Tom Coughlin for President?
Hue Jackson – Right on brother!
Sean Payton for a 2nd RD pick? Mike Shanahan? Adam Gase? Tom Coughlin? Dan Campbell? Bill Belichick for Suh, Landry, Parker and Tannehill? Hue Jackson? Mike Shula? Teryl Austin? Mike Smith?
Who will be the next head Coach of the Miami Dolphins?
Out of all the options above, and there are sure to be other options in the near future, I actually have 2 favorites from that bunch.
If we’re going with the short term stopgap, and a HC who will give us respectability immediately, and as part of the package, grooms our next HC in Dan Campbell, I’m all for Tom Coughlin. Coughlin is a well respected HC and person in the NFL. Once a fierce disciplinarian type coach, being a military man, Coughlin was a no nonsense man. As HC of the NYG, he felt like he was losing his team, and changed his approach to a more friendlier relationship with his players, and the team responded and went to the Super Bowl and won. Is 70 years old too old? I say hell no! I’ve seen great managers in baseball like Jim Leyland, Jack McKeon succeed in their 70’s, and heck, Ronald Reagan was 70 when he was elected President, and he did a fantastic job running our country.
I like Dan Campbell, but I just don’t think he’s ready to run a team yet. Too many things he’s deficient in, but what a truly great guy to learn from Tom Coughlin would be. A true professional, a winner. Of course, nothing has been documented that Coughlin and or Cambell would agree to this set up, but it seems legitimate to me, and I like it.
If we’re looking for a long term (hopefully), I like Hue Jackson. (I would like Mike Shula too, but as so far, he hasn’t been mentioned as a coach we’re interested in) Jackson wasn’t given a fair shot with the Raiders, he went 8-8, and was fired. Incidentally, Hue’s OC in OAK was Al Saunders, the guy we brought in to “help” our offense after Philbin was fired. Jackson has done good things as OC for the Bengals. Dalton is playing his best football of his career this year, and most believe that is credit due to Hue Jackson. Bengals fans are actually crying for Dalton to play in the playoffs when they clearly all know Dalton is 0-4 in the playoffs.
- Friday January 8th Update! *
Yesterday, the Dolphins interviewed Bears Offensive Coordinator Adam Gase. Supposedly it was a long, thorough interview. That means this week, the Dolphins have interviewed Mike Shanahan, Mike Smith, Teryl Austin and Anthony Lynn. Dan Campbell will make his case today, and Doug Marrone and Hue Jackson will follow this weekend.
Finsmob Unleashed 
I’m staying out of having a favorite because I’m going to support whoever the new HC is anyway and hope our new regime can turn this team around.
A GM’s work starts right away.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/dolphins-blog/sfl-miami-dolphins-sign-eight-development-players-20160105-story.html
I understand, but that doesn’t make for a good article. 😉
LOL, that is true.
I think Tom Coughlin looks very much like a Presidential candidate in that picture from the presser the other day.
Agreed.
LOL @ mike. I like the idea of belicheat for tanny, suh, landry and parker. Throw in a dinner and joes and you gotta deal.
I should have included Reshad Jones too. Silly me!
For those who don’t like Chris Grier being promoted from within as GM just know that he was actually one of the new up and coming GM candidates and has been interviewing for a couple of yeas. So why go outside for the same type of candidate when we already had him? This isn’t for Bat, I know he wanted to cleanse the entire org right up to the bathrooms. LOL
I had no problem with hiring Grier. I’m sure he’s as qualified as anyone else available. We need to get the HC right.
Agreed.
Mike E. says:
January 6, 2016 at 10:04 am
I understand, but that doesn’t make for a good article. 😉
Mike,
When are you planning on writing the GOOD article?….LOL…just kidding as always.
LOL – No plans in the works . . .
Still perplexed by the Saints offering Sean Payton for a 2nd RD pick. Are they really going to keep him if they don’t get any offers?
That’s been my question all a long. If they get no offers they will then turn around and say Sean your our guy?
I know you’ve felt that way. I agree. It seems as if they almost have to let him go whether they get the 2nd or not.
Sounds like the Giants are interested. The phins have inquired about payton.
Who’s interviewing today?
tim will like this.
Per Rapoport, the Dolphins have real interest in ex-Falcons coach Mike Smith, who interviewed for the position on Monday. Miami team executives are performing background work with former coaches and players.
I don’t want to be tied at the hip with Smith as if he’s my pick or only option, I just feel he’s one of the more proven coaches available who has had some success.
Tim
I’m worried that the Browns might steal Terry Collins and name him as their HC.
I had a nightmare about that last night. They also traded for Noah Syndergaard to compete with Johnny Manziel. LOL
LMAO!
