So far, on the defensive side of the ball, I’ve looked at the safety prospects and linebacker prospects. Now, it’s time to take a look at the cornerbacks. Brent Grimes, as far as I’m concerned, is the the only Miami Dolphins CB you can pencil in as a starter. Everyone else, and I do mean E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E, is a question mark.
This draft seems to be deep at CB, but not top heavy. There are a couple of guys that are potential 1st RD picks, but none that are can’t miss talents.
Let’s take a look at this years CB prospects!
Trae Waynes CB – Michigan St. 6’0” 186
Before the combine, Waynes was considered as possibly the first CB to come off the board. After the combine, he solidified his status. Waynes ran a blistering 4.31 in the 40, and put up an impressive 19 reps on the bench.
His last season at Michigan St., Waynes had 3 INT’s along with 8 passes defensed, 1 sack, and 46 tackles, 34 solo.
Waynes can play in any scheme, but he would likely excel in a press scheme, where his size and strength would allow him to bump the receiver off his route. He is a very good cover corner who can stay with any receiver. One thing at the combine that concerns me was his poor cone and 20 YD shuttle scores, 7.06 in the cones, and 4.39 in the shuttle shows poor agility and body control.
NFL.com has Waynes as the #1 CB and rated at 6.27
NFL Comparison – Antonio Cromartie (Waynes, at the moment, has no kids)
Jalen Collins CB – LSU 6’1” 203
While Collins doesn’t have the speed of Waynes, he’s a very good CB in his own right. Collins didn’t fly at the combine, he ran a 4.48, which is fine for an NFL CB. Just to go back to the shuttle, Collins did the shuttle in 6.77, and was the top performer. He was a little better than Waynes in 20 YD shuttle at 4.27, which shows the ability to change directions quickly.
Collins is also leaving as a Junior, and finished his last season with 1 INT, 9 passes defensed, 38 tackles, 28 solo.
Collins only has 10 career starts, so that leaves him without a real body of work to look at. Teams are going to have to project his value. He has the size most teams are looking for. NFL.com has Collins as #2 for CB’s, and has him rated at 6.18.
NFL comparison – Terence Newman
Ronald Darby CB – Florida St. 5’11” 193
Darby performed well at the combine, running a sub 4.4 40 (4.38), and also showed off his hops with a 41.5” vertical.
Darby also left college as a Junior. His last season at Florida St., Darby had no INT’s, 4 passes defensed, 1 FF, and 43 tackles, 28 solo.
Darby is a former HS track star. He has very good body control. Darby has 2 years of experience playing CB, but only 2 INT’s in that time. Also a good cover corner, but hasn’t shown that he’s a playmaker or ballhawk.
NFL.com has Darby rated #3 with a 5.87 rating.
NFL comparison – Johnathan Joseph
Kevin Johnson CB – Wake Forest 6’0” 188
Johnson is rated as #4 by NFL.com. Johnson is the first CB that we’re looking at that has played all 4 seasons in college. As a Senior, Johnson had 1 INT, 6 passes defensed, 44 tackles, 32 solo. In 4 years, Johnson had 7 total INT’s, with 3 both as a Sophomore and Junior.
Johnson didn’t impress at the combine with his 40 time, just a decent 4.52, but he showed his athletic ability with a 130” broad jump, a 41.5” vertical, an impressive 6.79 cone, and a blazing fast 3.89 20 YD shuttle. While not top end speed fast, he plays fast, and has great agility, acceleration and recovery speed.
Very good cover man, excellent balance, and a good tackler who is willing to support the run. Can play in a press or zone scheme. Plays stronger than he looks.
NFL.com has Johnson rated #4 at 5.86.
NFL comparison – Sam Shields
Marcus Peters CB – Washington 6’0” 197
Marcus Peters is another Junior leaving college for the NFL. In his last season at Washington, Peters played in 9 games last season, but he was suspended for 1 game after throwing a sideline tantrum, and then later dismissed for run ins with the coaches. Sounds like a perfect fit with ol’ Joe, eh? In his 9 games, Peters came down with 3 INT’s, 7 passed defensed, 1 INT for a TD, and 1 FF. In his 3 year career, minus a few games his last season, Peters had a total of 11 INT’s, pretty impressive.
