We might just win this game. Here’s my thinking…..The past 2 seasons we’ve needed to win the last 2 games to get in the playoffs. Now that it’s impossible, when it doesn’t matter, they will likely finish strong just to piss me off.
Let’s Go Dolphins!
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Howie 27-24 MIA
Mike 35-20 SD
Toba 38-10 MIA
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T/P 24-14 MIA
Real 31-17 SD
Old 19-17 MIA
Tim 27-26 MIA
GDP 31-27 MIA
Stang 27-3 MIA
GO PHINS!!!
Of course we’re going to win this game, we’re eliminated from the playoffs and we must get to .500. Must pile up meaningless passer stats so when thrown into the mix he looks like a hero. But here we are la de da – hum de dum winning shit.
So it’s just about Ryan eh? How about the receivers who have dropped more passes than any other team in the league or defenders who can pad their sack and tackle totals in meaningless games. It’s a team game, bro.
NOTHING MEANINGLESS TO ME about winning the last 3 games of the season. If, somehow, Campbell can guide this team to 8-8 after Philbin’s horrid start, then he (Campbell) should get some consideration for the head coaches’ position next season. Conversely, if we go 1-2 or 0-3 over the last 3 games, Campbell and his entire staff should be outta here!!
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ONE THING working in Campbell’s favor is the fact that A) ROSS is likely to retain T-Baum, according to reports, and B) NO GOOD coach will come to Miami knowing that Ross’s “DOOFUS BRIGADE” will STILL be calling the shots next season!! – – Talk about a career ender – – IF you want to end up like Sparano or Philbin, just agree to be the next head coach of Ross’s team!! – – I REPEAT, NO GOOD COACH IS GOING TO AGREE TO COME TO MIAMI AND TAKE ORDERS FROM TANNENBAUM & ROSS!
Not everyone feels the way you do about Tannebaum. He likely has connections with lots of coaches. The Dolphins coaching job is a good one. There are only 32 coaching jobs. I know you don’t like Ross either but he’s an owner willing to spend and that’s most important to coaches.
So Mando in his article today puts together a deal for S Payton to the phins
And he brings Brees with him
Kind of nuts, but maybe a bit nuts is what we need
I know that many are dead set against a #1 for a coach deal
However if that’s what it took to finally end this long nightmare ……
Let me pose the question like this, who would you trade for a quality head coach / front office :
Dion f/f Jordan
Jared Odrick
Vonte Davis
Jake long
The entire Ginn family
I see on this board that at least half of you would add T-Hill to an ugly list
There are a lot of reasons we are where we are today and when this many of your first rounders are a push like this list I’m not so sure a first rounder is the line I would draw in the sand a shout HELL NO
Just sayin
I’M REAL SURE I DON’T WANT THE BREES/PEYTON COMBO FOR A 7th ROUND DRAFT CHOICE, let alone a 1st round pick plus other Miami players!! 9-10 years ago I DID HAVE interest in Drew Brees when he became a free agent. BUT, NOW, he’s just another QB at the end of his career. WE HAD our chance at Brees in his prime and BLEW IT!! Bringing him in now would be YET ANOTHER EXPENSIVE MISTAKE!!–And Sean Peyton would NEVER work for the “DOOFUS BRIGADE” under ANY circumstances!
I hear ya, lots of crazy ideas going to be going around the next few weeks
Mandolin may have been drinking a bit when he wrote this one
But I assure you there will be worse ideas coming lol
“D”; With the DOOFUS BRIGADE in control, there’s ALWAYS a chance for a goofy proposal!
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?range=NFL&type=Receiving&rank=232
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2015/
Tim
We are middle of the pack in dropped passes
This stat is never the best recorded stat
But you can see both sites have us 15th and 18th
I’m seeing a lot of poor passes being called drops by a lot of people
OKAY, PIGGY, give us your plan to bring in a QB to start for the Dolphins in game #1 next season?? I’M BETTING YOU CAN’T DO IT!!! – – And I’ll bet even more money that Ross’s DOOFUS BRIGADE can’t do it. either!! It’s one thing to whine about quarterbacking. It’s QUITE ANOTHER to have a feasible plan THAT WILL ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL. Given our salary cap issues AND our horrid leadership, I see NO WAY MIAMI improves its quarterbacking for game #1 next season. MY PLAN, by the way, is to get us a middle-of-the-road OFFENSIVE LINE BY DRAFTING O-LINEMEN IN rounds 1 and 3 in the upcoming draft. With the CURRENT O-Line, Tanny, or any other QB, DOESN’T HAVE A CHANCE TO BE A TOP 10 QB!!
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OK, MR. PIGGY, LET’S SEE YOUR PLAN! –I SINCERELY HOPE IT WORKS!
