Guess what time of year it is!
Its time for the NFL Combine!
Time to get obsessed with 40 times and bench presses.
Vertical Jumps and Broad Jumps!
Cone Drills and Shuttle Runs!
Here’s the complete schedule!
Wednesday, Feb. 24
» Media interviews for running backs, offensive linemen and special teamers
Thursday, Feb. 25
» Media interviews for quarterbacks, wide receivers and tight ends
Friday, Feb. 26
» Media interviews for defensive linemen and linebackers
» On-field workouts for running backs, offensive linemen and special teamers
Saturday, Feb. 27
» Media interviews for defensive backs
» On-field workouts for quarterbacks, wide receivers and tight ends
Sunday, Feb. 28
» On-field workouts for defensive linemen and linebackers
Monday, Feb. 29
» On-field workouts for defensive backs
Some players I think are worth watching:
Two Ohio State Athletes:
The very fast Braxton Miller
And the Best Running Back in this Year’s Class, Ezekiel Elliot
Physical Freak of Nature Shawn Oakman
Track Athlete Jalen Ramsey, who may not wow in the 40 yard dash, but is expected to wow in everything else.
And Robert Nkemdiche, who better use the combine as a place to erase some of his red flags in the mind of many NFL scouts.
Its going to be a lot of fun!
Enjoy!!!
Finsmob Unleashed 
First? I don’t know why but this year I just don’t care about the combine
You son of a bitch!
Actually I agree
I’m a little less enthusiastic abiut it this year
I’m guessing it’s bc I’m not even looking at wrs
And not really looking at RBs
So I don’t care about 40 times much
What about CB’s, DE’s, and LB’s? You don’t care about 40 times? Cone drills? Vertical jump? I do baby, I love that stuff!
Yeah what about the jello molds with legs running the 40….I mean OL.
I’m always excited about the combine. I’m looking forward to it. It doesn’t tell you everything, but it can tell you if a LB can be a 3 down LB, or if he just doesn’t have the speed and agility to play in coverage. So many other things, but, it can also artificially pump up a player who doesn’t show up on film.
LOL D-Bolt
I don’t want to see the fatties run, but I do want to see what they can do with the bench press. I don’t want a fatty who can’t BP more than a WR.
LMAO!!!! I was reading an article about Cespedes and the different cars he’s shown up in for Mets spring training, I wanted to see a picture of the car he drove today, and Alfa Romeo. Check out the comments at the bottom of the article
http://deadspin.com/yoenis-cespedes-is-driving-a-different-ridiculous-car-t-1760997516
The reply to the first comment almost made me spit out my coffee
LMAO!!!
You no like this Mike?
In general I think for defensive players the 40 yard dash is even less important
I think it’s a bit overrated
With LBs I don’t care about their 40 speed at all
Piggy – In general, the 40 speed for a LB is not huge, unless it’s so slow, it makes you worry. Paul Dawson running a 4.94 hurt him, and rightfully so.
Yeah
you don’t want a LB to be slower than a nose tackle
But we are talking extremes
In other words, unless a LB runs sub 4.4, or above a 4.8, it’s all good.
LBs speed wise….if they keep it below 4.9 I think you’re ok.
I think the 40 is very prevalent to Defensive Ends, Safeties, and corners. LB’s I think you just want to see them avoiding false steps and good flexibility in their hips.
D-Bolt
That’s not for public consumption. lol
You like it😂
Tim
“Small and bad” killed me! WTF! LOL
LOL, does he mean naughty?
I have no idea, but it cracked me up
The 40 is really just to test how well these guys can move their body. From start to finish, is their first step sluggish, do they accelerate and pick up speed as they run. It tells you a little bit about them as an athlete.
The 20 yard shuttle is really good to see their explosiveness, how quickly they can move
Yes, that is where Julian Edelman excelled and it shows on the field.
Looking at last nights comments, you do realize Brothers plays almost exactly like Scooby, they are both highly instinctual aggressive and sure tacklers. Brothers is black and thats about the only difference as far as comparing them to Thomas. I prefer Brothers personally because he isnt coming off an injury.
Like I said I’d take either in round 2 and not look back.
40 yard dash is a completely over-glorified stat. Even with receivers and DB’s its over-glorified. Landry had a bad 40 but is a brilliant route runner who accelerates through his breaks and gets seperation easily without elite speed. Amari Cooper doesnt have elite speed.
