1972 Morrall played sparingly. In April of ’72, Morrall was released by Baltimore. Shula picked-up Morrall for the $125 waiver wire price in one of the greatest bargains in NFL history!Could the 38 year old crew cut Morrall shake-off the rust and still produce at the highest level? On his first drive Morrall guided Miami into San Diego territory. Yepremian’s 37-yard field goal gave the ‘Fins a 3-0 lead. San Diego’s Dennis Partee countered with a field goal, tying the game 3-3.
Early in the second quarter safety Dick Anderson grabbed a fumble by the Charger’s Mike Garrett and scampered 35 yards for the go-ahead touchdown. Later in the quarter, fifth defensive back Lloyd Mumphord intercepted a John Hadl pass, returning it to the San Diego 34. Two Larry 
Csonka runs produced 14 yards. After a short run by Jim Kiick, Morrall threw a perfect pass to reliable Howard Twilley, good for an 18-yard touchdown. It was 17-3 Miami at halftime. Shula warned his players NOT to ease-off the gas pedal in the second half. “We’ve got a point to prove and we’re going to prove it,” said the Don of Miami. Methodically, Earl Morrall took the Dolphins on a 65-yard touchdown drive to start the third quarter. A 23-yard bullseye to Twilley got Miami into San Diego territory. The drive concluded when Morrall arched a gorgeous 19-yard touchdown strike to Paul Warfield. Yepremian’s PAT gave the inspired Dolphins an insurmountable 24-3 lead. A late fourth quarter Charger’s score made the final 24-10, Miami. But the game was not that close. On the day, Miami’s “No Name Defense” limited Hadl to just 110 yards passing. It would be his lowest yardage total for any game the entire season! More importantly, Earl Morrall had steadied the ship. His near-perfect 8 for 10 passing effort was good for two touchdowns and no interceptions. He walked off the Orange Bowl field with the confident smile of a winner.
Appreciative Dolphin fans, and Dolphin players, roared their approval as Earl Morrall strode into the Dolphins’ locker room, his arms raised in victory! Next up: a date with the Buffalo Bills in what would prove to be the most bizarre game of the season.
Finsmob Unleashed 
D,
At this point, the Bills might as well sign Matt Moore and make it the AFC East outcasts coming to get revenge on the Fins, Patriots, Jets LOL.
Bite your tongue. I can see them doing that. I think most likely they sign Hoyer. Still the achilles heel in their O. Rex loads up on D and running backs but like the old Stej days he lacks the QB.
Jahn,
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/constant-compensation-how-do-the-ravens-always-have-so-many-draft-picks/
Thanks bro. Much appreciated.
Tim,
lol, don’t get me started
OMG, and here I thought the IRS & NSA was the biggest waste and use of digital space on the web. SMH
Ken,
I think McCoy is pretty special and he’ll definitely see a ton of carries. Buffalo will play Rex ball. Run the ball 60% of the time, play field position, and try to win the game with their defense. They will play a ton of close games and might squeak into the playoffs where they could be dangerous.
I don’t like giving up a really good young LB on a rookie deal for a declining RB with a lot of miles on him though. Think they could have saved Kiko and just spent the money in FA. McCoy may have even been a cap casualty had the trade not gone down.
That is how I see it as well. If the Bills had a QB they would be dangerous. As it is they will be in the playoff hunt imo.
Hold da phones!!!
ESPN Ravens reporter Jamison Hensley predicts Baltimore will release LE Haloti Ngata.
GM Ozzie Newsome has been trying to work on a new deal for Ngata in order to lower his $16 million cap hit, but nothing has materialized to this point. Ngata is refusing to kick money down the road after he had a strong season. The 31-year-old would be highly sought after if he hit the open market. Hensley mentions the Colts as a possible landing spot, reuniting Ngata with coach Chuck Pagano.
That would be nice!
LOL, well you know after seeing the Patriots just completely abuse that Colts D line in the playoffs, Pagano is praying that Ngata will be available.
Jahn,
Take your pic on the various Google search results 😛
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000336624/article/baltimore-ravens-win-big-in-compensatory-lottery
http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2014/3/26/5547220/how-ozzie-became-the-gold-standard-in-compensatory-picks
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/constant-compensation-how-do-the-ravens-always-have-so-many-draft-picks/
Ken, the Bills now have a QB….we’ll be facing Cassel twice a year now. He could be the best that Rex has really ever had.
Bills acquired QB Matt Cassel and a 2015 sixth-round pick from the Vikings in exchange for a 2015 fifth-round pick and 2016 seventh-round pick.
