It has come to my attention that the Dolphins may not have a draft entirely compromised of linebackers.
In fact, maybe they use free agency to address linebacker.
Well, that thought hurts me deep in my pulsarspheres…but it’s a fact I have to accept.
So in my sadness I turned to an Earth Movie to wash away my troubles – Tombstone
A great movie about Wyatt Earp and his companions taking on the Cowboy known as –
Emmanuel Ogbah!
Wyatt Earp came to the town of Tombstone and became the lawman of Tombstone.
But little did Earp know that a Cowboy from Nigeria would also come to town.
Earp thought the best way to preserve law and order was a high octane passing game.
Ogbah had different ideas as to what was right for Tombstone.
The 6’4, 274 pound Cowboy tallied 10 sacks in 2014 and 12.5 in 2015.
He was pass rushing beast at Oklahoma State ruining Earp’s plan to rule the West with that ariel attack.
And when Ogbah gets to the quarterback, well he doesn’t exactly tickle the passer.
It helps that Ogbah is a fast big man. He ran a 4.63 in the 40 yard dash!
I’ve seen Ogbah compared to NFL pass rushers like Charles Johnson, Datone Jones and Vinnie Curry.
Some scouts think he might be a better run stopper than a pass rusher because he is not known for his explosiveness.
But I say to quarterbacks “Tell them Ogbah’s coming, and hell is coming with him!”
Im my version of Tombstone, the Cowboy buries all the lawmen.
Okay, I took a few liberties with this version of Tombstone. But I think you know where I am going with this.
If Ogbah was an Alien Weapon of Destruction. Well in this case its more of a memorial….
Check out his highlights here
Finsmob Unleashed 
Good prospect. Probably not worthy of #8 but don’t think he’ll be a 2nd rd option anymore either.
Awesome job Piggy
LOL @ And when Ogbah gets to the quarterback, well he doesn’t exactly tickle the passer.
So the Dolphins put the transition tag on Vernon. Why even bother? Either 1. Franchise tag him and guarantee we get something from another team if they want him. 2. Come to an extension agreement with him. (they had all of last year and this off season to negotiate) or 3. let him walk in free agency.
I just don’t see the point in letting other teams do your negotiating for you. It worked so well with Charles Clay last year……SMH different guys, but same old shit from the dolphins…
I guess the transition tag gives you the option to determine if you want to match?
I’m glad we didn’t franchise the guy. I’m not sure what that would have netted in return but I don’t think a team would give up too much
The transition tag essentially gives you the right of last refusal which is okay imo with OV. Nothing to lose in doing that. We can decide if and when he gets an offer if we wish to match and if he doesn’t get a big offer then we have leverage over him to negotiate a new deal.
The issue with the transition tag is some team can offer the same money as the Dolphins but structure it so we couldn’t work it in our cap. Like Buffalo did with Clay last year. Great that we get the chance to match. If we don’t have the cap space this year. (we don’t) then they can put a bunch of money in the first year of the contract and we won’t be able to do anything. I’m not as down on OV as some of you guys. I wish we could keep him…..
or at least gotten a draft pick or two in exchange for him.
I have been thinking let OV go the whole time
so it doesn’t bother me
a pick would have been nice
but you get comp picks anyway – just 2 years from now
They could do that and if a team is willing to spend that kind of money for him then let him go. With the transition tag he is at 12.7 million next season. So if someone wants to spend more than that fine. In regards to Clay we didn’t get anything for him but it looks like the right move to have let him go. He is injury prone and while productive when healthy his injuries kept him out at the crucial playoff run stretch. He may never be the same player he was.
Rock, it’s basically the same with allowing him to walk in FA except you get the chance to match the deal. It allows you to see if the market for him based on what his agent says is for real.
Nobody gives up two 1st rd picks and then signs a player to a top contract.
Aroldis Chapman will be suspended for 30 games without pay, and he won’t appeal.
Caught with his finger in the dyke? 😉
Tim Knight says:
March 1, 2016 at 2:58 pm
It’s not the number itself that bothers me with OV, it’s comparative to what others make. The salaries are always going to go up. Check this chart with OV’s transition tag. He’s not the player the two above him are. He should be more in that $8-10M range.
http://overthecap.com/position/4-3-defensive-end
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He’s not Michael Bennett or several others either that are making less. But I see the upside in him with his age and most recent production. Production of which I think can be partly attributed to Suh getting dbl & tpl teams.
So that being said, I’m not offering him $12M+ per yr with the others we have to pay.
Tannenbum needs to start collecting embarrassing / incriminating pictures of other teams GM’s & owners like Bellicheat does. How else does he get other teams to make stupid trades with him the way he does? remember when he got a 1st round pick from Oakland for an old pass rusher with one year left on his contract? Who does that? Matt Cassel for two 2nd round picks?? He has his filming department spying on GM’s and Owners now instead of recording practices!
I think it was the year he lost the first round pick for spy gate. He got a much higher pick in the same draft from Oakland I think.
WOW, already more reports of voter fraud going on….SMH!
The establishment will not secede to the Donald without pulling out all their bag of tricks.
If Donald Trump becomes the president of the US I swear to god I will leave the country! Grand Cayman here I come!
LOL, buh bye, nice knowing ya. Wait, Hillary probably will block you from going.
He owns them. LOL
Good to see some one else with sense
Don’t worry. The only way Trump gets to be President is if Hillary is indicted and I think that is unlikely. Otherwise there is no way Trump wins a general election.
