The Porcine Oddyssey #95: Lester Phone smasher

CheatriotsSmash FlyingPigClassic Howayah Football fans! Lestah Phonesmashah here.  You may have heard of me from my notawrious work smashing phones. LesterPhoneSmasherMaster

I got to say.

I hear all these Ideears ah-bout how Tawmy Brady is hiding something from the NFL because he smashed one little phone.

I say to that – GAHBIDGE!

There is nothing conspicuous about smashing a cell phone.

We Ahll do it!

It’s human naycha!

I smash all myin!  The NFL’s decision ain’t worth the Paypah its written on.

We can spend Ouwwahs talking about PSIs and science and stuff – but there is one thing we all have to know in owah hearts.

Smashing a phone is not evidence of anything.  Like I said its human naycha.

There are a lot of times some one might want to smash a phone.

I keep this list of the best times to smash a phone.  Check it out:

CellPhoneDeathList

So you can see how normal it is to smash your cell phones.  I don’t know about you but I’m not ahbout to stawp. broken-iphone

But it goes deepah than that.  Take a look at this phone I destroyed.  Looks like just an Ahdinary broken phone to you right?

Its Nawht

Take a closah look.  When you break down the ordinary cell phone and pull out the chips.  You will find the work of the devil!  Isn’t that a pisser!

SatanicChip

Ya see, all cell phones have these little evil microchips inside.

The microchips are all in satanic cults and they hate football.

Rogah Goodell makes these evil microchips to convince the public to hate football and Saint Tawmy Brady.

Why is Rogah Goodell out to get the Great Tawmy Brady after Tawmy built the NFL?  Because Rogah Goodell is from Brazil and he wants the US to be a soccer country.  We all know this is true right?  If you don’t love the Pats then you might of missed this fact – because you are blinded by your hate of Tawmy Brady.

Which is where cell phones come in and why it’s a good thing to smash one.  If you are not careful your satanic cell phone is going to make you watch a 1-1 tie every Sunday and then make you kick your grandma in the back. Cell phones ruin families too…

Most real football fans have been smashing their cell phones for years!

Still not convinced?  Check out how this autocorrect ruined my life!

Autocorrect Fail So you see, Saint Tawmy Brady was doing Gawd’s work.  He wasn’t hiding evidence.  Rogah Goodell is a retawded demon who wants you to watch FIFA.  Are you a FIFA homo or are you gonna come with me to Federal Court?

I rest my case!

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404 Responses to The Porcine Oddyssey #95: Lester Phone smasher

  1. Rockphin says:

    LOL Piggy.

    Good morning everyone. Have a great day.

  2. jetsssuck says:

    He’s rich. He’s famous. He’s got a famous, wealthy wife. Is it a normal practice for athletes and celebrities to smash their old cell phones? Hacking is sophisticated; could a phoned that’s wiped clean still be hacked into? Isn’t it safer to just smash the phone and move on?

    Maybe Brady doesn’t want his private life exposed to the people inside the NFL who could leak info to the public about his personal life. I can tell you destroying phones is a common practice due to hacking techniques. Stagefright, Lollipop and KitKat are just a few of the hacking virus that are hard for virus detectors. I worked in the telecommunication industry for almost 20 years and if one is going to destroy their cellphone one wouldn’t smash it they would soak in water for 30 minutes or more then leave it out to dry. Rooting is similar to wiping out a hard drive in PC but hard drives you have to wipe it 7-8 times,so they say. The fact that he offered his paper bills with all meta data along with the equipment managers offering their phones with all text messages tells me the NFL’s case is weak. The focus of the investigation switched from psi of footballs to destroying of phone. Goodall’s decision was leaked to the press before the official verdict was handed down. Goodall was judge and jury- doesn’t sound right even when Brady requested differently. Aaron Rodgers said publicly he likes his footballs overinflated and he was not investigated about this statement. This just seems like a longtime Goodall vs NE feud.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Jetsuck
      Destroying the subject f an investigation pending appeal is highly unusual and suspicious for anyone even a celebrity

      The initial wells report, hardly stated Brady’s refusal to give up the phone in passing
      The patriots lack of cooperation was a major factor in leading welsh to the conclusion it did
      So there was no shifting of focus
      The fact that it was done is just a punch line

      The wells report had a lot of evidence to indicate that Tom brady instructed the equipment guy to deflate the balls
      And the psi readings speak for themselves

      The idea the there is a longtime feud between Goodell and the patriots is silly
      The patriots have been caught cheating
      I doubt Goodell wants to punish them
      He has to
      The saints and the dolphins have been under scrutiny as well
      But the cheats have mishandled every part of this
      Capped by destroying a phone
      Which is just a dumb thing to do

      • jetsssuck says:

        The Flying Pig says:
        August 4, 2015 at 6:59 am
        The wells report had a lot of evidence to indicate that Tom brady instructed the equipment guy to deflate the balls
        And the psi readings speak for themselves
        ———————————-
        Show me in Wells report that Brady instructed equipment managers not probably instructed. The equipment managers said they were willing to show all the text messages of their phones. Brady said he would supply all the paper bills that show numbers called along with times. Is the NFL lazy or is this infraction predetermined.What if Brady had a extramarital affair and he didn’t trust the NFL because they leaked info before to the media? Would you trust the league offices after they leaked stuff to the press before. ?

  3. jetsssuck says:

    The Mets are getting closer to taking over the division lead man it’s starting to get interesting for you NY’ers.

  4. Brian in NY says:

    LMFAO Piggy! Great job!

  5. bookman11 says:

    LMAO Piggy!!

    I love the auto correct example!!

  6. olddolphan says:

    NICE WORK, Piggy! Last night, Boulder suggested that all fans are the same and that, if it was proven Miami cheated during their “Run to Glory” in ’72 and ’73, we’d all shrug our shoulders and still say “They Were the Greatest Team of All Time!” NOT SO, BOULDER, NOT SO AT ALL!! –I’d be sickened if it was proven Miami did what the “CHEATS” did to win Super Bowls!!
    —————–
    But, of course, they didn’t. They did not get the benefit of a now non-existent rule known as the “Tuck Rule,” which unfairly allowed the Pats to keep the ball when they had lost it to the Raiders in the AFC Playoffs. The NFL now admits that rule was a “mistake.” NOR did Miami conduct the illegal filming of the other team’s practices so they’d have an unfair advantage. There is no “SPYGATE” in Miami’s repertoire! And, of course there’s no “Deflategate” nor is there a subsequent destruction of incriminating evidence in Miami’s championships! Miami’s 32-2 record was based on hard work, dedication, and the extraordinary execution of game plans and strategies which produced the greatest two year run in NFL history. Those championships were WON FAIRLY!! New England’s “dynasty’ was AND IS, BUILT ON DECEPTION, CHEATING, AND PROVABLE VIOLATIONS OF NFL RULES AND REGULATIONS. They are the “Asterisk Champions” and always will be!!

    • jetsssuck says:

      NOR did Miami conduct the illegal filming of the other team’s practices so they’d have an unfair advantage. There is no “SPYGATE” in Miami’s repertoire!
      —————————————————————————————–
      where do you get this stuff, it’s unbelievable. You really believe they were punished for taping oppt’s practices? The Pats didn’t tape oppt. practices. WoW this is unbelievable.

  7. jetsssuck says:

    Things you didn’t know…………….!!!!!!!!

    Islamic Dancing Rules
    A Muslim couple, preparing for their wedding, meets the Mullah for counseling. He asks if they have any last questions before they leave.
    The man asks, “We realize it’s a tradition in Islam for men to dance with men, and women to dance with women. But, at our wedding reception, we’d like your permission to dance together.”
    “Absolutely not,” says the Mullah. “It’s immoral. Men and women always dance separately.”
    “So, after the ceremony, I can’t even dance with my own wife?”
    “No,” answered the Mullah, “It’s forbidden in Islam.”
    “Well, okay,” says the man, “What about sex? Can we finally have sex?”
    “Of course!” replies the Mullah, “Sex is OK within marriage, to have children!”
    “What about different positions?” asks the man.
    “No problem,” says the Mullah. “Woman on top?” “Sure,” says the Mullah, “Go for it!” “Doggy style?” “Sure!” “On the kitchen table?” “Yes, yes!”
    “Can we do it with all my four wives together on rubber sheets with a bottle of hot oil, a couple of vibrators, leather harnesses, a bucket of honey and a porno video?”
    “You may indeed!”
    “Can we do it standing up?”
    “No.” says the Mullah.”
    “Why not?” asks the man.
    “It could lead to dancing!”

  8. Mike E. says:

    LMAO Piggy! That was great! Brady should have hired Ray Donovan to fix that mess.

  9. Mike E. says:

    LOL @ jetssuck

  10. Mike E. says:

    Which NL East team has Sole possession of 1st place? Yeah, that’s right, the New York Mets! Stay strong Mets!

    • Rhino says:

      I’m jealous. August and September are glorious when your baseball team is relevant and football is getting started. But it is dreadfully uneventful when baseball team is just playing out the season because what football there is available doesn’t feel like enough.

      • Tim Knight says:

        As Mets fans we know all to well what that’s like. This team has been brutal to watch for years until they started to get these young arms up and then the lineup was brutal to watch. Now we actually have a competitive lineup and a chance.

  11. Rhino says:

    list of when to destroy your phone literally made me laugh out loud… “juggle” !!

    …sometimes I fear that one day we”re going to see a news story about a fin fan “going postal” on opposing AFC East QBs: “reports coming in about voices in the head of the suspect…parents may want to monitor children for this segment”
    🙂

  12. Tim Knight says:

    LOL @ Piggy

    I’m tired of this whole thing with Brady and the Pats. I really hope we just smoke them and the rest of the division and be done with it.

  13. Tim Knight says:

    jetssuck, there are times when we are a society of guilty until proven innocent. Defendants for certain crimes are often detained until the trial is over so they’re not free that entire time.

    • jetsssuck says:

      but these people are judged by their peers in a fair trial. Not by one person such as Goodall did with judge and Jury even though Brady requested differently.

      • Tim Knight says:

        The NFL is not society, it’s a sport with its own rules. You don’t have to play for the league if you choose not to. It’s a privilege not a right.