After swinging a blockbuster deal for LeSean McCoy on Tuesday, GM Doug Whaley is back at it again Wednesday. After losing out to the Browns for Josh McCown, the Bills turned their attention to the trade market. It’s basically a salary dump by the Vikings, who save $4.75 million against the cap and further clear the quarterback room for Teddy Bridgewater. Cassel, 33 in May, appeared in 12 games (nine starts) for Minnesota the past two seasons, composing a 4-5 record with a 14:13 TD:INT ratio and 6.9 YPA average. He’s nothing more than a game manager who will compete with E.J. Manuel for the starting job.
I think he had Brett Favre for one pretty good season. But I agree. Bills are a team to be reckoned with, I just don’t think the reason has anything to do with that trade for McCoy.
Jahn,
True on McCoy’s drop off (age?) but he also went over 300 carries in a season for the first time in 2013 and 300 seems to be the trigger in the fantasy world for “following year drop off in production looming”. And drop off in efficiency happened in 2014 just as conventional wisdom predicted. As to splits with Sproles, McCoy’s carried it 314 times in 2013 and 312 times in 2014 so not much there but his receiving attempts were cut almost in half (targeted 65+ times between the 2010-13 seasons in pass game but only 37 times last season).
All the math bodes poorly for him. Show me a RB at that age with that stark of a dropoff year over year (1 yard less per carry, 300 less yards on the same amount of carries, Receiving reps cut in half while receiving stats drop 75% or more, 11 TDs turns into 5)
that rebounded from that?
Look, coaches don’t trade probowl feature backs for LBs coming off an injury. McCoy isn’t what he was and won’t ever be. He’ll have a good game here and there, but if they run him like Rex Ryan likes to run runningbacks, he’s going to have 400 carries and 1200 yards to show for it next season, and he’s never going to return to what he’s most remembered for.
GDP,
Am I the only one feeling that creepy feeling that Cassel is serving as a spy for the Patriots? lol.
Guys, whoever approves moderated messages, please approve the one I posted showing 3 hyperlinks for Jahn, lol.
Jahn,
The short version of what DRG posted.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000336624/article/baltimore-ravens-win-big-in-compensatory-lottery
I also don’t get the McCoy is old and broken down. He will be 27 next season.
It’s more about reps than age. He’ll be in his 7th NFL season next year. I really don’t need to point out age. But he isn’t getting traded for an LB coming off an injury if he is what he once was.
Jahn,
As for actual guarantees on McCoy/Watt contracts, it makes sense when you think about the deals that Ngata & Wilfork (on his previous rich contract) got which were 25-27 mill in guaranteed money. That’s what got me thinking “how the hell do you go from 25-27 mill to 51 mill in guarntees?”. The 30-35 mill appears to make more sense in progression of highest paid.
Bills get Matt Cassel. I feel better already. Should have signed McCown.
Bears should have been calling McCown from day 1 after he was cut. Too bad they will just burden themselves with Culter, his drama, and his salary.
They can’t move on from Cutler. No matter what. They HAVE to suffer through this. They signed the contract. It was a mistake…obviously, but they are saddled with it now.
Ken,
I don’t think much will change with the Bills year over year HOWEVER, it’s always scary to think what that defense can do with a coach like Rex. If they were that motivated without a coach that really gets you excited, wonder how cocky they will really get under Ryan :/.
Good thing their offense still blows 🙂
If they had a legit QB their offense would be scary. Lots of good skill players with Watkins, Woods and McCoy.
Takes a legit scheme too. I know you think McCoy is a worldbeater, but replace that name with Spiller/Jackson and they’re still loaded with good skill players.
I think they’re going to be a challenge this year just like they always are, but I think it’s because Ryan will make their defense more formidable, and either Cassel OR McCown will give them better QB play than they had last season.
Out to late lunch, take care!
Ngata has his offseason home here in Utah. My dad lives just up the street. Last time they spoke he said he was planning on retiring at 32. Maybe things change, but I don’t know if he’s worth pursuing at this stage.
Should point out that I am a BIG supporter of getting Ngata since I would have an in to get field passes and player seats for at least one game/year.
Interesting stat I just read:
19 players had 250 touches last season and McCoy had the fewest yards/touch of any of them. Factor the great system he was playing in plus his salary and it looks like a smart move by Philly.
Stark. The other single stat that stands out most to me, 11 TDs turns into 5TDs while the Total touches were only marginally less.
With RBs I don’t think it’s necessarily about age, but touches. McCoy will be in his 7th season because he entered the league young. Wear and tear is the key.
1 minute earns me one beer..from you. 🙂
Take this instead. LOL
You’ve got to stop doing that LOL…you still owe me a beer.