It would be worse if the Mets got Manziel
Peyton took his team to the playoffs 5 of 9 seasons, and is 6-4 in the playoffs, along with 1 Super Bowl win. Not too shabby, but he’s also 7-9 the last 2 seasons. He’s never been worse than 7-9 as HC, but with Drew Brees as QB, you shouldn’t be.
When you don’t have the personnel it’s hard to win no matter who you are, even with the QB. Look at the Pats, they’ve lost 4 of their last 6 down the stretch because they’re banged up and don’t have the same personnel they started off 10-0 with.
Bills former RB coach and Asst. HC Anthony Lynn is interviewing today with the Dolphins
He’s probably going through his first time around interviewing as a HC and he’s also a Rooney Rule candidate. I doubt he becomes a HC this year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Lynn
Im with you on most of this Mike. I do think Coughlin would make a solid stop gap coach, but the idea isnt to get a stop gap guy IMO. Coaching transitions are always pretty difficult, so why get someone to get us on our feet again just to pull the rug out in a few years. I dont think you will find a coach, outside of a slim possibility of Sean Payton, that would retain Campbell as an OC, which would make the most sens for him as he is climbing the coaching ladder. I agree that as a position coach, its a LOT likelier that another HC would keep him, but what service does this do for Campbell.
It sounds very unfortunate to me but i see the likelihood of retaining him to be very slim, unless he is forced on whomever takes over as HC. I dont like that scenario because if you want a coach to come in and have the best opportunity for success, you let them assemble their team.
A second possibility is if we go for a guy with little HC experience and possibly no set in stone OC in mind, that that person might go with Campbell for the obvious reasons of familiarity with the team. I think this is also a stretch but im trying to hold out hope, especially for those who really want him to stay on the team.
I prefer going the route of Hue Jackson, he just seems to be the right guy at the right time this year. That is of course subject to change IF some dark horse candidate steps out of the shadows, but right now i think i have him as the best candidate.
I also lean a little towards Mike Smith if we go the route of experience HC, as he has commitments to fundamental football, but yet has shown he can modernize his game plan to be successful in the current NFL. He also focuses, has been a position coach and former player at a position we REALLY need to get stronger at, LB. He was at least partially responsible for the development of Peter Boulware, Jamie Sharper, Adalius Thomas, and more notably Ray Lewis. I think we could see a really strong leap forward with Jenkins under Mike Smith, maybe even Misi, and i would bet one of the first moves by this team after hiring him as coach would be get a strong MLB. His defenses also utilize DT talent properly, which i definitely would like to see us get the most out of a very talent group of guys.
For us to give up a pick teams would have to be completely smitten by Payton or have very little player needs to give up the pick. Like you said, its not likely that the asking price stays that high and as time goes on, the price will drop until someone bites. Me personally i see equivalently talented coaches available, making the pick more valuable to us at the moment.
Id make an offer, but id lowball.
D
I guess Campbell could be TE Coach and Asst Head Coach.
Yeah, something like that definitely might work out.
Good write up Mike
Thanks for doing one
I’ve been really busy with the job change lately so I haven’t really had a chance to do anything new
But expect to see some new wedge scouting reports soon
Id like see some “Just scream BACON!” articles, caricaturing your new life as a hobo defense hero, lawyer with a heart, and every day man’s champion of the law.
That sounds like a tv show I’ve seen before…
No problem Counselor. It;s an exciting time for you man, I wish you the best. Hope your practice grows really fast.
Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero
Saw a tweet (report?) out there saying otherwise but HC candidate Doug Marrone interviewing with Browns Thurs. Dolphins Friday. Giants Sat.
Makes sense, he’s probably top 5 in most circles for the next guy to be considered for HC. Im personally not a fan, that walk out, even on a team i hate, to leave a town i think is awful, bothers me a lot. If ANYONE you should expect a coach not to bail on a team.
He did it because there was clause in his contract if the team fell under new ownership he could opt out. He’s probably not the only guy who would have done that.
D
I think the issue with Marrine was a change of ownership
Also…it’s cold in Buffalo…lol
If you read Twitter sounds like mando hates adam gase
he is advocating for a HC with some experience.
Which I can appreciate
I would prefer experience too
But I probably not going to rip into any prospects candidates
D
To add to the stopgap, and getting a franchise on their feet and pulling the rug – I think if they have Tom Coughlin as HC, with Campbell as an Asst HC, learning and participating in ALL things coaching, the idea would be that when Campbell is ready to take over, it should be a smooth transition from Coughlin to Campbell, as Campbell will just be taking over, with some different ideas possibly, but in general, having learned from Coughlin, a similar overall philosophy.
https://twitter.com/bwebssss13/status/684410213210931205
still have no idea why he didn’t get the probowl nod.
Pro Bowl is a popularity contest. Let’s see if he wins All-Pro, which is really more impressive anyway.
Because its decided by fans not logic
I think I threw up a little in my mouth
I wish all his opinions were behind a pay wall.
