I think it’s very fair to say Lamar Miller is under appreciated here. Lamar Miller has been with the Dolphins for 3 years, and in those 3 years, he only has 444 rushing attempts. He has a 4.6 YPC average overall, but last year, Lamar averaged 5.1 per rush, with a season high for him 216 carries and 1099 yards. Miller also had 38 receptions for 275 yards, giving Miller a nice total of 1374 yards from scrimmage, with 8 rushing TD’s, and 1 receiving TD.
Guess what! The last RB in an aqua,orange and white uni to rush for over 1000 yards was Reggie Bush in 2011 with exactly the same amount of carries as Miller, 2 less rushing TD’s. Bush had a 43 receptions for 296 yards and 1 TD, for a total of 1382 yards from scrimmage. Remarkably similar production from these 2 backs, and I think Miller is on the rise, definitely trending upward.
Lamar Miller hopes for more catches and broken tackles
By Reginald James, Dolphins Correspondent, Fri, Apr 3rd 3:38am EDT
After spending time in the film room, Lamar Miller came to the conclusion that he didn’t catch enough passes, and that he needed to break more tackles. This offseason he has put on seven pounds of muscle, and now weighs 225 pounds. Miller has been training with the Jugs machine, and has sought to improve his technique by working with fellow Cane, Andre Johnson. He has also been working with his own QB, Ryan Tannehill, and the Miami receivers.
Miller is a quality guy. He’s a 24 year old RB with not a lot of mileage on his legs, along with the fact that he obviously is looking to improve, and is working hard towards that goal.
Behind Miller on the depth chart, at least at the moment, is 2nd year RB Damien Williams. Williams saw limited action, at least until the end of the season. Williams finished with 122 yards on 36 carries, for a 3.4 YPC average. He was more involved as a receiver, catching 21 passes for 187 yards, and 1 TD. I think Williams showed he’s a dependable receiver out of the backfield at the least, and possibly a decent change of pace back.
LaMichael James is next on the depth chart. James was drafted in 2012 by the SF 49ers #61 in the 2nd RD. James has 4.45 speed, and a lot of wiggle. He was unable to get significant playing time with Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter in 2012 logging in only 27 carries for 125 yards and a 4.6 YPC average. James was primarily used a punt returner, and averaged a decent 10.9 yards per return. He’s obviously a talented back, but hasn’t been able to show in the NFL why he was worthy of being drafted #61 overall in 2012. Hopefully he’ll surprise us this year.
Last on the depth is Mike Gillsilee, our 5th RD draft pick in 2013, 164th overall. Gillslee, like James hasn’t really had a chance to show what he can do on the NFL level, and last year, he was on IR.
So as of now, behind Lamar Miller, we have a fair amount of question marks, although there is definitely talent back there. Williams definitely made things happen in the passing game, and I expect more from him this year. I also expect LaMichael James to be given ample opportunity to make the team. Gillislee has his work cut out for him, because I’m sure if we don’t draft a RB, which even if we do, it will likely be in the later RD’s, we will bring in some undrafted free agents he will have to pass, and Damien Williams, (2014 UDFA) already has passed Gillislee on the depth chart. He will have to have a strong camp and preseason to make the roster.
Is there a chance we draft a RB earlier than the later RD’s, or maybe just pick up some UDFA’s? Sure there is. Is there a chance we make a big splash and land Todd Gurley, arguably the most talented RB in this draft (when healthy)? Sure, but I’m not expecting that to happen, not with holes on the OL, CB, LB, WR and S. Not that Gurley wouldn’t change the entire complexion of our offense, he would, but IMO, you still need the horses up front to get it done right. We still have protection issues, and when Albert was injured, our run game regressed significantly as well. We can’t afford that, and I also think it would be foolish to expect Branden Albert to be completely recovered, healthy, and ready to start game 1, if even the first 4 games, after tearing both his ACL and MCL in his right knee. That’s why I think it’s essential that we address the O-line with a player that can both be starter at OT/OG. That’s a lot to ask, and despite what some people think, those guys aren’t usually found past the 1st and 2nd RD. I know you’ve heard it 100X if not more, but the Dallas Cowboys fixed their O-line by drafting Zack Martin last year at #14, and he completely solidified that O-line. DeMarco Murray was never better than last year. On many runs he wasn’t touched until he was 5 yards downfield.
