The Wedge Scouting Report: Joshua Garnett, OG

3 -2 -1 Liftoff

Another fine launch GX4!

Oh hey, Dolfans.  Wondering who GX4 is?  He’s my launch specialist.  He’s gets me into space so I can destroy more lifeforms.  And he’s the best.  GX4 has iron will – he never fails me.  Its hard to believe he is a Stanfordulsian.

I know…I know…how prejudicial of me.  I should not judge Stanfordulsians like that.

It’s just that my last Stanfordulsian, Johanna Martian, well he was so soft…

Every time Johanna launched me, he used to cry.  He didn’t want to destroy any planets or lifeforms…what a softy.  He cried so much….he melted…

JohannaMartian

He even reported me to his mother, who threatened to sue my boss, the Alpha Alien.

Well I had two choices: 1. Stop destroying so many lifeforms; or 2. well…

So after I took the second option, they replaced Johanna with another Stanfordulsian.  Oh no, not another marshmallow!!!

I guess I prejudged, because his replacement, GX4 is made of iron and very reliable!

But you don’t want to hear about my launch specialist, you want to hear about football!

Which brings me to Joshua Garnett, an offensive lineman from Stanford.

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So why draft the Outland Trophy winner.  Are you kidding me?

He was the best guard in the country.

At 6-5 and over 320 pounds (depending who you ask) Garnett is a beast of a man.

And he is not soft either!

Joshua Garnett

Quite the contrary.  He’s mean, scrappy and will put you on your Fxeeeblebubbs.

Oh…you don’t believe me.  You think because he went to Stanford, and you’ve had bad experiences with Stanford offensive linemen, that it’s the same thing all over again.

You judgmental Earthling – how dare you.

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Okay, let’s just bury your stereotypes now.  If you don’t – well Garnett may bury you.

Garnett didn’t just win the Outland Trophy in 2015.  He won the Morris Trophy (Pac-12 lineman of the year), and was named first team All American by Sporting News, The Associates Press and USA Today among others.

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It was pancake block after pancake block for Garnett.

Stanford plays a pro style offense.

Garnett excelled at run blocking for Stanford.  He did quite a job in the passing game too.

Garnett is probably ready to play on Day 1 of his NFL career.  He played left guard at Stanford his entire career.

If Garnett was an Alien Weapon of Destruction he would be the dreaded Stanfordulsian Iron Mashmallow….He will put you on your Fxeeeblebubbs!

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Watch his highlights here:

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779 Responses to The Wedge Scouting Report: Joshua Garnett, OG

  1. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    He will put you on Your Fxeeeblebubbs!!!🚀

  2. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Our prior experience notwithstanding I tend to like Stanford OL. They play a style of offense that translates well to player’s transitioning to the NFL.

  3. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    NFL Comparison : Gabe Jackson! SOLD!!!

  4. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Haven’t Stanford OL been busts in recent years?

  5. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Maybe Andrus Peat

    I think DeCastro is having a good career in Pitt
    But he has dealt with injuries

    I can’t think of any other Stanford OL

  6. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Alright. Gotta run for now. Nice job Piggy. See you guys later. Peace.

  7. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀

  8. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    He’s no Martin. Watch what he does at the end of plays too. You can scheme to help out OL, but when he’s still winning when the play is over, it says something about his strength. Just watched him play against Maryland 2014, so every play…

    Not sure I want an OG at #8, but surely in the 2nd.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Being that defense is deep in this draft we can probably go OL in the 2nd rd if we like a guy and still get a good defender in the 3rd and 4th rounds. I think we go defense at #8 though.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      He. Ought be available in the 3rd round
      Maybe even 4th round

      He’s not going to go really high

  9. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Mike, Dilson Herrera looks a lot bigger this year. They say he’s got more pop in his bat as well.

  10. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Andrus Peat will be a good player. He needed a little seasoning

  11. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Not a bad plan!

    Adam Beasley ‏@AdamHBeasley · 3m3 minutes ago

    My suggestion for the Dolphins: sign Williams, sign Lamar, sign George Iloka and let OV walk. Would cost roughly the same.

  12. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim

    You’re right, it was a trade, but he was arbitration eligible, and we did sign him to a 1 YR contract

  13. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Guys that we can still do something with to save cap $
    Savings to cut outright in milliions:
    Wake $8.4
    Grimes $6.5
    Jordan $3.2
    Jennings $4
    Mitchell $2.5

    Suh $18 mil to restructure in a signing bonus.

    Misi’s number will be down a couple of mil once his deal is complete.

    OV, no telling what’s going to happen with him. Replace with Mario Williams is my hope.

  14. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Sign that guy in the blue shorts as our new MLB!

    https://twitter.com/FunnyyVine/status/688513631210856448

  15. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    I almost think langford was a better player at his position than OV is at DE. We let langford walk. I can see us letting ov go. I like beasley’s idea if the numbers work out that way. If we let OV walk then we have to at least sign shelby and wake.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Yeah me too
      But we need a vet on the OL
      Nothing too pricey
      Just some one with experience

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      They’re different type players. OV is more of a weak side end and Langford is a strong side anchor type.

      Wake is signed for the year.

  16. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    This is what I keep mentioning that I’d like to see for Jamar Taylor.

    Ravens coach John Harbaugh said he thinks converted CB Lardarius Webb will be a “really good safety.”
    “He’s got a lot to learn, but he’s a smart football player. He learns fast. I don’t think he’s going to have any problem picking up the position, plus he gives you the flexibility,” Harbaugh said. “You can drop him down to cover receivers in the slot. You can blitz him. He can play outside if you want him to. You can really match up pretty well with him at safety a lot of different ways.” Webb played corner for most of last season, but he played almost exclusively at free safety in the season finale. That should be his primary position in base sets moving forward.

  17. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    8: R1P8
    CB MACKENSIE ALEXANDER
    CLEMSON
    42: R2P11
    G VADAL ALEXANDER
    LSU
    73: R3P10
    OLB SU’A CRAVENS
    SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
    108: R4P9
    G SPENCER DRANGO
    BAYLOR
    147: R5P8
    ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ
    STANFORD
    189: R6P11
    OLB YANNICK NGAKOUE
    MARYLAND
    225: R7P6
    TE TANNER MCEVOY
    WISCONSIN
    229: R7P10
    DE MATT JUDON
    GRAND VALLEY STATE

    Let’s see we do Beasleys plan in FA
    And ignore OL
    We can do a draft like this
    But we better hope those day 3 LBs work out

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      LB is a must in rounds 1 or 2, we can’t waste another yr of Suh’s contract with no one behind him.

