DRAFT DAY 3 WRAP UP
The Dolphins went DB crazy on Day 3.
But they also made a couple of moves that should make the “we need to run the ball” enthusiasts happy.
There were no Trade Ups or Trade Downs in Day 3.
In the 4th Round with the 114th pick the Dolphins selected the big guy you’ve been waiting for.
Jamil Douglas is a 6’4, 304 pound offensive guard and is said to be a good fit in a zone blocking scheme.
Then the 5th round frenzy began!
With their first pick in the 5th round, #145, the Dolphins selected Good Ole’ Bobby McCain, a 5’9 CB from Memphis. Every time you say his name, you can also hear the sound of a harmonica playing…try it!
Just 4 picks later, with the 149th pick of the NFL draft, the Dolphins drafted what some are describing as a steal. The very productive Jay Ajayi is now a Miami Dolphin!
Jay Ajayi can do it all: Run, Catch and Block!
^^^^^^^
Gonna run you over!!!
The Dolphins had back to back picks in the 5th. So with the very next pick, the Dolphins took their 2nd DB of the draft.
With the 150th pick of the NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins selected Cedric Thompson, a free safety from Minnesota.
Think the Dolphins are done at DB? NOPE!
Well, maybe nope…
With their final pick of the 5th round and final pick of the Draft, the Dolphins selected Tony Lippett, the wide receiver/cornerback.
Lippett started games at Michigan State at both WR and CB. Many scouts project him as a CB in the NFL.
This pick might take time to develop. Trust me this pic is an interception return…
LET’S GO 2015!
Finsmob Unleashed 
The colts sign Tyler Fucking Varga
What is wrong with Hickey?
So which UDFA did we sign?
UDFAs
Mike Hull ILB Penn State 6’ 237 Big Ten LB of the Year
Jeff Luc ILB Cincy 6’1 251 4.6 40
Zach Vigil ILB Utah State 6’2 240
Nigel King WR Kansas 6’3 210
Mickey Baucus OT Arizona 6’8 293
Ellis McCarthy DT UCLA 6’5 338
Tim Semisch TE N Illinois 6’7 267
Neville Hewitt ILB Marshall
Demarr Aultman WR Maine
Christian Jones WR Alabama 5’10 182
Mike Liedtke OL Illinois state
Kendall Montgomery DL Bowling Green
Andrew Franks K RPI
Matt Darr P Tenn
Lemar Durant WR Simon Fraser U
Damarr Aultman University Of Maine Highlights
He looks like a sad, square-head
That’s better…
Tim Semisch NIU Highlights
Matt Darr will be our punter this year
Stanger’s looking for you.
What’s up FUers? Better day yesterday than Friday. I still don’t get nor like the Jordan Phillips pick but overall that seems to me as the only blemish but it’s potentially a big one because we could have had Fisher or Perriman there instead. I am still having a hard time wrapping my head around that pick.
ken its a good player, I understand the position pick being a head scratcher but if the had ideas for adding a DT then he was great value. Perryman was simply someone they were not that impressed with. They did their homework on him multiple interviews and still passed. Fisher is the same deal. They wanted an OG prospect and felt the wouldn’t get versatility from him that they could play him there. I’m sure they had their reasons and at the end of the day Phillips was BPA
Late addition to the UDFA last night:
Ray Drew DE UGa 6’5 284
(replacement for Dion Jordan)
Today’s existential question:
Can you replace something that was never really there?
Lol, nice, almost dao like
That’s deep Bro.
Christion Jones Goes Off
Lemar Durant #23 WR
That Black Bear WR highlights above were outstanding. What a slippery runner after the catch!
Nigel King WR Kansas
I mentioned it yesterday. Jones is a really good return guy. Return specialists in our system also make good receivers because yac skills are really closely related to getting yards in kickoffs. I wouldn’t be surprised if he hangs around at least making PS this year
I doubt the kicker or punter we brought in have a snowballs chance in hell of making the team but would be foolish not to bring someone in to compete
I give the kicker a better chance than the punter.