I don’t want to bring in a new qb in 2016
I want focus on defense this offseason
I just think people are giving Ryan Tannehill a pass
Tanny won’t be any better if we spend an entire draft on OL
Tanny won’t be better if we make the WR unit over
He might get better on his own
Right now he is behind the learning curve though
And I’m not happy about that or the constant need for people to defend him when he is criticized
If his play is better the offense is much better
If it’s not it will bee more of the same in 2016
I would not toy too much with the OL or WR if your qb sets them all back anyway
Maybe bring in a vet OG or depth at OL
But not developmental guys
Just focus on D this offseason and if Tanny can’t bring up his play
We know we need a new direction in 2017
And we would have built up the D in the interim
Someone posted a stat just recently that had us with over 30 drops, that’s what I was going by.
That some one was Lauren Tannehill…lol
We are fine in that capacity
Landry is our leader in drops and he has a lot more targets than the people around him statistically
We have good receivers
But I know the dialogue now is targeting our receivers
Watch Vernon who is leading all RDEs in QB pressures pad his sack total from 7 to 12 the last 3 games so he can use those stats to get a big pay day when he really didn’t impact games like his stats would indicate.
He’s defintely been more of a force since Wake went down. I doubt we’ll be able to afford to keep him.
I like Vernon, but we’ve all watched him for 4 years and he’s not a great player, he’s a good player. He’ll get more money than he’s worth just like Odrick did.
Piggy, my reply to Son was it’s not all about Ryan. Our defense stinks and we still can’t figure out Lamar Miller is our best offensive player, not Landry.
That’s the thing Tim, no one here is saying it’s all about Tannehill, but whenever anyone brings up his lack of leadership or lack of ability to really take over a game, people just point out the OL, defense, receivers, poor play calling, etc. I’ve been on Tannehill for a while now, but I’m not ignoring those other factors either. The fact of tha matter is, he’s the QB; he’s going to get most of the praise in a win and most of the blame in a loss. That’s why QB’s get the big bucks.
Exactly
Yeah
But every time some one mentions Tanny
Even when they don’t say it’s all about him
That is what people do – “well this sucks too”
Alex Smith leads the league right now in being sacked
He has been sacked 40 times
Bridgewater, bortles and Wilson all sacked more times than Tanny
Tanny is tied with 4 other qb for most sacks including today’s opponent Rivers (35)
Brady is behind those guys with 32
The OL has been pass protecting much better in the last 4-5 games.
And run blocking very well
We just don’t stick with it
NOT SURE, Brian, that the O-Line has pass protected all that well in recent games. ANYONE, include Mr. Piggy, who thinks THIS O-Line is good enough to go “as is” next season is either blind or delusional. IF we follow Piggy’s advice and draft NO O-Linemen, one thing’d for sure: the O-Line WILL BE WORSE NEXT SEASON as Albert gets older and James gets fatter and more out of shape. IS THAT WHAT YOU REALLY WANT FOR THIS TEAM?? WELL, at least you’ll be able to say “Tanny’s having another shitty season” with even more gusto.
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I’d prefer to say “Tanny’s done better in 2016 because we’ve drafted two O-Line replacements who’ve given him more time to pass the ball and better blocking at the point of attack!” And the other 5 draft choices will STILL BE AVAILABLE to help a defense that definitely needs to be upgraded. The BIG QUESTION IS THIS: Will Ross let the “DOOFUS BRIGADE” do the drafting and signing of not-so-free agents and draft picks OR will ROSS opt for a complete makeover of the front office and consult experts like Bill Polian regarding WHO TO HIRE for next season?? –ROSS THINKS HE knows who to hire for these crucial jobs. But the fact is HE DOESN’T HAVE A CLUE, BASED ON HIS RECORD-SETTING 7 CONSECUTIVE NON-WINNING SEASONS AS FRANCHISE OWNER!!
What’s the point of this stat? You’re not suggesting our OL is good in pass pro are you because they’re not? Tanny gets hit after just about every throw and our pass pro always fails in the big spot. One way to help prevent that is to keep the ball on the ground with an excellent RB in Lamar Miller but we can’t seem to stick with that. No we have to lineup in shotgun on every down and throw bubble screens.
Geez
I should be able to post a stat about sacks without people getting defensive
Tanny is not the most sacked qb in the nfl
Alex smith is
Tanny has only been sacked 3 more times than Brady
I actually this the patriot OL is questionable
I think if we just stuck with the run our OL would look much better
See my avi- you don’t have to sell me on Miller. I’ve been touting him since his rookie season. We’ll probably lose him in the offseason, which would be a major loss. I’d rather keep him that Vernon TBH. Tannehill has been getting hit a lot less in the past four weeks compared to the rest of the season.
I wouldn’t waste another top pick to get a coach who has one SB, a couple playoff appearances, and one of the worst teams in the NFL the last few years. Payton wants full control but is an awful drafter. Brees is almost broken and definitely almost done with football. That would be one of the biggest mistakes out FO has ever made. It would set us back at least another 5 years.
Tannehill is average but our defense stinks. Like Piggy, I would draft defense, see if we can finally gt most of our OL to actually play most of a season, and spend mot of the time making sure I got the right coaches. Hue, Shula, and maybe two other really solid guys should be focused on. Get the guy who can get a great staff.