A lot of DB’s that wear their receives like gloves dont have elite speed, they have great instincts and know the routes as good as the receivers and have great closing speed. In fact if a high 40 time has anything to do with a CB’s ability its recovering from bad coverage, so when they bite on a double move and the dude is 10 yards behind them it gives them a chance on a deep route to catch up. Otherwise its not that big of a deal.
I look at it as important in pursuit for a DB, not just recovery.
Yeah Mike i think the shuttle drills and cone drills are better overall representations of a players abilities and quickness. Straight line speed numbers also dramatically change when you add the weight from the pads, a lot of those straight line numbers arent even a factors of what they will be in pads. Some guys with 4.3 speed without pads can be 4.5 with and some guys at 4.5 without can keep that 4.5 with pads, its all about their weight distribution and lower body mass/strength.
How do you carry your speed in pads is exactly correct!
Unfortunately, they will likely never measure the players with helmets and pads, because they have to keep it the same for comparison purposes. Maybe they can do both, but they can’t change it completely.
As much as people want to believe 40 times don’t mean much, it does have value.
Players have gotten drafted on the heels of fast 40 times etc.
Dontari Poe tested will in many areas including the 40 time which helped vault him to #12 overall.
Heyward-Bey gave Al Davis wood with his 40 time and was selected high.
Stephen Hill was another bum (still drafted high because of speed and vertical ability)
People questioned whether Luke Keuchley is worthy of a top 10 selection and everyone was looking for him to run very close to 4.60 or better which he did (4.58). Had he run a 4.70, there’s a high probability he would have gone lower.
dbolt48 says:
February 25, 2016 at 10:10 am
I look at it as important in pursuit for a DB, not just recovery.
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Well yeah on fly/go routes but for most part you dont have teams running those as much anymore. The days of speed being the most attractive trait are very close to being completely gone. Offense can be more complex now with athletes that come in all shapes and sizes, and with the advent of these beastly DE’s and DT’s you dont get the time for a receiver to really blow by a guy and get open. Its increasingly becoming more and more rare and so is the need to ooooh and aaaaaah at that particular stat.
To me the 40 time tells you this, max potential and also if a guy is lazy. If you don’t run a good time when people expect a certain score based on what they see on film, they often wonder about work ethic and preparation mentality.
People can give a pass when there is a known injury
dbolt48 says:
February 25, 2016 at 10:11 am
How do you carry your speed in pads is exactly correct!
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More like how fast you react to what’s going on in the field of play matters most.
S Chris Clemons tested close to a 4.30 time in the 40 drill and clearly did not play that fast in games. Why? The guy was slow in reacting to plays.
For DB, I like looking at 3-cone drill times (same for interior OL who are expected to be ZBS types).
Al
That’s the thing man, an instinctive LB who runs a 4.8 might anticipate where the play is going to be, and shoot a gap and make a play, while the 4.5 guy is standing back on his heels, and gets engulfed by an OG. Play sped is huge, and that’s something you can only get by watching film.
Jackie Shipp vs. Zach Thomas
Yup
For pass rushers, I like to see good vertical scores. It represents explosion ability off the line. Many passed on Cam Wake in the draft but he had a ridiculous 45″ vertical scored at the combine. Should have been taken just on that as a late round flyer (I’ve heard GM talk about that after RD 5, they just start to take chances on guys who have high athleticism and see if anything materializes).
Instantaneous explosion like he drank a gallon of murilax
For DE’s and LB’s, I think the broad jump can also be a good indication of their explosiveness.
There’s generally a good correlation with vertical scores and broad jump scores.
Mike,
Yep, some guys react off the 1st step a guy takes, some guys it takes them 3-4 steps to realize what happens and by then the guy with 3-4 steps has gone up to full speed while the other person is just starting to get up to speed.
Instincts and true knowledge and understanding of the game trump pure speed. It’s nice though if you can get both, and sometimes you can.
Look at a few ILBs drafted by the 49ers.
Bowman ran a 4.77 at the combine
Borland ran a 4.83
Both had elite instincts though.
True, but Bowman ran a 4.62 at his pro day after the combine. He had a similar showing as Sean Lee, another PSU LB with good instincts (ran a 4.80 at combine then 4.60 at pro day). Borland ran a 4.8 at both combine/pro day
I just posted the combine numbers because we know how pro day numbers work. Landry damn near a 4.8 at the combine, but ran in the 4.5’s at his pro day.