Neville Hewitt ILB Marshall
I like the kid from Maine as a KR/PR … plus he did a lot with a terrible QB. I counted at least a dozen poor throws that were caught by our guy.
How’s your head this a.m.? I’m a little eh, but I’ll live…
Mike Liedtke Highlights–Illinois State Football
Andrew Franks RPI KIcker Junior/Senior Year Field Goals
Andrew Franks RPI KIcker Junior/Senior Year Field Goals
Fail
D:
In response to your post to me about Phillips above. I didn’t see Phillips as BPA in that position nor a pick based on need. I thought it was a reach on a position we are relatively deep at. Phillips has an injury history and bad motor issues. I would have been happier taking Jalen Strong or Maxx Williams in round 2 before we took Phillips. I just don’t like the pick. It didn’t fit a need and I don’t see it as BPA. Obviously it’s not my draft board so who knows but Hulk was very angry over that pick.
TryPod … slept in till after 8AM so head’s ok … 6 cups of black coffee since and I’m good to go.
(Lawn mower is safe till evening tho LOL)
Morning drive by over peace to you all.
Ken everybody certainly understands your take on the Phillips pick, but they really wanted him after they had him down here and he met the DL coach. They think he has a very high ceiling and that new DL coach we have is a no nonsense role model that made the kid want to be a better guy.
We did get badly gashed in the run game last year, and this guy will eat up blockers so Suh can stuff the RBs. We have to stop LeSean twice and Chris Ivory ran over us also last year.
You need an extra kicker and punter so you don’t overwork your real guys and come up with a pulled hammy or quad. With all the practice that the special team return teams need, it is a lot of work for one leg. It’s a long way from here to September.
yeah I meant that sarcastically about a UDFA replacing a 3rd Draft bust.
Kiper gives the South Florida franchise a B.
http://www.thephinsider.com/2015/5/3/8539367/mel-kiper-draft-grades-2015
You have to look at every prospect through the Suh prism. Everything has changed. Suh isn’t a wide eyed rookie he’s here to take this team to a whole new level.
Phillips is very well spoken very gifted and according to Hickey there was an earthquake from the defensive coaches when we picked him, they love him.
Senior Bowl Spotlight: ASU OL Jamil Douglas
http://www.49ers.com/video/videos/Senior-Bowl-Spotlight-ASU-OL-Jamil-Douglas/c3dc9908-1ea7-4e55-bd4e-41409c0dcd37
So I finally get the chance to sit down in the airport yesterday during my layover and learn who the Dolphins picked. Every TV in the bar is on the Kentucky Derby……which still wasn’t going to be run for like an hour and half. Errrrrg.
We had a pretty awesome draft I think
LMAO
PhinNation.com @PhinNation · May 1
Any chance a team would take Daniel Thomas off of our hands for…I don’t know, their draft day pen? Or a dry erase board?
He’s already off our hands. We didn’t resign him.
Son — haven’t looked into the players in-depth, but saw some interesting trends on D.
We put our 2nd into what looks to be a run-stuffing DT.
We brought in a bunch of DBs.
We didn’t even touch LB…..where we seem to need a starter.
Thinking maybe with Suh and now a stump in the middle…….they are thinking our true base D is the nickel. And if you can stop them from running btwn the tackles with just your DL….why not?
Bored this morning so I posted a bunch of Vids on the UDFA up the page!
Good for you dude. Helps a bunch of people…..just not me. Don’t scout all the draft prospects and only really check out UDFAs when it looks like the at least might make the team. Consider it efficient use of my limited mind. 🙂
We picked up 4 linebackers as udfa including Hull and Luc. We should be fine.
I love the composition of the team as we head towards the new season.
