The Ravens came to South Florida on Sunday in a battle of two teams that played the 2015 football season like poop.
The Dolphins would win!
Allright Miami!!!
The first score of the day would come on a Parker leaping catch. Look at that air. Parker started at caught 3 passes for 63 yards.
The Dolphins actually only had 86 yards passing. So there wash;t much of an ariel attack with the exception of this game.
That’s why I am going to give you a second look at the catch.
Here is a pig’s interpretation of the catch
Most of the offense on the day was provided by Lamar Miller who rushed for 113 yards on 20 carries.
Yes 20 carries! That isn’t a typo.
The Dolphins planned to finally have some balance after firing Lazor…but they may have pushed a little too far in the other direction since the only offense on the day was on the ground.
Ryan Tannehill completed 9 of 19 passes for 86 yards. This is the 4th week in a row in which Tannehill failed to throw complete 60%. Given the nature of this offense – that’s a pretty awful stat.
But the defense had a strong game. Two of our defensive ends stood out. Olivier Vernon and Derrick Shelby. Vernon had 2.5 sacks on the day.
Shelby was also hitting Schaub hard all day and he scored the Dolphins only other TD on tip and interception return. It was a terrific play by Shelby.
And when we talk about defense – you can’t leave out Reshad Jones. Jones had 10 tackles and an interception. His interception set up the Parker touchdown.
If Jones doesn’t make the pro bowl this year, the pro bowl should be thrown in a dumpster…
With the win the Dolphins collect their 5th win of the year. And that probably takes them out of the top 5 of the draft. So say goodbye to a top 5 pick.
Finsmob Unleashed 
I don’t know where NCST QB Jacoby Brissett will end up being evaluated as a NFL QB but this guy has spectacular touch on some of his throws.
We needed a QB badly in 2012 after 17 bad horrible QB’s since Marino.
Tanny was drafted in the 1st, something we haven’t done since Marino.
Since and including that 2012 draft thru the 2015 draft, Tanny seems to be right up there as a very solid choice with promise if you look around and think about it objectively.
I’ve always maintained. Keep adding to the building blocks of the making of a great team around your invested QB.
Building blocks that could block would help too. 😉
Honestly this was exactly my thinking until this year. I still hold out hope it’s just a bad year and he can turn it around next year. But 15 years of futility and the QB carousel we’ve dealt with has left me with little faith.
Kong’s list of top 5 prospects: (These 5 players are going to be stars!)
1 Joey Bosa DE 1 Ohio State Jr 6-5 275 1
2 Paxton Lynch QB 1 Memphis rJr 6-6 230 1
3 Jalen Ramsey CB 1 Florida State Jr 6-1 202 1
4 Robert Nkemdiche DT 1 Ole Miss Jr 6-3 296 1
5 Jared Goff QB 2 California Jr 6-4 210 1
6 Laremy Tunsil OT 1 Ole Miss Jr 6-5 305 1
7 Myles JackInjured OLB 1 UCLA Jr 6-1 245 1
8 Jaylon Smith OLB 2 Notre Dame Jr 6-3 240 1
9 Laquon Treadwell WR 1 Ole Miss Jr 6-2 210 1
10 Vernon Hargreaves III CB 2 Florida Jr 5-11 199 1
11 Ronnie Stanley OT 2 Notre Dame rJr 6-6 315 1
12 DeForest Buckner DE 2 Oregon Sr 6-7 290 1
13 Taylor Decker OT 3 Ohio State Sr 6-7 315 1
14 A’Shawn Robinson DT 2 Alabama Jr 6-3 312 1
15 Mackensie Alexander CB 3 Clemson rSo 5-10 195 1
16 Ezekiel Elliott RB 1 Ohio State Jr 6-0 225 1
17 Andrew Billings DT 3 Baylor Jr 6-1 310 1
18 Kenny Clark DT 4 UCLA Jr 6-2 310 1
19 Reggie Ragland ILB 1 Alabama Sr 6-2 252 1
20 Connor Cook QB 3 Michigan State rSr 6-4 220 1
21 Shaq Lawson DE 3 Clemson rJr 6-3 270 1
22 Jack Conklin OT 4 Michigan State rJr 6-6 318 1
23 Leonard Floyd OLB 3 Georgia rJr 6-3 232 1
Kong’s continued list of top 5 prospects:
26 Adolphus Washington DT 5 Ohio State Sr 6-4 290 1-2
27 Jonathan Allen DE 4 Alabama Jr 6-3 283 1-2
28 Germain Ifedi OT 5 Texas A&M rJr 6-5 325 1-2
29 Emmanuel Ogbah DE 5 Oklahoma State rJr 6-3 275 1-2
30 Jarran Reed DT 6 Alabama Sr 6-3 313 1-2
31 Tre’Davious White CB 4 LSU Jr 5-11 191 1-2
32 Derrick Henry RB 2 Alabama Jr 6-2 242 1-2
33 Jonathan Bullard DE 6 Florida Sr 6-3 283 1-2
34 Josh DoctsonInjured WR 4 TCU rSr 6-2 195 1-2
35 Noah Spence OLB 4 Eastern Kentucky rJr 6-3 261 1-2
