Oh the Horror…
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Game Wrap Up with The Little Prawn: Bills @ Dolphins
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Finsmob Unleashed 
Next week is a new game, and it will likely determine the course the rest of our season will take. Most teams don’t come back for a 1-3 start, even good teams,which we are the furthest thing from right now. We lose this Sunday and we don’t make the playoffs, simple as that. There is no way this team is capable of finishing out 9-3, which is what it will take to make the playoffs as a wildcard. NE will wiln the division, so we will again be fighting for that WC spot.
IN THE INFAMOUS WORDS OF JIM MORA, – – – “Playoffs??, Playoffs? –Did somebody say playoffs??? – – – We may not win another game, and you’re saying playoffs?”
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DON’T KNOW if you read my comments late last night when I returned to Tampa Bay from Miami, but in the 49 years I’ve gone to Dolphins’ games, this was the FIRST TIME I ever left at the end of the 1st quarter!! –This team played worse, and LOOKED WORSE, than at any time in their history since 1966 with the exception of the 62-7 drubbing in Dan’s last game vs. Jacksonville. –And speaking of Jacksonville, that very same Jaguars team that beat Philbin’s Fins last Sunday gave up 51 points to the Pats yesterday!!! –Baseball has “Shoeless Joe,” and the Dolphins have “Clueless Joe!” –But I’m SURE we’ll all feel better a week from now because Miami’s FAVORED by 1 point in London over Todd Bowles’ Jets. Look for another ex-Dolphin to “get even” with Miami!
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The last four years the Bills are 5-2 against Miami and 18-26 vs. the rest of the NFL. –Time for Ross to fire Philbin. But, he won’t, not just yet.
Man we suck something awful
The whole team was as flat as I can remember ever watching
Coyle has got to go, now
That D is just a mess
I mean how HOW do you turn freakin Suh
Into a pedestrian lineman ?
Sherman / lazor – lazor / Sherman
Is there really a difference ?
Sure do love the Phins but this season could get painful
Miami: The city where free agents come to die, even “generational talents” like Ndomakung Suh.
watch the game again and look at his seasonal career tackles per season. Suh is not the problem.DL has problems but its not Suh
DOLPHINS-JETS
GO PHINS!!!
I agree that Suh is not the problem. He has 2-3 guys on him usually. The problem is a DC who has made this defense worse yearly until he finally accomplished a goal. The worst D in football(slight exaggeration). Tannehill has a limited skillset and so Laxor does nothing at all to benefit him. I really think Tanny ,may be broken after this year. He has never played behind a decent OL. He probably would not know how to function without the constant pressure.
This team does nothing well. My only consolation is that Philbin will probably be the HC at Portmouth High next year(or something) and these coordinators will never hold their jobs again at this level. I have to agree with OD though. I don’t think we will hire a good HC because Ross will never give them what they want. Control over their program.
Oh and Bills OC who likes to run a lot? 5 straight passes to start the massacre. Lazor? Same old crap. Four straight passes on the 2 yard line? Who does that anywhere else? Not even in GB, Indy, Denver, or the 90s Dolphins. It’s just stupid. Who expects anything different in the Massacre in London?
Howie, 21-20 Jets.
well said New Age. Some things about football can not be reinvented.
Hmm, let’s see…
Miami is at home, the home of fish and chips, fish are in the sea, Miami will have to cross the sea to play at home,,, this will probably be a nail-biter…
27- 13 ‘N other Y ear of being a J oke
I believe it was Beethoven who wrote “Ode to Joy”.. I think Piggy has answered with his “Oh the Horror”…
It does have a classical feel to it
I thought LAST week was an “embarrassing Monday” at work for Fin Fans. Today will truly be a walk of shame. I’m sure my friends got plenty of sleep and still have tons of sarcastic one-liners waiting for me. 😦 I haven’t been this disheartened since 2007. If after spending like the team did this offseason, there are no changes, then we are a rudderless ship for sure.
LMAO
OK, who is this Zombie team that has taken over our Dolphins?
they definately resemble the walking dead
These Dolphins play without Porpoise.
and your not just saying that for the halibut
It’s because I’m shellfish
Sitting on your lofty perch
You’re both being Bassholes.
At least we’re not the only disfunctional team out there:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/when-in-the-jets–locker-room–don-t-trash-talk-the-jets-on-twitter-004310559.html
Send Joe to London for his last Hoorah but only give him a one way ticket.
Then have Ray Lewis ready to take over this team.
I see everyone playing tentative because they have to be so fucking right on everything they do so they don’t get lambasted in the film room, they play without emotion or instinct. Joe sucks it out of them.
Why does our first round pick get only a handful of snaps?
Ray Lewis for coach of the Dolphins.
Need the fire and the first coach who snake dances as he emerges from the tunnel.
The coaching merry-go-round continues to spin in Miami. When will fans learn that it’s about the players? Average talent….average team. You only go as far as your leaders on the field can take you. If they’re average…well…you know by now.