Oh, and the Jets just accomplished something we haven’t in a half decade with a newbie coach. Yeah. we suck.
I agree. I don’t want to spend draft picks to bring in a coach, unlewss it’s Belichick. We have way too many needs right now to be wasting picks.
If I was going to tank biggest problems on offense I would rank
1 Playcalling/design this includes abandoning the run of no reason
2. Qb play
3 OL
4 recievers including TEs
5 RBs
1 probably makes everybody else worse
But 2 is in serious need of improvement as well
That’s how I would rate it as well. I think the OL can be extremely good if we can get them all playing at some point in history. We could honestly be a lot like Seattle if we drafted the right defensive parts and had the right coaches.
It’s a little too soon for me to give up on Tanny
I would focus elsewhere this offseason
But I would not rely on Tanny or the offense to make us a legit playoff contender
Drafting DBS, LBs and maybe a pass rusher just makes a lot more sense to me
Can’t argue with that.
Brian, so what you’re saying is if everyone doesn’t agree with those assessments of Tannehill we must agree or we’re homers and you guys are just being realistic? People most definitely do blame Tannehill more than anyone else.
So in the Giants game we lead 17-10 with less than two minutes left in the half and what happened? Then we open up the 3rd qtr and Tanny hits Stills for a 47 yard TD then what happens? Oh right he didn’t throw a 4th qtr TD or lead the team to victory so that’s on him. How did the Giants score in the 4th qtr to beat us? Oh right we had them pinned deep and what happened? We don’t play complimentary football as a team.
My view has been we’re not a good team and it’s not all about RT. So I guess I can accuse some of you of defending other players not doing a good enough job. We’re not a good team right now, it’s pretty simple.
I get that, and I’m not singling you out Tim. I’m just saying that typically when Tannehill is critiqued, there is someone there to say it isn’t his fault, and that it’s the team as an whole. No one is denying that this defense sucks, and the OL needs some work.
Cool, that’s all I’m saying. Lots of players are under performing including Tannehill.
Tanny has a great skillset and we really do need to find a coach that optimizes him. Looking at Hue real closely now Red Rocket is done. Shula has obviously done well with Cam and Tanny has some of the same gifts. Wouldn’t mind him either but just depends on who these guys could bring with them to Miami. Part of Bowles success is the people he brought with them. They still a very average team but they finding ways to win.
NEW AGE: DOES IT BOTHER YOU that Ross kicked Bowles out the door and ended up picking Philbin?? –Bowles likely will go at least 10-6 this year and perhaps make the playoffs while our team continues to flounder.
The Jets also commit to the running game more and play better defense. They’re better than we are
Piggy, I wasn’t being defensive. You posted those stats out of nowhere because you like others don’t put most of the blame on Tannehill. LOL
Who said he’s the most sacked this year? He doesn’t have to be #1 in sacks to say we stink in pass pro which we do.
Brian, I see Tannehill picking himself up off the ground quite often. Even the announcers point it out.
I also think Tannehill needs to play better and I believe he can. But I look at everything that has happened this year and see the entire team in disarray. That tends to happen when the HC, DC and OC were all fired. Also many here say we have poor coaching but that seems to get lost when it comes to Tannehill but excuses were made for Suh not being in the right scheme blah blah blah. It’s a team issue, I’m pretty sure they’re all low on confidence.
BRIAN & PIGGY; Reply for you below your 9:58 and 9:59 posts. ENJOY!
Part of the problem with Tannehill is I don’t believe he’s a 40+ shotgun pocket passer. He’d be better suited in a more balanced scheme. He’s not a gunslinger, he’s more of a system QB who has very good mobility and athleticism but we don’t move him around a lot. Sure we let him keep it it a few times here and there on option reads and maybe bootleg or roll him out 2-3 times per game but always revert to shotgun even on short yardage. It’s a flawed system and it seems most here agree yet we still keep evaluating him based on that. I hate our offensive scheme and I hop next year it looks nothing like this.
I also want to see us re-sign Miller. Letting him go will be a huge loss and Ajayi isn’t as good as Miller. He’s shown some good skills but he’s not as explosive as Miller.
TOTALLY AGREE ON MILLER-TIME. –We must resign him.
I think he’s one of the most talented backs in the league. If we let him walk and he ends up in Denver in Kubiak’s system watch him lead the league in rushing or be one of the top backs.
Miller is entering his prime starting to find daylight more and more and he’s breaking off big runs now where he used to just miss it. If we let him walk it will be a huge loss.
OD, why do you say James will get fatter and more out of shape?
BECAUSE a friend who has seen James in the last couple of weeks says “James hasn’t missed any meals during the two months he’s been on the sidelines with a bad toe. James has DEFINITELY PUT ON WEIGHT and seems fatter.”
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The Philbin regime did NOT put enough emphasis on conditioning IMHO. That’s one reason WHY Miami lost so many games in the 4th quarter over the last several seasons. While it’s true management can no longer pull “3-A-Days” as Shula did during the summer training camp, they can push overall body fat numbers and conditioning tests and CUT those who do NOT measure up! Whoever is the next HC, he MUST tell the players that “Fat and out of shape” will get you CUT, and MEAN IT!!!