I tend to think that the defense being bad statistically really hurt Reshad Jones more than it should have
If iur defense was a good defense I think he would be being talked up
Mike E,
Hue is my guy. Not only has he done well with Dalton but McCarron as well. So much about Tannehill reminds me of Dalton anyway. Hue had a ton ten offense at Oakland as well. I love his arrogance bordering on confidence, lol.
I like him the best out of the coordinators we’re interviewing.
Mike Smith is the only other guy I really like in the pool. Payton without that draft pick.
I don’t quite understand the thinking behind trying to keep Campbell. Is he that great an asset that we need to figure out how to keep him on staff? Most fans didn’t even know who he was before he was made interim HC. I doubt they are giving him serious consideration, regardless of what they say.
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I have nothing against the guy, but I just don’t think his resume warrants a HC job. That doesn’t mean he couldn’t be a good HC someday, but do we have to be the team that goes through his growing pains to get there? Just my opinion.
Good point Randy. I think a little of what has happened with a previous interim HC (Bowles) has colored a bit of the thinking. Normally, you don’t just hire a guy with no coordinator exp, little coaching exp, and little proof of the right connections to get the right people.
bowles learned a lot from bruce arians in arizona.
Yep and he got that much needed Dc experience in both Arizona and Philly. He was also an assistant HC here. Lots more experience coaching than Campbell has.
I don’t get it either. What exactly did campbell do the last 13 weeks that warrants him getting the job full time? The offense didn’t get better. The defense didn’t get better. We had way more penalties than last year. We beat ourselves a lot more.
A player coach is not always good. Discipline usually goes out the door with those coaches. Look at rex ryan coached teams. They’re always leading the league in penalties.
All you have to do is look at the last play of the game against the colts to know that Campbell is not ready to be HC.
wow so fuckboy sinks to a new low. the people that pay him he is now going to torture
Randy says:
January 6, 2016 at 12:59 pm
I don’t quite understand the thinking behind trying to keep Campbell.
it is a lot of what happens when one looks the part and has the right mental attitude. i agree with your comment, i was just speculating as to why some want to keep him so bad.
Boulder,
This team needs discipline. I’m all for any coach who can instill discipline in this group of players.
Caugh, Caugh, Caughlin! 😉
the number of penalties this year were ridiculous. One thing philbin did well was make sure we don’t beat ourselves with stupid penalties.
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ffr
That’s cool. I don’t think folks are just idiotic for considering keeping Campbell or anything. I just don’t see “Head coach candidate” when I look at his accomplishments. That’s fine if others do….or feel he’s shown potential. Part of it for me, is that I’m just more in the mode of getting an experienced HC. I’m done with bringing in guys who have never done it before.
randy,
i didnt mean that either. i dont think folks are being idiotic, far from it. maybe a bit idealistic. hoping a man with no HC experience can save the day or even learn on the job and become the next shula or something.
as far as who they get to coach i am 100% confident that in 3 years half here will be calling for his head and the other half saying we need to be more patient and stop constantly changing coaches.
Randy
it seems clear to me that the someone in the organization feels Campbell has potential. There’s something to it when a guy has a presence, and people respond well to him. I know he’s not ready to be the guy yet, i don’t think I could have made that any clearer, but he might be the type of guy who can learn from a pro’s pro like Coughlin by following him around and learning the daily grind, and then 3 years from now, be ready to take the reins. I don’t think I’m evaluating him by what our record was with him, I think he was clearly in over his head this season, but there are obviously intangibles that make them want to keep him with the team.
Yes, this is the real Csonka writing his opinion below:
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WHY MIAMI NEEDS TO HIRE TOM COUGHLIN
By ZONK Posted January 5, 2016 In Larry’s Blog 5 0
COUGHLIN STEPS DOWN. WILL MIAMI RECOGNIZE THIS GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY?
I was somewhat saddened by the news of head coach, Tom Coughlin, stepping down from the NY Giants. Then, for a brief moment, I was excited at the possibility of Tom becoming the Dolphins head coach!
But then reality set in. Coughlin, like Shula, Belichick and other experienced, successful head coaches, would not consider coming to an NFL team without having complete control of Football Operations. That is to say, having life and death control over their respective players. Without that, there is little or no discipline. Teams like Miami, Cleveland and several others are not, it seems, willing to grant their head coaches that power. And without it, the head coach does not get the respect he needs or deserves, in most cases.
I’m sure some eager offensive or defensive coordinator will jump at the chance to become a head coach in Miami. But the time it takes to put together a winning combination would take too long and could be problematic with so many people involved.
On the other hand, an EXPERIENCED head coach, such as Coughlin, who has done it before and is current with personnel and what’s happening in the League, could and would make it happen much sooner!
