Another Big 3 in Miami?

Another Big 3 in Miami?

It is possible.

A Sonny Football Fantasy

By John D (son of a son of a shula)


The Miami Heat did it with Lebron, Dwayne and Bosh (hasn’t earned first name status), so why can’t another Miami team?  One piece is in place – our newly acquired Ndamakong Suh and the other two are a possibility. Building a championship team requires either a lot of luck or simply having the best players at the most important positions. Having, or in this case building and fostering, a championship swag requires the correct pieces. There is a possibility that our Miami Dolphins could find themselves with three of the absolute most dynamic players in the game who play with a desire and passion few are able to equal.

The first piece, as said, is in place Suh will anchor our Defensive line and allow all pro Wake to feast on  man blocking, Grimes less time to have to cover, Misi a clean shot at a back, Vernon the benefit of eaten up blockers, Jones the opportunity to jump a hot route. Play-making opportunities. Suh will allow our defense to control opponents in a way we haven’t seen in Miami since the Killer Bees were in business.  The first of the triumvirate, Suh,  is a monster who dominates offensive linemen like no other playing today. Let’s compare him to Dwayne Wade the first one here the rock the uncelebrated hero.

Now we’ll move on to round out the great Miami Triumvirate. Most if any of you will not like this but work with me this is Sonny Fantasy Football for now. Ryan Tannehill is a nice QB who is an ascending player with tremendous athletic ability and quite frankly a nice piece in a chess match to be great. You see we can trade Ryan before he gets really expensive and get another STAR. Entering the last year of his contract is the up to now unsigned Cam Newton. Cam straight up for Tannehill. Piece number 2 of the BIG three. A QB with tremendous fire, cannon arm and the best running ability for a QB we may have ever seen. Randall Cunningham plus 50 pounds. Cam would be Lebron, the man scoring and willing his team to victory.

So now you want to know who would be Bosh of the Triumvirate. He wants out of Minnesota, he’s just the best running back of this generation and he hasn’t won a title yet just the rest of the Big Three. We have picks for this year and next to facilitate a deal to bring in our Bosh. The enforcer, the scrappy finisher and the last member of the Big Three. Adrian Peterson in the same backfield as Cam Newton, and no one runs the read option better than Cam. And no one runs over Defenses better than Peterson.

This may be a lot to take in for you guys and you may think I’ve lost my mind but in todays climate and with this team mired in mediocrity why not take a shot at something great? Think of the composition of this team with Suh, Cam and AP with guys like a fired up Wake, Grimes, Albert, Pouncey, Delmas and Jones. Then factor in the second year guys who made a huge splash with the attitude and desire they brought in James and Landry. The swag or confidence oozes from this group as I envision it. Then think about adding that big receiver at 14. Instantly the Dolphins would become a favorite to compete for the Super Bowl.

I understand most people would neither like this or believe it would ever happen but I bring it up simply because the possibility exists. Cam Newton, like Chuck Pagano, will enter the season as it stands in lame duck status which means he may not get his big deal until next year when we will be prepared to pay a QB a big salary. Adrian Peterson, although under contract, wants out of Minnesota and it would seem the Vikings at some point will have to listen to trade offers. Does it take next year’s first rounder? I don’t know but a team will step up and get a deal done for Peterson.

The Triumvirate as I described would have most people in shock. You have a guy who steps on people, Peterson and his baggage and Cam with how polarizing he is but if you just look at how all three play on Sunday and what the impact the three together would have on a team you would have to admit it would be intriguing, exciting and incredible and you know you’d be watching, yes you do. It’s grandiose, but possible and possible is exciting. Let me just say this has more to do with Cam’s fire than wanting to move Tannehill for the sake of moving him. This scenario is simply about uniting similar minded players because the opportunity appears to exist.

Have at me I’ll wear Kevlar and a helmet.

Suh, Cam & AP – Imagine that

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431 Responses to Another Big 3 in Miami?

  1. Al in MIA says:

    Anyone been able to get some intel on Nevada LB Brock Hekking? :/

  2. Al in MIA says:

    Who the hell knows what the Fins draft strategy will be but if they want to keep Misi in the middle then perhaps something like Jordan Hicks on the outside makes more sense in terms of LB strategy.

  3. Tim Knight says:

    Just remember that most of these LBs are smaller than Ellerbe and Wheeler and they weren’t big LBs.

    • dbolt48 says:


      Ellerbe fell apart

      Wheeler fell down…….a lot

    • The Flying Pig says:

      why is that such a concern to you?

      There are tons of Lbs on other teams that are lighter
      The fact is both wheeler and ellerbee sucked
      Ellerbee was never near the play and wheeler never finished a play when he was there

      we weren;t going anywhere with those two
      horrible signings by Ireland

      • Tim Knight says:

        I’ve said this over and over. It’s why I wouldn’t take them early. You think just because you saw them blowing guys up in college means that’s exactly what will happen in the NFL, I say be careful with that. They may become more solid players than special. So pick them accordingly.