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        I think Blake Martinez will be a solid LB & doubt he’s still around in the 5th.
        Cravens seems to be more a speedy hybrid S/OLB.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I am the first to say the same

        I think we need LBs BADLY

        I’m just proposing a different route

        Every mock I do keeps having Myles Jack off the board when we pick now

        So that left me with The top CBs, the top DEs and the next back LBs (Ragland and Lee)
        I almost went with Lee
        But I think Alenxader might end up being a special player

        So I went with the potential shutdown CB

        But this is exactly why we need to add a FA OG somewhere
        So we don’t go to the draft desperate at OL and we have at least a shot at a top tier LB in the first couple
        of rounds

  18. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Armando Salguero ‎@ArmandoSalguero
    Mario Williams wants to visit 4-5 teams but the Dolphins think they can get him at bargain price? LOL.

  19. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I’ve had Garnett on my list in the 3rd round since day one although sometimes I think Drango will be just as good and he should be more certainly available in the 3rd.

  20. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I think Cravens might be too much of a tweener … too light for OLB and too slow for Safety.
    I like Martinez on paper, but he looked like he has lead feet when I watched him.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I do think he’s too light for LB
      I think every team can use a LB like that that excels in pass coverage
      A lot of LBs coming out now are on the lighter side

      He might be a tad to slow for S
      But I’m a little hesitant to say that too

  21. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    We need an enforcer at MLB which we have not had since Karlos Dansby at least. I love Ragland for that role.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I think Ragland is going to be a 10 year core LB for some team. I’d have no problem taking him. He showed at the combine he moves better than some people thought and he’s a thumper. He’s built like the classic ILB.

  22. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    If we can get Mario for less money than Vernon, then we should let Olivier go and plug in Williams with a reboot to his career with our new DC. It would be nice to have someone with a revenge motive on our side for a change in the division. Mario will have huge incentive to wreak havoc on Buffalo.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Those would be two fun games to watch. 🙂

      • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

        He used to be able to just take over a game (like when he beat us that yr) and I don’t think it is his physical skills that have diminished much, just his being in a system not meant for his skillset with a very stubborn HC.

  23. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I am worried that if we wait too late in the draft for a MLB we will get just another guy. That position needs a superstar. We’ve had half a dozen average pros in that spot the last few yrs with no real affect on the WL record. PS: I think Scooby is too slow also. It’s unfortunate. Sorry Piggy.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Yeah Scooby exposed some athletic flaws at the combine. He looked overwhelmed. I like Matakevich better and he could be a 3rd rd guy as a MLB prospect.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Good point about just avg ILB’s over the past several years.
      More & more Ragland does seem to really fit the bill. Morrison seems a good candidate, especially if he could add 8-12 lbs…and that’s what scares me a tad about Ragland the other way around.
      Can he keep his weight down. He ballooned up to what I heard as high as 260, but did shed 12lbs for the combine. Brings back memories of Karlos Dansby when he’d show up looking like an OG…lol

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Ragland is not a superstar though
      You can’t make a player better than he is by drafting him high

      I wish there was blue chip MLB in this draft
      But there Is not

      If I thought Ragland was Keuchly
      I would be all over it
      But he’s not and drafting him that high doesn’t make him that kind of MLB

      Ragland is a solid LB
      But a superstar at MLB?
      My guess is no he is not

  24. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    “A do-it-all linebacker for Nick Saban’s defense, Ragland finished second on the team in tackles (95) and third in tackles for loss (10.5) in 2014, adding four passes defended and an interception.

    He continued his ascent in 2015, being voted the SEC Defensive Player of the Year.

    Demonstrates the blend of size, aggression, instincts and reliable open-field tackling skills to project well inside to 4-3 and 3-4 principles, alike. Takes accurate first steps and shows excellent closing burst to arrive with pop at the point of attack.

    Works off blocks well with balance and anticipation, looking through blockers to keep his eyes on the prize, doing a much better job downhill rather than in reverse. Physical striker with reliable breakdown skills in the open field, wrapping, driving and finishing. Dirtiest jersey on the field and plays each snap like it is his last.” — CBS

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      The thing is
      He wasn’t do it all for Alabama
      He’s not great in coverage
      And he didn’t really have to be at Alabama

      He might be a 2 down LB
      Not saying he is
      But that’s the Ragland risk
      And that’s probably why he’s not a great pick at 8

      I would probably take one of the CBs or DEs over him
      Or even Darren Lee
      And then look to fill that MLB later

      Albeit I think Ragland is solid
      I would be a little more enthusiastic about Ragland with a little more talent around him

      I think Ragland goes in the 20s
      But let’s say somehow he drops to the 2nd round
      And we hit on a player like Ramsey or Jack at 8

      Well then Ragland would be perfect in the 2nd round

      I do not question that he will be a solid pro
      But I think I we might want that 8 of a real difference maker

      The same goes for DE or CB

      There is a shot that Ragland slips to the 2nd round bc of the perception that he is a 2 down LB
      And that is where he is great pick as opposed to a solid pick

  25. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I think instincts at LB are the number 1 quality you look at

    Not athleticism

    Scooby is not a bad athlete anyway

    The thing about Scooby is he can play inside or outside

    So if you take one LB early
    Then Scooby can be your #2 lb in draft day

    And you might be able to nab him in day 3

    Personally I think he will have a bigger impact in the NFL than Matakevich
    And I would take Scooby over Matakevich

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Did you watch him at the combine? He was the worst at drills that I saw.

      Ragland is the best pure ILB in the draft.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Yeas I watched him
        He looked really awkward in the 40
        I didn’t think he was so bad at the other drills
        Except he fell at the end of one drill and did a cartwheel…lol
        He didn’t move as fluidly as
        But on the field he senses the play and attacks
        And that has a lot more value than combine perocmancr to me

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        I agree on Ragland, but Brothers isn’t far off.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        They are really not in the same tier Anyway

        If you have a choice between Ragland and Scooby in any round I think you have to take Ragland

        I’m not suggesting that Scooby is a better looking prospect

        But Scooby is a potential impact player that might fly under he radar if you don’t have a shot at Ragland

        And if you are picking 8, you might want some one with a little more to offer than Ragland
        Like Lawson or Alexander

        If you trade back and get Ragland you might get more bang for your buck

  26. 13kvFINS's avatar 13kvFINS says:

    IFFF 34 year old coming off an achilles injury CWake continues his insistence on not being a team player by not restructuring his contract ??