He can’t run with turf toe which is how guys burn off fat. He’s a big man at 6-6 320. Those guys don’t get thin when they can’t condition. He won’t be like that once he heels up.
Also Shula had some pretty poorly condition teams in the 80s when they would get run on down after down and couldn’t stop anyone. They looked like they were running in lead shoes.
Only two games on today nationally – Giants/Panthers and Broncos/Steelers. That sucks. Good games but why only two?
We’re getting our game at 4
Oh yeah you should being in the market. It’s strange here though where we’ve gotten 4 games. It’s the stretch run, I was expecting more games this week.
How sad is it to say, “if we only had Ryan Fitzpatrick”.
He’s only on his 6th team and in his 10th year and playing the best he’s ever played but people are ready to write off Tannehill in his 4th season playing in a shit offensive system. Look at how the Jets utilize their RBs and move Fitz around so he’s not stationary all the time. No we can’t do that, we must stick to shotgun 90% of the time. You know where there are only 3 running plays – a draw/counter, a stretch run or a keeper. That’s the way to keep a defense on their toes. SMH
By the way, Fitz and the Jets barely beat the Romoless Cowboys. They won because the Cowboys corner screwed up and let the WR run right past him when he was suppose to run with him.
I didn’t read the Mando article about Sean Payton and Brees, but, my thoughts on that scenario. IF you want Payton as a HC, it might not be such a bad thing to have Brees as well. Yes, he’s at the end of his career. He’s also a top tier veteran QB that could maybe help Tannehill progress. Not sure how you’d pay for all that though. Plus I don’t know that Brees would want to come to Miami after being passed up earlier in his career. Just something else to talk about and fight over when we don’t have the playoffs to talk about. lol
Brees coming here is not going to happen on so many levels. Man we’re going to extreme levels now. Wow!
Brees biggest reason would be to stay with Payton and in that offense.
PAYTON WON’T WORK FOR THE “DOOFUS BRIGADE!” Hell, even Fisher and Harbaugh wouldn’t take orders from Ireland (nor SHOULD THEY HAVE).
Stills would be happy I would think
ACTUALLY, I think Stills would be happier if he got traded to New England.
If we win and the Bills lose to Kirk and the skins we’ll have the same record.
Yes, SON, but by virtue of losing EVERY GAME IN THE AFC EAST BY AT LEAST DOUBLE FIGURES, we’d STILL BE IN LAST PLACE!!–Last season we beat the Patriots by 13, the Bills by 13 and the Jets by 3. This year, barring a miracle over New England, we’ll be 0-6 in the division. SORRY, but I DON’T see anything to celebrate.
Consequently if we lose and the bills win we lock up last place in the division
AND ROSS DECIDES TO STILL BRING BACK THE “DOOFUS BRIGADE!!”–Unbelievable!!
TIM: Answer for you up the page RE: JAMES getting fatter. Bring on the Golden Corral!!
The big fat yeast roll, that could be his new nickname
TIM; DON’T agree with you RE: Shula’s teams in the 80’s being fat and out of shape. ALSO: James could, if he wanted to, ride a stationary bike a lot more, but he apparently chooses NOT to!
Okay maybe they were just slow and not talented. I just remember some pretty bad football and without Marino they would have been one of the worst teams in the league for a 4-5 year run.
I’m not worried about James next season. I’d shut him down this year though. No reason for him to play in a lost season.
Tim Knight says:
December 20, 2015 at 11:35 am (Edit)
Brees coming here is not going to happen on so many levels. Man we’re going to extreme levels now. Wow!
I don’t see that either. Like I said, something to talk and fight over. lol
LOL, it wasn’t directed at you but more at Armando because this is the typical crap he does and fans bite.
and oink
I’m having a hard time getting a feel for today’s game. I could see the uninspired, coming off a short, out of the playoffs, traveling across the country blowout happening. But I could also see the “nothing to play for” heroes emerging and kicking ass.
OD
James gets fatter and more out of shape?
Where is this coming from?
He will be a 3rd year player next season
Am I supposed to want to draft OL in 2016 if they have a 2 year expiration date on them?
An who said the OL is good “as is”?
You can say if we don’t draft ____________ that unit will be worse next year for every unit
If we don’t draft a LB in 2016, the LB unit will be worse
same with DB
same with DL
same with OL
same with every position
The key is the best way to be competitive in 2016
And I think focusing the draft on defense is the best way to do that
Its really tough to say what will happen in 2016 when we don’t know who the coach is
each coach has there own style
if the HC decides he wants to focus on the OL and have an OL overhaul – I don’t think its the end of the world either
as long as its effective
more than anything else I want this team to have an identity and be elite at something
I really don’t care what it is
I just prefer we focus on defense and building around Suh
it seems like the smart route to have the most immediate effect IMO
We need depth at tackle but I would not rely on rookie OL. We need to add a proven vet guard at a solid market price, not a big contract and let the 3 youngins compete for one spot.