The combine didn’t do Peters any favors except for his 17 reps on the bench. He ran a 4.53, which is borderline acceptable for a CB. He’s a player though, and has good production. Physical player who likes to intimidate (even his coaches!)
NFL.com has Peters ranked #5 with a 5.82 rating
NFL comparison – Aqib Talib
PJ Williams CB – Florida St. 6’0” 194
Williams is the CB on the other side of the field with Ronald Darby at Florida St. That’s a talented secondary right there. Unlike Darby though, PJ Williams didn’t have a great combine. He ran a 4.57, which may hurt his chances as a starting CB. He did show athleticism with a 132” broad jump, and a 40” vertical.
Williams is also leaving FLA St. as a Junior. In his last season, Williams had 1 INT, 10 passes defensed, 1 FF, 1 sack, and 74 tackles, 52 solo.
Williams is ranked #6 on NFL.com with a 5.8 rating
Physical and competitive player who likes to press. Stays physical down the field, which could be a problem in the NFL, where hands-on is frowned upon. Despite his lack of top end speed, Williams is a very good cover corner.
NFL comparison – Stephon Gilmore
Senquez Golson CB – Ole Miss 5’9” 176
This “mighty-mite” is one of my favorites, probably because he’s often compared to our own Brent Grimes. Ultra-competitive player, who is also a very productive player. A 4year starter at Mississippi, Golson in his Senior year snared 10 INT’s, 1 returned for a TD, had 8 passes defensed, 0.5 sacks, and 43 tackles, 33 solo.
CB with excellent ball skills (just like Grimes). Golson performed well at the combine, just didn’t stand out in any category, but well in all of them. He ran s 4.46, put up 15 reps, and a good 6.81 cone drill. He;’s a very good athlete, with a non-stop motor. He played mostly zone coverage, so he may need to prove he can play press as well, although not here in MIA.
Golson was rated #7 by NFL.com with a 5.73
NFL comparison – I TOLD YA, Brent Grimes!
D’Joun Smith CB – FAU 5’10” 187
I’m skipping around now (Well, not skipping around the house, just going out of order as far as rankings are concerned)
Smith is a very good athlete, and showed well at the combine. He didn’t kill any one category, but he did well across the board. He ran a 4.45, 18 reps on the bench, and a 6.96 cone drill.
Smith leaves FAU as a Senior. In his last season at FAU, Smith had 1 INT, (returned for a TD) 8 passes defensed, 1 FF, and 53 tackles, 32 solo. He had a great Junior season, with 7 INT’s, 13 passes defensed, 2 FF’s and a TD. The kid is a very competitive player, very spunky. Thing is, he didn’t face a high level of competition at FAU.
NFL.com has Smith rated at 5.61
NFL comparison – Ross Cockrell
Ifo Ekpre-Olomu CB – Oregon 5’9” 192
Ekpre-Olomu was unable to perform at the combine, he is coming off a knee injury he sustained in preparation for the the playoff game against Florida St.
Ekpre-Olomu was a 4 YR starter at Oregon. He finished his Senior year with 2 INT’s, 9 passes defensed, 1 FF and 63 tackles, 43 solo.
Very fluid athlete with loose hips that can change direction well. Plays tough, and has good ball skills. The knee injury is a concern, so that alone will drop him some in the draft. Still, he has potential to be a great CB.
NFL.com has Ekpre-Olomu rated at 5.57
NFL comparison – Alterraun Verner
Charles Gaines CB – Louisville 5’10” 180
Gaines left Louisville as a Junior. In his last season, he had 2 INT’s, 10 passes defensed, 1 FF, 1 sack, and 36 tackles, 31 solo. In his Sophomore year, Gaines had 5 INT’s (1 returned for a TD). He was a WR when he came to Louisville, and was converted to a CB. This gives him somewhat of an advantage in coverage. Mirrors very well.
Gaines ran a 4.45 at the combine, which is pretty good. He didn’t show particularly well in any other category at the combine.
NFL.com has Gaines rated at 5.56
NFL comparison – Patrick Robinson
Quinten Rollins CB – Miami (Ohio) 5’11” 195
Interesting prospect who played basketball for 3 years, and then played football as a Senior at Miami of Ohio. He made an easy transition to football, and his basketball skills served him well as a CB. In his one and only season, Rollins had 7 INT’s (1 returned for a TD), 9 passes defensed, 1 FF, and 72 tackles, 53 solo.