Ken
I swear to you, I watched almost every Eagles game in parts. McCoy looked like a shell of what he was. There were times when Polk looked more explosive. He got 312 carries, so he better get 1300 yards. If Lamar miller had 312 carries, he’d have 1611 yards going by his YPC. McCoy was NOT the same player last year, and he was healthy. I can’t explain why, but all I can say is, I wouldn’t worry about him. You’re worrying about his name, not what he was last season.
1300 yards and 4.2 YPC is pretty darn good. McCoy is elite.
There is nothing elite about those numbers whatsoever.
How many guys in the league have that many yards, carries and 4.2 YPC is pretty darn good when you are getting the ball that many times.
Al, Jahn, so according to you guys on a RB’s touches wearing them down….then we should all be applauding Philbin for grossly limiting Lamar Miller’s touches per game like he has. 😉
Not sure if you’re trying to stir shit, but I didn’t have a problem with Lamar’s touch count last season. I think you prolong RB careers when you put them on a pitch count. When you don’t you get Jamal Anderson, Lamar Smith, and Ricky Williams (pre 1st retirement).
jahndoh says:
March 4, 2015 at 2:21 pm (Edit)
Takes a legit scheme too. I know you think McCoy is a worldbeater, but replace that name with Spiller/Jackson and they’re still loaded with good skill players.
I think they’re going to be a challenge this year just like they always are, but I think it’s because Ryan will make their defense more formidable, and either Cassel OR McCown will give them better QB play than they had last season.
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McCown signed with Cleveland.
Not my first mistake, nor last. I remembered them pursuing him I guess.
Think my post is still pretty spot on the mistake notwithstanding.
I left out that in addition of it taking a legit scheme, it takes a legit OL as well. There’s was pretty bad last year.
Ken
If McCoy’s numbers last year were elite, does that make MillerTime uber-elite? McCoy was so far from elite last year it’s not funny. in ’13, he was elite, in ’14, he was shell of his ’13 season.
Ken
I think the evidence of exactly how elite McCoy is lies in the fact that the Eagles just traded him for a promising LB who is coming off an injury, and no further compensation, not one draft pick or anything. If he was what you say, why would they do that?
This has about a 99% chance of happening especially after the Bills traded away Kiko Alonso, even tho he played weak side. So Miami is out of the running I’d think.
The New York Daily News’ Manish Mehta expects the Bills “to put on a full-court press” in trying to lure free agent ILB David Harris.
The Bills and Jets will likely be the biggest bidders for Harris’ services, though the Falcons, Bears, and Dolphins have also been linked to the 31-year-old. Harris has been coach Rex Ryan’s “quarterback” of the defense the past six years and would probably be interested in following him to Buffalo. Harris will likely be angling for $6-8 million per year on a multi-year contract.
I would not be surprised if Harris ends up with Sexy Rexy
Lol, i posted WAY back that Bills got Cassell but took GDP posting it for anyone to notice….lol f u terds. (pun intended)
I saw it. You scoop a lot of folks here all the time. I appreciate it and get a lot of my info from you!
How many guys in the league have that many yards, carries and 4.2 YPC is pretty darn good when you are getting the ball that many times.
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Well when you include carries (part of the problem with McCoy) you really limit your potential comparisons. His YPC was dwarfed by Murray though. 80 more carries, 500 more yards, and 4.7 YPC.
PS, Murray is the only RB with more carries than McCoy last season. So he’s the only guy to look at.
Murray is a stud. I was a big fan of his at OU. He just needs to stay healthy and you have to put up with a fumble or 2 with him.
So what do you guys think of McCoy going to BUF? 😉
“I’m told the Atlanta Falcons, Miami Dolphins and New England Patriots have shown great interest in Corey Grant, who has sealed himself as a late-round pick. ” Walterfootball.
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Thats the Auburn RB that ran the sub 4.3’s at his pro day yesterday.
Did you hear that the Bills traded a 5th and a 7th to Minnesota for Matt Cassel though?
😉
Okay McCoy sucks. So Buffalo decided to trade a promising young LB and essentially let an all world stud like Spiller go for a washed piece of junk in McCoy. Okay. I get it.
Not your typical style Ken. But I’ll go ahead and consider that the signal that the conversation can only go downhill from here.
Tee hee. I never said he sucks. I said last year, he played like a shell of the player that put him into the elite stratosphere, because in 2013, he WAS elite. In 2014, he was a full time starter that was average to good.
BTW – Lamar Miller is just 7 spots behind McCoy last year, and of the top 5 RB’s in the NFL, McCoy’s 4.2 is a half a yard less per carry up to a yard less that all of the other guys.
You said tee hee. Uhhhh…hehehehehe… uhhhh…hehehehehe.