I agree
we have a bunch of young guys competeing inside
Vet OG and vet backups being added to the mix is probably what we need
We won’t have a lot of FA $ to spend
but there is alwys a little change over
and I think spending it on OL is the way to go – not drafting young guys
I really have to see how the draft shapes up before I rule it out though
PIGGY: YOU said NOT to draft O-Line in 2016–which tells me you think they are “good-to-go” as is. And I NEVER said OL has a 2-year expiration date on them–YOU DID!! Making up lies about what I have said is a trait another member of this board has already perfected.THE TRUTH IS our O-Line sucks and those who think it is OK either don’t know football OR have serious vision issues OR have some kind of built-in prejudice that needs to be satisfied by LYING!! –Well, counselor, you are out of order on this one. THIS team will NOT get better with the current O-Line’s performance. The O-Line MUST, I say MUST, be improved for ANY QB to have playoff success.
There were rumors that the Chargers were shopping Rivers last season
There is a possibility he is available this offseason
Would you trade Tanny for Rivers straight up if that trade was available?
Since 2010 the Chargers are currently 45-48 with Rivers. Why couldn’t he carry those teams to greatness?
That is the question mark with Rivers
I’m not sure his record would be better elsewhere
But in rivers case, he has proven to be clutch many times
he is credited with 25 game winning drives
Tanny is credited with 6
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/gwd_active.htm
I think there is a 7 or 8 year difference
So it might be a similar average
We would be the same mediocre at qb- he doesn’t want to leave San Diego for Los Angeles, why would he leave for Miami?
when we talk about Tannehill
I think part of the issue is that this sort of finesse offense was designed for big passing stats
This team was not really built for balance
I also think he would be better with balance and a much different design of the offense – like many people say
If there were changes next season in terms of having better balance
Tanny’s stats might decline sharply
but we might be winning more
That being said
I am really bothered by Tanny’s inability to make a play when he needs to make a play which I think he fails to do consistently
Even if we had more balance on offense
there are going to be moments when the QB has to make a play
or the QB has the ball last in the game
And Tanny seems to be at his worst when he is asked to do this
If he can’t make plays when he needs to
I don’t think he will thrive in any system
It would still come down to clutch throws and drives late in the game that isn’t predicated by the style of the offense
..And requires a leader to effect…
I totally agree
and again I say it, Tanny is at his worst in those moments
I bet we have a close game today
I’m curious to see the difference between how Tanny and Rivers perform in that situation
If Tanny performs the way he has
and we comment on that – cue the nonsensical posts about the rest of the team ______________ because we can’t evaluate individual performances anymore if Tanny is mentioned in a negative way
FWIW – I think it might get better in time
but I think its a big fat F right now for Tanny in those situations
Piggs I brought up the straight up trade a while back. Get ready to be called names.
It can’t be much worse than Piggs. Piggy or Pig can it?
At least those are endearing…
Try Pod says:
December 20, 2015 at 11:54 am (Edit)
We would be the same mediocre at qb- he doesn’t want to leave San Diego for Los Angeles, why would he leave for Miami?
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I think leaving San Diego for LA is more an issue about moving the team
I have always liked Rivers style of play
I don’t think of him as mediocre at all
If there is a guy int he league that needs a change its Rivers IMO
He REALLY has a bad oline
I am under the impression it has to do with lifestyle- I even vaguely remember him responding about this as AN if not THE issue.
well I know he doesn’t believe in birth control
from what I know about him Miami does not seem like his style
but San Diego is not exactly cookie cutter
He also has like 20 kids he’d have to move.
San Diego is probably the left-coast Right Wing capital of the United States.
And if we’re going by record alone then mediocre proves out. He’s got attitude but that does not make him clutch.
Piggy, Rivers has been in the league 8 more years than Tanny. Rivers currently averages comebacks about 2.1 times per season and Tanny about 1.6
yeah
when I posted the stat I figured it was close
FWIW, I enjoy watching Rivers play and he just looks the part more than Tanny to me but that is completely subjective
He carries the tag can’t win the big game for 12 seasons.
Son, who’s calling who names?
I think he is referring to his prior Sonny dream when he proposed trading Newton for Tanny before the season started
He got a lot of negative feedback
and now….well…Newton doesn’t look so bad to put it lightly
Not very realistic and until this year Cam was not killing it so it’s easy to go there now. The Panthers are having a wonderful year and they’re getting contributions from everywhere. That and Cam is unique. Not many QBs are 6-5 250 who can run like that. Tanny is like 6-4 220. They’re not the same.
