Ask Mike – 2015 NFL Draft Edition


from Timothy Chestnut

Q – Do you think Dion Jordan is being held out of the workouts because he is part of a trade and we can’t risk him getting hurt? If so, who else out there is being held out of workouts? Kendricks of Philly? If so, will there be some 3-way swing trade with the Eagles, Browns, and us where Bradford goes to the Browns and Mariotta goes to Philly? If so, will it be us sending Dion Jordan to the Eagles and either Moore or Josh Freeman to the Browns and us getting the Browns’ other first pick and their 5th and Philly’s first and thirds?

I think it’s possible Dion Jordan is going to be traded, but I wouldn’t leave the focus solely on Philly and Chip Kelly. Sure, Kelly is always Duck hunting, but there are a lot of other teams that could be interested in Jordan, especially teams that play a 3-4 base defense, where Jordan’s talent might flourish the most. It seems to me that at 3-4 OLB, where he’s not going up against the OT with his hand in the ground right at the LOS would better suit him, and give him time to use his speed and length better coming around the edge. It seems like his functional strength doesn’t suit him fighting in the trenches.

Now, if Kelly really is the guy who wants Jordan, it’s possible Mychal Kendricks is a part of the equation. A 3 team deal seems so unlikely though in the NFL, but if it were to somehow materialize, Kendricks seems like a good fit on both sides. A young talented player, who may not be a perfect fit for their respective teams. Kendricks in his rookie season played all 3 LB spots, SLB, WLB and MLB. In ’13 and ’14, Kendricks settled in at MLB. He’s got the speed to cover, and in 3 seasons has 17 passes defensed and 3 INT’s, along with 5 FF’s and 4 FR’s. He’s made some plays. Jordan has made a few impact plays as well, but most of them have come on ST’s. Jordan has only 3 sacks in 2 seasons, and is a year older than Mychal Kendricks. It would definitely be a trade for potential for the Eagles, and then love of Ducks, than what Jordan has produced.

I don’t think Freeman or Moore will be a part of any deal, if the Browns wanted either of those guys, they would have had them. I think the Brown are either going to give Manziel another shot this season, or they’re going to draft another QB, maybe Hundley or Petty.

I think another possibility is if Chip Kelly really wants Jordan, and Miami is really ready to cut the cord on Jordan is maybe we trade him for the Eagles 3rd RD pick (#84), or even their 4th RD pick (#114). At this point, either pick seems high for what Jordan has produced, but if we’re talking Chip Kelly and a former Duck (especially a coveted one), it may not matter.

OK – Obviously this question became immaterial with yesterdays unfortunate news that Dion Jordan will be suspended for the entire ’15 season, and apparently, we had a deal in hand with Philadelphia which would have included G Evan Mathis and/or a late pick, and possibly LB Mychal Kendricks.  That’s history now, thanks Mr. Jordan!

from Pigsgerald Oinkustus Bacon

Q – Mike,

Do you view CB as a need?  Do you think there is a CB worth picking at 14? Do you think there is a day 3 pick  with a shot to compete with Jamar Taylor?



I do view CB as a need, but not a dire need. I think we can wait until the 4th or 5th RD. I think there are some CB’s that are potential starters that might make it to the 4th. We’ve recently loaded up on CB’s signing Nickel CB Brice McCain (PIT), and CB Zack Bowman (NYG), and of course we already have Brent Grimes, Jamar Taylor and Will Davis, although the latter 2 definitely have durability issues, as well as question marks as to whether either truly is a starter.

The draft is a crap shoot, so the guys that appear right now through mocks and ratings and what not that they are projected to be available in the 3rd or 4th RD might be long gone once the actual draft is underway. CB’s like Josh Shaw, Charles Gaines, Doran Grant, Senquez Golson, Lorenzo Doss, Steven Nelson. I think all of these guys are at about the talent level of the 2 young CB’s we drafted 2 years ago, but maybe don’t have the injury issues.

As to whether there is a CB worth picking at #14, Trae Waynes is probably the one guy that can be considered worth it, but I can’t lie, I would be disappointed, very disappointed if that were our pick. Oh, back to guys that may be available in the 4th, I think it’s possible Ifoooooo (Ifo Ekpre-Olomu) might make it there. Only because of his injury and the likelihood that he may not be ready to start the season due to his injury, and also the possibility that some teams may only see him as a nickel corner due to his size.

from Tim

Q – Hey Mike, we’ve discussed the draft possibilities up and down and side to side, I think we even looked at it from 45 degree angles.

So there’s not much else to touch on leading up to the draft this Thursday night. So I’ll ask this question and I know which prospect you like best, but tell us why you think one over the other is the way to go.

I feel that both Parker and La’el Collins will be there at #14 when we’re up. Obviously barring any trades, who do you take and why or is there someone else you’d prefer who you also think will be there?

Thank you,
The Dark Knight 😉

I would take La’el Collins in a second. Here’s why. I really don’t believe that Branden Albert is going to be ready and completely healthy to start the season. Of course we all want him to be, but I’m not sure that he will be. That would leave a giant hole on our O-line, even if it were just 2-4 games. We all saw what happened the last games of the season when Branden Albert was out. Besides lighting up the Vikings, we were inept, and we couldn’t run block, or properly protect Ryan Tannehill. Yeah, we brought in a few bodies recently, but does anyone here really think that any of those guys, or anyone else we have on the roster is ready to play LT? I think Ja’Wuan James would be the best candidate to do that, but then we have a hole at RT, and please don’t say Jason Fox. If you tell me Jason Fox is fine at RT, or LT, I’ll tell you Matt Hazel is the stud WR we need to play opposite Kenny Stills.

When I look at what WR’s should be available in the 2nd RD, I’d be very happy with any of those guys, meaning Sammie Coates, Nelson Agholor, Phillip Dorsett, maybe Jaelen Strong (although I think he goes late 1st) Devin Smith etc. If we got La’el Collins and any one of those WR’s I mentioned, I’d be ecstatic. Not that we’re the GB Packers, but if you think of the WR corps that they assembled over the years, they never really had the big stud WR until they drafted Jordy Nelson. Greg Jennings (5’10” 195), Donald Driver (6’0” 188), James Jones (6’1” 208).

Look at what we currently have on our roster at WR now.
Kenny Stills 6’0” 194, Jarvis Landry 5’10” 195, Jarvis Landry 5’11” 202, Rishard Matthews 6’0” 215, Matt Hazel 6’1” 202. Seems pretty similar, right? There are some bigger WR’s that will be available to us in the mid to late RD’s like Chis Conley 6’2” 213.

I realize I’ve left out DGB (Sorry GDP!), but I just don’t see us going that way. It would shock me if we selected him, because we’ll either have to take to him in RD1 or 2, and I don’t think he’ll be there in RD2 pick 15, so basically, we’ll either have to take him at #14 or trade back and take him, and I really don’t see our 1st pick going on a big gamble like that, even with Tannenbaum involved.

Back to La’el Collins. He’s a nasty, blocking machine. he has the talent to play OT, but can move inside and be a dominant OG. Could we use a dominant OG? Hell yeah we can! Does anyone here want to roll the dice with Albert out and Jason Fox at RT and Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner at G? I hope that’s not the plan, it scares me to death! Collins brings the “nasty” let’s kick some ass attitude our O-line desperately needs. How many failed short yardage situations have we had? It’s attitude! If you line up knowing you’re getting that yard or two, anticipating putting the guy you’re up against on his ass, it happens!

Draft La’el Collins, and the machine works!

Addendum to the news yesterday about La’el Collins.  The Dolphins organization will do their due diligence on this.  They will find out the facts, as will every other NFL team interested in drafting La’el Collins, and he will still be our #14 pick if everything checks out.  Watch and see!

from Wyoming
Well it’s good to see you finally get off your Arse!
The big question on everyone’s mind #14!!!!!!!!
So if La’el Collins, Strong, Gurley, Landon Collins are there @ 14 who does Mike E take?
And seeing as you picked La’el if he is gone then does Kendrick’s come into play?
As a backup in case you get to many Draft questions!
Do you think Dallas Thomas can man an OG spot?

Am I that transparent??? Yup, I most certainly am. There are quite a few people who want us to draft La’el, I don’t stand alone. I don’t see us drafting Kendricks if Collins and Parker are gone. I think we’d work the phones and try to move back some, and in that case, Kendricks becomes a possibility, as does Jaelen Strong, Breshad Perriman, or one of the other OT’s like DJ Humphreys, Cameron Erving or Jake Fisher.

I admit that I’m kind of narrow-minded on this topic, but I think we have to get the O-line right. I think WR’s are easier to replace than OL. If Albert or James go down, we’re in trouble. If Kenny Stills goes down, the season is not lost. Right now we don’t have the depth, and I’m not sure at all that we have 2 starting quality OG’s at the moment.

Strong and Gurley will likely get consideration, and maybe more from a couple of guys in the war room, and the selection of Gurley would have to go along with a completely different philosophy on offense. We’ve been a pass oriented team the last few years. If we take Gurley, that has to change. You don’t take Todd Gurley at #15 and run him 15-20 a game. We’ve done that successfully with Lamar Miller, a 5.1 YPC average, so why draft Gurley? If the plan is to run the ball 30-35 times a game, with Gurley getting the majority, and Miller as a change of pace, then it makes sense, and maybe that’s how we roll. I just think of the GB Packers offense when Phibin was there, and they never had anything like that, which leads me to believe it won’t happen here either. I know some of you love Gurley, and I understand why, I just don’t see him as a Miami Dolphin.