Have no doubt we want LBs, but not using one of those five third day picks on one is still curious. Maybe we trade or bring in a cap cut from another team, but it just might mean that part of what we paid for in Suh is not having to have a third LB on the field most of the time.
Son
I’m glad to see your “happy” at least not pissed off about the draft!
For all of those who are pissed off!
I said before the draft that Hickey doesn’t give a rats ass about Kiper or our draft evaluations!
He has his and that is what he goes by period. ( that is a capital . by the way )
Who we thought should be the picks in the 5th went UDFA’s or late 6th – 7th picks!
After it’s all said and done I don’t have an issue with Jordan Phillips, but at the time with our need at OG I was thinking are you kiddin’ me.
We lost 2 DTs in FA, so we did have a need for a DT. Looking at his tape he’s not impressive and an underachiever, but I think his game translates to the NFL, because he has an NFL body and is a space eater/double teamed type of player. Hickey said, when watching his tape you have to think about what his assignment was on the play. He does show flashes at times that he can be great. I think at worst we have a solid run stuffer.
The gems on day 3, added to what was done in FA, gives me hope that we’ll be a playoff team, and if not it wasn’t because of the talent on the field. What more can you ask for in one off-season where so much change took place? In the past we’ve all said they can’t fix everything in one off-season, but I think they pretty much have.
Stanger
The LB’s we would have drafted in the 5th went UDFA’s
They must not have liked Dawson?
Kendricks and Bernardick were both gone!
Wilson in the 2nd? NOT
Not saying we couldn’t have moved up IF one of the LB’s were worth it?
Dawson had some off the field issues, so he must’ve been off the board.
Remember I didn’t watch. But I take it you are saying the value just wasn’t there. If so maybe it is just props to Hickey for not reaching.
Cedric Thompson Jr.™ @cedjunior2 · 2h2 hours ago
Am I really a Dolphin? Or was that just a dream yesterday? #PhinsUp #StrongerTogether #GodIsGood
Sounds like a good young man!
You’ll realize its true when Pouncey gets to the second level and pancakes your ass. lol
Pouncey aint getting to a Safety!
I like him but he’ll have to stop and change hats before then! 😉
Grading The Miami Dolphins 2015 Draft
OVERALL GRADE
B+ It might be a little high and perhaps should just be a “B” but the potential of Parker, Ajayi, and Douglas elevate it a little higher.
http://phinphanatic.com/2015/05/03/grading-the-miami-dolphins-2015-draft/
LOL!!!
So the expert pisses all over himself grading the draft and one of our posters writes The LB’s we would have drafted in the 5th went UDFA’s.
Good morning guys.
I was busy much of the day yesterday but saw on Twitter some of the names the Fins were signing out of the UDFA pool and saw Mike Hull & Zach Vigil were among them. Good stuff and see why the Fins weren’t overly concerned about LB depth (front office must have felt ok about the starters at least and were comfortable taking the developmental guys who would be backups anyway). I kept asking around (Steve CCNV) if people had seen him often or if they had links to video on Vigil cause it was hard to come by for me. He is a fast LB. Hull must have scared people with his injuries but he’s got the potential to be a very good one. On talent alone (without discounting for injury risk), he’s better than Tripp/McCain.
This should be televised instead of Kipers Hypers!
Miami Dolphins @MiamiDolphins · 2m2 minutes ago
.@MDCheer Audition finals are underway!
It’s good to see that Hickey understands the importance of giving a Herd player an opportunity as an UDFA each year in order to keep me happy. 🙂
Hickey throws Herd a bone, so to speak, each year
Your Vote Counts
http://www.dolphinscheerleaders.com/you-pick-the-squad-2015.
Son,
Am I mistaken, or was the wedding THIS weekend?
No next weekend
OMG NEXT WEEKEND
Lol. You’ll be ok dad- just breathe..
Hickey has a swag in his interviews this year, not cocky, not phoney either, he just seems sure and confident. The whole front office seems jazzed, and why not they poured a ton of gravy on top of Suh.