Randy!
Haven’t watched the game yet but the scores told me all I need to know. Mike told me we wouldn’t sack any coaches until the end of the season in “Ask Mike”. My response to that is this. Coyle MUST be fired today. When you have that much talent in your D, things MUST happened, plays MUST be executed properly, schemes MUST be put in place which allow the talent to shine through. What we get is total crap served up to our players. Playing 10 yards of the WRs is stupid.I am so mad it is hurting. Something has to be done pronto. I pay top dollar to get Game Pass and to date I haven’t even had the remotest desire to watch this game. Rex Ryan may have a foot fetish but he can coach the panys of quesy Joe and his 2 suckups. PATHETIC!
Btw good morning to you all, I will hit the bed shortly.
good morning Uwant
pretty much agreed on eveyrthing
sb7!
Pants of queasy Joe*
Bastard is nowhere near being called Bazooka Joe Too bloody timid.
Randy, good to see you pal. I think we are thin in some spots but overall talent is good. You don’t think coaching is part of the problem?
What I mean is poor game planning, an instilled fear of the repercussions of “going off script” to make plays, bad breakdowns of opponents, and an inability to unite the players.
What’s up, Randy? Hope life is treating you well.
I think that a great coaching staff/FO can make a bigger difference in football than any other sport, but yeah, it ultimately comes down to the players. We are lacking in several areas and when they play uninspired football that’s the result you get.
Capped out, big money vets not contributing enough, porous OL, bad chemistry, little effort, and clueless coaching staff. Afraid we are in blow it up territory. Sounds familiar.
The only possible halftime speech he could have given was, if you want me to continue to be your coach then you have to show it in the second half. They sort of did then said nah.
I feel just as bad this morning as I did last night. Fuck this team. They always tear your heart out.
Philbin “the loser” should have the decency and quit this week. Nice game plan asshole.
You were right all along, I thought things could change. This sucks.
Hey son!
Of course, coaching can always be part of the problem, and I’m not absolving them. Personally, I disagree with Lazor’s offensive philosophy, but that doesn’t mean it can’t work if the players do their job. But, what I’ve seen is a lack of execution by players. Missed assignments, missed tackles, just flat out bone headed plays and getting out played physically. I can’t think of a single player or unit that is playing good on this team over the first three games.
Professionals should never need a coach to get them fired up to play. If you don’t have that fire inside you….go flip burgers…don’t blame the coach.
Well sorry that’s not how it works. NFL players aren’t your normal employee. They won’t got flip burgers because they don’t have to. Someone will pay them millions to fuck around. You have to motivate them and put them in a position to succeed or they’ll just earn their paycheck win or lose. What difference does it make to suh if we’re 10-6 or 2-14? nothing. He’ll get paid no matter what.
this article from Mando nails it.
“Because Ross continues to do the same thing over and over, expecting a different outcome. He refuses to clean house and start anew.”
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2015/09/miami-dolphins-have-issues-on-multiple-levels.html
This also from the same article. Its about coaching stupid!
“It just seems that Philbin comes from the viewpoint that players either make plays or they don’t and that coaches aren’t going to make that big a difference as long as they didn’t really bungle the week of preparation or the management of the game.
But much of the NFL comes at it from a different viewpoint and that is a coach should put his players in a position to succeed. And if that coach discovers the player failed when he’s in the position to succeed, he has to take an active role in making that player much better or finding a replacement.”
Welcome back Randy
I think its both
the players and the coaches
but I don;t think good coaches can make bad players good
I do think good players can make bad coaches look much better than they are
Also glad you are back
I have been criticizing Tanny a lot int he last couple weeks and I’m nowhere near as good as it as you are….lol
But good coaches can make average players appear better (see belichik)
I’m just hoping the Miko thing doesn’t blow up into a national story
Even if we lose I would like the stories about the Dolphins to be about football not off field stuff
I cannot take another Martin/incognito thing
Piggs, I’m sick of hearing how great Tannehill is going to be. Seems we’re always chasing this sudden reality that will hit. Tyrod started his 3rd game (incidentally he was a son favorite in his draft) and kicked our ass and he’s put up way more points in this three week span than in any 3 game span of Tannehill’s career. Hey the deep ball gets you points!
Tannehill is the golden handcuffs
too much potential and too good to give up on
not good enough to make up for other flaws on this team
Its really a tough situation with him
but in short – I think he is one flaw on a team with many flaws
not a good player in spite of a flawed team, which is what I keep hearing about him
IF the bills can win with tyrod taylor we should be able to win with Tanny.
drg,
I always put it on the players. If you really look at it, our coaches don’t call a game a whole lot different than other teams in the league. The difference is…do our players make plays? Rarely.
We have average or below average talent at OL, LB, QB, WR and DB. I think the only unit that’s a + unit is our DL…and they aren’t getting it done either. Aikens is terrible. McCain looks like he doesn’t realize he’s playing football. Our LBers might as well not even be on the field. Vernon is average. Wake is…where? Our QB is limited and never seems capable of getting us off to a fast start. No big plays because he can’t make the throws. Fox sucks…knew that last year. Thomas is pissing me off because he should be playing better. Pouncey lets too much pressure up inside.