We need to run the ball well, and we need to protect Tanny a lot better than we did last year. Obviously the answer doesn’t lie in FA, although there will be FA after the draft, and if a couple of guys that are available now, like OG’s Stefen Wisniewski, Justin Blalock, and C Chris Myers, and OT’s Anthony Collins, these players will probably have their phones ringing after the draft is over, and teams that were unable to fill spots on the O-line adequately via the draft will be calling. Honestly, I hope we’re not one of those teams, but in Hickenbaum We Trust!
Just to let you know I’m the other one that picked Kendrick’s to the Fins! 🙂
Tim Knight says:
April 6, 2015 at 2:04 pm
The position listings are not always correct, they listed Don Jones as a CB his first few years. I also don’t think D. Jones or Kovacs are ahead of Aikens and Gary is likely a long shot. This is just my opinion but don’t be surprised if it’s right. LOL
The website depth chart and roster is drafted up by staffers (not coaches).
They don’t go to the coaches and go “hey i need your list of player with positions! so i can go upload it to the website!”.
These people putting it together just google shit like everyone else and hope for the best.
They eventually get close to being accurate as the season goes on. I’ve seen changes made that reflect position and accurate measureables.
Completely OT — but this ain’t photo shopped. Would be a pretty cool pet.
I’ll need a bigger Pit!
LOL — but good luck catching him Elmer Fudd. 🙂
Stanger’s photo reminded me of this:
Frequency of miracles chart:
I guess I can’t get the image to post. It’s kinda entertaining. Safe for work.
Does it have to be a .jpg or a .gif? Does a .png work?
Yeah I believe is has to be a .jpg or .gif and maybe a .png.
To add to Jahn’s point earlier on RB carries for Miller; there is evidence that RB production regresses in the following season when a player carries the ball over 300 times in a season (300/16=18.75). Going with a 2 headed attack is the way to go; especially in a WCO or open offense which spreads out the targets. Seahawks & Niners run more of a power run game than WCO concepts. You look at NE, NOLA, & GB offenses and they haven’t put any back over 300 carries in any of the last 5 years (that’s all i bothered looking up). Lacey had the most carries in a season over the last 5 for GB and that was 284 in 2013. Ridley had the most carries in a season for NE in the last 5 years in the 2012 season with 290 carries. NOLA hasn’t had anyone go over 226 carries in the last 5 years (Ingram this past season ran with it 226 times). The most any back carried the rock in a season the last 5 years in GB? 284 times by Lacey in 2013. No back other than Ryan Grant in 2009 has gotten more than 250 carries in the season over the last 5 years in GB. NE & NOLA both have had multiple seasons over the last 5 years where no back crossed the 200 carry mark. NE last year didn’t have 1 back go over 100 carries during the season. Hell, the last time NOLA was very good as a team (13-3 in 2011) the leading rusher was Ingram with 122 carries on the year. Pierre Thomas, Sproles, & Ivory were in a good rotation.
Very interesting. Thanks for the research.
Good stuff, I’d like to see Miller get in the 250-260 range. More consistency utilizing him and a few more touches per game. He’s got the ability to get big chunks of yards and I think we should give him more opportunities to do so.
April 6, 2015 at 5:04 pm
LOL — but good luck catching him Elmer Fudd. 🙂
I’ve never had a shotgun shoot around a corner back at myself!
LMAO — but those rabbits are wraskley……you never know what they’ll do.
I think bugs was a little light in the shorts!
(Not that there is anything wrong with that)
LOL — and sad part is kids these days would be, “who is this Bugs guy.”
Great minds Wyo, Great minds.
Why great minds? As much chance for the opposite 😉
What’s up FUers? Nice write up Mike E. I am high on Miller right now and not the beer. I think he is a quality RB and is a legit no. 1 back.
I keep seeing over and over that we still need a safety, why?
Quality @ the position!
You don’t like Jones and Delmas?
Jahn — this ain’t Weekly World News Stuff. Check out Fleming Rabbit. They are big.
That’s a huge monster with razor sharp fangs I tell you.
That’s Alice in Wonderland type stuff right there.
I was thinking more Holy Grail type of stuff.
that dog is stuck in the friend zone
probably gonna be humping the coach tonight
Stanger, I was going to post the rabbit article earlier. Then got distracted. Cool stuff.