I’m sure the Dolphins will soon have a head coach. My hope is we won’t be going through this AGAIN in 2 or 3 years!
Anyone listening?
I don’t think anyone here really knows how qualified Campbell is with the situation he was put in. He had no chance to put together his own staff, philosophy or team together from day one. He took over what it was and it wasn’t good.
Agreed. He might have that IT factor that many coaches don’t. Who knows until he’s had a full offseason & a compliment of coaching staff that he agrees upon.
I can tell ya that Grier talking being physical in his drafts barks right up Campbell’s tree. 😉
Physical is going to be the new philosophy and that’s why Campbell became the interim HC because we weren’t physical enough.
we did nothing better with campbell. I’m not saying he can’t be a good coach. I just think there is higher risk factor with campbell than someone with experience HC or at a minimum calling plays.
We’ve done this now twice. Getting 1st time HCs without any play calling experience and it hasn’t worked out.
Actually winning pct. was better and we had more impressive wins. 🙂
Tim Knight says:
January 6, 2016 at 2:09 pm
I don’t think anyone here really knows how qualified Campbell is with the situation he was put in.
just shows how little you know. everyone here is a football expert and knows everything there is about football and what is wrong with this team. if ross would only read this blog the fins would never lose. oh yeah and they would have a lot of naked lesbian cheerleaders too
Good afternoon.
Who are we grilling today? 🙂
Hickey seemed to mesh well with Grier, so I hope that continues.
They had some physical picks the last 2 years.
Parker, Landry, James, Phillips, Ajayi, Turner, Douglas (guy has brute strength, just needs better technique).
and remember the snap count. 😉
BoulderPhinfan says:
January 6, 2016 at 2:26 pm
we did nothing better with campbell. I’m not saying he can’t be a good coach. I just think there is higher risk factor with campbell than someone with experience HC or at a minimum calling plays.
We’ve done this now twice. Getting 1st time HCs without any play calling experience and it hasn’t worked out.
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Boulder, Campbell not doing anything as you say in your opinion is even more an indictment on the systems installed on offense & defense…IMO.
That;s why both coordinators were let go. He could only tweak it some midstream with green replacements @ coordinators. We saw some good results didn’t we?
Campbell also said he was going to let his coordinators call the plays, showed some confidence in them with lil override.
Campbell is a respected X & O’s guy. True he hasn’t been a coordinator, but he knows the game & he’d want a competent coordinator on both sides of the ball calling plays for his team, as any HC should.
This leaves the HC to concentrate more on other areas that get overlooked…IMO.
Now, I’m posting this as a ongoing discussion. I’m not saying Campbell must be the next HC. He might be ready, or you may be right & he’s not quite there yet.
But either way, whoever is the next HC, they need to have very good coordinators that are on the same page with them.
Look at Coughlin’s defense this year. Spagnuolo didn’t seem to work well with his side of the ball.
Just my random thoughts.
where did you hear that campbell is a respected X & O guy? It actually seemed to me that he let the coordinators do the game planning etc and didn’t get involved with the X & O stuff.
My other issue with campbell was the number of penalties after he took over.
The Flying Pig says:
January 6, 2016 at 12:32 pm
I’ve realized I give you folks too much. Sooooo, from now on the only people getting my opinions freely are those who pay for it.
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LOL, no one else picked up on the irony in that statement. He’s going to give his opinion freely….if its paid for….lol, so truthfully he is giving nothing freely. Part i have issue with is the arrogance to feel he has enough people willing to pay for his opinions that he can make a statement like that. More sad part, he probably does. The world is full of simple sheeps. IT MAKES MAH EYES RAIN!!!
Maybe true with dumb football junkies.
But most of the society’s simple minded sheep are the ones on the Gov dole. They love them freebies and will always vote for the ones saying we’ll take from others so we can give to you. 😉
Bears OC Adam Gase will have a second interview for the Eagles’ head-coaching vacancy this weekend.
Appearing on the radio Wednesday morning, ESPN’s Adam Schefter said, “I do believe that Philadelphia is highly interested in Gase.
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Did Lurie not learn anything from hiring Chip Kelly? I’m kinda surprised by this.
he can have him. I don’t think Gase is all that.
Al in MIA says:
January 6, 2016 at 2:14 pm
Good afternoon.
Who are we grilling today? 🙂
tim
Ian Rapoport ✔ @RapSheet
Sean Payton will remain Saints coach.
Albert Breer ✔ @AlbertBreer
Bengals OC Hue Jackson will interview with the Dolphins and 49ers on Sunday, per source. (Browns too, as @RapSheet reported.)