    F’em & Dump’em !!

    I’d gladly, due to youth/health take (for CWakes price) the similar production through their careers 31 year old Mario Williams (96 sacks/10 years) in place of CWake (70 sacks/7 years)!! http://espn.go.com/blog/miami-dolphins/post/_/id/

    Though if CWake stays ??
    31 year old MWilliams in place of 25 year old OV would not make me happy !!

    MWilliams for CWake at the same 8.4 price of CWake would make me happy !!
    SERIOUSLY DOUBT that CWake will ever again be the same player he was before the achilles!!

    GOFINS!!!
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000641486/article/former-bills-de-mario-williams-to-visit-miami-dolphins

  27. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    By: Luke Kerr-Dineen | March 5, 2016 8:20 am
    Legendary Chicago Bears Head Coach Mike Ditka has some thoughts about politics, and he thinks you should hear them, so buckle up.

    Ditka has been on-the-record supporter of Trump for a while now, and he reiterated that support on radio station WABC on Friday. Thanks to Fox Sports for spotting the clip:

    “Obama’s the worst president we’ve ever had…. Barack Obama’s a fine man. I mean, he’s pleasant. He would be great to play golf with. He’s not a leader. This country needs leadership. It needs direction. It needs somebody that steps up front. We need somebody like Ronald Reagan.”

    Think it stopped there? Then you’re mistaken, friend:

    “There’s a lot of qualified people that are better than [Hillary Clinton]. That’s what I’m trying to say. You know, you’ve got to pick your poison. Does Donald do everything right? No. The people that hate him, hate him, but people like him because he says things that resonate with what they think…. If I were to vote tomorrow, I’d probably vote for Trump.”

    Not sure which cabinet position Ditka will have his eye on, but Secretary of Defense seems like a natural fit.

  28. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, Scooby had really high choppy steps in that obstacle drill. He had heavy feet. I think he would be best as a will ILB in a 3-4 where he can use his instincts to get to the ball. He won’t have enough range to play MLB and I think he’d struggle outside.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      He’s better in the 4-3 IMO
      You want him behind a DL that takes in blocks so he can shoot the gaps and disrupt the play

      He has plenty of range on tape
      You are judging way too much from the combine

      As it turns out combine stats are among the least relevant for LBs
      If we put a list of fastest 40 yard dashes for LBs all time you probably would recognize the names

      Instincts the most valuable trait at that position

      Scooby is not a 1st rounder for a reason
      But when you look to later in the draft he might be a gem

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        The NFL is a major step up from college, everyone is bigger, stronger and faster than what he faced. We’ll see how he fares.

        In the 3-4 the Mike ILB takes on the blocks along with the NT and DEs freeing up the Will ILB to make most of the tackles. He’s protected. The OLBs handle the edges. This would allow Scooby to use his instincts to track the ball and play within lanes and not get caught too often in open space.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Probably a good place for him. But remember, they doubted ZT once upon a time too. 😉

      I do like Piggy’s mention of a trade down a few slots & then still being able to land Ragland. That would be huge.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Zach moved better than Scooby. But hey if Scooby pans out like that as a 5th rd pick more power to him. I wouldn’t couldn’t on it though.

  29. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, I’m not focused on Wright’s 40 time – 4.91 by the way, but the agility drills. I didn’t like what I saw.

  30. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Normally I wouldn’t draft a MLB early unless he’s an athletic freak with great range. Ragland is not that but he’s good at just about everything if not spectacular. I just feel he would help us build our defense up the middle where we would be stout. Receivers running across the short and mid-range middle of the field are gonna get blown up at times. They won’t want to make a living in there. He’ll be a force against the run and he can blitz. He’s not an easy guy to block due to his thick powerful build and he runs well. So if we took him at #8 I’d be okay and move on.

  31. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero 7m7 minutes ago
    Dolphins source says Mario Williams is in the facility now.

  32. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    8: R1P8
    DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE
    OLE MISS
    42: R2P11
    CB JALEN MILLS
    LSU
    73: R3P10
    OLB DEION JONES
    LSU
    108: R4P9
    ILB ANTONIO MORRISON
    FLORIDA
    147: R5P8
    CB RASHARD ROBINSON
    LSU
    189: R6P11
    QB BRANDON ALLEN
    ARKANSAS
    225: R7P6
    OLB CURT MAGGITT
    TENNESSEE
    229: R7P10
    OT BRANDON SHELL
    SOUTH CAROLINA

    Here’s an SEC draft

    Nkemdiche plays DE
    And Mills plays S
    In this scenario

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I like Nkemdiche but he scares a lot of people. They say his character is kind of off.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I don’t know if I buy that

        I guess his college coaches know his practice habits
        So I think they need to verify his character

  33. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, most feel Nkemdiche is a top 10 talent, even top 5 but he didn’t produce the way he was projected coming out of HS as a top rated recruit. He flashed total dominance at times but also disappeared too much for some scouts. I read a report that a few NFL teams said buyer beware on this guy’s character and said no way he’s on our board in the 1st rd. His brother is also a talented S or LB I forget but he has drug issues so maybe the character thing isn’t a myth and far from the tree. You can’t deny his talent though.

  34. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Here’s some intel on a young OLB already on our team.
    http://www.iathletes.com/neville-hewitt

  35. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Jim Schwartz runs a ‘Wide 9’ defense and he did with Suh in DET and Mario in BUF. There’s your appeal and marriage. 🙂

    Let’s make it happen.

  36. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    LOL

  37. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Tim, good point on ‘loosely’ tying the Maril & Suh connection together. 😉
    But yeah, let’s make it happen, why not!

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Mario^^^

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        They both excel in that style of defense. That’s why Mario is in MIA. It’s a good fit.

        As shitty as this sounds, we haven’t won with Wake and OV for years. Signing Suh and drafting Phillips started a new trend. It sounds like Mitchell could be on the chop block as well. Add Mario and we’re in a 2 year win mode. You don’t add Suh and extend Tannehill and Pouncey with 2-3 year visions.

  38. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    The marriage of defensive end Mario Williams to the Buffalo Bills didn’t take long to fall apart.