You are right- they are not the same. One of them can take a crappy situation and find a way to finish on the +side, and the other.. has a vociferous crowd that comes to his defense anytime anything remotely critical is said about him. 🤔
Oh, and one of them is fair skinned, the other isn’t 😜
Just BB’s, having fun trolling…
We can build Rivers a shoe to live in on South Beach
I figure we’ve tried plenty of coaches and QBs to no avail, so why not go all out. Here’s a proposed trade scenario that will not only land us Mike McCarthy, along with Aaron Rogers, but also give us Rivera and Newton. We double down on both positions, let them cage fight for the starting HC and QB position and with this influx of talent we should be able to get to maybe 10 wins next year and a possible playoff spot!
http://www.cavalierkong.com/showthread.php?372092-trade-tannehill-two-1st-rd-picks-800-billion-dollars-3 nights-with-kate-upton-for-mccarthy-rogers-rivera-newton/page1
LMAO!!!!
“If Tanny performs the way he has
and we comment on that – cue the nonsensical posts about the rest of the team ______________ because we can’t evaluate individual performances anymore if Tanny is mentioned in a negative way”
Piggy …LOL …Also prepare for one of Tannehill’s champions to post a list of 6 or 7 QB’s who played worse than Tannehill today. As if this excuses all of Tannehill’s flaws. Clearly Tanny can only be criticized if every other QB in the league was better on that day.
Piggy, have you also noticed because of the offensive system we run which limits our options, our pass pro struggles the most in those clutch situations? You know when we become one dimensional and defenses pin their ears back. You agree our offensive system stinks and then in crunch time it’s all about RT. That’s what I’ve been saying all along. You can’t separate the two for that situation. We do it to ourselves.
No I brought up a straight up trade for Rivers before.
As for Cam he’s been my favorite player since he entered the league. With Suh second.
That is well established. LOL
But why would Carolina trade Cam, he was the #1 overall pick in 2011? They’re developing him and he’s entering his prime and is playing on an MVP level. You stick with it. You don’t give up on a QB like RT at this time. He’s not playing poorly overall, he’s just not having that take the next step season and his team is also not very good. Okay, maybe it happens in his 5th, 6th or 7th season and maybe on another team. maybe it never happens, but it’s too early to make that call, it really is.
We’re also at the bottom in a lot of defensive categories but that’s not important. 😉
I figure my trade scenario is slightly less ridiculous than Mando’s. I’m not giving up 2 firsts for any coach and for a QB showing his age and with maybe 2-3 years left. Especially when those 2-3 years I won’t have any 1st rd picks!
It’s absurd and typical Mando.
Yeppers. Next we’ll see Omar’s trade scenario for Flacco. (It’ll probably include Flacco getting 3 nights with Omar.)
I’d rather use our first rounder on Cook instead of a coach. But the strength of this draft early is the defensive players and I wouldn’t want to miss out on them.
Yes- no picks for a coach. It’s more about the system here than who’s running it imo, anyway.
The only game I care about today is Giants-Panthers. Giants are the Fins BFFs so they’ll take care of the Panthers for us.
Giants = running into a buzz saw
Likely. But I am hoping they can do it. The Giants are playing for a spot in the playoffs, and after all is said and done the Giants aren’t the Fins. Manning and the team will actually elevate their level of play this time of year.
The Flying Pig says:
December 20, 2015 at 12:06 pm
We can build Rivers a shoe to live in on South Beach
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So he can have so many kids his uterus will fall out?
Hey
Two weeks ago Tanny was just about done in my book but what I saw Monday earned him a slight reprieve…
The freedom to audible is something that maybe we should have been doing all along.
Those two plays in the 1st half that were obvious turned into things of beauty.
What Kills us is when we call T/O when the clock is not a factor
Nothing good ever happens on the play after, especially on 3rd down.
Same with the D
burn a T/O just to give up a TD on the next play
WTF!
It’s been a bad year all around and Campbell who I think can be a good HC and leader of men who can relate to players, even he can only do so much with this team. They’re broken all around. We’re grasping at straws focusing on a handful of players.
Kong, the Giants haven’t made the playoffs for 3 seasons and are in jeopardy of missing it again. Those super bowl teams are long gone. They’re not a good team. They have the best young WR we’ve ever seen and a proven QB but he’s also not consistent and they also run bizarre shit on offense. Other than that they have more holes personnel wise than we do. Remember they’re 6-7 in a bad division.
They signed Jennings to a 4 year $30M contract and give him 7 carries and maybe 2 catches per game. Sound familiar? LOL
I’m holding out hope here! Any given Sunday (except for the fins during a December playoff run).
My nightmare matchup is the Panthers and Pets in the damned SB, and I have to actually root for the Pets to win their 5th.
Why root for the Pets?
If the Panthers are undefeated I have to root for them to lose. The undefeated season is all I have left, lol.
Matty I @TheMattyI 5m5 minutes ago
Just how hard is it to find a good QB in the NFL? Redskins talking about doing a long-term deal with Kirk Cousins. I mean, good lord!
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are along of the lines of what I am thinking
Defense
big school
and productive in college
Good draft
I don’t really care of we go DB or LB or DL in the first round vs 2nd or 3rd
I would probably just take BPA at any position
But It might be wise to get a CB early b/c they go quick
and LBs are usually there a little later
Kong, okay the Panthers still need 3 more wins. I was just thinking SB matchup not about that.