When you throw 6 yard passes ALL game long…you better be good enough to sustain it. We’re not even close.
Boulder,
Well, if a player is just doing it for the money then no coach is gonna be able to motivate them. I tend to believe that most of these pros are ultra competitors and have been all their lives more than likely. Maybe I’m just wrong.
I just don’t agree that players are professionals and need no coaching or leadership and should just do their job.
Suh didn’t all of a sudden stopped being a good player. The game plan yesterday had something to do with our loss. And the players don’t design the game plan.
Are we really that much worst than the bills talent wise? Or do they have the coaches that create the best game plan to put their players in a position to succeed and win?
The game yesterday seemed like we’re a college team playing an NFL team. Do we have college level talent? Is our talent that bad?
Piggy,
Hey, thanks for keeping up with the heat on Tannehill! He is what he is…average and limited. I think Lazor’s system is made to generate numbers/stats. That’s why Tanny can put up stats and look “good” and still lose! Lol
Frankly, I blame Tanny more than anyone…coaches included. He just does absolutely nothing to get this team off to the right start. Last year and this year he plays one good half or quarter but rarely a whole game. His protection isn’t any different than most QBs in the league and he has “his” WRs who supposedly fit this system now. I’m tired of the excuses.
As soon as I saw the stat hit the screen saying 154 straight passes without a pick I knew we were doomed.
For a little while Tanny had evened out his TD passes on the season with his int’s just where he loves to be .500, but he got a couple of meaningless TD’s to boost his horrible day.
Boulder,
I didn’t say players don’t no coaching. I just don’t think they should need to be motivated to play their best.
And I also think folks have overrated our talent level…for years.
Why does Parker only get a handful of snaps?
How come we can’t manage to even throw one ball towards Stills? ( oh nevermind there was that air mail one waaaay late in the game)
Where the hell is Wake? Suh is eating blockers like he’s supposed to.
Where the hell is vernon? Suh is eating blockers like he’s supposed to.
Randy,
Agreed with the personnel issues. Coaching is mostly about what happens off the field and instilling an identity in your players. What’s our identity? Teams that are perennial losers lack any type of leadership or direction. We aren’t getting it from Ross. We’ve been asking who the leaders in the locker room are for years now. Pouncey? Wake? Tannehill? Ugh… Got to start with a coach/GM that will give the team some stability and direction.
I’ve never been too high on Tannehill, but he’s at least good enough to build the team around. That’s about the best I can come up with right now.
Well Wake and Suh do have manhattan
If coaches aren’t more accountable to the product on the field, then why do players leave us and end up making positive contributions to other teams? Not always, but often? Oh, and BTW- Hi Randy!
Chris McCain can’t sniff the field but Sheppard continues to not make plays (or any of the linebackers for that matter)
Good to see ya Randy. I think Tannehill could be better, but just like Suh is not the problem, either is Tannehill. It’s just that neither of them are the solution. Problems go deeper than that. Our schemes on both sides SUCK! I hate our offense, and our defense is predictable and unimaginative.
Try,
Hi! I wish I was coming back to a 3-0 start. This is so disappointing, and I figured we were an 8-10 win team to begin with.
Well, I for one appreciate you fighting the good fight, when you can.
I hear you concerning players play, but I don’t think this particualr coaching staff learns how to maximize a players’ strengths. The still try to put the round peg in the square hole, to the detriment of the team.
Son,
No kidding. That’s what you want from your “leaders”, right? Kick out everyone so you can have your space. Maybe Barry Bonds will loan them his Lazy Boy recliner for the season.
It could be worse- we could have picked Kapersniffer…
I have a redskins fan colleague. He said even though we beat the skins we’re in worst shape than they are and I agree. This team looks to me it’ll be picking top 5 in 2016 draft.
drg
Tannehill is good enough to build around if you want an average team. He’s too easy to gamplan against. Play your coverage up tight, bring pressure and make him dump the ball off. He’s very easy to sack because he sucks in the pocket and doesn’t read or anticipate pressure. Then, when he does have time, he can’t make tough throws to put pressure on the defense. Teams don’t even need to defend the whole field against him. If he could hit deeper throws, defenses would need to back off, but he doesn’t do it consistently enough. This puts pressure on everyone on the offense. He can’t even get it close enough to get PI calls! When you need 10-12 play drives to score, screw ups are bound to happen more often than not unless you have a playmaking QB….we don’t.
I just wanted to take the time out of my work day to come onto a football blog and let you guys know that these players are supposed to be professionals and need to carry themselves as such. I will argue this point as well as others throughout the day.
SB
While I agree with you, it’s clear that certain coaches get more out of their talent than others. Belichick, Tomlin, Carroll, the Harbaugh brothers and a couple of others are consistently in or near the playofffs. Do you think thy just have better players, or do they work better with what they’re given?
coaching plays a big part of winning in football. not sure why people even argue this point.