Al, the late rounds are often used on raw athletic guys or overachievers with good game tape. You want to marry both of those in the higher rounds.
Yep.
Landry had a hamstring injury at the combine.
Whatever he ran then is moot now, there is no doubt his offseason training last year improved his explosiveness and speed. You could see it on the field. Add that to his competitiveness and football instincts and you have an excellent player.
Al im definitely not saying that people dont use it to evaluate a player and put some weight on having a good 40 time. Im saying though its not as heavy a weighting as previous and rightly so. 40 time is not a great evaluator or almost any position, you are right it might say “hey this guy is an athletic freak and give you some idea of top end potential, but i also think it doesn’t really do that as accurately as the sum of the performances as a whole and a lot of time, way too much weight is put on that value vs some of the other ones. My personal feeling is the results oc cone and shuttle are way more important in today’s NFL.
I think most of the time you can see on on the field
The number running the 40 is not so valuable if it doesn’t show up On the field
I don’t mean to poo in the 40
I just think it’s bragging rights about the fastest guy
More often than not, it doesn’t go hand in hand with a good football player
How does one poo in the 40? LOL
Tim,
I was just reading something else last night about the Bosas and was surprised to find out that Eric Kumerow is the uncle of Joey Bosa (John Bosa’s wife is the sister of Eric Kumerow). Man, talk about a family curse on the Dolphins :/.
Yeah we posted about that with pictures.
I’ve seen a guy face plant (Shamarko Thomas) while running the 40, but never seen a guy poo. lol
Also as i said before, thin wiry guys may put up BLAZING fast numbers without pads, but the weight of the pads accounts for a higher percentage of their total body weight so adding 15 lbs to one guys frames isnt the same as adding 15 to another’s. It can affect your shuttle and cone, but its less apparent and shuttle and cone tell you this guy has football skills much more than 40. 40 tells you he is a track star, not football player.
Its really more about how they play with pads on. I heard someone refer to the combine as the underwear Olympics the other day, i laughed my ass off lol, but its kinda true. It would be like seeing how fast a firefighter can climb a ladder and knowing he would be great despite the fact he was climbing it in his boxer shorts. This isnt the clothes they are going to be wearing when how good they are counts the most.
LOL Al you just pulled a Tim there, where the fuck did you find that lol
Piggy,
Scouts I think like to see that a guy can run as fast as he does on film. When there is a disparity in either a positive or negative direction, they wonder if a guy is playing up to potential (theoretical top end speed vs actual speed). I think also coaches always feel they can coach a guy up to be anything while you can’t necessarily improve significantly in things like speed / jumping ability.
I for one will not get overly excited for or depressed by any guy’s 40. If its the last item to evaluate two people side by side, then fine, but i would not for example say Cyrus Jones is better than Jalen Ramsey because his 40 time is way better, and its likely to be that way. Im not going to say Alexander is a better coverage CB than Hargreaves just because of a better 40 time, which again i wouldnt doubt might be true, because it isnt the full picture.
There are expected 40 times for height and weight. It’s when it’s extreme one way or the other that becomes a big deal. If a 6-5 320 guy runs a 4.7 everyone is like wow!!! If a 6-0 200 guy runs a 5.0 you get oh boy he’s slow.
I think they should do all the skill drills (minus BP) in full pads.
Tim that picture is disturbing, but it kinda looks like a skinny smaller version of Elway shitting himself so pluses for that.
I wouldn’t call it disturbing as much as I would say gross. LOL
This is disturbing.
wow, lol
Pulled something out the family album this time huh Tim?
LOL!
Cha cha cha chia! LMAO!!!
Whatever man. Having a bunch or really insanely nice and cool cars doesn’t mean you have a small dick. I’m sick of this shit. I drive a really awful car and my dick is small and bad. LOL
asked the wife how was the longest vacation we ever took and she replied too short like your dick.
LOL 🙂
No it doesnt but damn do you want to believe that along with all those nice cars he also got blessed with Ron Jeremy’s schlong too. Its not fair for one man to have so many things without trying to tear them down for it. Like Brady….i hope that fucker has a dick so tiny it doesnt make it past Giselle’s labia.
Im not going to care if a DT/DE gets a 10 minute 40 if in mid run he stops to rip the head off one of the judges, shits down the neck hole, takes him lunch and enjoys a nice picnick before getting back up and jogging the rest of the 40 because ill be too busy imagining him doing that to Brady to care much what the time was.
takes his lunch….
