Want to know what an Intergalactic Alien does in his downtime?
Exactly what you think he does.
I’m a bullfighter in my off time
AHH THE RUSH!!!
You make eye contact with the beast
You dance with the Beast
You WIN
But there is one bull I will never fight…
the dreaded TAU CETI E BULL.
I’m not suicidal…this bull has taken off more tentacles than you can imagine.
Speaking of dangerous beasts, the NFL draft is full of beasts that will dominate opposing offensive lines.
Take Ohio State Defensive End Joey Bosa.
Or better yet…run for your life from Joey Bosa.
This beast has a chance to be the #1 pick in the 2016 NFL draft.
And with good reason, this monster racked up 26 sacks and 51 tackles for a loss in the last three season.
He literally ran over offensive tackles like a bull staring at a red cape.
Truth be told though, even if he never posts a double digit sack season in the NFL. He will make his presence known in the NFL.
He will do it by stuffing the run …where he is elite!
Bosa doesn’t go around you. Bosa comes right at you, with a powerful bull rush. Offensive Tackles end up getting push back into their quarterbacks from time to time.
And his hand technique is something else…maybe its hood technique in his case…
Bosa is a local. He is from Earth like most of you. So there is that…
But he has even closer roots to the Dolphins than that.
Like many other prospects this year, he has family ties to the NFL.
Joey Bosa’s dad, John Bosa played for the Dolphins in the 80s. His uncle is infamous Dolphins bust Eric Kumerow
Joey Bosa attended St. Thomas High School in Ft. Lauderdale, the lauded football school that Michael Irvin, Geno Atkins, Giovanni Bernard, Phillip Dorsett, Lamarcus Joyner, Marcus Gilbert and Brian Picocolo all went to.
You would think they built Bosa in a lab where they make monsters who blow up offensive lines. He is probably the ideal 4-3 Defensive End at 6-5 275 pounds.
I’ve seen him compared to JJ watt and Jared Allen. If Bosa has a career ike either of those two he is truly deserving of the #1 pick in the draft.
But rumor has it…he won’t be the #1 pick…and he actually might slide a little bit.
Maybe Bosa even comes back to South Florida to punish Tom Brady.
No matter where he ends up
He is a true destructive weapon.
If Bosa was an Alien Weapon of Destruction, he would be the dreaded TAU CETI E BULL!
Better run!!!
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I guess we’re going to find out this yr about Miller. I hope he plays great, along with OV, Shelby and Matthews. The better those guys play the more compensatory we’ll get 😛
dbolt48 says:
March 12, 2016 at 1:11 pm
This is the best breakdown on OV anyones done. Ian does a great job breaking down film!
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2622035-why-transition-tagged-de-olivier-vernon-will-be-giant-free-agent-bust?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=web-mob-art-mid-145?is_shared=true
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That’s the biggest bunch of horseshit I’ve ever seen. Sometimes teams setup certain players to get sacks, that’s just how it is. You can’t say Suh did this or Shelby did that or the Oline Fdup or the QB made a mistake that’s why OV got the sack, well you can, but… If everyone did what they were supposed to do on O there would never be any sacks. If he got a sack he got a sack, no one laid down for him (Favre).
I don’t think he’s worth the money, but he’s not going to be a bust. 10 sacks per yr is all he needs to a very good De, I think he’s turned the corned and will average that. He’ll never live up to $17M, but that doesn’t make him a bust.
LOL….I don’t see how it’s horseshit, he went sack by sack and broke it down why OV got the sack. Very few sacks of his own doing & yet he’s being paid as the top rushing DE in the league. Ian’s film breakdowns and analysis are some of the best you’ll find anywhere.
It’s horseshit, because when you watch the tape there’s not much difference from the sacks they say he got on his own to the ones that were aided. By the standards given the QB can’t be moved by anyone else an inch. First of all that rarely happens and secondly one of the sacks he said was aided by Suh the QB moved farther away from OV, then was making a stink on the time it took him to get to the QB.
These guys analyzing seem to put in what they want to back their opinion.
https://twitter.com/MDCheer/status/709332249938960384
Randy has been talking about how OV gets a lot of his sacks back to 2013 when he had 11.5. Most of them were on stunts and he was the free man. OV does not generate that hard off the corner rush to consistently beat LTs for a clean sack.
Exactly which was pretty much the point of the article.
OV won’t be a bust but he’s likely not going to be the pass rusher the Giants hope he will. They’ll get great effort from him though.
That’s what Ian’s getting at though….he will be a bust for what he signed for.
OV, although not the Diva, is essentially Mike Wallace of the DEs. Getting paid Top shelf money for the position when he’s not close to a top shelf player. We regretted Wallace’s, Ellerbe’s, and Wheeler’s contracts & it’s not hard to imagine the Giants doing the same.
True on the value of the player. Being that I do root for the Giants I hope OV does well.
Like most players, OV will be the sum of the talent around him. Few players, if any, can single handedly be a force on a bad team. We even saw a poor start and less than stellar year from Suh on a DL with injuries on top of a poor defensive system.
Agree with both of you. I hope the best for OV. Also scheme & surrounding talent is paramount for a successful team.
I can’t wait for some new news to be reported so when I do a search for Miami Dolphins news I don’t have to keep seeing “Wife of Pro Bowl corner rips Miami, calls the Dolphins a ‘Dumpster fire’. She’s not relevant. Her opinion is just as important to us as Brent’s load in her gullet. LOL
C’mon Tim. It’s too early in the morning for those visuals. Don’t wanna lose my breakfast.
Too late. LOL
Find it funny they keep saying that Nkemdiche threw Tunsil under the bus for being there, yet you can listen to that whole interview clip they posted on that page and never once do you hear Tunsil name any player specifically, just that there were other there. Fuckin media people and their click counters.