  4. Al in MIA says:

    I wouldn’t mind a late RD flyer on Curtis Grant :/

  5. dbolt48 says:

    For Al:

    @JamesWalkerNFL: #Dolphins are scheduled to host former Michigan LB Jake Ryan for a pre-draft visit on April 2, according to a source. Miami needs LB depth.

  6. getterdone says:

    LB Taiwan Jones from Mich St. does get mentioned here. His recorded time is slow, but he’s got football quickness, good burst in initial 10 yards, is big, a thumper with long arms. He’s very durable and I think he played in every game over 4 years for the Sparty’s.

  7. Al in MIA says:


    This is one of the smallest (weight wise) top 10 ILB classes i’ve seen in a while.

    Lets use nfldraftscout’s top 10 rankings for example…

    for 2015 ILB, McKinney (Mississippi St) & Anthony (Clemson) are the only ones above 240 in the top 5. Jones (Michigan St) is the only other one above 240 in the top 10.

    Last year, 2014, 6 guys in the top 10 were > 240. 3 of top 5 > 240. Mosley was the top prospect at ILB at 236 but he stood 6-2.

    2013? 6 guys in the top 10 > 240. 4 of top 5 were > 240. Kiko Alonso was 238 but stood 6-3.
    2012? 8 guys in the top 10 > 240. 4 of top 5 were > 240. Mychal Kendricks came in as #3 rated ILB at 239 standing 5-11 but he at least ran a 4.44 sec 40 time (London Fletcher like).
    2011? 6 guys in the top 10 > 240. 3 of top 5 were > 240. Casey Matthews was rated 4th at 231 lbs and 6-1.
    2010? 6 guys in the top 10 > 240. 4 of top 5 were > 240. Sean Lee rated as 2nd best at 236 but stood 6-2.

  8. Al in MIA says:

    Fins probably lookin at him…they have taken some MIchigan guys in recent years …probably some scout up in that area pulling his weight…. Bj Cunningham, Dion Sims…. Fields was the best one so far on the current roster but he was Randy Meullers guy back in the day.

  9. Al in MIA says:

    Yep, you and I have discussed Ryan for a bit though….I have been talking about him in spots since Feb. I noticed him when I was watching highlight package of OSU/PSU O vs Michigan.

  10. Al in MIA says:

    LOL @ your Hekking info….

  11. Al in MIA says:

    “Eat this Dbolt”

    • Al in MIA says:

      Saw this on some interview he did back in Jan lol

      Scott Porter: Tell us about the story behind the hairdo?

      Brock Hekking: (laughing)- It started out as something fun but then it became a part of me. The people in Reno loved it and the school started marketing it so I went with it. Brian Bosworth (former NFL LB) inspired me but then I took off in my own direction with it.

    • Al in MIA says:

      Tannehill would like him I guess… lol

      Scott Porter: At what point in your life did you start to think you had a shot in the NFL?

      Brock Hekking: Honestly, I think it was after my sophomore year in college. I went into school as biology major with the intention of going to dental school once I graduated. After my sophomore season I had 8 sacks and a bunch of tackles for losses. My coach pulled me aside one day and talked to me and believed in me. After that I started to work even harder with the goal in my mind and I haven’t looked back.

      • steveccnv says:

        Now this kid has some talent, and a motor. I’d take a flyer on him with our 2nd 5th.

  12. Al in MIA says:

    Speaking of Nevada….
    GDP, what’s your take on their QB? Fajardo worth a late RD flyer or UDFA priority eh?

    • steveccnv says:

      He’d be an interesting pick, I was never that fond of him at Nevada, but he did pretty good with what he had to work with. I really never thought of him as an NFL player.

  13. Al in MIA says:

    OUt for now..take care everyone

  14. Rockphin says:

    Benardrick McKinney*, ILB/OLB, Mississippi State!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  15. Brian in NY says:

    Tim Knight says:
    March 27, 2015 at 2:45 pm
    Dbolt, Mike Hull is undersized too. That doesn’t mean he won’t pan out, but it’s hard to take undersized guys early on.
    Take a look at his tape Tim. I think Dbolt suggested taking him in the 4th round, which would be a good spot to take a shot on him. He is technically sound and has excellent instincts.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m not saying some of these LBs aren’t worthy of being 3rd and 4th rd picks. I don’t think this LB class is good at the top. A lot of questions with all of them. I think 3-5 is where most of them should go.

  16. Try Pod says:

    I’m all for equality, but when people pull shit like this, it pisses me off and hurts everyone who has been wronged:

    • Brian in NY says:

      That’s almost as bad as racism IMO.

      • dbolt48 says:

        I think it’s worse. Issues like this are why I doubt the majority of racism claims anymore. ITD once again a lack of accountability and it’s an easy out anymore to claim profiling. It is a sham like this that undermines legit cases.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Its blocked by my work

      • Try Pod says:

        The article basically says the dash cam film disproves any racial profiling took place, and in fact, the officer seems to have tried to help the boy.

