The Wedge Scouting Report: Joey Bosa, DE

Want to know what an Intergalactic Alien does in his downtime?

Exactly what you think he does.

I’m a bullfighter in my off time

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AHH THE RUSH!!!

You make eye contact with the beast

You dance with the Beast

You WIN

But there is one bull I will never fight…

the dreaded TAU CETI E BULL.

I’m not suicidal…this bull has taken off more tentacles than you can imagine.

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Speaking of dangerous beasts, the NFL draft is full of beasts that will dominate opposing offensive lines.

Take Ohio State Defensive End Joey Bosa.

Or better yet…run for your life from Joey Bosa.

This beast has a chance to be the #1 pick in the 2016 NFL draft.

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And with good reason, this monster racked up 26 sacks and 51 tackles for a loss in the last three season.

He literally ran over offensive tackles like a bull staring at a red cape.

Truth be told though, even if he never posts a double digit sack season in the NFL.  He will make his presence known in the NFL.

He will do it by stuffing the run …where he is elite!

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Bosa doesn’t go around you.  Bosa comes right at you, with a powerful bull rush.  Offensive Tackles end up getting push back into their quarterbacks from time to time.

And his hand technique is something else…maybe its hood technique in his case…

Bosa is a local.  He is from Earth like most of you.  So there is that…

But he has even closer roots to the Dolphins than that.

Like many other prospects this year, he has family ties to the NFL.

Joey Bosa’s dad, John Bosa played for the Dolphins in the 80s.  His uncle is infamous Dolphins bust Eric Kumerow

Joey Bosa attended St. Thomas High School in Ft. Lauderdale, the lauded football school that Michael Irvin, Geno Atkins, Giovanni Bernard, Phillip Dorsett, Lamarcus Joyner, Marcus Gilbert and Brian Picocolo all went to.

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You would think they built Bosa in a lab where they make monsters who blow up offensive lines.  He is probably the ideal 4-3 Defensive End at 6-5 275 pounds.

I’ve seen him compared to JJ watt and Jared Allen.  If Bosa has a career ike either of those two he is truly deserving of the #1 pick in the draft.

But rumor has it…he won’t be the #1 pick…and he actually might slide a little bit.

Maybe Bosa even comes back to South Florida to punish Tom Brady.

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No matter where he ends up

He is a true destructive weapon.

If Bosa was an Alien Weapon of Destruction, he would be the dreaded TAU CETI E BULL!

Better run!!!

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723 Responses to The Wedge Scouting Report: Joey Bosa, DE

  1. steveccnv says:

    I guess we’re going to find out this yr about Miller. I hope he plays great, along with OV, Shelby and Matthews. The better those guys play the more compensatory we’ll get 😛

  2. steveccnv says:

    dbolt48 says:

    March 12, 2016 at 1:11 pm

    This is the best breakdown on OV anyones done. Ian does a great job breaking down film!

    http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2622035-why-transition-tagged-de-olivier-vernon-will-be-giant-free-agent-bust?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=web-mob-art-mid-145?is_shared=true
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    That’s the biggest bunch of horseshit I’ve ever seen. Sometimes teams setup certain players to get sacks, that’s just how it is. You can’t say Suh did this or Shelby did that or the Oline Fdup or the QB made a mistake that’s why OV got the sack, well you can, but… If everyone did what they were supposed to do on O there would never be any sacks. If he got a sack he got a sack, no one laid down for him (Favre).

    I don’t think he’s worth the money, but he’s not going to be a bust. 10 sacks per yr is all he needs to a very good De, I think he’s turned the corned and will average that. He’ll never live up to $17M, but that doesn’t make him a bust.

    • dbolt48 says:

      LOL….I don’t see how it’s horseshit, he went sack by sack and broke it down why OV got the sack. Very few sacks of his own doing & yet he’s being paid as the top rushing DE in the league. Ian’s film breakdowns and analysis are some of the best you’ll find anywhere.

      • steveccnv says:

        It’s horseshit, because when you watch the tape there’s not much difference from the sacks they say he got on his own to the ones that were aided. By the standards given the QB can’t be moved by anyone else an inch. First of all that rarely happens and secondly one of the sacks he said was aided by Suh the QB moved farther away from OV, then was making a stink on the time it took him to get to the QB.

        These guys analyzing seem to put in what they want to back their opinion.

  3. wyoming85 says:

  4. Tim Knight says:

    Randy has been talking about how OV gets a lot of his sacks back to 2013 when he had 11.5. Most of them were on stunts and he was the free man. OV does not generate that hard off the corner rush to consistently beat LTs for a clean sack.