      • jetsssuck says:

        I guess a federal court will decide what was fair

  14. Mike E. says:

    Rhino

    Totally understood. Like Tim said, we’re kind of used to being irelevant this time of year. It’s a real treat to be in it. It’s got my full attention, I’m all in.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Cespedes showed the impact he has on this lineup last night. It’s totally different now. 😉

      • jetsssuck says:

        I would have loved to take the subway this morning to hear the excitement from the mets fans and everyone in general who usually don’t follow baseball. It’s amazing how a sport can lift the spirits of a city

  15. Mike E. says:

    jetssuck

    I haven’t seen Brady, the Patriots organization, or any of the NE rags crying about the Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, or any of the other decisions. This is the league they play in, they should just pipe down, STFU, and deal with the punishment they were crrectly punished for. If Brady had cooperated rather than weasling out of it, his suspension would have been reduced.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Might have been just a fine if he had come clean.

    • Mike E. says:

      The funny thing is, neither Rice nor Peterson’s transgressions had anything to do with football, or have any effect on a game being played in the NFL

      • Tim Knight says:

        That’s what everyone is forgetting. This is a game violation, not a domestic case. It’s an NFL rule, not a societal rule. Citizens can set the psi on their balls to anything they want. LOL

    • jetsssuck says:

      read the wells report and the patriots organizations statements then if you can be objective then you may provide a unbiased opinion. Being informed is the greatest thing when deciding a fact from fiction.
      Just today on this blog OD thinks the Pats spygate infraction almost 10 years ago thinks pats were guilty of taping practices of opponents.

  16. Mike E. says:

    Tim

    Just his presence in the lineup, along with either Kelly Johnson or Juan Uribe and Travis d’Arnaud lengthens and makes the lineup so much more formidable. They had 5 or 6 guys batting .175 to .250. You can’t score with an anemic lineup like that.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Big time! It actually looks like a legit major league lineup now. I did not realize how versatile Kelly Johnson is. He can play the outfield, 2nd base (last night) and 1st. So we brought Conforto back up and put Nieuwenhuis on the disabled list. With Cuddyer and Nieuwenhuis out Conforto will play and the kid hit his 1st HR last night with a 3 run shot. Our bench is better now as well.

      • Mike E. says:

        Yeah, it’s a domino effect. Every legitimate piece in the lineup makes the next guy that much better.

  17. Mike E. says:

    jetssuck

    No shot am I wasting my time reading a 300 page document, but I read all the pages where they discuss the pertinent issues. It seemed pretty clear that the footballs the Patriots had were down about 5psi from the Colts footballs, and there was enough dialogue between the equipment guys to substantiate the issue. Also, the fact that Brady wouldn’t hand over his phone, or more specifically, conversations with the equipment guys is very damning.

    • jetsssuck says:

      Mike E. says:
      August 4, 2015 at 9:54 am
      were down about 5psi from the Colts footballs.

      11.5 to 12.5 is the legal amount. The footbals were measured to within 1 lb of being underinflated. The balls were tested three different times at halftime. Do you think its possible that air was lost during each test? Why are officials allowed to use their own bought measuring gauges and other are allowed to use NFL supplied and Wilson supplied gauges? Why was the colts pressure gauge used instead of the one that was used by officials 2 hours and 15 minutes before game?

      • Mike E. says:

        What’s the difference what gauge was used if ALL the balls were tested. That makes it completely irrelevant

  18. Mike E. says:

    I prefer to throw a slighly deflated football, it’s easier to throw than a hard football. It’s easier to grip. That’s a fact.

    • steveccnv says:

      In most instances it is true, but not a fact, proven by Aaron Rodgers. My guess is, if you have somewhat small hands you’d like the ball to have a little less air pressure. In college the ball is smaller, that’s one reason QBs/Kickers can do things in college, but they can’t in the NFL.

  19. BoulderPhinfan says:

    nice job piggy. that was hilarious.

  20. BoulderPhinfan says:

    this is not good.

    Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley
    Jay Ajayi: Fumble. For all his potential, he’s been a bit of a disappointment so far.

    • Tim Knight says:

      A rookie in his 4th practice of TC? That’s why I’ve stressed Miller as our starter, not Ajayi because he put up huge numbers in college. The NFL is a different game. Miller is a 3 year vet and has gone through all this already.

      • BoulderPhinfan says:

        I don’t disagree. I think willliams and even james will be a bigger part of this rushing attach than Ajayi. At least for the 1st half of the season.

  21. Tim Knight says:

    Mike E, Darling pointed out that when the Mets lineup was weak and struggling they were swinging at balls out of the strike zone. Since the new additions and getting some guys back healthy they’re not doing that now. The result is more favorable counts and putting more pressure on opposing pitchers.

  22. BoulderPhinfan says:

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly now35 seconds ago
    Ryan Tannehill with a 30-yard pass to Lamar Miller, who got plenty of run after catch on it.

  23. BoulderPhinfan says:

    focus!!!!!

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 6m6 minutes ago
    Dion Sims gets hit by Mike Hull and Tony Lippett and drops a pass from Ryan Tannehill. That’s his third drop.

  24. BoulderPhinfan says:

    James Walker ‏@JamesWalkerNFL now12 seconds ago
    #Dolphins DE Olivier Vernon with back-to-back QB sacks on QB Ryan Tannehill. OV beats OT Jason Fox.

  25. Ken says:

    Just a quick drive by before court. LMAO at Lestah the Phone Smashah

  26. The Flying Pig says:

    Jestsuck
    The patriots were guilty of filming practices
    So I’m not getting the distinction you are making with OD’s statement
    What do you think spygate was about?

    In terms of the wells report and the articles (and patriots)response
    You can believe that if you want to
    But I think you are dead wrong

    THe wells report (which I read) set out a logical sequence of facts that would have lead a reasonable person to beleive that Tom Brady directed some one to deflate footballs

    The wells report found that more likely than not a Brady directed the equipment guys to take air out of the footballs

    Different reports and the patriots funding their own response, which was fairly ludicrous, may lead you to doubt the wells report findings

    But doubt is not recent here
    But that is not the legal standard applied here
    The legal standard is preponderance of the evidence
    Not beyond reasonable doubt
    you can find flaws in the process and still think it’s likely Brady did what he is accused of
    So raising doubt is irrelevant

    The question is whether you look at the facts you know and think it’s more likely or not that Brady directed the equipment managers to deflate the footballs

    I think the subject is a bit tired by now
    I really don’t want to debate it
    This piece is just for fun and not to be taken too seriously

    Whether you are convinced with the misdirection and alternative arguments coming our of New England is your business

    But I find it hard to believe that hiding/destroying evidence clears anyone, in fact quite the contrary

    • jetsssuck says:

      where are u getting your facts NE wasn’t guilty of filming practices.They were guilty of filming defensive signals against the Jets from the sidelines during a game. The commissioner sent out a memo which the pats said they never received the memo outlawing filming from the sidelines. It said something to the effect teams can record from the booth only from now on. It was never illegal to steal signals from opponents but when Goodall became commissioner he thought it was for the better to restrict where teams can record.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        What is the point of talking about the difference between filing practice or defensive signals in game?
        Who cares either way
        It’s breaking rules

  27. BoulderPhinfan says:

    I can’t wait to see James in the preseason

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly now32 seconds ago
    LaMichael James with a 6-yard run up the gut on Matt Moore’s unit.

  28. jetsssuck says:

    correction 12.5 to 13.5 lbs for legally inflated balls
    The halftime measurements of the Patriots game balls were recorded as follows:
    Patriots
    Ball
    Blakeman
    Prioleau
    1
    11.50
    11.80
    2
    10.85
    11.20
    3
    11.15
    11.50
    4
    10.70
    11.00
    5
    11.10
    11.45
    6
    11.60
    11.95
    7
    11.85
    12.30
    8
    11.10
    11.55
    9
    10.95
    11.35
    10
    10.50
    10.90
    11
    10.90
    11.35
    COLTS BALLs @ halftime
    69
    the scheduled start of the second half
    .
    40
    Each of the Colts footballs
    ONLY 4 BALLS tested and only 4 passed as legally pressurized but Colts balls were not inflated to proper psi for 2nd half

    Colts
    Ball
    Blakeman
    Prioleau
    1
    12.70
    12.35
    2
    12.75
    12.30
    3
    12.50
    12.95
    4
    12.55
    12.15

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Why is this helpful to the patriots?

      Both the wells report and the Kraft report showed the se stats
      You realize that is shows the patriots footballs below the psi levels consistently right?

      If you looked at these and nothing else
      It would imply the patriots manipulated the psis in the footballs

  29. BoulderPhinfan says:

    nice!

    Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley
    Jamar Taylor has been very good today. Blankets Matthews in the end zone, forcing incompletion.

  30. Ken says:

    Jetssuck I don’t get you man. You seem to be taking exception to just about anything most phin fans would support. I also think your defense of Brady is less than objective. He destroyed a cell phone that he knew was going to be the subject of an investigation. The Pats had an equipment manager that referred to himself as the deflator. The balls went missing after they were inspected by the league. The Pats were guilty of filming other teams walk thrus. They did film other teams signals. But go keep defending them.

    • jetsssuck says:

      I’m sorry you are wrong they were not guilty of filming walk thrus.

      Jetssuck I don’t get you man. You seem to be taking exception to just about anything most phin fans would support.——I am a independent thinker who only views things as objective and I can easily view things objectively but I don’t because the world might still be flat. Sort of like a lawyer I would guess. LOL

  31. Ken says:

    I am off to court. Peace.

  32. Tim Knight says:

    The team is getting in football shape and getting ready for the season. My biggest concern is they get out of TC and the PS without serious injuries.

  33. CavalierKong says:

    It very well may be a common practice for celebrities to destroy their phones but Brady was able to provide the phone he used prior to the now infamous deflategate phone so the fact his prior phone was still alive and kicking makes it pretty suspicious he destroyed the phone that could potentially exonerate him on or around the day it was supposed to be examined by the investigator.

    It’s just another piece of circumstantial evidence, along with the equipment guy giving himself the moniker “the deflator” and the equipment guy having gone against protocol by taking the balls into the bathroom, and the guy getting signed stuff from Brady and texts which make it appear he was getting autographed stuff in return for something.

    The Wells report is full of holes scientifically, no doubt, but there is far too many facts of human behavior to believe nothing happened. If the Pets had taken some responsibility it would have been over and done with quickly. Instead they attacked the league and obstructed the investigation with a holier than thou attitude. That is what this is about now.