      • Try Pod says:

        That was not well-worded:
        It does not appear the officer “racially profiled” the kid.

  17. dbolt48 says:

    @TonyPauline: Interesting Note: Miami Dolphins met with Zach Vigil/LB/Utah State yesterday prior to the Utah pro-day. Looking hard at MLB’s…

  18. son of a son of a shula says:

    Little Jonnelle martin is on his way to Carolina. (Cam gonna make him his bitch) Good thing Hardy is gone.

  19. getterdone says:

    Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
    “@iHeartMiko: Lemme find out @OmarKelly is sweet on JMart!?» NO. I just want to make sure he has every chance to success.

  20. Mike E. says:

    Pat Kirwan’s Live Mock Draft on NFL radio has the Miami Dolphins selecting . . . .

    West Virginia WR Kevin White!

    I’d be thrilled if it went down that way, but I don’t think it’s likely. It’s possible only one WR is taken top 13, and it’s also possible it’s Amari Cooper, but I have a feeling if Kevin White is still there around 10-13, some team may just move up to get him.

  21. Mike E. says:

    Your score is: 7776 (GRADE: A)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 14: Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama (A)
    Round 2 Pick 15: T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (A)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Davis Tull, OLB, Chattanooga (A)
    Round 5 Pick 13: MyCole Pruitt, TE, Southern Illinois (A)
    Round 5 Pick 14: Andy Gallik, C, Boston College (A)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Tyler Varga, FB, Yale (A)

    • Mike E. says:

      How You Matched Up:
      1. Miami Dolphins – 7776
      2. Washington Redskins – 7234
      3. Atlanta Falcons – 7060
      4. New York Jets – 6966
      5. Tennessee Titans – 6780

  22. getterdone says:

    That would be great if White is there…then the dilemma would be taking him or listening to about 4 different trade offers that call in for the pick @ #14….lol

  23. The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t think a team will trade up into 11-13 spots fur a WR based in the depth there

    The rams at 10 are a threat to take a WR but if one we want slides past them I bet they are available at 14

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Maybe the browns at 12

      I pretty sure he threats to take WR are
      3-6, 10 and 12

      And I’m pretty sure no more than 3 will go before 14

      Which is what makes the emergence of Perriman and the wildcard factor of DGB so interesting

      There are 6 WRs that teams might rank in a lot of different orders
      Dont assume Kevin White is 1 on everyone’s board
      I think cooper might be ahead if white on many boards

  24. son of a son of a shula says:

    1 Tampa Bay Jameis Winston** QB Florida State
    2 Tennessee Leonard Williams* DT USC
    3 Jacksonville Dante Fowler Jr.* DE Florida
    4 Oakland Kevin White WR West Virginia
    5 Washington Vic Beasley OLB Clemson
    6 NY Jets Marcus Mariota* QB Oregon
    7 Chicago Amari Cooper* WR Alabama
    8 Atlanta Bud Dupree DE Kentucky
    9 NY Giants Randy Gregory* OLB Nebraska
    10 St. Louis Brandon Scherff OT Iowa
    11 Minnesota Trae Waynes* CB Michigan State
    12 Cleveland Danny Shelton DT Washington
    13 New Orleans Shane Ray* OLB Missouri
    14 Miami DeVante Parker WR Louisville

    This is from and what they have right now. It seems to have all the right names maybe not the order but then you have to factor in how teams feel about a couple of Corners, Gurley, DGB, Perriman and a few others even like Armstead, Collins, Collins. Their will be a good player.



  25. son of a son of a shula says:

    Deonte Greenberry

  26. Brian in NY says:

    Your Grade: A+ (self-graded)
    14: R1P14
    47: R2P15
    114: R4P15
    149: R5P13
    150: R5P14
    191: R6P15

  27. Tim Knight says:

    I still wonder why people ignore Misi playing on a high ankle sprain from game 1 throughout the rest of the season in his first season at MLB somehow is a designation that he’s not a MLB.

    I guess we’ll see.

    • Mike E. says:

      I don’t ignore him, but I definitely do discount him. I think that’s fair. He’s not playmaker, and he’s never achieved 100 tackles, or really done anything special in his entire career. With his injury history, he’s tough to count on also. It’s just the way it is.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Bc he is always playing with an injury or not playing at all bc if an injury

  28. naplesfan2010 says:

    Here’s a thought for you greedy trade-down guys:

    Round 1 Pick ??: Eric Kendricks, ILB, UCLA or Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF in a trade down
    47 Round 2 Pick 15: AJ Cann, OG, South Carolina or Laken Tomlinson, OG, Duke
    Round 3 Pick ??: Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB, Oregon or Eric Rowe, CB, Utah from the trade down
    114 Round 4 Pick 15: Darren Waller, WR, Ga Tech or Ben Heeney, ILB (ST ace), Kansas
    149 Round 5 Pick 13: Clayton Geathers, SS, Central Florida or James Sample, SS, Louisville
    150 Round 5 Pick 14: Karlos Williams, RB, Florida State or Blake Bell, TE, Oklahoma
    191 Round 6 Pick 15: Brandon Bridge, QB, South Alabama