    • dbolt48 says:

      Exactly which was pretty much the point of the article.

      • Tim Knight says:

        OV won’t be a bust but he’s likely not going to be the pass rusher the Giants hope he will. They’ll get great effort from him though.

      • dbolt48 says:

        That’s what Ian’s getting at though….he will be a bust for what he signed for.

    • dbolt48 says:

      OV, although not the Diva, is essentially Mike Wallace of the DEs. Getting paid Top shelf money for the position when he’s not close to a top shelf player. We regretted Wallace’s, Ellerbe’s, and Wheeler’s contracts & it’s not hard to imagine the Giants doing the same.

      • Tim Knight says:

        True on the value of the player. Being that I do root for the Giants I hope OV does well.

      • getterdone says:

        Like most players, OV will be the sum of the talent around him. Few players, if any, can single handedly be a force on a bad team. We even saw a poor start and less than stellar year from Suh on a DL with injuries on top of a poor defensive system.

      • dbolt48 says:

        Agree with both of you. I hope the best for OV. Also scheme & surrounding talent is paramount for a successful team.

  5. Tim Knight says:

    I can’t wait for some new news to be reported so when I do a search for Miami Dolphins news I don’t have to keep seeing “Wife of Pro Bowl corner rips Miami, calls the Dolphins a ‘Dumpster fire’. She’s not relevant. Her opinion is just as important to us as Brent’s load in her gullet. LOL

  6. D says:

    Find it funny they keep saying that Nkemdiche threw Tunsil under the bus for being there, yet you can listen to that whole interview clip they posted on that page and never once do you hear Tunsil name any player specifically, just that there were other there. Fuckin media people and their click counters.

    • D says:

      Nevermind i went back and re-listened to it, and there was a very short mention that Laremy was there that night, no mention that he was involved with drinking or drugs. Like three words and they made the most out of them i guess.

      • D says:

        He was also asked that question, it wasnt like he was giving up people to cover his guilt. The question asked was “were there other players with you on that night”

  7. D says:

    I have only slight concerns with Nkemdiche’s incident, it was stupid and i do think it shows immaturity, so i think it would be very important for him to have good mentoring wherever he goes. I do think though he will straighten out as a pro and be receptive to mentoring, and likely grow from it.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Odell Beckham is immature as are many young players.

      • D says:

        Yeah and most settle down as they realize what it really means being a pro. Some takes them a while and most of them never venture too far off the road the way Maziel, Gordon, Blackmon, and Jordan have.

  8. D says:

    Miko Grimes ‏@iHeartMiko 4m4 minutes ago

    i love u todd! RT @tgreen145: Big congrats on putting the pen to paper for Brent Grimes. The Bucs (cont) http://tl.gd/nm2m4g
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    Didnt take her long to re-activate that account lol.

  9. D says:

    Fitzpatrick appaently seeking 18mil per contract right now. Getting offers of 7 mil per lol, little tiny gap between those vying for his services and his camp.

  10. getterdone says:

    Longtime NFL defensive end Chris Clemons is at Dolphins headquarters visiting with team officials today, according to a source.

    Clemons, 34, has 69 career sacks, including 37 for Seattle from 2010 to 2013. He started 11 games for Jacksonville in 2014 and had eight sacks and four forced fumbles.

    Last season, he played in 16 games for the Jaguars, starting eight, and had 14 tackles, three sacks and one forced fumble.

    The Dolphins apparently want to consider multiple options for a significant defensive end role, as part of a rotation with Mario Williams (who figures to play the vast majority of downs) and Cam Wake (the Dolphins don’t want to overwork him). Defensive end Jason Jones visited Saturday.

    Clemons has other suitors but will not book additional visits until after this visit is concluded and he sees whether a quick signing here is realistic for either party.

    2) Found this notable: WSVN-7’s Steve Shapiro, on his Sunday night show (Sports Xtra), said tonight that he spoke to Dolphins executive vice president/football operations Mike Tannenbaum on Sunday and said Tannenbaum told him that “after the deals they’ve made so far, the 2016 Dolphins would kick the crap out of the 2015 Dolphins. He used another word.”

    The Dolphins have added five projected starters (d-end Mario Williams, cornerback Byron Maxwell, linebacker Kiko Alonso, safety Isa Abdul-Quddus and Jermon Bushrod, a tackle who will get a chance at guard), as well as backup offensive tackle Sam Young. The Dolphins also are waiting a Broncos decision on whether they will match Miami’s offer for running back CJ Anderson; there are conflicting reports elsewhere tonight about the likelihood of that.

