Hey Everyone! Great game vs the Bills right?
Am I right?!?!
Does your butt hurt yet?
If so than I’m right at home with you!
Here is a live photo of the game
The Bills gained 420 yards against the Dolphins
The Dolphins countered with 397 yards
Close game right?
Nope – Bills 33 Dolphins 17
of that 420 yards the Bills rans for 266 on the ground.
When McCoy was injured Karlos Williams took his place and ran for 2 TDs.
Both Williams and McCoy ran for 100 yards
Another Bill who had a big game was Sammy Watkins who had 8 catches for 168 yards
It turns out the Brent Grimes has his cleats specially fitted with banana peels for the game!
Watkins ate the Dolphins alive
Here is another photo of the end result
Ryan Tanenhill threw for over 300 yards.
Lamar Miller had 97 of those yards. He ran for 2 yards –
but he wasn’t very effective on the ground.
Landry caught 11 passes and actually threw one too.
They keep using Landry in various ways.
And Kenny Stills was involved too
But still poop on Sunday.
I hate the Bills
Finsmob Unleashed 
WOW, you guys go on and on….lol….there’s about 800 posts of debating a bad snap for a safety that I’ll never get back.
Try Pod says:
November 9, 2015 at 1:07 pm (Edit)
Wasn’t it just a week after being suspended for the season he was shown partying with some friends? Does he have no self-awareness?
I remember that. I think it was a pic of him having drinks with several people in Key West while the team was @ training camp. Something like that.
Here. I googled it.
http://nbatitlechase.com/blog/2015/08/22/dolphins-dion-jordan-drinking-teams-pre-season-game/
Yeah but Try was saying he doesn’t like being in Miami. Not sure how that confirms that. Irresponsible and unprofessional, yeah, but I don’t know if being in Miami is an issue.
Again, it is based on what I have seen/heard/surmised- I have no evidence. But since I am not a cop and this is not a court of law, I figured I was safe to say that. Apparently not- And yet with all the evidence to the contrary, you keep shoving Tanne down our throats as “not a problem”! lol
J/K- R-E-L-A-X…
Stanger,
It’s tough being a CB in this league but on that Sammy Watkins TD over the top where he was one on one with Watkins…there is little chance for any CB (all pro or not) to stop a perfect pass over the shoulder of Watkins running in full stride. What really pissed me off about that play was that Suh was near the QB before the release and it looked like he was being held by his jersey from the inside (you can see him trying to disengage the OL going away from the OL but he can’t, obvious holding situation). Tyrod then released his pass for a TD. On that same play, McCain stunted inside then rolled back outside so there was nobody on the left side of the line to put pressure on Tyrod. Suh came up the gut and Tyrod moved to his right and had a clear window downfield to pass.
It was a very bad hold i called it before he threw the ball it was hella blatant.
Agreed on that pass, but Watkins caught 8 passes on 8 targets for 168 yards. Yeah that’s according to my ESPN FF stats (went out of my way not to play him).Far as I could tell he got the shadow from Grimes most of the time in the game.
And great point on the rest of that play……but yeah holding happens and is not always called. Way it is.
Apparently everyone saw the hold. I was yelling about it also.
Here ya go Piggy.
Your score is: 6126 (GRADE: B+)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 13: Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida (A+)
Round 2 Pick 13: Jalen Mills, FS, LSU (B)
Round 3 Pick 13: Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson (A-)
Round 4 Pick 13: Tyler Matakevich, OLB, Temple (A)
Round 5 Pick 13: Le’Raven Clark, OT, Texas Tech (A)
Round 6 Pick 13: Dan Vitale, FB, Northwestern (A-)
Round 7 Pick 13: Kris Frost, OLB, Auburn (B-)
1st 3 picks are awesome
Vitale is a Clay like TE prospect for me. Frost is listed as OLB but he plays ILB and he is waaaaay better than that grade.
Here is a Piggy draft
Make no mistake about it
after round 3 I have no idea who any of these guys are
Your score is: 5574 (GRADE: B+)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 13: Myles Jack, OLB, UCLA (A+)
Round 2 Pick 18 (N.O.): Carl Lawson, DE/OLB, Auburn (B+)
Round 3 Pick 13: Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson (A-)
Round 3 Pick 18 (N.O.): Fabian Moreau, CB, UCLA (B-)
Round 4 Pick 13: Elijah Shumate, SS, Notre Dame (B)
Round 5 Pick 13: Halapoulivaati Vaitai, OT, TCU (B+)
Round 6 Pick 13: D.J. White, CB, Georgia Tech (B+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Braxton Deaver, TE, Duke (D+)
we’re picking in the top 10 this year.
first pick still has us listed at 13….will probably shift down by middle of this week
I can’t believe we have had so much discussion over the flipping safety. It was a bad snap but Tanny has WR skills. Pouncey F’d up and Tannehill F’d up. Not like it really mattered. It doesn’ matter when you give up 2 100 yard rushers to the same team. It doesn’t matter when you let the opposing QB only miss 1 pass. It doesn’t matter when the opposing QB is averaging 15 yards a pass. It doesn’t matter when 11 players and a fistful of coaches can’t figure out when they need a time out. It doesn’t matter when you are on the 1 and you line up with an empty backfield in the shot gun. It doesn’t matter when your oft injured 1st round WR is not on the field yet again due to injury. It just doesn’t matter because all the good looking girls are going to go out with the guys from camp Mohawk anyways.