    UDFA — DeAndre Smelter, WR, GaTech

  29. naplesfan2010 says:

    or we play it straight as it is and go like this:
    14: Round 1 Pick 14: White, Cooper, Parker, Strong, DGB, WR, in that order whoever is there
    47: Round 2 Pick 15: Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson
    114: Round 4 Pick 15: Charles Gaines, CB, Louisville
    149: Round 5 Pick 13: Clayton Geathers, SS, Central Florida
    150: Round 5 Pick 14: Karlos Williams, RB, Florida State
    191: Round 6 Pick 15: Brandon Bridge, QB, South Alabama

    UDFA — DeAndre Smelter, WR, GaTech

  30. naplesfan2010 says:

    The thing is @ #14, I think we will get a star player unless we lose our minds and do something Raiderish with the pick, which I think is nearly impossible.

    • stangerx says:

      If by Raiderish you mean trade up, sure as heck hope we don’t. Would rather see us go the evil genius way and trade down, even if it includes future picks.

  31. finfanrob says:

    Mike E. says:
    March 27, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    You beat me!

    bet you hear that a lot

  32. naplesfan2010 says:

    Any of those WRs would be great, Trae or Scherff or even Gurley or Gordon will all be stars in the NFL. Then you have a little reach for Kendricks and the CB Collins as well. There is almost no way we to have a bad pick this year @ 14. DGB is probably the least sure thing above besides Gurley’s injury and DGB’s measurables are astronomically good. Just tell him Suh will eat him if he f’s up and that should work. Get him in the room with steady Jarvis and Jordan Cameron and way-cool but hard-working Kenny Stills and they’ll help keep him straight as well. I want that DGB guy maybe most of all at #14.

  33. Tim Knight says:

    Like I said, we’ll see on Misi. He was actually on pace for right around 100 tackles if he played in every game.

    Also if you think we’re finding our MLB in the draft, good luck. I don’t see it. Not saying it can’t happen but I don’t expect it. That’s why I was interested in David Harris because I don’t see it from this draft class.

  34. getterdone says:

    Oakland taking WR White? Oh I’d feel so bad for the boy. smh

    • steveccnv says:

      Why? Carr is going to be a pretty good QB, I think his career will sort of mirror Tannehills, 2 yrs behind.

  35. wyoming85 says:

    Not my Favorite!

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 7 (CHI): Brandon Scherff, OT/OG, Iowa (A)
    Round 4 Pick 22 (PITT): Mike Hull, ILB/OLB, Penn State (B+)
    Round 5 Pick 13: Lorenzo Doss, CB, Tulane (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 14: Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (B-)
    Round 5 Pick 26 (T.B.): Austin Hill, WR, Arizona (B-)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Ty Montgomery, WR, Stanford (A)

  36. Tim Knight says:

    Always hurt is a bit much but there is a group of fans who don’t see much value in Misi and tend to lean toward the negative with him.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      You just mentioned his ankle to justify lack of production

      This is Misi story

      What’s wrong withy drafts LBs to compete with Misi

      Our weakest unit is LB
      I don’t see what your apprehension. To drafting LBs is

      • Tim Knight says:

        When did I say don’t draft a LB? I’ve said all along we will (WR, OL, LB and DB). I think we should target one who we think has a good chance to compete this year. But I don’t expect anyone to unseat a healthy Misi on the depth chart in TC. That’s all.

        I’m not saying Misi is great, he’s solid. If he goes down someone else will have to play there and it might be Tripp.

  37. steveccnv says:

    So you’re posting stats to back your point, by showing he’s missed 12 games in 5 yrs. As long as you’re using stats… How many games did he play less than 20 snaps due to injury? How many games did he play more than 20, but had little impact due to playing injured?

  38. Tim Knight says:

    Oy! Okay… we’ll replace Misi with ? mark guy. I didn’t mean to get into defense mode about this. I’m really not in the mood and none of us know the outcome now anyway. I’m all about having great competition in camp and letting it play out. I’m just not counting him out. 🙂

  39. finfanrob says:

    wow, i cant believe tim is so defensive about drafting a lb to replace misi.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I know, this idea that I doubt that will happen with an average class of 4-3 LBs in this draft is just crazy talk. We’ll see what happens.

      I see DT, DE/OLB (edge rushers), CB, WR and RB pushing the LBs down. Not even counting QB, OL and some TEs.

      It’s not a great 4-3 LB class but I’m sure a few will pan out. My favorite is Kendricks (not necessarily at MLB), just don’t think he’s worthy at #14 on paper (he might be in 2-3 years just like Zach would have been worthy in the big scheme of things), but I don’t see him falling out of the 30s so after him I think there is a drop off.