I give you two LOLs for this reply.
Try,
But, haven’t we been saying that about every coach we’ve had for the past decade? Lol. Coaches are always the easiest scapegoat.
Sooner or later, players need to make plays. Coaching matters….players playing good matters more. There are lots of ways to run an offense or defense, and they can all be successful if the players execute. My biggest issue with our coaches is their inability or unwillingness to make proper adjustments as the game goes along. Where’s the max protect? Where’s the A-gap pressure we’ve seen work in the past? Where’s the run blitzes? Where’s the damn commitment to a running game and not leaving your OL out to dry constantly? A draw? A screen pass?
So it’s more likely that we just pick players who cant play?
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly 9m9 minutes ago
Cameron Wake made his first tackle of the season YESTERDAY.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly 24m24 minutes ago
The problem I’ve noticed with the Dolphins since last November is THEY DON’T HAVE ANY SOLUTIONS to the problems. That is on the GM & coach.
Here we go with the Tannehate. It’s all his fault. He was the reason we have given up over 400 yards for 3 straight games. Guess what guys he is our QB and there is no better answer out there in either the draft or FA.
It seems to me we have big deficiencies in several areas on the team which opponents attack with ease (on the GM), we are very vanilla and highly predictable in the way we attack teams offensively and defensively (coaching) and a lot of the players out there give up and have been doing for some years (on players and coaches).
Belicheat makes 2+2 = 8. Philbin makes 2+2 = 2.
I probably haven’t explained it that well, but Queasy summed it up better than me below. It ain’t working, but at least he has a handle on how to fix it.
MikeE,
H! I do agree some coaches are better at it than others, but a guy like bellicheat didn’t do it in Cleveland, for example. It’s the QB. I think philbin is a good coach. I just don’t think he’s probably a great fit as a HC. But, sometimes it takes guys a couple head coaching opportunities to figure it out.
When you change players and bring in new ones and yet the TEAM looks the same its the coaching….
amen markeyh. I’ve been saying this for 2 years now.
Tyrod Taylor looked great yesterday because he was playing our defense. Tannehill has a handicapp in that regard. He doesn’t get to play our defense.
You’re just another TanneShill… lol
Ken,
I can leave for another couple months if the Tannehill reality…not hate…is just too much for folks. Lol
I haven’t seen him lift his play or the play of others around him. Like it or not…that’s his job. And, there’s no law against him going out and raising his level of play to actually win a game, is there? He’s just as much a part of this disaster as anybody else on the team. When was the last time he was the reason we won a game? When have we ever seen him take over a game and pull the team up wth him? Just because there’s nobody to draft to replace him doesn’t mean he’s above reproach. He needs to play better.
you really can’t raise anyone’s play when you’re running for your life the whole game.
Don’t leave- though I don’t know how much he is responsible for, I agree he is not above reproach nor is he better than a mid-level qb. He does not do things to win games, but I think this staff just wants him to do what he does- dink and dunk. And his deep ball is a joke- it’s nonzexistent and does nothing to make the opposing defense change up their approach.
Randy,
Tannehill isn’t elite, but how many QBs are? He’s perfectly capable of doing what Dalton does in Cincy or Alex Smith in KC. You can be a playoff team with that caliber of play from the QB position. It’s not like elite QBs are easy to find and I don’t have a good alternative.
We need to hit on early draft picks and rebuild the team around him. OL, DB, and LB would be a great start.
If I were Ross, I would back the money truck up to michigan next year and try and take Jim Harbaugh away from his almamater.
I wonder how long this debate….players/coaches….has been going on in football? Lol
It’s always a combination of factors and not just one thing.
Randy
Harbaugh did it with Kaep. Nuff said. lol
It seems to me we have big deficiencies in several areas on the team which opponents attack with ease (on the GM), we are very vanilla and highly predictable in the way we attack teams offensively and defensively (coaching) and a lot of the players out there give up and have been doing for some years (on players and coaches).
Belicheat makes 2+2 = 8. Philbin makes 2+2 = 2.
I probably haven’t explained it that well, but Queasy summed it up better than me below. It ain’t working, but at least he has a handle on how to fix it.
Let’s see if this gets stuck in moderation too?
LMAO
You know what’s consistent? The same fucking debates every year here with our team, because every year it’s the same damn result. The team is mediocre or worse, some blame the coaches, some the players, and some both. I wish we didn’t have to do this exercise every fucking year
I’m sure the same debates have been going on in cleveland, detroit, oakland etc…
The shitty teams remain shitty and their fans are left debating at whose fault it is for yet another season of crappy play and being the laughing stock of the league.
Such is life in the dolphan world which we live in.:-(
drg
Yes, you can win with an average QB. But, you usually do it when another part of your team is dominant. We simply don’t have that. He was paid like an upper echelon player…time to play like one.