Does this OV tag thing mean we will let Miller walk because Gase knows Forte and thinks we can get him cheaper and accomplish what Gase needs from a RB or even change to draft a RB maybe even Elliott.
I’m not sure OV has anything to do with Miller. There are going to other cuts to free up some cap.
Naples, nice to see ya.
Ezekiel Elliot is getting major hype that he’ll even go in the late 1st round. We can’t go RB in any of the 1st 3 rounds…IMO.
I think the transition tag means they’re prepared to let OV walk, and not overpay, especially when that money can be used to retain Miller, add a solid DE, & maybe OG in FA too.
Plus this is a deep draft for DE’s. I think losing OV isn’t a killer.
Gase seems to really like Miller, and you can deny the age either. Forte is now at that just serviceable age, where Miller could be a guy that could hit home runs for Gase the next 4-5 years that he’s here as HC trying to remain longterm.
Think there is 0 chance we draft Elliot, and he would not be worth a first.
@MikeGarafolo: @Italianphinfan @DanielEliesen They can always trade him instead of matching the offer. That’s part of the plan.
No they can’t.
The team trading would inherit the tag and all contract language within. Why would a team trade for a guy that they would have to match the offer of if someone in FA made an offer to him. Would be like losing picks with no assurance you wind up with the guy you traded for or have to potentially pay more than the tag to match. That would be dumb
I would think he transition tag in OV means we are more likely to sign Miller
Agreed. Contract demands are probably more inline w/ his production. I think Drew is smarter as an agent than Canter.
Animal house is such a fucking awesome movie
Piggy, meant to say kudos on the Ogbah scouting report by Wedge.
I really like this guy. He’s got a bright future. He’s done well being a raw player with limited experience, so I see a high ceiling with a guy that should be a 10yr pro.
His game film shows a pretty inconsistent player though. His combine was great but he disappears game to game. I would take him in the second but not the first
Transition tag didn’t do much for us as far as a long term contract. It’s like a potential 12mil rental. If OV doesn’t want to take less he might feel obligated to sign it but he probably doesn’t work out a long term contract with us if he believes he is worth more. It did give us a little leverage though since if no action NE offers more he might be forced to reconsider his market value
No one offers…where the fuck did NE come in I didn’t even use xaps
Why would OV transition tag have anything to do with Miller?
D, Ogbah’s senior year was 63 tkls 16.5 loss, 12.5 sacks, 3 FF 1 FR, 4 PD.
He won Big 12 DPOY. Not bad for a guy in his 3rd year.
I’m terrible at his contract stuff. What do folks think would be a “fair” contract for Miller?
$4.5M per for 4-5yrs with about $10M guranteed.
It might be in the $6+M range. Cutting Fuckface would give us that.
Ken says:
March 1, 2016 at 6:10 pm
Don’t worry. The only way Trump gets to be President is if Hillary is indicted and I think that is unlikely. Otherwise there is no way Trump wins a general election.
it is a real said time when one makes a comment like this. that a presidential candidate can be indicted. i dont think either of those fucks will effect my life but if himary is elected i feel very sorry for my kids or their kids if they ever have any. it will spend this country in a place where there is no recovering.
but hey, i mean how better to end a good thing then with a shemale.
I’m sure the Clinton & Bush crime families will do everything they can to get her elected. They’ve actually have already begun. Same with the BO admin & other multinationalist’s she’s tied to. They want her in a bad way. How sick is that. To hell with America 7 it’s citizens.
We can’t trade OV with the Transition tag. Wouldn’t we have tried to do that with Clay? Once FA starts he’s a UFA free to seek a contract with any team and all we have is the right to match it within 7 days. At least that’s how I believe it works.
CBS’ Jason La Canfora has “heard” Broncos franchise player Von Miller is seeking $65-$70 million guaranteed in a long-term deal.
In other words, the 27-year-old (this month) Super Bowl MVP wants to be the highest-paid defensive player in NFL history. Ndamukong Suh got $60 million guaranteed last offseason. It’s an understandable ask from Miller, who has 60 sacks across 72 career games and personally wrecked Tom Brady and Cam Newton in the postseason. With Miller’s demands so momentous, it’s possible the Broncos forego a long-term deal and let him play out 2016 under the franchise tag.
gdp,
Ok, thanks! I was thinking $3-4M a year for 4-5 years and guaranteeing about half of it. But, I usually adjust about a million or so up because I’m a Scrooge. Lol
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How does 4 years at $15M with $6M guaranteed, sound? Too low?
getter,
i have never been afraid of a presidential candidate but after 8 years of obama 8 years of himary scares the living hell out of me.
It should scare us all. The same cabal behind the Bushes and BO, are the ones behind pushing Billary.
Time to break that gang up.
Go Trump!
Tim Knight says:
March 1, 2016 at 7:03 pm
We can’t trade OV with the Transition tag. Wouldn’t we have tried to do that with Clay? Once FA starts he’s a UFA free to seek a contract with any team and all we have is the right to match it within 7 days. At least that’s how I believe it works.
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That’s the way I thought it went it. Or can someone makes a deal that he agree’s to in earnest, and they trade Miami a pick or player so they can not be caught in a bidding war for him.
True enough FFR. It’s a sad state of Presidential politics with the current crop running from both parties. Republican party has no one to blame but themselves for this situation. After 2012 they did a huge post mortem study on why they lost and they doing essentially everything that the study said not to do.