Nevermind i went back and re-listened to it, and there was a very short mention that Laremy was there that night, no mention that he was involved with drinking or drugs. Like three words and they made the most out of them i guess.
He was also asked that question, it wasnt like he was giving up people to cover his guilt. The question asked was “were there other players with you on that night”
I have only slight concerns with Nkemdiche’s incident, it was stupid and i do think it shows immaturity, so i think it would be very important for him to have good mentoring wherever he goes. I do think though he will straighten out as a pro and be receptive to mentoring, and likely grow from it.
Odell Beckham is immature as are many young players.
Yeah and most settle down as they realize what it really means being a pro. Some takes them a while and most of them never venture too far off the road the way Maziel, Gordon, Blackmon, and Jordan have.
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Didnt take her long to re-activate that account lol.
Fitzpatrick appaently seeking 18mil per contract right now. Getting offers of 7 mil per lol, little tiny gap between those vying for his services and his camp.
Longtime NFL defensive end Chris Clemons is at Dolphins headquarters visiting with team officials today, according to a source.
Clemons, 34, has 69 career sacks, including 37 for Seattle from 2010 to 2013. He started 11 games for Jacksonville in 2014 and had eight sacks and four forced fumbles.
Last season, he played in 16 games for the Jaguars, starting eight, and had 14 tackles, three sacks and one forced fumble.
The Dolphins apparently want to consider multiple options for a significant defensive end role, as part of a rotation with Mario Williams (who figures to play the vast majority of downs) and Cam Wake (the Dolphins don’t want to overwork him). Defensive end Jason Jones visited Saturday.
Clemons has other suitors but will not book additional visits until after this visit is concluded and he sees whether a quick signing here is realistic for either party.
2) Found this notable: WSVN-7’s Steve Shapiro, on his Sunday night show (Sports Xtra), said tonight that he spoke to Dolphins executive vice president/football operations Mike Tannenbaum on Sunday and said Tannenbaum told him that “after the deals they’ve made so far, the 2016 Dolphins would kick the crap out of the 2015 Dolphins. He used another word.”
The Dolphins have added five projected starters (d-end Mario Williams, cornerback Byron Maxwell, linebacker Kiko Alonso, safety Isa Abdul-Quddus and Jermon Bushrod, a tackle who will get a chance at guard), as well as backup offensive tackle Sam Young. The Dolphins also are waiting a Broncos decision on whether they will match Miami’s offer for running back CJ Anderson; there are conflicting reports elsewhere tonight about the likelihood of that.
Meanwhile, the Dolphins lost four starters (Brent Grimes, Olivier Vernon, Lamar Miller and Rishard Matthews), have chosen not to resign Kelvin Sheppard to this point and parted ways with slot corner Brice McCain, receiver Greg Jennings and offensive tackle Jason Fox
I saw that about Clemons visiting yesterday.
Would be two good experienced Ends opposite each other, & rotate a young DE drafted early and learning the ropes. Good plan…IMO.
Id take a shot at Chris Long as well he still hasnt signed
There are some decent OT guys still out there too
GD, yeah we can rotate some vets and young guys at DE to keep them all fresh. Wake shouldn’t be a 40+ snap guy anymore. Even if his Achilles heals well he should be a 25 snap guy mostly on sure passing downs.
Yep, as they say, a team is only good as it’s depth….and I may add, properly used depth!
Then your roster spots have to be filled with starting caliber guys. May mean we see at least tow of the guys previously on our 53 gone this year if we bump them down/off
Only have so many roster spots for each group
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D, we only have 2 legit DEs on our roster right now in Williams and Wake. Fede needs to show more, Damontre Moore needs to mature, Clayton Laing is a CFL sleeper, and Julius Warmsley and Jordan Williams are long shots. Who knows about Dion FF.
we’ll see how many games each play.
What does that mean?
Draft Dodd, Ogbah, or Lawson!
I understand and thats a bad base to build off of when one of those guys still is in real question with an Achilles tear and with potential of re-injuring during the season. I read up on hamstring surgery stuff and the projections arent positive.
Also dont see how you can say Wake is legit when he isnt even able to take the field and recovery time for Achilles is supposedly minimum 12 months to be safe to avoid a high chance of re-injury.
Last year we carried 4 DE’s, not to say that wont change due to the age of some of our players, but as a reference, if we carry same number of DE’s and Wake/Williams are only rotational, then the other 2 have to be starting quality to have the players we need just to be able to rotate. I feel strongly we wind up cutting Wake, just havent done it yet because we dont have a suitable replacement. We need to have depth past those that will be getting decent numbers of snaps.
So lets say for right now we have Wake and Williams, and rotate Fede and Clemmons, i dunno if i feel comfortable just with those guys. Id much rather see Rookie RDE WilliamsLDE, counting on the rookie for most of the snaps on one side and someone like Fede occasionally rotating in and Williams and another vet splitting time at the other spot. I just dont like the idea of going into the season really depending on Wake’s health and a 36 year old behind him to replace him if he goes down.
We finished the season with 5/6 DEs on the roster – OV, Shelby, Fede, Moore, Coples and whatever you consider McCain.
McCain is another guy, what is he and can he find a consistent role to be productive in?
So whose is your 4 DE’s?
who is…
Won’t know until after the draft and I think we could keep 5 because some guys can move inside as pass rushers.
tim,
that means at that age there is a big chance they get injured and don’t play many games. Like wake last year.
Well Wake has been durable until he ruptured his Achilles and Williams has been pretty durable as well. But I get your point. We still need to add young talent at DE.
Dolphins MUST MUST draft better than they have been & start retaining the good young ones, which they haven’t been!
• Yes, we understand the Dolphins walking away from Olivier Vernon and Lamar Miller when the price kept going beyond what they imagined.