    Meanwhile, the Dolphins lost four starters (Brent Grimes, Olivier Vernon, Lamar Miller and Rishard Matthews), have chosen not to resign Kelvin Sheppard to this point and parted ways with slot corner Brice McCain, receiver Greg Jennings and offensive tackle Jason Fox

  11. D says:

    There are some decent OT guys still out there too

  12. Tim Knight says:

    GD, yeah we can rotate some vets and young guys at DE to keep them all fresh. Wake shouldn’t be a 40+ snap guy anymore. Even if his Achilles heals well he should be a 25 snap guy mostly on sure passing downs.

  13. D says:

    Cleveland Browns ‏@brownsbuzztap 5m5 minutes ago

    http://cbssports.com >> Manziel says ‘of course’ he’ll be in NFL in 2016 http://buzztap.com/-1kgnFz
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    As he hops in a SUV with his entourage and about 10 ho’s

  14. Tim Knight says:

    D, we only have 2 legit DEs on our roster right now in Williams and Wake. Fede needs to show more, Damontre Moore needs to mature, Clayton Laing is a CFL sleeper, and Julius Warmsley and Jordan Williams are long shots. Who knows about Dion FF.

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      we’ll see how many games each play.

    • getterdone says:

      Draft Dodd, Ogbah, or Lawson!

    • D says:

      I understand and thats a bad base to build off of when one of those guys still is in real question with an Achilles tear and with potential of re-injuring during the season. I read up on hamstring surgery stuff and the projections arent positive.

      • D says:

        Also dont see how you can say Wake is legit when he isnt even able to take the field and recovery time for Achilles is supposedly minimum 12 months to be safe to avoid a high chance of re-injury.

  15. D says:

    Last year we carried 4 DE’s, not to say that wont change due to the age of some of our players, but as a reference, if we carry same number of DE’s and Wake/Williams are only rotational, then the other 2 have to be starting quality to have the players we need just to be able to rotate. I feel strongly we wind up cutting Wake, just havent done it yet because we dont have a suitable replacement. We need to have depth past those that will be getting decent numbers of snaps.

    So lets say for right now we have Wake and Williams, and rotate Fede and Clemmons, i dunno if i feel comfortable just with those guys. Id much rather see Rookie RDE WilliamsLDE, counting on the rookie for most of the snaps on one side and someone like Fede occasionally rotating in and Williams and another vet splitting time at the other spot. I just dont like the idea of going into the season really depending on Wake’s health and a 36 year old behind him to replace him if he goes down.

    • Tim Knight says:

      We finished the season with 5/6 DEs on the roster – OV, Shelby, Fede, Moore, Coples and whatever you consider McCain.

      McCain is another guy, what is he and can he find a consistent role to be productive in?

  16. D says:

    So whose is your 4 DE’s?

  17. BoulderPhinfan says:

    tim,
    that means at that age there is a big chance they get injured and don’t play many games. Like wake last year.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Well Wake has been durable until he ruptured his Achilles and Williams has been pretty durable as well. But I get your point. We still need to add young talent at DE.

  18. getterdone says:

    Dolphins MUST MUST draft better than they have been & start retaining the good young ones, which they haven’t been!

    • Yes, we understand the Dolphins walking away from Olivier Vernon and Lamar Miller when the price kept going beyond what they imagined.

    But this is disconcerting: Between 2008 and 2013, only 15 of their 49 draft picks turned out to be above average players. And of those 15 good ones, eight left after their rookie contract and/or in their mid 20s (including Vernon and Miller) and a ninth was traded after three seasons (Vontae Davis).

    The other six? Brian Hartline left after six seasons, leaving Ryan Tannehill, Reshad Jones, Mike Pouncey, Jelani Jenkins and Koa Misi (generously) as the only remaining above average players from those six drafts. That’s deplorable.

    • If the price is right, the Dolphins have by no means ruled out signing a prominent past-his-prime but accomplished free-agent receiver to replace Rishard Matthews and Greg Jennings. Andre Johnson would love to finish his career here; Anquan Boldin, Marques Colston, Roddy White and Percy Harvin (still only 27) are also available.

    But they indicated they prefer to revisit this later in free agency.

    • Denver has until 2 p.m. Tuesday to inform the Dolphins whether they will match Miami’s offer for running back CJ Anderson. The agent for another free agent who has spoken to the Dolphins said Miami informed him that it’s waiting on clarity on Anderson to know what its cap situation is…. Please see the last post for more Dolphins news from this weekend.
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    This last part about CJ, tells me that they could have Alfred Morris, maybe even Arian Foster waiting in the wings.