Agreed. We talk about blowing teams up, that party needs to be blown up.
At least I know what the Democrats are for the most part and what they stand for. Their supporters are usually on the same page on most policies at least from my experience. Republicans are all over the place with so many factions.
I guess I would classify myself as a socially liberal Republican representing one of those factions. But there really is no place in it for me because of the majority right wing social ideology. I’m for smaller overall government with a strong defense, modern infrastructure and an up to date education system. But that’s really where I want my tax dollars to end. I’m not against helping people get back on their feet, but I’m not for allowing it to be a lifestyle either. I think it does everyone a disservice.
We are so out of control with borrowing and spending though. It’s a shame.
Ken,
The GOP has been propping up their corrupt candidates as always, same with the Dems.
Then comes along a guy that didn’t need propping up by special international interest!
oops, now they are scrambling to get Trump out of contention, by rigging the convention delegates, or if they can do that, then I fear by force.
They haven’t had someone force their hand like this in a very long time.
Citizens are waking the F Up finally. Good people are sick of the shit sandwiches they’ve been fed for too long.
Voting for Trump is a referendum against the status quo!
Voting for Trump is like pissing in the wind.
I’ve done that. LOL
Your last line is what I’ve been pondering and asking everyone what they think. Some are so bias they just bash him and won’t listen to anything positive about it but others are thinking it out.
I think we would all be surprised by how many previous presidents and politicians could have been charged with serious charges of one sort or another all throughout history. The difference is that in our day and age…those things are revealed to the World. Go read about our former presidents….they were not without serious warts and shameful and criminal behavior. Don’t trust any of them! Lol
Very true. Which is one reason why Hillary’s email scandal doesn’t bother me so much. I think she is a witch of a human being but that doesn’t necessarily mean she can’t be an effective politician.
That’s what people think about Trump. You don’t have to love them.
Tim,
6+M? Seriously? That’s gotta put him in the top 10 at the least, doesn’t it?
Randy, I know you don’t think Miller is special but I and many others do. Do you know for a back who had one of the lower touches per game averages, he lead the league is forcing missed tackles and yards after initial contact? Add that to his explosiveness and he is a top back. He’s been finding a lot daylight the last year and a half.
ken,
yep that it is a very very sad state. or choices are from the dems a shemales who’s hair never moves and from the rep a SNL actor who’s hair cant be still.
Tim:
You are exactly right on the problems in the Repubican party. It has become so splintered that it is pulling itself apart. This is the fall out of the Reagan coalition of the social conservatives from the south and the fiscal conservatives who are not necessarily socially conservative. It worked for a while but changing demographics and changing social mores are making it difficult for the Republicans to keep those 2 bases satisfied.
‘At least I know what the Democrats are for the most part and what they stand for.’
yep, they are pretty simple. ‘i will take from those people that work for a living, those mean ole rich people and i will give to the masses who just dont do anything. dont worry you dont need to be a valuable member of society we will make the rich pay’
can kind of see why they constantly get elected.
Pretty much. Some people do believe in a more commune way of thinking. I don’t hate them for it. But in a free country you can’t force that on anyone and that’s what we do. I have a lot of issues with taxation and subsidization. To me free markets are organic and run themselves. It’s when we start meddling with them both illegally and legally we fuck things up.
Ken says:
March 1, 2016 at 7:25 pm
Voting for Trump is like pissing in the wind.
i would probably rather my own piss all over me then having himary scat all over me
It’s like pissing in the wind because Trump doesn’t have a prayer in a general election. I was not endorsing one candidate over the other.
I get what you’re saying. I sometimes listen to Mark Levin on the way home and he said the same thing. Hillary wins. And for those who don’t know who Mark Levin is, he’s a very conservative radio talk show host who worked for Reagan. I listen to him because he’s smart, even if he’s bias in his ideology. He’s not a nutcase like Limbaugh.
I don’t think the Republican party’s problem is different factions, I think it’s that they still hold true to the right wing bullshit. I’m admittedly more conservative politically, but the abortion issue, and some of the socio-religious issues don’t jibe with me. I like smaller government and I sure as hell like reforming welfare and repealing Obamacare. They need to be more moderate or they will forever be looking at Democratic Presidents.
But what you are describing is the factionalism in the Republican party. The social conservatives vs. the fiscal conservatives.
I was just going to say that. They’re not on the same page and that’s why they get shit candidates.
Tim,
Yeah, I think he’s a good back but nothing special. I don’t think his numbers are indicative of how he will perform over the next 5 years. I think they’ll average out with more touches. It’s also the position for me as far as the decreasing value of RBs.
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But, with that said, I’d like to keep him. I just don’t know if he’s worth top 10 money. Maybe he is.
if he does get more touches somewhere he’ll likely have 2-3 really big years though.
Tim, yes exactly. I’ve been really thinking it out with a lot of time spent researching….probably too much time on it….lol
But the people that bash his candidacy are knee jerk reactionaries as usual.
I’ve said before. I could never stand the guy before as a regular citizen. But his platform and leadership qualities seem to be resonating well.
But the single biggest factor for me, is how riled up the global elitists are, here and abroad. Even foreign leaders in government are already raising hell, and he hasn’t even won the part nominee yet.
That’s the kinda guy I’ve been seeking for decades. A guy with the balls to push back against TPTB. They’ve had it too easy for far too long, and this TPP deal, the Obamacare deal, the global warming deal, the Fed & central banking cabals are all nervous that they’ll lose the huge gains that they’ve set in place for themselves at the peril of the ordinary Joe.