Drafting Kendricks really depends on what they think of the guys we currently have. You have to think Jenkins and Misi are locks, with Misi staying at MLB or moving to SLB, and Jenkins at WLB. Kendricks is a guy who could play either inside or outside, as can Paul Dawson or Bernardrick McKinney. What about the guys we have though? Is Jordan Tripp ready to compete for a starting job at either MLB or OLB? Kelvin Sheppard? Or is it Chris McCain that will win the OLB spot across from Jenkins? That’s what we DON’T know, how much they think of what we already have. That’s the Wild Card that may have us completely ignoring LB in this draft, or at least with with our first 2 picks.

As far as Dallas Thomas, unless some switch goes off with that kid, I don’t see him as anything but a versatile guy who can back up at G or T, but I really don’t see him as a starter, or at least a successful starter.

from Stanger

Q – We’ve seen Philbin for a while now……do you see any possibility that we come out of this draft with a player with a serious character or motivation concern if we pick at #14 or above? 


I personally just don’t see it happening. I think if Joe has any input on who we draft (And he SHOULD), then I don’t see a guy like CB Marcus Peters or WR Dorial Green-Beckham in a Dolphins uniform. We’ve seen him weed the roster of those type of players since he got here (Brandon Marshall, Vontae Davis, Mike Wallace), so I can’t imagine, unless they brought that player in for an interview, and Joe felt comfortable with him.

Joe obviously has an image of the type of player that he wants here, he wants TEAM players, guys that put the needs of the team first and foremost, and their own needs are secondary. That being said, we haven’t gotten past .500 with Joe at the helm yet, so despite weeding out the bad character guys, we’re still an average team. One could argue that a very talented player with character issues might be worth a shot, and maybe their 100% right, but I don’t think Joe Philbin is one of the guys who thinks that way.

This is an addendum to this response.  After what transpired on Tuesday with Dion Jordan, there’s not a shot in hell we take a player with character issues.  We just can’t afford to have another high pick that can be suspended and unavailable to the team.

from TryPod

Q – Alright, I gotta question for ya:
We know who the favorites are for us @ 14, and who we are likely to go after, but do you have a dark horse candidate for the pick, assuming we stay? Is there someone under the radar the FO might be looking at or who perhaps we have overlooked who could come in and be an immediate asset?

At this point, I don’t think any player is under the radar. We’ve discussed and posted thousands of mock drafts the least few months, so I can’t say there’s a player we haven’t touched on. Now, there could be a player that we’ve discussed maybe as a 2nd RD pick or a guy we would take if we were able to trade back, so if that’s what you mean, than yes, there is always the possibility of a surprise pick.

The first player that is a “dark horse” could be Breshad Perriman. It would be a surprise, but I wouldn’t be shocked or dumbfounded. Another player would be Cameron Erving. Very agile offensive lineman who can play T, C or G. With that talent, and versatility on the line, it’s not out of the realm of possibility. You can probably put Eric Kendricks in that category as well. He’s a very productive, talented LB who can play either inside or outside, so he’s a potential dark horse as well.

I think WR Jaelen Strong is another dark horse. Most of us see him as a late 1st RD, early 2nd RD pick, but he’s a fats, big bodied receiver who uses his size well. As I discussed before, I’m not totally convinced that we’re even looking for a big WR, but if we are, he’s one of them. A true dark horse would be DGB Dorial Green-Beckham. Most of think that due to character concerns, he’s not even or board in the 1st RD, but it’s possible that the Dolphins brass (read Tannenbaum) feel differently, and want the big (6’5” 237) talented, but red flagged WR. I would be floored by that one, but hey, anything is possible.

I’d also include 3 more OL in this, DJ Humphries and Jake Fisher. Both grade more towards late 1st or early 2nd RD picks, but both are talented in different ways. Humphries is considered by some the best true LT prospect in this draft, so at #14, with Albert injured, it’s not insane. Jake Fisher is a very athletic OL who is a former TE, and really moves well, and can play at T or G.  The other one is T/C Cameron Erving.  Another athletic OL, he’s played C and T.  He can likely play any position on the line.  I think that versatility is important, because if any of these OT’s need to move inside if they cover a T position temporarily until Albert is healthy, you want a guy who will be comfortable moving inside.

The other dark horse possibility is that we move up and take either WR Amari Cooper, WR Kevin White, or even OL Brandon Scherff. The first 2 wouldn’t really surprise me, but if we traded up for Scherff, that would knock my socks off. I’m not even sure I would agree with that one so much, but like I did with Ireland and Dion Jordan, I’d hope we made the right move.

If you’re a Dolphins fan, you’ve already heard the disturbing news that Dion Jordan was suspended for the entire 2015 NFL season for failing yet another drug test, and this time, there were diluting agents found, which means he was trying to beat the system. Well, the only ones who are beat are fans of this team, because as the story goes, we had a deal in hand with the Philadelphia Eagles for G Evan Mathis, and a pick in this draft, likely a late pick/and or possibly LB Mychal Kendricks. Kiss it goodbye thanks to Jordan.

Additional disturbing news came down the freeway, OT La’el Collins will be questioned by police in an investigation of the death of Collins ex-girlfriend. Some people are overreacting to this, or maybe I’m so blindly enamored with drafting him that nothing is going to cloud that for me.

In any case, mark it down, with the 14th pick in the 2015 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select . . .

La’el Collins, OT –  LSU


And now for the babe of the week  . . .

Anne Hathaway

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310 Responses to Ask Mike – 2015 NFL Draft Edition

  1. Brian in NY says:

    Welcome back Ask Mike! Nice throwback of Anne Hathaway, before she got all “Hollywood skinny”!

  2. Brian in NY says:

    Timothy Chesnut, I’d make that trade in a second!

  3. Brian in NY says:

    would yo still take La’el Collins now that he could be involved in a murder, particularly since nothing will be resolved by tomorrow night? He may now drop like a stone.

  4. wyoming85 says:

    James Harden, Rockets oust Mavs 4 – 1

  5. Try Pod says:

    Thanks for the “Ask Mike-Draft Edition”! I still think we go BPA, so it really comes down to who is available when we get to 14 and what grades the FO has on those remaining. Perhaps the property approach is to figure out what the FO values and go from there. I know- genius. Lol

  6. D says:

    So I guess dgb should a just had the woman shot so mike would like him lol. Jbb Michael

  7. dcoralsprings says:

    This years draft is exciting, we could go any direction
    A bit of surprise coming ?

    As far as the Jordan saga goes,
    It may end here with a dull thud
    Kind of like his short career

    The guy now has as many suspensions as sacks

    If there is any bright side to all of this
    We didn’t lose a starter
    Imagine the pain IF the guy was worthy of that pick

    And as those of us who like to fish often say
    Cut bait and move on
    Have a great day everyone

  8. wyoming85 says:

    The lawyer for LSU guard La’El Collins said that his client has been cooperating with investigators regarding the murder of his pregnant ex-girlfriend, in which he is not considered a suspect.

    • D says:

      Currently considered, but I agree with ken unless he is completely cleared I would risk it. We need more security from that pick this year. There are other comprabke prospects for OG even OG/OT ones. We can’t risk drafting a guy who may be even possibly tied to murder

  9. dbolt48 says:

    Who the hell is Greg Landry???? Did we sign someone from the PGA tour to play WR😆

  10. dbolt48 says:

    Here’s my curve ball for the draft:
    At pick 14 the Miami Dolphins select WR Nelson Agholor from USC

    • D says:

      I will come unglued. I sure hope not. Agholor is barely in 2nd round consideration IMO. I’d take hardy over agholor. I’d rather have Coates, perriman, dgb, dirsett Devin smith, over agholor

    • D says:

      I think a curve ball will be what most here would consider a slight over draft. Someone like Landon Collins or maybe cam serving. Someone we were considering a later round selection. I don’t think we get crazy with the cheesewhiz this year

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I really don’t think Angholor is in the same category as the WRs who are first round picks

      There are a lot of WRs I would take before Angholor
      He is a good player
      I would not mind if he is the WR we add
      And I would think he has the ability to perform as well as Landry did for us – so its a nice fit

      But I am thinking he is late 2nd round material

      I also tend to think a bigger WR is the piece we can use in this offense
      So I bumped Angholor out of the 7 samurai Monday in favor of bigger WRs

  11. D says:

    Dgb would be a curvwball pick since people think its impossible Philbin would have him on our team.

    • dbolt48 says:

      Yeah, that would be one. You want to believe he’s flipped his life around, but we heard similar statements made by Jordan after his suspension.