And, I thought we already rebuilt the team around him! Lol
There never are any easy answers. If you luck into an elite HC or QB then enjoy the ride. Otherwise, develop a strong front office and run a tight ship. There’s plenty of good coaches and players out there that will thrive in a stable, well run organization.
BoulderPhinfan says:
September 28, 2015 at 11:22 am (Edit)
If I were Ross, I would back the money truck up to michigan next year and try and take Jim Harbaugh away from his almamater.
*****
I don’t think it’s possible
But yeah – I would have loved Harbaugh
And still would love him
I’m curious to see what he does with Michigan
Maybe 2-3 years from now we can make a run
Want to keep Philbin for a few more years?….lol
NO!!!!! I think the phins should take a 3 year hiatus from the NFL until Harbaugh become available LOL
MikeE,
Harbaugh did it with a really good OL….which they’ve lost. Kaeppersniffer just hung on for the ride. Lol
I was begging, pleading for us to take an OL in the 1st or 2nd RD. No, we draft a DT after just giving a different DT a $100M contract. Brilliant!
me too mike. me too. WTF does it matter if you have stills and parker when you don’t have anyone blocking in the passing game. Fuckin idiots.
Randy,
So trade Tannehill and roll with a Matt Moore/Fitzpatrick/Taylor/McCown at 5-8 million/year instead? That’s not going to solve anything either.
I’m not thrilled with paying him that much either, but it’s the reality of the NFL today. He works his ass off, is a solid guy, and yeah, can play QB better than at least half of the other QBs out there. I’d prefer we get the defense in order and see where that takes us.
We have fielded the one of, if not the worst defense in the league since Week 9 last season. That’s where I start if I had to fix something.
Boulder, I’m sure you’re right. OAK seems to be heading in the right direction actually.
of course they are. They went out and got a good coach last year unlike us.
They have good young QB, yet they ran the ball at least 30 times to victory. We run the ball 5 frigging times a game. It’s so freaking ridiculous!
Mike
We almost had La’el Collins
That was the one that got away IMO
And I don’t blame the FO for the way they handled that one
That was just bad luck
We didn’t everything we could
Agree- there was little more they could have done to get him.
Piggy
Do you really think we were going to draft La’el if his ex GF wasn’t killed? I don’t think there’s a shot. I think we were taking Parker either way.
I don’t know
I give it 70/30 in favor of drafting Parker
But I do think they liked La’el a lot
I think he was referring to in the supplemental draft.
Ok, so I was wrong- again.
Boulder
Speaking of Stills, that trade looks pretty awful right about now. Next year’s 3rd RD pick gone!
I thought that was 2015 3rd round pick. Not next year. Either way we should have gotten Oline help not more receivers.
It was this year’s 3rd. That trade was mainly to get rid of Ellerbe’s deal and to get a young WR who had proven he can play.
BTW I’m gonna be in Germany next week for work. Can’t wait to watch us get destroyed by the Jets in the right time zone 🙂
I bet we win
And we play .500 football all season
That is true torture
If we go 1-3 and are 0-2 in division home games to e lesser AFC east teams – I know it’s over
And that would be too kind for this Dolphins team
They like slow torture not quick death
LOL. I guess we’ll see.
Make sure to drink a HoffBrau Hefe Weissen for me, please.
sure thing.
I tend to think the first priority for this team is to bring in a few defensive players around Suh and not the OL
LBs, another safety and DE
I would be able to spend a whole draft on defense
But it’s so early in the season
I’m not going to talk draft yet
Just saying that the emphasis on OL on this blog sometimes leaves me confused
And I acknowledge that the OL has played poorly
But I do think part of that is scheme and situation
Anyway it’s sept
I have to see how it plays out over the year
But IMO so far the most underwhelming players have been on defense
Where it appears we lack talent
It’s a close between fix the OL or fix the LBs we could also use another CB and S. Too many holes right now.
I would fire Coyle and hire miko grimes as DC. At least she has some fight in her. Coyle would curl up into the fetus position if a puppy barked at him.
Try
I know Piggy meant getting Collins as an UDFA, but that’s like locking the stable door after the horses ran away. Too little too late. We had no intentions of really fixing the O-line, and again, they counted heavily on gimpy Albert being the cornerstone of the O-line, which I said a 1000X was a big mistake. I would never have done that.
See above- I realize that, now. Also, I don’t think anyone is or will argue with you that the o-line was poorly addressed- other than personnel manager of the Dolphins, perhaps.
I don’t even know what to say. We’re obviously not a good team. So disgusted.
There are losses, and there are losses where you like you don’t belong on the field. This was the latter.
Yep! And in your home opener against a division rival.
In total agreement with DRG on Tannehill. He is not elite but he has enough talent that you can win with him.
I’m in the same club. He’s not the answer, but he’s not the problem either. He’s good enough to win with. Our offense right now is so predictable without any semblance of a rushing offense. That’s not Tannehill’s fault. He also has shitty protection almost every throw.