D,
i get my balls busted on here every time i mention how foolish one has to be to follow that troll and respond to what he says. it is all in good fun so that is cool, but i have no idea why anyone even cares with he tweets or thinks
We feel that same about pausing to read and God forbid respond to your laughable posts. 😀
so it looks like payton is staying in N.O. i bet that gives him a warm fuzzy feeling
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer Jan 4
If the Niners can’t land Sean Payton, my sense is Bengals OC Hue Jackson is the name to watch. Worked with GM Trent Baalke in Washington.
getterdone says:
January 6, 2016 at 3:03 pm
We feel that same about pausing to read and God forbid respond to your laughable posts. :grin
so you are saying i can start charging for them
Campbell is the bro-iest bro’s bro, and the assistant coaches love it.
For some reason, it’s become assumed that NFL head coaches are experts in every facet of the game and that every assistant coach beneath them is just there to carry out the master plan of King Coach. But that’s not always the case. Campbell, well aware he’s not Mr. Know-It-All, has already proven he is able to delegate responsibilities to his staff.
The Vine above says it all — the Dolphins coaching staff feels much more involved working under Campbell.
Just got an alert that says Sean Payton staying in NO.
Randy says:
January 6, 2016 at 1:25 pm
Boulder,
This team needs discipline. I’m all for any coach who can instill discipline in this group of players.
D,
Should be interesting to see if the Saints do shop him or not.
Does Payton even have a say if the Saints find a suitor?
He just said he doesn’t want to coach anywhere else in his career. I’d be really funny if the saints trade him now.
Doesn’t Payton have to agree to it? What if he said, never mind I’ll retire?
Kinda weird to be staying in NO when the Benton family is clearly on the outs with you & each other. I guess they now want him to stay to keep Brees happy.
Ronald Reagan was 70 when he was elected President, and he did a fantastic job running our country.right into the ground.
There I fixed it for you.
Spoken like a true commie. 😉
I was actually surprised to hear that Grier has been with the team for so many years! I had always assumed that when a new GM came in (we have has so many) that they always brought their own scouting department,etc. I guess that is not the case and the new GM’s utilize the existing scouting departments often. (often enough that Grier has been here through 5 – 6 GM’s! )
errand boy. 😉
I must say Teryl Austin intrigues me.
The Lions D started off slow this year but they finished strong. They were stout last season.
Austin been to 3 super bowls as a coach (DB coach for Seattle in 06; DB coach for Zona in 09; DB coach for Ravens in 11).
He had a DC stint with the Florida Gators during Urban Meyer’s last season there prior to being one with Detroit the last 2 seasons.
I doubt very much NO give up Sean Payton for a pick or fires him this season. Unless they already have someone lined up as a replacement they would be shooting themselves in the foot. Let’s say they do not want to keep him on. They will have to wait until all the trade stuff goes through and Payton agrees to join the new team and comes to a contract agreement in principle.
UNLESS they have someone on the hook waiting this would put them behind the 8 ball because if they can’t trade him and wind up having to release him from his contract (fire him) they will have missed out on the other candidates by then…..
Then they just hire Tony Sporano.
Interesting stat from beasley
“Since 2012, coaches hired in the first week of a team’s search have had more success than those who took longer to land a job. They have won 53 percent of their games, and 60 percent went on to make the playoffs in their first two years.”
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article53328885.html#storylink=cpy
Meh, a 4 year window hard to really gather much from that.
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley
My guess is one of these four will be the next coach of the Dolphins. Just not sure of the order: Shanahan, Jackson, Gase and Marrone.
I’d say Gase is out & Coughlin in that same spot & Mike Smith should be over Marrone I’d think.
Wyoming, LB Terrell Manning & OG Anthony Steen are the ones I like best of those names that were signed to futures contracts.
Steen i think is going to be a good OG prospect for us. He was a stud at Alabama. I would have loved if they had brought him up that last game and let him at least rotate in at an OG spot.
Yeah, I liked him pre-draft.
BoulderPhinfan says:
January 6, 2016 at 3:28 pm
He just said he doesn’t want to coach anywhere else in his career. I’d be really funny if the saints trade him now.
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Tim Knight says:
January 6, 2016 at 3:39 pm
Doesn’t Payton have to agree to it? What if he said, never mind I’ll retire?
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Wouldnt stop the trade. Only thing that would stop the trade would be a no trade clause in his contract. He also likely has contract termination clauses which means those would transfer as well. I would assume a team in hopes of protecting their ivestments have both buy out language for the case that he leaves to coach another team, which the receiving team would be responsible for, potentially some buy out language with him being personally responsible for some of it. They also have retirement clauses that if he decided to retire prior to the endo of the contract a certain amount may be have to be paid back to the team. If this is true it might prevent him from going that option, or at least severely deter him from doing it. It would potentially affect the trade if he announced it to the team making the trade, but again, i wouldn’t doubt that there would be financial repercussions for that action as well. This is a business after all, legally i bet they have most those avenues covered.