36 Jason Spriggs OT 6 Indiana Sr 6-6 305 1-2
37 Jayron Kearse SS 1 Clemson Jr 6-4 220 1-2
38 Kendall FullerInjured CB 5 Virginia Tech Jr 6-0 197 1-2
39 Cody Whitehair OG 1 Kansas State rSr 6-4 309 1-2
40 Will Fuller WR 5 Notre Dame Jr 6-0 184 1-2
41 Su’a Cravens OLB 5 Southern California Jr 6-1 225 2
42 Shilique Calhoun DE 7 Michigan State rSr 6-5 252 2
43 Vadal Alexander OG 2 LSU Sr 6-5 329 2
44 Austin Johnson DT 7 Penn State rJr 6-3 325 2
45 Jordan Jenkins OLB 6 Georgia Sr 6-2 253 2
46 Vonn Bell SS 2 Ohio State Jr 5-11 205 2
47 Tyler Boyd WR 6 Pittsburgh Jr 6-2 200 2
48 Darian Thompson FS 1 Boise State rSr 6-2 210 2
49 Jake Butt TE 1 Michigan Jr 6-5 248 2
50 Christian Hackenberg
Awesome. You only got 800 more names to throw out.
All that copying and pasting is tiring. I’m going to guess that I got at least one right, lol.
Al, I like the possibility of likely late round QB’s Brandon Doughty or Brandon Allen to develop as replacement for Moore….and if they overtake Tanny, so beit.
I’m not sold on Lynch….I’ve got a Blaine Gabbert feeling about him.
The only sure fire QB for me in this draft (if he chooses to come out) is Jared Goff…he plays the pocket the exact same way Rodgers does (a magician with his feet).
getterdone says:
December 7, 2015 at 2:34 pm
Awesome. You only got 800 more names to throw out.
i just love pointing out when you are wrong. he has 814 more to go.
CavalierKong,
A couple names that got me smiling ….
VONN BELL
VADAL ALEXANDER
Sweet, I just knew they were going to be good 😉
Kong, I guarantee you a handful of those prospects will be really good. I’ll unleash their names in a couple of years to prove it. 😉
You and me both, brother. 🙂
CavalierKong,
MAJOR THUMBS DOWN on ….
Derrick Henry
OVERRATED (product of the system)
Actually I never get into the draft projections because I don’t watch college ball. That may change though. After the Dolphins game on Sunday, my wife wanted to watch the Oakland game (she like watching Oakland when they lose), she looks over at me and says “we should start watching College football too”. I love this woman.
Tim,
I sent you an email the other day, but I think it might have been to a burner account you used when you were getting in touch with everyone recently.
I just checked it and replied. It’ll good, bro.
Cheers.
GDP,
I been looking at Doughty but his throws sometimes have some float (when he’s pressured). I guess there are footwork issues there to work on. I think his pocket presence is decent and he tries to make quick decisions at times. He seems to torque his body though on throws at times.
GDP,
Max Wittek (Hawaii QB; a USC transfer) is another guy i’d take a last RD flyer on if not then during the UDFA period. A bit raw but he’s got the big arm.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2015/12/in-the-real-world-ryan-tannehill-remains-miami-dolphins-qb.html
https://screen.yahoo.com/new-york-giants/top-5-catches-week-13-193005672.html
By the way, if you want to chew on a defensive stat, then here it is (through Week 12 since Week 13 doesn’t end till after tonight’s game)…
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/dl
Look at “Stuffed” rank for Miami’s DL (this statistical page is dedicated to DL efficiency): 10th
As defined by Football Outsiders -> Stuffed: Percentage of runs where the running back is tackled at or behind the line of scrimmage.Ranked from most stuffs (#1) to fewest stuffs (#32)
Other notes on reading the table data:
A team with a high ranking in Adjusted Line Yards but a low ranking in Open Field Yards has a strong defensive line but its linebackers and secondary have difficulty in pursuit and tackling. A team with a low ranking in Adjusted Line Yards but a high ranking in Open Field Yards generally allows runners to get past the defensive line but the linebackers and secondary are good at pursuit and tackling. A low ranking in Adjusted Line Yards with a high ranking in Open Field Yards is often an indicator of a 3-4 defensive scheme, though there are exceptions.
Fins rank 13th in Adjusted Line Yards (yards given up to a RB per carry but on a statistically adjusted basis to account for down, distance, situation, opponent, and the difference in rushing average between shotgun compared to standard formations).