Agree- when you have strength somewhere else on your team, he can do what it takes to win a game. But he will not win you the game by his play alone. It’s not who he is, nor should it be expected of him.
agreed. The tanny and suh debate is mundane. We’re stuck with those 2 for a while. We need to build an offense and defense around them . They’re not going anywhere.
Boulder
You’re correct about Stills. I’m glad you’re right about that!
I think Hickey and Tannenbaum should be renting not buying. Everyone’s job in this organization should be up for review right now. They all have had a hand to play in the disaster which is the 2015 miami dolphins.
Gotta run to court Peace.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000541161/article/joe-philbin-on-dolphins-loss-it-starts-with-me
************
Joe knows!
He always says this stuff
He always takes he blame
I less concerned with who to blame
And more concerned with how do you fix it
Randy:
You don’t have to run off the blog if people disagree with you about Tannehill. We all have our own opinions and sometimes they may even be heated but it is a blog and the differences of opinion are what make the blog interesting. Glad to see you back on. Now I am off.
Yeah Randy, just because Tanny is your scapegoat instead of Joe, it doesn’t mean you have to leave. 😉
Apparently things are so bad with this team that my 5 yo decided she’s a Chicago Bears fan.
Advanced welcome to Europe Boulder! Game kicks off at 2:30pm UK time so 3:30 German time.
Howie 24-17 Miami
Last year we were also 1-2 and the wheels were coming off but we met the hapless Raiders and got our season back on track (= the wheels came off later on). The optimist in me sees the same pattern this season.
The pessimist btw fears a loss. Then we have 2-5 more years in the wilderness and ……..
thanks man. I’m hoping the change of scenery might help. But these Jets aren’t the raiders of last year. The Jets defense will give tanny similar issues as the bills did.
I just have to find a place to watch it. I’m gonna be in Frankfurt staying at the Westin. I’m sure they’ll be able to let me know a bar to watch the game at.
Agreed – the Jets are much better than they were last year and the Raiders were like the Keystone Kops.
Never tried to watch a game in Germany, but Koln are playing in the Bundesliga at 14:30 and there are 2 x 16:30 kick-off games too which may be on some tvs. Usually bets to try to find an Irish pub!
I’d rather get blown out by the Jets and shake things up than go 8-8 or 7-9 again. I really would.
I want to see a win even if we lose the rest of this season’s games (except the Fest game of course) PS Stuck in moderation again above.
We are what we are. Completely average all over the field. Why would fans expect anything other than a .500 record? Fans lie to themselves about the “talent” on their teams all over the NFL every year b/c they wanna believe. It’s called hope…and NFL teams do a great job of selling it every year.
I questioned if we were really as good as we were hoping for but I didn’t think we were this bad.
I don’t think we are as bad as we were yesterday
It’s probably he low point of the season
But I don’t see a playoff team
Not sure if any team is that bad Tim, but the NFL has a habit of creating perfect storms and perfect clusterfucks. Buffalo ticked one box, we ticked the other.
I have NEVER gone to bed before a Dolphins game finished (including most night games which can go on until 5am here) but last night it was 10:30pm and we were down 17-zip and I left the recorder on knowing it was over. I’m struggling to see the heart, soul and identity of this team.
Not sure it has any of the above.
well we are 1-2.If I remember correctly we won our division in Sparnos first season when we started 0-2. It’s a long season and everything is correctable. Reme3mber we have new personnel on team 22. We have new DL coach. we have a OL that hasn’t practiced Full speed together whole season so far , we have TE that hasn’t played since 1st game, we have DC in booth this year instead of on field with players. Philbin needs him on field. We have Suh pushed to leadership role when he has always been a quite guy that leads by example. Wake has hamstring problem,Albert has knee problem and other injuries. NFL season is long anything can happen to the finish line
bring back the wildcat like sparano did LOL.
its a passing league now that’s why the nfl allowed teams to provide their own footballs for game. The teams get to practice with these balls so there is more passing yards which they say increases fans desire for more football
I really don’t know of a qb good enough to win is where you want to be in the NFL
It’s a QBs league
I say bull Randy. Our front 4 should be much better than average. Suh, Mitchell Wake and Vernon should be in the top5, certainly top 10. It’s like the opposite, they’re in the bottom 5.
watch the game again some interesting schemes emerged. They changed it up after the 1st 2 drives and they used somewhere up of 12 different schemes during game.
SB
I hope you’re kidding
Was sickening to watch Tyrod Taylor stand there with all day to throw time and time again! SMH
UK
Why are all your posts going to moderation
Are you posting from a new device?
Nope – same laptop – it seems to be when I post a link to a tweet? Even 1 triggers the dreaded e-censor.
I don’t get how you can have an OC that calls for an extremely low percentage fade (because our QB can’t make that throw) into the endzone time and again, game after game, or a DC that has defensive schemes that call for a DB to play 7 yds off the receiver on a 3rd and 3 and not feel the coaches are having a major impact on this team and are as big a part of the problem as the players could ever be.