Rattle their cages Donald, rattle their cages.!!! I Love it!
Even if Trump can only accomplish 1/3 of what he’s proposing, it will be 1000x better than what any of the others will ever do, that’s good for the common citizens.
I was not endorsing one candidate over the other.
ken,
let me be clear, i am not endorsing trump. but more saying anything but that shemale.
I don’t like either of them but I know which one I will vote if that is what the choice comes down to. Sadly.
Trump is breaking up the old guard establishment party, and that’s a great thing.
Ken, don’t think for one min that Trump can’t take Billary in the general election. Most people Know her BS & crimes. Her numbers pale in comparison to Trump.
Trump has good folks from both parties gravitating to him while the greedy sinister bitches scream like the wicked witch of the north.
I’m melting, I’m melting. 😀
Don’t know what numbers you are looking at but by almost all major polls and the current demographics it won’t be a close election. Trump has no chance. His only chance is to run against Sanders and even then he probably loses.
Ken says:
March 1, 2016 at 7:48 pm
I don’t like either of them but I know which one I will vote if that is what the choice comes down to. Sadly.
me too. i am writing i OD. not cause he would win but just to piss ross off
LOL.
Yikes, OD would send Ross to a FEMA camp. 😉
Ken
I think they’re all socially conservative except for Trump. He’s a rogue in many ways.
This country needs rogue back in the opposite direction it’s been heading by the current & past rogue leaders for sometime now.
I welcome it. I mean, what have we got to lose, besides the same old shit. We know what that’s like.
We have one of the highest standards of living in the world and despite the gross misinformation out there we have one of the most stable economies in the world. We have rights guaranteed under a constitution. We have much to lose.
Kasich isn’t. Rubio is somewhere between conservative and moderate. Trump is certainly not socially conservative. Cruz is way over the top socially conservative.
Ken, let me clarify then. They try to come off as socially conservative whether they really are or not to appease the party demands. Mitt Romney was much more moderate than the final product he became as he was shaped by the party. I think Rubio is as well, but now he comes off toeing the Republican line.
Mike E:
Exactly. That is the conundrum for the Republican Party. To appease it’s base their last 2 major candidate who are both pretty moderate guys had to go so far to the right to win the primary that they lost the moderate vote in the general election. But it is the pandering to the socially conservative base that is tearing the party apart.
You find more socially liberal/moderate types in the NE and California, some others throughout, but most of the midwest and south are socially conservative. And we know why.
Ken says:
March 1, 2016 at 7:52 pm
Don’t know what numbers you are looking at but by almost all major polls and the current demographics it won’t be a close election. Trump has no chance. His only chance is to run against Sanders and even then he probably loses.
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many of those polls are flawed.
But one thing I can say is, NOW we all know why the boarders are wide open, illegals are now allowed to vote, giveaways are promised & at an all time high. That way the Dems will never be voted out with over 51% of voters in America on the Gov teat of some sort.
Hey, raise our taxes so we can pay for it all….Weeee.
TOMORROW’s going to be a special day for FAU baseball fans. –The undefeated 7-0 Owls travel about 40 miles north to the spring training headquarters of the Miami Marlins and the St. Louis Cardinals in Jupiter, Florida. They’ll play the Cardinals an exhibition game, featuring some of St. Louis’s top minor league players (and a couple in the majors) against the Owls. What makes this special is the starting pitcher for the Cards will be Austin Gomber, a star on last season’s FAU baseball team, who is competing for a spot on THIS YEAR’s Cardinals staff!! –You can bet several of FAU’s upper classmen who played with Gomber last year would LOVE to “light him up” in this exhibition contest. For their part, FAU will start a pitcher who has not pitched so far this season, so he’ll likely have his hands full when facing the pros!! But it’s quite an advertisement for our program, none the less. Big time scouts, not just from the Cards and the Marlins, but from several other major league clubs (including the Mets, Yankees, Phillies and Braves) will be in the stands looking at FAU’s abundance of talent and wondering which kid would work best in their program. I know several parents of FAU players will be in the stands, nervously watching their kids perform. It is one of the many reasons why I love college baseball.
Then we always have baseball to turn to. Thanks OD 😀
Ken says:
March 1, 2016 at 7:59 pm
We have one of the highest standards of living in the world and despite the gross misinformation out there we have one of the most stable economies in the world. We have rights guaranteed under a constitution. We have much to lose.
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Ken, I get you, I really do. But that’s a over used cliche’ at this point. Those standards, & the economy has been going down steadily. The economy is fragily propped up by the Feds running the printing press all night long with their fiat money. Wall St is propped up by lots of smoke n mirrors. The whole thing is a house of cards….and for us having rights guaranteed by the constitution, Ha, we did, but that’s been & is being slowly stripped away.
One thing you’re right about, Yes, we have MUCH to lose. Let’s not keep going with the same crony puppets.
You have bought into the propaganda machine. Our economy is still the standard by which other countries wish to aspire too. Our constitution is still in force and functioning. I don’t see America as failing. I see flaws but I will take our flaws over any other country’s flaws.
Alright. I need to get some stuff done around the house and have to prep for an all day deposition tomorrow on a very sad death case. It is going to be a long day tomorrow.
Take care my friend. Good discussions. Peace.
Peace.