It would be funny seeing a hawk say oh look, a rabbit. As it descends to pounce the rabbit doesn’t get small enough and its like WTF?!!!! Abort!!! Abort!!! Pull Up!!! LOL
LMAO —- it would be like Jaws…….gonna need a bigger boat.
I expect us to have a two or three headed rushing attack. On the other hand, if Miller is running well, i don’t see why he can’t get 20 or more carries in a game. I also think he has been underutilized, as the run game itself has been underutilized.
That’s one vewy scwewy wabbit! It’s HUGE!!!
Looks like the 49ers are taking Kendricks…just one pick after us….lol
It’s directly related to Willis and Borland retiring. Classic need pick. If he was good enough for the 49ers he was good enough for us. If we’re following most of the draft site rankings for all prospects this is the biggest blunder thus far.
I still say 49ers have more of a need than we do. They have 2 starting LB’s to replace.
LETS GO METS!!!! Break up the no-no with a 2 run double by Lucas Duda! Yeah baby!!!
Nice! Colon has only allowed 2 hits and 1 run through 5.
If the Niners are really interested in Kendricks they will have to trade up ahead of Miami perhaps. Who’s a trade partner in front of Miami? Maybe the Rams I guess if they want OL.
Trades within the division don’t normally happen.
the Texans are on the clock
Mike E, but not many of us are picking prospects listed in the late 20s and even 30s like Kendricks top 15. That’s where Kendricks is ranked just about everywhere. So this was the biggest jump even if he pans out as worthy of the pick. That’s all I’m saying.
I agree with that.
Catch you folks later.
Tim left, but when you get back Tim, I just want you to know I’m posting an alternative view to the website listings we use. You mentioned the 9er selection as a “blunder” but Bill Polian said last week on the radio:
“The so-called experts that put out rankings and mock drafts out there are peddling nothing short of fiction. That might sound harsh, but I can tell you with 100% certainty that’s what it is.”
I wrote it down when he said it because it was such a strong statement. He went on to say that as an exercise for a couple of years they put together a “consensus” draft board using these predictions and found that they were very much uncorrelated with actual draft results. The top 18 (I thought 18 was a weird number but he cited it several times) players or so are easy to list, but below that it’s just guesswork.
That last bit is paraphrased because I don’t want to be misquoting him, but I don’t put too much stock into the idea that we mocked Hendricks in the mid-1st even if most mock drafts put him at 30.
It’s not an indictment on anything or anyone, but it’s Polian’s point of view and I just wanted to share it. To me the only correlation in the rankings is that the top 15 players in college football who are entering the draft do tend to be the top players selected in the draft, but A player going 15th instead of 30th isn’t the same as a player going 1st instead of 15th.
These guys have nothing on most educated football fans. The team needs are easily identified, and then it’s purely researching the top prospects at each position and matching them up with the areas of need. Of course there are a few curveballs thrown in, but that’s with any situation. Great quote- thanks for sharing.
Hey Stanger, I didn’t doubt the rabbit was real, I just saw your mention of photoshop and thought of that “miracle” chart. 🙂
Cool — long as you are believing me, I also saw this. 🙂
Watching the Met game? 3-1 Mets!
Hell yeah! Let’s go Mets!
Colon was very impressive. He’s a real pro. Scherzer pitched great too, just a momentary lapse of concentration, and another error by Ian Desmond betrayed him.
Yes. Colon is an innings eater. Now we just have to hope this bullpen can put it together this year.
On the subject of draft day RB, what’s everyones take on South Carolina’s Mike Davis?
He’s Gore like in his frame 5′-9″ 217 lbs (exactly what Gore came into the NFL at).
This was captured around the combine:
02/19/15 – 2015 NFL Combine Quick Hits: South Carolina RB Mike Davis said he was 225-plus pounds during the season, but that he feels “a lot” better at 217, his current weight here at the NFL Combine. – Dane Brugler, NFLDraftScout.com
I like him, but something about last year and how inconsistent he was kinda worries me. Its not that i dont think he will turn out to be a good back, im just not convinced as i would have been last year that he is a 2nd round kinda guy. If he lasts until our 4th round pick probably a good deal there.