I see a team that continually plays reactionary football on both sides of the ball. I see a soft offense that takes what the defense gives them instead of imposing their will and a defense that doesn’t attack but instead reacts to what is happening. That is all coaching and scheme.
One play stood out to me as the mentality of this entire team: A bubble screen by the Bills, we have a defender in place near the sideline, there is a wall of people to the defender’s left, the sideline to the right, the receiver is hemmed in by defenders closing in. The receiver is running right at our defender who is about 3 yds back. The receiver has nowhere to go except at our guy, So what does our defender do? He can’t be beat by a move, all he has to do is make the tackle. Does he attack the receiver? No he stands there and waits for the receiver to get to him, makes the tackle (after being dragged a yard or two). Good play? NO! Instead of no gain on the play, they pick up 4 yards.
It’s a soft mentality that permeates this entire team. A finesse offense, a reacting defense. We do three things totally consistently. We stuff power run formations, we play solid special teams and we play like shit everywhere else.
team takes on the coaches mentality. This is what you get when the coaches are soft mentally.
I have read that in this D, the DB decides how far off he/she plays off. To be fair to McCain, he tried to play bump and run early and he looked like the player who’d been bumped as he was 5 yards behind the receiver a second later. After that, he left a massive cushion on each play. The disappointing thing for me was that he gave up yards underneath all day but he was also beat deep again. And JT #22 wasn’t much better. But that doesn’t change your main point that we are more or less crap at everything. Which is true. 😦
Hmm, I’ve haven’t heard that anywhere, but then again I haven’t been reading a lot of articles much this year..but if that IS the case then in my mind it still falls back on coaching because any DB that plays 7-10 yards of the receiver when it’s 3rd and 3 is clearly making the wrong choices and needs to be coached up, yet we see it again and again, game after game.
Nope. I had to hear it from my MIL
Kong
I seem to see a lot of plays where we seem indifferent. Nobody seems mad about what’s happening. I think the HC sets that tone. There are no repercussions when you fail here. No accountability.
I think Coyles up in the booth doesn’t help Philbin because Philbin isn’t the vocal type. Gotta remember we have some 20 plus new players on team also.
“So bad so towards the end i literally sat there in the most peaceful mode i have been in for a game all year.”
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LOL, I did the same thing. It’s called acceptance. Fuck this damn team. I’m not picking scores anymore.
(Kong picks up his ball and goes home….after he found it laying seven yards out the back of the endzone after yet another Tannehill fade pass that had a zero probability of completion.)
SB
I’m sorry man. Maybe you can sill turn her to the (dark?) side?
I still have only little reasons to blame the players, and tons to blame the coaching. I have been pretty remiss to blame most of it on Philbin but for him to continue to let it go on, no matter how he may feel about the OC/DC doing their jobs without him controlling it, he is an ass for allowing for the shit to continue and for a game like last Sunday to drag on to the embarrassing level it did. He needs to be fired.
Coyle calls defensive schemes and positions players like he is terrified to have any of his players hit. There are still no consistent aggressive plays (though i did see a few twists and stunts, blitzes,etc that i didnt see almost any of in previous games). He had his CB line up fucking 15 yards off the line…. He only marginally uses his OLB’s to apply pressure. He brings corner blitzes with the corner lined so far outside there is almost 0 chance not to be picked up or make a play. He sucks he needs to be fired.
Lazor went full retard this game. He hasnt been good in any of the three games this year. The teams are already flowing to where we are going with the ball before we do, so they saw it coming pre-snap. He calls stupid stupid plays like WR sweep to the short side of the field which almos guarantees to lose yards with arunner who gets the ball 10 yards deep and has no room to get around the outside. Or he calls fade after fade when they arent working. Forget should work, they were not working, and to keep going for them was stupid when from the 2, rolling tanny out makes it hard for the defenders to defend all the possibilities including him running for 2 fuckign yards lol. Very fast athletic guy, 0 movement. Or the fact that consistently when we shifted the pocket, we nullified their pass rush and got good yards, then we go back to the shit that wasnt working. Fire him, i dont think he even will make a good QB coach, Tanny is wildly incosistent at best this year.
As for players, Suh cant do it all and right now, Wake is sucking. It may be that he is hurt, i actually very much agreed with one of the broadcaster when he said “Wake is a quick twitch DE and the hamstring injury has taken away his major weapon”. Message to Coyle, pull him, stop banging you head against a wall. Suh from games i have reviewed has been double, tripled, legs cut, etc. I know people expected more. I definitely did but between Coyle’s strategy and Wake not being a threat from the outside. Im not surprised by his lack of explosive plays. DL unit still isnt bad, they are just really poorly used. DE’s have been our biggest letdown, specifically Vernon and Wake. Fede has looked pretty decent while he is in there.
LB’s have been ok, but not great. Sheppard played his hear out this last game. Overall this unit hasnt been the big disappointment people think, and despite the running yeard, i think that smore on Coyle than the players. We are bringin the most vanilla shit out there its not hard to beat it.