Rollins, despite his excellent season will be an NFL project, and likely won’t be a starter right away. He also ran a 4.57 at the combine, which says he likely won’t be on the outside, but could possibly be a fit in the slot.
NFL.com has Rollins rated at a 5.71 (Most likely on potential)
NFL comparison – Perrish Cox
Lorenzo Doss CB – Tulane 5’10” 182
3 year starter at Tulane. Left Tulane as a Junior. In his last season, Doss had 3 INT’s, 9 passes defensed, 1 sack, and 48 tackles, 36 solo. In Doss’s Sophomore season, he had 7 INT’s, and 4 in his Freshman year.
Doss wasn’t impressive at the combine, running a decent 4.5 40, only putting up 9 reps at the bench, and a below average 33.5” vertical, and also did poorly in the cone drills at 7.20. Still, Doss is a player with good ball skills, and that will get him drafted.
NFL.com has Doss rated at 5.65
NFL comparison – Buster Skrine
There are other CB’s who may be in the picture, but there are only so many hours in the day. I think we’ll likely see one of the guys above, or maybe 2 on our team. We need CB’s, one because I’m not sure either Jamar Taylor or Will Davis can stay healthy enough to actually play an entire season, and Brent Grimes is going to be 32 by the time the season starts.
If there are any guys you feel should have been here, bring them up on the blog, and give us some info!
love the dancing pickle but that poor guy walking behind him just walks right into a worm hole and disappeared from the planet
That’s kinda what happens when you start replying to Tim….you see how Jahn disappeared.
Power of the Pickle 😉
Jahn, my feelings on Suh weren’t directed specifically at you, but you clearly took it that way. They were directed at everyone going back and forth about the same thing that has been discussed all week. I was just saying I’m not going to worry about ti. It was never intended to tell you and anyone else to stop discussing it. Not sure why people always feel they’re being told what to discuss but it happens all the time and it’s pretty funny.
What is going on with your hands below the screen shot? Playing with your pickle?
“Not sure why people always feel they’re being told what to discuss but it happens all the time ”
Happens all the time. yeah, I wouldn’t think too hard on that.
LMAO @ next year he is traded for shoes
….or a set of ginsu knives.
So here is a compilation of a bunch of you guys dancing. Was this from the last fest?
0:00 Tim starts it all off
0:20 Brian comes in
0:36 FFR doing his thing
0:58 Randy doesnt know the camera is rolling.
1:09 Rhino did know it was rolling
1:29 SB7 bustin a not sober move…
1:44 Go on with your bad self GDP.
1:50 Stanger, dude, we can still see you in that camo….
2:02 Dont worry Herd winter will be over soon…..
2:14 Its the miggity miggity mac…Mike E
2:41 Really Gigi…..really?
2:50 OD refuses to dance but brought us a video of him dancing in his younger days.
2:58 Kong comes in and closes it out.
And then there is this, no relevance but it was pretty damn cute so i included it lol.
I start if off? That looks like Joe Philbin. LOL
Sorry Tim i couldnt find better fit and couldnt leave ya out lol
I hope you get to see this Mike lol…….
Don’t think Mike will like seeing Mike.
LMAO — Kong takes the prize…….and am wondering if Gigi gets to join the NFL concussion lawsuit after that. Well Done D.
GD, I don’t think Wayne has much left at 36 years old.
at least my thing gets the bitches
D, @ 3:38 Jahn is lurking in the background shaking his head in utter disapproval & banging his fist on the keyboard at the slow refresh rates on his screen.
Thanks man! Appreciate the kind words – My pleasure
Q — ”How many zeros does a quadrillion have?”
A — ”One with 15 zeros after it.”
Q — “The world’s population is 7 billion – isn’t a quadrillion is one million times more than that.”
The prosecutor and a DNA expert talking today about the likelihood of Aaron Hernandez’s DNA not being on a blunt found at the scene of the murder.
I can’t see youtube on my work PC, it’s blocked. I’ll check it out at home, although it sounds like I’m not going to like it. lol
This is Mike E dancing.
Jonathan Martin happy to be back in San Fran area. Note the pink tie.
Wow, I didn’t know you were black.