      All this said, I’m not a scout. Just going by my research and seeing consistent reports on these guys. I don’t have a horse in this race. I hope whoever we land is most awesome. LOL

  40. wyoming85 says:

    Later Haters

  41. finfanrob says:


    i was just messing with ya. i really wasnt even following the convo, just saw your Oy! comment

  42. stangerx says:

    ‘”We’d like to be able to massage the board to acquire more picks to get more chances at players.’

    Wasn’t sure before, but seems Dennis Hickey actually has been reading all those e-mails I sent him.

  43. Ken says:

    Well I stopped by to see what I missed and I see Son was hitting the sauce again. JKLOL. I actually like Newton a lot. However, I don’t see Newton as a significant upgrade if an upgrade at all over Tannehill. Newton got off to a faster start in his career but I think Tannehill has now surpassed Newton as a pure passer. Newton is still an incredible physical specimen and the best dual threat QB in the game but he is not as good of a passer as Tannehill is imo and Tannehill is a very good runner but not as good as Newton is. So bottom line I don’t see a significant upgrade with the proposed move.

  44. Ken says:

    In terms of AP I too think we would be better served drafting instead of investing heavily in a 30 year RB who just missed a full season. I suppose if we thought AP was the missing piece to a SB season I could see making that trade now but I still think we are a couple of pieces away from that level of competition. I see us a playoff contender but not a SB contender. I think you don’t make that move unless you are a SB contender. Instead I would rather see us keep the draft choices we would blow on such a trade and get those missing pieces that make us a SB contender.

  45. Ken says:

    While I disagree with you on 2 out of the big 3 it was still an interesting and thought provoking piece. Thanks for contributing.

  46. son of a son of a shula says:

    Ken, i actually had been drinking before I wrote the article. A friend came over we had a hunk of meat on the grill and too many beers, smoked up. The idea came to me just as saw Cam is being left out in limbo as of yet on his contract. I love Cam for the way he competes I’m fine with Ryan. Its just a pie in the sky thing

    I appreciate everyones feedback we had some fun with it.

    If anyone did miss my earlier stat it’s Cam scoring an average of 28.75 TD’s per year and Ryan at 22.33333

    • Ken says:

      Newton’s rushing totals really do bolster those TD numbers but passing TD totals Tannehill is right there with Newton and is trending upward. I would go with the better passer over the better running QB imo.

  47. son of a son of a shula says:

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  48. The Flying Pig says:

    14: R1P14
    47: R2P15
    114: R4P15
    149: R5P13
    150: R5P14
    191: R6P15

  49. The Flying Pig says:

    14: R1P14
    47: R2P15
    114: R4P15
    149: R5P13
    150: R5P14
    191: R6P15

  50. son of a son of a shula says:

    One more Cam stat and it’s telling.
    Last December basically by himself, Cam 4-0.
    We scored 13 -16-13 to start the month, won with a safety and got demolished.

  51. Ken says:

    I am out. Peace to you all.

  52. son of a son of a shula says:

    To take a G in this draft and leave Perriman on the board is insanity. That’s the kind of shit that gets GM’s fired.

  53. The Flying Pig says:

    We don’t need no stinking defense draft

    14: R1P14
    47: R2P15
    114: R4P15
    149: R5P13
    150: R5P14
    191: R6P15

  54. The Flying Pig says:

    Suhs new buddies draft

    14: R1P14
    47: R2P15
    MIAMI (FLA.)
    114: R4P15
    149: R5P13
    150: R5P14
    191: R6P15
    MIAMI (FLA.)

  55. The Flying Pig says:

  56. naplesfan2010 says:

    I really like Eric Rowe at CB.

  57. Brian in NY says:

    Mike E. says:
    March 27, 2015 at 8:08 pm
    Exactly. If you wait for the Great Pumpkin, you will likely be disappointed.

  58. Brian in NY says:

    I’d like to see TIm change his avitar to Misi.

  59. Ken says:

    son of a son of a shula says:
    March 27, 2015 at 11:13 pm (Edit)
    To take a G in this draft and leave Perriman on the board is insanity. That’s the kind of shit that gets GM’s fired.
    Actually I think taking a guy like Perriman who flashed at his pro day with a fancy number over a 3 year starter from a major college, even if he is an OG is that kind of thing that gets GM’s fired.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      LOL@ flashed at his pro-day as if that’s all he’s done. Give me a little credit will ya.

      • Ken says:

        Prior to his pro-day he was not even mentioned in the same paragraph not mention sentence as 1st round. I had seen him projected as low as round 4 and as high as round 2. He flashed at h is pro-day and now people are talking late round 1.

  60. dbolt48 says:

    @JaysonBraddock: Eric Rowe says the toughest WR match up for him this year was Nelson Agholor. Played Devin Funchess, Jaelen Strong, Ty Montgomery etc

    • Brian in NY says:

      Us not having that 3rd rounder hurts when thinking about drafting someone like him.