Senior Bowl: Lineman drills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtzsgEgPhcs&feature=youtu.be
Son — I heard about one wedding back our way from a guy who was there. Fairly nice event but at the end of the night a dispute broke out btwn the families about who got to take the left over booze home. It turned into a full-blow brawl with both sides battling it out like gang war including both fathers and a bunch of arrests. Thankfully that was after the bride and groom had made their exit.
NEVER gonna happen with us but holy crap that’s insane. First I don’t give enough of a shit about who takes what and this isn’t a redneck weddin’.
So we signed a ton of UDFAs including 4 LBs some of which I saw on a few of the 17,000 mocks posted here. LOL
Day 3 turned out very well for us including the UDFA’s. Overall, I’m pleased with the draft although I still hate the Phillips pick. 2nd rounders shouldn’t be wasted on project DT’s who are not self motivated to stay in shape and always give their best effort …IMO
Son
I think I see your philosophy now. We have Suh, so every single player on offense and defense is going to play better. He was always the missing link.
Exactly
Like the common ancestor bridge between humans and Neanderthals?
Wyoming, see my response above under your 11:18 AM post. I love it when one of our own shows up one of the pros.
Was Rex Ryan the father of the groom???
That question is for YOUNG STANGER.
LOL. Yep — and in his wedding toast he predicted “this will be the greatest marriage in the history of all time.”
Before today we had grades, and projections and all kinds of people telling us when someone was supposed to be drafted!
Today we know exactly when someone should, would, and will be drafted!
Yesterday don’t matter anymore! 😉
Bat — Philips was a head scratcher. I’m figuring it means we don’t have to worry about the third starting LB much.
I still don’t get the hate on the Phillips pick. He was a 1st or 2nd rd prospect all along. The guy is massive, powerful and athletic.
This idea he isn’t always motivated is said about a lot of big men every year and the talented ones usually pan out anyway. Let’s give the kid a chance as opposed to passing judgement on him before he even puts on a Dolphins uniform. He should help us in run defense right away while we develops the rest of his game.
One of his issues in college was he played too many downs. OU must’ve been thin on the Dline.
When we look at almost every other position we take into account how the player’s game translates to the NFL, so the same thing should be done with Phillips.
I think our biggest issue with him was we took him instead of taking a OG or ILB, then it was compounded by his tape.
Bottomline is the D coaches were ecstatic with the pick.
Getting Douglas in the 4th and Ajayi in the 5th went a long way for missing our 3rd. I’ve never seen a Fins draft before where I felt every player taken had the chance to be special (since last yr probably 😛 ), but all kidding aside I really like this draft class.
In the future we should try to get multiple 5ths, what a difference that makes. At least this yr the guys available have a chance to be more than JAGs.
I liked this so much!
next year I want to switch it up a little though
I want 5 4th’s 🙂
Stanger …Maybe Phillips will surprise me and play nearer to his potential and physical gifts. He’s shown no desire to do so thus far.
I think at worst he’s Paul Soliai.
I like the Phillips pick, because in theory, he was a good pick in the 2nd RD, a 1st RD value. I don’t like that they left Jake Fisher and Ali Marpet on the board, especially with acquiring Suh for $1B this offseason. Not sure why you can’t comprehend that.
Maybe we didn’t have a high grade of Fisher and Marpet.
Possibly, but it seemed like other teams did, and didn’t have a high grade on Phillips. We’ll find out who was right, and whether they dropped the ball big time on the O-line.
Bat, it goes like this you take Phillips and the math looks like this
Fat + lazy x athletic, physical, smart ÷ √ Suh = Monster
LOL
“The guy is massive, powerful and athletic.”
Tim …But he couldn’t, or wouldn’t stay in shape. Almost every scouting report on him references him getting gassed in games or giving up on his pass rush if he didn’t get by with his initial move …This baby comes wrapped in red flag swaddling clothes …IMO
How much will we ask him to do? Do we need him to apply pass rush or just stop the run? Will he be a part of the nickel or dime packages?