  12. Rhino says:

    Wyoming… Dubs are waiting for Harden and his “Tall Softie” teammate. 🙂

  13. olddolphan says:

    REALLY A TERRIFIC READ< MIKE!!! – – Completely agree with you that O-Line is BY FAR our greatest need. –To plug those O-Line holes, we need to take the BEST O-LINMAN AVAILABLE AT #14, PERIOD!!! – – NO EXCUSES!! – – And I would not be shocked if we moved up 6-7 spots to take the #1 rated O-Lineman in this draft, Scherff from Iowa. THEN take best wideout available in round 2 and the best DB in round 4 –Oh how I'm hoping Florida Atlantic's D'JOUN SMITH falls to us in the 4th round!! Then, yet another O-Lineman must be taken in round 5, especially given Albert's uncertain status for the month of September. It is IMPERATIVE that we get off to a fast start this season. And we CAN'T DO IT with the O-Line guys currently on the roster.
    BOTW reminds me of Mrs. OD when she was in her 30's and we were dating. GREAT CHOICE!!

  14. Rhino says:

    MikeE… first “Ask Mike” i’ve had time to read in a while. Great job. Good to read it again.

    • olddolphan says:

      GOOD to see your comments, Dr. Rhino. Some day I hope to introduce you to my oldest girl who is a senior research scientist for a firm headquartered in Brussels. Fortunately, she has her mother’s good looks and brains.

  15. Mike E. says:

    Thanks fellas!

    I think as I mentioned above in an edit of the article, the Dolphins will do their due diligence and investigate this thoroughly, and if they’re satisfied as to what his involvement in the case is, just to perhaps give some background info to the police, and nothing further, he will be our pick at #14. Now, if some reason, they aren’t satisfied, and it is unclear, I would think that they will skip La’el Collins. We’ll see tomorrow, what the real deal is.

  16. Mike E. says:

    Thanks to Tim for the La’el Collins pic!

  17. The Flying Pig says:

    Great Ask Mike
    Its good to see you back in action
    LOL@ all the addendums based on the Jordan suspension and La’el collins news
    It really changes the way I thought about the draft

    Also love the Anne Hathaway pic
    Not as revealing as many of the other pics – but I think she’s super hot
    Like Brian said, I’m not a fan of the Hollywood skinny look on her (or really anyone else)

    • Mike E. says:

      Thanks Piggy – I think she might have the best smile in Hollywood. She’s very sexy, and I agree, don’t care for the emaciated look. Eat those damn cheese fries, and enjoy them!

  18. The Flying Pig says:

    I’m just not sure between yesterday and the draft tomorrow there is enough time to do a thorough due dilligence on Collins and what is going on with him

    It was reported that Collins hired his own private investigator (Diggs P.I.???) and I am sure something will be circulated to teams

    But the reality of a murder investigation less than 1 week old – is that its still evolving and there are so many unknowns

    There is only so much a team or a PI can give assurances about

    I know it breaks your heart to hear Mike E, but the reason Collins needs to be off the board, more than anything else, is the timing of the incident

    I almost feel bad for Collins (provided he had no involvement)

    Its such a shitty thing to happen to some one if they don;t deserve it

  19. The Flying Pig says:

    I’m going to throw this out there
    But I do think the possibility of Collins falling to the late first or 2nd round b/c of it is strong
    Its probably stronger than Ray or Gregory dropping

  20. The Flying Pig says:

    Thanks for the response about CBs Mike E

    And I agree with you except the part where you said you would be upset if waynes was the pick, bc I think waynes is one of the best talents of this draft

    but I don;t think drafting a CB in th 1st is ideal either

    I would prefer to sue a 4th or a 5th to add some depth
    I think in our scheme we can get one of the guys that are early day 3 that are below 5’10
    Some one like Ifo, Gaines, Golson or the other Kevin white
    there are some guys in day 3 that might excel in a zone scheme
    I think those guys can compete for starting jobs
    I would not draft Jalen Collins
    and although I like Marcus Peters a lot I would not touch him either – I want squeaky clean int his draft, especially early

  21. Mike E. says:

    Goodell and Patriots probably put out this La’el story so they can take him at #32.

  22. stangerx says:

    Awesome to see Ask Mike back…..and awesome job.

    And this one came with a surprise twist ending. La’el was not the babe of the week.

  23. dbolt48 says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    April 29, 2015 at 9:11 am
    I really don’t think Angholor is in the same category as the WRs who are first round picks

    There are a lot of WRs I would take before Angholor
    He is a good player
    I would not mind if he is the WR we add
    And I would think he has the ability to perform as well as Landry did for us – so its a nice fit

    But I am thinking he is late 2nd round material

    I also tend to think a bigger WR is the piece we can use in this offense
    So I bumped Angholor out of the 7 samurai Monday in favor of bigger WRs
    Hi Pig,
    I’ve always had a higher grade in Agholor than most. I think they will go big WR, but later. The reason I can see Agholor is he is a better route runner than all of the top guys outside of Cooper and is very explosive after the catch. Parker & Strong will bring a bigger catch radius, but less ability to seperate in and out of breaks. With that said it’s just a hunch😃

    • D says:

      Hardy has one of the best ability to separate out of breaks than almost any receiver in the draft, completely not based upon straight line speed but how he attacks the defender with his routes, best pure route runner and guy who accelerates out of his breaks best is Cooper hands down.

  24. getterdone says:

    Very cool stuff in this 6:40 video. Can someone here zoom in on that draft board? 😉
    It sounds like Hickey wants to trade down. I love what Hickey says at the end about our 3rd round pick.

    Inside The Dolphins Draft Room With Dennis Hickey

    Dolphins GM Dennis Hickey gives Finsiders draft insider John Congemi a special look inside of the Dolphins Draft Room, where the team will make their selections for the 2015 NFL Draft this weekend. Don’t miss Hickey’s insight on the process and technology that the Dolphins use as an organization in preparation for the draft.

  25. D says:

    Ken, just to follow up with what i was saying yesterday about the Jordan thing affecting our draft strategy, this is why i feel it might. First and most obvious is we were nearing a deal for Jordan which if i was abetting man was for a draft pick or potentially included a draft pick.

    Losing this pick due to loss of trade actually would change our draft currency and affect how we could move having additional picks to use for trading, or at the least affects how we use our picks as we have less than we could have been counting on in the draft. Extra pick means we can address another position, now we have to choose between positions.

    It also affects us in a way that DE position, which perhaps was not a very strong need at all now has shifted up in priority and would therefore shift something down.

    I also feel it affects us in the fact that it makes us more leery of draft picks with ANY question marks, so a guy like La’el Collins, DGB, Peters, or even Jalen Collins who may have unsubstantiated rumors surrounding them now become less palatable and likely come off our board or at very least shifted significantly down.

    Maybe its not a profound effect but i definatly think it fucks with what our original strategy might have been, and for that part im feeling the most disappointment from the Jordan situation. I actually could care less he wont eb on the team. To me he had already passed the point of likely return and i only held out the smallest glimmer of hope he could actually pan out for us. I also don’t feel he is a great loss for our team as he wasnt a real contributor. All in all the only real impact i see was how we appraoched the draft and maybe even that is minor.

  26. dbolt48 says:

    I saw that video last night. I like those team draft tracker screens they have in the background

  27. D says:

    getterdone says:
    April 29, 2015 at 10:20 am
    I figured they wouldn’t be that stupid.
    My guess is its dummy info on the screens anyways, but i was hoping to be able to make it out because it probably had some funny names on it.

  28. Mike E. says:

    If you look closely, you can see La’el Collins is the pick at #14. I’m surprised you guys can’t see that! lol

  29. wyoming85 says:

    Great Job Mike E

    If your looking for a curve?
    Well it shouldn’t fool you then! 😉

    I would say Erving or Strong?
    Everyone would say they were over drafted! But WTF do we know?

    Hickey showed last year that he doesn’t care what the pundits think!
    He took James and a bunch of small school prospects!
    Giving the ” experts ” the proverbial finger!

  30. wyoming85 says:

    We’ll see ya in a week! 🙂

  31. wyoming85 says:

    I don’t think WE have talked WR before? 😉

    Miami Dolphins ‏@MiamiDolphins · 8m8 minutes ago
    Take a look a the top receivers in this year’s draft.


  32. New Age says:

    Mike E,
    Glad to see Ask Mike back at just the right time! Can’t believe all the news we got on draft week! Talk about horrible timing which always has to include our Phins. I’m also glad to see a huge believer in Jason Fox out there!! We might be the only ones holding the torch for that guy….;)

  33. getterdone says:

    I was reading modern ACL tear info from other doctors, one being the Miami Heat team physician, and they claim it’s down to about just a 2% chance of re-tearing for athletes these days.
    If that consensus holds true, then I’m much more comfortable with Gurley if he still is on the board @ #14.
    However his aggressive hard running style worries me. But with a good ZBS, he should have better creases to break thru and can build a head of steam getting to the second level where impact should be more minimal.
    With ZBS, we need a RB with keen vision, good decisions.

  34. New Age says:

    You have a beautiful family then even without me seeing them. Anne Hathaway is a classic beauty and I agree with the guys that curves go best with women.

  35. getterdone says:

    Newage, Benton must see something in Fox, so I look forward to see if Fox does improve , as does the OL as a whole in year 2 of Benton’s Brawlers.

    • D says:

      S – Jaquiski Tartt, Samford

      Another small-school stud who made the most of his trip to the Senior Bowl, Tartt is the most complete safety in this class. He’s got ideal size, is solid in coverage, and brings the hammer on both receivers and ball-carriers. Teams might shy away from spending a Day 2 pick on him, but they’ll be sorry when he develops into a playmaker at the next level.