It would be interesting that the only undefeated teams featured another Shula. 🙂
lol, that would be kind of a trip.
That we ain’t making the playoffs is really setting into today.
My biggest concerns right not are go with Brees or Bortles and what happens if Megatron can’t go Monday night and I have to scrap for a back-up.
And go Sammy Watkins!
Good luck! I lead my league in scoring went 6-6 and missed the playoffs. 😦
It was a really weird season with all the injuries…..one of the ESPN fantasy gurus called it the season of the replacements.
And yeah I hate getting the most points and being left out. In one league I bombed, but squeaked into the playoffs and cause of the pick-ups am totally favored. In the other, I ruled in points but now am the total dog to someone who did just what I did in the other.
Fire and ice my friend. 🙂
Go Giants!!!!
Beckham just dropped a sure TD. Had 2 steps on Norman and just flat out dropped it.
Go giants indeed.
‘The fact of tha matter is, he’s the QB; he’s going to get most of the praise in a win and most of the blame in a loss. That’s why QB’s get the big bucks.’
where? who does that? i dont see it on this blog. i dont see when they win everybody giving him most the praise. hell when they have won this year most on this blog still rip the team apart. so i dont get the ‘well the reason i just want to talk about the qb is cause when they win thats all people want talk about’ theory.
but i am sorry, i shouldnt add to the mix, i rather talk about what a total failure this organization is
rgs322 says:
December 20, 2015 at 1:11 pm
Beckham just dropped a sure TD. Had 2 steps on Norman and just flat out dropped it.
thats probably cause tanny over threw him. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Beckham and Norman having a war. And giants dropping a shitton of passws
Maybe we should look for a HC from obi wan kenobi’s coaching tree.
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manitobafinfan says:
December 20, 2015 at 1:33 pm
Beckham and Norman having a war. And giants dropping a shitton of passws
well lets be fair. their hands have to be pretty damn sore from all the action monday night
Lol
Stanger, correction I went 6-7. Our league is probably more low scoring than some of the other leagues, but you better score 80+ most of the time or you have no chance. I did with 4 100+, 4 90+ and 1 80+ but went 6-3 in those games. Anytime I had lower scores I lost those types of games at 0-4. I lost by 5 or less points like 5 times.
One of my friends who’s super competitive, a sports nut and a sore loser quit a few years ago when he had the same thing happen to him. He’s back in the league now. LOL
Tim: im in a 16 team money league and the points leader finished in 14th place out of playoffs. Strange.
That’s the game of chance that is argued in the Fan Duel/Draft Kings debate. I have no idea when Rogers will fall off his 20+ PPGA. You can do as much research as you want, you do not know the outcome of any particular game. That’s not a game of skill. It’s chance based on odds.
Tim — think they set up FF that way. Anyone can win. I eeked into the playoffs in the league I am now favored based on a stat correction that turned a loss into a win and cause the guy I beat out for the last spot (who scored more overall) had a tie. No stat correction I am out; one more point in that game for him and he’s playing not me.
We created our league I believe 26 years ago. I have been to the championship game 4-5 times and won it twice. I’m actually not sure, I’m 50 now so sue me. LOL
I’ve missed the playoffs maybe 10-12 times. Overall I’ve done pretty well. It’s not easy to stay on top as an armchair GM. LOL
Never suggested you didn’t do well and props to you for you for doing so. (I’ve done OK too……eight finals in my eleven seasons, only three wins though). Still know there are things you can’t control. To me top points regular season is the best team, but that one doesn’t always win.
tim,
i play in a one man fantasy league and i score like crazy
Who’s the man? LOL
Thought he was saying he is the league head and Ken was the one player. 🙂
And have callouses to prove it 😎
Tanny for sure the state next year unless the new coach just absolutely hated him. It’s also not an overly strong QB class this next year so drafting a guy unless we wind up top 5 won’t be a likely scenario.
We may bring a guy in FA to challenge him more than Moore ever has but I don’t see us busting of a high draft pick out dropping a ton of money on a very in FA. Year after next all bets are off on keeping him and I’m sure it will hinge greatly on if he bounces back next year.
He has never been exceptional but he has until this year always seemed headed in the right direction. So I think he deserves what I’m pretty sure he will get which is a chance to turn things around.
If bet money we invest stirringly on the defensive side of the ball. We have real holes there in positions you can’t afford to have holes and we got more coming in FA. I’m not certain it won’t be a fully defensive draft, maybe a RB prospect to help if we lose out on Miller in FA. We may also invest in a OK but if we don’t get one in first couple of rounds we would be better off just picking up someone in FA.
Going to be interesting to see how they go but QB in certain is set for next year.
Who’s the OK?
Tim Knight says:
December 20, 2015 at 2:01 pm
Who’s the man? LOL
duh. it is a fantasy league, it is whoever i want it to be.
Camolina the rout has begun
Stanger, I didn’t mean you said I didn’t do well. I was just talking about my experience. I’ve been in the hunt more than not and it’s fun. It’s hard to stay on top. We’re a protect league so our draft starts at 41 1st pick.