LOL — sounds like the schematic outline for the next Hulk Angry piece.
I only argued it because it was being blamed solely on RT and not Pouncey when I think it was the other way around.
Everything else you said is right on.
It’s like arguing whether it was Tropic of Capricorn or Tropic of Cancer, either way, in the end you are going to have to pay the fine…..LOL
No one was placing it solely on Tanny, but i think the ultimate responsibility is on him because you cant make every snap be perfect. QB’s handle bad snaps all the time.
That a Henry Miller quote?
Translation of bookman’s comment”
“What’s my problem, punks like you, that’s my problem. And you better not screw up again TIm, because if you do, I’ll be all over you like a Pit Bull on a Poodle.”
our needs in the next draft are oline, more oline, CB, MLB, DE
D, I didn’t see anyone say it was a bad snap and everyone put it on RT. I’m going by what I read initially. He also catches bad snaps and makes it look easy on a regular basis but that one was too wild.
LOL @ Bookman
D, and sometimes QB’s miss those type of snaps eventually….even the best of them.
In that situation it looked like Tanny had about 25% chance of snagging it out of the air.
The whole play calling is very ill conceived on both sides of the ball with this team.
If Campbell is to stay, he needs a top OC & DC that can utilize the talent on the team properly and this goes beyond just scheme only and also includes ‘in game play calling’!
I think there’s a good chance we’re headed for a total restart. Either a czar type who brings in his people or a vet HC along with his preferred personnel guy.
That’s the smart thing to do. I bet Ross will keep tannenbaum and let him hire a HC. Round and round we go. We’ll go through the same shit again in 3 years.
Then id go with a OC/DC that comes from College. College OC/DC have to adjust yearly to what talent they have as they have so much attrition due to losing most the juniors and seniors to the draft.I know that kind of “unproven” guys scares the shit out of most here, but HC probably needs to be someone with NFL experience, but the OC/DC id like to be a guy from the college ranks.
Hue Jackson (previously mentioned) would be a good one.
Kyle Shanahan (this probably brigs out the boo birds but i like what he has done with the Falcons offense.
No one will want to hear this but Josh McDaniels and Matt Patricia both would make solid candidates.
Adam Gase wouldnt be bad. Wade Phillips. Sean McDermott
From college ranks, potential HC candidates:
David Shaw
Kevin Sumelin
Bob Stoops
Brian Kelly
Mark Richt
Les Miles
I would really like us to go after Will Muschamp for DC. His defenses are on the level of Rex Ryan, very dynamic, he mixes the defense up to and is good at throwing the offense off big time. He also has a really good eye for defensive talent. Id settle for Kirby Smart Alabama DC.
For OC i would like us to go after either Bill Legg from Marshall, Rhett Lashlee, Aubrun, or Mike Bobo former OC for Georgia, now head coach of Colorado State.
i like Josh McDaniels since he knows how the PATs operate.
Dion Lewis is gone for the season. Never want to wish on injury on someone, but the Pats had something in him.
BoulderPhinfan says:
November 9, 2015 at 2:52 pm
our needs in the next draft are oline, more oline, CB, MLB, DE
Reply
Agreed. We need to plan for replacing Albert @ LT, we need OG/OC depth or another starter there.
We have to prepare for replacing Grimes (age) & replacing Wake and possibly OV too.
We need to move on from Misi as a starter as well as Sheppard.
None of these mock drafts do anything about the OL
I can’t help but to think about the old Dallas model of just getting defenders and getting skill position players on offense….Romo for all these years never did much but get 1 and done in the playoffs if that until the team got serious about fixing OL.
Tim,
I still hope Campbell can win the permanent job. But he’s also handcuffed with second rate Coordinators right now. That really has a big effect on how this team plays in games.
So we bring in someone else’s fired HC who had top tier QB’s???
Mike Smith, Sean Payton, John Harbaugh??? Why aren’t they getting it done there? Must be that whole it takes complete team thingy that several here don’t seem to get. 😉
I doubt campbell will be the HC going forward. He’s over his head. I think he already looks like he’s ready to go back to being a position coach. too much headache.
I can’t call his coordinators second rate and raise him to a higher level, I don’t think that’s fair.
I’m back to it being on the players, they’re the ones who play like this all the time. Something isn’t right with the makeup of this team.
We’ve had a huge python problem in south florida as the invasive species is feeding off of the local wildlife to the point of endangering it. Seems at some of the local guys are defending their turf though.
The problem is the gators are being eaten too by the snakes.
we have enough alligators…Last I heard was over a million but they eat each other.
Stanger,
About Lewis….:) LOL
they’ll just plug in the next hack and make him a probowler. Who was Lewis before he started playing with brady.
after we waive Jonas Gray, he will rush for 1000 yards in 6 games for them…lol
Don’t laugh about that……say nice things and think about what it means. 🙂
I got it Bookman- “Tropic of Cancer” was the name of the book Seinfeld never turned in and thus owed late fees on, which Mr. Bookman is after Jerry to collect.
D says:
November 9, 2015 at 2:52 pm (Edit)
That a Henry Miller quote?