Is his head as big as Gore’s, you might think I’m trying to be funny, but I’m serious?
Look into Rory Anderson and Corey Robinson, also good talent from South Carolina , Robinson has really dropped in the polls, similar to how Antonio Richardson did last year. Rory Anderson was in the wrong system and has a lot more talent than his stats show. They both also were reasons Davis looked good.
If the Niners want Kendricks, they can trade with us, we’ll gladly move back a few.
A few? lol, they pick at #15.
That would be an awesome trade for us!
We will take their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th and 7th
They can keep their 5th but I want their 1st in 2016 too
Nice win today against the Nats. METS 3 NATS 1
Nice! I believe the Mets have one of the best opening day records if not the best. But to do it against the Nationals who give us fits is sweet. Colon pitched a nice game and the bullpen closed it with 9 outs. Good sign at least for today. LOL
Yeah, i think they do. They showed it earlier during the game, something 35-18
Make that 33-21.
That’s what they said at the end of the game today.
Looks pretty tight with the texans
They have a few OL votes, some WR votes and Gurley votes
I think 4 votes will win it
Jahn, I have to say that the rankings, not mock drafts usually hold true for the most part in the 1st round and then it starts to veer off a bit. I don’t want to come off as Kendricks bashing because I like the kid and would like him on our team. But if it’s that way for Kendricks, then it’s like that for any of the prospects listed in that range and I read all the time here he won’t go that high when discussing other prospects. That’s all I’m saying.
Example being why not Brett Perriman instead of Waynes? I stayed away from taking guys too far ahead of where most have them going and he’s in the same range as Kendricks.
Where did everyone go?
Am I the only one sorry Kentucky ain’t playing tonight? Didn’t have a pony in the show, but the perfect season thing for sure would have made it more interesting. Right now I’m left with hoping the K Man doesn’t get one more……and I don’t have much against him to start with.
YOUNG STANGER; Did you say “Perfect Season?? –Read below. please.
LOL OD — there can be more than one of those, but not this year in NCAA ball at least. Hope both you and the lucky coin feel better and that we beat the Jets tmrw. 🙂
Mrs. OD and I are taking turns hacking our brains out. This bug has a killer cough! –Looks like I’ll take my first full sick day tomorrow this year.
But we are NEVER TOO SICK to enjoy a Jets/Dolphins game from the historic Orange Bowl!!! – – Game # 10 of the PERFECT SEASON was the most intense, the most raucous, game of the regular season!!!! – – The old saying in this bitter series is “the BEST hits were in the STANDS!!” –While the players disliked the “other team,” the fans of Miami and New York truly despised each other!! What are the details of the vile hatred Jets and Dolphin fans had for each other? –And what about the long standing feud between Morrall and Namath??
This game lived up to the hype, and that’s SAYING A LOT!! –Demand for press passes was the highest in history for a regular season game. It seemed as though the earth stood still for about three hours as millions watched this epic back and forth game that was loaded with big plays and excruciating injuries, especially for the Jets. New York led this game by 10 points in the second quarter. It seemed like the Perfect Season was going down the tubes. Images of obnoxious Jet fans prancing around the sacred Orange Bowl danced in my mind.
OF COURSE a HERO scored the winning touchdown! –But WHO was that Hero? –The Old Dolfan will put you square in the middle of absolute mayhem. TTHIS proved to be one of the greatest games ever played in the historic Orange Bowl. –Could our beloved Dolphins keep the dream alive??
Read all about it tomorrow!!
Just getting over it myself. Could have been worse my wife had the stomach virus. I will take bronchitis any day instead. Hope you and Mrs OD feel better.
Maybe a full dose of ABSOLUTE PERFECTION will help.
I think a full dose of Absolut will help
KEN: You can’t kill this bug with booze. I’ve tried.
Not sure how this site could be wrong. I did see the record you mentioned, I was off one win, but check this out. Shows every single opening day game, so maybe they made a mistake today, not sure.
I get ya. In regards to Perriman specifically, the difference between him and Kendricks is one of them earned that ranking status via 40 times from a pro-day, the other’s status has nothing to do with workouts. It’ll be interesting to see how it all pans out though. WRs tend to do a lot for themselves with fast 40 times.
OD, Ken, Mrs. Ken, and Mrs. OD: +vibes! Get well!