It’s not the draft i would have done but the Fins did pick up some quality guys and people I had in my value mix per position (Douglas at OL; Cedric in the secondary; Hull, Vigil, & Luc for LB).
Only 2-3 teams who stood out to me (made me go wowzers) drafting talent/need with good risk/reward.
Ravens (outstanding); Steelers as well as Packers stood out.
Team that left me wondering wtf was the Giants…talk about wierd draft, hope it works out for them.
The Niners took the all potential club (Eli Harold, DeAndre Smelter, Blake Bell, Trenton Brown, Rory Anderson) lol.
Going back to the Dolphins and particularly the AFC East, LOL @ Patriots draft as well as Jets & Bills. They took about 2 players I liked (Jets/Bills) but also made a couple head scratch picks based on value where taken. Comparatively, I think the Fins drafted the best out of the AFC East teams and not because I’m a Fins fan. I thought the Fins draft was ‘safe’ and some guys needing development were taken but they are solid fins. Hickey continues to impress with his UDFA signings. This guy makes Ireland’s acorns look like cow dung.
Bat, like I said we’ve seen reports on big men like that for years and many times they mature and become very good pros. Let’s hope that’s the case with Phillips. The one thing we can’t deny is he has the talent to be very good.
I’ll say I like jets dratca lot too unfortunately for us. They did really well but they also had higher round picks so its expected theirs should look good. I think ours us more exciting and engrossing. We have a bunch of guys who are going to gave to earn spots. Hungry driven guys who are going to hopefully scratch and claw to stay on the team. I like our UDFA guys and would expect at least two of the lbers to make the 53 so that’s pretty exciting too.
I think one thing we all have to understand us you have to draft people worth their projection and if we passed on guys then they were not the right value and like had as much chance of starting next year as the UDFAs. There is always next year which I think we forget. We may find our starter then can’t fill every position every year
My 3 biggest issues coming into the draft were:
would we draft an OG that could compete for a starting job.
would we have a team that was paper thin, one injury (Suh) away from our season being over.
would we get firepower on O that would allow us to compete with the cheats in a high scoring game.
None of these issues/concerns are really issues to me any longer.
Steve
Soliai was a 4th RD pick, and we also let Soliai go because we wanted to get more athletic, no?
I figure we didn’t keep Big Paul cause the price tag was too high. When guy hits FA it not a “do you want to keep him or not Q.”
executive Chris Grier explains why Miami drafted Cedric Thompson and Tony Lippett
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-dolphins-talk-about-thompson-and-lippett-20150502-premiumvideo.html
Son .. The mystical magical Suh was unable to transform lazy fat Nick Fairley into a monster, I don’t envision him faring any better with Phillips.
LOL @ the mystical magical Suh
Mike E,
Interesting enough, the Bucaneers did a “EH” thing as well in the same RD miami did with Phillips when TB took PSU OT Donovan Smith at 34 overall.
There were two moments in the draft where i went “GRRRRRRRRRRRRR” and that was when the fucking Kendricks in front of the Fins and also when the Bears drafted Amos a few picks before Miami had a ton of 5th rounders lol.
Here’s a follow for Jahn!
Funky Buddha
@funkybuddhabrew @CPoTweetsStuff @AbramsonPBP the gurley talked got me excited to attempt a strong beer. So we are thinking a 14% (draft #) Parker Porter.
Is that really Jahn?
No
I was saying Jahn might want to follow him
Thanks, even I’m wishing that Jahn put that out and you were the follow right now.
Mike E, I’m not as concerned about the OL as others because I do believe in development and young players taking the next step. I also don’t think Fox is bad so we have depth. I also believe a lot of our guys in their 2nd season under Benton and his scheme can’t be overlooked.