I’ve always like Kasich the same way I always liked Joe Lieberman. They seem like genuine good people regardless of ideology. Ken, I’m sure you know Leiberman. Now you’ll tell me something about him that ruins my feeling about him. LOL
I liked Lieberman. I like Kasich. If Kasich won the nomination I would feel much better about things but he just doesn’t seem to get any traction.
Yeah he doesn’t resonate with enough of the country.
Okay now I am really out. Peace.
Mike, the Dems are a pro-choice party even though I’m sure they have some pro-lifers, but it’s a minority. The Reps have to be pro-life to win the nomination even if a candidate is pro-choice. Trump already said he’s pro-life even though I highly doubt he’d push for an overturn of Roe v. Wade.
Only the Supreme ct can affect that ruling
so it doesn’t matter what Trump or anyone else is
it matters who they appoint to the Supreme Court, if anyone
and all republicans appoint conservative judges and democrats appoint liberals
True, I meant keep the movement going.
Later, Ken. Good discussions. This is what I mean. We should be able to discuss these issues without mudslinging. I think it’s healthy and productive.
fuck off
Is that a seal eating the pig’s ass? LOL
Kasich is actually a really reasonable person and some one that appears to have the makings of a good leader
If he insulted The Pope, Mexicans, Blacks, Women, Jews, Muslims and all the other candidates he might be able to get a following like Trump
He had really precise answers in the debate
That’s a guy with a plan beyond insulting people for he same of the publicity it gets you
Ahh, the polished politician 😉
Piggy, unfortunately he’s right, that’s why Kasich and people like him don’t win.
I also feel the accusations of who Trump insulted is overly sensitive propaganda. It’s easy to throw out those kinds of headlines without the substance attached to it. I’ve watched Trump campaign and debate a few times now and never came away thinking he was a bigot. He was talking about policies on matters that effect those groups one way or the other. He wasn’t insulting the people at their core.
Ken says:
March 1, 2016 at 8:11 pm
You have bought into the propaganda machine. Our economy is still the standard by which other countries wish to aspire too. Our constitution is still in force and functioning. I don’t see America as failing. I see flaws but I will take our flaws over any other country’s flaws.
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What propaganda machine? I’ve studied hard facts. The reason our economy is the standard by which others aspire to is because the dollar is still the world reserve currency, but it’s on it’s last legs as major countries are starting to trade for their major commodities in other than the US dollar.
Yes our constitution is still in place and functioning overall, but it’s getting peeled away like an onion & changed year after year. The business & social divide is reaching all time highs.
So is every other country, cause it’s become we’ve become globally intertwined. As we fall, so will they. Guess we’re already seeing that NWO thingy going thru birth pangs. 😉
THANKS, GDP, for your reply. And you’re right. NO dumb-ass Republican or dumb-ass Democrat can steal baseball from us!
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I KNEW SOMETHING WAS UP when FAU head baseball coach John MacCormack did NOT accompany the team to Starkville, Mississippi, when FAU swept #11-ranked Mississippi State in the opening weekend of this college baseball season. The athletic department revealed that “Coach Mac” is being treated for cancer and his doctors advised him not to travel long distances for a while. But I’ll bet you a team of horses couldn’t keep him away from tomorrow’s game against the St. Louis Cards!! He’ll be there, along with his wife, Katrina, the long standing Sports Information Director, to do what he can during the game. I’m not sure the exact extent of the coach’s problem, but I DO KNOW his players will bust their collective asses to make this season a very successful one. Coack Mac joins Howard Schnellenberger and Kevin Cooney as one of the most beloved athletic coaches in school history.
Piggy,
That’s just it. Nobody cares about having real discussions about serious issues. It’s all about issues with no substance, but our society seems to eat it up. We get what we deserve. We put GW in. Twice! The guy was dumber than a chimp…seriously…dumber than a fricking chimp….and we not only pick him once….we do it again. Unreal.
….and same with BO, & Slick Willie, and so on & so on……
Let’s break that!
It’s about being re-elected and kickbacks from lobbyists for the election. The best interest of the people is not the trophy unfortunately.
I will tell you
That no matter what you think of prior presidents and other candidates
Trump is uniquely a wart on the American Flag
And if he wins we ahould all just give up
This is different than anything we ever dealt with as a country
DID SOMEONE SAY Republican presidents appoint conservative justices and Democrats appoint liberals? You should check the career of Chief Justice Earl Warren, a California conservative who became a liberal Chief Justice during the 50’s and ’60’s. He was appointed by that well known liberal, President Dwight D. Eisenhower. –AND, if I remember right, was confirmed by a boatload of conservative senators! Hell. even Eisenhower’s Vice President (some guy named “NIXON”) heaped praise on Warren after he was confirmed.
The Republican/GOP was a different party back then. The 1968 Democratic National Convention changed the political landscape moving forward. The two major parties changed. The parties are much more polarizing now.
WELL Y’all have a terrific evening. Hope the idiot of your choice does well in tonight’s primaries.–Talk to you tomorrow. The Old Dolfan is OUT!
Sorry guys
I think Trump running has hit new lows in Kardashian Culture for me
And I want nothing to do with some like that
To me – trump as president is the decline of civilization
You really how anti democratic it is to write a rival candidate a cease and desist letter is
He may as well just spit on the 1st amendment and democracy
I get a lot of what you’re saying. I’m not a fan of Trump like I’ve always digged him or anything, I know who he is, he’s been a popular figure for 30 years? But I never hated him. I try to see his qualities vs. his public persona. After all, like Ken mentioned earlier and I replied:
Ken says:
March 1, 2016 at 7:31 pm
Very true. Which is one reason why Hillary’s email scandal doesn’t bother me so much. I think she is a witch of a human being but that doesn’t necessarily mean she can’t be an effective politician.