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No, it was Bill Murray from Meetballs
Personally, I think that if James is healthy and Albert can stay healthy that we already have the players on the roster to field an adequate OL. Stop asking them to pass protect 40 times a game. I don’t think OL is a high priority unless they feel like Albert isn’t going to be here much longer. I doubt we draft an OL in the 1st or 2nd rounds. We need LBers, safeties and DEs. Grab an OL in the 3rd or 4th round. I think James, Turner and Thomas will all be better next year, as well. We still have a pretty young OL. It takes time.
But we have no depth at all for LT and Albert has yet to play a full season for us.
I say go for a LT very early in the draft if it presents itself, then yes, we can wait on any other OL spots till later in draft if at all.
if we can get Albert to play his college position I would be all 4 it. He got no offer from KC because they wanted him play his college position
I agree on the OL moving forward. It does take time. I just wish we could get on a roll with 5 guys instead of having to shuffle due to injuries. That said most teams go through that during a season.
Tim, I hear ya on the reply above, but Coyle & Lazor were 2nd rate before Dan got trust into the HC position.
I like Campbell, think he has that leadership & player connect quality that Philbin was missing.
Now only if he could get 2 Coordinators like that, who also have a very good command on play calling as well.
D says:
November 9, 2015 at 3:33 pm
Then id go with a OC/DC that comes from College. College OC/DC have to adjust yearly to what talent they have as they have so much attrition due to losing most the juniors and seniors to the draft.I know that kind of “unproven” guys scares the shit out of most here, but HC probably needs to be someone with NFL experience, but the OC/DC id like to be a guy from the college ranks.
Hue Jackson (previously mentioned) would be a good one.
Kyle Shanahan (this probably brigs out the boo birds but i like what he has done with the Falcons offense.
No one will want to hear this but Josh McDaniels and Matt Patricia both would make solid candidates.
Adam Gase wouldnt be bad. Wade Phillips. Sean McDermott
From college ranks, potential HC candidates:
David Shaw
Kevin Sumelin
Bob Stoops
Brian Kelly
Mark Richt
Les Miles
I would really like us to go after Will Muschamp for DC. His defenses are on the level of Rex Ryan, very dynamic, he mixes the defense up to and is good at throwing the offense off big time. He also has a really good eye for defensive talent. Id settle for Kirby Smart Alabama DC.
For OC i would like us to go after either Bill Legg from Marshall, Rhett Lashlee, Aubrun, or Mike Bobo former OC for Georgia, now head coach of Colorado State.
Was in reply to your post above GD.
D says:
November 9, 2015 at 10:19 am
First let me offer an apology to FFR.
D,
even though i appreciate the thought it is not necessary. I was having fun with it yesterday when you said i was lapping at tanny’s nuts. i assume you read my follow up post. i think it should be a given that during game time and the few hours after that it is a free for all here with things said to each other and no apologizes are necessary afterwards. most of us are just reacting on emotion and angry emotions at that. besides this is just a blog about a stupid football team, if someone gets the feelings hurt over this they need to have their head checked.
my weakness personally is comments on my ability as a father not my opinion about a lousy football team or a player on the team. that is the only thing i take personal pride in and hope i did a good job of raising my kids into young adults. outside of that, you arent going to offend me.
getterdone
Albert’s health is probably a concern, but teams rarely draft high end LTs until they have to because they’re expected to play right away. It’s tough to justify a fist round pick on a LT when you already have a starter on your roster. Albert isn’t old, so if he can get his health squared away, he could be starting for us for years, and he’s a good LT. I just don’t see them drafting a LT early unless they plan on getting rid of Albert somehow.
we need oline help and who’s to say that this oline will be sufficient if we get a ground and pound type coach? These guys are here because they were good at zone blocking.
Not many ground and pound teams around and the ZBS doesn’t mean finesse. Running out of shotgun 90% of the time is issue. The 90s Broncos teams with TD etc. ran the ZBS and SEA now with Lynch run a ZBS.
Not sure what the market will look like for coaching position however I’m still keen on someone like Auburn’s Gus Malzahn for this new offensive happy NFL.
Unlike any of the options the fins have tried at OC or HC; they haven’t written a book about what we have been waiting to see around here with Lazor 🙂
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/261890481187?ul_noapp=true&chn=ps&lpid=82
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Another option that might just fall into the Fins lap is Sean Payton LOL. However, this being too logical for a franchise like Miami, can’t imagine it happening.
If Malzahn bolts for the pros, there’s a 50/50 chance Rhett Lashlee comes with him unless he’s interested in taking over at Auburn :). Malzhan has a unique relationship with his OC Lashlee where Malzahn actually calls the plays but he listens often to input from Lashlee.
Did you see my list above?
It just doesn’t matter because all the good looking girls are going to go out with the guys from camp Mohawk anyways.
ken,
not totally true. you mean all the good looking and fast girls. the good looking and slow ones still get chained to my sofa
getterdone says:
November 9, 2015 at 3:28 pm
But we have no depth at all for LT and Albert has yet to play a full season for us.
I say go for a LT very early in the draft if it presents itself, then yes, we can wait on any other OL spots till later in draft if at all.
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Good thing is, from way it looks, OT is a fairly deep position in next years draft. OG isnt as deep. Id be tempted, if it came to it, to select Vadal Alexander over most other OT prospects, not named Laremy Tunsil, including LSU’s LT Prospect Jerald Hawkins. We would have a guy who is good enough at OT to be a starting LT in the NFL or a real stud OG, just depending where our strongest need is.