  34. Tim Knight says:

    Jetssuck, not sure where this Pats defense is coming from but they filmed the Rams’ practices before the Super Bowl. It’s always something with this team.

    • jetsssuck says:

      No they were not they were accused but never proven. The film intern never supplied the tape.The Boston paper that supplied the story retracted it.

      • Tim Knight says:

        But it’s always them. Believe what you want. I’m done with the conversation. Not going to spend all day talking about a cheating franchise lead by an insecure coach.

  35. CavalierKong says:

    I was reading about Spygate the other day and there are a lot of misconceptions about what the Pets actually did. I can’t remember the article but I think Jetssuck may be right in that they didn’t film walkthrus.

  36. Tim Knight says:

    James Walker ‏@JamesWalkerNFL 6m6 minutes ago
    #Dolphins OC Bill Lazor said the guard competition is going well and he’s not going to lobby for free-agent Evan Mathis.

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      we have to see them in a preseason game. IT seems to me that in TC tanny is getting sacked a bunch. So from the tweets I’ve read the oline has a lot of work to do.

      • Tim Knight says:

        It’s practice. If our DL wasn’t getting pressure and sacks I’d be worried being that it’s the strength of the team.

        Think about how much experience this OL has together. Not much! There really is nothing you can do to speed up that process other than keep working.

  37. Mike E. says:

    The 2007 New England Patriots videotaping controversy, widely dubbed “Spygate”,[1][2] refers to an incident during the National Football League’s (NFL) 2007 season when the New England Patriots were disciplined by the league for videotaping New York Jets’ defensive coaches’ signals during a September 9, 2007 game. Videotaping opposing coaches is not illegal in the NFL but there are designated areas allowed by the league to do such taping. The Patriots were videotaping the Jets’ coaches from their own sideline which is not allowed. The act was deemed by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to be in violation of league rules, causing him to say when penalizing the Patriots that this episode represents a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid long-standing rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition on the playing field. After an investigation, the NFL fined Patriots head coach Bill Belichick $500,000 (the maximum allowed by the league and the largest fine ever imposed on a coach in the league’s 87-year history) for his role in the incident, fined the Patriots $250,000, and docked the team their original first-round selection in the 2008 NFL Draft which would have been the 31st pick of the draft.[3] The fine garnered significant media attention for being the “maximum amount” an individual could be fined.
    **************************************************
    Nearly six months after the incident, the Boston Herald reported, citing an unnamed source, that the Patriots had also videotaped the St. Louis Rams’ walkthrough practice prior to Super Bowl XXXVI in February 2002,[7] an allegation denied by Belichick[6] and later retracted by the Herald. Meanwhile, Matt Walsh, a Patriots video assistant in 2001 who was fired after the team’s 2002 season, told the media the same week that he had information and materials regarding the Patriots’ videotaping practices, but demanded an indemnity agreement before speaking with the NFL.[8]

    • Mike E. says:

      The NFL reached a deal with Walsh on April 23, 2008 and arranged a meeting between Goodell and Walsh.[9] Prior to the meeting, Walsh sent eight videotapes, containing opponents’ coaches’ signals from the 2000 through 2002 seasons, in accordance with the agreement.[10] Goodell and Walsh met on May 13, 2008, at which time Walsh told Goodell he and other Patriots employees were present at the Rams’ walkthrough to set up video equipment for the game but that there was no tape of the walkthrough made; as a result, Goodell told the media no additional penalties would be brought against the Patriots.[11] Less than 24 hours later, the Herald issued an apology for the article about the alleged walkthrough tape.[12]

  38. CavalierKong says:

    http://yourteamcheats.com/what-is-spygate

    This is a detailed spygate explanation.

  39. CavalierKong says:

    We’re like 9 days away from a Dolphins preseason game!

  40. Tim Knight says:

    Kong, we say like a lot here in NJ too.

    So there must have been like 50 people at the party and we were like wow, we didn’t realize there would be like that many.

    Common dialog in these parts. LOL

    • CavalierKong says:

      LOL

      • Mike E. says:

        I say like as well. Um drives me crazy though. They were interviewing Michael Conforto after the Mets game last night, he must have said “um” about 50 times in 2 minutes. That drives me crazy.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Overuse drives me crazy too. Similar to “know what I’m saying”. If you say that every other sentence I don’t care what you’re saying.

    • Try Pod says:

      That is how my daughter talks- in am trying desperately to break her of that habit (as well as saying “literally” after something she is trying to emphasize).

  41. Tim Knight says:

    James Walker ‏@JamesWalkerNFL 32m32 minutes ago
    #Dolphins OC Bill Lazor said the offense will be as fast as QB Ryan Tannehill and C Mike Pouncey can go. The rest of the group must keep up.

  42. The Flying Pig says:

    In spygate the commish found the the cheats were guilty of filming signals during the game

    But during the controversy they were accused of filing practices (by the rams)
    But the league did not punish them for that and there wasn’t stronghold enough to support the allegation

    More importantly
    Why mention that distinction

    If I go to court and say my client didn’t stab some one, they shot some one – my client is going to jail

    This is the patriots typical defenses
    “Everyone else is doing”
    “You have the facts a little wrong”
    There is a typo on the wells report”…lol

    The term red herring comes to mind

  43. Mike E. says:

    NOUMSAYIN’?

  44. The Flying Pig says:

    Mike

    Good explanation of spygate

    Essentially filing practices was an allegation that was not proven or punished

    The patriots were punished for filing signals during a game
    So Jetssuck is correct
    I just don’t see why making that distinction will change the substance of the conversation or what anyone thinks about the patriots

    • Tim Knight says:

      Why did the Pats lose a 1st rd pick and Belichick fined 500K?

      • Mike E. says:

        Because Goodell was flexing his New Commissioner muscles. He had sent out a memo NOT to film from the sidelines, and Belichick didn’t obey. That’s what it seems like to me.

    • Mike E. says:

      I have to admit that I wasn’t up on the reality of what Spygate actually was. Also, the fact that they were allowed to film the signals, but just not from the location of the sidelines kinfd of minimizes the “crime” of it to me as well.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I think I have forgotten
        And over time you start to believe what you hear
        But I don’t think it really matters

      • jetsssuck says:

        what’s really weird about the whole thing it was the 1st game of the season and league wide new rules have to be approved by the nfl owners and this wasn’t. Was the memo sent lost or never receivedor maybe the new commissioners secretary didn’t know how to send correctly a group email or forgot to add NE in group.
        I understand the rule but if both sides are given the same leeway then no harm. Now imagine if you are visiting team and you are only allowed to film from press box which is always located behind the home team. The visiting team will only see the signal callers back—Is this a disadvantage?

      • dbolt48 says:

        Yep, but if I recall correctly they had their videographer wearing team authorized clothing of the opposition to gain access to the opposite sideline.

  45. BoulderPhinfan says:

    sounds like reshad jones is balling. I’m so glad we have him.

    • dbolt48 says:

      Guy played at an All-Pro level last year. Really reorganized himself after becoming a first time father and seeing a drop in his play in 2013.

      • Tim Knight says:

        And a suspension the first 4 games last year.

      • dbolt48 says:

        Yep. 2012 we saw that he had a chance to be a star. Last year he was a star. This year he’ll get recognition as one of the best in the game.

  46. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, and Belichick didn’t obey. Gee I’m shocked.

    Quarterback Tom Brady was suspended four games without pay, and the Patriots lost two draft picks (a 2016 first-rounder and a 2017 fourth-rounder) and will be fined $1 million, the NFL announced Monday.

    Did everyone forget this? This was all about nothing. LOL

  47. The Flying Pig says:

    Just to give you some context

    Roger Goodell became the commish in the summer of 2006 before 06 season
    Spygate hit the fan the following summer

    I’m not a huge fan of Goodell
    He has always been heavy handed

    But it’s not like the patriots have been singled out
    Before spygate ever happened in 2006 the commissioner announced a pretty sweeping personal conduct policy as his first action
    And that has opened the door for unprecedented punishment

    Goodell has probably (just a guess) fined and suspended more players/coaches and organizations than anyone before him

    That is kind of who Goodell is
    It just doesn’t only apply to the patriots

    In the patriots case, though, the controversies seem to involve the rules of the game
    IMO the patriots have earned their reputation

    If you ask me the Martin/incognito contraversy is more out of the norm than anything the patriots have ever been involved with. The way players talk to each other in practice or during the game doesn’t really have a history prior to Goodell of being punished

    • Mike E. says:

      Bottom line is the NFL is making more money now than ever before by a wide margin, so he’s not going anywhere.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I don’t know about that

        I do think enough people are upset with him to at least make some noise

        But you might be right, the owners might think he is making them $ and they might love him bc of it
        And that is what matters

  48. The Flying Pig says:

    For the first few games back after suspension last season Rashad Jones was playing great

    But it seemed to fade

    It would be great to see him out together a probowl season this year
    I think he can
    He needs to stay on the field
    And be consistent

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      I thought he was one of our best defensive players throughout the year. These guys all are pretty talented. What we need is some leadership on the defense. Basically what philbin was talking about. IF the offense goes down and throws an INT the defense doesn’t just give up and let the other team go down and score. It seems to me that’s the big issue with this team specially down the stretch when the games really matter is the lack of leadership.

      • jetsssuck says:

        I remember last year he said he was playing at a pro bowl level.I guess he thought he was the best instead of letting others determine that

    • dbolt48 says:

      I think his level of play was excellent, but losing Delmas, Thomas, etc was too much for him to cover for.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I’m sure the injuries around him were a big factor

        I just though he made impact plays in Oct/nov and I didn’t notice him so much late in the year

  49. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, nobody was making plays on defense late in the year. The entire unit was spent. The pass rush totally disappeared.

  50. herdfan says:

    Good job with the oddyssey Piggy. I don’t read ahead even when I see articles are scheduled, but last night I was getting OD’s article ready for tomorrow and I was laughing at the pics I could see in the media files. Always fun to see what’s in there. lol

  51. Mike E. says:

    Reshad isn’t part of the problem on defense. It was a lot of other things, mostly as far as he was concerned, all the injuries to our CB’s and other safeties.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Lack of pass rush hung them out to dry. We were top 5 in sacks after 10 games with ‘like’ 30 and had ‘like’ 9 the last 6 games.