    Just nine months ago, Williams was pooh-poohing the loss of his defensive coordinator, saying change always happens in the NFL. No need to worry, he said. Things would be fine.

    Not even halfway through the first season under coordinator Dennis Thurman, Williams began grumbling about the change from the 4-3 defense to a 3-4, and the complaints escalated as the production plummeted.

    But that’s not the only reason Williams went from having a $100 million contract to being out of work and talking to the Dolphins on Saturday. The worst of it by far was that as the season wore on, teammates anonymously charged Williams with violating a cardinal rule:

    They said he was quitting on them.

    “Totally checked out,” one Bills player told The Buffalo News, adding, “Mario doesn’t care about anybody but himself.”

    That’s not all. Sounding what today could be construed as a warning sign to the Dolphins and a few other teams Williams indicated he will visit, one Bills player said, “To not give a crap like that shows why teams need to think twice before investing that much in one guy. We could easily have five solid players contributing than one guy who doesn’t give a (bleep).”

    Williams’ poor season and his age (31) means he won’t command anywhere near the $100 million deal the Bills handed him in 2012 to lure him from Houston. He could be an effective and cheaper option to Olivier Vernon, who at least for now has the Dolphins’ transition tag. But before Williams is handed a cent from Mike Tannenbaum and the Dolphins, who run a 4-3, the organization will have to ask tough questions that Williams must be prepared to answer.

    The rest is here:
    http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2016/03/05/dolphins-must-thoroughly-check-williams-who-checked-out-on-bills/

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      If he checks out mentally, then as I said above, those 2 games a years vs. the Jills would be well worth watching him play with a lil sumtin extra! 😀

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I call BS on this. He thrived in Schwartz’s system in a ‘Wide 9′ attack defense in BUF as did Suh in DET. Rex had this 30 year old 6-6 290 DE playing OLB in his ’46’ defense dropping into coverage, WTF?!!!

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        Yeah I agree he wasn’t a fit there, but the accusations by more than one player saying he quit on the team is a RED flag. We’ve been there with Wallace, Martina, etc.

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        Of course we’d know we had him 100% for at least 2 games…lol 😉

  39. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    GD, Mario in a happy system may have 3-4 for more years left in the tank. He’s not a space guy, he sets the edge against the run and gets up-field on the pass rush. He’s a 4-3 DE.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      He’s a 4-3 DE? 😉
      Yeah, that’s the best case scenario for Mario, but I’m leery of selfish me first players. Will Gase/Vance keep him happy when things are going rough?

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        He’s a Reggie White type at LDE. Bro, he’s not an OLB. LOL

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        Yes, I know that. Btw, Reggie was more like a DE/DT in his day. What a football player. God rest his soul.

  40. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Woooooo hooooooo Wedge! That’s my guy! I draft him every mock draft! He works in his off time at IHOP because he is awesome at dishing out pancakes

  41. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    The ‘Wide 9’ formation. Notice the extra distance between the front 4. Then the LBs and a S in the box.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      What does the distance between the front 4 and the LBers and then the safety have to do with the wide 9?

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        To avoid double teams. It’s an 8 in the box spread scheme. You need quickness at every position to play it.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Interesting since the offense is in an I formation. I gues they’re trying to keep funneling AP inside.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      LDE Williams
      LDT Suh
      RDT Phillips
      RDE Moore/?

      SOLB Hewitt
      MLB Ragland
      WOLB Jenkins

      Box SS Jones

      The ‘Wide 9′ is an attack defense. Very similar to the Buddy Ryan Bears ’46’ DEF but from a 4-3 perspective. His sons prefer a 3-4 base and I disagree with that if you have the DL.

      1985 Bears Defense:
      LDE Dan Hampton
      LDT ‘The Fridge’
      RDT Steve McMichael
      RDE Richard Dent

      SOLB Wilbur Marshall
      MLB Mike Singletary
      WOLB Otis Wilson

      CB Leslie Frazier
      CB Mike Richardson
      SS Dave Duerson
      FS Gary Fencik

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        Lots of memorable names there. Loved the goalline plunge with the Fridge as a FB….lol Ditka!

  42. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    We need a S, CB, LB, and DE on D. On O we need 2 OGs. Look at most teams rosters and you’ll see only a few guys that are over the 30. This is happening, because of what you have to pay the players. We can’t have all the high end contracts and have depth too, there just isn’t enough money to go around.

    I hope our new FO has a plan on where to spend the money, so far paying for Suh and RT has been a bust. You can’t just say we’re going to pay 4 guys on D/O 7+ mil, because you don’t know who your core guys are going to be. What it costs for any player above average makes it tough to keep a team good for any length of time. The cheats have done it with only Brady being the mainstay, and they some how only pay him $10 mil. I think Kraft will be paying him for yrs after he retires, or is already paying him under the table. Go figure the cheats cheating.

  43. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Chargers ILB Denzel Perryman will open 2016 as a starter.
    Perryman’s solid rookie year made Donald Butler expendable. He wasn’t a full-time starter until Week 11, but graded as PFF’s No. 2 inside linebacker over the final seven games. Perryman is mostly a run stopper, but could open next season in an every-down role.

  44. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    So Omar called Tannehill physically soft like Charmin TP….my personal message to Omar:

    @Dbolt48: @OmarKelly Enjoy your life while someone else enjoys your wife! https://t.co/ybJ7IWsVK3

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Oh man that’s harsh. Ouch! LOL

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      How could anyone with half a brain call Tanny “soft” after he’s been sacked well more than any QB over the past 4 seasons.
      Tanny may come with many other criticisms, some rightly so, but one thing he’ll nevr be is ‘soft”!
      He’s a damn Timex watch. He’s Roberto Duran. He’s Rocky. He’s True Grit!

  45. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    IN THE WORDS OF KEN: “OL, yeah!!”
    NOT convinced that Joshua is the guy we need. NOR am I convinced he’s NOT the guy we need. —If you sense I’m leading up to yet another “SHOW ME,” you are RIGHT!! I am convinced that one of our top 3 picks MUST be a guard because I want to see our running game flourish AND our passing game to flourish. But it AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN with the current crop of O-Linemen on the Miami roster. WE NEED TO GET BETTER IN THE OFFENSIVE LINE!!
    ———–
    I SHARE some of the misgivings many of us have RE Stanford O-Linemen. Indeed, when it comes to the big uglies up front, I’d generally prefer SEC big boys or BIG-10 big boys over the PAC-10. But, conferences aside, THE RIGHT GUY COULD BE PLAYING IN ALMOST ANY CONFERENCE. T-BAUM has to prove to me that he CAN find the right guy for OUR offense at the guard position. SO FAR, he’s come up with a big ZILCH (for the ‘Fins)!! After his last 2 years in New York and his first year in Miami, I’d have to say T-Baum is NOT likely going to be able to fix Ross’s mess in the offensive line. But I hope I’m WRONG!

