from Timothy Chestnut
Q – Do you think Dion Jordan is being held out of the workouts because he is part of a trade and we can’t risk him getting hurt? If so, who else out there is being held out of workouts? Kendricks of Philly? If so, will there be some 3-way swing trade with the Eagles, Browns, and us where Bradford goes to the Browns and Mariotta goes to Philly? If so, will it be us sending Dion Jordan to the Eagles and either Moore or Josh Freeman to the Browns and us getting the Browns’ other first pick and their 5th and Philly’s first and thirds?
I think it’s possible Dion Jordan is going to be traded, but I wouldn’t leave the focus solely on Philly and Chip Kelly. Sure, Kelly is always Duck hunting, but there are a lot of other teams that could be interested in Jordan, especially teams that play a 3-4 base defense, where Jordan’s talent might flourish the most. It seems to me that at 3-4 OLB, where he’s not going up against the OT with his hand in the ground right at the LOS would better suit him, and give him time to use his speed and length better coming around the edge. It seems like his functional strength doesn’t suit him fighting in the trenches.
Now, if Kelly really is the guy who wants Jordan, it’s possible Mychal Kendricks is a part of the equation. A 3 team deal seems so unlikely though in the NFL, but if it were to somehow materialize, Kendricks seems like a good fit on both sides. A young talented player, who may not be a perfect fit for their respective teams. Kendricks in his rookie season played all 3 LB spots, SLB, WLB and MLB. In ’13 and ’14, Kendricks settled in at MLB. He’s got the speed to cover, and in 3 seasons has 17 passes defensed and 3 INT’s, along with 5 FF’s and 4 FR’s. He’s made some plays. Jordan has made a few impact plays as well, but most of them have come on ST’s. Jordan has only 3 sacks in 2 seasons, and is a year older than Mychal Kendricks. It would definitely be a trade for potential for the Eagles, and then love of Ducks, than what Jordan has produced.
I don’t think Freeman or Moore will be a part of any deal, if the Browns wanted either of those guys, they would have had them. I think the Brown are either going to give Manziel another shot this season, or they’re going to draft another QB, maybe Hundley or Petty.
I think another possibility is if Chip Kelly really wants Jordan, and Miami is really ready to cut the cord on Jordan is maybe we trade him for the Eagles 3rd RD pick (#84), or even their 4th RD pick (#114). At this point, either pick seems high for what Jordan has produced, but if we’re talking Chip Kelly and a former Duck (especially a coveted one), it may not matter.
OK – Obviously this question became immaterial with yesterdays unfortunate news that Dion Jordan will be suspended for the entire ’15 season, and apparently, we had a deal in hand with Philadelphia which would have included G Evan Mathis and/or a late pick, and possibly LB Mychal Kendricks. That’s history now, thanks Mr. Jordan!
from Pigsgerald Oinkustus Bacon
Q – Mike,
Do you view CB as a need? Do you think there is a CB worth picking at 14? Do you think there is a day 3 pick with a shot to compete with Jamar Taylor?
I do view CB as a need, but not a dire need. I think we can wait until the 4th or 5th RD. I think there are some CB’s that are potential starters that might make it to the 4th. We’ve recently loaded up on CB’s signing Nickel CB Brice McCain (PIT), and CB Zack Bowman (NYG), and of course we already have Brent Grimes, Jamar Taylor and Will Davis, although the latter 2 definitely have durability issues, as well as question marks as to whether either truly is a starter.
The draft is a crap shoot, so the guys that appear right now through mocks and ratings and what not that they are projected to be available in the 3rd or 4th RD might be long gone once the actual draft is underway. CB’s like Josh Shaw, Charles Gaines, Doran Grant, Senquez Golson, Lorenzo Doss, Steven Nelson. I think all of these guys are at about the talent level of the 2 young CB’s we drafted 2 years ago, but maybe don’t have the injury issues.
As to whether there is a CB worth picking at #14, Trae Waynes is probably the one guy that can be considered worth it, but I can’t lie, I would be disappointed, very disappointed if that were our pick. Oh, back to guys that may be available in the 4th, I think it’s possible Ifoooooo (Ifo Ekpre-Olomu) might make it there. Only because of his injury and the likelihood that he may not be ready to start the season due to his injury, and also the possibility that some teams may only see him as a nickel corner due to his size.
Q – Hey Mike, we’ve discussed the draft possibilities up and down and side to side, I think we even looked at it from 45 degree angles.
So there’s not much else to touch on leading up to the draft this Thursday night. So I’ll ask this question and I know which prospect you like best, but tell us why you think one over the other is the way to go.
I feel that both Parker and La’el Collins will be there at #14 when we’re up. Obviously barring any trades, who do you take and why or is there someone else you’d prefer who you also think will be there?