Cousins is trucking the jills
I see a recurring theme on this blog. Someone says Tannehill sucks, and then someone else says it’s not Tannehill’s fault, everyone sucks, and then the person who said Tannehill sucks gets all bent out of shape. Guess what? Tannehill doesn’t suck! How’s that! He just doesn’t! He’s not having a great year, but a lot of QB’s would like to have this be their worst year. It’s logical that with every unit playing poorly, or worse than last year, that the QB would also slip a little. Tannehill may not be the savior, but he’s not the pariah either. Personally, I think he’s far down on the list of problems. If he sucks next year, or more specifically, doesn’t improve next year, with better coaches and a better system, you can ALL tell me to stick it. Until that time, start looking at the big picture, and stop worrying about other QB’s are doing around the league.
Stick it I’m enjoying my Tannehill rants. It cathartic.
How about that Camolina team?
Cam is playing out of his mind. Undeniably the best QB in the NFL. He wasn’t all that great last year, so maybe Tannehill has a magical 5th year? I just don’t want to write him off yet. That’s really the way I feel. I feel like so many people think we have to make a change at QB, and i think it’s wrong.
Sounds good when you say it fast about Cam last year but he started the year with a bad ankle injury started to recover then got in that car crash got better and proceeded to go undefeated in December and hasn’t lost since.
The Panthers are having one of those years where everything is clicking and everyone is contributing. It’s not just Cam though he’s a big part of it.
#camolinaissick
#camolinaonmymind
Mike E. says:
December 20, 2015 at 2:48 pm
Cam is playing out of his mind.
yes he is mike. he has shut down beckham. has held him to just 2 catches i think. and he has basically shut down the giants offense.
Wow Beckham has lost it !!!
Beckham is a little bitch punk today
He needs to get thrown out. That was a straight ip earhole head shot
Yeah head shots matter until a star issues one
Tim Knight says:
December 20, 2015 at 3:07 pm (Edit)
The Panthers are having one of those years where everything is clicking and everyone is contributing. It’s not just Cam though he’s a big part of it.
It’s team chemistry. That elusive thing that makes a group of players play better together than they would individually elsewhere. I don’t think we have a single molecule of it.
Norman isnt innocent but somebody is gonna get seriously hurt
Beckham has thrown at least 4 punches today. Losing a lot of respect for him
Kpants
I am so tired of the Tannehate. I am out
We got a game to watch bud.
Based on my FF most likely lose………we all should have listened to Son on the Newton trade.
Kick my friggging Asssss.
In an ironic twist i have Tannehill vs Brees in semis
And now I can’t even root for you on that. 🙂
I need Lamar huge even to have a chance in one……..maybe they can getting some long slants into TDs going.
Im okay with that 😎
80 yard dump off to Miller for TD and we……sorry Jahn
Darn tootin
It’s Can Newton
Uh oh
Getting interesting
Incomplete
stangerx says:
December 20, 2015 at 3:48 pm
Based on my FF most likely lose………we all should have listened to Son on the Newton trade.
you mean like the suh signing. sorry throw and stuff out there you are bound to get something once in a while
Did Son say trade for Suh? Hurting off Newton’s game today………but you get the idea. And anyhow think Suh is still in the undetermined file.
Mike E, totally agreed. It’s knee-jerk stuff totally with Tannehill and ignoring other glaring issues even though some say they’re not saying that, but they are. LOL
any body got a link to the game
Is Tedd Ginn’s year driving anyone else crazy ?
The fucker has 10 tds !!!!
No, he’s on a team in a great groove. He’s been on 4 different teams including CAR twice, they cut him a couple of years ago. It happens. You guys like to torture yourselves don’t you? LOL
Wow giants tie it up.
Let’s go Dolphins
Les go Tanny…you fuck…lol
Yeah……lets just win and see the young’uns show it all.
Boo yeah. And oink
GO PHINS!!!
I’m going to finish watching the Giants/Panthers game. Not like we ever do anything at the beginning of a game anyway. This game could go a couple of OTs and I won’t miss anything. lol
Oh well, it’s an easy FG.
stangerx says:
December 20, 2015 at 4:20 pm
Did Son say trade for Suh?
why would he say trade for a FA. but he was all for going out and signing him. which has shown to be a horrible move
ok rivers, put up 400 yards and 5 tds. dont let he fins fuck up their draft position
Antonio Gates is wide open on 3rd down????
Shepard’s play lately has me rethinking our LBs
But I think we can upgrade
Then again😟
Well that sux
San Diego hadn’t scored a TD in like 4 games; they get one on their first drive against us. Fuck this stupid fucking team.
Wow, was that pass an easy one.
There’s one rivers, now 4 more.
Gotta luv our Dolphins D….SMH!
The Dolphins game is on:
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And Stills jumped in the air because………….
none of our players play sound fundamental football. They do stupid shit like jumping up to catch a ball that you don’t have to leave the ground for, then you come down out of bounds.