  46. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    OD, how bout Schwartz in FA?

  47. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Barry Jackson ‏@flasportsbuzz 43m43 minutes ago
    Dolphins announce release of Greg Jennings and Suh and Misi restructurings.

    Barry Jackson ‏@flasportsbuzz 39m39 minutes ago
    … Those moves had potential to create more than $23 million in cap space. Cutting Greg Jennings saves $4 M in space.

    Barry Jackson ‏@flasportsbuzz 37m37 minutes ago
    …. Dolphins desperately need that space. Have told people they want help at DE, OG, CB. And LB and S must be addressed. Plus RB Miller FA.

    The Dolphins restructured DT Ndamukong Suh’s contract.
    Miami was $3 million over the cap after transition-tagging Olivier Vernon. Restructuring Suh will save them around $15 million.

    Dolphins VP of football operations Mike Tannenbaum said Koa Misi could be moved to middle linebacker.
    Misi is currently penciled on the strong side. He would move inside if Miami’s adds an outside linebacker. Misi played the MIKE role in 2014, but isn’t more than a short-term option.

  48. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    ESPN’s Mark Schlabach termed Florida redshirt sophomore QB Luke Del Rio “the favorite to start for the Gators this coming season.”
    Son of Jack, Del Rio steps into a quarterbacking void with Florida now that the suspended Will Grier’s chosen to transfer. That, coupled with the transition of Treon Harris over to wideout, puts him in this position. The 6-foot-2, 203-pound redshirt sophomore’s making his third Power-5 stop thus far, having transferred to Florida from Oregon State and to Oregon State from Alabama. He’s attempted just 18 passes in his career, but the coaching staff liked what Del Rio did with the scout team during his transfer year off in 2015. He’d best take advantage of this opportunity while he can–four-star QB Feleipe Franks is waiting in the wings and figures to be a contender to start in 2017 unless he’s so spectacular this spring and summer that he forces HC Jim McElwain’s hand early.

  49. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    GD, Hewitt looks like a 2nd rd pick in drills a year removed. But he only played for Marshall and flashed in MIA in the NFL as a rook a hand full of times. Yeah… he looked the part but lets ignore that he played really well on both STs and at OLB. Off we go to the next UDFA crop like he doesn’t matter. Hewitt is a gem and don’t be surprised if he starts. 🙂

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      I’m hopeful for Hewitt, I’ve never knocked him. I am hopeful for Vigil as well. Was sad to see Tripp go, maybe he catches on somewhere soon.

  50. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    LDE Mario Williams
    LDT Suh
    RDT Phillips
    RDE ?

    SOLB Hewitt
    MLB ?
    WOLB Jenkins

    CB Lippett
    CB ?
    SS R. Jones
    FS ?
    NB McCain

    I guess we have some holes. LOL

    • 13kvFINS's avatar 13kvFINS says:

      RDE?? 2nd rounders KDodd/EOgbah/CNassib, or Fede, Moore and hopefully DShelby?

      GOFINS!!!
      VH3 at 8 !!! Maybe RDE Bosa if he falls ??

  51. 13kvFINS's avatar 13kvFINS says:

    Get the F outta town OKelly !!
    “””Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 12m12 minutes ago

    “”What restructuring Suh’s contract LIKELY does is make it difficult to cut him in 2018 or 2019.”””

    He had others too about HIM wanting to cut Suh ASAP!!!
    Sooo fricken jaded about the Fins, and pissed that he’s the only one that’s been dumped/cut via the ole-lady !!

    Wanted to jump his ass, but figure that he’s more likely to get the message if we ignore the POS-TOOL and don’t bother responding!!

    SUK-IT OKelly, GOFINS!!!

  52. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    LDE Mario Williams
    LDT Suh
    RDT Phillips
    RDE Ogbah or Dodd / Wake or Shelby in rotation

    SOLB Hewitt
    MLB Ragland / Misi in rotation
    WOLB Jenkins

    CB Pacman FA / Lippett
    CB Grimes restructures
    SS R. Jones
    FS Sean Davis / Aikens
    NB McCain

    Holes filled 🙂

    • 13kvFINS's avatar 13kvFINS says:

      Goodstuff Getter, but I personally don’t see us keeping CWake if we land MWilliams with CWakes $$$ which he’s greedily refusing to restructure for the good of the team…

      GOFINS!!!

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I think you can work Scooby Wright in place of Hewitt

      💡😛

  53. 13kvFINS's avatar 13kvFINS says:

    “””The Dolphins saved $18.18 million in the Suh move”””
    23.9 total via Misi restructure & GJennings cut..

    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/

  54. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    What kind of fuckery is this???? “But he only played for Marshall……”

    Tim has got some ‘splaining to do!

  55. 13kvFINS's avatar 13kvFINS says:

    “””UPDATE: Mario Williams told ESPN’s Josina Anderson via text that he’d “like to visit four to five (teams) quickly, if possible.””””

    Sounds to me like the Fins gave him a nice offer with a short time-frame

    C’Monnn Super-Mario, GOFINS!!!

  56. uwantwat's avatar uwantwat says:

    Piggy, why the hate against Hewitt? He was playing well late in the tear. I think we just need 1 other F/A LB to go with the other 2 youngsters as I was disappointed with both Shepard and Paysinger’s efforts. D’Quell Jackson or Daryl Smith would come reasonably cheap on a one or two year deal.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I really think he was playing bc of lack of talent

      I don’t hate him
      I just think he is backup/ST material

  57. uwantwat's avatar uwantwat says:

    Someone mentioned Alex Boone as a F/A pickup, he is one I want while we let Douglas and Turner develop. I’m afraid Thomas is strictly a break the glass player for mine. To me there are slim pickings in available F/As this year unless we pay overs. Use the draft properly.