CB’s, sepcifically McCain have been awful. Every third down. Third and short and third and long and third and extra long, they knew they had an ace in the hole. They could call whatever the fuck they wanted to on second down because it was almost a guarantee they could pick up the third an long on McCain. They kept going back to the well over and over and over and never once did Coyle play McCain closer, not once did he rotate the DB’s around and try to press the WR’s and time after time, completions for first downs.
OL looks bad, but they arent the only reasons QB is getting hit. Some of this is on Tanny too. Oh and dont put all of this on the OG’s, they had their share of failures but so did James and especially Fox. Pouncey was about the only dependable one out there. Tanny also HAS TO MOVE, the blitz by Rambo, Tanny was responsible for doing something there, he had no backfield blocker to pick it up and the OL was fully engaged. He needed to side step him. With how fast he was coming he would have missed Tanny and been fucking 20 yards behind him before he could have corrected himself but Tanny stood there like a statue and took the hit. He was in clear field of vision, so he should have been able to felt that one and made a move.
It was a shitastic game. So bad so towards the end i literally sat there in the most peaceful mode i have been in for a game all year. Completely ok with every cock up that happened afterwards. I gave up on this team yesterday. Im done, im over it and i admit i was wrong about the Phins. This is not their year, this is not the right coaching staff, and we do need wholesale changes to correct it. One last thing to tell you how bad i saw this game yesterday. At one point i remember they panned to Ryan on the sideline and he was looking at the playbook with one of his staff and he was laughing about something. I immediately knew i had seen that scene from somewhere. Then it hit me, Ryan was Red Beaulieu from “Waterboy”and he was laughing at the game plan Mr. Coach Kline’s was calling, pointing it out in a coaching for dummies book. Thats about how i felt about Ryan, pointing at our offensive game plan he already had a copy of and laughing at how ridiculous and predictable it was.
tanny got his 100 million. Why would he care if we go 2-14 or 14-2 if no one else in the organization cares.
jetssuck
I couldn’t watch that game again even if I had recorded it. SO what you’re saying is, teams have figured out how to neutralize our front 4. Well now, doesn’t it sound like it’s someone’s job to counter that? 3 games, and each OC has been able to completely and utterly eliminate our D-line.
They used 12 different schemmes throughout this game. 1st 2 series they didn’t rush the DE’s at the snap(delayed timing scheme)I guess to contain the QB. They had DT’s they used this same scheme. The Bills took advantage defensely by providing zone overload blizes where our young pups choose the wrong blitzers. Ryan is good at that.
Gootta take a nap u guys are making me tired
Worst scheme’s on both sides of the ball that I’ve ever seen in a ‘professional’ football game….bar none!
Coaches and players should all be embarrassed.
Ill admit some of it on the players. Boulder was right, McCain shouldnt be on the field…no where not nickle, not anywhere, but part of how bad the players look is on what shit the coaches are calling. One thing i really put on the players is only a handful actually look like they are going balls out every play, and that part is on them. No matter how shitty the calls there should be more passion/anger out there. They shoulld be fucking pissed that shit is making them look so bad,
One play stood out to me as the mentality of this entire team: A bubble screen by the Bills, we have a defender in place near the sideline, there is a wall of people to the defender’s left, the sideline to the right, the receiver is hemmed in by defenders closing in. The receiver is running right at our defender who is about 3 yds back. The receiver has nowhere to go except at our guy, So what does our defender do? He can’t be beat by a move, all he has to do is make the tackle. Does he attack the receiver? No he stands there and waits for the receiver to get to him, makes the tackle (after being dragged a yard or two). Good play? NO! Instead of no gain on the play, they pick up 4 yards.
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I saw that one too and was pretty po’ed. Im not sure if that was after my give up oint but its like they have been coached to contain, but i know EXACTLY the play you are referring to.
On the flip side of it, we also called pretty much the same play and the Bills were right there in place to put us down, again, like they knew what we were calling before we did. We lose yards on that same play.
Predictable, pussy ass football, 15 yar cushions, containment instead of aggressive tackling, vanilla playcalling….pure piles of shit and HS coaches could do better.
I wish we had fired philbin and hired rex like I wanted them to do. I bet rex would have a better defense than fucking coyle and philbin.
I’m sure Ryan would afterall he has his defensive units always in the top 10 defensively. Buffalo’s defense started with Winestat when he was defensive coordinator and they built through the draft.
That play upset me so much I rewound it, broke it down for my wife while paused, then stood right next to the TV and screamed at the player while replaying it, lol.
“So bad so towards the end i literally sat there in the most peaceful mode i have been in for a game all year.”
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LOL, I did the same thing. It’s called acceptance. Fuck this damn team. I’m not picking scores anymore.
(Kong picks up his ball and goes home….after he found it laying seven yards out the back of the endzone after yet another Tannehill fade pass that had a zero probability of completion.)
Well she’s 5 and she likes bears. That’s the logic she’s works with.