  19. BoulderPhinfan says:

    Tim,
    wake has now missed games 2 years in a row, And we really miss him when he’s out of the game. Last year when he got injured during that pats game the team sunk afterwards.

    • Tim Knight says:

      He played in all 16 games in 2014. He has only missed 3 games since he’s been with us until last year.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Two of them were his first year here in 2009 and that might have been because he was inactive.

    • D says:

      Actually i think its been 3 out of past 4, and he had spans of times he played but obviously wasnt healthy because it was really affecting his play. Its a pretty risky gamble to go into the season relying on him as a primary DE for us.

  20. Tim Knight says:

    “We do have to build better thru the draft, period.”

    GD, agreed!

    • getterdone says:

      ….and lock up guys like Landry when it’s time….we did that with Tanny.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah if he continues on his pace he’ll have a lot of suitors in FA and he’s not going to be cheap. An extension before FA would be a good thing.

      • BoulderPhinfan says:

        you don’t let player like landry hit FA. He’ll be tagged if not signed prior.

  21. D says:

    Wake was out for a few games, i think Tanny’s first year for sure because he wasnt there or was out most of the game for the Saints that Monay night where out entire season got derailed and was out i think a couple games after too. He plays through injuries sometimes that may as well be out because he is hardly effective. He has injured his Achilles in seasons before, there is more injury history than you seem to be remembering Tim.

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      I really thought he had a knee injury a couple of years ago and missed a few games. But maybe he played through it but it showed on the field. Either way I think we need a young DEs to take the majority of snaps.

      • Tim Knight says:

        He did and missed one game but yes he wasn’t 100% for a couple of games. You could say that about 90% of the players in the league when they get nicked up.

      • D says:

        Im with ya on that. I think Mario is capable of playing most the snaps, might be better to rotate him to keep him healthier and at full strength by end of the season but i dont expect he will be out more than 30% of the snaps. Way they are talking abotu Wake its almost as if they are suggesting he will play less than half the snaps and at 9.4mil per, we’d be better off cutting him and just drafting a replacement. Id keep him if he came down to about 5mil per.

    • Tim Knight says:

      It’s minor and every player gets nicked up. His stats say he missed 3 games through 2014 and 2 were his NFL rookie year and I don’t think it was due to injury, he was still a backup. So now we’re going to say that’s not the case. I never viewed Wake as having durability issues and still don’t. I’m only concerned about his Achilles injury due to his age.

  22. D says:

    Cant lock up everyone you have to be selective. Like Vernon, no way could we have locked him up without putting ourselves in a bad position having to pay him 17mil a year. Miller is debatable, but again it depends on the position (Rb being one of the easier to replace) and the market. Landry i think would be smart to keep, Jones is a good player to keep, though with his age we need the leverage to have a player capable of taking over for him because we might bit be able to pay through the nose for a guy who may be out of his peak performance zone.

  23. Mike E. says:

    I can’t complain about anything we’ve done this off season. We’re basically doing exactly what I’d hoped we do, don’t overspend on FA’s, and work in the direction of building the team through the draft, and adding depth through FA.

    • D says:

      Yeah they are getting a working base to build through draft off of. I just hope we start getting better success from our picks so that process can really start to take hold.

  24. Tim Knight says:

    D, if Wake can still bring it off the edge in a limited role he’s still worth half of what OV is making playing half the snaps. Pass rush is valuable.

    • D says:

      Tim, OV is worth half of what OV is making.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I’m talking about the perceived FA market for pass rushers. After Williams, we have nobody even close to Wake’s pass rush ability and they’re not easy to replace. I’m not worried about Wake’s cap #, we have plenty of cap space.

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      Wake was very disruptive last year when he played. Even if only rushes the passer on obvious rushing downs he’s valuable. Not sure about 9.5 million though. But hey its not my money.

  25. BoulderPhinfan says:

    If wake stays healthy and can play like he did last year before his injury, I think we should keep him next year even at 9.5m. He’s someone the defense has to game plan for.