  52. jetsssuck says:

    here’s something you can talk about—–why is the team practicing in the early morning instead of high noon? Is this because of the CBA or its a coaches decision? I remember during Parcells era they would practice during the hottest portion of the day..

    • Mike E. says:

      It’s all about protecting the players now. I’d say that’s the deal right there.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t think the new CBA permits practice at the same time every say

      I do think they can get some high noon practices in

      Im just speculating
      But I recall some restorations on practices in the new CBA
      Not sure of time of practice is one of them

  53. bat says:

    One question. If the taping of signals was no big deal and no practices or walkthroughs were taped, why was Goodell so quick to destroy all the evidence without exposing it to public scrutiny? There was much more to the Cheatriots chicanery than the NFL was willing to admit. ..IMO

    • The Flying Pig says:

      It’s not exactly not a big deal

      Belichcick was aware of the rule and said his interpretation of the rule was not that it prohibited taping of signals
      But that it prohibited taping of signals for use in the same game
      But otherwise a team was allowed to tape signals for future use

      Let that sink it and consider how silly it is

      This things gets watered down in time
      In part bc of back room deals and destruction of evidence
      So tell me again why destroying a phone is not a big deal

      We will never know what was in those tapes
      We will never know what was on Brady’s phone

    • jetsssuck says:

      after years of thinking about that very question I believe Goodall knew he was wrong and didn’t want the public or league to know what a mistake he made. I used to think maybe the league was maybe compromised by organized crime with signals being stolen electronically and the NFL didn’t want to deal with its product destroyed.It would be really hard to steal the signals electronically and then relay them to the field in 40 seconds

  54. The Flying Pig says:

    Herd

    Did you notice “Lester” has a butterfly tattoo
    I though it was a nice touch

  55. bat says:

    “Polian said videotape of sideline signals could be conceivably matched to game footage to decipher codes. Such a process might provide the type of advantage former Patriots linebacker Ted Johnson described during an interview with USA TODAY shortly after he retired in 2005.

    “Every now and then I’d get a sheet, one hour before the game, with a list of audibles for our opponent,” Johnson said in November 2005. “I don’t know how, but they just showed up.”

    • jetsssuck says:

      I guess the game isn’t won between the lines as much as we think. Maybe we should hire a statistical genius like “billy ball” and we can have him decipher signals. I believe the defense is having defense captains have receiving devices in helmet where they can get signal in their helmets from sideline.

  56. BoulderPhinfan says:

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 3m3 minutes ago
    Dolphins O-line coach John Benton said he hopes to see “a steady progression, a more consistent player” from Ja’Wuan James.

  57. bat says:

    “The allegation most assiduously avoided by the Patriots and the NFL was the one regarding the Patriots use of an alternative radio frequency (compared to the one specified by the NFL) to communicate between the coaches and the quarterback. As “following the money” opened up the Watergate investigation, “following the radio frequency” might be the same in Spygate.

    The NFL pre-assigns a private frequency to each team so that the other team cannot hear the communications, but more importantly because they want to monitor such team communications for any other evidence of cheating or unauthorized use of the radio system (eg, only one player, the QB, is permitted to have a receiver in their helmet).

    The fact (unsubstantiated, but heavily rumored and traced to individuals close to the Patriot organization) that the Patriots were communicating on another frequency (unavailable to the NFL) was key to the concealment of their scheme for stealing the other teams defensive signals AND communicating them to their QB.

    The conspiracy of silence around this allegation, after it was reported several times (including Chris Mortensen of ESPN) even PRIOR TO Spygate, seems to confirm that the NFL was covering up what was really happening. They were in a perfect position to substantiate and follow up on this violation of NFL rules in many games, yet it seems as if the Patriots use of their own frequency was dismissed as a technical snafu or team preference. Also note that the NFL’s radio frequency was disabled 20 seconds prior to the the start of each play to prevent last second communications.

    This radio communication angle really needs to be explored much more deeply and exposed. It makes the videotaping violations all the more egregious, since the electronics gave the coaches much greater leverage to benefit from their cheating.”

    • jetsssuck says:

      Also note that the NFL’s radio frequency was disabled 20 seconds prior to the the start of each play to prevent last second communications.
      ————————————————————————–
      It would be very hard to call a play and set everyone up and get the play off in 20 seconds or even less if the defense is delayed any amount of time. Maybe that’s why the hurry up offense was used so much?

  58. Tim Knight says:

    Bat, it’s always something with the Pats and it’s never real, they’re always unfairly criticized because of their success. Yeah that’s what it is! LOL

    • jetsssuck says:

      It’s hard to argue with the success they have had since belicheck started there. What is it 14 out 15 division titles.I can’t remember a coach having this much success. The guy fooled the entire NFL,the Ravens,best referee’s of NFL, and replay team in NY about a formation that was legal.

  59. BoulderPhinfan says:

    Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley
    The dilemma with Mathis: He’s a LG. Hasn’t played RG since 2008. But right guard, to my eyes, has been a bigger issue than left in camp.

  60. wyoming85 says:

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 4m4 minutes ago
    Receiver LaRon Byrd suffers a minor injury during Tuesday’s Dolphins practice http://fw.to/CTLG0tM

  61. bat says:

    Tim .. Yeah, and delusional Cheatriot fans cry that the NFL is out to get them …If anything, the league has covered up for and enabled them.

  62. wyoming85 says:

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 2m2 minutes ago
    “They have all improved to a point,” John Benton said of the Dolphins guards. “But I don’t think I’m impressed yet.”

  63. bat says:

    Jetssuck … That’s just the point. The Cheats were operating on their own radio frequency which was inaccessible to the NFL and not shut down.

    • jetsssuck says:

      no where in the reports does it mention Electronic frequencies irregular to the rules. I don’t say it isn’t possible but highly unlikely. For the records all frequencies are identifiable within limited spaces with the right equipment. Did they tap into the teams communication system I don’t now but like I said anything is possible now a days

  64. wyoming85 says:

    560 WQAM ‏@560WQAM 49m49 minutes ago
    Suh: It’s My Job to Dominate Turner, Thomas in Practice — “we want to push each other”

  65. wyoming85 says:

    Jones is Balling so far

    Greg Likens ‏@GregLikens 42s42 seconds ago
    A correction to one of my earlier tweets after reviewing the film… RJones had the big hit on Cameron which led to the Misi INT, not Aikens

  66. dbolt48 says:

    The amazing thing with the local beat-off reporters and how bad everyone playing RG is getting destroyed by Suh….did they forget what Suh did to Pouncey in that Detroit game last year. Pouncey looked like a lingerie league player.

  67. bat says:

    Jetssuck

    “The fact (unsubstantiated, but heavily rumored and traced to individuals close to the Patriot organization) that the Patriots were communicating on another frequency (unavailable to the NFL) was key to the concealment of their scheme for stealing the other teams defensive signals AND communicating them to their QB.”

  68. Al in MIA says:

    According to Jetssuck, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s not a duck. :P. I’m just kidding buddy. The reality is the NFL can do whatever it wants within the confines of the powers the owners give. Brady and the Pats were uncooperative during the investigation so it gave the impression that they had something to hide. Ted Wells was deemed an independent investigator and he gave language that it was was ‘probable’ that there was shenanigans going on and that Brady probably knew about it. If he was biased, he would have just thrown Belichick under the bus while he was at it. The reality is, innocent till proven guilty is only a criminal court logic. That logic doesn’t fly in civil courts where reasonable doubt doesn’t apply. Now going back to the NFL, it is a private enterprise who can establish whatever rules they want and enforce it however they feel like it as agreed to by the players association which let Goodell have more discretionary power in the last CBA. As for Kraft and any notion that he might have Goodell removed; good luck. The most influentual owner might be Jerry Jones and he has consistently said that he loves Roger. Stephen Ross, 2nd wealthiest owner behind Paul Allen (Seahawks), was asked about Goodell the other day and he threw his support for him. Kraft won’t be able to find enough owners to support his cause.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I tend to think the other owners are very upset about the way Kraft has handled this

      Your reasonable doubt statement is pretty much what I said
      So I agree
      when you are not throwing some one in jail
      You can use your good ole common sense to draw your conclusion
      I don;t think its wise to presume people as innocent
      I’m personally much too jaded for that…lol

      Most people are going to think that if a organization doesn’t comply with an investigation and demonostrate transpearancy, that they are hiding something

      Honestly I don;t think PSIs are a huge deal
      I think the Patriots obstructing the investigation, issuing a response , theatening to go to federal court (which undercuts the commisioners powers) and destroying a phone is
      the punishment probably reflects a response to that more than anything else

      • Al in MIA says:

        Agreed. I’ve always seen the current disciplinary measure as a response to non-cooperation in this investigation with consideration to past behavior.

    • jetsssuck says:

      Kraft said he accepted the fine and wanted to get this thing over.Then when goodall changed evrything about the case into the destoying of the phone as enough evidence things got real personal. Do you think you would trust the NFL offices if you had a extramartial affair sms messages on your phone.Do you believe that they could keep everything private when they already leaked info to the press. I believe this is a personal spat between goodall and brady or goodall and kraft. Goodall was a intern with jets maybe brady was doing goodalls GF when he was a intern who knows. But this whole thing seems childless

  69. wyoming85 says:

    Miami Dolphins ‏@MiamiDolphins 54s54 seconds ago
    “We’re not here to win just a few games. We’re here to win a championship.”

    #RT17: http://oak.ctx.ly/r/3gvtu

    • Tim Knight says:

      That’s been the constant message coming from this team since the offseason. Whether they do it or not is one thing, but that’s the goal, not just having a winning record.

      I think they feel they’re close and can play with anyone, but lacked some parts and consistency and now they feel they’re even closer.

      • BoulderPhinfan says:

        shouldn’t that be the goal every year? did philbin just figure out what his job description is after 4 years?

  70. Al in MIA says:

    Tim,
    Going back to your point on the ‘Spygate’ settlement as it applies to ‘deflategate’, why would the Patriots take a preemptive disciplinary move as a means to receive less punishment from the NFL and also expect the NFL to negotiate disciplinary matters (as it relates to Kraft/Patriots claim that they made an offer; NFL didn’t counter offer)?
    If you are 100% clean, you don’t even bother taking a pre-emptive move.