      • Ken says:

        Yes but having Kenny Stills is probably worth that 3rd rounder. He will probably have a bigger impact this year than anyone we draft in the 3rd round. Plus he is young and ascending. That trade was one of my favorite moves of the off season.

      • dbolt48 says:

        He’s 2nd borderline 1st prospect. That’s why I’ve been saying he’s probably higher on most teams boards, especially Miami’s, than someone like Strong or even Parker. If your a team seeking Amare Coopers skillset then Agholor might be your #2 or #3 behind him.

    • Brian in NY says:

      I thought he was closer to a third. Maybe we grab him in the 2nd then if he’s still there, presuming we don’t take a WR at 14.

  61. Brian in NY says:

    I agree with that Ken, I’m just greedy with draft picks!

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Well it sucks that we had to use a pick to get our speedy receiver when we already had one, teammate bullshit aside we used a pick to change a personality. So that part sucks but hopefully its better for the team going forward.

      • Ken says:

        It would have been interesting if we could have kept Wallace and Stills but I guess the FO had enough of Wallace’s attitude.

      • Brian in NY says:

        I agree. I guess there was more going on behind the scenes that we were aware of, or this staff just has a low tolerance for that sort of behavior.

      • dbolt48 says:

        It’s obvious that Wallaces not only burned bridges, but detonated a bomb under them also. I had heard through the grapevine last month that two of our prominent defensive starters were out at a club in SanFran, these guys are still on the team, had some very strong opinions of Wallace. Contrary to what Miko tries to convey on Twitter that Wallace had his teammates backing it was quite contrary. These 2 defensive players literally still wanted to beat the holy hell out of him. These players both arrived in the 2010 draft. One is known for being soft spoken, but punched through someone’s door who was talking shit to his GF. The other played at a pro bowl level this year, but was ineligible serving a PED suspension.

  62. Ken says:

    Breakfast is over. Gotta run. Peace.

  63. son of a son of a shula says:

    Ken says:
    March 28, 2015 at 8:29 am (Edit)
    Prior to his pro-day he was not even mentioned in the same paragraph not mention sentence as 1st round. I had seen him projected as low as round 4 and as high as round 2. He flashed at h is pro-day and now people are talking late round 1.
    To you. I’ve known all along he was right with the rest of the class. I watch UCF every week either at the game or on TV. You guys started the same crap with Bortles last year. If it were up to this board Bortles would have been a second rounder, but the pros made him the third pick.
    BTW, he didn’t just Flash – He WAS Flash.

    • Ken says:

      I actually think Bortles is hurting Perriman’s draft stock. I think the consensus is that Bortles was over drafted and not pro ready. He was clearly out performed by both Bridgewater and Carr. I think the jury is still out on whether or not Bortles makes it or not. I am not saying this too bash your guy, and actually I kind of like Bortles but based on last year he was clearly no. 3 of the rookie QBs. Sorry to post and run but I am out.

  64. Mike E. says:

    Perriman at #14?

    Maybe, but that is so far from a lock pick, especially if Kevin White or Amari Cooper are there too. Even if they aren’t there, I think he’s a borderline 1st RD guy, probably a 2nd RD pick.

  65. son of a son of a shula says:

    Photo still of Perriman during his 40:

  66. dbolt48 says:

    Alls I know about Perriman is those questioning his hands are full of shit. Kid makes tough catches on bad throws constantly. Kid still needs to refine his game just like any prospect, but I wouldn’t complain one iota if he was the pick at 14.

  67. Mike E. says:

    Alls I know is no one questions my hands

  68. son of a son of a shula says:

    Misi and Jones

  69. son of a son of a shula says:

    Trypod, not the Hall & Oates version either. Billy Preston did a great version of it.

  70. Try Pod says:

    What a week. I was in shorts on Wednesday, nearly 80°, yesterday it was flurry-ing and this morning I woke up to 25°.

  71. steveccnv says:

    Dbolt, what do you say to those experts that say Perriman was the #3 WR on his own team?

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      I won’t speak for Dbolt but I’ll answer as if you asked me.

      First I’d laugh at the notion that those are experts. Second they shouldn’t continue to infer that they are experts.
      The other two receivers would have to be Rannell Hall and JJ Wharton two guys who had real nice careers here at UCF. UCF liked to get the ball to Hall as a slot receiver and on out routes when he was outside, he was a nice part of the offense.
      JJ Wharton never established himself as a starter but he did play a lot of valuable minutes and was a great clutch player. He returned punts and did a lot of the unheralded work from the receiver position.
      Neither of these guys can compare size wise or speed wise to Perriman. Perriman was the big dog, the guy UCF would look to get the offense going with.
      Hall and Wharton will likely go undrafted. Wharton has been very limited in the pre-draft run up as he nurses an injury. And compared to the rest of the WR class in the draft Hall is just another guy nothing special stands out, such as size or speed or other intangibles although he could become a decent pro. Wharton is Hartline but a little bigger and without the buck teeth.
      If I were you I’d find other experts.