I also saw the post about Manute Bol’s son btw D.
My wife actually dated his nephew in HS. I watched him in his “heyday” with the Warriors back in the day.
Mike:
Miller is a fine RB and I am happy we have him. I would take McCoy over him in a heart beat, especially when you look at McCoy as a receiver. I think the biggest impact the Sproles acquisition had on McCoy’s production last year is that it took McCoy out of the game in passing situations and they were using Sproles in that role. That is where the biggest drop off in production was for McCoy.
OK, but why would they do that? Why get Sproles in the first place, and then why let McCoy go? Look, we’ll see what happens with Shady this season. At this point, any further discussion is probably pointless. It’s very clear why BUF made the trade, Alonso doesn’t fit the scheme, and Spiller is a FA. Why PHI made the trade tends to point more that he’s on the decline.
Scoop D, sorry, I didn’t see your previous post of the same Cassel news. All I saw was all you terds dancing weird…Ghey! lol
Lol wasnt posting about you posting it, just that right after it happened i saw a twitter update and i posted something about him being traded and how desparate Bills must be to keep Manuel benched and its was like *crickets* Then you came along and posted it and BOOM discussion on lol. Im joking anyway it happens on here all the time like that.
Did you hear that the Bills traded a 5th and a 7th to Minnesota for Matt Cassel though?
😉
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Yeah i think GDP said something about that…. lol
https://twitter.com/holdmybeergif/status/568894120380530688
Hold my beer as i create a gas leak…there i fixed it
I’m gonna go dance with those girls. LOL
I remember nights like that…..that the kinda shit that made your “someones getting laid tonight” alarm go off.
Oh and i just noticed some guy fell in the background or something
jahndoh says:
March 4, 2015 at 2:52 pm
I also saw the post about Manute Bol’s son btw D.
My wife actually dated his nephew in HS. I watched him in his “heyday” with the Warriors back in the day.
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There was a link in it to a video about him, which i thought was pretty good. Id be ticked though if my name was Bol Bol
LOL!
D, don’t let it bother ya…I post stuff all the time and get crickets too. Happens to all of us. Especially when the rest of the blog is off on some dumb convo about pickles or posting silly pictures….LOL
Adam Schefter
8 mins ·
Peyton Manning and Broncos are near agreement on new contract for the 2015 season in which he will take $4 million pay-cut, per @mortreport and @Jeff_Legwold.
Poor guy, guess he’ll have to do more Papa Johns & Nationwide commercials now.
Hey, look, someone replied to your great post. 😉
LOL
Tim likes a man in uniform….
GD dancing in the club.
LMAO, Tim, that is so me with my height. People want me to dress up like Lurch on halloween.
LOL
The Bulldogs’ pro day is tomorrow, Wednesday, but I’m already told there will be a crowd on hand for Benardrick McKinney. Nearly a dozen linebacker coaches are expected to watch McKinney, who’s been drawing strong interest from the Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants,Miami Dolphins, Chicago Bears and New York Jets, who are meeting with the linebacker for dinner this evening.
Follow Tony Pauline @TonyPauline.
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Bet he is fucking stuffed after that many dinners in one night.
This could help push someone we need to us @ #14. Hopefully White.
NFL Media’s Daniel Jeremiah says the Falcons will select a pass rusher with pick No. 8.
Jeremiah mentions the likes of Vic Beasley, Shane Ray, Dante Fowler Jr. and Randy Gregory all as options at No. 8.
IMO if they dont take Fowler, given he is still available, then they are fools.
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL 5m5 minutes ago
#Dolphins mailbag: Mike Wallace trade for Andre Johnson? http://espn.go.com/blog/miami-dolphins/post/_/id/13576/dolphins-mailbag-mike-wallace-trade-for-andre-johnson …
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Now this fucker is doing it…..
It could happen if Philbin has anything to do with it…lol
ONe of the other Qs was about Knowshon. This I disagree with: “Knowshon Moreno is an aging, injury-prone running back.” Injuries sure, but dude is 27. We saw what he can do, even if just for a bit. Worth a shot on the cheap. Bet we can get him for a couple mil plus some incentives we’d be glad to pay if it works out.
Could probably sign Moreno for a case of Fritos at this point.
Saints Reportedly Fielding Trade Offers For LB Curtis Lofton http://bit.ly/1zYGNhM
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I had heard about a month ago he might be a cap causality and was interested then, dunno what they would want in trade but he is a pretty good LB.
This is why we need a big WR that can do it all.
NFL Media analyst Charles Davis notes that with West Virginia WR Kevin White’s “size and strength,” he “can break short routes Big.”