Fins rank 29th in Open Field Yards given up; 28th in 2nd Level Yards given up.
The data points to our LB stinking
We see it all the time. We makes plays in the backfield every week then allow massive chunk runs out of nowhere. We had a great goal line stand yesterday where I felt the Ravens should of kicked the FG. Guess how many points they lost by? 😉
TRY,
LOL @ #26 of the Jets on the Odell-Beckham catch…He looked so in awe that he didn’t even know how to position himself to tackle him.
Also, I heard THUNDER crash while watching Hopkins 1 hand a pass from Hoyer in that top 5 highlight reel.
that’s the best catch I’ve seen this year. He must have crazy glue on his glove.
Campbell was pleased with his rookies — receiver DeVante Parker, defensive tackle Jordan Phillips and cornerback Bobby McCain, who all got their first NFL starts.
Campbell said McCain will continue to start.
http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2015/12/07/dan-campbell-not-concerned-about-dolphins-passing-game/
Phillips deflected another pass that ended up a pick for Jones. That’s 4 now. The guy gets good pressure, is really tough to move and he always gets his hands up. He already is good but he could turn out to be really good.
What’s up FUers? I see a lot of bitching on here despite a win. It wasn’t pretty but it’s a W. I will take that.
Bah! Humbug! I don’t care!
As much as I said I don’t care I can’t help but sit there getting too invested during a game.
I think Kong forgot how to count to 5.
Going back to the DL efficiency numbers…
Football Outsiders’s DL table data (last one on the page) shows a % of plays that teams run in the direction of the DL through 5 spots: Left End, Left Tackle, Between the OG, Right Tackle, & Right End (these 5 spots are in the perspective of offense, e.g. LEFT END = RDE on defense).
In terms of % vs NFL average; the Left End is the area teams like to attack more often than not. I’ll post what percentage of plays teams have run in a particular direction and in parenthesis put what the NFL average is for teams going into those directions.
LEFT END = 18% (11%)
LEFT TACKLE = 10% (13%)
BETWEEN OG = 52% (53%)
RIGHT TACKLE = 10% (13%)
RIGHT END = 9% (10%)
Ken
It was nice to finally feel detached emotionally. I didn’t get upset once, well, really upset anyway. I said a few disparaging words, but I was far from livid.
I did yell a couple of times when tanny’s passes were sailing over receivers heads and we had a couple of bad drops. One by cameron was terrible but we were called for holding anyway so it didn’t matter.
What is up with offside penalties? A few times we had them in 3rd and 8 or more then an offside gave them an easy 3rd down to convert. We got very lucky to win that game.
Hi Ken,
I’ll take the victory any way I can see it LOL
4 more to go; all are winnable in that the opponent has major flaws (like Miami has).
Giants offense is good but their D is pretty lousy and since Miami’s major issue in winning games is the offensive output; that should make it ‘competitive’ for Miami to take it. Ravens ran a 3-4 which they seem to have a harder time with than vs a 4-3 alignment (just an observation of mine; especially with how RT has to scan the field when guys are dropping back into covereage not to mention the big NT punishing the undersized Fins C-OG).
Well, forget all 4…NE has issues but would beat Miami with their current unit IMO. I was hoping for NE to have clinched #1 by Week 17 so they could bench half their team in the 2nd HALF of that matchup but last night’s result puts that in jeopardy LOL. At this point injuries for NE is the only advantage Miami can hope for.
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That play when Cameron lost his balance, and was called for a false start was bizarre. He just kinda slipped from his stance.
lol, i was laughing at that play and told my brother “This is just typical of this team”
Tim,
Agree on Phillips…he’s got good instincts.
Yeah and I don’t see lazy.
Pro Football Focus (@PFF) | Twitter
6 mins ago
Sammy Watkins (+8.1) has the 4th highest grade among WRs since Week 9. Starting to really cook on gas.
Been giving him serious advice since he is on Team Stanger.
BTW — never bring on Yets or Pats on my team……..thinking Bills fans might hate reading that actually.
I lost by .15 points in FF last night. I had a 30.5 lead and my opponent had Antonio Brown. Not sure yet if that screwed me up for the playoffs or not.
Sounds like a time to follow the stat corrections very carefully…….you been a good boy lately? LOL
Eh, not particularly. lol
The not Quiz of the Day.
What NFL team , at least according to the article I just read, “ranks last in the NFL in pass defense”?
The Giants? Has to be
You got it……we might not be as run heavy next game.
LOL, Ken. 1,2,3, 47
I’m not sure if anybody else mentioned this during the game, but on a badassery scale of 1-10, Parker celebrating the TD by putting his hand in the air while making the catch BEFORE he’d even landed on his back has got to be at least a 9.