      • steveccnv says:

        I thought of you too when asking Dbolt, he just posted later on the subject. I really don’t know much about Perriman other than his recent pro day 40 time, so I appreciate your feedback. Hearing he was maybe the 3rd best WR on his team was concerning, thanks for putting that to rest, and yes I do value your opinion on this subject, as I do with Dbolt’s (he seems to be the Randy of draft prospects).

        I had other concerns about Perriman, I’m going to watch some video to see what those concerns were.

  72. Tim Knight says:

    I guess it’s typical pre-draft talk but Hickey was open about wanting to add more picks in an article on the SS.

    • steveccnv says:

      By adding more picks I would think he would have to trade back in the first, no? I’d be open to moving back 5 to 10 picks in the first, to get a second or a third, but it would matter who was on the board. I’d also like the trade down to take Kendricks later in the 1st.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I would think trading back in the 1st would be the way to do that. Not sure what his plans are, just reporting that he said that.

        I wouldn’t mind seeing us land Kendricks somehow.

      • steveccnv says:

        I have a hard time believing anything said this time of year, by anyone in the media or team, about what direction they might go in.

  73. Mike E. says:


    Realistically, when do you think Perriman comes off the board?

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      I would not be surprised to see Jax at 3 wanting to pair him back with Bortles. But I don’t think that is the most realistic spot but I see a first rounder, earlier than later.

      • Mike E. says:

        I see him as a late 1st RD, early 2nd RD, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he went earlier due to his pro day.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        He got left behind since he didn’t go to the combine. Every team had a rep at the Pro Day with Belichick being the only HC to go.
        Belichick was right down the street, I should have went and fucked with him. Throw him an uninflated ball and shit, lol.

  74. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, I agree and that’s why I said it’s probably just pre-draft talk.

  75. steveccnv says:

    When I watch Perriman on tape I really don’t see his 4.2 speed, before knowing how fast he ran I was thinking 4.45, but because of his size he doesn’t seem like he’s going that fast. Me likes. I’d trade back in the first to take either Kendricks or Perriman as my #1 goal for this draft.

  76. Mike E. says:


    Rumors are swirling we’re dangling Misi for a 1st and 3rd RD picks, so that might be it.

    • steveccnv says:

      Misi couldn’t garner 1st or a 3rd in a pick up game of flag football ;P I do like Misi as a complimentary part of our D though, just not as a star, and I want an MLB that can put up 160 tackles per yr (that’s what I’d expect out of a very good MLB playing behind Suh).

      • Mike E. says:

        I hear ya. 160 is an awful lot, but I’d love a tackling machine as well, but I’d love a playmaking tackling machine, a guy who forces fumbles and can make things happen out there. A guy the opposing offense has to worry about. Our current LB corps lacks that.

  77. Mike E. says:

    LMAO @ Son! As long as you nailed him with the underinflated football, I’d love it!

  78. Brian in NY says:

    steveccnv says:
    March 28, 2015 at 12:15 pm
    I have a hard time believing anything said this time of year, by anyone in the media or team, about what direction they might go in.
    I tend to agree Steve, but Hickey was quoted as saying that he would love to move down a little to pick up extra picks, but it’s easier said thatn done.

  79. Brian in NY says:

    Hickey :
    “We’d like to be able to massage the board to acquire more picks to get more chances at players,” Hickey said. “It always takes two. I would trade down, but it has to present itself. There have been many times when you want to trade down and the phone never rings. You’re always prepared to trade up, or trade down.”

  80. Mike E. says:

    Bri – Have you watched any Mets games this spring?

    • Brian in NY says:

      Zero. I usually don’t watch the spring training games, and I’ve been really busy lately with work and the family. You?

  81. Tim Knight says:

    Mike E, Jenkins had 110 tackles, 3.5 sacks (one for a safety) and 2 FF. He showed he’s a playmaker.

  82. Brian in NY says:

    We’re supposed to get 1-3 inches here today. I thought we were done with this snow!

  83. Mike E. says:


    I’ve watched a couple. They’ve been exciting. They’re hitting like crazy, but they better save some of that for the regular season. I like what I’ve seen so far though.

    • Brian in NY says:

      I’ve looked at the boxscores, but they are going to need to hit a hell of a lot better this year than last if they are going to compete for a WC spot. The pitching looks promising, but the Wheeler injury hurts. I can’t beleive we’ve had 4 guys go down in the past two seasons and need TJ surgery.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Wright, Granderson and Duda need to have big years.

      • Mike E. says:

        It sucks, but we have plenty of pitching. We still have Monteiro, Familia, Syndergaard and Matz in addition to the regular guys in the rotation. That’s one thing we have plenty of.

      • Brian in NY says:

        Yeah, Duda had a good year last year. They moved the fences in again this year so hopefully that will help.