    • Tim Knight says:

      That’s what I’m saying, it reeks of bullshit and anyone who doesn’t see it has an agenda.

      The Pats have lost two 1st round draft picks, a 4th and have been fined $1.5M for doing nothing. LMAO!!!!

  71. bookman11 says:

    ” if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s not a duck.” But if it weighs the same as a duck it IS a witch.

  72. finfanrob says:

    Ken says:
    August 4, 2015 at 10:23 am

    Jetssuck I don’t get you man.

    lmao, you dont huh………..well you got to admit, he has gotten most of the boards attention today.

    • jetsssuck says:

      its really amazing the number of people who don’t know what spygate was about.Is it people forgot or people only want to believe what lessens opponents.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I think it’s interesting that you’re such Patriots apologist. Pretty much about everything. You know this is a Dolphins blog, right?

      • jetsssuck says:

        Did I offend u. You seem to be taking it personally please I didn’t mean to offend u. I’m sure you don’t like being corrected maybe I could have written it differently but facts are facts.

  73. jetsssuck says:

    here’s one for u guys? Do you think any drones will make into the stadiums this year?

    • Al in MIA says:

      If we’ve had people glide over a game before then I’m sure a drone will be attempted or has been already.

  74. Tim Knight says:

    Boulder, some teams aren’t ready to compete for a championship though yes that’s the ultimate goal. The Mets the last 4 years knew they were going to lose until they had certain things in place. You just looking for a reason to bash Philbin? He’s not the only guy in the organization.

  75. Al in MIA says:

    Boulder,
    Speaking of Philbin, made a math analogy this morning. He said last year was Algebra 1 & 2 under Lazor’s scheme and that this year they were getting into Trigonometry. I was like ‘trigonometry? If you aren’t heading into Calculus 2 at this stage you might be finding your way out of town lol.

    • Tim Knight says:

      It’s only the beginning of the 2nd season. I only expect Tannehill and Moore and a few others to really have this offense down. A lot of new OL personnel and skill players. It’s totally knew to them. Hopefully by the 3rd PS game they’re where you want them to be. 🙂

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      LOL

  76. wyoming85 says:

    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 12s12 seconds ago
    Texans’ RB Arian Foster came up limping on pass play last night, never returned to practice and @taniaganguli reports Foster hurt his groin.

  77. BoulderPhinfan says:

    Follow

    Ndamukong SuhVerified account
    ‏@NdamukongSuh
    Happy Birthday @POTUS! I’ll be in DC for our game on September 13th. Can we do pre game meal at your house?

  78. Tim Knight says:

    Jetssuck, not taking anything anyone says about the Pats’ shenanigans personal. But why does one team have multiple accusations about them for almost a decade? They’ve lost draft picks, been fined and suspended for it. Yeah nothing to see here. LOL

    • jetsssuck says:

      you know calvin kong provided a very good article about spygate and to the side it had a website of each team’s cheating accusations. Take a look you will be surprised.

  79. Tim Knight says:

    Okay gotta get some lunch. BBL

  80. finfanrob says:

    Tim Knight says:
    August 4, 2015 at 1:24 pm

    I think it’s interesting that you’re such Patriots apologist.

    kind of reminds you of someone else. doesnt he?

  81. Rockphin says:

    jetsssuck says:
    August 4, 2015 at 12:18 pm

    I remember last year he said he was playing at a pro bowl level.I guess he thought he was the best instead of letting others determine that
    **

    I may be mistaken, but I BELIEVE that he was ineligible for the pro-bowl because of his suspension for PED’s.

  82. herdfan says:

    jetsssuck says:

    August 4, 2015 at 1:12 pm (Edit)

    Kraft said he accepted the fine and wanted to get this thing over.Then when goodall changed evrything about the case into the destoying of the phone as enough evidence things got real personal. Do you think you would trust the NFL offices if you had a extramartial affair sms messages on your phone.Do you believe that they could keep everything private when they already leaked info to the press. I believe this is a personal spat between goodall and brady or goodall and kraft. Goodall was a intern with jets maybe brady was doing goodalls GF when he was a intern who knows. But this whole thing seems childless

    Are you accusing Brady of having an extramarital affar???? Wait til Giselle finds out!!!!! lol

    • jetsssuck says:

      just making a example of why people would want to destroy a mobile phone with all the sophisticated hacking techniques available now a days.

  83. The Flying Pig says:

    Kraft has a funny way of accepting the fine and league punishment

    • jetsssuck says:

      what’s a million for this guy I believe he’s a billionaire.The guy is probably more concerned with marketing revenues lost because of the bad press..

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I mean that he did not accept the leagues findings as you stated above
        he did everything to protest them

        releasing multiple statements questioning the initial wells report, then the decision after the appeal

        he funded his own response to the wells report
        then backtracked and said he supported the league
        but left the response continue to run the the Patriots website

        He also clearly endorsed the refusal to provide a witness to wells, in other words not cooperating, by suggesting that it was not okay to provide the witness again after being provided several times int he past

        Kraft has been pretty anti-NFL and anti-Goodell during this entire process
        You might be able to find a diplomatic statment by him
        but his actions say otherwise

        I’m sure he has upset his business partners (the other owners of the NFL)

  84. Brian in NY says:

    Kraft accepted the league’s punishment against the team hoping if he did that, they would lessen or take away the punishment against Brady. A $1 million fine for him is like taking $5 from my wallet. The draft pick isn’t a huge deal because they have a good team in place and will likely be picking in low in the 1st round anyway.

    • jetsssuck says:

      good explanation

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Do you think that is Kraft accepting the punishment?
        He publicly said, as Tim says below, he accepted the fine in hopes it would lead to a reduced fine for Brady

        then after the appeal – he has gone back to criticizing the NFl

        He is not accepting this by any stretch of the imagination

        he actually funded the response (to the wells report) that was published and it is being run on the patriots website

    • Tim Knight says:

      He said that publicly that he did it to exonerate Tom. What he didn’t realize was Tom handled all of this poorly.

  85. BoulderPhinfan says:

    from jackson

    “### Mike Tannenbaum, the Dolphins’ vice president/football operations, made clear during a WQAM-560 interview that the running backs must be competent in pass protection, regardless of their running skills.

    On fifth-round pick Jay Ajayi, Tannenbaum said: “There are things we like about him, but if he can’t pass protect, he will never be active. I don’t care how talented he is between the tackles. If Jay Ajayi can’t pass protect, he won’t be active.””

    • Al in MIA says:

      Straight shooter! unlike Ireland lol.

    • Tim Knight says:

      That’s how all teams feel. Especially when you’re a heavy pass team.

    • Brian in NY says:

      I read that earlier- pretty harsh words. I don’t understand why the real GM is making those statements. Shouldn’t that be the coaches decision, and shouldn’t he be the one commenting on that?

      • Tim Knight says:

        He was probably asked that. I’ve heard many coaches and GMs say that over the years.

      • Brian in NY says:

        I get that, but shouldn’t a proper response be “that’s up to the coaches to decide”?

      • BoulderPhinfan says:

        I’m sure that’s probably how philbin feels. You can’t pass protect you can’t play because the opponent know its a run play when you’re in.

  86. finfanrob says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    August 4, 2015 at 1:54 pm

    freaking bastard cat

    come on now that is harsh. you know everyone loves a little piggy in their mouth

  87. Al in MIA says:

    jetsssuck says:
    August 4, 2015 at 1:58 pm

    just making a example of why people would want to destroy a mobile phone with all the sophisticated hacking techniques available now a days.
    ——–

    I think the issue the NFL had was the timing of the phone destruction.

    “I replaced my broken Samsung phone with a new iPhone 6 AFTER my attorneys made it clear to the NFL that my actual phone device would not be subjected to investigation under ANY circumstances. As a member of a union, I was under no obligation to set a new precedent going forward, nor was I made aware at any time during Mr. Wells investigation, that failing to subject my cell phone to investigation would result in ANY discipline,” Brady wrote on Facebook.

    As for the NFL’s disciplinary matters (from constitutionalcenter.org’s blog)

    “If this sounds like a Fourth Amendment issue, the concept is related. The amendment famously states that people have the right “to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures” and such information can only be inspected via a warrant.

    But as Goodell would be the first person to acknowledge, the Brady investigation as a civil workplace matter doesn’t give the NFL any direct legal power to compel Brady to surrender evidence, such as cellphone records.

    In Goodell’s 20-page statement on the Brady matter, Goodell said that “neither the NFL or any NFL member club has subpoena power or other means to compel production of relevant materials or testimony.”

    However, Goodell also said that under the collective bargaining agreement between the NFL and the player’s union, the NFL can consider the extent of cooperation of league or club employees during a workplace investigation in evaluating sanctions.

    Goodell cited Article 46 of the collective bargaining agreement as granting the commissioner the power to discipline players for conduct “detrimental to the integrity of, or public confidence in the game of professional football.”

    The commissioner’s conclusion was that the case evidence “fully” supported that Brady played part in a plan to alter the game balls and that Brady obstructed the investigation by having one of his cellphones destroyed.

  88. Brian in NY says:

    Tim Knight says:
    August 4, 2015 at 2:12 pm
    He was probably asked that. I’ve heard many coaches and GMs say that over the years.
    *
    “I don’t care how talented he is between the tackles. If Jay Ajayi can’t pass protect, he won’t be active.”
    *
    Tim,
    How many teams has he played for before us?

    • Tim Knight says:

      Not sure what you’re asking?

      The same thing was discussed about David Wilson of the Giants before he had to retire. It wasn’t just fumbles, his pass pro was lacking and he was in and out of the lineup because of it.

      Pass pro for a RB is an important quality for a RB all across the league. That’s why Daniel Thomas got the nod over other backs that fans and media wanted to see get a chance instead. Not if you can’t pass protect.

  89. getterdone says:

    BoulderPhinfan says:
    August 4, 2015 at 1:28 pm
    Follow

    Ndamukong SuhVerified account
    ‏@NdamukongSuh
    Happy Birthday @POTUS! I’ll be in DC for our game on September 13th. Can we do pre game meal at your house?
    Reply

    Oh Noooo, he can’t be a damn fan of Obummer….say it isn’t Suh!
    SMH 😦

  90. Rockphin says:

    “Billy and Dallas, they’re young guys,” Suh said. “They understand what they need to get done. They’re athletic, they can move. They challenge me and I hope I challenge them every single day in practice.