  26. getterdone says:

    The Dolphins’ offer sheet to restricted free agent C.J. Anderson contains a signing bonus of $5.25 million that must be paid by March 31.
    Including bonuses and salary, Anderson’s first-year pay will be $6 million, tying DeMarco Murray for the NFL’s third highest 2016 total payments among running backs, behind only Adrian Peterson ($11 million) and Doug Martin ($8 million). Klis reports the Bears offered Anderson a four-year, $19 million deal — more than Miami’s four-year, $18 offer — but Anderson preferred the familiarity of new Dolphins coach Adam Gase’s offense. The Dolphins intentionally frontloaded Anderson’s offer sheet in order to make it more difficult for the Broncos to match. Denver has until Tuesday at 4pm ET to make a decision.
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    OD, that’s some smart negotiating, and yes, FA’s do wanna come to Miami. I guess the Doofus Brigade can’t be all bad. 😉

    • D says:

      In particular most the ones that have been interviewed have credited the personality of Ross to be a reason for them to be excited to sign with the Phins.

  27. Mike E. says:

    Boulder

    That’s a big if with Wake. I’ll be really surprised if he’s anything close to what he used to be.

    • D says:

      I will too. I looked up Achilles surgery and they said 12 month unless you want to deal with a high chance or re-injury, infection, etc. So if they are smart and allow him to ease his way back to avoid complications, we are looking at half a season without him.

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      You maybe right. Achilles is a tough injury to come back from. But Wake is also a gym rat. I wouldn’t bet against him.

      • Tim Knight says:

        That and he’s very strict what he puts into his body. Not all players are the same.

        His age is the biggest concern and as well conditioned as Wake is, he can combat age either. None of us can.

  28. D says:

    Tim also you are comparing apples to oranges, OV is a 25 year old ascending player, Wake and Williams for example are not, so you want to compare pass-rushers, you compare Wake to Williams. Starting off, Williams is making less than wake, so even if Wake was to be playing at Williams number of snaps. then Wake should take a pay cut. They are also insinuating that Williams will be ont he field more than Wake because Wake will be a “situational” guy. I would expect then that Williams plays about 75% of snaps, and wake about 35%ish, so to me Wake’s pay should reflect about 50% of Williams, so saying 5mil isnt a random just pick a number out of the blue thing, im actually paying him according to output. 5mil would be a decent pay for a aging, declining pass-rusher who will play a very reduced number of snaps.

    • Tim Knight says:

      If Wake can still get off the edge like he always has he’s worth it. You don’t have to think he is, but I do. I also said nobody on our team other than Williams has Wake’s pass rush ability so I did compare them. Under $10M per is not a lot for a pass rusher. I used OV as an example because that was the market for pass rushers and he’s not even close to Wake as a pass rusher.

  29. dbolt48 says:

    LMAO…Andy is pretty funny😂

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  30. getterdone says:

    TFY Draft Insider’s Tony Pauline reports that it’s “almost universally accepted at this point” that Clemson edge rusher Kevin Dodd will be selected before teammate Shaq Lawson.
    “The question now is how early in Round 1 will Dodd be selected?” Pauline wrote. My did that tide turn quickly. At last week’s pro day, Dodd added to the hype machine. He stood on his Combine forty (4.86) but was a full participant otherwise. “Dodd looked terrific in both defensive line and linebacker drills, displaying a lot of athleticism and ease moving around the field,” Pauline wrote. Dodd posted a 30.5-inch vertical jump, a 9-foot-2 broad jump, a 4.44 second short shuttle, a 7.31 second 3-cone and also completed 22 reps on the bench press.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Dodd has the classic 4-3 DE frame but I still think Lawson is right there with him. I like them both.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I’m really surprised by that
      I think of Lawson as a top 15 pick
      and Dodd as a fringe 1st rounder

      I think I would rather have Lawson
      I like them both though

  31. Tim Knight says:

    I didn’t realize Marcell Dareus also signed a huge contract.
    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/marcell-dareus/

  32. getterdone says:

    The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette’s Ed Bouchette said it “sounds like” free agent S Eric Weddle is leaning towards signing with the Patriots.
    _______________________
    Don’t do it!

  33. BoulderPhinfan says:

    Of course he says that. He wants to sell tickets LOL.

    “Mike Tannenbaum on Sunday and said Tannenbaum told him that “after the deals they’ve made so far, the 2016 Dolphins would kick the crap out of the 2015 Dolphins. He used another word.””

  34. The Flying Pig says:

    Wake keeps himself in good shape
    I’m betting on Wake

  35. BoulderPhinfan says:

    LOL @ gdp. I agree if he’s in the building… he’s in the building.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Heeeeehhhh… hardy har har guys!!! LOL

    • getterdone says:

      LOL…but there is some truth to Wake being great with diet & conditioning. He should bounce back and play at a high level for 1-2 more yrs….IF he’s used properly on snap counts as other here have eluded to.