“Kevin White, WR, W.Virginia-Yes, he makes a lot of big plays over the top, but with his size and strength, no doubt he can break short routes Big,” Davis tweeted. The West Virginia prospect is a natural turning and getting up field after the catch. The 6-foot-3, 215-pound White isn’t the easiest to bring down in the open field, and has the size and the power to make smaller defenders pay.
Yep!
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/heat-index/2015/03/04/churro-dog-is-coming-to-chase-field-and-our-hearts/24384667/
Don’t know how to do the short repeating things, but if we are talking dancing…..even has the NFL theme.
Will Michael Sam’s be dancing with a man? Perhaps one of the judges?
LOL
LOL — maybe not him, but don’t doubt they “go that way” at some point. People would tune in.
Broncos delaying the inevitable, but i guess goes hand in hand tagging Thomas. Win next year with Peyton or full on rebuild mode and let Thomas hit FA next year.
I’m still intrigued by another Ga Tech big WR Darren Waller. Maybe we get him late.
When’s his pro day?
D, the Ga Tech pro day is March 13th.
Miko Grimes @iHeartMiko 3m3 minutes ago
Where? RT @RedBlurr: @iheartmiko Trust us…we know. Another major franchise mistake that set us back for years. At least we have our QB now.
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Damn Brent, couldnt you have married a less yappy bitch….jeeze.
Seriosuly, im not sure if she and Omar might not be the same exact person.
What is she talking about?
WTF is her problem? Not enough cake?
I’m not sure cake is the word. LOL
LMAO, I think he did marry Omar, Omar is living a duel life….the black Bruce Jenner….lol
BTW, who or WTF is she talking about?
Please. I can’t believe what a solid citizen Grimes is and what a serious pain in the ass she’s becoming. I’m going to say it flat out. Miko needs to mind her own business and stop commenting on Brent’s business.
When we sign Suh 😉
I think we need an OG with any money left
Then we can draft like this
1st trade down and pick up extra 2nd
1 WR
2a LB1
2b LB2
That’s right 2 LBs in the 2nd one ILB and one OLB
3 DB
4 WR
5 RB/OL depth
6 RB/OL depth
7 RB/OL depth or another DB
Obviously we only need RB
Wow, you sure can fantasize.
Yep
Just go with it
What money left? LMAO…good one.
So nobody watched the brief 1 min clip on Darren Waller 6’6 238 33.5″ arms 4.46 40 & 37″ vert & combine leading 11.35 sec 60yd shuttle.
Plus Ga Tech receivers are known for their blocking with the triple option they run.
I watched it, but i already know and am on board with your idea, we have even talked that he could play hybrid TE/WR
Right, I was big on him way back. Yes, he could be a better hybrid WR/TE than Funchess…IMO.
60 yard shuttle? We’re talking about American football right? Worthless measurement.
Credit to his 40 and vert though. Pretty damn good for a man of that size. Can he block?
I still do not realistically see how we can afford Suh and have any money left to extend Tannehill, fix WR and OL.
There is defiantly enough $ for Tanny and Suh
I don’t think there is any reason to even discuss that
We draft 2 WRs and we are fine
I’m guessing the FO has more faith in Billy Turner than we know
You can get low cost OGs
It’s not a premium position
What about LB, FS, CB, RB for short yardage? 😉
It’s a not a premium position but we have been trying to fix this OL too long. We need to get it right because I truly believe fixing the OL is the key to this team taking the next step. It will help Tannehill and it will help Miller. Detroit has a had a fearsome DL for years with a quality QB and elite WR and they have not won a playoff game.
I’m going assume you meant to say defiantly, because definitely in that sentence would lead me to question your sobriety. LOL.
Its doable, thats all i can say, i have gone through some examples of how. Thats not to say its smartest move, because it does kinda hem us in on cap and in a few years we would have to be rotating someone out. Then again, even if we spend it differently, we still will be spending it and we will still have to make same kinda moves later. Only real difference is filling one hole on our team with a all pro, or filling multiple hole with good players.
For sure we could do it. Q is should we. Only in favor of it I see is that Starks’ money would go towards his salary, but that leaves me hoping that Mitchell and Fede are ready to step up big time.
getterdone says:
March 4, 2015 at 4:05 pm
LMAO, I think he did marry Omar, Omar is living a duel life….the black Bruce Jenner….lol
BTW, who or WTF is she talking about?
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In that tweet, someone was tweeting to her “Trust us…we know. Another major franchise mistake that set us back for years. At least we have our QB now.” her reply to him was….”Where?”
I still don’t know what they’re talking about.
me neither…lol
Ken, zip it on Suh will ya. It is known. LOL
Tim, I have a feeling Brent Grimes wears those Bose headphones around the house all day when he’s home.