But this is disconcerting: Between 2008 and 2013, only 15 of their 49 draft picks turned out to be above average players. And of those 15 good ones, eight left after their rookie contract and/or in their mid 20s (including Vernon and Miller) and a ninth was traded after three seasons (Vontae Davis).
The other six? Brian Hartline left after six seasons, leaving Ryan Tannehill, Reshad Jones, Mike Pouncey, Jelani Jenkins and Koa Misi (generously) as the only remaining above average players from those six drafts. That’s deplorable.
• If the price is right, the Dolphins have by no means ruled out signing a prominent past-his-prime but accomplished free-agent receiver to replace Rishard Matthews and Greg Jennings. Andre Johnson would love to finish his career here; Anquan Boldin, Marques Colston, Roddy White and Percy Harvin (still only 27) are also available.
But they indicated they prefer to revisit this later in free agency.
• Denver has until 2 p.m. Tuesday to inform the Dolphins whether they will match Miami’s offer for running back CJ Anderson. The agent for another free agent who has spoken to the Dolphins said Miami informed him that it’s waiting on clarity on Anderson to know what its cap situation is…. Please see the last post for more Dolphins news from this weekend.
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This last part about CJ, tells me that they could have Alfred Morris, maybe even Arian Foster waiting in the wings.
FAs leaving for big money happens to every team. Even to the steelers and the packers.
Thats why its important for us to start drafting better so we have the guys behind them as a just in case.
The Steelers let a lot of their UFAs go. So do the Pats.
Right, but that wasn’t the entire point of the article between my comments.
We do have to build better thru the draft, period.
I was replying to Boulder’s comment.
Tim,
wake has now missed games 2 years in a row, And we really miss him when he’s out of the game. Last year when he got injured during that pats game the team sunk afterwards.
He played in all 16 games in 2014. He has only missed 3 games since he’s been with us until last year.
Two of them were his first year here in 2009 and that might have been because he was inactive.
Actually i think its been 3 out of past 4, and he had spans of times he played but obviously wasnt healthy because it was really affecting his play. Its a pretty risky gamble to go into the season relying on him as a primary DE for us.
“We do have to build better thru the draft, period.”
GD, agreed!
….and lock up guys like Landry when it’s time….we did that with Tanny.
Yeah if he continues on his pace he’ll have a lot of suitors in FA and he’s not going to be cheap. An extension before FA would be a good thing.
you don’t let player like landry hit FA. He’ll be tagged if not signed prior.
Wake was out for a few games, i think Tanny’s first year for sure because he wasnt there or was out most of the game for the Saints that Monay night where out entire season got derailed and was out i think a couple games after too. He plays through injuries sometimes that may as well be out because he is hardly effective. He has injured his Achilles in seasons before, there is more injury history than you seem to be remembering Tim.
I really thought he had a knee injury a couple of years ago and missed a few games. But maybe he played through it but it showed on the field. Either way I think we need a young DEs to take the majority of snaps.
He did and missed one game but yes he wasn’t 100% for a couple of games. You could say that about 90% of the players in the league when they get nicked up.
Im with ya on that. I think Mario is capable of playing most the snaps, might be better to rotate him to keep him healthier and at full strength by end of the season but i dont expect he will be out more than 30% of the snaps. Way they are talking abotu Wake its almost as if they are suggesting he will play less than half the snaps and at 9.4mil per, we’d be better off cutting him and just drafting a replacement. Id keep him if he came down to about 5mil per.
It’s minor and every player gets nicked up. His stats say he missed 3 games through 2014 and 2 were his NFL rookie year and I don’t think it was due to injury, he was still a backup. So now we’re going to say that’s not the case. I never viewed Wake as having durability issues and still don’t. I’m only concerned about his Achilles injury due to his age.
Cant lock up everyone you have to be selective. Like Vernon, no way could we have locked him up without putting ourselves in a bad position having to pay him 17mil a year. Miller is debatable, but again it depends on the position (Rb being one of the easier to replace) and the market. Landry i think would be smart to keep, Jones is a good player to keep, though with his age we need the leverage to have a player capable of taking over for him because we might bit be able to pay through the nose for a guy who may be out of his peak performance zone.
I can’t complain about anything we’ve done this off season. We’re basically doing exactly what I’d hoped we do, don’t overspend on FA’s, and work in the direction of building the team through the draft, and adding depth through FA.
Yeah they are getting a working base to build through draft off of. I just hope we start getting better success from our picks so that process can really start to take hold.
James and Landry, Parker and Phillips look like they could be a good start to that.
D, if Wake can still bring it off the edge in a limited role he’s still worth half of what OV is making playing half the snaps. Pass rush is valuable.
Tim, OV is worth half of what OV is making.
I’m talking about the perceived FA market for pass rushers. After Williams, we have nobody even close to Wake’s pass rush ability and they’re not easy to replace. I’m not worried about Wake’s cap #, we have plenty of cap space.
Wake was very disruptive last year when he played. Even if only rushes the passer on obvious rushing downs he’s valuable. Not sure about 9.5 million though. But hey its not my money.
If wake stays healthy and can play like he did last year before his injury, I think we should keep him next year even at 9.5m. He’s someone the defense has to game plan for.
Agreed, he’s a UFA next year so that’s probably when we move on from him. He’ll be 35 then.
The Dolphins’ offer sheet to restricted free agent C.J. Anderson contains a signing bonus of $5.25 million that must be paid by March 31.
Including bonuses and salary, Anderson’s first-year pay will be $6 million, tying DeMarco Murray for the NFL’s third highest 2016 total payments among running backs, behind only Adrian Peterson ($11 million) and Doug Martin ($8 million). Klis reports the Bears offered Anderson a four-year, $19 million deal — more than Miami’s four-year, $18 offer — but Anderson preferred the familiarity of new Dolphins coach Adam Gase’s offense. The Dolphins intentionally frontloaded Anderson’s offer sheet in order to make it more difficult for the Broncos to match. Denver has until Tuesday at 4pm ET to make a decision.