Al in MIA says:
November 9, 2015 at 3:36 pm
Not sure what the market will look like for coaching position however I’m still keen on someone like Auburn’s Gus Malzahn for this new offensive happy NFL.
Unlike any of the options the fins have tried at OC or HC; they haven’t written a book about what we have been waiting to see around here with Lazor 🙂
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/261890481187?ul_noapp=true&chn=ps&lpid=82
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Another option that might just fall into the Fins lap is Sean Payton LOL. However, this being too logical for a franchise like Miami, can’t imagine it happening.
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If we got Malzahn maybe he would bring Lashlee and Muschamp with him. That could be a pretty solid trio of coaches. I do think Malzahn has the ability to lead men, and would make a solid HC im just not sure if he has any aspirations to coach in the NFL.
Agree but Malzahn calls all the plays despite whatever title Lashlee has.
Agree on Mazahn though. Despite change in talent level, he usually can bring his team to make an upset or two in big games each season. He usually comes up with a good game plan for big games.
Boulder,
I agree that we need OL help, but I’m not so sure it’s at starting positions. Could we use another guard? Maybe. Also, this stuff about zone versus man scheme is a red herring. Good OL can do both…and most teams use both concepts thru the year…so guys already have to do both. Also, the NFL isn’t ground and pound anymore. Passing is king, and it doesn’t look like that’s gonna change. You don’t find pure road graders all that often anymore. OL are getting smaller and quicker. Mobility and quickness are what teams want now…not big strong guys who can’t move.
I just think with the amount of injuries we always have at tackle and how tanny plays when his tackles are injured we need more than 2 starting caliber tackles.
Most NFL OL’s have been together years, working together. NOT us.
Samson Satele
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Grove and Smiley 1 year later
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Bully gate we lose starting guard (pro bowler) and first rounder OT
Our starting guard starts as center
Depth at OT this coming year if all the top talent turn out for the draft is deep enough to get 1st round talent deep into the second. As for OG there is maybe one real stand out and then a bunch of good but not guaranteed studs. A bunch of guys you are going to question if they were worth a 2nd round grade, most of them cluster around probably third round talent. Vadal with a trade back might be best bang for the buck for us, but if Tunsil, Nkemdiche, Hargreaves, Jalen Ramsey, or maybe even Treadwell (yes a WR) fell to us i dont know if i wouldnt pick one of them instead.
the rb from alabama is ranked as 2nd round pick. I’d love to pick him up with 2nd rounder while addresing the OL with 1st as in a tackle
D, yes that’s a lot of names there. Shockingly I too have mentioned getting Josh McDaniel here as a possible HC, he kinda got hamstrung in Denver with the Jay Cutler crap, then the video tapping scandal, & when Elway took over.
He’s what 39 like Campbell, but more experience. The only thing is will he bring the good or the bad of what he’s learned from Belicheat….lol
And being a douche bag and lobbying to draft Tebow. LOL
The guy can outright coach up players. Look at what he did with OL against Us. He had a whole new OL in positions they didn’t play plus 3 players with less than 6 games NFL experience.
If I’m drafting for us, I go after the best edge rusher I can get. Then, I take the best lb or safety. Then, I take either lb or safety…whichever I didn’t take with my second pick. of course, it all depends on who goes where and strength of position. We seriously need better lb and safety play…outside of Jones. Remember when I told you all we should draft Jones? Ah, good times. Lol
What’s that going to do for you vs NE when the refs let the OL hold all game?
One of the main reasons I wanted ex Chiefs GM Scott Pioli (took a job with Falcons) is that for all his short comings, finding OL talent was not one of them. It was actually his strong suit going back to NE and in KC. Hopefully the current group can get it done within 2 years :(.
The problem for Hickey was in his first season he was handed Pouncey, Thomas, Garner and Brenner on the OL. That’s it.
Al,
As my old coach in high school used to say; don’t get held…because ALL OL do it.
Tim Knight says:
November 9, 2015 at 3:59 pm
And being a douche bag and lobbying to draft Tebow. LOL
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LMFAO…at least they drafted WR Demaryius Thomas first in that draft year.
They also hit on Erick Decker that draft.
Randy,
That’s why I like high motor players who can attack with different moves no matter how raw they appear.
Za’Darius Smith who Ravens landed in the 4th RD last draft is a guy I wanted who fits that kind of mold. There are guys like that every year who people dismiss based on 40 times or height.
Boulder,
Well, yeah, every team would love to have multiple starting caliber tackles on their roster, but that’s simply not the way the NFL works. Backups are backups for a reason. That said, I’m certainly not opposed to drafting some new blood on the OL.
I think unless we have a real rushing attack this offense won’t go anywhere with tanny. And you need oline to run the ball. Just ask the cowboys. They didn’t get anywhere until they fixed the oline and gave romo a rushing attack.
our problems this year are the same as last. We can’t run the ball or stop the run. Job well done FO.