  36. D says:

    Round 1 Pick 14: DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville (A)
    Round 2 Pick 15: Denzel Perryman, ILB/OLB, Miami (Fla.) (C+)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Mitch Morse, OT/OG, Missouri (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 13: Charles Gaines, CB, Louisville (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 14: Gerod Holliman, FS, Louisville (B-)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Darren Waller, WR/TE, Georgia Tech (B)
    Pretty solid draft i think. I considered a DE for the 6th round pick, but couldnt pass up Waller. Even though i do feel it changed the level of need for DE this year, im not sure we address it in draft without some sort of picking up of extra picks. There are some potential UDFA guys who i think might fill the spot vacated by McCain, when he moves up to Jordans place, or could equal Jordan’s production if they decide to keep McCain as a LB.

  37. wyoming85 says:

    Matty I ‏@TheMattyI · 2h2 hours ago
    Great read on Gurley – recommend taking 5 minutes to read it.

  38. getterdone says:

    No on Parker, even @ #14, just trade down. I don’t like the fractured foot he had last year.

    • D says:

      He came back after and put up a seasons worth of receiving yards, etc in a half a years time. If his foot was still fucked up, he wouldnt have been able to do that.

      • D says:

        If you fear his foot but have no issue with Gurley’s ACL im not really sure what to think about that. Parker played since, Gurley hasnt, ACL is a very important thing for players who pivot and shift directions, his running game is based around that. Id be WAY more worried about Gurley than Parker.

      • getterdone says:

        I’ve read that clean ACL tears with today’s modern surgery only have a retear rate of about 2%.
        Whereas what I posted above about foot injuries leading to other lower leg injuries or refractures in that foot is more common.
        We don’t need another Hakeem Nicks on our hands.

  39. Mike E. says:


    Holliman has really fallen on First Picks board. He used to be an “A” in the 3rd RD, now he’s a B- in the 5th. Funny! I know the guy didn’t help himself at the combine and his pro day, but man, that guy has instincts. I guess his attitude and desire could be a problem.

    • getterdone says:

      I like the other safety on his team.

    • D says:

      What i have read is a lot of people have studied his film and think he is a feast of famine guy and got his stats in bursts in games against inferior opponents. They fear his lack of experience at the position as well. He could be an example of someone that looked great on paper and then once the layers got peeled back stopped impressing as much. I ten to think a 5th round select is easily worth the risk that we can develop him further and get him to where he needs to be, id be really hesitant thought o take him much earlier.

      • Mike E. says:

        Someone broke down his film, it may have been Gild Brandt, and Holliman actually explains all of his INT’s what coverage he was in, and what the QB was doing. It was impressive. I’ll see if I can find it.

  40. Mike E. says:


    I wouldn’t be shocked if Cameron Erving was a target, but ,mostly after a trade back, but then again, like you said, who knows?

  41. getterdone says:

    Wyoming, very good article on Gurley. I’m feeling him more and more now.
    As I’ve said since day one. I wanted Miami to swing for the fences with a special talent, weapon, that can help Tanny & the Phins score points and demoralize teams.
    DGB was one that jumped out at me sans the off field stuff, then Gurley, but his knee was a concern, but that has lessened with time now since we are now right at the draft day.

    ps. WR Perriman jumps out at me as well.

    • D says:

      Im about even Perriman or Gurley if Parker is gone. Neither to me though scream stay put at 14, both id probably take my chances on after trading back.

  42. D says:

    The great thing about Gurley and why he actually may be out pick at 14 is he shines as a player even if you take away all the statistics. He is passionate, hard worker, deidicated to his profession and he makes shit look easy sometimes. I truly think he is a 1 out of ever 5 years kinda player, but i do worry about the ACL. I know the success rates of recovery and potential for re-injury and at other positions, id probabyl agree, but his running style and just the RB position in general id be a lot more concerned with ACL. Hell look at Albert and all the troubles he has had, and the re-injury, and his position, while has a lot of pivoting, is nothing liek a RB. I definately would take Parker over Gurley, but Gurley intrigues me so much with who he is im not sure if many else would be my choice after Parker, even with potential red-shirt year. Lots of internal conflict on how i feel about him.

    • getterdone says:

      Gurely over Parker all day and twice on Sunday’s for me.
      I see other Parker’s up n down this WR draft class.

  43. New Age says:

    I like Gurley or Parker at 14. I like Collins but only if he can find a quick solution to the Jordan problem…hopefully somewhere in a Louisiana swamp Lol, yeah that guy has me a bit tiffed.

  44. Great job Mike E!! Hopefully we have no Dion Jordans in this draft. Have a great day!! 🙂

  45. D says:

    To me the most shock i expect from us will be when we select a person, whether we trade up, trade back, or even trade out, im just curious to know and will be most shocked with that. I cant really get a solid feel on what i think is best for us to do so im assuming it just means any would work, hence the surprise that will come. With the numerous player we brought in, however, i doubt the player we pick will really surprise me unless its a really shocking overdraft or a guy with so many red flags it just doesn’t make sense.

  46. Mike E. says:


    I found this one, but there was another clip I had watched, where Holliman discusses the coverages he was in for each and every INT he had, it was very interesting. Can’t locate that one.

    • getterdone says:

      I kinda like his teammate Sample better, good in zone coverage or playing inside the box which is key cause it will be cleaner with Suh gobbling blockers.

      • Mike E. says:

        Holliman definitely has issues, attitude, and he tackles very poorly. You can’t teach instincts though, and he has those. I’d take a late RD flyer on him, see if he’s a guy that can be worked with.

  47. dbolt48 says:

    In a different news story, recently a photograph that apparently showed Bill Bellicheat staring get at Christy Theigens ass has proven to be a fake by commissioner Goodell. Please see his statement below:
    “After a thorough investigation by the NFL and Ted Wells it’s been determined that Bill is not present in that photo. What we found was this just mirror behind Ms. Theigen and was just a reflection of her ass-hole!”

  48. getterdone says:

    Well, we knew this was inevitable….smh! Cue whistling sound as he tumbles down the draft boards.

    Ian Rapoport ✔ @RapSheet
    #LSU OL La’El Collins is leaving Chicago and the #NFLDraft to cooperate with authorities in Louisiana, source says.

    Ian Rapoport ✔ @RapSheet
    Originally, La’El Collins planned to submit to paternity tests on Monday after the draft. It’s clear the situation requires urgent attention.

  49. Al in MIA says:

    Well twitter is blowing up with news that Cleveland has offered the Titans 2 #1 picks in exchange for the #2 overall (to draft Marriota or Winston).

  50. getterdone says:

    ESPN Browns reporter Pat McManamon reports Cleveland is offering two first-round picks to the Titans for the No. 2 overall pick in the 2015 draft.

    Man can Browns F’k up a wet dream or what…lol SMH

  51. Al in MIA says:

    Mike E,
    Agree, Holliman is a ball hawk and that is the primary skill needed in a FS (not tackling).

  52. Al in MIA says:

    I’m joining GDP in adding Parker to my 1st RD ban list LOL.

  53. Al in MIA says:

    LOL on the Belicheat checking out John Legends girl….to Bill’s defense though, it seemed like his eyes weren’t even open (in the pic I saw) and everyone (4 ppl?) behind Teigen was checking out that ass LOL.

  54. Al in MIA says:

    LOL. Mistake by the lake…I bet both Winston & Mariota will be praying that they don’t end up in Cleveland.

    • getterdone says:

      Titans will accept Rivers deal if SD is for real, and who wouldn’t.
      It saves Ray Farmer from F’kin up another draft right out of the gates…LMAO.

  55. Al in MIA says:

    This is who the Fins need to call in dealing with Jordan…..

  56. stangerx says:

    getterdone says:
    Well, we knew this was inevitable….smh! Cue whistling sound as he tumbles down the draft boards.

    Ian Rapoport ✔ @RapSheet
    #LSU OL La’El Collins is leaving Chicago and the #NFLDraft to cooperate with authorities in Louisiana, source says.

    Ian Rapoport ✔ @RapSheet
    Originally, La’El Collins planned to submit to paternity tests on Monday after the draft. It’s clear the situation requires urgent attention.
    OUCH for him (and Mike E). This ain’t about a paternity test, that could be done by stopping into a local testing facility. And it is more than the folks in Bayou country asking to meet with him. They have no legal right to insist on that, unless someone is willing to issue an arrest warrant or material witness order (which means they need probable cause).

    Only way other than bad news for him is that he is getting on a plane to resolve whatever they want before the draft happens, which would make sense cause it means major bucks to him.

    • getterdone says:

      It’s a scramble for his professional life as well as maybe his life in general.

    • stangerx says:

      Big Q is which of those. For draft position or criminal defense?

    • D says:

      Yeah i said it earlir, the BF/Husband is ALWAY primary until they have significant information to lead them otherwise, and that includes an alibi for where he was. People dont always do their own dirty work. Especially since its possibly his baby and he is about to get a pay day, someoen was about to be due a big paycheck in child support, number 1 motive for murder….money, either collecting it or protecting it.

  57. getterdone says:

    LOL @ Al & Homey the Clown, who don’t play dat!