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OD, that’s some smart negotiating, and yes, FA’s do wanna come to Miami. I guess the Doofus Brigade can’t be all bad. 😉
In particular most the ones that have been interviewed have credited the personality of Ross to be a reason for them to be excited to sign with the Phins.
Boulder
That’s a big if with Wake. I’ll be really surprised if he’s anything close to what he used to be.
I will too. I looked up Achilles surgery and they said 12 month unless you want to deal with a high chance or re-injury, infection, etc. So if they are smart and allow him to ease his way back to avoid complications, we are looking at half a season without him.
He’s reportedly already way ahead of that.
You maybe right. Achilles is a tough injury to come back from. But Wake is also a gym rat. I wouldn’t bet against him.
That and he’s very strict what he puts into his body. Not all players are the same.
His age is the biggest concern and as well conditioned as Wake is, he can combat age either. None of us can.
Tim also you are comparing apples to oranges, OV is a 25 year old ascending player, Wake and Williams for example are not, so you want to compare pass-rushers, you compare Wake to Williams. Starting off, Williams is making less than wake, so even if Wake was to be playing at Williams number of snaps. then Wake should take a pay cut. They are also insinuating that Williams will be ont he field more than Wake because Wake will be a “situational” guy. I would expect then that Williams plays about 75% of snaps, and wake about 35%ish, so to me Wake’s pay should reflect about 50% of Williams, so saying 5mil isnt a random just pick a number out of the blue thing, im actually paying him according to output. 5mil would be a decent pay for a aging, declining pass-rusher who will play a very reduced number of snaps.
If Wake can still get off the edge like he always has he’s worth it. You don’t have to think he is, but I do. I also said nobody on our team other than Williams has Wake’s pass rush ability so I did compare them. Under $10M per is not a lot for a pass rusher. I used OV as an example because that was the market for pass rushers and he’s not even close to Wake as a pass rusher.
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TFY Draft Insider’s Tony Pauline reports that it’s “almost universally accepted at this point” that Clemson edge rusher Kevin Dodd will be selected before teammate Shaq Lawson.
“The question now is how early in Round 1 will Dodd be selected?” Pauline wrote. My did that tide turn quickly. At last week’s pro day, Dodd added to the hype machine. He stood on his Combine forty (4.86) but was a full participant otherwise. “Dodd looked terrific in both defensive line and linebacker drills, displaying a lot of athleticism and ease moving around the field,” Pauline wrote. Dodd posted a 30.5-inch vertical jump, a 9-foot-2 broad jump, a 4.44 second short shuttle, a 7.31 second 3-cone and also completed 22 reps on the bench press.
Dodd has the classic 4-3 DE frame but I still think Lawson is right there with him. I like them both.
I like em both too, as well as Ogbah. Those 3 are the Wake style replacements for me.
I’m really surprised by that
I think of Lawson as a top 15 pick
and Dodd as a fringe 1st rounder
I think I would rather have Lawson
I like them both though
I didn’t realize Marcell Dareus also signed a huge contract.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/marcell-dareus/
Yeah, they locked him up before anyone could sniff his foot like Rex does.
I didn’t realize his deal was that big. It was just another example how much top DTs get paid.
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette’s Ed Bouchette said it “sounds like” free agent S Eric Weddle is leaning towards signing with the Patriots.
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Don’t do it!
Weddle has been really good throughout his career but is he still all that?
Of course he says that. He wants to sell tickets LOL.
“Mike Tannenbaum on Sunday and said Tannenbaum told him that “after the deals they’ve made so far, the 2016 Dolphins would kick the crap out of the 2015 Dolphins. He used another word.””
Until fans see it on the field nobody is going to buy any hype because last season blew up in everyone’s face.
Especially OD 😉
Wake keeps himself in good shape
I’m betting on Wake
Management also sees him in the building so they know where he’s at.
Yeah, he’s in the building, that’s where he’s at…lol
LOL @ gdp. I agree if he’s in the building… he’s in the building.
Heeeeehhhh… hardy har har guys!!! LOL
LOL…but there is some truth to Wake being great with diet & conditioning. He should bounce back and play at a high level for 1-2 more yrs….IF he’s used properly on snap counts as other here have eluded to.
MMQB:
Eagles executive vice president of football operations Howie Roseman believes there is a “big dropoff after 10 players” in the 2016 NFL Draft.
Roseman cites this as the reason for moving up from No. 13 to No. 8. This is just one executive from one team giving an opinion, but it could offer a keyhole for us to peek through for how the NFL views this year’s draft. Every team’s board is different, but many times the top prospects are repetitive, albeit in a different order, so this sentiment could be a consistent theme as we move forward in the draft process. Roseman said the team had “missed out” on their target in previous years due to picking later in the draft.
We might have thought there was a dropoff after 5. I don’t think there is a big dropoff after 10 based on how these guys have all moved around.
Depends on what you’re really looking for. I think the draft has some deep areas, & some very shallow areas.
I think DE, DT, OLB, & are fairly deep areas. While CB, WR, QB & TE are not.
OL has some decent choices, as do RB’s & S’s.
Philly has a new HC & may think the #8 could net them a QB they want, or even LT since Peters is getting old & has an expensive cost.
Collins is a solid RB candidate.
gdp
Uh, yeah, hence the reason I didn’t like giving up that #8 pick. If you figure there are 5 key positions in the draft(QB, DE, CB, DT and OT), you take yourself out of the running for the chance to draft one of the top two players at those positions. You could even say 4 positions if you don’t think CB is a key one….that leaves 8 players. Now, that’s not always the case, but the numbers aren’t on your side. I think both players we traded for better be productive starters for us for at least 2 years, or it was a bad trade. Sure, we may still get a good player, but we’re out of the lottery to pick one of the top players in this draft, for the most part.