R. Jones also had a learning curve early on in his career. He’s in his 6th season now. There have been years where fans thought he sucked and wanted to replace him. LOL
easier said than done. LOL
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly 3h3 hours ago
Problems that need to be fixed: 1. STOP opponents from running. 2. Find a replacement for Jason Fox 3. Get Tannehill a new 3rd down target
lmfao. Might as well sign Tebow and have him lead the team onto the field. It’s about as comical as what we are watching these days during games 😦
i agree with all of you guys. they should draft first the following
OL, DL, DB, QB, RB, LB
just take your pick, they cant go wrong with any position.
The eagles are gonna rush 300 yards on us this weekend.
I have a headache thinking about it.
Chip Kelly today…
“Mmmmm, going to hit em with Murray, Mathews, and Sproles on various drives and really mess them up”
LOL. I was watching their offense and I get tired watching how fast they line up. I’m glad I’m not trying to defend it.
Yeah Lazor came here saying how we’d be so fast & up tempo….hmmm.
Did he ever say that or was it speculated?
he said it more than once. He was bringing the chip kelly tempo. What a load of crap.
Boulder, I’m just saying I don’t remember ever hearing Lazor say that. I read a lot about it from others based on what Chip Kelly does.
I’m pretty sure that he said fast tempo at his hiring news conference.
Boulder,
Yeah but how’s that Cowboys team doing the season? People were overrating their OL last year, and they aren’t getting any pub this season. Seattle’s OL has been just as bad as ours for years, but they make it to the SB. I hate to say it, but in today’s NFL, it all comes back to your QB. That position makes or breaks you. That’s the way the NFL wants it.
Well as I said we better figure out how to win with tanny and the only way I see that happening is if we rush the ball 25 – 30 times a game and only put him in a 3rd and 5 maximum.
And we better play lights out defense.
The OL wasn’t the problem yesterday. Our defense gave up too many big plays. I felt it would be a 20-17 type of game because our offense struggles against that defense. But our defense didn’t hold up their end of the bargain and got gashed for 266 on the ground.
yes the defense was the main problem yesterday but 3 plays that changed the game on offense.
The first was the safety which was both oline and tanny. Get in I formation and run the ball there.
The 2nd was 1st and goal from 1 yard line with 2 seconds left. Get in I formation and the run the ball there instead of a bullshit incomplete pass to TE.
The 3rd was the tanny sack fumble that was on fox. It was 14-19 and we had the momentum. that play changed the game.
I believe Philbin started saying how we need an up tempo offense….not Lazor. Lazor may have talked about it too, but Philbin was talking about it before Lazor got here. I could be wrong.
Andrew Abramson ✔ @AbramsonPBP
Campbell on passing from the one-yard line: “At the end of the day he was open. It was a good throw. You just got to make the play.”
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It would have made the game 14-19 and we go into the locker room with momentum.
But regardless, the telling stat on the day is not stopping the run to the tune of 266 YARDS!!!
Even when we knew they’d be running with a lead and since they’re a run oriented team.
Old fashion real physical football beats trickery & fancy finesse football once again!
Tim,
I think Reshad only had one off year, and it was when he was asked to cover constantly. Even that year, his statistics weren’t terrible. But, I do remember folks saying he sucked, and we shouldn’t have resigned him. That stuff happens with fans all the time. Remember how Turner was getting hyped around here before this season? Now, nobody talks about him because he isn’t tearing it up. Fans are fickle. Lol
Turner is starting.
getterdone
Even though I hated the play call from the 1 yard line, it was the horrible clock management that was the real issue at that point in the game. We should have never been in that position to begin with. That’s what left me shaking my head. Throwing it from the 1 yard line was just the icing on a shit cake.
Execute the play and score the TD and nobody cares about the clock management.
Al in MIA says:
November 9, 2015 at 4:10 pm
Za’Darius Smith who Ravens landed in the 4th RD last draft is a guy I wanted who fits that kind of mold. There are guys like that every year who people dismiss based on 40 times or height.
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Yeah when everyone was making such a big deal about Bud Dupree, but when i was atching them play UF, Za’Darius was every bit as good.
Nice Job Mr Ross.
“In some ways, the gap between the Dolphins and Patriots appears as wide or wider than any time since Miami’s 1-15 season in 2007. What’s more, the gap between the Dolphins and the middling Buffalo Bills also appears sizable; the Bills have outscored the Dolphins 74-31 in two blowouts.”
LOL so it beings
“Suh said the Bills “took the interior guys out, even sometimes our ends. We have to find ways to combat that.” He mentioned “great coaches” as a part of solving that problem, but didn’t elaborate.”
M,
Yes, Turner is starting….and struggling. People just expected him to step into the LG position and run with it…or even play at LT. Now, nobody talks about him because he’s barely holding the starting RG position. That’s just the way it works with fans.
I wouldn’t say Turner is struggling. He has done an excellent job as a run blocker. He needs to improve as a pass blocker but he showed he can play at this level.
Tim,
I’d still care about the terrible clock management. It matters.
I think part of the problem was the team wasn’t hustling back to the line more so than the clock. This team does plenty to annoy us. LOL
Unreal!
http://nypost.com/2015/11/09/johnny-manziel-returns-to-college-parties-with-co-eds/
Ken,
I agree. Turner can play at this level…at guard, and he is struggling because pass pro is part of the evaluation. Especially on a team that runs it 20 times a game.