This is where the good times are. LOL
Poor little kid. She gets to look forward to looking like a blend of those two.
He’d freak out if you knocked one of his soldiers off the mantle. The night would end and the good times would be over. LOL
Those are nutcrackers Tim, and year he would be upset, each and every one reminds him of his wife!
I bet that guy drives a REALLY nice car.
I bet that runner drives a car with a brown drivers seat
I think the combine is a complete hype machine for the NFL anymore. It’s a way of them to keep people interested in their product in the off season. I think fans, in general, put way too much emphasis on it, but it’s all we got at this point in the year.
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That said, it does give you information about potential employees…and that’s not a bad thing. I would guess the NFL people value the interviews more than the drills. What I think you have to be wary of is letting combine performances inform your final opinion of a player. It’s just a piece of the puzzle, and I always give what i see on the field more credence than what I see at the combine. I use the combine to kind of verify or illuminate a question mark I may have in a guy that I wasn’t able to come to a conclusion on by watching him play. Then, I’d use my interviews to find out whether or not this is a guy I want in my locker room….which I think is very valuable…because it may be my only in-depth contact with that particular player.
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Metrics are great…and they can be informative….but they don’t define a player. Plenty of combine studs aren’t studs on the field.
Randy
I think everything about the NFL is a hype machine, the regular season included. That’s why they’re #1 in sports. Most hype.
http://rs52.pbsrc.com/albums/g1/josegallardo1/crazycumber.gif~c200
Randy, I can’t remember who said it but a personnel guy said you already have your grades on prospects heading into the combine and not much will change except for extremes one way or the other.
MikeE,
Very true, and we all eat it up. Although i will admit this team has dampened my interest the past couple years. I haven’t seen a second of the combine stuff this year so far, and that’s kinda strange for me.
Tim,
I would agree with that. If you don’t already have a really good idea of what sort of player a guy is from your own scouting and tape review, then you better hire some new scouts and personnel. Lol
Randy
Nothing to see yet with the combine. I think the drills start today, and run through Sunday.
Its supposed to be TE’s OL. and ST players today for BP and some ST/PK skill drills.
MLB has changed the rule that a runner cannot target the fielder in the base path in the attempt to break up the double play. They have to target the base.
They are going to argue that sliding straight on to the bag is going to cause injuries, dollars to doughnuts.
Who’s going to argue? It’s not that complex. You know when a guy is going out of his way to target the fielder. When a guy steals a base does he almost go into the outfield to get there? It’s pretty simple.
Yeah but lets say its not that extreme and a person slides to the side of the bag and the SS/2B is on that side? is that targeting the infielder or do you think it will only be for extreme cases? To me targeting the bag means your slide is straight on the bag and that is how a lot of players get hurt. Im not saying i dont think something should be done, im just saying the players association likely makes sure its more clear than that at the least if not calling for the rule to be removed due to the chance for injury going straight on the bag.
Randy i agree with that, i think Combine is a glorified meet an greet, and probably more for fans who are microscopically analyzing the prospects. Scouts know before combine if they like a prospect, especially a high draft round guy.
I think it might help people choose between a guy, if they are close on them, like do they have Hargreaves as no 1 CB or Alexander as no 1, etc. but again, you are still basically not determining if a guy is a round 1 or two from it, you are just fine tuning your already made draft board.
The interviews i think is where major shifts happen. Like with McCarron, he came in and stunk up the interview process, dropped a couple rounds because of it. Some come in and just shine, hell RG3 and his combine interviews had me sold that he was worth number 2 overall pick (was very wrong but still he grabbed a lot of points with people).
Tim the extreme changes will either come from medical evaluation, failed drug tests or failed interviews. I doubt man of the scores people get int he actual events will sway people much. In fact BP may be the one that has the most affect because it will show if they are a workout warrior or not, might shine a light on a lazy streak if they arent competitive in that event.
many of the scores…
Yes mostly that but the drills could also show a guy is a much better athlete than they originally thought, or much worse.
Right but none of the scores are going to make a person go………
D
I like the rule. It’s really not much different than the running into the catcher rule. It’s been part of the game forever, but I honestly don’t miss it. A play at the plate is still an exciting play, as is a double play. No need to go 3 feet out of the base paths to take out the fielder.