    “At the end of the day we want to push ourselves on both sides of the ball,” Suh said. “I want to dominate Dallas, I want to dominate Billy. At the end of the day that’s my job, that’s what I was brought here for, and that’s my goal.

    “Hopefully I can get them better and they can make me better by pushing them as well, just like I expect Pouncey to do the same.”

    Suh has been pounding on the guards for five training camp practices. We’ll see if it makes them better. And we’ll see whether, at any point in training camp, Suh says the Dolphins have two NFL starting-caliber guards.

  91. Al in MIA says:

    Brian in NY says:
    August 4, 2015 at 2:09 pm

    I read that earlier- pretty harsh words. I don’t understand why the real GM is making those statements. Shouldn’t that be the coaches decision, and shouldn’t he be the one commenting on that?
    ——-
    Jerry Jones never holds back either lol.

  92. The Flying Pig says:

    My understanding is that Jay Ajayi was a pretty good at pass protection at Boise state

    Is he not doing so well in camp now

    • Brian in NY says:

      That’s what I remembered hearing, that he was good at catching passes and protecting the passer, which is why some here prematurely predicted his unseating Miller for the starting RB position (not going to happen).

    • Tim Knight says:

      It sounded like a general statement from Mr. T.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Maybe he just wants Ajayi to continue to work hard on his technique and emphasize the importance of pass protection

        as I remember Lamar Miller was not on the filed a lot of the time in favor of DT based on this

  93. Brian in NY says:

    Tim,
    Did Cespedes look like he had some power last night or what?

    • Tim Knight says:

      Big time. That’s something we didn’t have from a righty. They kept saying how big that ballpark is, deep gaps and high walls. He could have had two 3 run homers in many other parks.

    • Al in MIA says:

      Remember 2007! 🙂

    • jetsssuck says:

      how is the general public doing in NY today with the Mets going into 1st place last night. Is the scuttle but alive with Mets talk? How about the subway? Bars are packed with Mets fans cheering after every pitch or hit. What a feeling holding your breath with every out or pitch. I loved the feeling during the 2 WS championship seasons we experienced.Its a experience that lives with you your whole life.

  94. Tim Knight says:

    GD, no mixing our players with politics. I’m pretty sure there are plenty of players on our team who support Obama. LOL

  95. Al in MIA says:

    5mTania Ganguli
    Source: Texans’ Foster may need groin surgery

  96. getterdone says:

    BoulderPhinfan says:
    August 4, 2015 at 2:27 pm
    that’s why I like him even more. He’s smart. 🙂
    Reply

    Boulder, you’re kidding right???
    Not to get into politics (btw I know both parties are heavily corrupt), But how can you or anybody be a fan of what Obama has done/not done in his 6+ years? It’s mind boggling to me no matter what part affiliation you claim as an American citizen.

    • getterdone says:

      ^party affiliation^

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      its mind boggling to me that someone would think Obama hasn’t done a great job in his 6 years. The economy is booming and people are a lot happier right now than when bush was in his 6th year. Remember that? 2 wars and the worst recession in history?

      I don’t want to get into politics either but I would be curious, someday, to find out why you think he’s done such a bad job.

    • Al in MIA says:

      lol, POTUS is like the QB in football. The root cause of the team’s success or failure.

  97. getterdone says:

    Offensive coordinator Bill Lazor on the offense’s evolution: “There’s a constant adaptation. We studied some of the teams in the league that are the best statistically at what they do and then you really try, you take the emotion of a weekly game plan out of it, you look at it and you really evaluate what do our players do best. And then I think being out here with Greg Jennings and Kenny Stills and Jordan Cameron, over time being with those guys, we’ll have to answer those same questions – what do they do best.”

  98. Al in MIA says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    August 4, 2015 at 2:23 pm

    My understanding is that Jay Ajayi was a pretty good at pass protection at Boise state

    Is he not doing so well in camp now
    ——
    That’s what happens when you go from blocking Mountain West defenders to NFL players I guess.

  99. stangerx says:

    A big welcome to the family to Lestah Phonesmashah…….why do I have the feeling we will see him before our games against the Pats?

    Love the way your mind works Pig.

  100. Al in MIA says:

    jetsssuck says:
    August 4, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    if I’m correct 1st amendment might come into affect also

    The first amendment speaks of restrictions on government action not private enterprise 🙂

    • stangerx says:

      That is true AL. First amend is only about the gov telling you what to say or not. Doesn’t stop you, me, or Omar from saying shut the F up.

  101. Al in MIA says:

    Brian,
    I’m just glad Andre Johnson won’t be there anymore #CantCauseAnymorePain
    LOL

  102. getterdone says:

    USA Today thinks the division will be good enough to land three of the four franchises in the postseason, with the Buffalo Bills and Miami Dolphins claiming the two Wildcard berths behind the Patriots’ AFC East division title.

    The Patriots claim the top spot with an 11-5 record, though author Nate Davis does admit the rest of the division should not be far behind. The Bills take the second spot with a 10-6 record, thanks to additions like coach Rex Ryan, running back LeSean McCoy, and receiver Percy Harvin.

    The Dolphins come in third in the division, but claim the final playoff spot, with a 10-6 record as well. David explains the Dolphins projection:

    They won’t see a playoff team from last year until Week 8, and only two before December. Plenty of time for the Ryan Tannehill-led offense to crest and the Ndamukong Suh-led D to crystallize.
    The San Diego Chargers and Cincinnati Bengals just miss the Playoffs with 9-7 records.

    http://www.thephinsider.com/2015/8/4/9095711/dolphins-playoffs-in-2015-predicted-by-usa-today-patriots-bills-too

    • Tim Knight says:

      I predict that USA Today is going to a company party, get drunk, have an orgy and have a lot of explaining to do on many fronts. See how easy that is to do? LOL

  103. Al in MIA says:

    jetsssuck says:
    August 4, 2015 at 2:35 pm

    how is the general public doing in NY today with the Mets going into 1st place last night. Is the scuttle but alive with Mets talk? How about the subway? Bars are packed with Mets fans cheering after every pitch or hit. …..
    ——–
    I think you forgot about the Yankees (the more popular NYC team) but anyway a subway WS series talk is probably alive and well everywhere.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m just happy that they’re relevant right now. I’m not getting ahead of myself. There’s a lot of time for this to go into the shitter. LOL

  104. Brian in NY says:

    Lol @ Al! Johnson has killed us over the years!

  105. getterdone says:

    Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
    RT @c__305 how Jordan Phillips looking > He disappears more and more each and every day. He needs to be fresh to be good. He’s a NT
    ________________________
    I call BS on Omar. He’s the only one saying this…lol smh

    • Tim Knight says:

      Scout/Coach Omar to the rescue. LOL

    • Brian in NY says:

      He’s such an asshole. I really wish you guys would stop posting his tweets, just becasue he is an imbecile.

      • getterdone says:

        I try not to post his stuff much anymore, usually just pass it right over….but then some real stupid ones jump out at me & I can’t help myself sometimes…lol

        I’ll try to refrain even further Brian.

      • Brian in NY says:

        It’s a free country GDP- post as often as you wish! He just annoys me. I mostly try to skip but some I can’t help reading.

  106. Brian in NY says:

    My new jersey was shipped from Miami on Thursday. I checked the status today and it has made it all the way to Jacksonville. Should be here by week one!

  107. Rockphin says:

    SPLINTERED BOARD!!!!!!

  108. getterdone says:

    Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
    Omar Kelly and Chris Perkins break down Day 5 of the Miami Dolphins’ training camp session
    ______________
    for Brian….j/k BB 🙂

  109. Al in MIA says:

    GDP,

    This is the year the Fins finally match the defense and offenses which should produce 10-11 wins.
    The past two years the Fins went 8-8 but did so for different reasons.

    In 2013, the offense ranked 26 in points scored while the defense ranked 8th in points allowed.
    In 2014, the offense ranked 11th in points scored while the defense ranked 20th in pts allowed.

    I’ll admit the only significant change on offense YR/YR is the WR group.

    However, the incoming WR have plenty of NFL experience and the overall talent level of the group (regardless of aggregate experience) is up. Health concerns may be an issue but overall every team worries about that stuff as things happen unexpectedly even to healthy guys who have never been injured.

    That said, the offense at worst should be above average in the NFL (ahead of #15 ranking in points scored).

    Defensively, they made structural changes and brought in much needed help up front and also bring in quality secondary players which should reduce the chances of what happened last year later in the season.

    All said, we should see a big change in the point differential equation which was -18 in 2013 and only 15 last season.

  110. Rockphin says:

    Brian, “Your new jersey”? Are you like Stephen the mad Irishman from Braveheart? Aye, it’s my New Jersey! Ahrg

    • Brian in NY says:

      LMFAO! I love that character! I got a new Jarvis Landry jersey for me, and a Devante Parker jersey for my son.

  111. getterdone says:

    Quotes from Suh on Phillips, posted by MH:

    Ndamukong Suh, asked about having second-round pick Jordan Phillips come train with him this offseason: “I guess he told you he came out and worked out with me, which was true. At the end of the day, I just wanted to build a relationship with him. I mean you’re only as strong as your weakest link, not saying he’s out weakest link, but he’s our youngest guy, most inexperienced.

    “So we want to push him along and get him into the pace of where all of the other vets are and all of the other guys because he’s going to be expected to play. I expect for him at some point in time throughout the year, whether it’s the first game or the last game of the year or into the playoffs hopefully – that’s he contributing in his own particular way. The quicker I can push his process along like Kyle Vanden Bosch did for me, Corey Williams did for me, all of those guys in Detroit and all of those other veterans like Larry Fitzgerald, Amobi Okoye, just talking to me, texting to me, telling me what I should expect and what should I focus on. That’s where I feel that it’s my duty to do that for a younger guy.

    “He’s a good kid. Obviously, he’s quiet, very similar to me. I think at the end of the day he wants to become a very great player. I think in my opinion he just has to learn how to do that, but he’s got all of the talent to do it.”

  112. getterdone says:

    Al, good stuff. I’d like to see both our Offense & Defense end up Top 10-12 overall, and I think that is VERY realistic with the talent on this team.