Stanger
The Giants pass defense is awful. I watch them every now and again, they can’t stop anyone. I hope we’re not their first conquest. lol
Kong
Did you see Antonio Brown’s TD celebration. He could have gotten really hurt. He almost landed on his head, and could have really hurt his neck. It was fun to watch though
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2015/12/06/nbc-show-president-before-colts/76894554/
Lol, weird. No I hadn’t seen that one yet. The ol’ hump the goalpost celebration.
The funny thing is the woman standing behind the goalpost. Scared the f*ck out of her. lol
Mike:
I can’t help it when I watch a game. I just start turning a little green and well then…you have watched games with me. LOL.
LOL – Understood. Damn gamma rays!
Al:
Hulk agree with you. Wins better than losses.
Ken says:
December 7, 2015 at 3:43 pm
What’s up FUers? I see a lot of bitching on here despite a win.
i dont think anyone is bitching about the win or how it was won, they are bitching about the flaws of this team. but hey, i am not that arguing type so i will leave it at that. lol
Ken says:
December 7, 2015 at 3:45 pm
I think Kong forgot how to count to 5.
that is cause he is a primate, they still havent grasped all the uses of a thumb
Where do you want it?
http://www.ntnusymbiosis.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/thumbs-up.jpg
Damn it didn’t embed, lol.
lol
LOL FFR on Kong
I’m just looking back at the Ravens/Dolphins list of active/inactives and just realized the Fins put Chris McCain & Jamar Taylor on the game’s inactive list. Neither guy was on the NFL injury report prior to the game so what’s up with that?
I know Taylor was demoted. McCain has been up and down all year.
Kong,
LOL @ Parker making the TD signal before the catch ..that would be the best celebration ever 🙂
It was pretty sweet, if not the smartest. I had to rewind to see if I saw what I thought I saw, lol.
CavalierKong says:
December 7, 2015 at 4:46 pm
Where do you want it?
i would say deeply embeded, but we all know when it comes to that you can perform.
LOL
Al in MIA says:
December 7, 2015 at 2:39 pm
CavalierKong,
MAJOR THUMBS DOWN on ….
Derrick Henry
OVERRATED (product of the system)
Reply
There ya go. He’ll be in Canton after his career….LOL
Mike E. says:
December 7, 2015 at 4:16 pm
LOL – Understood. Damn gamma rays!
some gamma’s are better then others
Isn’t she a little old for you?
getterdone says:
December 7, 2015 at 5:03 pm
Isn’t she a little old for you?
at my age, everything is a little old for me
Boyle gets popped in Baltimore.
Stanger,
Using Football Outsider’s metrics through Week 12 (Week 13 is not over until the game tonight), this is where the Giants D ranks in various areas.
DEFENSE EFFICIENCY RATINGS
Overall DEF rank: 27 (Miami 28)
Pass DEF rank: 25 (Miami 27)
Rush DEF rank: 17 (Miami 25)
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DEFENSE vs. TYPES OF RECEIVERS
DEF vs #1 WR: 11 (Miami 32)
DEF vs #2 WR: 20 (Miami 29)
DEF vs Other WR: 9 (Miami 18)
DEF vs TE: 27 (Miami 14)
DEF vs RB: 18 (Miami 14)
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2015 DEFENSE BY PASS DIRECTION (direction by perspective of offensive team)
Overall LEFT: 23 (Miami 30)
Overall MIDDLE: 22 (Miami 25)
Overall RIGHT: 8 (Miami 12)
DEEP (All directions): 25 (Miami 29)
DEEP LEFT: 19 (Miami 30)
DEEP MIDDLE: 23 (Miami 27)
DEEP RIGHT: 25 (Miami 13)
SHORT (All directions): 12 (Miami 22)
SHORT LEFT: 22 (Miami 23)
SHORT MIDDLE: 18 (Miami 17)
SHORT RIGHT: 5 (Miami 11)
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Looking at DEFENSIVE LINES data tables…
Here is where Giants D rank in adjusted yards given up per carry by direction of opposing OL
LEFT END: 31 (Miami 2)
LEFT TACKLE: 23 (Miami 28)
MID/GUARD (Between the OG): 21 (Miami 26)
RIGHT TACKLE: 10 (Miami 3)
RIGHT END: 15 (Miami 17)
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RUN STOPPING data ranking
STUFFED % (% of run plays the D stuffs behind LOS): 21 (Miami 10)
POWER SUCCESS (Power Success: Percentage of runs on 3rd/4th down, </= 2 YDS that achieved a 1st Down / TD. Includes runs on 1st/2nd & goal from 10 yds past LOS / Total RB carries): 7 (Miami 23)
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PASS RUSH data ranking:
Adjusted Sack Rate (sacks plus intentional grounding penalties per pass attempt adjusted for down, distance, and opponent): 32 (Miami 19)
GDP,
Lmfao….