  58. getterdone says:

    Phins are very high on this kid, he was one of the very 1st they brought in for looks. But I’m not sure about a 1st round pick, even in a trade down scenario.

    ESPN NFL Insider Jon Gruden sees Utah CB Eric Rowe “as a man who can cover a third receiver the way Devin McCourty of the New England Patriots can.”
    “Rowe can come down in the box and be solid in all areas. I think he will be a great contributor right away on special teams,” Gruden wrote. The commentator loves the prospect’s versatility. “It is great to have a player on your team like Rowe to whom you say, ‘Hey, we are seeing a team that plays a lot of four wides this week, so we need you to play a dime corner,’” Gruden said. “Or you could put him at left corner in an emergency situation. Rowe might be one of the real finds in this year’s draft.” Rowe’s stock is surging. It wouldn’t be a surprise if he went in Round 1.

    • D says:

      Id be hella suprised if he went in the 1st….like floored, but i could see him as a day 2 pick and would be pretty surpised if he didnt at least find a team by then

      • rgs322 says:

        Great timing on the Rowe post, he’s my current man crush. I was hoping to get him with the 2nd round pick, now I’m not to sure he’ll even be there. In my dream draft scenario I had us taking La’el in the first and Rowe in the second. Now, I would love to trade down in the first and trade up in the second. That way I could get Rowe with one of the picks and either Erving or Fisher with the other. …Then get me Hardy in the 3rd or 4th round.

  59. D says:

    Him leaving possibly the biggest moment o his life could only have been supplanted by returning for a potentially bigger event.

  60. D says:

    If i were Titans id be asking the Browns to give up a 3rd 1st. 2 this year and next’s as well. Fuck it, thats a team of desperation they are likely to agree to almost anything.

  61. getterdone says:

    Ray Farmer with Johnny Manziel

  62. stangerx says:

    If I was ever good enough to be a first round NFL pick, this would be me in the months leading up to the draft……except when my agent let me out for the combine, visits and workouts.

  63. finfanrob says:

    “After a thorough investigation by the NFL and Ted Wells it’s been determined that Bill is not present in that photo. What we found was this just mirror behind Ms. Theigen and was just a reflection of her ass-hole!”

    LOL. but i am willing to bet her a-hole looks better then what was in that pic.

  64. wyoming85 says:

    Andrew Abramson retweeted

    PB Post Sports ‏@pbpsports · 18m18 minutes ago
    Facts, figures to help you follow Miami Dolphins in NFL Draft

  65. wyoming85 says:

    Armando Salguero‏@ArmandoSalguero

    Armando Salguero retweeted Matty I
    The Dolphins have GREAT connections at LSU/Baton Rouge. They will know what is going on.

  66. getterdone says:

    C’mon, Ray Farmer beating Johhny Football with a bat is funny stuff…LOL

  67. Tim Knight says:

    The Browns trading up to #2 might be part of another trade with the Eagles where the Eagles then trade for the #2 pick and send Bradford to CLE and obviously other picks so they can draft Mariota. I heard about this scenario last week on WFAN.

  68. Al in MIA says:

    LOL @ pic in reference to Manziel & Farmer

  69. Tim Knight says:

    Great job, Mike E.

  70. finfanrob says:

    so the nfl can suspend jordan, fine the jets and browns for various violations but they still cant figure out who the hell let some air out of footballs. it is glaring obvious that the N in nfl stands for new england. guess those on here who said the nfl would never resolve this before the draft were right.

  71. getterdone says:

    Would be wild if we draft Gurley in 1st, then WR Conley in 4th to all join up with the curious case of TE Arthur Lynch already on our team. 😉

  72. dbolt48 says:

    Omar doing what he does best:

    @OmarKelly: There’s honestly nothing special about Jarvis Landry. He know Miami’s offense from LSU, played early, & got fed a lot.That’s it.Tough WR tho

  73. Tim Knight says:

    Yeah okay Landry is just another guy. LOL

    • getterdone says:

      84 receptions because Wallace, Hartline, Clay & Lamar Miller were so horrible…lol

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Omar also tweeted that there are 31 guys with more yards than him last season

      1 on almost each team
      That made me laugh

      How many of them are rookies?

  74. getterdone says:

    If I’m Browns or another QB hungry team, I don’t trade away multiple picks just to get Mariota, or Winston…I instead sit back and get Grayson or Carden a lil later.
    These teams are nuts….SMH

    Glad we got Tanny!

  75. finfanrob says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    April 29, 2015 at 2:19 pm

    What does LSU and Miami’s offense have to do with one another?

    nothing, but he got people to repost it and talk about it.

    • getterdone says:

      I know right, so why do people keep acting shocked by his stupid tweets or even posting reasons why he tweets…lol

  76. Al in MIA says:

    stems from Cam Cameron as Landry’s OC coach in college I guess (if there’s any relevance to what current coaches run in Miami).

  77. Al in MIA says:

    That would be awesome …let’s just throw in Marpet there to make it perfection 🙂
    Reshad Jones would be sharing the Dawgs love while Jenkins/Gillislee will be giving them all the finger.

  78. Al in MIA says:

    Conley & Smelter would be instant wood (not going to happen but it’s ok to dream LOL)

  79. finfanrob says:

    if the dolphins want to get to the playoffs this year they will start josh freeman.

    there now all i need to do is grow some dreads, shrink about a foot and a half and grab some shoe polish and i will be just like the clown

  80. Mike E. says:

    “Police emphasize La’el Collins is NOT a suspect”
    Any further questions regarding my client, please refer them to me. lol

    • Tim Knight says:

      I think he’s more of a person who knows the woman kind of like when Pouncey was interviewed because he knew Hernandez. There doesn’t seem to any connection with him and her death. But this is really bad timing for the kid. I’m sure teams are looking heavily into it to know for sure he’s not considered a suspect at all.

    • rgs322 says:

      You know how it is anymore, guilty till proven innocent. 😐

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah and that’s really unfortunate. Suspects aren’t convicted until proven guilty but sometimes they are retained and not free until they’re officially cleared.

  81. getterdone says:

    With La’el Collins issues and all other things considered, I think I’m down to my final 2 @ #14
    Gurely (Miller is coming into last year on rookie deal & Gurley is a 3down RB with power too)
    If we miss on Gurley, Perriman (He’s the big WR outside threat & can turn even short passes into big gains with his RAC, we can work him in with Jennings and eventually fill Jennings shoes).

    Both players are good characters & hard workers.
    Either player will HELP our franchise QB immensely…IMO.

  82. Tim Knight says:

    Nelson Agholor appears to be very much a 1st round pick. I’ve seen him in the teens a few times now including Buck Brooks’ mock who I like.

    • dbolt48 says:


      • Tim Knight says:

        But opinions on him vary from different draft pundits but that’s what makes the draft process fun. Nobody really knows who the gems will be. We all know some of the top picks in this draft will not pan out as projected, happens every year while other lesser projected prospects prosper.

      • dbolt48 says:

        Exactly. It’s funny because when I look at how I rank players I have 2 different systems. System 1) is overall potential and capability. 2) Miami specific and whether that player is 1st round value for Miami opposed to how his value is perceived by others.

  83. getterdone says:

    Jim Corbett ✔ @ByJimCorbett
    NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock on La’el Collins “Bottom line is if it’s not wrapped up before tomorrow night he won’t gi in the 1st round.’

    • Mike E. says:

      My guess is it gets wrapped up before then. If he’s truly not a suspect, they don’t want to ruin the kids livelihood. That’s my thought.

  84. Mike E. says:

    Day before the draft draft

    Your score is: 6808 (GRADE: A-)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 14: Kevin White, WR, West Virginia (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 25 (CAR): D’Joun Smith, CB, Florida Atlantic (A)
    Round 3 Pick 25 (CAR): Marcus Hardison, DT, Arizona State (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Jordan Hicks, OLB, Texas (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 25 (CAR): Rob Havenstein, OT, Wisconsin (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 13: Charles Gaines, CB, Louisville (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 14: Mark Glowinski, OG, West Virginia (A-)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Karlos Williams, RB, Florida State (A)

  85. Mike E. says:


    He’ll be innocent before the draft. I’m confident of that, and that we take him at #14

  86. Al in MIA says:

    This is the Titans front office at work

  87. Al in MIA says:

    How can anyone take Brooks mock draft seriously?
    Shane Ray to the JETS? GTFO lol.

    • Tim Knight says:

      That was before the marijuana thing happened and he just stuck to his original board. But I saw him on the NFLN today and he said it was a bad move at the wrong time for him as a highly rated prospect. The draft is constantly evolving right up until it happens. See my post below, we don’t really know what will happen and who will be right and wrong. There are always surprises.

  88. Al in MIA says:

    I’m getting that feeling I did when I wanted CJ Spiller back in the day. I want Gurley (1 of 3 options if stuck at 14) but think he’s probably going ahead of the Fins.

  89. Mike E. says:

    I’m thinking if Dolphins want Gurley, he’ll be there at #14

  90. Tim Knight says:

    After years of following the draft I’ve stopped getting too caught up in favorites because as fan mocksters we’ve all been wrong when we thought a prospect was a lock to be good and they either become mediocre or bust. Whoever we draft there will be fans who scoff at it and say we made a mistake, but let’s not forget NFL front offices do a lot of work trying to put together their boards and have different values on prospects just like the mocksters and fans do. The difference is they’re the ones who actually pick the prospects and invest in them.