If Payton told the Saints he doesn’t want to coach another team and they traded him anyway it would be douchey to begin with and no team is going to trade for him to begin with without interviewing him or him saying he’s interested. So my reply was to what Boulder said. It wouldn’t happen without him being on board. It’s not like trading a player.
So the Top 4 HC candidates with HC’ing experience would be:
Coughlin, Shanahan, Smith, & Jackson.
BoulderPhinfan says:
January 6, 2016 at 3:50 pm
Interesting stat from beasley
“Since 2012, coaches hired in the first week of a team’s search have had more success than those who took longer to land a job. They have won 53 percent of their games, and 60 percent went on to make the playoffs in their first two years.”
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article53328885.html#storylink=cpy
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Think about it this way, teams if they are smart interview their top guys first, unless of course they are restricted from interviewing a guy who is involved in the playoffs. So the first week SHOULD be the top guys on your list, and hiring them within the first week means they likely had a lot of suitors, so really those hired in the first week are in multiple teams top 5. Those guys should pan out, multiple team research staff’s all coming to the same conclusion about them.
makes sense
Rockphin says:
January 6, 2016 at 3:34 pm
I was actually surprised to hear that Grier has been with the team for so many years! I had always assumed that when a new GM came in (we have has so many) that they always brought their own scouting department,etc. I guess that is not the case and the new GM’s utilize the existing scouting departments often. (often enough that Grier has been here through 5 – 6 GM’s! )
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A few things about Grier’s family.
Grier’s father, Bobby, was with the Patriots organization from 1981 – 1999 having served 3 years as a scout, 8 years as positional coach, and 7 years in the front office as a personnel guy. He was director of player personnel in the mid 90s under Parcells staff and stayed on in that capacity through the Pete Carroll years until fired in favor of Scott Pioli.
**And whether it played a role or not, according to ESPN’s documentary “The Brady 6”, Bobby Grier was the only NFL exec to have contacted Michigan Coach Lloyd Carr about Tom Brady prior to the draft (Grier was let go 2 weeks later LOL).
Bobby then took a job with the Texans as director of pro scouting as soon as the franchise was formed and has been there ever since and is now just a senior advisor after leaving his director of player personnel post in 2011.
Grier’s brother is former NHL player Mike Grier.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/27833/one-nfl-exec-called-michigan-about-brady
The last few sentences in the link above are funny. Mike says he grew up a Pats fan (his brother probably did too given they grew up in that area due to the father’s job there) but that he can’t root for them anymore given that his brother is with the Fins LOL.
BoulderPhinfan says:
January 6, 2016 at 3:53 pm
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley
My guess is one of these four will be the next coach of the Dolphins. Just not sure of the order: Shanahan, Jackson, Gase and Marrone.
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Eh, either Jackson or Shanahan.
Fuck Gase & Marrone.
He loves Vegas though. LOL
I saw that….lol
lol
The Eagles will interview Giants OC Ben McAdoo for their head-coaching vacancy on Thursday.
McAdoo is also in the running to replace Tom Coughlin with the Giants. Eli Manning badly wants McAdoo to stay in New York, but the Giants are going through the interview process with multiple candidates. McAdoo interviewed for the gig on Tuesday. The Giants finished 10th and eighth in total offense in McAdoo’s two seasons on the job. It’s a high-paced scheme.
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This is a name kinda overlooked, under the radar.
Good point. It wasn’t McAdoo’s fault the Giants D ate a big fat one all the time.
The only annoying part of McAdoo’s offense this season was the reliance on a RB by committee approach.
If he comes here he HAS to rid him self of that disgusting porn stache. He was a potential candidate for us at OC when we got Lazor. I dont know i want him as a HC but id take him as an OC once they clear out Coughlins coaching staff.
McAdoo has been talked about for weeks in Ginats country. The believe here is McAdoo will become the HC, retain Spagnola as the HC then hire an offensive asst. because he calls the plays.
Probably a win win for us. If they go a different direction as far as a HC, the McAdoo will likely get flushed with the rest of Coughlins staff, we could get him at his previous position as OC. If the Giants retain him as HC, then thats one less competitor for other coaching candidates.
He comes from the McCarthy tree and unlike Philbin (McAdoo was a QB coach in GB his last two years there), he got a chance to call games as an OC with the Giants the last two season lol.
Wow!
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/would-lions–calvin-johnson-really-consider-retiring-at-age-30–194157429.html
Some say McAdoo could follow Coughlin here should TC get hired.
Then of course go get someone that can run a damn Defense. 😉
The Giants defense is a personnel issue. Spags is a good DC.
I haven’t heard that.
McAdoo isn’t a Coughlin guy either, ownership forced McAdoo on Coughlin. That’s not the offense Coughlin runs.
Then Coughlin and macadoo will bring ODell Beckham with him. Boom Landry reunion. Dynasty baby.
LOL, but for a lil rookie contractual problem there.