  36. getterdone says:

    MMQB:
    Eagles executive vice president of football operations Howie Roseman believes there is a “big dropoff after 10 players” in the 2016 NFL Draft.
    Roseman cites this as the reason for moving up from No. 13 to No. 8. This is just one executive from one team giving an opinion, but it could offer a keyhole for us to peek through for how the NFL views this year’s draft. Every team’s board is different, but many times the top prospects are repetitive, albeit in a different order, so this sentiment could be a consistent theme as we move forward in the draft process. Roseman said the team had “missed out” on their target in previous years due to picking later in the draft.

    • Tim Knight says:

      We might have thought there was a dropoff after 5. I don’t think there is a big dropoff after 10 based on how these guys have all moved around.

      • getterdone says:

        Depends on what you’re really looking for. I think the draft has some deep areas, & some very shallow areas.
        I think DE, DT, OLB, & are fairly deep areas. While CB, WR, QB & TE are not.
        OL has some decent choices, as do RB’s & S’s.
        Philly has a new HC & may think the #8 could net them a QB they want, or even LT since Peters is getting old & has an expensive cost.

  37. wyoming85 says:

  38. wyoming85 says:

  39. Randy says:

    gdp
    Uh, yeah, hence the reason I didn’t like giving up that #8 pick. If you figure there are 5 key positions in the draft(QB, DE, CB, DT and OT), you take yourself out of the running for the chance to draft one of the top two players at those positions. You could even say 4 positions if you don’t think CB is a key one….that leaves 8 players. Now, that’s not always the case, but the numbers aren’t on your side. I think both players we traded for better be productive starters for us for at least 2 years, or it was a bad trade. Sure, we may still get a good player, but we’re out of the lottery to pick one of the top players in this draft, for the most part.

    • getterdone says:

      Depends on what you’re really looking for. I think the draft has some deep areas, & some very shallow areas.
      I think DE, DT, OLB, & are fairly deep areas. While CB, WR, QB & TE are not.
      OL has some decent choices, as do RB’s & S’s.
      Philly has a new HC & may think the #8 could net them a QB they want, or even LT since Peters is getting old & has an expensive cost.

    • getterdone says:

      Dodd, Ogbah, Lawson….all three shouldn’t be gone by #13…now as for CB, you ‘may’ have an argument there, but I still think a top tier type can be had in 2nd.
      If we want a LT of the future, then Stanley or Conklin could be there, & for sure Spriggs.
      If we lose out on CJ back to Denver, then Zeke might still be there @ #13 as well.

      So I’m not gonna think for 1 sec that this was a poorly executed trade down until we see how the rest of FA shakes out & how the draft goes in the top 10.

  40. Randy says:

    gdp
    Not really. Yeah, every draft is different. There are definitely good players outside the top 10. I’m not trying to say there aren’t. Still, your chance of drafting an elite sort of player is better the higher you pick. It just is.

  41. getterdone says:

    Randy,
    Yes & No. You just said, every draft is different. We don’t know how Miami has their draft board set up. They seemed comfortable making the 5 spot drop & acquiring ‘needs’ at the sametime.
    We’ve blown Top 3 picks before, so do other teams. So I’m not gonna stress about the trade down. It’s not like we traded our 1st & next years 1st to get some player we thought was elite.
    We still have our full compliment of other draft picks in 2016.
    Besides, who wants to draft top 5 or even top 10 every year? I’ll take drafting at #24 or higher every year, like Miami used to under Shula & Marino. Hell, that’s how he got Danny Boy @ #26!. 😀

  42. Tim Knight says:

    DE and DT is very good and deep, LB is solid as is CB and S, and OT and G is also pretty good.

    Howie Roseman is one person with an opinion. I haven’t heard any draft pundits say there’s a big dropoff after 10 which is such a convenient # isn’t it? How about saying top 11 or 14 so you don’t sound so typical. LOL

    The only elite prospects I’ve heard in this draft are Tunsil, Ramsey, Jack and Smith was pre-injury. Bosa seems to have dropped out of that conversation and is considered more good all around than elite. Maybe Stanley has elite ability and none of the QBs are considered elite though two could go top 10 easily.

    We all went back and forth with about a dozen options at #8 now all of a sudden the pickings are slim. Not buying it. LOL

    • getterdone says:

      The key is not where you draft, but WHO you draft. You got to hit on 2-3 of players min each year that can be the type of starters that you want to extend at the end of their rookie deals.
      This is usually found in the early rounds, but sometimes in 4-6th, even 7th rd & UDFA’s as well.

      Ya gotta have a keen staff that knows how to pick em!