I mean outside of Eddie Lacey (he’s going backwards after a promising start in GB), who has panned out from Bama?
Kong,
The greatest celebration ever would be a WR pulling a Marshawn Lynch “Hold my Dick” thing while suspending himself in mid air and then catching a ball for a TD.
LMAO!
Stanger,
I guess the best thing the FINS O can glean from the data is that the Giants are the worst at generating sacks 🙂
I caught close to last in the NFL in most pass D catogories. I’m cool with, but thanks for the time putting it all out there. And we are what we are…….just good to know what we can look for next Monday.
So anybody else absolutely positive we’re going to win another 2-3 games, not enough to mean anything except putting us into the 14-17 draft pick range?
Oh, another reason we won yesterday that probably slipped past everyone; Sure the where moving the ball and certainly must have outgained us and time of possesion
BUT
we where still getting off the field without giving up points
FLAGS on D!
I’m sure we had a few but I really only recall an off-sides I think.
Got off the field while they where still in punting position mostly.
VERY GOOD!
YOUNG STANGER: IN CASE you missed my report late last night on the prior blog, I REALLY enjoyed your company at the game. Your standing up and pointing to “FIELDS” on the back of your jersey (after a poor punt by Miami) was truly EPIC!! We had a great time, didn’t we??–The 300 mile drive back to Tampa Bay was much easier after A WIN!!
Evening Update
DOLPHINS-GIANTS
Al 27-26 MIA
Piggy 19-16 MIA
Howie 29-27 MIA
WERE STILL BAD!
Ron Rivera is my favorite coach in the NFL now. That response to a reporter calling him out over concussions is awesome. I wish he were here both for his skills and because I’d love for him to castigate Omar.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000596485/article/rivera-on-concussion-protocol-dont-question-integrity
Just met E-40 in my office. Pretty cool dude.
?
I’m guessing that is a “who or what the hell is an E-40” question mark?
Rap star. Was a member of The Click back in the 90’s (when I listened to him)? Still makes music today.
i dont know if it is cause he showed me his thumb and got me all excited or not, but i once again agree with an ape. the fins will win a few more games just to finish around 500 and be stuck again in the middle of the draft.
kong,
the only good thing for the fins about drafting in the middle of the draft is it is much easier for them to find an injured draftee to pick.
Lol, that’s true.
Al, the Jints pass rush is getting better with JPP & his club back on the field.
Browns placed LG Joel Bitonio (ankle) on injured reserve, ending his season.
One of the NFL’s best guards as a rookie in 2014, Bitonio took a step back during his sophomore campaign, particularly as a pass protector.
…….just good to know what we can look for next Monday.
stanger,
thats easy. same thing i look forward too. that i wake up tuesday
ffr — are you related to Ben Franklin or are just the publisher of the new Farmer’s Almanac……..yeah that means I am saying both that I laughed and well done.
olddolphan says:
December 7, 2015 at 5:51 pm
YOUNG STANGER: IN CASE you missed my report late last night on the prior blog, I REALLY enjoyed your company at the game. Your standing up and pointing to “FIELDS” on the back of your jersey (after a poor punt by Miami) was truly EPIC!! We had a great time, didn’t we??–The 300 mile drive back to Tampa Bay was much easier after A WIN!!
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OD — I absolutely did (and even it was not quite “epic”….was fun). i’m like your mother-in-law, always there even if you don’t see me.
In that case didn’t respond back cause it was end of last page. We had a great time my bud. No one I would rather sit next to at Sunlife.
And I’ll bring up to the crew…OD has seasons and does that 600 mile commute to each game. Only person sorry about that is Ross. 🙂
New Age says:
December 7, 2015 at 6:04 pm
Ron Rivera is my favorite coach in the NFL now. That response to a reporter calling him out over concussions is awesome. I wish he were here both for his skills and because I’d love for him to castigate Omar.
you spelled castrate wrong.
Beginning to look a lot like Christmas
Yeah, the tv never shuts up about it.
LOL
The Giants are also 5-7 and definitely beatable. But we have to start scoring more points. Let’s get out your funk Ryan and start slinging it.
But Omar say’s he doesn’t have ‘IT’.
Teams and players go through ebbs and flows. This has been a screwed up season and I don’t surely blame RT for all of it but it would be nice to see him pick it up and finish the year playing well.