I think he eats lots of cake.
She drinks a lot of milk.
Brent makes me happy and she makes him happy. Why mess with what’s working?
But my guess is the only thing he has to worry about is football…….the rest of his life is dictated to him.
Saints released RB Pierre Thomas.
If he wasnt such a worn down workhorse id say thats a bruiser to look at but dude’s tires have metal showing.
He’s actually a vet back I would look into at a low cost. He can do anything you want a back to do. He’s not a feature back and never has been so he knows the role.
He’s actually no bigger than Miller.
Your Suh pessimism cannot break me
I’ll let reality handle it. 😉
1-on-1 With Ryan Tannehill
Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill talks with John Congemi of The Finsiders as Tannehill participates in an Adidas BOOST event at Trump National at Doral, the site of this year’s Fins Weekend golf event. Watch for Tannehill comments about his excitement to enter his second year in Bill Lazor’s offensive system.
http://www.miamidolphins.com/multimedia/videos/1-on-1-With-Ryan-Tannehill/0937ad2c-9a97-4273-8b22-ad6fc66d24e2?_ga=1.249876550.199815245.1393877852
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-deerfield-race-relations-20150304-story.html
Oh wow……………………………….seriously???………………………………………..
SMH
Ken says:
March 4, 2015 at 4:24 pm
It’s a not a premium position but we have been trying to fix this OL too long. We need to get it right because I truly believe fixing the OL is the key to this team taking the next step. It will help Tannehill and it will help Miller. Detroit has a had a fearsome DL for years with a quality QB and elite WR and they have not won a playoff game.
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Couldn’t agree more Ken. Tannehill was amongst the best in the league when given time last season. Makes sense to invest in his health at this point.
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CAN we afford Tannehill AND Suh…sure. But in practice is that a smart way to do it? Seems very ill advised to me. Maybe they think we’re a year away from a superbowl though, but even then, they’re going to have to pay Tannehill Joe Flacco money. Can’t buy championships.
In case you missed it
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2015/03/suh-pursuit-has-support-in-fins-front-office-dolphins-heat-canes-marlins-chatter-.html
You know, when you get something in your head, you remind me of a booth crapper I used to know- incorrigible and insufferable.
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Precisely-lol
I’m back.
Mike E,
I’m sure Buffalo traded Lynch to Seattle because he was on the decline :P.
Is that also why Denver traded Clinton Portis to Washington for Champ Bailey?
Chip is perhaps in the camp of Mike Shanahan’s RB philosophy -> The system makes the running game not the player’s special talents.
Frank Gore and Adrian Peterson are still rushing away at McCoy’s 2014 average per carry with more NFL mileage logged to date than McCoy.
This move by Philly/Buffalo is Chip leveraging his offensive scheme, getting his own players, and improving defense with a bargaining chip in McCoy. Buffalo is simply using its surplus at LB to meet a starter need they have at RB. Yes age had something to do with it but if Buffalo can get 3-4 more seasons out of McCoy then its worked out well for them.
The key is keeping the RB below 300 carries in a season
Some evidence points to that…
Do Massive Workloads Equal Big Declines in Running Back Productivity? – Fantasy Football Analytics
http://fantasyfootballanalytics.net/2014/08/massive-workloads-equal-big-declines.html
You’re putting way too much stock in a fantasy football analysis that never addresses whether a running back can EVER bounce back once that production decline happens.
Lynch was not the world beater ever, not at Cal, not in Buffalo that he became in Seattle. Portis for Bailey was a blockbuster with 2 top tier players. That example is horrible unless your’e trying to tell me Alonzo is tantamount to Champ Bailey, a sure fire 1st ballot HOFer.
Jahn,
You also can’t buy chemistry 😦
Al dancing with a girl after we sign Suh
LOL
stangerx says:
March 4, 2015 at 4:28 pm
For sure we could do it. Q is should we. Only in favor of it I see is that Starks’ money would go towards his salary, but that leaves me hoping that Mitchell and Fede are ready to step up big time.
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Don’t sleep on Johnson (Anthony) lol.
Piggy,
Hey look, I’m known for doing this.
Almost as weird as this
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Jahn,
You also can’t buy chemistry 😦
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Relevance?
To the discussion that you can’t buy a championship. Most people put stock in a players individual talent with production earned elsewhere and discount chemistry. Marshall in Miami and now Wallace in Miami.
Ok, gotcha. Yes. I agree.