    So whoever we pick I will root for them and watch and see if we were right or wrong because in the big scheme of things we don’t really know.

    Last year Daniel Jeremiah had Ja’Wuan James at #50 on his board and James performed like a 1st round pick when we took him at #19. So don’t let the mocksters brainwash you into thinking what they say is law. Enjoy the draft, don’t let it piss you off. LOL

  91. Tim Knight says:

    dbolt48 says:
    April 29, 2015 at 3:35 pm

    With their 2nd round pick in the 2015 NFL draft the Vikings select
    “A one eyed, one horn, giant purple dildo eater!”


    Rick Spielman says I’ve always wanted one of those, since I was a kid. LOL

  92. Mike E. says:


    I agree with your 3:32PM post.

  93. finfanrob says:

    Try Pod says:
    April 29, 2015 at 3:21 pm

    You mean he uses shoe polish to get his sun tan-like complexion?

    no way Try, that would be racist, i just wanted to have shinny shoes. LOL

  94. Al in MIA says:

    Dane Brugler ‏@dpbrugler 3m3 minutes ago

    Gruden comparing Amari Cooper to Tim Brown when he came out of Notre Dame is the best comp for Cooper I’ve heard. Similar styles/athletes.

  95. Try Pod says:

    You’re right- no one knows what will happen. But we are doing exactly what the nfl wants, which is to make their product as relevant year round as they can possibly make it. It’s also fun to speculate (at least for some), and it’s mostly harmless- but as you said, we are (collectively and individually) wrong more often than we are right, and we’ll all root for the player no matter who it ends up being.
    Unless it’s DGB. Or Tyler Varga.

    • Tim Knight says:

      LOL and I agree. We’ve seen it so many times, half the 1st round doesn’t produce the way they were projected and guys in later rounds become really good players. Let’s find those guys.

  96. finfanrob says:

    Try Pod says:
    April 29, 2015 at 3:57 pm

    But he wears “Jordans” or sneakers or whatever kids call athletic shoes nowadays.

    hold on. he wears jordans? oh then fuck that, i no longer want to be him.

  97. Al in MIA says:

    I’m rooting for Scherff to fall to at least 14 so that things can get really interesting LOL

  98. new age says:

    A lot of talent might drop. That is good news for us.

  99. Tim Knight says:

    This draft seems pretty good through 3 rounds and then like most drafts it kind of thins out but there are still always prospects available who will pan out. Finding a small school guy like Fede in the 7th is a good example. He was as about as impactful as Dion Jordan as a rookie so you never know.

  100. drg says:


    Agreed on the draft. I don’t really follow it much for time reasons and because only a couple of guys will end up on the Dolphins. I get it though. It’s fun to project and run through all the possibilities and it does make it more fun to follow the guys you’ve researched when watching on Sunday.

    I pretty much will root for the guys being talked about on this board. If Gurley is a special talent, he would probably be my preference. I never realized what an elite RB can do for a team until we got Ricky Williams. If Gurley is anything close to that level of player then he would push our offense to new heights. Collins makes sense, although it is painful to think of how much we have invested in the OL over the years with lackluster returns. I’m not a huge fan of taking WRs early. Would prefer we pick up a guy of value in the 2nd or later. Having watched Strong, I would love us to get him somehow.

  101. Al in MIA says:

    ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 43s44 seconds ago

    Dion Jordan: I deeply regret putting myself in this position

  102. naplesfan2010 says:

    I’m not up for a draft with all small school guys but the top 2 again. I mean it worked OK last year, but we need those 5th rounders this year and especially the round 4 guy to play quality minutes right out the box this year. Some guy like Waller for example who might not be a starter for 3-4 years but WILL be a situational (Red Zone) guy right away.
    Or Blake Bell who has potential to learn the position and be great in 3-4 yrs but can be in on a 3TE “tackle eligible” cheatriot type gadget play right away.

  103. Al in MIA says:

    The only thing countering a Gurley pick in RD 1 is the perception that this is the deepest RB class in not just years but perhaps a decade or so.

  104. naplesfan2010 says:

    My response to Dion Jordan’s aplogy?

  105. drg says:

    FWIW, my opinion on the Utah players since Miami’s scout really loves the program:

    Orchard – I would be cool with us taking him in the 2nd. Athletic, excellent work ethic and character. Should be a 10 sack/season guy as a 4-3 DE. Size against run might be an issue. If he falls to third would be a real bargain.

    Rowe – Great kid. Very athletic and versatile. Doesn’t have great instincts as FS, but will rack up 100+ tackles and does a nice job in coverage. Wouldn’t complain if we took him 2nd round, but honestly I felt like he might be going too high based on what I saw in college.

    Poutasi – Take him in 4th or 5th and he will start at G for us for the next 8 years. Nothing special, but he would be solid.

    Kaelin Clay – If I could get one Utah guy on the Dolphins this year, this is the guy. Best returner I’ve seen here since Steve Smith and that’s saying something since we’ve had some good returners (Shaky, Dunn, etc.). I also think he could develop into a very good slot WR. I really, really fear NE picking him up late or as an UFA.

    Dres Anderson – I’d only take him as UFA or 7th round. Talented at getting open deep and high pointing ball, but drops too many and not a great possession guy.

  106. Tim Knight says:

    It’s interesting looking at our draft board in the video with John Congemi with Dennis Hickey you see what I think is our horizontal board with every team in the league at the top. My guess is this electronic board allows us to track who’s been drafted and where and still see our value board simultaneously. Really cool what technology brings to the draft. No more magnets, pencils and erasers. LOL

  107. Al in MIA says:

    Quite a contrast to Ireland’s draft board :/.

  108. naplesfan2010 says:

    I would love to get CB Rowe out of Utah in the second, but he’ll be gone before we pick.
    I think we can get Charles Gaines in the midrounds, and he would be a nice guy to spot play now and develop to take over for Grimes down the road.

  109. Tim Knight says:

    drg, we didn’t make the playoffs with Ricky until 2008 when he shared the workload with Ronnie. We traded for him in 2002. The current NFL is not RB driven. Yeah Marshawn Lynch is an impact RB but their team feeds off defense. I’m still not sold a top RB is the way to go.

  110. naplesfan2010 says:

    I would look at UDFA Quayshawn Neeley, ILB, GaTech 6’ 236 who had 8 INT and scored 4 def TDs.

  111. Mike E. says:


    Sorry, ran out to do some errands and wash my car. Yes, we’ve been there done that, so no need to get angry if the pick isn’t a guy we expected. Last year, I was all over the Ja’Wuan James pick. I predicted it, and stood by it, and for once, i was actually right. That was the only time I ever got one right. I hoped we drafted Tanny, but I didn’t think it was going to happen.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I know you were on the Ja’Wuan James pick. I was touting Morgan Moses and James was the right guy. I’ve gotten a few right over the years but more wrong and then the trade up or down surprises.

      • Mike E. says:

        That was actually the only one that I can remember that I got right, at least 1st RD. I think I’ve gotten the right guy in other rounds, but that was the only 1st RD pick I got right.

  112. Mike E. says:

    If we do draft Gurley, as I’ve said before, we’re not rushing 15-20 times a game, but more like 25-30, with him getting 70-80% of them, or there was no reason to draft him.

  113. drg says:


    There were plenty of reasons we didn’t make the playoffs those years, but when Ricky was motivated he wasn’t one of them. The year he ran for over 2000 and we crapped the bed in the last two games to miss the playoffs I still believe we were a top 3 SB contender.

    Remember the noticeable difference in our running game when Moreno played? And I don’t even think he was anything that special. If Gurley is the best RB prospect to come out of college since AP like some guys are saying he would be worth the investment. A special talent at RB would make this offense really dangerous. Backs get really good looks if they know how to find the gaps in the ZBS and a guy that can make the second level tacklers miss could get our offense over that 25 ppg plateau that seems to be a marker for playoff level offenses.

    I have no clue if Gurley is that good. If not, then let’s get a back in the 4th or 5th round since there are a ton of good ones out there this year.

    • Mike E. says:

      drg – True that Moreno gave us some pop, but that was just one game. I think if opposing defenses started game planning for the heavy dose of running, it wouldn’t be as successful. I could be wrong, but that’s how I see it.

  114. drg says:


    How many rushing attempts did we average last season? I would think it was around 20-25. Our offense is much better when we rush a lot on first and second down. Tannehill is a nice threat in the read option. He also did a good job avoiding big hits last year and is really durable.

    • Mike E. says:

      I’d say we averaged that most games, but sometimes inexplicably, we shelved the run game too fast. It was eerily similar to Sherman’s offense in that regard. I don’t think Miller ever had 20 carries or more.

      • Mike E. says:

        Just checked. Miller once, in ’13 had 22 carries, but never again. There were games he averaged over 6 YPC, and still didn’t even get 16 carries. Why?

      • dbolt48 says:

        The answer is simple, his success was based off the read option. You can’t keep using your QB as a decoy and allow him to take cheap hits. This is why a lot of pundits think Gurley is a viable option for Miami.