Thank you Jahn
Thank you young man. “Enjoy the show” tomorrow!!
Perriman was a late 1st/2nd pick all along. Most feel his 40 time got him closer to the 20s than 2nd is all. I saw Kendricks jump up after the combine not just because of his numbers, but he impressed teams with his character and it matched his film, he was 3rd round everywhere I looked when I was looking at LBs in Jan./Feb. I liked him as a 3rd because of that in some early mocks I did (not from a site, but from rankings and research).
Ditto on everyone getting well on the bog who are dealing with being sick.
I thought he was ranked round 2-3 before that pro-day, but anyway…
Ken, glad you guys are on the mend. It sucks getting sick like that.
It’s been a rough couple of weeks between illness, family issues and some other unexpected stuff. I could use a restart on a few things right about now. At least the bronchitis is getting better.
This delaying of the draft is really annoying. I am ready for it now. This dead time is driving me crazy.
Man, it’s hard finishing the undefeated feat. Kentucky players and fans acted like asses but the reality is Wisconsin earned it. That’s sport and competition. That’s what this is all about, not projected milestones. That’s why they play the games.
I went to some local shops the day after Kentucky lost. Gone were the shirts proclaiming “40-0 Undefeated”, and in there place we’re shirts proclaiming 31-0 Regular Season”. Buncha douches.
Full disclosure- my wife, her father, her grandfather and various other relatives all went to UK. My wife and her father both did their undergrads @ UK and both prefer UL to UK.
I’m ready to close the aTexans poll but its a tie between Gurley and Flowers
Some one who hasn’t voted, please break the tie
LOL…voted for Jaelen Strong right before I read this. Thought you’d be happy with that. 😛
I voted for Alvin Dupree because they’re looking for 3-4 OLBs and guarding against Clowney not being ready or the same.
Flowers just won with 3 votes
You’re welcome, though I still think Spunky should have already been picked.
Spunky is Flowers secret name
I don’t think the texans need OL at the top. They allowed 26 sacks with no set QB, and rushed for almost 2,200 yards. Unless they lost OL I’m not aware of. Most of their OL was drafted 3-7 and coached up by John Benton over the years. That’s what we’re trying to do here with our own players.
LT Albert – UFA (former 1st 2008)
LG Thomas – 3rd (2013)
C Pouncey – 1st (2011)
RG Turner – 3rd (2014)
RT James – 1st (2014)
It takes some time but now is the time to get this group going – of course if Albert is ready sooner than later.
Thomas or Turner have to step up, otherwise we are in trouble.
The Chargers are on the clock
That’s what I get for doing chores!
Screwed out of my vote!
Now you can vote for the Chargers
I like Jones a lot!
I like Delmas when HEALTHY!
The rest are not proven!
The O-liners wasted no time jumping on San Diego who i think went Oline for the last 2 or 3 years
I don’t know shit about the other teams!
So I use this cheat sheet!
Nevermind only once two years ago with Fluka
Updated mocks from CBSSports. They are all over the map:
Dorial Green-Beckham WR | Oklahoma
Todd Gurley RB | Georgia
Trae Waynes CB | Michigan State
Jaelen Strong WR/ Arizona State
Brian, drafted players within 1-3 have to step up. They are drafted to make an immediate impact, get into the mix or develop in a few years. If that doesn’t happen you have busts.
I don’t care if Ireland drafted Thomas, a lot of us bloggers liked him in as a pick for LG. That’s where he is now. He wasn’t ready coming off of shoulder surgery as a rookie and didn’t play. Last year he got tossed into the fire and had some good moments at both G and T, but he had some standout bad moments that everyone remembers. Coaches think they can correct those things and so can the player.
I remember Philbin addressing Thomas and said if you look at the tape, there is a lot of good stuff but too many bad technique issues show up.. It’s not a strength issue for Thomas, it’s technique and using leverage. Philbin says both the coaches and players have to do a better job.
It is a process, but I know that calendar thing is huge. LOL
We have a very tall OL with players who have played both G and T. Pouncey the exception.
I believe Tannehill being 6-4 and mobile is part of this plan.
It’s concerning to me that Thomas is still having technique issues in his second season. What’s especially concerning to me, is I saw his get tossed around and beaten severly on a number of occassons, ala Martin. When I see a guy get beaten that badly on this level, I see a guy who doesn’t belong.