So I’m seeing some passive aggression, but I find that kind of a cowardly way to antagonize. I’ll just be direct:
“Not sure why people always feel they’re being told what to discuss but it happens all the time ”
Happens all the time huh? So I’m not the only one to misunderstand your dismissive talk?
I wouldn’t think too hard on that. Not like the problem could be with the messenger. It’s surely everyone else.
Jahn — I have no idea how you do that stuff, but my guess is everyone some found some site to do it on. It’s all kids having fun……..you saw how crazy people went on it yesterday long before you mentioned the loading issue.
Oh no doubt. I do think Tim’s and GDPs recent posts were in some way inspired by my multiple requests though. Whatever. It’s a bitch way to do things, just the way I see it.
It’s clearly better entertainment than discussing our rivals, Suh, or the Salary cap.
Awesome — they actually found the nine commandments of the Road Runner/Wiley Coyote World.
Jahn, holy fuck can you turn a nothing into something. I can’t explain myself any other way. It’s not a big deal. Geez!
That’s the spirit, don’t think about your roll too hard.
or your role. LOL..
Don’t want to derail the moving .Gif party too much with football talk, so with that, I’m out for few days.
lol….go fuck yourself San Diego….
Ahh Jahn — we do the football talk too. Read up to today’s posts and that is clear. Hope you are back to dissect the ramifications of Suh’s contract with me……or even better if what we can do with the money saved after he re-signs with the Lions.
You were the kids who had 100 bucks and your eye on that rare Griffey Jr baseball card but left the store after buying 30 other cards at 3 a pop. You still spent your 100 and your collection still looks like shit. 🙂
LOL D — actually I was the kid who bought my cards in the wrapper and then waited to see what happened.
suh to miami is a mistake IMO. We can use that money to sign some other key positions.
Silly Tim says:
March 6, 2015 at 1:19 pm
The bottom line is if we want Suh we’ll do anything we can to land him. As a fan I’ll be rooting for whoever makes up the team so I’m not going to get all worried about the cap.
March 6, 2015 at 1:22 pm
Thanks for sharing. I’m going to go ahead and talk about what interests me though.
Nobody told you not to. My post was a general statement about my feelings. You’re not the only one who is concerned about the cap here. I was just saying I’m not going to worry about it. Sorry that somehow annoyed you which it obviously did. So there’s my role in it. I’m a bad man. LOL
Mando thinks the Dolphins are confident about Suh
“Discovered by the Germans in 1904, they named it San Diego, which of course in German means ‘a whale’s vagina.”
San Diego then is German equivalent to Bianca Wilfork, which is New English for same thing.
25. “He had a voice that could make a wolverine purr and suits so fine they made Sinatra look like a hobo.” — Narrator
24. “I immediately regret this decision.” — Ron Burgundy
23. “I’ll have a Manhattan. And kick the vermouth to the side with a pair of steel-toed boots.” — Veronica Corningstone
22. “I love scotch. Scotchy scotch scotch. Here it goes down, down into my belly.” — Ron Burgundy
21. “Oh, I can barely lift my right arm ’cause I did so many. I don’t know if you heard me counting. I did over a thousand.” — Ron Burgundy
20. “Discovered by the Germans in 1904, they named it San Diego, which of course in German means ‘a whale’s vagina.’” — Ron Burgundy
19. “It’s terrible. She has beautiful eyes, and her hair smells like cinnamon!” — Ron Burgundy
18. “Baxter, is that you? Baxter! Bark twice if you’re in Milwaukee.” — Ron Burgundy
17. ” There were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.” — Brick Tamland
16. “You are a smelly pirate hooker. Why don’t you go back to your home on Whore Island?” — Ron Burgundy
15. “I read somewhere their periods attract bears. Bears can smell the menstruation.” — Brick Tamland
14. “Well if you were a man, I’d punch you. Punch you right in the mouth.” — Ron Burgundy
13. “I’m very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.” — Ron Burgundy
12. “You look like a blueberry.” — Veronica Corningstone
11. “The human torch was denied a bank loan.” — Ron Burgundy
10. “It is anchorman, not anchorlady. And that is a scientific fact.” — Champ Kind
9. “I would like to extend to you an invitation to the pants party.” — Brick Tamland
8. “[I’ll] take your mother, Dorothy Mantooth, out for a nice seafood dinner and never call her again.” — Champ Kind
7. “It’s so damn hot. Milk was a bad choice.” — Ron Burgundy
6. “What? You pooped in the refrigerator? And you ate the whole wheel of cheese? How’d you do that? Heck, I’m not even mad; that’s amazing.” — Ron Burgundy
5. “Don’t act like you’re not impressed.” — Ron Burgundy
4. “They’ve done studies, you know. 60 percent of the time, it works every time.” — Brian Fantana
3. “I’m in a glass case of emotion!” — Ron Burgundy
2. “You know I don’t speak Spanish.” — Ron Burgundy
1. “I love lamp.” — Brick Tamland
To the Met fans: Harvey’s first appearance against live hitting, 6 up, 6 down, 3 SOs, he hit 99MPH and had a great curve ball which he didn’t use a lot last year.