I agree i have seen some really obvious examples of it, to where the runner was doing it on purpose with attempt sometimes to injure. Lenny Dykstra was one of the worst.
Interesting rumor of Miami tagging OV then trading him.
One of those things i think gets brought up a lot but very rarely has any merit. It really doesnt make a lot of sense though.
@JordanRaanan: Of interest to #Giants –>> #Dolphins may franchise then trade Olivier Vernon, per sources https://t.co/XEGWrRMNyD https://t.co/ROAE6fho94
I didnt doubt the rumor lol, just the validity of it 🙂
D,
I’d give validity to it do to the fact Grier is from the Bellicheat tree who used to do stuff like this.
D, the way I heard it is it will be a interpretation that will be reviewed. Sliding to the outside only using one hand on the bag while wildly swinging your legs at the center fielder won’t be tolerated. LOL
LOL @ D
If a 6-4 300 lineman only does 4 reps of 225 that would make a person go… LOL
Might make a few people go……..
He looks in the mirror and says “that’s exactly what I was going for because I’m a freak!!!”
If someone favorite WR ran a 4.6 they would go…………
Actually looks like Jeff Ireland w/ makeup
LMAO!!!
LOL kinda does. Maybe thats what he has been reduced to….
Tim
Sliding into 3rd base while taking out 6 players in the visiting dugout will also not be tolerated. lol
dbolt48 says:
February 25, 2016 at 2:22 pm
D,
I’d give validity to it do to the fact Grier is from the Bellicheat tree who used to do stuff like this.
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I was thinking more from the receiving end. Like why would the Giants want to take on a fully guaranteed 15mil contract insead of just offering him a contract in FA for about the same amount where they could move the cap hits around better?
It doesnt make sense from the trade partners perspective.
They could exclusively work out a long term contract w/ Miami holding his rights.
I’m not seeing how it benefits the team that would trade for him.
Looks like Johnny Martin still hasnt ironed out all his issues…..
Neither has Richie…………..
The only way the deal with the franchise tag makes sense is if they can renegotiate the contract with the tag, but I don’t think that can happen.
Would be kinda like yeah you tag him and re-work the deal and then we will trade for him. Whole lot of work and risk to get that worked out.
Why wouldnt they just try to trade Wake for a 5-6th rounder and then use the money save by trading Wake for truly re-signing Vernon?
I meant if the trading team could renegotiate, but I’m not even sure the home team can do that.
Why would a team trade draft picks for a guy who was going to be a UFA? So now they not only have to still pay him big money they also give up a pick or picks. I’d have to see it happen to believe it.
You wake up in bed with….
This….
This….
or this….
Which makes you cut your own dick off out of spite…..
What exactly is this family up to?
Holy fuck….lol which might not be fully going on now but might be later….
Broke the blog
Tim’s mistress:
WTF! Does anyone know of a good Dolphins or any sports blog?
What….dont like the new babes of the week?
http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cowboys-corner-blog/article62463342.html
I told you guys that Dak was really impressive at the Senior Bowl. I know he gets labeled as a “mobile QB” but he has a good arm, good accuracy and throws the ball with zip, has some footwaork issues but he is a football smart QB, was like the only QB on the south side that was wearing a hadset and calling in plays when he wasnt on the field.
Incidentally my son who had really wanted to meet Dak and was just moments away from doing so only for Dak to be rushed out by the handlers, was upset because he never really got a chance to meet him. I told him if the Phins drafted him (which i dont expect but think there is an outside shot it could happen) Id take him to a Phins game and see if we could meet him then. I think he may go too high for us to draft a QB then but we did meet with him at Senior Bowl.
GDP i am not sure what ya do when you post sometimes but i sometimes just see a blank post, this being one of those.
Hmm must be a work filter where it doesnt show a forbidden message because i see it with my phone.
Same here, I get this sort of thing a lot.
LOL @ D-Bolt and the Ireland pic. Definitely him!
GD has the hots for the redhead above. Not sure he can afford her though.
Joe Philbin is a darn good football coach!!!! He might be, but he’s not a darn good HC. Not sure if he’s really darn good at fixing an O-line either, because our sucked real bad.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article62446772.html#storylink=rss
Yet he & Sparano’s claim to fame was being good OL coaches….NOT
Both guys are O-line coaches now. It’s funny.
You gotta have talent.
I posted a pic of the Donald & a hot first lady holding a baby that looks like Honest Ted….lol
Shout out to Toba & those crazy fowl Canucks!