Depends on what you’re really looking for. I think the draft has some deep areas, & some very shallow areas.
I think DE, DT, OLB, & are fairly deep areas. While CB, WR, QB & TE are not.
OL has some decent choices, as do RB’s & S’s.
Philly has a new HC & may think the #8 could net them a QB they want, or even LT since Peters is getting old & has an expensive cost.
Dodd, Ogbah, Lawson….all three shouldn’t be gone by #13…now as for CB, you ‘may’ have an argument there, but I still think a top tier type can be had in 2nd.
If we want a LT of the future, then Stanley or Conklin could be there, & for sure Spriggs.
If we lose out on CJ back to Denver, then Zeke might still be there @ #13 as well.
So I’m not gonna think for 1 sec that this was a poorly executed trade down until we see how the rest of FA shakes out & how the draft goes in the top 10.
gdp
Not really. Yeah, every draft is different. There are definitely good players outside the top 10. I’m not trying to say there aren’t. Still, your chance of drafting an elite sort of player is better the higher you pick. It just is.
Randy,
Yes & No. You just said, every draft is different. We don’t know how Miami has their draft board set up. They seemed comfortable making the 5 spot drop & acquiring ‘needs’ at the sametime.
We’ve blown Top 3 picks before, so do other teams. So I’m not gonna stress about the trade down. It’s not like we traded our 1st & next years 1st to get some player we thought was elite.
We still have our full compliment of other draft picks in 2016.
Besides, who wants to draft top 5 or even top 10 every year? I’ll take drafting at #24 or higher every year, like Miami used to under Shula & Marino. Hell, that’s how he got Danny Boy @ #26!. 😀
DE and DT is very good and deep, LB is solid as is CB and S, and OT and G is also pretty good.
Howie Roseman is one person with an opinion. I haven’t heard any draft pundits say there’s a big dropoff after 10 which is such a convenient # isn’t it? How about saying top 11 or 14 so you don’t sound so typical. LOL
The only elite prospects I’ve heard in this draft are Tunsil, Ramsey, Jack and Smith was pre-injury. Bosa seems to have dropped out of that conversation and is considered more good all around than elite. Maybe Stanley has elite ability and none of the QBs are considered elite though two could go top 10 easily.
We all went back and forth with about a dozen options at #8 now all of a sudden the pickings are slim. Not buying it. LOL
The key is not where you draft, but WHO you draft. You got to hit on 2-3 of players min each year that can be the type of starters that you want to extend at the end of their rookie deals.
This is usually found in the early rounds, but sometimes in 4-6th, even 7th rd & UDFA’s as well.
Ya gotta have a keen staff that knows how to pick em!
gdp
I’m just not as convinced as you are that Maxwell and Kiko are gonna be solid starters for us for multiple years.
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Why would Philly trade away a young, talented, cheap and HEALTHY MLB if he is truly that? Them giving up Kiko makes no sense if he’s the sort of player people here keep claiming he is. Maybe Philly has some guy waiting in the wings…that I don’t know. But otherwise…them trading away a young stud at MLB makes no sense….and makes we skeptical.
I think Philly cutting Alonzo had a lot to do with him being a Kelley guy and potentially not a fit for the new guy’s scheme. If you look Schwartz went and got a guy he was more comfortable with to man the middle for him. It certainly wasnt about money. I dont think it was about talent, even his film from Philly wasnt shit, i think it was about regime, and they wanted their guy, not Kelley’s.
He was part of the deal that we wanted. That’s how trades work. You don’t say here we’ll give you this and you give us your crap. LOL
I don’t care how deep they are. There are still only a couple of guys at most positions that are considered the cream of the crop most years. Those guys go in the top 10. You don’t get a chance to pick one of THOSE GUYS very often.
…and those guys go to teams that are perennial losers…lol 😉
We got to break out of that current mold.
Tim i think you still miss the point, the market for OV is different than the market for Wake, cut him and you will find that out. You wouldnt go to a used car lot and pay new Lamborghini prices for a 87 pontiac firebird, even the Trans Am model. You may believe its a good price, but its not. Boulder said it earlier, its not my money but i wouldnt have that much money tied up in DE unless i had that kind of production tied up in it. I get you love the guy, i love the player but the player doesn’t make fiscal sense anymore. Williams is a much more viable option and he is getting 8 mil a year how can you say Wake is worth more, or that the market says Wake’s value is good, when you got a guy on our team whose contract says you are wrong.
I’m not missing the point, you and I disagree on Wake
That’s it, I’m all aboard drafting Noah Spence😁
gdp
Exactly, and you break out of being an average team by accumulating better talent…the best talent you can get. So, you don’t give up an opportunity to draft one of those sorts of players like we did.
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Anyway, enough bitching…it’s over and done. Time to draft some guy who can keep us mediocre. Lol
D,
That is a possibility but why? From what we’re told, Kiko is a talented young MLB. How does any HC not want to keep that sort of player on their team? Sounds like a red herring to me.
Jim Schwartz is paranoid…lol
He’s getting the band back together with every past player under him that he can get Howie to sign. He’ll he’d take Suh too, if a deal could be made. 😉
Lunch is over….later fellas.
Take Care, & Relax will ya?
Ev’ting gon be alright mon!
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-dolphins-executive-mike-tannenbaum-seemingly-pleased-with-offseason-moves-20160314-story.html
Seamingly pleased
😮
@JoelAErickson: LSU linebacker Deion Jones clocked at 4.39 at Pro Day, according to the board
Woop Woop
Wow!
Interesting dynamic here.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/14/concealed-weapon-owner-shoots-hatchet-wielding-attacker-in-wash-7-eleven/
Deion Jones ⚡️
I was just reading some news and came across something about North Korea and reminded myself that they call themselves the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. Can that be anymore inaccurate? LOL
LOL, sure why not. The US still tries to refer to itself as a democracy, but that’s been eroding bit by bit over the years. Many say America stopped being a Republic back during the Act of 1871.