Who cares about the Mets anyways…oh wait sorry couple of you guys were masochists
Jets are releasing Harvin. Not a shocker.
You know what, he’s a bit of a headcase, seems to always have some type of injury, but he’d be a great fit in our offense.
Everytime he has been released or put on the block i have said part of me wants to take a shot part doesnt, but he is a very unique talent and athletically very gifted. I dunno, he also wont come cheap and i dont know right now if we can muddy up our FA spending until we see what we are doing with Suh.
He might body slam Wallace for benching himself and taking Harvins seat.
LOL @ D
That dance video was awesome. In my own defense that was my “just got some gorilla strange” back in my single days and I had no idea they had cameras in her cage.
“You were the kids who had 100 bucks and your eye on that rare Griffey Jr baseball card but left the store after buying 30 other cards at 3 a pop. You still spent your 100 and your collection still looks like shit.” LOL
“It’s called Sex Panther by Odeon. It’s illegal in nine countries… Yep, it’s made with bits of real panther, so you know it’s good.”
Ewwwww… it’s smells like Bigfoots dick.
That’s great news! So glad to hear that Harvey is ready to go! Made my day!
You masochist. LOL
Catch you folks later.
Omar has an interesting article on Ross (O can be good when he is telling stories rather than judgments)
Interesting in there is that Forbes now has Ross’ net worth at $6.5 billion, which makes him the second richest owner in the NFL (behind Paul Allen). Last estimate I saw had him worth half that. Seems the upturn in the real estate market has treated him well. Seems we don’t have to worry about him spending up to the cap or becoming a goat by selling the team for money to another city either.
Also in there is that he bought the W Hotel on Ft. Lauderdale Beach (real nice and huge place btw) for $90 mil. Seems he got that for just about as much as Suh would cost. Now that’s a reality check.
Brandon Marshall being traded to the Jest. Chicago gives up B Marshall, the Jest give up a 6th and all future playoff opportunities.
LOL tru dat
So I watched the Omar and Perkins video on Ndamukong Suh and Omar says paying him $100M or more makes him more powerful than the HC Philbin, the GM Hickey and top exec. Mike T. Uhhh… wouldn’t that be the case with all players who make more than all three combined? I didn’t get the point at all, but they did have a good laugh mentioning how he’d be another elite player along with Wake, Grimes, Albert and Pouncey and giggling how the QB isn’t elite. They just can’t stop bashing the guy no matter how much he improves. They talk so matter of fact as if they know what it’s all about.
Oh yeah, Omar would prefer we go after 3 good players for maybe less guaranteed money rather than put it all into one guy – like Dan Williams from Arizona State. LOL
Omar has always had an agenda against Tanny. He also talks out of both sides of his mouth continually and generally makes no sense either.
Cue Randy to say he’s right. LOL
The better way to have said it would have been to say and a young up and coming QB which he is, but no they can’t do that.
LOL, true. Tannehill has the confidence of 99% of people in the ‘know’, the real inside football experts & coaches, execs, etc.
The rest of that lil 1% is us blathering idiots.
Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero · 8h 8 hours ago
Dolphins traded Marshall when they hired new coach and knew they were drafting a rookie QB. Jets might do exact opposite, if draft Mariota.
And the Bears did the same exact thing we did when they hired a new HC (Fox) but they seem kind of stuck with Cutler.
Patriots K Stephen Gostkowski signed his one-year, $4.59 million franchise tender.
What a shame his monkey drove him to the brink.