  115. Al in MIA says:

    Article at ESPN today on DGB background to the NFL.

    I guess the one good thing about his character is his commitment to football (he practiced all year on the scout team despite being told he wouldn’t play at all that season).

  116. Tim Knight says:

    drg, Ricky did have like 1,850 and was great but not over 2,000 and we still lacked top level QB play. So maybe a special RB with Tannehill will be the difference, I’m just not sold on it. I’m also not sold that a rookie WR will get many reps with Landry, Stills. Jennings and even Matthews. I know that doesn’t scream dominant but when you add the TEs and RBs and everything we do, it might be a good offense as is. We’ll see.

  117. The Flying Pig says:

    It would be really cool if we drafted DGB, Marcus Peters, La’el Collins, Randy Gregory, Shane Ray and then gave Dion Jordan one more chance

    We should also hire Robert Downey Jr as coach

  118. Al in MIA says:

    Mike E,
    Regarding Gurley, I still believe that in the modern era you can’t push a back over 300 carries in a season (300/16 = 18.75). They break down and many have worse seasons following 300+ carry season. 18 a game is a good number to go by (288 carries a season).
    I expect more touches with Gurley out there but instead of pure running plays, more on the receiving side.

  119. The Flying Pig says:

    The D in Dolphins stands for ‘second chances”

    Let’s trade up for Winston too

  120. The Flying Pig says:

    Honestly I look at the players I listed above with baggage
    and I look at the the elite players

    and I think as a whole this draft sucks

    I have 3 impact players with no baggae
    Kevin White
    Amari Cooper
    Trae Waynes

    I would include Gurley if he wasn’t coming of an injury but even you Gurleyfanatics no coming off an injury is risky

    This draft is so bad, if Cadillac Williams was available I would probably take him

  121. drg says:


    Yeah, my bad on the record season. I really like Lazor’s offense. I think the schemes are really solid and allow an offense to move the chains without elite skill guys. Where we struggled was in red zone and big plays. That’s where one or two elite guys should make a difference. Not sure Parker is that guy. Seems like a great fit for our offense, but not a true RZ threat. Hoping Cameron fills that void for us this year?

    From what I’ve read on Gurley he has big play ability, is a great passing threat out of the backfield, and can get first downs in short yardage situations. I definitely want to see us use the read option, pistol, and other spread run concepts in heavy use this year. It plays to Tannehill’s strengths and we are much more dangerous and unpredictable. Would like to see more play action out of it and test the middle of the field with seam routes. Screens are finally an effective weapon for us. Miller is a nice player, but if we could complement him with an elite RB that would make us dangerous.

    It really shouldn’t be that difficult to find a good guard later in the draft. I know we’ve been trying forever, but come on…. Mike has a good point about Collins holding down the LT spot until Brandon is healthy. Makes sense and I’ll sign on if that’s the route we choose to go. Would love a trade down this year.

    • Tim Knight says:

      It’s funny, we struggled in the red zone because we got there a lot. But that’s also how we scored 90% of our TDs. We didn’t score from outside the red zone very much. Miller with his 97 yard TD run in the last game was the longest score. I’d say maybe we had 3-4 outside the red zone but not sure.

      • drg says:

        I think the RB position gives us the best chance to bust some long TDs in this offense and considering the WR personnel. A good power RB and creative run schemes in the red zone should be able to improve our %.

  122. drg says:


    I meant total team carries. Seems like the days of one guy carrying the ball 20-25/game are all but done. If you have an elite talent then you probably go that direction.

  123. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    April 29, 2015 at 6:16 pm
    I know you were on the Ja’Wuan James pick. I was touting Morgan Moses and James was the right guy. I’ve gotten a few right over the years but more wrong and then the trade up or down surprises.
    Mike and i told you but nooooooo you wouldnt listen…… We were right about Gabe Jackson too….in case you were wondering….

  124. D says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    April 29, 2015 at 6:33 pm
    Honestly I look at the players I listed above with baggage
    and I look at the the elite players

    and I think as a whole this draft sucks

    I have 3 impact players with no baggae
    Kevin White
    Amari Cooper
    Trae Waynes

    I would include Gurley if he wasn’t coming of an injury but even you Gurleyfanatics no coming off an injury is risky

    This draft is so bad, if Cadillac Williams was available I would probably take him
    What baggage does Dante Fowler have….

    • D says:

      Also if your including Waynes in that, you should include Scherff, Peat, Dupree, Beasley, and probably Kevin Johnson as well. Id personally take Waynes out and just put Fowler in there and then yes thats pretty much the fact of the matter. Hell id go as far as to say Cooper and Fowler are really rare players with little to no baggage or concerns. Easy selections.

  125. Mike E. says:

    LOL @ D

  126. naplesfan2010 says:

    Ameer Abdullah seems like a 110% class act. I would love him as the next Darren Sproles.

  127. drg says:


    That’s why I like trading down. Get as many 2,3,4 round selections as we can and fill some needs. Some of those guys will be special, some busts, but at least we increase our odds of finding them. If the FO is sold on a guy being an elite talent then let’s get him in the first. Maybe it’s even worth trading up for White or Cooper?

  128. Mike E. says:


    I’m not saying that every single game he has to get 25-30 carries, but there are games when you’re up and want to grind out the last few minutes, or you need a spark, or whatever it is, I see no need for an artificial cutoff. It’s unnecessary.


    I don’t believe for a second that the only reason Miller had success was because of the read option. That’s not fair at all.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I agree. When the ZBS is working Miller really excels and explodes through the hole for chunk yardage. He plays quick and fast and doesn’t dance around. He’s a quick one cut runner and go and then he can make a move or two more at a high gear. However, he does not possess all out take it to the house speed. He even almost got caught on his 97 yard TD run. He’s like 4.5 gear. LOL

  129. D says:

    Ok im about to say it, cant believe it but its about to happen…
    Melvin Gordon over Gurley if at 14 Parker is gone………..

    • dbolt48 says:

      I personally like Gordon a lot. Called him better than Gurley at the beginning of last year. With that said I think Gurley offers more inside capability while Gordon is much better coming out of his cuts for big plays.

  130. Mike E. says:


    I agree with that, and that’s exactly what Gurley is advertised to be. If he wasn’t, why take a RB at #14?

  131. Mike E. says:


    I like Abdullah as well, but he might just be a change of pace guy, not sure he’s an every down back, although he’s very talented. Not that much different than Miller actually.

  132. stangerx says:

    ”I apologize to my teammates and the Dolphins organization…..I will stay in excellent physical shape and look forward to returning to the NFL as soon as possible. I’m deeply grateful to my family and friends for their continued support.”

    From Dion Jordan’s press release. No……he didn’t offer to buy back Mike E’s jersey.

    • D says:

      Canned response…..filth be gone.

      • stangerx says:

        He didn’t even write it. For that matter he talked about how his “diluted test” was to blame and was trying to sorta blame the heightened scrutiny cause of being a two-time offender. It was like, “a guy with a record just can’t a break in this world.”

  133. naplesfan2010 says:

    I don’t exactly understand the “diluted test” thing, I mean I understand what the words mean, but what was diluted? What was it diluted with? and who diluted it and when? Is there not some little old lady watching these guys pee? Do they just mail in a coke bottle full of piss? did Jordan think he could pour some Perrier in his pee and that would make the heroin less of a percent?
    Somebody please explain this to me.

    • Tim Knight says:

      He tried to mask what he was taking.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        so he’s stupid.

      • steveccnv says:

        Stupid yes, but he just got caught, maybe he’s naïve or maybe he has a serious problem (I believe the latter). The guy that owned the house I lived in, in Tahoe had 2 DUIs, so he stopped drinking in the US 100%, but as soon as he got out of the country he’d get shit faced. One time they said as soon as he flew over the Mexican boarder he popped open a beer. That’s what Jordan needs to do, go cold Turkey.

  134. Tim Knight says:

    Without bias or personal preference, who do you think we take at #14 or do we trade or up or down and for whom?

  135. herdfan says:

    F*ck Dion Jordan. I hope he screws up again and gets banned for life because I don’t want him coming back to play well for another team and I sure as hell don’t want him in Miami. I hope another team never touches him when he is allowed back. I hope he never plays another down of football. I hope he spends the remainder of his life in a menial, low paying job that gives him ample time to reflect on how stupid he is. That pretty much wraps it up for me.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      well said

    • Tim Knight says:

      I don’t think he’ll play another down for us. Yes he is stupid. Or he’s just not into being a pro football player. Thanks, Dion.

      Focus on Chris McCain who may become what we envisioned for Jordan and he was a UDFA at low cap.

    • steveccnv says:

      He’ll be fine when he comes back in the future 2018,2019, 2020 or when ever it is, you gotta have faith. Why wouldn’t you want him to come back and be what we thought he could be when he was drafted? so he smoked a couple of doobies big deal, the NFL wants to take guys from the hood and turn them into choir boys, get serious.