  43. Randy says:

    gdp
    I’m just not as convinced as you are that Maxwell and Kiko are gonna be solid starters for us for multiple years.
    ***
    Why would Philly trade away a young, talented, cheap and HEALTHY MLB if he is truly that? Them giving up Kiko makes no sense if he’s the sort of player people here keep claiming he is. Maybe Philly has some guy waiting in the wings…that I don’t know. But otherwise…them trading away a young stud at MLB makes no sense….and makes we skeptical.

    • D says:

      I think Philly cutting Alonzo had a lot to do with him being a Kelley guy and potentially not a fit for the new guy’s scheme. If you look Schwartz went and got a guy he was more comfortable with to man the middle for him. It certainly wasnt about money. I dont think it was about talent, even his film from Philly wasnt shit, i think it was about regime, and they wanted their guy, not Kelley’s.

    • Tim Knight says:

      He was part of the deal that we wanted. That’s how trades work. You don’t say here we’ll give you this and you give us your crap. LOL

  44. Randy says:

    I don’t care how deep they are. There are still only a couple of guys at most positions that are considered the cream of the crop most years. Those guys go in the top 10. You don’t get a chance to pick one of THOSE GUYS very often.

    • getterdone says:

      …and those guys go to teams that are perennial losers…lol 😉
      We got to break out of that current mold.

  45. D says:

    Tim i think you still miss the point, the market for OV is different than the market for Wake, cut him and you will find that out. You wouldnt go to a used car lot and pay new Lamborghini prices for a 87 pontiac firebird, even the Trans Am model. You may believe its a good price, but its not. Boulder said it earlier, its not my money but i wouldnt have that much money tied up in DE unless i had that kind of production tied up in it. I get you love the guy, i love the player but the player doesn’t make fiscal sense anymore. Williams is a much more viable option and he is getting 8 mil a year how can you say Wake is worth more, or that the market says Wake’s value is good, when you got a guy on our team whose contract says you are wrong.

  46. dbolt48 says:

    That’s it, I’m all aboard drafting Noah Spence😁

  47. Randy says:

    gdp
    Exactly, and you break out of being an average team by accumulating better talent…the best talent you can get. So, you don’t give up an opportunity to draft one of those sorts of players like we did.
    ***
    Anyway, enough bitching…it’s over and done. Time to draft some guy who can keep us mediocre. Lol

  48. Randy says:

    D,
    That is a possibility but why? From what we’re told, Kiko is a talented young MLB. How does any HC not want to keep that sort of player on their team? Sounds like a red herring to me.

    • getterdone says:

      Jim Schwartz is paranoid…lol
      He’s getting the band back together with every past player under him that he can get Howie to sign. He’ll he’d take Suh too, if a deal could be made. 😉

  49. Randy says:

    Lunch is over….later fellas.

  50. dbolt48 says:

    @JoelAErickson: LSU linebacker Deion Jones clocked at 4.39 at Pro Day, according to the board

  51. The Flying Pig says:

    Deion Jones ⚡️

  52. Tim Knight says:

    I was just reading some news and came across something about North Korea and reminded myself that they call themselves the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. Can that be anymore inaccurate? LOL

    • getterdone says:

      LOL, sure why not. The US still tries to refer to itself as a democracy, but that’s been eroding bit by bit over the years. Many say America stopped being a Republic back during the Act of 1871.
      Now the US is more an Oligarchy.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah but we’re nowhere near what NK is, come on man. I don’t care what some people call us, I still feel free for the most part.

      • getterdone says:

        LOL, good point. Kim will feed ya to the dogs over there, LITERALLY!

  53. The Flying Pig says:

    Lol

  54. getterdone says:

    WOW, on Deion Jones’s pro day friendly time. His combine time was 4.6 .
    He’s an other tweener type. His speed will attract many suitors who use their LB’s in coverage more. I’d take him here in Miami, especially if he can add some more muscle weight, get better at taking on blockers.

    • Tim Knight says:

      There were some reports that the way they scheduled some stuff, a lot of prospects were exhausted at the combine during drills.

      • dbolt48 says:

        Some had to go through the vertical and broad jumps before running the 40. I honestly do not believe 4 jumps will affect the 40 time. What I saw at the combine were guys who had a problem getting a proper stance before the start of the 40.

    • dbolt48 says:

      I’d take him round 2 or 3 before taking Lee in the first.

      • getterdone says:

        Very good fall back option, especially in the 3rd.
        Go some combination of DE, CB or OL in the top 2 rounds

  55. Tim Knight says:

    GD, Kim kills his own family members due to paranoia. I can’t believe dictators like him still exist.