Now the US is more an Oligarchy.
Yeah but we’re nowhere near what NK is, come on man. I don’t care what some people call us, I still feel free for the most part.
LOL, good point. Kim will feed ya to the dogs over there, LITERALLY!
Lol
https://twitter.com/bruhmedia/status/709214936522579969
LOL, I’ve heard that Charles isn’t all that knowledgeable about college BB.
WOW, on Deion Jones’s pro day friendly time. His combine time was 4.6 .
He’s an other tweener type. His speed will attract many suitors who use their LB’s in coverage more. I’d take him here in Miami, especially if he can add some more muscle weight, get better at taking on blockers.
There were some reports that the way they scheduled some stuff, a lot of prospects were exhausted at the combine during drills.
Some had to go through the vertical and broad jumps before running the 40. I honestly do not believe 4 jumps will affect the 40 time. What I saw at the combine were guys who had a problem getting a proper stance before the start of the 40.
I’d take him round 2 or 3 before taking Lee in the first.
Very good fall back option, especially in the 3rd.
Go some combination of DE, CB or OL in the top 2 rounds
GD, Kim kills his own family members due to paranoia. I can’t believe dictators like him still exist.
Dennis Rodman’s bestie. 😉
LOL, well Rodman is from another planet.
I wouldnt draft Ogbah at 13, he isnt that consistently good to have the guarantees you want from a first rounder. Bullard is better than Ogbah. Talent wise Spence is better than Ogbah. Nkemdiche is better than Ogbah. Id rather have Leonard Flloyd as a DE than Ogbah. He has good stats and he looked dominant in some games but others he looked very average. Im really concerned that the talent he looked best against was inferior talent. He would show good and then disappear in the same game a lot of times and there were some game he looked about as average as ya get. He is going to have to be coached up some and i have suspicions about his motor as he definitely doesnt go full out every play. I really dont know what you guys see in him that make you so high on him.
I’m not high on Ogbah.
GD/Tim there were a bunch of players who were worn down and a bunch that had a touch of the flu/were sick. Several players has bad combines these year and they said even some of the NFL staff people got sick.
Yeah that and they were up really early and had really long periods of time before actually did anything.
Deion Jones worth can easily be seen in his game film, both in him flying around on defense and his ST play. I have no doubt that if we run a speed defense and want a striker who flys to the ball that we get a good pick in Jones. He is a footballer and he doesn’t leave anything on the field. Big fan.
Yeah
I agree
forget the 40 times
the reality is – he’s fast
He plays fast
Vikings Buzz @vikingsbuzztap 2m2 minutes ago
http://thevikingage.com >> Josh Robinson signs with Tampa Bay Buccaneers http://buzztap.com/-1TKlOg
He decided to sign with a REAL ORGANIZATION not a dumpster fire.
LMAO!!!!
Don’t forget to watch Path to the Draft on NFL Network tonight! “Inside the Miami Dolphins War Room”
Here is an early look courtesy of Miko
LOL
Won’t see it in time.
Miko’s mouth is a dumpster.
That she is.
Jalen Mills looked really good in his drills at pro day, just got through watching some of the clips, he moves and changes direction really fluidly.
I really think its funny though that anyone thinks that by the time things are done in TB that she will be acting any differently towards them. She was at odds with the Flacons and praised us when we picked him up, then she falls out here and now praises TB. TB when they cut out are going to be in the same boat im sure, thats the pattern with her.
She’s a psycho.
who cares about grimes and his crazy wife. They’re tampa’s problem now.
Mike E. says:
March 14, 2016 at 3:26 pm
Miko’s mouth is a dumpster
Correction Mike, her mouth is a dumper….always full of shit!
Bolt, you don’t get high on some good ogbah?
Its rumored that Nkemdiche was high on Ogbah when he fell out of the hotel window
Ah ha! Good work sleuth. 😉
They found some ogbah in his room.
Bucs signed CB Josh Robinson, formerly of the Vikings, to a one-year contract.
The No. 66 overall pick of the 2012 draft, Robinson had a strong rookie year, but has steadily faded. He tore his pectoral last summer, and ended up playing just six regular season snaps. Still only 25, Robinson is a depth signing with a bit of upside. He has 4.33 speed.
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Screw him! Let’s get the other Robinson…Patrick, former 1st pick from FSU!
420…..time to go smoke some ogbah!
I saw a piece on Real Sports that basically said a lot of NFL players smoke weed and prefer it for pain over prescription drugs. I think the NFL is still against it for PR reasons but once most states legalize it I think they’ll get on board.
Seeing players like Martavious Bryant get suspended a year for smoking marijuana
while players like Ray Rice get 2 games for domestic violence is unconscionable
the NFL has questionable values
Agreed and NFL teams actually took care of Ray Rice’s suspension by not signing him.
The same might be happening to Greg Hardy right now.
Tim, and it should happen to D’Qwell Jackoff Jackson!
There was no clear policy in place when Rice KOd his girl. The NFL f Ed up and they knew it.
3/5 family members have caught this virus that’s going around. I’ve been laid up since Friday night, went to the Drs today and they ruled out the flu and pneumonia. I’m not a big complainer, but I’m freaking dying here. Chills and sweats are gone, but fever and horrendous cough persist . Fingers crossed my daughter and wife escape this! If my wife goes down with the house is doomed!
feel better Brian
Thanks. Just got some cough syrup with codeine so hopefully I’ll sleep tonight. I haven’t had a good nights sleep in six nights.
That sucks, bro. Feel better.
You seem to be seeing more and more of this.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14971214/bj-raji-green-bay-packers-take-hiatus-nfl-rule-return-2016
no one wants to play in the league very long anymore
They don’t want to live the 2nd half of their lives in pain.