It’s not so much how many times we run but it is the design of the runs we do. We don’t do a lot to help out the OL in run blocking. We are usually running out of the shot gun without a FB and a quality blocking in line TE. Even our short yardage run game is usually out of the shot gun. We don’t have to run it as much as the Bills or Jets want to. We have a QB that can throw but we can run perhaps a little bit more but most importantly we can run more efficiently.
If our defense didn’t get totally out coached then our offense would have more opportunities and more options to win the game.
I was proud of how we kept running the ball even when we were down 12 points. Stick to that mentality and the wins will come once we figure out why the Defense is so horrid, especially against the RUN!
Our O really didn’t play all that bad yesterday. We had 3 drives of 80+ yards. We did have the horrible decision at the end of the half that cost us points. Also the first play/safety put us in a hole but we move the ball on a really good D. If we played any D in that game it was one we could have won. Hard to score points when the D can’t get off the field on 3rd down.
I don’t know about the defense being outcoached. I think outplayed is more like it. The Bills didn’t do anything crazy, they made runs, broke tackles and took it to the house.
The clock management problem is really on Campbell. Yes Tannehill should have used the TO but it’s on Campbell to take charge of that situation and yes Tim is right that the players should have shown more urgency. But it is still a problem that starts with coaching.
Tim:
If I were Johnny Manziel and I had a chance to hang out with hot college co-eds well I know I would do.
I was pointing out he lacks QB leadership skills. He should have been in the building working on his game.
His GF is a hot coed….doesnt need to look too far for that. He’s reckless though considering his career is teetering on the edge. Just think, without football he is just Johnny Pimpleface. Not a lot of hot coeds lined up to be with that guy.
Josh McDaniels as a HC option in Miami? PASS.
Two biggest negatives on his resume ->
Tied with the 1978 Skins coach for only team to not have a winning season after starting 6-0 (2009 Broncos?).
Then he had a stint with the 2011 Rams as OC where they were the NFL’s worst offense averaging 12 ppg.
Yes, it’s not always on the coaches when things are bad but clearly he did nothing to show where coaching could make a difference under adverse situations.
His only bright spot is coaching under Brady which leads me to believe its the player not the coach driving that success :).
Randy,
We can talk about the Seahawks OL all day but the if the Fins D mirrored that Seahawks D, this Fins offense would find ways to win more games for sure.
I mean, how in the hell does a team overcome 5 offensive turnovers and win a trip to the SB? This Miami team would have found themselves in the playoffs if one side of the ball was elite.
Tim,
Same thing in the Patriots game…
Gronk’s 1st TD was a slant route underneath for 5-7 yards…nobody touched him at the line and the MLB was asleep not reacting to the cut.
We have a MLB? I wasn’t sure because I never see one make a play for us.
I would not want Josh McDaniels as our next HC. Nor do I want Mike Smith as our next HC. I do like Al’s suggestion of Malzhann. I am also high on Hue Jackson and intrigued by Doug Marrone.
GDP,
There were many similarities to the Patriots game on Sunday vs the Bills and that is that the defense did enough to hold the game just a tad to allow the offense to get ready again to cut the game to 1 possesion. Like the Patriots game, offense kept shooting itself in the foot and eventually the D blew a gasket.
I think the D played much worse in Buffalo as opposed to the Pats game. The D gave up too many big plays early and often. In NE there was one big play early and then the D settled down for a while. In Buffalo the D imploded early and never settled down and they did it against an inferior opponent. It’s one thing to let Tom Brady carve you up and another to let Tyrod Taylor do it.
Taylor was basically one throw. We allowed 3 huge runs.
Tim,
Lmfao at Manziel partying again…
Maybe that’s because he knows McCown’s shoulder will be healthy enough to start next game relegating Johnny to clip board duties 🙂
Tim Knight says:
November 9, 2015 at 5:18 pm (Edit)
I was pointing out he lacks QB leadership skills. He should have been in the building working on his game.
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His career is going nowhere. Go hang out with the hot chicks while he can because in a couple of years he will be a nobody.
Rex Ryan has made the LB who broke Geno Smith’s jaw a captain for their game this week. LOL
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Wish the Fins could draft a good OT let alone draft a good one with two established starters 😦
Tim Knight says:
November 9, 2015 at 5:22 pm (Edit)
Taylor was basically one throw. We allowed 3 huge runs.
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While I agree our run D was horrible don’t undersell how bad our pass D was. It was not 1 throw. Taylor was 11 of 12 for 189. He hit two huge bombs to Watkins. He killed us on several 3rd and longs. We were carved up.
I won’t argue with that.
Tim,
LMFAO at Ryan’s trolling attempt with his LB being captain this week…
Last time Ryan tried trolling someone it ended up with (as the top comment says) a foot up his ass…LOL
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Alright. Got hit the road. I am out. Peace.
Regarding one of McCoy’s runs…the big 48 yard one….The two biggest failures there happened with Jelani Jenkins (overplayed the sweep) and the FS who basically sat there while McCoy blew it by him.
Shelby also rushed too high and was out of position.
@ Phiily, Dallas, & @ Jets next 3 games.
That will conclude a stretch of 6 out of 8 games on the road, including London.
Manziel is destined to follow the career path of Tribble Reese LMFAO.
Could land a gig on CMT’s “Sweet Home Alabama” (Country Music Television’s version of ABC’s “The Bachelor”).