Where does anyone see the lateral rankings as opposed to vertical – putting them in chronological order? At what point in the 1st round does it become preference and a different view?
I don’t know what you are asking. What’s chronological order?
The order in which they were born?
You have to go 1, 2, 3, 4, 5… etc. That doesn’t mean 2 and 5 are much different or at all. Someone has to make an order. That’s where the lateral board comes into play.
There is usually a top 2, 3, 5 or 10 and then it starts to widen. That’s what I’m asking.
LOL, that’s all I could come up with too. Must draft oldest to youngest
No you don’t Tim, you list those players, by name, horizontally on your board. Then you choose the one who fits best. You don’t have to rank them 1,2,3,4,5. You just pick the one of the five that fits best.
Maybe that is the point where some teams start drafting more for need or BPA Tim.
And the San Diego chargers select the oldest man alive
Great game taking place right now.
I think Jahn is right
You are not necessarily ranking guys
You are probably picking from a group
It makes a little sense in the later rounds bc you can say
Okay this CB is my tier 3 guy and that is what we are picking now – tier 3 guys
But we picked a CB in the first
So I’m picking the tier 3 LB now
I voted Dupree to the chargers thinking the chargers would address RB later
But I have to admit Gurley makes sense to the chargers
I voted for Gurley, but that was after I voted for us to draft him.
Oy! Off to races on that one. LOL
I believe in the horizontal board. My question was where does it become apparent? We know the two QBs and Williams are at the top and few other guys follow. After that where does it even out? It was just a question, not a declaration. LOL
I think I need hand gestures or something, I’m just not following or understanding you
1, 2, 3, 4 or 5… (maybe I should have said linear instead)
as opposed to…
1a, 1b, 1c, 1d, 1e with a difference of 7.5 to 7.3 rankings. GMs are not following Rob Rang. So what position makes sense? If you’re looking at an 8.3 vs. a 7.3 I ask why is this guy still available?
I don’t know what else to say. We’ve done this for years. It’s all good. 🙂
Get the pitch forks and torches! Tim’s a monster!
Where does it become apparent? On the wall in the war room?
LOL @ Son. If I ask for a hand gesture I think I’m getting the bird. 😛
Or even worse, you get Mike E…
Wait… if you’re asking where do the players start to group together with less differentiation, I can only re-iterate what I heard Polian say…averaging at pick 18. After 18 he says most of them are really 2nd round type players so it comes down to club fit and preference.
Maybe that helps? Now’s where I ask for your mercy. I’m actually trying to answer you question..sorry if I failed miserably.
(Piggy shoots a bird at Son)
Oh boy I got the middle trotter
It’s not the trotter Miss Piggy gets
I didn’t even realize Jahn said something about the bird too…lol
Wisconsin is looking real good tonight. Up by 8
Jahn, have you ever seen a dropoff in a draft? That’s what is apparent. I was asking what you and everyone else sees. I guess I didn’t come off that way. So let’s start again, do you see it or not? Why does this get so complex?
A dropoff in talent? I think it happens somewhere around 10-12 in this draft. JMHO of course.
Right before we pick…lol
Unfortunately for us Piggy, that does seem to be the spot. I alluded to this earlier this offseason when I started asking folks what we are going to do if the top 3 WRs are off the board.
That said, I think dropoffs and close groupings probably exist through out the draft.
That’s all I was asking. That’s when the lateral board comes into play.
They say okay the guys we figured would be off the board are gone. Who’s our guy?
13 or so thru 35 or 40 is what Polian is talking about, not the top 10-12.
Speaking of the trotter Miss Piggy gets
I hope everyone is ready for Colonpokey tomorrow!
Not surprised that a call goes Dukes way
Why is Mike E dressed this way 😉
I like Jones a lot!
I like Delmas when HEALTHY!
The rest are not proven
I think we all feel that way, my point was why is safety a priority when the starters are set? Is Wanny drafting again, well we need an LB for special teams, so lets take one in the second.
We need a CB, only one proven starter, one LB, at least one OG, and a WR. We could use more depth on the Oline and LB (after drafting one of each to start or compete to start), TE and Safety, but I wouldn’t put those positions as a need.
I like our unproven LB’s better than our unproven S!