It just shows you how hard this game is on these guys. If they are smart with their money the can easily do this.
Brian, cough syrup with codeine always worked for me. It always had a purple label and flavor.
LOL
Lol. At this point, I would take it from him it it made me feel better. I can’t be worse than the nasal probe with the long q tip they used to do an immediate flu test. That was brutal.
Thanks Tim. It’s prescription, so it had better knock my ass out.
These guys are in pain yr long and the league won’t let them smoke a little week, what a bunch of BS. It reminds me of the republican good ole boys club.
Weed
I wonder if we’ll try to trade back again. Accumulate picks to restructure the team as these guys want it. That’s what this sort of draft calls for, if it is actually a deep draft. It seems like we hear that almost every year though. It’s all about hype these days.
I’m all for trading back further. These guys drafted early have a better chance to be a bust than a great player, and even the rookie contracts aren’t cheap in the 4th yr. Look at what Dion Jordan is making this yr.
What does anyone think about bringing in C. Clemons? He’s on the wrong side of 30, but he’s still got plenty in the tank to be a 3rd DE. If the money is right he’d be a good addition. People in the media get all worked up about the players age, I can see them worrying about it, if the player gets a large guarantee, making the contract run several yrs, but someone like Williams with 2 yrs, give me a break.
They talk about some teams (jets) not having enough middle guys on their roster, how can you when those are the guys making all the money?
These young guys know what they’re getting into as a professional football player, nowadays. There are a lot of jobs that are really hard on your body….very few of which that probably pay you hundreds of thousands of dollars at the least to do it. These guys are blessed to even be in this spot. Many people aren’t. They’re making a well-informed choice to put their health at risk to earn a lot of money and play a game most of them love for work. Smoke all the weed you want and love living the dream! Lol
Sign him to a low range 2 yr contract, and the risk is minimal.
This one got posted under the wrong post, should’ve been the one below.
It’s not about smoking all the week you, just like drinking you have to be responsible, see Manziel.
steve
I wouldn’t mind giving Clemons a look. We don’t really have a guy who’s played RDE a lot. Clemons may get you 5 or 6 sacks if he’s used right. He’s a solid journeyman. Ya never know when those guys just drop off for good though.
Randy says:
March 14, 2016 at 6:33 pm
I wonder if we’ll try to trade back again. Accumulate picks to restructure the team as these guys want it. That’s what this sort of draft calls for, if it is actually a deep draft. It seems like we hear that almost every year though. It’s all about hype these days.
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WTF! Is this Jekyll or Hyde?
Earlier today, around your lunchtime, you were debating me on how you didn’t like the trade down with Philly, and how we’re blowing a chance to land a top pick @ #8??? LOL 🙄
I don’t see that as playing both sides. Big difference being at #8 and #13.
Yeah, 5 spots & 2 vets that were starters, both still on the good side of 30.
I just watched the segment on the Dolphins on path to the draft and now I don’t even want to watch the draft see you guys next year
LOL
Stop making a beautiful ass out of yourself.
Just so I’m clear on this, does Dion FF still get paid all this time he’s been suspended?
No we did not have to pay him
If he is reinstated this year then we will have to pay him or take a cap hit for cutting him in his final year of his contract
Biggest draft bust ever for the Miami Dolphins
Earlier today, around your lunchtime, you were debating me on how you didn’t like the trade down with Philly, and how we’re blowing a chance to land a top pick @ #8??? LOL 🙄
I know right? LOL
I was going to let it pass.
Earlier I was busy when I read his post but I was going to reply that they were actually more players picked at number 13 who made it to the Pro Bowl then were picked at number 8
gdp
Yeah, I did. I didn’t say we should trade down. We’re already out of the top 10 now. In thinking about what they may be thinking and the moves they’ve made, it made me wonder if they may be considering it in a supposedly deep draft. How is that confusing? Lol
You guys need to stop smoking weed if you don’t understand my posts. Lol
Or maybe we should start
Excuse me, but I’m high on ogbah.
I was thinking about the draft today based on what some radio callers talk about with their teams and it made me think, before we traded back many fans wanted Myles Jack over and over as if he’s the main thing we need to be relevant again. Then I thought to myself, no matter how good he ends up being or maybe not as great as everyone thinks he’ll be, one LB is not going to change things that much mainly due to it not being a primary position. It’s not as if he’s going to make every tackle and shut everyone down in coverage. We really need a better overall LB unit and better depth, not one projected super star.
I’m sure there are going to be other LBs in this draft that are good who can help us and we should probably hone in on DE and CB on defense and a top quality guard to add to the competition and really push the guys we have. I think that will change our fortunes more so than the top LB prospect.
Joseph said he feels the key to playing great defense is pass rush and outside coverage. There’s your DE and CB targets.
I was gonna add what VJ said, but saw it at the very end of your ramble, err post. Good job.
LOL, thanks.
That’s pretty much what I’ve been saying, we don’t need a super star we need more overall depth. We can’t have the LB, S, and G play we had last yr. You’re only as good as your worst player (on the) was never more proven than our team last yr.
Rock,
So, if I offer you your choice between the #8 pick and the #13 pick, you take the #13 then? Seriously. Let me guess, you read an article? Lol
….from the annals of obscure stats….but it is interesting.
Getter you’re the wrong guy posting that to Randy, it should’ve been Rock and his annals.
LOL
NFL suspended free agent S Taylor Mays four games.
He’s violated the substance-abuse policy. Mays was already in danger of falling out of the league. This might just about do it for the 2010 second-rounder.
That’s a lucky break for his team, he sucks. Watched tape of him coming out of SC, and he can’t cover worth a darn.