Tim
Philbin had his say as to who we drafted and picked up in FA, and we did have Albert, Pouncey and James in one season. They just fucked the G spots last year, and this year, James got hurt. It’s on Philbin no matter how you slice it.
Tim mentioned talent above….who woulda thunk it right? 😉
But also I think the OLs under both Sparano & Philbin sucked because of other factors too. Like bad offensive systems/play calling, as well as Henne & the poor WR corps back then, etc.
That didn’t help either HC at all.
Not just Philbin, any asst. coach who gets viewed as good or bad based on a recent results. You can be the best coach in the world, if your players stink nothing you do will make them good.
In Sparano’s time, we picked up a few injury prone players, Grove, Smiley, and not sure on the timeline, but I think Long started to break down too.
The 2009 OL with all of them was really good and we were on our way until Smiley and Grove started breaking down followed by Long.
I agree, but it was short lived.
Tim
Do you think our O-line stinks?
It has stunk because we have yet to get our core 3 on the field together for any significant period of time and our guards and depth have not proven to be good enough.
Never trust a skinny man that says he understand the OL.
Tim
I ask, because I’m always under the impression that you want to fix it through FA, as do many others. That’s an expensive fix, to get 2 OG’s, and an accomplished T that can play either spot.
No I’m saying a proven vet guard, not a pro bowler, and a guy who has some versatility who can backup at tackle and guard in a pinch. Then let our young guards compete for one spot with some new young players.
Yesterday I mentioned versatile FA OT’s Chris Hairston, Chris Clark & Ryan Harris as possible affordable options.
Yeah my point being there has to be a guard out there better than what we have and a tackle better than Fox. Guys who are solid, not a weakness.
OG’s arent that expensive in FA, the top teir OG’s are 6-7mil per year. LT’s can be, for example i think Cordy Glenn is going to be i think in the 11-12mil per range. He’s not on Joe Thomas’ level so i dont see him getting that kind of contract this year but he’s going to get a top 5 ish for sure.
“Multiple league sources” tell NJ.com the Dolphins could franchise tag free agent DE Olivier Vernon with an eye toward trading him.
Any deal would almost certainly be contingent on Vernon agreeing to a long-term contract with the acquiring team. The Dolphins have seemed sluggish in talks with Vernon. Ace reporter Armando Salguero recently said he “(wasn’t) sure” if the Fins wanted to keep their 25-year-old pass rusher, but ultimately guessed they would. The one thing the Dolphins can’t do is let Vernon walk for nothing.
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I think this also backs up my statement the other day about knowing he’s a lifelong Miami native, so you push him to take a fair hometown deal and stop looking for the brinks truck to roll in.
Smart ploy.
Now go & resign Millertime!
So now a team that was interested in Vernon will have to give up something and pay him. Not sure how this works for anyone.
True, you’d have to think you had a trade already agreed upon before you did that & got stuck.
There’s no such thing as a home town deal. It all comes down to $.
Some players have demonstrated that its not all about the money in the past. Not many, but some.
Very minor, i don’t know of any. In the richest contract of your career, take the money and run. I love the Dolphins but they are just an employer in the eyes of a player.
They do exist, Brady gives it to NE all the time.
Vernon has said he’s doing that though,
NFL Media analyst Bucky Brooks likens Notre Dame T Ronnie Stanley to Ryan Clady.
“Big, athletic offensive tackle with light feet and exceptional movement skills. Stanley not only has the requisite physical tools to shine as a pro, but he has a combination of size, length and athleticism few offensive tackles can match on the perimeter,” Brooks wrote. “Measuring 6-foot-6, 315 pounds, Stanley is a natural left tackle with the balance, body control and lateral quickness to mirror shifty rushes on the edges.” The analyst ticks off the Tennessee Titans, San Diego Chargers, Baltimore Ravens, Jacksonville Jaguars and San Francisco 49ers as possible future employers. Because of a few weaknesses, Stanley is Brooks’ No. 2 T behind Laremy Tunsil.
Al
Cespedes took less to stay with the Mets
Less years, not money.
I ‘m not sure OV is not worth a large contract considering the way he plays and only has 1 move getting to QB. Everyone knows the leagues position of protecting the QB and OV is getting very close to QB’s knees whether on purpose or not.
Vernon has said he’s NOT giving a hometown discount.