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Tim Knight says:
March 1, 2016 at 7:32 pm
That’s what people think about Trump. You don’t have to love them.
WOW, c’mon man. Seriously? That’s being as silly as what you’re trying to make him out to be!
What happened to anyone can grow up to be president one day???
Or only the privilege connected families, or the ones groomed by the establishments & TPTB.
Why is that silly
Imagine if he was president
Imagine if he wrote a cease a desist letter and threatened to sue anyone who critized him as president
Is that your vision of democracy
If you insult or say something about a president or a candidate they can sue you?
Do you realize how gof awfully unamerican it is to try to threaten another candidate with lawsuits for defamation?
We as voters des ever to hear everything about a person we may or may not vote for
Trying to stop that by threat of lawsuit spits on everything that is the democratic process
You are not thinking this true GDP
Think about how bad that is – to suppress speech, of a candidate, in the middle of a run for president
That is how Trump functions (and I should know)
And do not undermine my 1st amendment argument
You should know (and I’m sure the lawyers here will agree) that defamation is considered an exception to the 1st amendment
Think about it
What if Trump threatened to sue everyone who spoke about him in a manner he didn’t like if he was president
That is not democracy
LAMO @ Hillary’s email breech not being not being an issue or keeping her from being an effective politician….Oops, there goes some more sensitive classified information up for grabs, Ahh, it’s ok, it’s not treason, neither was Benghazi, etec etc…relax….smh!
piggy,
i get trump is a bacon eater and you dislike him. and already told you i am not a trump supporter. just was more saying i get you hateful disdain for him, that is how i feel about that guy hillary.
I don’t care about Hillary, Cruz, sanders it Rubio
I hate trump
He is not running for president
He’s running for attention
Those others are at last politicians
Trump runs his campaign like a reality show
Throwing people under the bus until he wins
I don’t know what his policies are
I think some here are projecting libertarian policy on him bc he is a business man
But he never says the things people think he supports
He is too busy targeting groups of people and insulting other candidates to tell us what his policies are
That’s it in a nutshell.
If I asked the Magic 8 Ball who will be our next president? I think the answer would be ‘Most Definitely Hillary Clinton’.
It’s like picking who you think will win the super bowl.
getter,
himary lost me years ago when she just turned her back on her husband cheating just for her own gains.
so make a treaty or any type of deal with another country and they violate it. himary wont care as long as she is taken care of
The Flying Pig says:
March 1, 2016 at 9:19 pm
I don’t care about Hillary, Cruz, sanders it Rubio
good for you, and i dont care about trump. i fear himary.
you just went on a rant about him and some cease and desist letter and threatened to sue anyone who criticized him as president like that is going to happen but you are more then happy with a candidate who may have her own email server with vital sensitive information which can harm the country. if you’re more in fear of a joke like trump over a threat like himary then we dont have much to discuss regarding the presidential race.
You don’t really know what is in her emails
So you speculate
Which is reasonable
But you know that trump did all the things I am saying and you don’t care
I’m hoping its Cruz/Rubio vs Clinton
Just bc I hate trump
Which I make no bones about
Doesn’t mean I want Hillary Clinton as president
But if republicans put trump against Hillary that’s exactly what might happen
You can stop bringing up Clinton Everytime I mention trump
One has nothing to do with the other
You can bash Hillary Clinton all you want and I promise not to bring up trump
I promise you, you can hate both of them
You guys need to take that stuff more seriously
And I leave it at that (tonight)
It’s a big deal to write a cease and desist letter to another candidate and it undermines the democratic process, which requires us the voter, to hear all the candidates without threat of lawsuit to that candidate
It’s a big deal to be sued by the attorney general of NY for FRAUD because you set up a bs university and forced young people to go in debt for your own profit
It’s a big deal to file bankruptcy (for your Corp) and almost bankrupt a city and walk away and still be filthy rich!
I’ve never seen some one do these kind of things and have people still excuse them
lol ok yep. a very big deal to write a cease and desist order but it is more then ok to have an unsecured server laying around with sensitive information on it.
Apples and oranges
When exactly did I say to take Clintons issues less seriously?
Piggy, I believe you said you’re a real estate lawyer in the past. You live and work in NYC so I get why you said I should know about Trump. From what I think you said, are you saying that he will take a lot of issues to court which sounds like a lot of red tape to me? Also, give up some more intel you have in the real estate biz, or maybe I missed it.
He’s got tons of litigation right now
Thank you! LOL
any body wondering which one of piggy’s family trump ate for breakfast?
‘I promise you, you can hate both of them’
lol, yet all you do is say you dont hate anyone not named trump. you so only ever see one side when you try and discuss things. maybe that is my problem, i thought we were having a discussion but you arent, you are just telling me your side and nothing more.
Your not having a discussion
You are taking what I say and making it into whatever you want
Piggy, what? You don’t think the 1st amendment has all ready been under a serious assault?
So you pick a cease & desist letter which is only meant to tell Cruz to chill is lies.