I do think we need to find a way to pressure QBs more. Scheme? Personnel? I’d draft the best edge rusher I could at 13 and then go from there…unless a guy I had rated really high slipped for whatever reason. And…who knows…maybe they do still have faith in Dion Jordan.
Joseph says he’s got some ways to get Suh out of double teams, which is going to lead to more pressure.
I think that wide 9 defense is one of those ways. Spread the DL out and have your LBs and a S crowd the box. Double Suh and you get a free lane to the backfield from one of them.
Nobody could possibly have faith in Dion FF. They might believe in his abilities, but he’s got to show he can turn in a full season or two, without off field problems before he restores anyone’s faith.
If BJ Raji is going to be taking a year off to let his body heal, then he better lay off the Lil Debbie snack cakes too!!! I’m just sayin.
Steve, it would be nice if we hit on a prospect or two that becomes a stud, but to rely on it when you make the selection could leave you disappointed. So yeah getting deeper and lessening weaknesses probably goes further than just a top prospect everyone gets all gaga over.
Our season came apart last year not because we didn’t have some very good players, it was that we had too many green and sub par players in the lineup. That’s what we’ve been doing so far this offseason, adding more competent players with proven production so we can now let the young guys compete to overtake some of them through performance.
Yep
steve
There are always tweaks you can make but that doesn’t mean they’ll work! Lol
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I think we need to bring in some youth at DE anyway. I’m not stuck on DE in the first, but it would definitely be in the mix.
Agree. No one knows if it will work, but to have ideas and a plan is a great start, unlike whatever it was we had the last couple of yrs.
What’s worse, signing Maxwell (Eagles) at about age 25 to that huge contract, without really knowing who he is, or us this yr trading for Maxwell, and signing Williams, and maybe Clemons?
These guys are old, but the chance they perform at least to their contracts is pretty good, with Maxwell being the most risk, because his contract is larger.
The way I see it is our FO is making moves that give us outs. Maxwell, Williams, and Alonzo are on 2 yr contracts, with Maxwell’s possible going a bit further, if he’s worth the money. What I’m used to seeing by our FO is large contracts to FAs that don’t perform and we’re stuck.
What I’m getting at here is I like what we’ve been doing, instead of recklessly throwing money at these 25 yr old guys going into 2nd contracts, we’re being cautious by giving us outs. The Cameron contract last yr kind of followed this practice, because of the 2 yr length.
Maxwell has a body of work to go by. We wouldn’t have made the deal if we didn’t like his skill set. He’s going to be one of the starters for sure.
That was a false report that we extended Alonso. He’s still with one year left on his rookie deal. He’s in a prove it year.
Dion FF has lost his bonuses due to being suspended. If he does it again we don’t have to pay him the bonus again. If he stays clean for a short time and gets suspended again he has to give it back like he already had to. So the risk reward at this point isn’t that bad unless the team just wants to move on. His 3rd rd pick status has already busted his first 3 seasons.
What does this all mean for his 2016 contract?
3rd overall pick
steve
That’s partly why I started wondering if they may be looking to trade back, get more picks the next couple years and build the team their way over the next few years. I’m not saying they should or are….just wondering if the way they’ve done things lends itself to that sort of strategy.
Dion’s contract:
Contract Notes: •$15.5M initial guaranteed (Signing Bonus + 2013-16 base)
•2014 Roster Bonus: $845,104
•2015 Roster Bonus: $1.69M
•2016 Roster Bonus: $2.53M
•Suspended for the entire 2015 season (contract tolls to 2016/17)
•Base salary guarantees void per drug suspension
contract tolls to 2016/17 – What does this mean? Typical sports writer using a word out of context.
I would think it means the 2015 yr is removed and the contract is pushed out a yr, making 2016 have 2015s numbers and 2017 have 2016s numbers, but that’s not what any site shows.
He lost a big portion of everything in red.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/dion-jordan/
He lost bonus money and salary for last yr, but his 2016 contract still counts as written.
The Miami Herald reports the Dolphins are “open” to giving suspended DE Dion Jordan another chance if he’s reinstated when first eligible in April.
That’s provided he’s “clean and has a good attitude” after being suspended for all of 2015. Jordan was shaping up as a mega bust even before his mega ban, but with Olivier Vernon headed to the open market and Cameron Wake recovering from a torn Achilles’, the Dolphins are in no position to turn away potential pass rush help. Jan 28 – 10:23 PM
Posted by Mike Florio on April 29, 2015, 6:51 AM EDT
Jordan
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The one-year suspension of Dolphins defensive end Dion Jordan will cost him a year of football. It also will cost him plenty of money.
For starters, he’ll lose his $585,000 base salary. He’ll also not receive a roster bonus of $1.69 million due to be paid at the start of training camp.
Most significantly, $3.335 million of previously-paid signing bonus will be forfeited, meaning Jordan will have to give back that portion of his $13.34 million signing bonus.
That’s a total of $5.61 million lost by Jordan due to his suspension.
Once the Dolphins collect the $3.35 million, they’ll get a salary-cap credit. And they’ll continue to hold Jordan’s rights, if/when he’s reinstated. Reinstatement will hinge on passing up to 10 drug tests per months.
Regardless of what happens, the Dolphins will now be left to regret moving from No. 12 to No. 3 in 2013. The only good news is that they gave up only a second-round pick to make the nine-spot climb.
Losing $5.61 million can be very sobering!
Or you just don’t see the opportunity in front of you or you don’t really give a shit about football. It’s one of the three.
We may already know he failed another test or that he’s passed a few because players in the suspension program get tested often.
Jordan has elite athleticism. I give him every chance to succeed. Yeah, he screwed up, but it’s not like he killed somebody. Guys who do a lot worse than he did come back and have careers in the league.
Yeah, but his clock is beyond just ticking. In Miami the alarm has gone off on his clock, and there’s no more snooze button! Shit & get off the POT! 😉
Recent reports was the weed was his main issue.