Agreed, with some good play down the stretch he can shut up the harsh critics until the next game that he & the team struggles. That shouldn’t be long with the flawed systems installed & the poor play around him
Yeah, that will solve everything….SMH
Though I am really sad to hear this it was inevitable. You may have been the most complete drummer ever. Glad I got to see you as many times as I did.
http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/12/rushs-neil-peart-says-hes-retired-from-music/
My favorite drummer ever. I listen to Rush just to listen to Peart play. I never got to see him live though 😦
I saw them 3 or 4 times between the mid 80’s and 2012. First show was my favorite (Hollywood Sportatorium). Last show was because my wife bought me tickets for my birthday. They were awesome and had more followers in the business than most because of their musicianship. I think he’ll do exactly what Bruford has done- say he’s retired and stay that way. He’ll be writing books that will keep him in the public eye (marginally), but he won’t be doing many appearances if any. Rush the band is no more. Sciatica for Lifeson, arthritis for Peart, lost vocal range for Lee.
It’s interesting how people rate musicians. I have a friend who is a drummer, more so back in the day then now. But he was a huge Rush fan and loved Neil Peart. Back in September on the anniversary of John Bonham’s death we had a discussion on Facebook and he said ‘the best’ meaning Bonham. I said wow, I always thought you were a Neil Peart guy and he said “Love Neil, but Bonzo was an innovator. Neil is an interpreter. A damn good one, but an interpreter, nonetheless.”
I’ve always loved Bonzo and his power, but if you really listen to his intricacies within the tunes, he employs a lot of jazz elements and other unique techniques. His stuff isn’t easy to play the right way. His bass foot was amazing and he had really quick hands and made a 5 piece kit sound like a wall of drums where Peart used a wall of drums. I like Peart a lot too though. Bill Bruford is another drummer I’ve always loved, he’s also very unique.
Bonham was an innovator- I absolutely love listening to him, but he lacked nuance. Bruford was the best a syncopations I ever heard. It may be fair to say Peart was an interpreter- but he could play just about any style convincingly and never gave up trying to improve himself. Those 3 comprise my 3 favorite drummers.
getterdone says:
December 7, 2015 at 7:01 pm
Yeah, the tv never shuts up about it.
tell me about it, i have bought 89 cars since thanksgiving
Try,
You ever get started on Rothfuss?
It is on my nightstand as we speak (type). It is sitting next to the unfinished “The Crippled God” which I am half way through and have been for about 2 years. Lol
Awesome. As a fantasy fan, I’d be surprised if you don’t really dig Name of the Wind.
For me, the Malazan is a good comparison to the Kingkiller in the sense that both of them grabbed me and I couldn’t put them down. Of course the Malazan started draggin around book 5 or 6 but the first few books are some of the best fantasy I’ve ever read. Same with Kingkiller, the first two books are amazing.
Are you reading any of Esselmont’s contributions to the series?
getterdone says:
December 7, 2015 at 7:02 pm
But Omar say’s he doesn’t have ‘IT’.
i think he said get, not have.
CavalierKong says:
December 7, 2015 at 7:29 pm
My favorite drummer ever. I listen to Rush just to listen to Peart play. I never got to see him live though 😦
i find it hard to watch them play dead……well that is unless i am on a date with them.
It’s a good thing I don’t really watch TV. It would probably ruin too much for me.
A LOCAL PAPER erroneously reported that today was the anniversary of the infamous “SNOWPLOW GAME” between the Dolphins and the Patriots. Actually, December 12 is the correct anniversary of that first of many nefarious and blatantly improper actions taken on behalf of the Patriots franchise. The game, played in a snowstorm in the 4th quarter, was tied at 0-0 with about 4-5 minutes left in the game. At the direction of Patriots’ head coach Ron Meyer, criminal Mark Henderson (out on work release) was sent out onto the playing surface to clear the area for a New England field goal attempt. The kick was good, prompting an immediate protest by Miami head coach Don Shula when the game ended 3-0. Shula complained to commissioner Pete Rozelle that the plowing gave the Pats’ an unfair advantage. Rozelle agreed, but, since there was no specific rule against using a plow, Rozelle declined to change the results of the game. During the off season, the NFL DID BAN the use of snow plows at any league games.
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But Miami would gain their revenge later that year. Because of the strike-shortened 9-game season, the NFL expanded the playoffs to 8 teams from each conference. Round One of the AFC Playoffs pitted the #2 seed Miami hosting the AFC’s #7 seed, the Patriots, in the historic Orange Bowl. A HUGE sign in the East end zone proclaimed “No Snow Plow Today!” And, indeed, in a game I attended, a game I called “Son of Snow Plow,” the Miami Dolphins, led by QB David Woodley, HAMMERED New England 28-13 in a game more lopsided than the score. That win propelled Miami to a dream rematch of the previous year’s colossal playoff game in which the Chargers defeated the Dolphins in overtime in what most believe was the greatest game in Dolphins history! THIS TIME, WOODLEY and the Dolphins would gain revenge by crushing Dan Fouts and his Chargers 34-14!! THAT win got Miami into the AFC Championship Game against the hated NEW YORK JETS, again in the historic Orange Bowl. And we all know who won that game, DON’T WE, KIDDIES!!!