Not when we trade them tanny.
BOOM!
Trade them Tanny, oh kool. Then who’ll throw the ball to the twins?
Bob Griese or Earl Morrall.
Bob’s passes are wobbly drunk floaters & Earl’s passes are completely lifeless.
TC, McAdoo, Schwartz would be a pretty solid HC/OC/DC pairing.
I’m not a fan of Spags, personnel issues aside. All teams have some.
The Giants might have the worst personnel on defense in the league.
Coughlin didn’t hire McAdoo, ownership forced McAdoo on Coughlin because they wanted him to change the offense.
The Titans have requested to interview Jaguars director of player personnel Chris Polian for their general-manager vacancy.
Chris is the son of Hall of Fame GM Bill Polian. Chris’ brother, Dennis, works in the Titans’ front office. Polian has been the director of player personnel in Jacksonville for the past three seasons and has been with GM Dave Caldwell for years. Polian was the GM in name only for the Colts from 2009-2011 under Bill, who had control over the 53-man roster as president.
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Nice to inherit the golden spoons in life…..lol
GD, we could get to throw them the ball. Save 16mil a year 🙂
lol i forgot about the bracket things… it said we could get …insert name here… to throw them the ball.
Seriously though, if he couldnt win with those guys id have to call him Zach Mettenberger.
We’d still be upgrading regardless.
You too now I see….LOL smh
Was looking over the season record & the Phins ultimately played 4 games against teams now officially in the playoffs.
We went 3-1 against those teams. Wash, Hou, & NE.
ManCampbell was responsible for 2 of those wins & 1 loss.
Now if we could just beat the other non-playoff teams…lol
Phins seem to always play up & definitely DOWN to their competition.
Walker had an article about going 3-1 against playoff teams. Let’s see we beat Wash in the opener when they sucked and we were worse, be beat Hou. when they sucked and we had all the fire of a new coach, and we beat the Cheats in a game they didn’t seem to care to win (running the ball on 16 of 18 plays), and we got crushed by the Cheats when we were playing our best ball of the yr.
My take is 3-1 looks good only because the jets and bills didn’t make the playoffs.
Ryan Tannehill (15,460) joined Hall of Famers Marino and Griese as the only players in franchise history with 15,000+ career passing yards.
Not much of an accomplishment by itself, and with today’s rules, it’s even less. Only thing I can say for sure is he’s had stability.
LOL, you guys are too much.
He’s had 4 years & 1 of few QB’s in the current era to pass over 3K+ each of his 1st 4 years.
We can only hope he keeps it up, but gets more from a running game & a top 10 defense, then the Wins will come…IMO.
Tannehill hasn’t done anything yet in his career to show he can be a franchise QB. He’s got the skill set, but as evidenced recently by the ending of the Colts game he sucks when we need him to do something to win a game for us, whether we have the lead or trail by one score.
WTF? He drove the Phins down the field with time running out to win the Colts game. Is he responsible for Douglas botching the snap count? Or the OL failing to block on the previous downs?
Ok, Tanny sucks & hasn’t done nothing. I get it….lol
About time lol
LOL thanks sb7, thanks so much.
MikeE,
Sorry, I wasn’t really commenting on your thoughts on Campbell. I was just responding to the conversation that’s gone on around here for awhile. If they wanna keep Campbell and develop him, that’s a viable decision. I think there are issues with that too, but if they like him…keep him.
Steve, what makes you think Washington sucked when we played them, because they were projected to suck? They went onto win their next game and 2 out of their next 3. Only us and the Cowboys beat them at home. You can play the they were this and we were that game all day. We still beat them.
Sooooo….how many of us have powerball tickets for tonight? 😉
Half a Billion dollars. If you win will you marry me?
Don’t run away dear. 😉
I bought a few tix myself. It’s more money than 1 person really deserves. Man I could help so many. Might even by the team from Ross. lol 🙄
herd,
Is it big?
Ya know, parcell’s was probably onto something when he said you are what your record says you are. One single win or loss during the season doesn’t tell what sort of team you were. Your final record does. Our record says we sucked. Lol
Robert Herron was a great WR at Wyoming!
A little on the small side for the NFL!
He had some good numbers I remember pre-draft. Also very speedy @ the combine wasn’t he?
He was pretty fast.
sometimes there is a reward for the ones that do things right. congrats to griffey jr
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/griffey-elected-to-hall-of-fame-with-highest-percentage-piazza-in/ar-AAgrGpl?li=BBnb7Kz
Jason La Canfora ✔ @JasonLaCanfora
The Fins will make a strong, strong push for Adam Gase I’m told. Been locked on him for a while. Will try to keep from getting back to PHI.