  58. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    Pig,
    As a player I love Garnett in the run game not a huge fan in his pass pro right now. He does have the thing I like which is a singular elite aspect to his game, run blocking, so the coaches can focus on developing his pass pro. As a rookie I’d limit his use to jumbo packages on the GL in running situations. In all honesty he reminds me of Turner as a Brute in the run game & if he were drafted I wonder if the team would kick Turner back to LT and start developing him as Alberts understudy.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Yeah
      His pass pro can use some work

      But I still think he’s good enough to start day 1

      If you draft a guy like garnett, then he competes with guys like Turner, Douglas and Thomas for the starting OG of job
      I hope we bring in a vet OG too

      And a vet OT for depth
      I think that’s what we need to do with the OL
      I don’t think we need to dramatically alter the personnel

      We can have an Albert – Pouncey – James core
      We just need to fill those interior holes

  59. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I like darryl Smith but I don’t think Tannenbaum does.

  60. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    How about Drango in the 3rd?

  61. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    If he falls to the 4th I’d take Kenyon Drake as a KR / RB much faster and more slippery than Damien.

  62. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    8: R1P8
    DE SHAQ LAWSON
    CLEMSON
    42: R2P11
    OLB LEONARD FLOYD
    GEORGIA
    73: R3P10
    G JOSHUA GARNETT
    STANFORD
    108: R4P9
    OLB DEION JONES
    LSU
    147: R5P8
    CB D.J. WHITE
    GEORGIA TECH
    189: R6P11
    RB KEITH MARSHALL
    GEORGIA
    225: R7P6
    OT CALEB BENENOCH
    UCLA
    229: R7P10
    TE JAKE MCGEE
    FLORIDA

  63. uwantwat's avatar uwantwat says:

    We have signed A.J Cruz and Christion Jones. Both are Returners.

  64. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    The Miami Dolphins on Saturday created $23.9 million in salary cap space for 2016 by officially restructuring the contracts of defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh and linebacker Koa Misi and cutting wide receiver Greg Jennings.

    We saved $4 mil off of the cap for cutting Greg Jennings, but when you cut someone, another players contract must take it place, since the contracts on the bottom of the list are min salaries, subtract $450K from the $4 mil and the true savings are $3.55 mil. Likewise when we sign an FA for $4 mil he only counts $3.55 mil against the cap as it currently sits.

    We still have roughly 14 guys at the bottom of the salary cap that most likely aren’t making the team. Replace those guys with about 10 rookies, and the other 4 with FAs. Last yr Parker cost us almost $2 mil against the cap (Beasley #8 2015 Atl $2.6 mil), Phillips almost $800K, Douglas $564, so we really don’t need to save $6 mil like they typically say, more likely $3 mil is what is needed once you subtract off the contracts they replace.

  65. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Not sure where we are exactly with our 2016 cap, conflicting reports cloud it a little. The site I normally go to has us at -$411,000, that includes the Jennings cut, but not the Suh/Misi restructures (roughly $20 mil). I did see one report that said we were at about $14 mil under, but I’m not sure what it included. it did however say the six exclusive rights free agents were included.

    From my count, including the six exclusive rights free agents, and even though I’m not sure what their cap figures are, I don’t think they’re much different than the numbers I currently have for them, so with the $20 mil in restructures minus $411K deficit and exclusive rights signings that leaves us with roughly $18/19 mil under.

    We still have Jordan Cameron and Jordan FF contracts to deal with, so additional cap $$ can still be saved.

    Free agency this yr won’t we what we’ve typically seen, but we’ll still be players.

  66. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    I absolutely agree with Pig’s assessment of Ragland, we need bang for our buck at #8 and Ragland isn’t it, but trading back and getting him, or taking him in the 2nd would be great.

  67. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    uwantwat says:
    March 6, 2016 at 9:40 am
    We have signed A.J Cruz and Christion Jones. Both are Returners.
    Reply

    Very good point!

  68. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    NFL Network’s Rand Getlin reports the Dolphins have approached TE Jordan Cameron about restructuring his contract.
    Ideally, the two sides would reach a deal prior to the start of free agency to give the Dolphins as much cap space as possible. Getlin said any tweaks to Cameron’s contract would be minor.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Kind of an odd situation with Jordan, as he’s only got one yr left on his contract, so the only thing that can be done is lower the 2016 salary, unless they decide to add yrs onto the contract, then the sky is the limit.

  69. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, don’t be surprised if Hewitt starts and becomes a good OLB. He’s a better athlete and just as instinctive as Scooby. 🙂

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:
      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Hewitt may have played more because we were down LBs but he looked good and was productive when he did play. That’s the key. I think there is some good upside with him and we may have found a gem at a position we need.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I’m with Pig on this one, I don’t see the same instincts. Scooby has the instincts, but he just isn’t athletic enough to make the play a lot of times, Hewitt doesn’t have the instincts, but he’s more athletic.

  70. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Armando’s take on our cap now. We have $14.9M in cap space but OV is currently eating up $12.7M at the moment.
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      That’s the report I read earlier this morning, that I mentioned that had us roughly $14 mil under the cap. Seems like Mando isn’t including the Jennings cut even though he mentions it. Maybe he’s including the full amount of the 6 exclusive right FAs, but didn’t realize those guys were already being counted against the cap.

      Mando, Schmando, no one has ever mistaken him for a genius, so…

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        He provides good intel, I just don’t agree with his own opinions on stuff. So if we pull OV’s cap or he gets a bigger offer we don’t match we’ll have $27.6 in cap space which is good enough to plug some holes before the draft.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I’m questioning his $14.9 mil current cap figure, I don’t think it’s accurate. As I mentioned above you don’t get a net cap savings of $4 mil from Jennings (another contract takes it’s place $450K or so), it’s a gross cap savings, and these geniuses like Mando don’t seem to take that into consideration.

  71. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Steve, not sure what you mean by a new contract taking it’s place until you add someone and that figure would be a guy off the street. I think his numbers are general.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      We have probably 60 guys signed right now, the bottom guys are all signed at the minimum ($450K I believe), so when Jennings falls off one of these min. contract guys takes his place. In essence you’re replacing the $5.5 mil contract of Jennings with a $450K guy ($1.5 dead money also is counted for Jennings) as your 53 or 51 contracts that make up the salary cap.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        You mean eventually? If so yes I agree. That’s how it is for all teams. Like I said I think his numbers are general.

  72. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Disagreed on Hewitt. He was known for being instinctive in college but because he played at a smaller school and had a lean frame he went undrafted. He’s a good football player evidenced by his standout play on STs and then when he played LB he made plays. Isn’t that the idea?