OD — just re-read what I wrote up above. Just to make clear. Neither my move on the Field’s jersey or the game itself was exactly “epic”……..but hanging with you was as usghe. But then that sort of denudes the meaning of “epic” too. 🙂
YS: YOU are too modest! And, yes, we certainly could have used Fields yesterday. But I think Dare will rebound with a better performance next Monday Night.
lol, david woodley. some say shula’s greatest feat was an undefeated season. wrong, his greatest feat was getting to a SB with david woodley.
YOU can make a strong case for that, FFR. Woodley would go on to complete his first pass in Super Bowl XVII for a 70-yard touchdown to Jimmy Cefalo. But he only completed 3 more passes THE ENTIRE GAME!! –AMAZINGLY, Miami still led that game early in the 4th quarter, thanks to their “KILLER B’s” defense. But John Riggins’ 4th down touchdown run later in the game sealed the Redskins’ victory. A few years’ later Woodley was traded to Pittsburgh and was soon cut, due to his alcoholism. He died of liver cancer a few years later.
Try, I have a hard time rating musicians because it’s a unique thing. What do mean Bonzo lacked nuance? What I love about Bruford is his offbeat adds. Steward Copeland was similar in that way.
Good stuff on Peart & Bonham. Loved them both and their uniques approach & styles.
Tim,
I don’t mean to downplay Bonham’s abilities. I cannot do with my bass foot what he could, so the best I could ever do was modified or variations of triplets. He was the master at it. And I do not mean that Bonham was without the ability to vary his style, but he did not demonstrate a lot of it during his time- he was consistently hard-hitting through most of his catalog.
TRY: DID YOU say this Bonham guy was hard-hitting?? Can he play Linebacker?? –Or does “hard hitting” refer to his reefer consumption???
Unfortunately, he cannot. He was a hard-drinkin’ Limey who choked to death on his own vomit while passed out on Jimmy Pages’ couch sometime in ’81, I think.
I never put in effort to learn double bass and never had a ghost pedal, so…
I did not know you played drums. Maybe I forgot, did we discuss this before?
Kinda. We’ve talked about about music on and off over the past several years. Remember discussing Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe and Squire as the best incarnation of Yes?
He had a great knack for hitting the off beat, very instinctive.
Ramble On Bonzo!
The most hilarious commentary from these Aussies. We need commentators like this in the US.
*warning, some language may not be suitable for some. Children like FFR, etc. 😉
WELL, FOLKS, this old guy is gonna watch the pride of Florida Atlantic University, Washington running back Alfred Morris, weave his way through the Cowgirls as Washington “SKINS” the Dallas boys tonight on Monday Night Football. DID you know Washington is 5-1 at home this season?? Now, quickly, WHO was the only team to beat Washington at home this season??
Phins beat Skins in DC.
Redskins are 0-5 away from Washington tho.
*warning, some language may not be suitable for some. Children like FFR, etc. 😉
lmao, yet you posted it.
isnt Bonham something that happens to piggy when he passes out drunk.
Try I was there
I saw them like three time at the Sport Hole starting around 1980
Never did see them in their later years so I was probably at every show they ever did there
RUSH!
Geez, no one liked the Aussie commentary above on the Thurs Packers Lion final play? It is very funny. Only 2 min long.
Tim,
Agreed on rating musicians against each other. There was a time I might fight someone for saying anything bad about Peart, but I’ve come to appreciate different drummers for different abilities.
Copeland is great with middle-eastern beats- his ability to work off the down beat is tremendous.
Alex Van Halen might be the most underrated drummer in rock history- I particularly like his offbeat abilities.
Danny Carey is my favorite of the nineties crop. He is really amazing.
But I will say after watching videos of him, Buddy Rich was a master. He was so quick and so nimble.
Alex Van Halen’s offbeats reminded me of Bonham. He was underrated.
One time it was a riot at the Rush concert; Rumors starting spreading around the parking lot that the concert was cancelled. Everyone stormed the gate and where scaling the wall. My buddy even fell off into the Moat when the Cops started shooting tear gas. Finally a bunch of us Bashed in the big wooden gate on the side where the tour trucks go in and we all barged up on in right to the front row. And yes the concert did go on after all that mess
Don’t worry I won’t talk about why our offense sucks:
Lazor or the OL? LOL
I saw Rush at the Nassau Coliseum, Long island, NY back in the 80s on a really cold night. My friends car broke down on the Grand Central Parkway on the way home. It was one of those nights. Rush was great though. LOL
“On 24 September 1980, Bonham was picked up by Led Zeppelin assistant Rex King to attend rehearsals at Bray Studios for a tour of North America, to begin 17 October in Montreal, Canada – the band’s first since 1977. During the journey, Bonham asked to stop for breakfast, where he drank four quadruple vodkas (16 shots, between 400–560 ml). He then drank after arriving at rehearsals. The band stopped rehearsing late in the evening and then retired to Page’s house, the Old Mill House in Clewer, Windsor. After midnight on Thursday, 25 September, Bonham fell asleep; someone took him to bed and placed him on his side. Benji LeFevre, Led Zeppelin’s tour manager, and John Paul Jones found him dead the next afternoon.[16] Bonham was 32.