Yo guys, all the moving Gifs and Vines are seriously slowing this page down. Try to reign it in a bit. They’re all funny of course. 🙂
So today’s article inspired postings if Bruce Jenner and Dancing retards….God I hope we never go undefeated again😂
DON’T WORRY DBOLT; AS long as the Ross/T-Baum/Philbin crew is calling the shots we’ll never come close to an undefeated season!! But you MIGHT see Bruce Jenner and the Dancing Retards for a halftime show!!!!!!!!!
so now I read we’re considering Suh? I guess we never learn.
Shit, NSA and IRS has a purpose besides antagonizing me. You ready for the moving gif of two guys making out?
Sure, it’s you and who? LOL
Would there be a problem with that? Curb the insults ya fuckin’ homophobe.
Touchy touchy…btw, how is it an insult if it is ok with you? 😉 jk/bb!
Jahn,
You also can’t buy chemistry 😦
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Relevance?
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Proper response would’ve been “But you can buy a Dildo!”
LOL!
Gotta run. Peace to you all.
Shit, if the Saints cut Curtis Lofton Id be interested
Jahn,
Both McCoy and Alonso came into the NFL with similar expectations (R2; Alonso #46 overall & McCoy #52 overall). That said, Alonso is much younger and has the potential to be a superstar based on the sample size he provided in his rookie season but he’s also coming off major injury.
McCoy has only rushed over 300 times in a season in each of the last two seasons. Before 2013? Lesean rushed only 200 times in 2012 (due to injury), 273 times in 2011, 207 in 2010, and 155 in his rookie season. All for a career total of 1462 attempts through 6 seasons.
Marshawn Lynch? 1452 attempts through his first 6 NFL seasons.
The first time Lynch crossed 300 attempts in a season? 2012 where he averaged a career best 5.0 per carry. 2013? crossed 300 attempts again but his y/c was down to 4.2 same as McCoy’s this season. 2014 saw Lynch bounce back up to 4.7
I won’t bother with Gore’s numbers but he’s been alright going into his 11th season now with more carries through his first 6 seasons than McCoy.
Even LaDanian Tomlinson who carried 300+ every season (at an alarming 335+ carry average per season) for 7 straight seasons was able to hold up his production through his 7th season. He declined in years 8 and 9 but had a slight bounce back in a reduced carry role in NY for a season before bowing out.
I want to give you huge credit for all the research, but on one hand you cite that when they exceed 300 carries is when you run into a problem, but then you argue that McCoy coming off his second 300 carry season in a row isn’t a problem. Then you cite Thomlinson (who’s heyday was long enough ago I don’t know how relevant it is) which seems to further discount the 300 carry a season thing.
It’s kind of all over the place. I stand by this: You don’t trade a game changing skill position player for a LB with all of 2nd round potential who’s yet to live up to it coming off a major injury. So something has to give.
PS, do Gore’s numbers support the thesis? What is the thesis? You think something magical happens DURING the season when they carry the ball 300 times? Is the 301st carry and all succeeding carries so poor as to drag down what would have already been a great YPC average? Or is it that the football Gods know the RB is going to exceed 300 carries and thus downgrades the YPC pre-emptively? Because the studies you reference focus on the next seasons production. So….anyway, I feel like your’e data dumping but the thesis is moving in the progress.
Some coaches are just funny like that Jahn. Maybe Kelly thinks he can do well with Sproles as he’s done, he’s got some talent in the background developing, and he may be targeting drafting one in this RB rich draft class. Plus you don’t pay over $7M for a RB in today’s pass happy NFL. You just don’t.
I’d really like to take a look at this kid, he’s 26, has some game, is quick. Was IR’d after 9 games due to a concussion, so wasn’t a leg injury. He could fit in with what Coyle likes to do. Keep in mind these are the kinda guys we have to sign if we go big with Suh.
Free agent WLB Jacquian Williams will test the open market.
Williams was a full-time starter prior to landing on I.R. last season, recording 78 tackles over nine games. He should be limited to backup offers in free agency.
He’s shown he can play in coverage too.
Bring this former USF player home. 🙂
I heard Chip Kelly wants more of a north/south runner.
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley
ICYMI: Mike Wallace thinks he’ll remain with the Dolphins, dad says
Yeah read that earlier today but since i prefer stories with happy endings, im pretending this one didnt happen.
Gotta close this page down. Catch you folks on flip side.
Wait Jahn we have a few more gifs for you to load into memory…..
Jahn, have a good evening. Catch up with ya later on more football discussion.
DBOLT; Answer for you below your 5:16 post RE:Bruce Jenner and the Dancing Retards.
D, I’m ok with Wallace staying another year if his attitude issue has been addressed and if he makes a commitment to change for the better.
Hickey needs to look into making this deal/trade happen!
Wilhoite is 28, been with SF all 3 yrs of his career.