The Dark Knight 😉
I would take La’el Collins in a second. Here’s why. I really don’t believe that Branden Albert is going to be ready and completely healthy to start the season. Of course we all want him to be, but I’m not sure that he will be. That would leave a giant hole on our O-line, even if it were just 2-4 games. We all saw what happened the last games of the season when Branden Albert was out. Besides lighting up the Vikings, we were inept, and we couldn’t run block, or properly protect Ryan Tannehill. Yeah, we brought in a few bodies recently, but does anyone here really think that any of those guys, or anyone else we have on the roster is ready to play LT? I think Ja’Wuan James would be the best candidate to do that, but then we have a hole at RT, and please don’t say Jason Fox. If you tell me Jason Fox is fine at RT, or LT, I’ll tell you Matt Hazel is the stud WR we need to play opposite Kenny Stills.
When I look at what WR’s should be available in the 2nd RD, I’d be very happy with any of those guys, meaning Sammie Coates, Nelson Agholor, Phillip Dorsett, maybe Jaelen Strong (although I think he goes late 1st) Devin Smith etc. If we got La’el Collins and any one of those WR’s I mentioned, I’d be ecstatic. Not that we’re the GB Packers, but if you think of the WR corps that they assembled over the years, they never really had the big stud WR until they drafted Jordy Nelson. Greg Jennings (5’10” 195), Donald Driver (6’0” 188), James Jones (6’1” 208).
Look at what we currently have on our roster at WR now.
Kenny Stills 6’0” 194, Jarvis Landry 5’10” 195, Jarvis Landry 5’11” 202, Rishard Matthews 6’0” 215, Matt Hazel 6’1” 202. Seems pretty similar, right? There are some bigger WR’s that will be available to us in the mid to late RD’s like Chis Conley 6’2” 213.
I realize I’ve left out DGB (Sorry GDP!), but I just don’t see us going that way. It would shock me if we selected him, because we’ll either have to take to him in RD1 or 2, and I don’t think he’ll be there in RD2 pick 15, so basically, we’ll either have to take him at #14 or trade back and take him, and I really don’t see our 1st pick going on a big gamble like that, even with Tannenbaum involved.
Back to La’el Collins. He’s a nasty, blocking machine. he has the talent to play OT, but can move inside and be a dominant OG. Could we use a dominant OG? Hell yeah we can! Does anyone here want to roll the dice with Albert out and Jason Fox at RT and Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner at G? I hope that’s not the plan, it scares me to death! Collins brings the “nasty” let’s kick some ass attitude our O-line desperately needs. How many failed short yardage situations have we had? It’s attitude! If you line up knowing you’re getting that yard or two, anticipating putting the guy you’re up against on his ass, it happens!
Draft La’el Collins, and the machine works!
Addendum to the news yesterday about La’el Collins. The Dolphins organization will do their due diligence on this. They will find out the facts, as will every other NFL team interested in drafting La’el Collins, and he will still be our #14 pick if everything checks out. Watch and see!
Well it’s good to see you finally get off your Arse!
The big question on everyone’s mind #14!!!!!!!!
So if La’el Collins, Strong, Gurley, Landon Collins are there @ 14 who does Mike E take?
And seeing as you picked La’el if he is gone then does Kendrick’s come into play?
As a backup in case you get to many Draft questions!
Do you think Dallas Thomas can man an OG spot?
Am I that transparent??? Yup, I most certainly am. There are quite a few people who want us to draft La’el, I don’t stand alone. I don’t see us drafting Kendricks if Collins and Parker are gone. I think we’d work the phones and try to move back some, and in that case, Kendricks becomes a possibility, as does Jaelen Strong, Breshad Perriman, or one of the other OT’s like DJ Humphreys, Cameron Erving or Jake Fisher.
I admit that I’m kind of narrow-minded on this topic, but I think we have to get the O-line right. I think WR’s are easier to replace than OL. If Albert or James go down, we’re in trouble. If Kenny Stills goes down, the season is not lost. Right now we don’t have the depth, and I’m not sure at all that we have 2 starting quality OG’s at the moment.
Strong and Gurley will likely get consideration, and maybe more from a couple of guys in the war room, and the selection of Gurley would have to go along with a completely different philosophy on offense. We’ve been a pass oriented team the last few years. If we take Gurley, that has to change. You don’t take Todd Gurley at #15 and run him 15-20 a game. We’ve done that successfully with Lamar Miller, a 5.1 YPC average, so why draft Gurley? If the plan is to run the ball 30-35 times a game, with Gurley getting the majority, and Miller as a change of pace, then it makes sense, and maybe that’s how we roll. I just think of the GB Packers offense when Phibin was there, and they never had anything like that, which leads me to believe it won’t happen here either. I know some of you love Gurley, and I understand why, I just don’t see him as a Miami Dolphin.
Drafting Kendricks really depends on what they think of the guys we currently have. You have to think Jenkins and Misi are locks, with Misi staying at MLB or moving to SLB, and Jenkins at WLB. Kendricks is a guy who could play either inside or outside, as can Paul Dawson or Bernardrick McKinney. What about the guys we have though? Is Jordan Tripp ready to compete for a starting job at either MLB or OLB? Kelvin Sheppard? Or is it Chris McCain that will win the OLB spot across from Jenkins? That’s what we DON’T know, how much they think of what we already have. That’s the Wild Card that may have us completely ignoring LB in this draft, or at least with with our first 2 picks.