Tim
Didn’t we do with that though with Shelley Smith, Linkenbach, and Colledge? Colledge was at least decent, and Smith at least played, but not particularly well, but Linkenbach couldn’t even see the field. When you buy low, sometimes you get low production man, it’s just the way it is.
We missed on some of them. Colledge is the kind of guy I’m talking about. He was good until he got a head injury and ended up with a migraine issue and retired. By the way Shelley Smith is back with us. LOL
No kidding? That’s funny
lol @ Laquon Treadwell today
Dane Brugler @dpbrugler 3h3 hours ago
Best response to a question today is Laquon Treadwell on the toughest CB he’s faced: “I mean, I wouldn’t consider anyone tough in college.”
Treadwell added: “There were some great guys…Cyrus Jones, the guy from Florida, not Vernon Hargreaves, the younger guy..(Tabor).”
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Treadwell did mention MSU Will Redmond as a quality CB he faced
Redmond is solid, he just was injured this year. I always look for him if i decide not to draft CB with the first pick. Tabor stayed on Treadwell most the game. UF had two lockdown CB’s last year and two FS that are ballhawks. Treadwell did almost nothing against UF.
Jones is one of those players i really like but he is still fairly raw. He has great recovery speed, but he had to to survie because he got beat a lot or he bit on double moves a lot. He also is a really great return man so there is another upside to taking a guy like Jones.
Mike i was replying to you above, ill cut an paste it here since a lot has gon on since i originally opened the reply.
D says:
February 25, 2016 at 5:06 pm
OG’s arent that expensive in FA, the top teir OG’s are 6-7mil per year. LT’s can be, for example i think Cordy Glenn is going to be i think in the 11-12mil per range. He’s not on Joe Thomas’ level so i dont see him getting that kind of contract this year but he’s going to get a top 5 ish for sure.
I dont think you fill the roster from FA but definitely one OG, maybe even two might not be out of the question. Not even out of the question of Glenn, and maybe an OG to go with him either.
Tim Knight says:
February 25, 2016 at 5:02 pm
Vernon has said he’s NOT giving a hometown discount
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Yep. like Jose Bautista told the media in Toronto the other day when asked about a Hometown discount -> ” That doesn’t exist . Not in my world”
Tim Knight says:
February 25, 2016 at 4:59 pm
They do exist, Brady gives it to NE all the time.
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They just defer money not take away.
Brady never got that monster deal.
He’s got Jizzelle that’s making more money that he’ll ever see. 😉
or maybe they give it to his personnel health guru who he has a vested invested business interest..
Brady is unique anyway, he has accomplished a HOF career and makes way more than OV in endorsments not to mention Tom’s wife brings in alot on her end to the family table.
Belichick and him are tied at the hip it seems. They know each makes each other successful. You pair that with an owner as evil as Kraft who probably would resort to fraud in keeping Brady happy (paying him under the table).
Tim
Less years in baseball is less guaranteed money. He had a $100M contract on the table, he took the 3 YR deal He could have had a $100M guaranteed
True but he also has an opt out after one year if he has some monster season and thinks he’ll get the big contract from some other team.
I don’t know Tim, I can’t ever recall a player giving up over $60M guaranteed in MLB, or any other sport. I think it’s great that he wants to be with the Mets, but it’s a big risk.
Not $60M, $25M
getterdone says:
February 25, 2016 at 4:59 pm
NFL Media analyst Bucky Brooks likens Notre Dame T Ronnie Stanley to Ryan Clady.
“Big, athletic offensive tackle with light feet and exceptional movement skills. Stanley not only has the requisite physical tools to shine as a pro, but he has a combination of size, length and athleticism few offensive tackles can match on the perimeter,” Brooks wrote. “Measuring 6-foot-6, 315 pounds, Stanley is a natural left tackle with the balance, body control and lateral quickness to mirror shifty rushes on the edges.” The analyst ticks off the Tennessee Titans, San Diego Chargers, Baltimore Ravens, Jacksonville Jaguars and San Francisco 49ers as possible future employers. Because of a few weaknesses, Stanley is Brooks’ No. 2 T behind Laremy Tunsil.
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OMG Brooks says he’s the second best OT in the draft….welcome to the party Bucky, it started last year when Stanley was already seen as a potential first round pick then lol. Aslo when you are the second best OT in the draft you can usually list all the top picks as possible landing spots. Personally with Ozzie how he is with wanting safer picks with his first rounders, i really think Baltimore is where he goes, I think Tennessee is going to take Tunsil.