    Like I’ve said before, this is go time for Philbin & his staff…they got their type of guys now.
    #No Mo Excuses!

  113. Tim Knight says:

    Brian hates it but he can’t stay away from the blue ice. LOL

  114. Rockphin says:

    The good lord thinks he can get me out of this……but you’re fucked…

  115. Al in MIA says:

    GDP,
    LOL about Omar. You see where he posted yesterday on Twitter “don’t forget who told you about Greg Jennings first”. I responded with “The Green Bay Packers?”

    • getterdone says:

      LOL, right…Greg Jennings play has told us first about how good he can be. Then Philbin told Dohmar 😉

    • dbolt48 says:

      The same guy who said Jennings wouldn’t land in Miami? The same guy who, during Greg’s April fools prank, made it out like he had big inside info that it was about to happen that night???? That guy told us what about Jennings 1st😂😂😂

  116. getterdone says:

    Browns coach Mike Pettine hints the team will have “special plays” for Terrelle Pryor this season.
    Talking about a trick play Pryor was a part of in Tuesday’s practice, Pettine said “special plays” will be a weekly occurrence for the Browns this season. “I’m just a firm believer in always having that option,” Pettine said. “If you get into a game where there’s a lull on both sides offensively, you need something to break it open. Having a guy like Terrelle certainly gives us that ability.” We’re not even a week into camp, but it’s become increasingly clear that Pryor is not only to going to make the 53-man roster, but have a real role on offense.
    _____________________________________
    I really like Pettine’s thoughts on using a trick play ^ or something big to break up a lull in a game.

  117. BoulderPhinfan says:

    I need to pick up some miller high life on the way home. LOL

    http://theweek.com/speedreads/570010/110yearold-womans-secret-long-life-miller-high-life

    • getterdone says:

      That was our beer of choice as kids turning 18, but after several years of pounding them, we all began to dub it the headache beer. We then switched to Budweiser at the time and the headaches went away.

    • getterdone says:

      BTW, beer has formaldehyde in it, so now wonder that High Life swilling 110yo octogenarian is still preserved…lol 😀

  118. Tim Knight says:

    Brian, if Devante Parker’s foot ends up being donated to science before the season starts we’ll be looking at you. LOL

  119. Mike E. says:

    Take 2 Buds and call me in the morning . . . lol

  120. Tim Knight says:

    FFR’s reaction to Omar tweets and comments.

  121. getterdone says:

    Quotes from our WR coach O’Keefe:

    So is DeVante Parker good enough and knowledgeable enough about Miami’s offense to play and contribute in the opener if he doesn’t play in preseason?

    “This is the NFL; there is going to be a learning curve no matter what,” receivers coach Ken O’Keefe told me today. “He’ll have to shake some rust off. But he’s here to play.

    “We are doing everything we can to make sure he’s ready to go when we’re given the word it’s time. He’s doing a great job for a young guy staying engaged from a mental standpoint. Physically he’s doing what’s being asked of him according to the rules. I’m not concerned about it. I think he’ll be in good shape.”

    Kenny Stills, meanwhile, has missed two consecutive practices with a calf injury. But O’Keefe likes what he has seen: “Kenny runs out of his routes well. He has the speed you look for down the field.”

    The Dolphins could keep six receivers to start the season – one more that usual — if Parker needs more time. Michael Preston, Matt Hazel and LaRon Byrd have all had some good moments in camp and would be top candidates if Miami keeps a sixth. Byrd left Tuesday’s practice with what appeared to be a leg or hip issue.

    “All those guys are climbing a little bit,” O’Keefe said. “Hazel has improved every day. Preston has made a lot of plays from OTA, minicamp right to now. We need all of them to keep pushing.”

  122. wyoming85 says:

    Miami Dolphins ‏@MiamiDolphins 4m4 minutes ago
    “You’ve got to continue to move forward and be great.”

    @JTripp37: http://oak.ctx.ly/r/3gxra

  123. wyoming85 says:

    Sorry to keep interrupting your Patriots & Mets arguments with Dolphin news?

    DEAL 😉

  124. Rockphin says:

    why is it that when I first refresh the page all the fonts are crisp and clean looking and then after a moment they change to this “type writer” looking font. (like the ink on the ribbon of the type writer has been re-wound and re-used) It is much easier to read the first few seconds after refreshing the page. then it get’s broken looking again….

  125. Tim Knight says:

    GD, that emoticon reminds me of Slater.

  126. Rockphin says:

    “You’ve got to continue to move forward and be great.”

    Well I have to admit that sounds better than “Fail forward fast” or what ever Cam’s line was. (it was awful what ever it was)

  127. getterdone says:

    NFL.com’s Ian Rapoport reports Arian Foster (groin surgery) will “almost certainly” begin the year on injured reserve/designated to return.
    Rapsheet labels Foster’s injury “major,” while the Houston Chronicle has deemed it “severe.” I.R./return dictates that players miss at least the first eight weeks of the season. With Houston on bye for Week 9, Foster wouldn’t be eligible to make his debut until Week 10.
    _______________________________
    Uhh, can we get anything for Gillislee? 😉

  128. Rockphin says:

    Brian, I believe you sat behind me at the Fest game last year?

    was my voice at all whiny? STAND THE FUCK UP!

    You should hear “SPLINTERED BOARD” in that voice….

  129. Rockphin says:

    Gay ass Met’s fans up the board taking swings at me? really? MET’s FANS? SHM gay asses.

  130. Rockphin says:

    NYYULSS (New York Yankees ugly little step sister)

  131. Rockphin says:

    And when you read “SPLINTERED BOARD” you should be hearing “FUCK THE SECOND CLASS DIVISION II MET’S IN THE ASS WITH A SPLINTERED BOARD”

  132. Tim Knight says:

    Rock, I don’t think anyone here is attacking you personally. Just typical ball busting.

  133. Al in MIA says:

    Piggy,
    LOL @ KermittheFrog & @RealMissPiggy tweets today

  134. Al in MIA says:

    Rock,
    I’m getting the same front switch which is just symptomatic of a slow loading server.

    • Rockphin says:

      Hmmmmm, it is very strange. It is happening on my Ipad too. I can’t really tell on my phone because the font is so small to begin with.

  135. Rockphin says:

    My apologies to you Met’s fans…..

  136. finfanrob says:

    Brian in NY says:
    August 4, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    He’s such an asshole. I really wish you guys would stop posting his tweets, just becasue he is an imbecile.

    lol, oh you done did it now. it’s cool now you can suffer the wrath of timmie. but its ok once you get over him and his buddies in tights he tim isnt so bad.

  137. Rockphin says:

    Ok, enough. LOL

    Go ahead and talk freely about your Mets. (Metropolitans?) I will stop “whining” about it.

  138. finfanrob says:

    Rockphin says:
    August 4, 2015 at 4:32 pm

    My apologies to you Met’s fans…..

    rock, if you want to apologize to mets fan you need to take a number. they are now serving number 17,458,561

  139. finfanrob says:

    Rockphin says:
    August 4, 2015 at 4:34 pm

    Ok, enough. LOL

    Go ahead and talk freely about your Mets. (Metropolitans?) I will stop “whining” about it.

    you really should. i mean they only have another 2 or 3 weeks till the mets face plant and lost 18 our of 20 games or something like that

  140. Mike E. says:

    Just realize the Mets won a World Series more recently than the Dolphins have won a Superbowl.

  141. Mike E. says:

    Maybe this will be the year that both teams win. That would be crazy!

  142. finfanrob says:

    Mike E. says:
    August 4, 2015 at 5:21 pm

    Yeah, the Buccaneers too, not two, but one

    wow, i took one or two cheap shots at your mets but i didnt stoop that low. i always liked you but that is just way way cold.

  143. Mike E. says:

    That was pretty low Rob, sorry bud

  144. steveccnv says:

    Dolphins Ndamukong Suh defers judgment on starting guards (with VIDEO) http://fw.to/IybCUTK

    I didn’t listen to the video, but it’s a good point, I’d let Suh have a say in who the starting RG should be.

  145. steveccnv says:

    I’ve been opposed to getting Mathis, because I thought between Turner, Linkenbach, Thomas, and Douglas we could find 2 starting guards, and it will hurt our cap next yr. I’m getting tired of our guards getting blown up every day in practice, RG doesn’t bother me as much as LG, because of Suh. If we go into one more season with an Oline as bad as it’s been…

    Time to get Mathis now!

  146. Mike E. says:

    Steve

    I think that with all the moves we’ve made this season, with what seems like a clear effort to get us over the hump, if they really think that our guys can’t cut it, we’ll sign Mathis. I just don’t think they know that yet.

    • D says:

      Reports so far have been hat LG competition has been pretty good, Thomas and Douglas both are looking pretty good. Biggest concern has been RG, hell they even brought Thomas over to RG on some first team reps the other days, so a little vote of confidence in him, though i really really hope they dont fuck around with moving him there again and just let him have his chance at LG. Mathis to me is very unilkely to be signed unless he comes off his price tag. I think concern with RG plays a little into some desire to sign him, but they do and should be sure there is no hope for our guys before they pay him what he is asking for.

  147. Mike E. says:

    Suh-i-side. lol

    • wyoming85 says:

      LMAO!

      Best one yet!

    • Tim Knight says:

      Good one!

      That reminds me of a funny story. Back when we were in our late teens we went to Seaside. On the way back a friend of ours old smelly shoes were in the car we were driving in so as we drove we threw them out the window and called it shoe-i-side. LOL

  148. getterdone says:

    Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley
    Lazor on the playbook: “It has been changed. … When you don’t grow, you end up dying off at some point.”

    • Tim Knight says:

      I would expect nothing less. It was Lazor’s first season as an NFL OC and he had to get his feet wet and learn our personnel, and then yet again this year with the changes in personnel, especially at WR and TE with Cameron. Different skill sets.

    • steveccnv says:

      Always Be Changing. is the number 1 rule of business, if you’re not changing you’re hurting the business.

  149. Tim Knight says:

    LOL @ Mike, I thought the same thing as I typed that.

  150. getterdone says:

    Lazor’s offense scored 388 points in 2014, the most since 1995. Still, Philbin wants more. His goal is again 400, which would average to 25 per game.

    How does Lazor plan to get there? By continuing to reinvent.