I don’t think anyone running for office should tell some one not to talk about them under threat of lawsuit
Trump can reply to anything Cruz says
He doesn’t have to suppress speech and threaten to sue him
That’s anti-democratic
We need to hear everything these candidates have to say so we can make informed votes
Mudslinging in politics goes back a long way
These guys all know what they are getting into
They should not try to silence some one if they respect the constitution and the democratic process
You can always reply to anything some one says
It’s. It like he does. It have different recourse
The Flying Pig says:
March 1, 2016 at 9:38 pm
Apples and oranges
When exactly did I say to take Clintons issues less seriously?
i think it was in the same post i said i take trump less serious
Ken said that, and I responded.
DOJ, NSA, CIA, IRS, FEC, FCC, all Trumps doing right???
http://www.mediacompolicy.org/2015/07/articles/uncategorized/the-first-amendment-and-free-speech-under-assault/
This presidential election in an ‘Animal House food fight.’ Is it wrong that it’s more entertainment than substance? No, that’s what most media is now. They got us. Most of us. What they need.
I’ve watched debates before
And there is usually more substance
I think the material is there of people want to talk about
But I question if trump has any substance
Trump’s message is predicated on a belief that America is a failed state and that only he can fix it.
He can fix it by building a wall, by excluding all those who are not like us. I am sorry I do not subscribe to his non-sensical drivel. The United States of America is not a failed state. America does not need to be made great again. It is great. The face of America is changing and no wall can change that.
The wall thing is ridiculous but is political pandering. It’s all about getting the nomination. Even ‘The Hills Have Eyes’ folks. LOL
It will also be why he loses the general election. The 2012 post mortem said the no. 1 demographic the Republicans need to make in roads with is the hispanic vote. So they will nominate a guy who wants to build a wall around Mexico, has publicly raised in debate the virtues of the wetback policy and reinstitute it by deporting millions of immigrants. And some think Trump can win in a general election.
The wall is to stop ILLEGAL immigration, legal immigration is ok. His wife is a LEGAL immigrant fro crying out loud….lol
History tells us that great countries collapsed from within, the boarders being overrun with people that can’t assimilate.
Yeah, it’s a huge issue, probably #1. Have you seen what’s happening in Europe with all the mass illegals crossing boarders???
Can you pay more taxes to support the mass influx of refugees???
Why aren’t we pressuring the countries they’re fleeing from the get their shit together and make for a better society so they’ll wanna stay there???
Vicente Fox said Fuck You! He’s a global elitist and doesn’t give a shit about anyone but his cronies.
Building walls is really primitive. It comes with disdain that is really dirty. Nobody really wants that. There are other methods.
Effective boarder patrol, which Trump eluded to. The wall he said would have a big door in it for people coming thru the right way…lol
getterdone says:
March 1, 2016 at 9:47 pm
Ken said that, and I responded.
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tim
i have said it over and over. all those rep. debates were like watching SNL skits. there were a few that were ever more funny then some SNL shows
Most SNL skits suck so yeah I agree. LOL
Get your wallets out, you do wanna save the world don’t you? Meanwhile the elites .5%’ers are just raking in more and more…..laughing all the way!
Our country was built and made great by people fleeing other countries. Our country is a country of immigrants. Immigration has consistently made our country better. With each wave of immigrants came a wave of people eager to work and with diversified skills. That remains true to this day.
Legal immigration, well meaning folks who are vetted.
Have you seen the immigration policy to try and get into another country? Have you seen what they do to you if you cross illegally? smh
Yeah, how dare we have some standards, rules and regulations like we did in the past.
i agree with ken. fuck that shit if i am picking my own damn strawberries. besides who doesnt love a good burrito then some strawberries for dessert
Here in Connecticut the local farms charge you to pick your own strawberries.
All sovereign countries have borders. Well, the EU is losing theirs, as is the US. Hmm, wonder who & what could be behind that??? 🙄
It’s pretty easy to travel form country to country in Europe
The Berlin Wall was pretty much one of the lows of European history
Walls are generally not converted by societies
Coveted
Why don’t we build a wall at the Canadian border?
Canadians are nice
They have a pretty serious border patrol, checkpoints, etc.
C’mon man.
Ken, can anyone just walk into your yard unannounced and set up a tent, build a fire. Start eating the fruit off your trees, pissing on your driveway? Or would you call the cops?
Think about it. 😉
The Flying Pig says:
March 1, 2016 at 10:10 pm
Your not having a discussion
You are taking what I say and making it into whatever you want
nope. i was trying too. i was even trying to say how i got your hatred of trump cause that was how i feel about himary. but you didnt care, all you wanted was to tell me why i should hate trump like you do. it was after you kept giving me YOUR reasons why i should hate trump i pointed out the things i thought himary did which was worse.
I don’t want to talk about Hillary and you are going to have to accept that
It’s not what I was talking about
It’s not what I am going to talk about
I don’t think I have to justify every trump criticism but criticizing Clinton
If you are talking about football, I’m not going to say what abiut baseball?
They are 2 different things
What about Cricket?
Tim:
I went to St. Lucia about a year ago and I guess a lot of British travel there and there were daily cricket games organized at the resort. I was like WTF game is this?
Tannehill sucks and is costing the team. 😉
Walls? If you’re a true conservative uh-hem… walls should come down. 🙂
The wall he said would have a big door in it for people coming thru the right way…lol
hopefully this is the door knocker
That’s on the mantle over your bed?
The Flying Pig says:
March 1, 2016 at 10:17 pm
I don’t want to talk about Hillary and you are going to have to accept that
contrary to what you think i dont have to accept a damn thing you want. i dont want to talk about trump. i dont really care what you are talking about, i will talk about what i want. if you want to squeal away about trump go ahead. i will say what i want as much as i want if you like it or not.