He also believes in unicorns and the Belly Button Lint Fairy, so… 😛
I like the Cedric pick. Saw him when i watched video of Brock Vereen last year.
Mike, I said at worst he’s Soliai. Phillips is a lot more athletic. The point was we had issues stopping the run last yr, and this pick should take care of that (along with Suh).
Also our division runs it well so we have to match our opponents. Our run defense should be a lot better. A healthy Misi could help that too so let’s hope he has his best season ever! 🙂
Tim,
Same here as my concern was with only 1 OG spot in general.
I firmly believe Turner can win one of the OG spots and I’m at the point with Dallas that he probably will be just a jack of all trades swing OL who will line up where needed based on emergency (ala the new Garner).
As far as the injury to Albert and his recovery or future medical risk, contrary to most people here, I feel comfortable with Thomas at RT & James at LT. I think Thomas at this point has better prospects at OT than OG but that’s just an opinion i guess. People only remember the bad plays when it comes to Thomas but reality is when you are doing fine 65 out of 70 snaps, that’s success. Really the bad came against NFL elite DE and by elite I mean top 5 edge rushers and that’s not anything to be ashamed of.
Agreed but Thomas is going to work at LG for now and we didn’t see him play there much last year. Turner only played a bit in the last game but coaches and players including Pouncey see great potential in him. Also Douglas fits what we do on the OL so we’ve got some more competition at guard.
Our OL will look a bit different this year so I don’t focus on last year where we had to use basically all of our guys in patchwork fashion due to injuries. Sure that could happen again but that was kind of an anomaly. I think/hope we’ll find our best 5 this year and have solid depth when needed. There were moments last year when the OL looked good. Let’s hope they get better and are more consistent this season. We do have talent.
Our FO sees Lippett as a CB, but I wonder if they’re going to consider using him as a redzone WR? The redzone package could be Parker, Cameron, Lippett, Stills, and Jennings/Landry/Ajayi. Could be special.
Detroit Suh was the prologue
Miami Suh is Legacy time
Fear not Dolfans
I never heard that From Detroit?
Except when he was suspended!
I hope we never hear the IRE of the fin fans if Suh stomps on Brady’s head and gets suspended!
The Lions had Suh, and were 10-6, 4-12, 7-9, 11-5. The Suh theory didn’t work for the Lions, but then again, they didn’t have Jordan Phillips. lol
Mike E,
I think Fisher/Marpet may have been within range of Phillips but the team looking at its horizontal board was really concerned about DT. Suh was signed but god forbid this man gets injured.. You want that position down to Mitchell, Johnson and AJ Johnson?
One thing that I do like about Hickey & Tannenbaum is that they came from organizations that emphasized OL/DL play and specifically DL.
If you want to dominate, you need a rotation of guys who can grind because it’s a very physical position and people get tired throughout the game. Got to throw everything at an OL and make them work all 4 quarters hoping they break down.
Going back to the OL thought in this draft, OT isn’t pressing need and OG ranks lower in team value ANYWHERE in the NFL comparativiely to DT.
Like you’ve said many times, good GMs find guards in the mid and late rounds, anyone can draft guys in the 1st round.
Tim
Whoever isn’t worried about O-line should be. It wasn’t good when Dallas Thomas played. Billy Turner is a ?. Suh should play 2 ways this season, DT and OG. Earn his billion dollar contract
When Dallas Thomas played where?
For the Dolphins. lol
Jordan Phillips & Suh have something in common, LOL….
TONGUE SWAG!
LMAO — and love the hair cut on Phillips…….lots to work with for the special rookie haircut…….could go 3D.
We almost lost to the jets on the Monday Nighter, because of the run D, and the reason we did lose the finale was, because we brought guys up to stop the run. That won’t happen this yr.
LMAO
You’d think Phillips was an UG TE or something? 😉
No shit. If you can’t be jazzed up and excited about how this team is constituted right now then I can’t help you. I’ll be with the ones loving this shit. Time to roll.