    “It has changed,” Lazor said of the playbook. “I can’t give you the percentage, but when you don’t grow, you end up dying off at some point. … There’s a constant adaptation. We study some of the teams in the league that are the best statistically at what they do and you take the emotion of the weekly game plan out of it, you really look at it and you really evaluate what do our players do best?”

    When discussing the pace of the offense, Lazor said: “We’re going to go as fast as Ryan Tannehill and Mike Pouncey can go. The other guys got to keep up.”

    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article29951190.html#storylink=cpy

    • Tim Knight says:

      Lazor seems like a smart guy with a good coaching career ahead of him. Though we want to win right now, let’s be realistic about our circumstances. We’re not going to be a juggernaut offense after 5 days of TC practices with all the personnel changes on the OL and at some of the skill positions. Let’s at least see it after 3 PS games.

  151. Mike E. says:

    I actually think you have to wait until the regular season. Rarely do teams show everything in the PS. I just hope whatever we start with is good enough to get us some wins.

    • getterdone says:

      We need to get out of the gates by beating two lesser opponents early in week 1 – 2 Redskins then Jaguars, both on road..

      By game 3 we need to be coming together well for 2 division opponents in Miami vs. the Bills & in London vs. Jets

      Then the Titans on the road & Texans in Miami…..before going to NE.

      There’s a strong chance if our OL plays well, that we could actually start 6-0 or 5-1 before we face the Pats on the road.

      Go Phins!

      • Mike E. says:

        That would be awesome. I really want to finish strong, but a fast start would be good too.

  152. jetsssuck says:

    Al in MIA says:
    August 4, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    jetsssuck says:
    August 4, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    if I’m correct 1st amendment might come into affect also

    The first amendment speaks of restrictions on government action not private enterprise 🙂
    Reply

    stangerx says:
    August 4, 2015 at 2:58 pm

    That is true AL. First amend is only about the gov telling you what to say or not. Doesn’t stop you, me, or Omar from saying shut the F up.
    —————————————————————————
    first amend- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_association
    Freedom of association is the right to join or leave groups of a person’s own choosing, and for the group to take collective action to pursue the interests of members.[1] It is both an individual right and a collective right, guaranteed by all modern and democratic legal systems, including the United States Bill of Rights, article 11 of the European Convention on Human Rights and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and international law, including articles 20 and 23 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and Conventions 87 and 98 of the International Labor Organization.

    Freedom of association is primarily manifested through the right to join a trade union, free speech or debating societies, political parties, or any other club or association such as religious groups, fraternities, or sport clubs. It is closely linked with the freedom of assembly, particularly under the US Bill of Rights. More specifically the freedom of assembly is understood in a political context, although depending on the source (constitution, human rights instrument, etc.) the right to freedom of association may be understood to include the right to freedom of assembly.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Generally this prohibits the government from suppressing unions
      But not the private sector

      However most labor laws that apply to the private sector rely on the 1st amendment as their backbone

      It’s been a whole since I studied this stuff in law school
      But in this case you are both right as a practical matter

      However I don’t expect a private entity to be sued in federal court over a violation of the 1st amendment
      However they might end up in fed court for violating federal labor lAws which exist in a large part bc of the 1st amendment

      So this issue is not so straightforward

  153. Tim Knight says:

    jetssuck, you seem to be on a different plain than everyone else. You don’t seem to have much desire to discuss the current Dolphins team. We all throw in a little something else for humor at times but you seem to want to keep it somewhere else.

    Mixing civil rights and sports seems to be a bit out there. What’s your quest if I may be so bold?

  154. steveccnv says:

    Pig, you need to go down to 30 Rockefeller Center and offer your services to SNL.

  155. The Flying Pig says:

    Are they hiring attorneys

  156. finfanrob says:

    getterdone says:
    August 4, 2015 at 8:17 pm

    FFR after reading Omar tweets on the blog or Rockphin reading posts on baseball?

    nope, not even close. maybe to some extent you fuckers reacting to omar like you are a bunch of sixth graders. but it isnt my head i am banging against something.

  157. finfanrob says:

    Mike E. says:
    August 4, 2015 at 5:40 pm

    That was pretty low Rob, sorry bud

    lol, thanks. apology accepted. here lets shake on it.

  158. steveccnv says:

    We made more red-zone trips than any team in the NFL in 2014, but our redzone TD % wasn’t good enough, RT was the best at moving the ball between the 20s, blah, blah, blah…

    Our O, RT, needs to make 1st downs with a lead in the 4th, and needs to score when behind in the 4th when behind, the other stats while meaningful, aren’t quite as important.

  159. getterdone says:
  160. Tim Knight says:

    I actually think Jennings is going to be a huge part of our season. Maybe not dominant statistically like he once was, but as a mentor for the young WRs and productive for the team.

    • steveccnv says:

      I expect them to be dominant as a unit, it doesn’t matter who does what, but yeah I’m with you on Jennings.

      When Jennings was in GB, in his early yrs, the guy I was playing in FF had him. I was giving him shit about his team, and he said you don’t like Jennings? I didn’t even know who he was, but I found out that Monday Night and have been a huge fan ever since.

  161. steveccnv says:

    Walker says Terrence F-A-D-EE is making strides. What an idiot, how does he keep his job, he does a video on a player and he can’t even pronounce his name. Way to go the extra mile Walker. We all know his name rhymes with Today, Fuday.

  162. steveccnv says:

    James Walker ‏@JamesWalkerNFL · 9h9 hours ago
    NFL Nation TV wonders if there is a trickle-down effect from Russell Wilson’s deal http://espn.go.com/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/14151

    Fuck, every time a QB resigns they write the same shit. Of course it will.

  163. Ken says:

    Jetssuck:
    I hate to correct you but the 1st amendment has nothing to do with the Patriots situation. The 1st amendment applies to governmental interference with the right to free speech and assembly. There is no such interference in the matter between Brady and the league. Nor does the 4th amendment apply because we are not talking about a government seizure of property. Nor was there any seizure of property. Rather what happened is a common cause of action that occurs in private matters called spoliation of evidence where a party destroys items of evidentiary significance in a dispute between 2 parties.
    You have been corrected.

    • Try Pod says:

      I never understood why people always try to apply the constitution to these things. I’m not the smartest guy, but I was always aware the protections given were for the people from their government.

      • Ken says:

        It really is pretty straight forward but people confuse these issues all the time. Just because they government can’t interfere with your right to speak freely doesn’t mean your employer can’t.

      • Try Pod says:

        Right. The other thing some don’t get is that you still have consequences associated with your actions, as if there is nothing that can happen because you chose a course. I think you’re protected from reprisals, but not consequences- as I understand it.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      The first amendment does protect the right to organize
      but that does not agree to the private sector
      The NLRA and most the labor laws the NLRB enforces adopts simiiiar language to the 1st amendment and those labor laws do apply to the private sector

      Walmart, for example has been sued (or complained to the NLRB) many times base don allegation that they attempted to surpress employees in their stores from joining unions or organizing

      I know its not the same thing as a 1st amendment violation
      but you can see, that sometimes the lines may appear blurred

      In many ways, when it comes to unions, the private sector and the public sector have to treat unions the same way

      I have no idea whether any of this is relevant to what started this discussion…lol

      • The Flying Pig says:

        “apply”not agree

      • Ken says:

        It’s only relevant because Jetssucks is trying to be a provocateur by using buzz words such as the 1st and 4th amendment to support his pro Patriots agenda that really has nothing to do with the situation at all.

  164. steveccnv says:

    I keep hearing good things about RB LaMichael James, it would be nice, if he was our kickoff returner.

    • getterdone says:

      Him or Bobby McCain who did well as a returner in college…

      • The Flying Pig says:

        and bobby mccain plays the harmonica

        dooo dooo dooooooooooooo

      • steveccnv says:

        I just meant I really don’t want Landry returning kicks, but I do want a guy that can contribute on O or D, not a specialist. I think James can be valuable near the goal line and on 3rd down, as can Damien, just another weapon. I think Gillislee may be gone.

  165. finfanrob says:

    lol, just love you guys missing the whole agenda of a jets hater.

  166. Ken says:

    I agree with Tim. I think Jennings is in for a big year both statistically and as a mentor.

  167. getterdone says:

    Jennings has very quick hands to the ball, I like how he catches it away from his body.
    He’s the solid vet presence this unit needed and he comes with a ring to talk about.

  168. getterdone says:
    • steveccnv says:

      They said Suh has great core strength, that’s why he’s able to do what he does. I’d like to see him teach others on the team how to strengthen their core.

  169. D says:

    Steve, it is Always Be Closing….

    • steveccnv says:

      That’s the ABC acronym, but you also need to have constant change. When I was in business with my dad he taught me that. He should’ve taken his own advice and expanded as much as he could when business was booming. Right before I left the Calif. business there was a young Asian man in his 20s that we bought supplies from, that didn’t even know that industry existed a few yrs before, that retired a wealthy man, because he had the balls to go for it big time.

  170. Tim Knight says:

    What did I say about about the Mets scoring 3-5+ runs instead of 0-2.

    5 runs instead of 3-2 losses changes everything. Every team has those type of 2-1 games. But you can’t survive that every game.

    This team’s pitching will win most 5-3 games. Now the lineup is catching up.

  171. wyoming85 says:

    Bang My Head was for the whole conversation!!!!!!!!!!!
    Not the outcome!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Who gives a Rats Fornicating Anus what tommy girl and the Cheets have done in the past?
    They didn’t have to face Suh twice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Just Sayin!

  172. getterdone says:

    Tripp looking comfortable.

  173. wyoming85 says:

    Miami Dolphins ‏@MiamiDolphins · 54m54 minutes ago
    #StrongerTogether

  174. wyoming85 says:

    Greg Likens ‏@GregLikens · 33m33 minutes ago
    My 3 observations from today’s #Dolphins practice:

    http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/article-4/3-Observations-From-Training-Camp-Practice-5/3b2cf8f1-cd4f-4c5f-883e-668620e47c4f

  175. Rhino says:

    Oakland A’s trade relief pitcher O’Flaherty to Mets for ptbnl (You guys now got our 7th and 8th inning setup guys…)

    • Rhino says:

      he’s a loony now. good numbers vs lefties, horrible vs righties. Mets serious about “fine details” to trade for a guy to come in vs ONE lefty in crucial situations. A’s blog says Clippard vouched for him!

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