    I expect Hewitt to be bigger and stronger in camp this year. I really think we may have found a gem.

  73. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I could see Jennings retiring. He kind of hinted that was a possibility during an offseason interview on Finsiders.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      He can surely still play athletically, but I don’t think anyone is going to sign him for more than a couple mil. He served a purpose last yr, and that was to teach the young guys, they’ve learned and now it’s time the team cut ties. I really don’t understand why he didn’t have more catches last yr, he looked good when he was catching the ball.

  74. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Steve, yeah but if DD doesn’t put out is that better? LOL

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      No, that’s why I don’t like Scooby 😉

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        LOL, so what you’re saying is Piggy is an advocate for prudes?

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Yeah, pretty much.

        He obviously sees something we don’t. When I see his game tape he reads the play takes what looks like the correct angle, then just can’t quite get there fast enough to make the play. Maybe Pig is just watching the highlights, he looks great in those, because it doesn’t show the plays he misses the tackle.

  75. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Steve, that’s the problem with watching just highlights. People who watched Jaylon Smith tape other than highlights saw too many instances where he was never touched and didn’t take on blocks. That’s going to change in the NFL.

    Also the combine is important or they wouldn’t have it. It exposes prospects’ measurements, strength and athletic ability not matching their projection. Remember when Manti Te’o was hyped as the next Junior Seau at 6-3 250 4.5 guy, a dominating MLB? Then we saw him get his lunch handed to him against Alabama, followed by him measuring in at 6-1 240 and a 4.8 guy. He went from top 5 prospect to 2nd rd. He’s been a solid LB in SD and that’s fine, he just wasn’t what he was being projected as during the college season.

    Now take into account a lesser prospect like Scooby who wasn’t impressive at the combine and he’s going to drop too. He was initially ranked as a 3-4 rd LB and some places still have him there, but I think teams will drop him further. To me he’s 6th to UDFA.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I hate highlights, as you probably know by now. I don’t see Scooby as being anything more than a starting NFL LB ever, and I’d take Mike Hull (similar kind of LB) over him every day of the week.

      Scooby is the average at best kind of LB we’re trying to replace now.

  76. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    How can you say Scooby’s instincts are better than Hewitt’s when he’s not even been drafted nor made an NFL final roster yet?
    He may show from a college to college game tape comparison to be better, but until he straps it on with the big boys, then no one can say with any certainty.
    Besides that , they are not really the same style players.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Hewitt started to show a knack for being around the ball. Has good speed, balance, & can flip his hips well in the coverage game.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Yeah man, he looked the part. if you don’t go in with any biases and just see a guy for what he is it’s easy to see upside vs. potential struggles at the next level. Hewitt already proved he can play with the big boys. Now it’s just a matter of whether or not he can take hold of a starting job and not let it go.

        As fans we should view Hewitt as a surprise UDFA with potential and be excited about that at a position we need to upgrade and not as an afterthought as if all the LBs in the draft are better than him because they’re not. A lot of them are going to not be as good and bust out.

        The main flaw I saw in Hewitt were a couple of false steps here and there (learning curve) and not strong enough to make the tackle by himself at times, he held the guy up long enough for assistance. If he gets a little bigger and stronger those guys go down now.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Agreed. Scooby is an ILB and Hewitt is an OLB. But I don’t think Scooby will be better than Sheppard who’s also bigger, faster, a better athlete and a former 3rd rd pick out of LSU. I don’t want to replace Sheppard with the same or a a lesser player, that’s not the goal.

      If you draft Scooby in the late rounds or as a UDFA and he comes into camp and impresses on the field people will forget about his combine results and good for him. But to me that’s what he is, a sleeper who may or may not pan out so you don’t use premium picks on him. I’d have no problem using a 6th on him if we feel his tape is good enough, even a 5th if we really like him. I just don’t see him going any earlier than that and if he does I’ll be interested to see if he can match it.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      You put the game tape on and watch how quick he reacts to the play, it doesn’t matter if its just college tape. The point is moot anyways, because Scooby sucks.

  77. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    I don’t think Scooby sucks at all unless you’re going by his limited 2015 tape. He missed most of the season with meniscus & foot injuries. I think that definitely affected his combine.
    2014 was when he was a force. So as Tim said, he could still be someone’s sleeper gem if drafted late & comes to camp 100% healthy.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      He’d be smart to stay in college his last year. But, hey, who’s to fault him for jumping in the fray now.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Maybe so. What I saw was a guy seeing how other guys were performing and he tried to match that and looked overwhelmed. Maybe he’s not 100%.

  78. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim

    I hope you’re right about Hewitt. I don’t recall being overly impressed with him, but admittedly, i was emotionally out of it at the end of the season, and I probably wasn’t paying attention to details as much as I usually do.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      You see my post about the Phins working on a restructure with our boy Cameron? 😉

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        I did not, and I’m OK with that. I wouldn’t pay him over $9M this season, he’s not worth it. If they can extend him and move a bunch to next season in a prove it to me season, then I’m fine with that.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      He played great int he last game but I know, the Pats didn’t try. LOL

      Actually what they did was try not to get Brady hurt and felt they could win a close game being conservative and they were wrong. They not only lost the game 20-10 but Brady got banged up and they lost home field. 🙂

      Hewitt was one of the best defenders on the field, he was all over the place and covered Gronk nicely a few times. Why shouldn’t we look at that as a positive? He was excellent on STs all year and had good moments in other games at LB as well. We should enjoy that and be hopeful not just say yeah well, he was a UDFA so not good enough. Yet we’ll probably discuss this year’s UDFA class as special because it’s new even though they haven’t done a thing. It’s strange how we look at things in a new offseason, we forget about last year’s class like it doesn’t count. LOL

  79. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    According to NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport, free agent LT Russell Okung is “intent on hitting the market.”
    He hasn’t ruled out a return to Seattle but there’s no harm in seeing what his value is on the open market. Now that Buffalo has franchise-tagged Cordy Glenn, Okung figures to be the most coveted tackle in free agency. The 27-year-old is coming off shoulder surgery but should be recovered in time for OTAs.

  80. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I don’t think I said we shouldn’t view how he played as a positive, I just said I honestly wasn’t really paying attention. I’m a baby, and when my team is out of it, I tend to tune out a little, just my nature. 🙂

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      LOL

      That wasn’t directed solely on you, it’s the vibe I get. It’s like some fans don’t want to accept Hewitt as looking like a diamond in the rough.