Lol…Okay don’t accept it if you like
But what’s the point of approaching me about a topic I don’t want to discuss?
Ken says:
March 1, 2016 at 10:13 pm
Why don’t we build a wall at the Canadian border?
duh, have you ever had mexican bacon. just doesnt compare to that canadian stuff
ken,
the plant city farms down here do the same thing.
Well I support those immigrant workers and buy my strawberries at the supermarket.
‘If you are talking about football, I’m not going to say what abiut baseball?’
thats too bad. i am adapt at having multiple discussions at the same time. i could easily talk about both
ken,
went one time to pick them when my kids were younger. for like $10 we had strawberries for weeks and weeks and weeks.
We used to pick them and my mom and some other relatives used to make strawberry jam and that was damn good.
https://twitter.com/kristenvbrown/status/704698900964192256
How sad has our youth become…WOW. SMH!
I think that’s the corollary response to the notion that woman exercising her right to determines what happens with own body is some sort of a whore baby murderer.
Extreme responses always beget extreme responses.
ken,
bet that was good, but…..and just going to say this so getter and tim can get all excited…..i am more of a grape jam kind of guy.
I think they are pretty excited anyways. LOL.
piggy,
i approached you saying how i got your hatred of trump. it was how i felt about himary. the topic was the mutual hatred of our wonderful choice of candidates. you are the one that went off telling me you didnt care about my opinion of himary and went off in a different tangent.
You said in no uncertain terms that somehow I was okay with What Hillary Clinton did bc I criticized trump for what he did
If you want to discuss something with me
You can’t twist my words
Go back and read your 9:24 post if you need to verify
And If you said the same to me I’d be fine with it
You can’t discuss anything with anyone and change what they said
If you just say
I hate Hillary too, or whatever variation you like without changing what im saying
I’d be okay with a discussion
But if you say that I’m okay with Hillary bc I hate trump – well that’s obviously not what I said
Alright my drive by is over. Fuck Trump. I don’t like that xenophobic bastard but lets see what happens in a general election. Oh and go Phins. And peace to you all even if you are voting for that other guy.
Go Trump! 😀
The Newark Star-Ledger’s Jordan Raanan believes the Giants’ first call in free agency will go to transition player RE Olivier Vernon.
Vernon’s phone will be blowing up come March 9 when free agency opens.
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Good, then we’ll sign JPP, or Robert Ayers.
i read some of that stuff today about OV. hell i heard about it first on a local sports talk show. saying it sucked the fins tagged him. i mean i wasnt shocked the buc fans were all upset they couldnt sign mediocre player that may make 15 plays a year but i was shocked the fins did.
Jahn is here peeking in on us without getting in the political discussion
Jahn why are you hiding?
Early 80’s, my parents, a friend and I vacationed on Lake Champlain, Vermont. One day we went to Montreal about an hour away and my friend forgot he held the weed, not a lot. He had it on him and forgot to put it in the dresser in the cottage, we were with my parents, we weren’t going to toke on this trip. LOL
So we’re getting to the Canadian Border Patrol and he’s getting nervous… he puts it down his pants, lol… we’re sitting in the back of a pickup truck with a cabin on beach chairs facing backwards. We’re talking early 80’s.
The moral of the story is we got through customs without extreme tactics. We weren’t a threat to their country and two young 18 year olds got to eat Pizza and drink Molson’s in Montreal at an establishment when we could not legally do so in the USA. LOL
piggy
i only scroll down, not up. i am not going back to look. i dont think i ever said you support himary. if i did then i apologize. i might have compared something i think she did way worse then anything trump has done, but i dont think i ever said you support her. just that you dont consider her as bad as trump.
just want to state, i hope you get this isnt a big deal. this is just a discussion going back in forth, i am sure in person we would understand each other it us just so difficult on here to get the intent/emotion a comment is written in. by no means have you upset me or offended me or any of the sort and i hope i have not you either. if i have then truly sorry.
It’d not a big deal to me
I just don’t like what I’m saying being mischaracterized and I think you did that and sometimes do it when we argue about other topics
You don’t have to apologize and I don’t think I have to either
It’s not a big deal and I doubt either of us are offended
We can probably just move on it bout making a big deal of it
I probably don’t consider Clinton as bad as Trump, truth be told, but even if I did
I don’t think I have to qualify every criticism of a candidate with criticisms of all the people who may be worse than him/her
Jahn why are you hiding?
wtf is wrong with you. do you see when you worried about being turned into bacon and you were walking around the pen. and only saw four pig prints, that is cause jahn was carrying you. he never hides he is always there for us
Jahn is all about good head… I mean on a beer you perverts. 😉
and the moral to tims story
visit Canada and the next day you will be smoking ass weed.
No plastic bags are awesome. They deter the crotch smell from the product. LOL
It was a good thing those Mounties didn’t care to be SS like.
tim
you wanted the Mounties to write for the Sun Sentinel.
piggy,
everyone here thinks they get mischaracterized during a discussion. that was why i said so hard to get the intent a comment is made ok here. i know you did it to me just i didnt care just know it goes with the flow here.
anyways like i said not an issue. and yeah i am just afraid of trump as himary our president. it isnt like we have good options
and with that i am out folks. if you guys see that god like character n here tell him i said hi and hope all is going well with his beerland venture.