The inquest on 27 October 1980 showed that in 24 hours Bonham had drunk around 40 shots (1–1.4 litres) of 40% ABV vodka, after which he vomited and choked. The finding was accidental death.[16] An autopsy found no other drugs in Bonham’s body.[17] Bonham’s remains were cremated and his ashes interred on 12 October 1980, at Rushock parish church, Worcestershire.
John Bonham’s gravestone at Rushock Parish churchyard, Worcestershire, with drumsticks left in tribute by fans.
The remaining members disbanded Led Zeppelin rather than replace him. They said in a press release on 4 December 1980: “We wish it to be known that the loss of our dear friend and the deep respect we have for his family, together with the sense of undivided harmony felt by ourselves and our manager, have led us to decide that we could not continue as we were.” It was signed “Led Zeppelin”.
Jimmy Page was so distraught he couldn’t pick up his guitar for about a year or so. Out of respect for John his son Jason is the only drummer they will play with. Except for Phil Collins at the No Nukes concert which was horrible. I think that was the show.
This is my favorite Neil Peart video, and it’s not with Rush. His posture is horrible, but when Buddy Richs’ band gives you props, you are doing something right (watch the horn players during the cowbell portion- about the 5:30 mark):
http://youtu.be/aT9333XiR4U
getterdone says:
December 7, 2015 at 8:20 pm
Geez, no one liked the Aussie commentary above on the Thurs Packers Lion final play? It is very funny. Only 2 min long.
you dont think that was real do you?
Yeah it was real, you think it was Hal from Space Odyssey 2000?
son,
i will be glad to discuss it but first can i ask you why the fuck do you have an elephant in your living room
if that room also had a step ladder, I’d say you have the answer to your question.
Its Tannehill in the pocket
when I watch the Cowboys tonight I’ll be thinking… “of course the only game Romo plays is against the Fins” 6-6 would be more promising and keep us dreaming of 9-7 season.
I miss having time to blog. 😦
Camolina is pretty incredible. Find ways to win. Even with one of the best Defenses in the league they found themselves in a dogfight and scrapped out a 41-38 win. Sometimes you just have to outscore the other team.
Saints give up 30-40+ points a week. Rob Ryan musta kept them stoned all season….lol
Last thin on Peart:
Tim, next time you speak to your friend, as him about Pearts’ ability to play poly-rhythms. In all my years of listening to drummers, I never saw anyone better at them, and his ability to create and remember long, intricate patterns and repeat them exactly was truly amazing
Oh there is no slight here. I love Peart’s playing and so does he. My good friend’s brother who was also a really good drummer loved Bonzo and though that Peart and Carl Palmer were overrated. He thought Ginger Baker was the best of all of them. Baker and then Bonzo and Moon right there.
Blake Bortles threw 5 TD’s yesterday in a loss, that sucks for him. Mariotta also played really well, an 87 yard scamper for a TD.
son of a son of a shula says:
December 7, 2015 at 8:34 pm
Its Tannehill in the pocket
lol, says the guy who said he would take cousins over tanny.
three plays tonight and cousins is sacked twice once with fumble. boy do you know how to pick talent.
son, you ought to do a stand up routine on how to pick nfl talent, just be yourself
Mancampbell’s Victory locker room speech. Cool stuff.
I miss having time to blog. 😦
here let me catch you up with what you missed:
tanny sucks
no he doesnt the oline does
tanny sucks
no he doesnt the def does
tanny sucks
no he doesnt the coaching does
tanny sucks
no he doesnt the ownership does
tanny sucks
no he doe…..oh look boobies
lmao…. throw in some kool-aid and I think you got it.
Here’s Bonzo in 1970 at the ripe old age of 22 years old. Look at his 26 inch bass drum. He’s a mad man. Him and Keith Moon who was also a great drummer were mates. LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_nU_VFvIZs
I own this video- BBC recorded it. The man was awesome. I still have no idea how he did those triplets so cleanly- he is feathering his foot and still getting all that power.
Good Ole Bobby McCain is probably going to continue to start
Phillips too
http://espn.go.com/blog/miami-dolphins/post/_/id/18722/dan-campbell-dolphins-rookies-jordan-phillips-bobby-mccain-remain-starters
Give Campbell credit for playing these young guys
Give the Hickey credit too. Decent draft class again.
Hickey is a good personnel man.