      He’s my this season’s sleeper like McCain was last year and he busted in 2015. Not sure what’s up with him, maybe he’s too much of a tweener, not good enough at OLB and not capable of playing significant downs at DE. Maybe he’s a ST’s/backup player only. Piggy tends to think that’s what Hewitt is but his position is more defined as an OLB and I think he showed more than McCain has.

      Remember, Hewitt was signed as a 6-2 220 LB last offseason and got bigger and stronger as the year went on and improved his game. He was playing at 230 late in the season when he was getting more time at LB. We get the progressing Hewitt to start 2016, not the green guy he started as in 2015. That’s what you want – development.

      I expect him to more like 240 this year along with his experience now. The 2nd year is the biggest jump most players make. Not necessarily statistical, but in overall improvement knowing how to prepare etc., they’re not overwhelmed anymore.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Hewitt is listed at 235, as he was last yr. I know it really means nothing, but…

  81. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Cameron’s salary in 2016 is $7.5 mil, his cap hit is $9.5. He has $2mil in dead money, if he is cut. If he’s extended, then he wouldn’t be in a prove it season, as he’d have most likely at least $4 mil dead money next yr. In general you extend proven guys that you want to be part of your team going forward, except for when Tannebaum extended Stinky in NY.

    Options for him this yr, cut his salary, cut outright, or extend for less per yr.

  82. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Hewitt is listed @ 6’2 235 on the official team website roster.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Yeah that’s fine and maybe that’s what he finished at which is what I was saying. He was Nickel LB/S size when we signed his as a UFA or at least that’s what he played at in college, and as the season went on he got bigger and was more ready.

      His path is not much different than Bryan Cox’s was who was drafted in the 5th rd at 6-4 225 had a solid rookie season and showed potential. The next season he was 235 and as a 3-4 WOLB he had 14 sacks. Then we went to the 4-3 and he became the MLB at 245 and was excellent there. We all know that he then went on to be the Bears MLB at 250 for a few years, then the Jets and Pats.

      The moral of the story is what you start with is not always what it ends up being.

  83. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Really it’s raining in Las Vegas right now, not good news for the Nascar Kobalt 400 getting ready to start.

  84. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Hewitt is JAG. He is nice depth, nothing more.

  85. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Josina Anderson ‏@JosinaAnderson 3h3 hours ago
    Mario Williams just told me he had breakfast w/ #Dolphins this am. Leaves today. Received impression owner & staff on same page w/ direction

  86. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  87. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Steve, did you join our Yahoo Nascar Fantasy league?
    http://racing.fantasysports.yahoo.com/auto/group/5592

    Group ID: 5592
    Password: nascar

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      No, went down to the speedway on Thurs for the free down in the pit day, but I’m not much of a Nascar fan.

  88. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Tim if Hewitt was more than JAG why wasn’t he on the field more last year? We had probably the worst LB crew in the NFL last season. To think a 2nd string guy is anything more than a roster spot is just not realistic. The only guy on our LB corp that is of any value is Jenkins. The rest of the crew is fodder. Our LB were epically horrible last year.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Development. I guess you didn’t read much of what I posted. He was a 6-2 220 LB when he started. He grew into the position as the season rolled on. I really don’t get the thinking. Most prospects even high picks go through the same thing. So nobody improves but the next draft and wave of UDFAs is the way to go. It’s the same thing every year. LOL

      A gentleman’s bet, Hewitt seriously contends for a starting OLB spot. A beer next time I see you? 🙂

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        Tim:
        Right now my cat could seriously contend for a starting OLB spot on this roster.

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        But I will take the bet. Hewitt is not going to be a starting OLB for us on week 1. For a beer.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      And there you have it, no player can ever improve from the beginning of yr one to the start of yr two. Parcells was right, if they don’t bite as pups…

  89. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    We’re devaluing Jenkins here. He played on a high ankle sprain all year like Misi did the year before. It happens. A healthy Jenkins is a good LB – see his 2014 stats. Misi is serviceable and versatile. Add talent to the group and see how Hewitt and Vigil holdup in the mix. I expect both to be improved which is a good thing. I’d like to sign a solid vet LB in FA and draft one high and late. You can always add some UDFAs too. Let them all compete.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      If our LBs are as talented as you say then Suh must be greatly overrated. It doesn’t add up with how badly our D played last year.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        No… Jenkins was hobbled all season, Misi moved to SOLB because Sheppard could only play inside, and we had really green depth.

        I’m not saying we were good at LB last year, I’m saying I think two of the 4 UDFA LBs flashed and have upside moving forward. We had secondary issues as well, basically the same problems as the LBs. Not good enough and green depth.

        Add a few impact players there and it can turn around that quickly. It’s not 6-7, it’s 3-4.

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        Tim:
        I think you and I disagree on the definition of flashed. I didn’t see anything special from any of our LBs last year.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I think the D as a unit underperformed last yr, and I’m putting a lot of the blame on Philbin, for screwing things up with his wimpy training camp, and other stupid things he did. I’m giving most guys a free pass for last yr, our safeties not name Jones, don’t get a free pass though they aren’t good. Jenkins and Misi are serviceable, but we really can’t count fully on them, we must have a backup plan.

  90. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    BTW – Ken’s cat is 6’3″ 240

  91. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    I hope that we didn’t push too much of Suh’s salary to future years. That is going to spell salary cap hell for us in the years to come.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      His contract is going to be a problem for years to come.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Sure his contract is going to be a problem, but the $23.5M salary for this yr was put in his contract that it could be paid in form of a bonus, to move the cap to future yrs. The thought was the salary cap will go up about $10 mil per yr, making the % of the contract smaller and smaller. About 4.7M moves forward to each yr, with the next 3 yrs already having the $5.1M counting from the original bonus.

      Future Cap hits:
      2017 – $19.8M
      2018 – $26.8M
      2019 – $28.8M
      2020 – $23.075M

  92. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Suh is only guaranteed $60M. This team is trying to gear up for a run now, if it fails in the next 1-2 seasons we’re going to clean house anyway even with Gase remaining as HC. This is a run with these players lead by Tannehill and Suh. Go Phins!!!

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      But the dead money on Suh after the 2017 season would be $24.3M, so he won’t be cut after 2017. He was signed to this contract to play it out for $6 yrs.

  93. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Some Neville Hewitt,

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