  84. Mike E. says:


    Wright looks rejuvenated. I think he’s happy Cuddyer is here, and Cuddyer and Granderson are hitting well this spring. We need them to stay healthy and continue to hit.

  85. rgs322 says:

    Here’s a Hickey trade down draft…

    Round 2 Pick 2 (T.B.): Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 6 (WASH): Byron Jones, CB, Connecticut (B)
    Round 2 Pick 15: Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (B)
    Round 3 Pick 1 (T.B.): Clive Walford, TE, Miami (Fla.) (A)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (A)
    Round 5 Pick 13: Cameron Artis-Payne, RB, Auburn (A)
    Round 5 Pick 14: Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (B-)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Hayes Pullard, ILB, Southern California (B)

    Note: La’el Collins and Brandon Scherff were both off the board, so I traded 14th pick to TB for their 2nd (33rd) and 3rd (65th) plus another 2nd (37th) from a previous trade they made with Washington.

  86. Brian in NY says:

    Round 1 Pick 22 (PITT): Landon Collins, SS, Alabama (A)
    Round 2 Pick 15: Benardrick McKinney, ILB, Mississippi State (A)
    Round 2 Pick 20 (PHI): Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (A)
    Round 2 Pick 24 (PITT): Tre’ Jackson, OG, Florida State (B+)
    Round 4 Pick 14 (PHI): Eric Rowe, CB/FS, Utah (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Jamison Crowder, WR, Duke (C+)
    Round 5 Pick 13: Jake Ryan, OLB/ILB, Michigan (C-)
    Round 5 Pick 14: Sean Hickey, OT, Syracuse (C+)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Shaquille Riddick, DE/OLB, West Virginia (B)

    • Brian in NY says:

      I don’t like doing the trade downs becasue they are so unrealistic, but I can’t help myself on this site.

      • stangerx says:

        LOL — but who are those guys so willing to do trade-ups? My guess is they just want the biggest names they can get.

      • Brian in NY says:

        Who knows, that’s why it’s so unrelaistic. Phiily came up to 14 and then Pitt to 20. You basically have a trade down scenario every pick!

      • stangerx says:

        If only those were the real GMs…….would be nice to trade #14 for six picks in the 2nd.

  87. The Flying Pig says:

    Lot o Perriman love in this blog lately
    I have a feeling he is moving up the boards of many NFL teams as well

  88. stangerx says:

    “NFL draft: April 30-May 2: 2015 NFL Draft, Chicago, Illinois.”

    Just matched up the draft dates with a trip I’m going on…..worst news of the day. Leaving May 1 and coming back May 2. Will catch the first round night before, but will be in the air or busy most of the 2nd and 3rd day.

    What an ironic payback it would be if I get my wish and we don’t pick till the 2nd day. 🙂

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      I can give you up to the minute texts if you want! But what a drag, sorry for you.

      I don’t want us to get out of the first round, we should be able to get a real good player at 14 and an even better one if we move up!

      • stangerx says:

        I was just putting out the “how could it get worse scenario”…….but I’d take low first, a mid 2nd, and replacing that traded away third right now.

  89. The Flying Pig says:

    Piggy’s 2015 Seven Samurai:

    Kevin White
    Amaro Cooper
    DeVante Parker
    Jaelen Strong
    Breshad Perriman
    Dorial Green-Beckham
    Nelson Angholor

    No specific order
    It was a tough call between Angholor and Funchness
    But Angholor seems to be a more complete receiver

  90. Mike E. says:

    I agree that there has to be a pig picture for everything . . . . . The Oinkining is coming . . . .

  91. The Flying Pig says:

  92. The Flying Pig says:

    If you ever doubted that there was a pig pic for everything

    I give you the above pic to shatter your doubt

  93. dbolt48 says:

    steveccnv says:
    March 28, 2015 at 11:37 am
    Dbolt, what do you say to those experts that say Perriman was the #3 WR on his own team?
    Sorry for the late response Steve….in regards to the experts saying he was the number 3……Id say they are full of #2. Perriman was the clutch guy who they’d go to when they needed to make a play. QB play for UCF wasn’t great this year and it affected Perriman’s catch rate. A lot of these “experts” make plenty of lazy generalizations. Daniel Jeremiah is one of the worst. Go back and watch some of Perriman’s tape. You see a corner who runs a 4.4 get completely blown away by Perriman’s speed after the catch. Perriman is a physical anomaly.

    • steveccnv says:

      I’m also hearing his hands aren’t that great, but they say you can teach him how to catch, and his route running isn’t very good.

    • Brian in NY says:

      Funny thing is, Daniel Jeremiah was a scout. Guess that’s why he is on TV now.

  94. finfanrob says:

    ‘Just matched up the draft dates with a trip I’m going on’


    rumor is there is this flying pig. i bet he could pick you up, strap you on, and fly you to a tv so you dont miss a thing. well that is if you believe in flying pigs

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