In 2014 over 16gms he put up 87 tckls, 2 INT’s, 1 FF, 6 PD’s. He’s very versatile inside or out.
The Sacramento Bee reports the 49ers have placed exclusive rights free agent ILB Michael Wilhoite on the trade block.
The 49ers have a surplus of inside linebackers with Patrick Willis, Chris Borland and Navorro Bowman all returning next year. Wilhoite was a 16-game starter in 2014, but would be limited to a backup role if re-signed. San Francisco is seeking a sixth- or seventh-round pick for Wilhoite.
The Niners are a LB producing machine. I’d take a long look at making that move. A 6th or 7th is worth it.
It really is a good move for that. Takes some pressure off of drafting a rook and expecting results day one.
I keep throwing hidden gems out there while you guys drool over a boy named Suh!
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly 3m3 minutes ago
The only possible contender for Suh might me Washington. A Steve Ross vs. Dan Snyder showdown. This might get interesting.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly 5m5 minutes ago
Word on the street regarding Suh is that when Steve Ross is involved you better be prepared to big high. Teams think Suh to Miami is done.
No shit?
Well this makes it official, Suh will not be in Miami😆
LOL
so i see suh is all the talk still. might at well just give up on the season if he is signed. there is no way in hell roger will let him play against tammy. all the money only to get suspended.
If we land Suh, then these hidden low cost gems are what we’ll have to do to fill other position needs.
The biggest concern I have with signing Suh is him being 1 mistake away from a year long suspension but I was reading someone that said with the new CBA his “transgressions” have been reset and last year’s Rodgers stomp counted as strike 1, so his next mistake will only be a game or 4 games max. Anybody know if this is accurate?
I’d hope we have a suspension clause to make him agree to that will save us a lot of cap money should he get stupid again.
I have no idea, but I really don’t think we’re getting Suh.
Suh is a DT though and Watt plays 3-4 DE, lines up inside at times and even as a OLB.
I know, but gotta luv that production by JJ & Suh wants more money that him…Hmmm.
I agree GDP – Suh is NO JJ Swatt
Looks like one more snow storm before a lot of good early spring weather kicks in next week.
Yep, supposed to get somewhere between 8-12 inches here. It was over 60 degrees yesterday and it’s been raining all day today. If it had been colder today and the rain had been snow I think it would be over my head by now. Now we have flooding because all the snow from before melted and with the rain today, it’s a wet muddy mess. School has already been cancelled tomorrow and rumors that my work may be cancelled. So have to say, LETS GO SNOW!!!
I know it sucks, Herd. Be safe and we’ll get to spring eventually.
Yeah, I wonder what my company is going to do. They might open for the afternoon or evening session, but I’d think the morning session will be cancelled. If it’s still snowing through the afternoon, they might cancel the entire schedule.
I think you’re getting more than me as the south and central are getting more. Be safe.
The highest-paid player at every position in 2014 combined for just two playoff wins, both coming from Cowboys Jason Witten and Brandon Carr. If these players are worth paying that much, why isn’t it translating to on-field success?
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The Patriots won a Super Bowl paying Tom Brady, Rob Gronkowski and Darrelle Revis a combined $27.2 million, per Spotrac.
J.J. Watt is a very special player. Even though Suh can’t do what Watt does because he’s not that kind of athlete, Watt could not be the force that Suh is inside as a DT on regular basis either because he doesn’t have Suh’s power.
It doesn’t make a difference. Watt is more versatile and also more dominant than Suh. Suh shouldn’t get paid more, but that’s up to the owner who opens his checkbook, not me or you.
I’m still advocating saving money by signing 26yo Stephen Paea who set a combine record 49 reps on the bench in 2011. He’s kinda overlooked because of that horrible Bears D in 2013, but he’s been pretty solid. I’m interested in what he could do here.
I’d bet he could put up 49 reps here too, but what did he do on the field? 😀
Tim
Is that right? This is not the typical north and west storm? If that’s the case, we should definitely be closing. I’ve seen 4-8″ and snow starting from about midnight lasting until about 7PM tomorrow. I think if it does last that long, we’ll close. Any chance your place opens tomorrow?
You’re projected 4-8 and we’re 2-5. I left my computer on at work so if it’s worse than what’s expected I can log in from home and still get some stuff done.
That’s cool. Do you have the Citrix system, or something like that?
Mike, a young NT/DT Paea had 33 tkls, 6 sacks, 2 FF, 3 PD’s in 2014, his best season out of 4.
My view on Suh is if we’re all hot and heavy for him than I’ll just roll with what we do because there’s nothing we can do about it anyway. There are lots of ways to make the cap work and then in future years we do more clearing. I’m more focused on hitting in the draft.
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