As far as Dallas Thomas, unless some switch goes off with that kid, I don’t see him as anything but a versatile guy who can back up at G or T, but I really don’t see him as a starter, or at least a successful starter.
Q – We’ve seen Philbin for a while now……do you see any possibility that we come out of this draft with a player with a serious character or motivation concern if we pick at #14 or above?
I personally just don’t see it happening. I think if Joe has any input on who we draft (And he SHOULD), then I don’t see a guy like CB Marcus Peters or WR Dorial Green-Beckham in a Dolphins uniform. We’ve seen him weed the roster of those type of players since he got here (Brandon Marshall, Vontae Davis, Mike Wallace), so I can’t imagine, unless they brought that player in for an interview, and Joe felt comfortable with him.
Joe obviously has an image of the type of player that he wants here, he wants TEAM players, guys that put the needs of the team first and foremost, and their own needs are secondary. That being said, we haven’t gotten past .500 with Joe at the helm yet, so despite weeding out the bad character guys, we’re still an average team. One could argue that a very talented player with character issues might be worth a shot, and maybe their 100% right, but I don’t think Joe Philbin is one of the guys who thinks that way.
This is an addendum to this response. After what transpired on Tuesday with Dion Jordan, there’s not a shot in hell we take a player with character issues. We just can’t afford to have another high pick that can be suspended and unavailable to the team.
Q – Alright, I gotta question for ya:
We know who the favorites are for us @ 14, and who we are likely to go after, but do you have a dark horse candidate for the pick, assuming we stay? Is there someone under the radar the FO might be looking at or who perhaps we have overlooked who could come in and be an immediate asset?
At this point, I don’t think any player is under the radar. We’ve discussed and posted thousands of mock drafts the least few months, so I can’t say there’s a player we haven’t touched on. Now, there could be a player that we’ve discussed maybe as a 2nd RD pick or a guy we would take if we were able to trade back, so if that’s what you mean, than yes, there is always the possibility of a surprise pick.
The first player that is a “dark horse” could be Breshad Perriman. It would be a surprise, but I wouldn’t be shocked or dumbfounded. Another player would be Cameron Erving. Very agile offensive lineman who can play T, C or G. With that talent, and versatility on the line, it’s not out of the realm of possibility. You can probably put Eric Kendricks in that category as well. He’s a very productive, talented LB who can play either inside or outside, so he’s a potential dark horse as well.
I think WR Jaelen Strong is another dark horse. Most of us see him as a late 1st RD, early 2nd RD pick, but he’s a fats, big bodied receiver who uses his size well. As I discussed before, I’m not totally convinced that we’re even looking for a big WR, but if we are, he’s one of them. A true dark horse would be DGB Dorial Green-Beckham. Most of think that due to character concerns, he’s not even or board in the 1st RD, but it’s possible that the Dolphins brass (read Tannenbaum) feel differently, and want the big (6’5” 237) talented, but red flagged WR. I would be floored by that one, but hey, anything is possible.
I’d also include 3 more OL in this, DJ Humphries and Jake Fisher. Both grade more towards late 1st or early 2nd RD picks, but both are talented in different ways. Humphries is considered by some the best true LT prospect in this draft, so at #14, with Albert injured, it’s not insane. Jake Fisher is a very athletic OL who is a former TE, and really moves well, and can play at T or G. The other one is T/C Cameron Erving. Another athletic OL, he’s played C and T. He can likely play any position on the line. I think that versatility is important, because if any of these OT’s need to move inside if they cover a T position temporarily until Albert is healthy, you want a guy who will be comfortable moving inside.
The other dark horse possibility is that we move up and take either WR Amari Cooper, WR Kevin White, or even OL Brandon Scherff. The first 2 wouldn’t really surprise me, but if we traded up for Scherff, that would knock my socks off. I’m not even sure I would agree with that one so much, but like I did with Ireland and Dion Jordan, I’d hope we made the right move.
If you’re a Dolphins fan, you’ve already heard the disturbing news that Dion Jordan was suspended for the entire 2015 NFL season for failing yet another drug test, and this time, there were diluting agents found, which means he was trying to beat the system. Well, the only ones who are beat are fans of this team, because as the story goes, we had a deal in hand with the Philadelphia Eagles for G Evan Mathis, and a pick in this draft, likely a late pick/and or possibly LB Mychal Kendricks. Kiss it goodbye thanks to Jordan.
Additional disturbing news came down the freeway, OT La’el Collins will be questioned by police in an investigation of the death of Collins ex-girlfriend. Some people are overreacting to this, or maybe I’m so blindly enamored with drafting him that nothing is going to cloud that for me.
In any case, mark it down, with the 14th pick in the 2015 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select . . .
La’el Collins, OT – LSU
And now for the babe of the week . . .