Mike … LOL .. Yes, that’s it … Jordan Phillips is the catalyst .. The final piece to the puzzle that will unleash Suh’s incredible ability to raise a team to a championship by sheer force of his will …lol
Suh also gets suspended from time to time, so…
We can’t forget that last year we knew the transformation on the OL wasn’t going to be a seamless. OL needs chemistry and we didn’t really have a chance for that last year with everything that went on. I think we have a better chance to start off with more continuity this year.
We officially have a new whipping boy. LOL
No doubt. You have a big contract and you are in the cross hairs right their with everyone who either owns the team or is in the FO and your name is known.
I’m talking about Phillips.
Really you think Suh is whipping boy Stanger? Sorry if I find that absurd, but I do. Accountable and Whipping Boy are two totally different concepts.
Based on the stream thread thought you were going Suh, but based on the reports of not living up to potential…….I’m all for close scrutiny on Phillips.
And Jahn — not to all, but Tanny has certainly been a whipping boy. So don’t find the thought that absurd.
I find that absurd too. I’m all about calling out absurdity when I see it. LOL…Yeah, he only threw for 30 TDs a 2-1 TD to INT ratio, 65% completion, mid 90s rating, and 4k yards. Yeah ok…we’re definitely entitled as a fan base to bitch about a QB who does that. LOL!!!!
Mike E,
Yea the OL wasn’t terrible because of Thomas. James was wearing down late in the season and people were going by him at the same rate they were going by Thomas from the other side of the OL. Pouncey had his brain fart moments at RG and LG was a problem once Colledge was dazed and confused with migraines.
Son … People find reasons to get jazzed up and excited at this time every year .. Then the team goes out and wins 7 or 8 games .. I’ll keep my excitement in reserve, to be deployed at a more opportune moment .. lol
People find reasons to get negative and caustic at this time every year. I’ll keep my negativity in reserve to be deployed at a more opportune moment. 🙂
Ah…the universe feels right just about now.
I’m not worried about the OL. Douglas has starter potential. Turner does too. Folks will say that’s a “question mark” but that’s every player before he has a chance to prove himself. All I know is that we get better at LT because Albert is coming back. We then get better at RT because James goes back to the place he excelled last year. We get better at center because pouncey is way better at center than guard. We get better or stay the same at guard because /turner/thomas/douglas/fox/college are either the same guys who’ve started their before or are better.
We get better all around because Benton is in his 2nd year and he knows wtf he’s doing on the OL.
In the end this is all about the 2nd round choice, and hell if ANYONE knows Ali Marpet the D3 king is going to be better for the team than Phillips is. Collins was never an option for any team. This really isn’t such a travesty, it’s just that we can’t get through the draft without the gnashing of the teeth and clenching of the jaw. It’s in our nature. LOL…
One thought I came out of this draft with is that they have faith that Turner will be a starter.
Every team in the NFL relies on “question mark”s every year. The questions are more ours then they are the coaches though. The coaches have more information than we do. In short, agreed. It seem apparent Benton (one of the all time best) thinks our current “question marks” can get it done.
James, Turner, Fede
Phillips, Douglas
When you do the math that’s a third of Hickey’s Dolphin draft picks on Linemen. 5/15
Y’all begrudge Hickey his first DT, shame on you, DT’s are job savers.
When QB’s look across the line and see Suh and Phillips all crazy eyed with big ass tongues hanging out and they shit their pants that’s when you’ll understand. lol
Because while they’re trying to sidestep those guys Olivier Vernon and Cam Wake will be lining them up in the crosshairs.
Jahn … LOL ..We are the yin and yang of fandom …
LOL…kudos on the quick image Son!
Bat – I’m not down on the team by any means, but am I fantasizing that we’re great right now, hell no. I’d like is to change our philosophy on offense though, and run Ajayi over some defenses, that is, if our O-line is up to the task. We’ll see.