NFL suspended SS LaRon Landry 10 games for violating the league’s policy against performance-enhancing drugs.
It’s Landry second PED suspension after missing four games last year. Already in steep decline, Landry’s latest suspension puts him in danger of falling out of the league. 30-year-old Landry hasn’t drawn any interest since being released by the Colts. PFF graded Landry as a bottom-50 safety in 2014.
I was never a big fan of his. He’s a big, physical safety who could hit and play in the box but he struggled in coverage much like former safety Roy Williams did.
Seahawks signed Marshawn Lynch to a three-year, $31 million contract extension.
Lynch will make $12 million this year, including a $7.5M signing bonus. He’ll have salaries of $9 million and $7 million in 2016-17 if he doesn’t retire. Lynch was scheduled to make $7 million. Seattle will give him a $5M raise for 2015.
That’s pretty wild. That’s a helluva salary for a RB.
If they would have handed him the ball on 2nd and 1 nobody would even question it. That guy makes a difference in games. He’s a rare breed. He runs angry and when he goes into beast mode he closes out games. Unless a coach takes the ball out of his hands.
Hopefully Miller becomes that beast mode type guy too now that he’s going into his 3-4th year where he’s really becoming more a focal point.
Lynch was good but not elite in Buffalo for his first 3 yrs, but since he’s been in Seattle, he’s been unstoppable.
I love Miller’s progression. He’s improved as a runner – more decisive, better in pass pro and as a receiver. He was a young back who entered the draft probably a year too early. Even his UM coach? at the time said you’re getting two top talents a year early in Vernon and Miller.
So true. He was barely used as a rookie 51 carries, then 2013 he had 177, 2014 he had 216 rushes.
Open the gates and let that mother RUN!
The patriots are paying their kicker 5m?
Yup, that’s a lot of money for being abusive kicking a pigs skin for 6-7months a year.
I love it!
GD, Miller receptions – 6, 26, 38. Most people don’t have the patience for development anymore. It doesn’t help their FF teams. LOL
I happen to enjoy watching players develop. The only caveat is you can’t develop forever.
Agreed, and correct, you aren’t going to suddenly develop after about the 4th- 5th year of playing.
this was the miami i grew up in
You ancient fart….lol 😉
yeah i’m old but i won’t change a thing. today’s world is so different
I’m with ya, I remember some of that stuff in the video. Today’s world is not really my cup of tea either.
I was in love with jack haast’s niece- she was beautiful. I went to high school with her. He was an extraordinary man, though.
Her name was Michelle.
RIP Brandon Marshall’s career (2006-2015) ——-guy did well considering he wasn’t a 1st rounder. He invested in several sports doctors clinics down here. upside down world football player buying doctors clinics.
That was pretty cool jetsuck
I think that farm stores is still on griffin road
I forgot about Miami News
I remember when they went out of business
I think it was the 80s
yes it is.Another is located on hallandale blvd and I believe another on broward blvd.Miami news used to report monday night games since they came out during the afternoons. Their is a Lums in downtown davie still. Royal castle I used to love the hamburgers—-they were famous around down here sort of like crystal burgers in chicago.
miami news used to report MNF games better since they distributed their papers in the afternoon.
Piggy, question for you. I know you want Suh. Do you think we sign him or is it just that you want it to happen?
I’m leaning towards believing it will happen
I didn’t think a weeks go we were even in consideration
I enjoyed that video. Very cool. Obviously, I never lived in MIA, but I did go there often, my family owned a travel agency, and we had a lot of senior groups that we chaperoned down there, so I was there many times, and I’ve been to a few of the places in that video.
Yes, there’s still a Farms Store off of Broward Blvd. My parents still get Farms Store egg nog during the holidays. The best egg nog around IMO.
Heading to sleep. Tired tonight, and I have to get to work early tomorrow. Goodnight all!
Twice – Good to see you, even in passing. 🙂
And thanks for the video jetssuck – I remember a few of those things though many were before my time. Definitely a blast from the past for those of us who grew up down there. Liked old South Florida better for sure, although some bias and nostalgia are likely affecting my opinion…
Coral Castle, Shorty’s, Serpentarium, Coppertone billboard, Farm Stores (egg nog was the best, Twice!), Pumpernicks, Zayres.. Lots of nostalgia there.