D
We’ll see, if we can get a top tier OG for $6M, maybe we should get one top tier guy, and another mid level guy then. I would hate to see the O-line be a letdown for us. If you want to see what RT is capable of, give him a legit chance with a solid O-line
Alex Mack may become available if he doesn’t restructure his contract Cleveland has said. Mack at center and move Pouncey to guard and we add 2 pro bowl players for 6-7 million contract.
Not sure if Pouncey is strong enough to play G. Randy always says he doesn’t think Pouncey could handle it.
Pouncey made pro bowl at Guard and Center. He excelled at guard in college and moved to center for team needs. He played at NT also in college.
Mike thats my thoughts is we get one starter and one depth guy. We get a rookie, Douglas, Turner or Thomas to step up and man the last OG spot and i think we will be pretty solid with James back.
Treadwell had his lowest receiving numbers against UF, so pretty much didnt matter who was covering him, they shut him down lol. 42 yards receiving 0 TD’s
This is from an article last year …
Agent’s Take: What you should know about Tom Brady’s unique contract
By Joel Corry | Former Sports Agent
January 7, 2015 11:47 am ET
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24941197/agents-take-what-you-should-know-about-tom-bradys-unique-contract
“On Russell Wilson: It is unrealistic to expect any quarterback still playing under a rookie deal to give up significant money on his first veteran contract. Comparing their situations to Brady’s is like comparing apples and oranges. Russell Wilson, expected to sign a lucrative new contract prior to the start of the 2015 season, has made slightly less than $2.2 million from his rookie contract while Brady has earned more than $150 million from his playing contracts during his 15-year career. Another AFC executive told me, “Wilson is at least another contract or two and a few years away from considering anything like Brady has done.”
The team executives also thought the income of Brady’s wife, Gisele Bundchen, played a role in Brady’s decision. According to Forbes Magazine, Bundchen is the world’s highest-paid model with an estimated $47 million in earnings for the 12-month period ending last July. She reportedly made $42 million during the previous 12 months.”
See Jizzele makes way more than Tom Lady.
D
I could run with that.
Mike E. says:
February 25, 2016 at 5:01 pm
Al
Cespedes took less to stay with the Mets
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I don’t think he did, he just didn’t find anyone who would give him a longer deal.
Baseball contracts are fully guaranteed anyway while in football they are not.
Supposedly he had a longer $100M deal on the table. That’s all I can tell you. The other contract offer was reported first
I just finished puking after Reviewing today’s pics
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Lol, i think some of them might have been half pig….
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LOL Piggy
I dont like the idea of moving Pouncey to OG either. He need to stay at OC and whomever we get can play OG, Mack might be a good one, but OC’s make more than OG’s so not sure he would want to play for OG money or even if he did he would consider it a pay cut to be paid in the top 3 at that position.
he’s a team player that has proven that by playing guard when we needed it. Now BA could play guard but he was allowed out of KC because he refused to play guard when KC wanted to draft a tackle. Let’s Markice Pouncey renewed his contract recently but he has been injury prone. His contract is probabbly going to be restructered soon.I think the brother may want to play together before retiring.
I have no doubt that Pouncey would do it if asked, its not a matter of that to me. To me its a matter of having a pro-bowl OC vs a guy who struggled to play OG last time we asked him too. Its just not worth the risk of moving him to OG.
Piggy, just for you……….
Auburn T Shon Coleman withdrew from NFL Combine workouts due to a knee injury.
“It was something I was looking forward to,” he said. “I really believe I’m one of the more athletic big men out here. For me to not be able to come out and be able show that, it’s very frustrating. At the same time I have a plan to come back and get everything ready.” Incredibly, we didn’t find out until Thursday that Coleman had undergone surgery to repair an MCL tear in his right knee following the season. Remember when Coleman declined a Senior Bowl invitation? This is why. Doctors are not expected to clear Coleman for workouts until the middle of April at the earliest. As a result, Coleman will also be held out of Auburn’s Pro Day on March 7. He was able to give it a go on the bench on Thursday, putting up 22 repetitions. “I think I could have gotten a couple more reps,” Coleman said. “That was around the aim I was looking for.”
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He’ll be a guy that slides some. This and the cases like Jaylon Smith and a few others is why I’d like to trade down to get a couple extra picks.
My god….can we please go back to censored topless hot women pics? Lol