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I hope he’s blowing smoke….sheesh
Randy says:
January 6, 2016 at 7:27 pm
Ya know, parcell’s was probably onto something when he said you are what your record says you are.
about the only think that fat fuck has ever been onto is the buffet line
You are so off on him as a football guy because it didn’t work out well here. The reality is if you sat down with most football people and said what you say about him they’d call you an idiot. Just saying. I’m not saying you’re an idiot, but they would. LOL
We really shouldn’t rack our brains too much on this HC search. Whoever it is, all that matter are results. Maybe we finally find the next big HC and he wasn’t some fancy coordinator. There is more to it than that.
Who the hell was John Harbaugh or Andy Reid when they were hired? They were position and asst. coaches, not coordinators. They come from all walks of football. There are many examples.
Ahh, the voice of calm & reason,
by Tim Knight
LOL, when you do your research and realize why some of these coaches are being interviewed, you should realize there is a reason. Dan Campbell falls into this category. 🙂
getterdone says:
January 6, 2016 at 6:16 pm
WTF? He drove the Phins down the field with time running out to win the Colts game.
getter, i like your love and endless defense of tanny. but there are just as many games he didnt drive the team down the field. i dont think he is the main problem with this team, but he also isnt the solution yet
He’s a QB that a team can be built around. That’s why he got paid.
Guess we’ll see with better systems & play calling, a running game, a defense that can stop the run, and an actual OL.
getter
him getting paid doesn’t prove a thing. the paid some guy on defense and this defense got worse.
but i do agree with you about the ‘Guess we’ll see with better systems & play calling, a running game, a defense that can stop the run, and an actual OL.’
we will find out one way or another. hopefully in a great way
tim
so i got this right. i am an idiot for what i say about fatfuck, but he is a genius cause he said you are what your record says you are. hmmmm, i wonder what his record was then he was fatczar. but hey, the guy had all sorts of great sayings to bad he never won a fucking thing since 1990
i am sorry if i am not impress with some guy who had a run of one or two good years when he was just a coach then when he got to run it all he couldnt do a thing.
if that is what it takes to be impressed by someone i will wear my idiot cap proudly
You just repeated the same type of thing. An opinion isn’t always right. My opinion to your post about Parcells on a blog is, you’re way off. That’s what we do here. When did having to agree have anything to do with it? You can say whatever you want man, but it has consequences. You may end up in the comfy chair. 🙂
What’s the deal with the Gase rumors
Why even express interest in the bet coaches if you want to hire Gase
Tannenbaum touched on that and said, we’ll learn a lot about what these coaches think about our team whether we like it or not. It’s a huge focus group type evaluation. Then gravitate to the guy that seems to fit with everyone. Who that will be, no idea! LOL
Pants suck
Gase gives me a very Philbin like feeling. I don’t like it, but I’ll wait and see what actually happens.
Why in the world would you say that Mike???
LOL, how so? I really don’t know Gase’s personality or much about him other than what we all know as far as where he’s been and what positions he’s held. Why is he such a hot candidate in NFL circles though?
I don’t know, maybe I want the HC to look more like a ballplayer himself. Be a little more of an intimidating presence
The Flying Pig says:
January 6, 2016 at 8:51 pm
Pants suck
that explains this
tim
wait, you mean here we are only talking about opinions. better not tell jahn.
(and i got that, my opinion is parcells has not done anything to warrant him as some great football mind)
Why in the world would you say that Mike???
Ask yourself this, do any of you think you know the coaching fraternity better than any NFL team, not just the org in MIA? Well maybe CLE, they just hired a Mets exec. LOL
Absolutely! lol
I heard we’re also looking at a CHL scout from Medicine Hat, Alberta to become our Asst. GM to Grier. It’s all about being creative. LOL
So now we’re profiling? LOL
I didn’t see any pictures of him picking up trash off of the field so they haven’t proven anything to me yet
Mike E. says:
January 6, 2016 at 9:21 pm
I don’t know, maybe I want the HC to look more like a ballplayer himself. Be a little more of an intimidating presence
and thus why campbell has so many fans.
Coughlin looks like a football player?
He played with Larry fuckin Csonka at Syracuse. LOL
Mike E wants Dan ‘fuckin’ Campbell as a HC, not some Opie looking mathafucka!!! LOL
Ditto. I want a Sarge to kick ass & tell the players this is how it’s gonna be. Not some milk toast dweeb!
LMAO!!!
Tim Knight says:
January 6, 2016 at 9:18 pm
Ask yourself this, do any of you think you know the coaching fraternity better than any NFL team, not just the org in MIA?
omg tim, come on. why in the world do you think sites like these exist. i said the other day i call jimbo fisher dumb fisher. the fucker just won a national championship. but i am a fan, i dont have to know more then him, i get to say anything i want and look like a fool doing it. if jimbo wants too then he doesnt get to be a coach he has to join the blog and just bitch.
Come on dude, I’m mixing football commentary and joking. You left out the CLE joke. LOL