Miller had a very good year but I also hope we commit more to the running game and I love the addition of Ajayi. That helps the entire offense and especially the OL because it allows them to move forward and not sit on their heels all game.
Jahn, Turner is given the question mark as a 2014 3rd pick who had a nagging turf toe injury and barely played yet a 2015 2nd rd draft pick at guard would have been considered the solution. LOL
Turner is healthy now, he played some in the last game. Let’s take it from there.
Mike E,
For what it’s worth, I think Jamil Douglas can beat out Thomas at OG. I don’t know about his pass blocking abilities but Douglas has proven himself in run game. He’s got a strong lower body like Turner & has powerful core base like Turner. Douglas went from LG to LT during his JR to SR year.
This a note from August 2014 discussing his strength:
08/06/14 – Ranking the Top 20 ‘Freaks’ in college football for 2014: 16. Jamil Douglas, OT, Arizona State Sun Devils…A former high school tight end, who weighed 260 pounds as a freshman four years ago, Douglas has blossomed into a standout for the Sun Devils and will become a three-year starter this fall. Now, at 6-4 and 301 pounds, he power cleans 385 pounds, squats 565 and has a body fat measurement in the teens, according to ASU coaches. – Bruce Feldman, FOX Sports
I’d make a small wager that our starting lineup goes Albert-Douglas-Pouncey (Pro Bowlers on either side of the rookie)-Turner-James (high level players on either side of the kid who is a “question mark”).
That’s good hear. I don’t know anything about that kid, TBH
Son … I hadn’t seen the pic before I posted ..Nice …lol
Mike … I’m not down on the team either. …Well except for Bazooka Joe and Cautious Kevin Coyle ..lol.. I just won’t get all hopped up about the team until they do something to merit such enthusiasm ..
There’s nothing wrong with that, I always tend to get over hyped but its fun all we have is hope, I revel in it.
Well and Suh – Hope and Suh
LOL @ Bat – Good thinking!
It’s scary how similar their styles are (Turner & Douglas); both were labeled short armed LT.
This is Douglas in his senior year operating at LT but you can see the style he plays on run downs and it’s very OG like. He gets down and dirty looking to punish defenders.
I don’t know, seems like hoping the offensive philosophy changes is pissing into the wind. If that’s more fun than imagining the same philsophy better executed than it’s all yours Mike. 🙂
LOL..just having fun. But I hate the way Coyle plays his DBs, I’m just not masochistic enough to hope he changes the way he’s always done it.
Bat, when we’ve been healthy Coyle called a very aggressive attacking style of defense. When things started to come apart and he had young guys and guys off the street playing he toned it down a bit. So now that’s all you remember and it’s really not fair.
Jahn — whether the whipping boy deserves the lashes is a different subject. But I am positive there will always be at least one. If he even cares, best thing a guy like Hickey can do is hope all things bad that happen to the team are blamed on someone else like Ross or Tanny.
Before we got hit with a lot of injuries our pass defense was 2nd in the league and finished 6th. So I’m not sure why we care how our DBs lineup.
If you are wondering about Douglas’ state of mind; well he completed his undergrad in Dec of 2013. Spent 2014 enrolled in a masters program 🙂
Here’s a nice write up about his maturity from July 2014
http://tucson.com/sports/football/college/pac-12/asu-s-douglas-has-turned-life-career-around/article_4578def7-eeb0-50ed-a36b-044a7500767f.html
He’s a very impressive young man, he has a bright future both in football and beyond.
Thanks for the info Mike. I’m really impressed with that kid. Watched him play in college, and I think he’s 2nd round potential. Not that that means anything.
Thanks so much to you and to Wyo, who’s videos up the page were freakin’ awesome. Would tame me a couple hours to search those out..he gave them all to us in one blog page. Nicely done!
Sorry, that was for Al. Mike, thanks for all you do too. 🙂