Al,
I was just saying that you can win with a subpar OL, but you gotta have the other parts of your team be pretty strong to compensate…and a QB that can mask some of those OL flaws….not magnify them.
Agree!
Al, then Marrone got revenge by Jax stuffing a loss up Rex’s ass.
Exactly LOL
btw,
One of the biggest fools yesterday was that Skins rookie defender who didn’t bother laying out Brady off the INT. Man o Man…his teammates must be giving him shit after film session. LOL. People probably going “cmon man, when they give you the free hit you gotta take the QB out”.
Flying back to Miami after the disappointing loss at Buffalo didn’t dampen the optimism that Interim Head Coach Dan Campbell showed after the game Sunday.
“We just lost two in a row; we won two in a row before that,” Campbell said. “All we have to do is get the momentum back. It starts in Philly. We have to go out there, we have to get a win and take it one at a time and just start building some momentum. I’m optimistic. This isn’t going to break me or this team.”
As Campbell mentioned, it starts next Sunday at Philadelphia against the Eagles.
“I think it’s doable,” Campbell said. “The most important thing is that we stay positive. Because it is. We’ve got eight games left. These guys need to know that when we do it right, we’re good. And we can play with anybody in the league when we do it right. When we don’t do it right, obviously, I don’t think we’re unlike any other team. Then it’s not very good. It’s not good enough.
“Look, I’m optimistic. My staff is. And I think we have enough players that are optimistic and understand that we have the chips. We just gotta put it all together. We gotta cut out the penalties. I mean, those things are killing us. Our starting position for the offense out of some of those special teams plays, those things hurt. We do that, we’ll be fine.”
In large part because of special teams penalties, the Dolphins started their first-half drives against the Bills at their own 6, 18, 15, 7 and 13-yard lines.
STANDING HIS GROUND
Campbell defended his decision to accept a holding penalty after an incompletion on third-and-4 from the Dolphins 34-yard line in the third quarter after he was second-guessed because Buffalo scored on a 44-yard touchdown pass after the down was replayed.
Declining the penalty would have given Buffalo the opportunity to have former Dolphins kicker Dan Carpenter attempt a 52-yard field goal with the wind at his back. On the flip side, Buffalo came into the game having converted only 3 of 25 third downs where it needed more than 10 yards.
“When you go back and look at it, I mean, of course, when they throw a (44-yard) bomb for a touchdown, you’re going to be like, my gosh, I wish I wouldn’t have done that,” Campbell said. “But the percentages say that you don’t do that, that you do back them up. The wind is behind his back. It’d be a 52-yard kick. That’s a little long, but that’s in his range. He’s already hit two this year from that range. They’re not very good on third down, especially third-and-10-plus.
“It’s easy to second-guess, but I don’t think I second-guess that one. That’s one, to me, I figure at the worst you’re going to make them dump it down and then, what, he gets a 5-yard gain or something, now it’s a 56-yard kick, (and) now they’re going to punt. They’re not going to kick it anymore. You’re just trying to get them out of range.”
Im a fan of taking the down most the time and not the yardage, but in the case that it might have moved them out of FG attempt range, it wasnt a stupid decision, its the most common decision that would have been made there.
So who here would rather us just lose out the rest of the season to secure a good pick in the draft?
Im never a fan of that i like to see my team fight and scratch and claw for whatever they get, but given our schedule through the rest of the year i could see us finishing at 8-8 or 7-9 and pretty much putting us in the dreaded 12-15th spot range of the draft.
Never lose out on purpose….that’s what makes for a Bad Culture.
Who knows, we could win out with 8 straight win or go 7-1…..I know, LOL. But you don’t stop trying. You’re getting paid to lay it all out on the line every week no matter what!
Teams that draft from the 20th spot on up do ok and can still find some talent.
I think we should get some young guys out on the field, play our best and let the chips fall as they may. I wouldnt lose on purpose but i might make more opportunity for development than i previously would have were i in a tight race.
I think its time to start looking at players. Lippett, come on up. Bo. McCain a little more time for you buddy. Ajayai, more snaps. Bring up Ced and let him get in the mix.
Yes you phase in the young guys a little at a time here and there, but not a wholesale change from jump street cause you might be mathematically eliminated soon.
I dont think in the case of Bo McCain or Lippett we are sacrificing much. Taylor has been horrible. Ajayai really should open things up for miller, wouldnt be bad to see them in the backfield together on a couple plays or Miller in the slot with Ajayai in the backfield. Ced is the biggest stretch but probably wouldnt be much worse than Aikens who im really disappointed in this season.
Can’t say I disagree there.
Ndamukong Suh: ‘I’m going to slam the f*** out of him next time’
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Im an eternal optimist for out team but im also a realist by nature. Dont want to sound pessimistic, but realistically we are pretty much eliminated.
We have a remaining schedule that probably has us going 4-4, just comparing how well we have play to how well those teams have been playing. We end up 7-9.
Bills have about the same strength of schedule for remaining games, so lets say they too go 4-4, they finish 8-8
Jets will probably fair a little better, their schedule is easier for rest of the season so 5-3, ending up 10-6
New England may lose one of their remaining, possibly 2 since the Giants always seem to have their number so 14-2.