  136. The Flying Pig says:


    I don’t think fowler has any baggage

    But none of the edge rushers are elite IMO
    But they may be good football players

    I forgot to include Williams

    I should have said him
    I like Danny Shelton too

    I like Waynes more than most

    But I don’t think his draft is as strong as most drafts

  137. getterdone says:

    Here here…lol

    ESPN NFL Insider Jon Gruden says of Iowa OL Brandon Scherff: “He is probably going to be your best left tackle … your best guard … your best right tackle.”
    “What is Scherff going to be? Who cares!” Gruden said. Here, here. The analyst’s take on Scherff mirrors Rotoworld’s. “Scherff has great awareness, he will compete, and if you are a nickel blitzer coming off the corner, if he sees you, it might be over,” Gruden said. “We saw that in the Pitt game. He inflicts pain when he delivers a block. He uses his hands well, keeps his head out of it. Do I wish that he had longer arms? Yes. Do I wish he had the prototype measurables? Yes. But I still want Scherff on my team.”

  138. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, this draft is not loaded with special prospects. It’s more deep with solid and upside than great.

    • getterdone says:

      I disagree…I’ve really come around on Gurley. He’s special. I think he’s worth a chance to make this team great. It still helps Tanny a lot too.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I can’t call a RB off of season ending knee surgery special. We’ll see.

      • steveccnv says:

        Broaden your horizons Tim, look past opening day.

      • stangerx says:

        steve — we might take Gurley, but the reason to do so is talent. Miller looked darn good last year and Philbin needs at least 9-7.

      • steveccnv says:

        We need Gurley for the 2nd half anyways, when the rest of the team is starting to wilt as usual he’ll take over.

  139. stangerx says:

    Just like that unheard tree falling in the forest, if a baseball game isn’t watched……did it actually happen?–spt-0430-20150429

  140. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, what if Gurley is never the same – lost his quick twitch power? I’m just not high on drafting a prospect off of surgery at the top.

    • steveccnv says:

      If you want a top talent like that at #14 the only way to get him is, if he has some issue. You have to take a calculated risk, they had him in, they have a pretty good idea, if he’s going to come back strong or not. This isn’t the 70’s medical staff performing the surgery.

  141. getterdone says:

    Tim, that’s why I said I finally just came around on him. I was letting everyone else tout him for awhile.
    I read up on and waited for medical rechecks.
    He had a clean tear, not meniscus damage, very crucial to healing and future performance.
    He has a bout a 2% chance of retear, and his rehab is on pace way ahead of its time like AP did, who then ran almost 2000 yards,.

    Swing for the fences on Gurley, Perriman, or DGB baby!

    Gurely seems the safest of those three big talents!

    • Tim Knight says:

      We’ll see. DGB and Perriman are not high on my list but I’ve been wrong before.

      Landry, Stills, Jennings, Cameron are probably the focus of the offense right now with Miller and Williams also in the mix.

      Our FO seems to be more focused on trench play – Mitchell, Suh, Albert, James and Turner. That said it doesn’t mean we don’t go skill at #14 but the way the season ended last year was on the trenches.

  142. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – That’s a damn shame that game in Baltimore.

  143. Mike E. says:

    LMAO!!! Who knew?
    Poleen Ca ‏@PoleenCA 2m2 minutes ago

    A pig’s orgasm lasts for 30 minutes.

  144. The Flying Pig says:

    Only 23 hours until the draft

    Which is more than enough time for another top prospect to get arrested

  145. getterdone says:

    Tim, we have already been addressing the trenches. We’ll still see an OLman drafted, but maybe not the 1st this time.
    I still think Miami knows that Mathis will be released, and have told him he’s got a spot here that he agreed upon. We’ll see.

    • getterdone says:

      Tim, besides, I thought you was wanting special? You’ve mentioned it a bunch.
      Do you think the only special players are ones we’ll have to trade up for?

      BTW, Gurley could easily now go Top 10….IMO. That would suck.

      • Ken says:

        If Gurley goes top 10 that means some other really good talent slides 1 position closer to us.

  146. Tim Knight says:

    Rioting is an act of evil and defiance, it should not be viewed as a grass roots movement against injustice. It’s an excuse in bad behavior for injustice. It will not improve anything. How does looting and setting fires improve social justice? Ugh!!! SMH

  147. Ken says:

    Nice job Mike E. Question is a little dated though. LOL.

  148. Ken says:

    At Camden Yard tonight the sound of hand clapping.

  149. Ken says:

    Guys I took a shower today. Where did everyone go?

  150. Ken says:

    We are exercising our option for Tannehill’s 5th year. Will cost $16.1 million next year.

  151. Ken says:

    Only Wyoming wanted to talk to me. Oh well. I need to get some sleep going to be a late couple of nights coming up. I was kind of bummed today when I found out tomorrow I have to go to a client meeting on a big case up state tomorrow at 4 p.m. But worst case scenario I am home before 8 so I shouldn’t miss a thing. I am out. Peace to you all.

  152. son of a son of a shula says:

    Maycock has us taking Kevin Johnson at 14. Shoot me now, I won’t even watch the rest of the draft if he’s our pick. Total buzz kill.

    We go and get a guy who stomps on people’s faces then pick a tiny finesse corner to start our draft – Yuck.

    Stej and Buff don’t have QB’s and the QB in the division who is good doesn’t usually have top end receivers but wh’re gonna go and get the “safest” corner in the draft. I call BS. Don’t let this happen Hickey.

  153. The Flying Pig says:

    Dolphins exercise 5th option on Tanny!


    • Mike E. says:

      I wanted them to sign him to a long term contract. This is what I was afraid of, that $16M salary. Between him and Suh next season, $44M.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        It’s just insurance and place holder for the big deal. That 16 mill is less than the franchise tag is so at least they have time to get the deal done.

  154. son of a son of a shula says:

    With a playoff run Tannehill can parlay that fifth year option into a $120 mill deal. Lauren would surely be excited. I wonder how many more AK’s she’d buy.

  155. Mike E. says:

    Heading off to sleep! Tomorrow is Draft Day, I need to save my energy! Goodnight!

    • The Flying Pig says:

      You think you need to save your energy before the draft

      Whichever prospect or two gets arrested tonight needs to save their energy to to spend the entire day tomorrow pleading for a 2nd chance

    • olddolphan says:

      GOOD NIGHT, Mike E.!! – – Figures to be a VERY interesting night tomorrow in Chicago! —At least there WON’T be hundreds of obnoxious Jet fans making absolute jackasses of themselves on TV!! – – I want to thank you and Piggy for keeping us so well informed on the upcoming draft. You’re BOTH so much better than that admitted bacon eater Mel (as in “HELL”) Kiper!!

  156. olddolphan says:

    WHAT A GREAT NIGHT to watch sports on TV!! – -First, the Lightning eliminated the Detroit Red Wings with a 2-0 win in game 7 here in Tampa!! –Earlier, the Rays beat the Yanks 4-3 in 13 innings. –THEN the Marlins won the 3-game series vs. the Mets as Ichiro Suzuki hit a 3-run bomb to supplement Stanton’s 2-run blast off of Sumo wrestler Bartolo Colon!!
    ICHIRO – – – all I have to say is WOW!! – – 1278 hits in the Japanese Major League and 2859 hits in the American Major Leagues!! – – He’s the ONLY PERSON EVER to get over 200 hits in 10 consecutive seasons of U.S. Major League baseball!! – – In 2004, he eclipsed George Sisler’s record of 257 hits in a season with 262 hits – – a record I doubt will EVER BE BROKEN!! – – Amazingly there are still a few who DON’T BELIEVE Ichiro belongs in the Hall of Fame!! – -But I predict THIS SEASON he will win over nearly all his doubters!! – – With starter Christian Yelich of Miami down with a back injury, it’s possible Ichiro could start over half of the Marlins 162 games this season in left field. If he does, he figures to be in the neighborhood of 2950 hits in the U.S. majors by year’s end. Next season, with a little luck, ICHIRO will surpass the 3,000 hit plateau, insuring his enshrinement in Cooperstown. –He is truly one of the greatest players in the history of baseball (besides being modest to a fault).

  157. jahndoh says:

    I don’t know if the hand mashing over Gurley’s injury is because people aren’t reading what’s out there on him, or because they don’t realize his injury and it’s repair was simpler and cleaner than APs and he’s several years younger than AP was at the time with far less mileage on his legs.

    There’s always a risk taking a guy coming off of surgery, but if you could go back and get AP (without the off-field baggage) the season after his ACL, you’d draft him 1st overall. Ladanian Tomlinson and other football people call him the best prospect SINCE AP, and I think that’s the kind of player that puts us over the top to become a contender. Our offense will be geared for the long haul and tooled to hurt teams in several ways. Our defense will be geared toward owning the LOS and destroying QBs.

    Sounds pretty good. In the spirit of “swing for the fences” that GDP has espoused all offseason, I say if Gurley’s still on the board ( I think there’s a 50% chance or more he’s gone tbh) take him and get ready to see a Fins team that doesn’t fold in December (and beyond) but rather, one that comes into it’s own.

    This article is chock full of factual information on a guy who could become the next Miami Dolphin, so I suggest those who haven’t been following Gurley much since he’s hurt and they took him off their boards…use it to learn about him. I had some revelations myself. Leg extensions and Single legged squats? Same weight (heavy!) on both legs!

    Instagram video of him sprinting on a treadmill…can you tell which leg is injured (if you didn’t already know..)? I sure can’t!

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