Last in our own division pretty much eliminates us no matter what the rest of the AFC does. That doesnt take into account teams like Oakland who has been playing pretty well and has a 1 game advantage over us currently, Colts who are playing like shit but also have a game advantage over us and are in the weakest division in the AFC, and Steelers who are in a weaker division overall and have a 2 game advantage over us.
I hold out a little hope we can flip a few of those questionable games over but since we only approves a little over how we played the Bills, i dont know how we look vs a better overall team in the Jets, the Pats again, and against the Giants who are playing pretty decent football. That leaves us with a potential to flip the one ? game left which is Philly and that counting a certainty of beating Dallas which by time we play them might have all their players back and no longer be a certainty.
Sad part is even if we can manage 8-8, we still get eliminated because Bills hold the tiebreaker with us, so i think only chance we have is probably going 6-2, or more likely 7-1, and i think thats just too much to expect from this team with an interim coach and so many holes in our team on both sides of the ball.
If we go 6-2 then Campbell deserves to remain HC as long as we bring in a new DC & possibly a new OC too.
With the off season Campbell will know who he trusts, who he can get to come here.
That or we’ll see a rebuild….UGH! 😦
still drinking the kool-aid 🙂 2-6 is the more likely scenario.
if we go 8-8 I’ll do back flips playoffs or not.
I also like the Bills current OC as a HC candidate for us. His san fran offense is the type of offense that tanny would excel in. Seattle offense is another one.
^greg roman
D says:
November 9, 2015 at 6:05 pm
I dont think in the case of Bo McCain or Lippett we are sacrificing much. Taylor has been horrible. Ajayai really should open things up for miller, wouldnt be bad to see them in the backfield together on a couple plays or Miller in the slot with Ajayai in the backfield.
lol, it is so funny when you guys think the simple solution is a possibility. you all know lazor will have to come up with the most complicated gimmick play to get 1 yard instead of lining up and running the football
Boulder, yep, call me a kool aid drinker. I’m just pointing to a positive possibility, but yeah, we’ll likely go 3-5 the rest of the way if that makes me fall in line with the rest of you chicken littles….lol
D, never a fan of losing on purpose. It goes against sportsmanship and sets a bad mentality. You also don’t know that you get a great draft pick because guys at the top bust out too.
Roman is a guy I’ve mentioned before too. He’s an up n coming coach but not sure he’s ready for a HC position right now. He does seem to be a better play caller by far over Lazor.
getterdone says:
November 9, 2015 at 5:49 pm
STANDING HIS GROUND
that is why he is just an interim head coach.
“It’s easy to second-guess, but I don’t think I second-guess that one. That’s one, to me, I figure at the worst you’re going to make them dump it down and then, what, he gets a 5-yard gain or something,”
doesnt he watch his d on 3rd and long. even if they dumped it down they would have picked up 15 yards or so if not the first. they are a horrible 3rd and long def.
You guys want another first time HC? I think we should look at a guy who’s been a HC and has had success but isn’t too old or burnt out.
Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
Some of you wouldn’t know talent even if it was sleeping in bed next to you.
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….as he’s looking in the bathroom mirror reciting this 7x daily.
What an arrogant prick.
BoulderPhinfan says:
November 9, 2015 at 6:47 pm
still drinking the kool-aid 🙂 2-6 is the more likely scenario.
lol, thinking this team can win 1 game on the rest of the schedule they have to be drinking way more then kool-aid. hell, have to be drinking something even the 70’s wouldnt touch. who are they better then on the remaining schedule. SD? they play out there, they are a horrible west coast team. who is left anyone thinks they are better then?
Miami beats itself every week….that’s consistency right there.
Eagles placed ILB Jordan Hicks on injured reserve with a torn pectoral muscle, ending his season.
It’s a very tough break for Hicks, who was initially believed to have only strained his pec. A full tear of the muscle will end his promising rookie year. The 84th overall pick in May’s draft out of Texas, Hicks was a much-criticized draft choice but was performing at an extremely high level in place of Kiko Alonso. Hicks has a bright future in the league provided he can stay healthy.
D says:
November 9, 2015 at 5:50 pm (Edit)
So who here would rather us just lose out the rest of the season to secure a good pick in the draft?
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I don’t think it makes much of a difference either way, unless the right people are in charge next season, and the right head coach is here. It hasn’t mattered where we pick, we’ve had hits and misses in all different spots. The future is not very bright here, until we get the right people in charge, and when that happens, picking top 5 or top 20 won’t matter all that much. I’m not 100% sold on anyone holding a position in this franchise, meaning Mike Tannenbaum, Dennis Hickey, or any of the coaches, and maybe a handful and a half of players.
no way Ross cleans house. Tannenbaum and most probably hickey will still be here.
Can’t say for sure. You’re probably right about Mike and Dennis, but you never what coach they hire might want to head personnel himself, right?
tim,
I said add it to the list. Its hard to get a coach with experience when you have hickey and tannenbaum which I think is going to be the setup. Ross is not gonna clean house.
I think with this setup a 1st time HC might be the best we can do.
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LOL, oh well.
Sorta surprised today.
“Nobody is wasting nobody. That… is a miracle. And miracles is the way things ought to be.”
Mike,
Most coaches want to have a say who the personal person is they have to work with. That’s why we lost on some because of Ireland. This is a nightmare merry go round Ross has put us in.