  56. D says:

    I wouldnt draft Ogbah at 13, he isnt that consistently good to have the guarantees you want from a first rounder. Bullard is better than Ogbah. Talent wise Spence is better than Ogbah. Nkemdiche is better than Ogbah. Id rather have Leonard Flloyd as a DE than Ogbah. He has good stats and he looked dominant in some games but others he looked very average. Im really concerned that the talent he looked best against was inferior talent. He would show good and then disappear in the same game a lot of times and there were some game he looked about as average as ya get. He is going to have to be coached up some and i have suspicions about his motor as he definitely doesnt go full out every play. I really dont know what you guys see in him that make you so high on him.

  57. D says:

    GD/Tim there were a bunch of players who were worn down and a bunch that had a touch of the flu/were sick. Several players has bad combines these year and they said even some of the NFL staff people got sick.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yeah that and they were up really early and had really long periods of time before actually did anything.

  58. D says:

    Deion Jones worth can easily be seen in his game film, both in him flying around on defense and his ST play. I have no doubt that if we run a speed defense and want a striker who flys to the ball that we get a good pick in Jones. He is a footballer and he doesn’t leave anything on the field. Big fan.

  59. D says:

    Vikings Buzz ‏@vikingsbuzztap 2m2 minutes ago

    http://thevikingage.com >> Josh Robinson signs with Tampa Bay Buccaneers http://buzztap.com/-1TKlOg

  60. Mike E. says:

    Don’t forget to watch Path to the Draft on NFL Network tonight! “Inside the Miami Dolphins War Room”

  61. Mike E. says:

    Miko’s mouth is a dumpster.

  62. D says:

    Jalen Mills looked really good in his drills at pro day, just got through watching some of the clips, he moves and changes direction really fluidly.

  63. D says:

    I really think its funny though that anyone thinks that by the time things are done in TB that she will be acting any differently towards them. She was at odds with the Flacons and praised us when we picked him up, then she falls out here and now praises TB. TB when they cut out are going to be in the same boat im sure, thats the pattern with her.

  64. dbolt48 says:

    Mike E. says:
    March 14, 2016 at 3:26 pm
    Miko’s mouth is a dumpster

    Correction Mike, her mouth is a dumper….always full of shit!

  65. getterdone says:

    Bolt, you don’t get high on some good ogbah?

  66. getterdone says:

    Bucs signed CB Josh Robinson, formerly of the Vikings, to a one-year contract.
    The No. 66 overall pick of the 2012 draft, Robinson had a strong rookie year, but has steadily faded. He tore his pectoral last summer, and ended up playing just six regular season snaps. Still only 25, Robinson is a depth signing with a bit of upside. He has 4.33 speed.
    ___________________________
    Screw him! Let’s get the other Robinson…Patrick, former 1st pick from FSU!

  67. getterdone says:

    420…..time to go smoke some ogbah!

  68. Tim Knight says:

    I saw a piece on Real Sports that basically said a lot of NFL players smoke weed and prefer it for pain over prescription drugs. I think the NFL is still against it for PR reasons but once most states legalize it I think they’ll get on board.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Seeing players like Martavious Bryant get suspended a year for smoking marijuana

      while players like Ray Rice get 2 games for domestic violence is unconscionable

      the NFL has questionable values

      • Tim Knight says:

        Agreed and NFL teams actually took care of Ray Rice’s suspension by not signing him.

        The same might be happening to Greg Hardy right now.

      • getterdone says:

        Tim, and it should happen to D’Qwell Jackoff Jackson!

      • Brian in NY says:

        There was no clear policy in place when Rice KOd his girl. The NFL f Ed up and they knew it.

  69. Brian in NY says:

    3/5 family members have caught this virus that’s going around. I’ve been laid up since Friday night, went to the Drs today and they ruled out the flu and pneumonia. I’m not a big complainer, but I’m freaking dying here. Chills and sweats are gone, but fever and horrendous cough persist . Fingers crossed my daughter and wife escape this! If my wife goes down with the house is doomed!

  70. Tim Knight says:

    Brian, cough syrup with codeine always worked for me. It always had a purple label and flavor.

  71. Brian in NY says:

    Thanks Tim. It’s prescription, so it had better knock my ass out.

  72. steveccnv says:

    These guys are in pain yr long and the league won’t let them smoke a little week, what a bunch of BS. It reminds me of the republican good ole boys club.

  73. Randy says:

    I wonder if we’ll try to trade back again. Accumulate picks to restructure the team as these guys want it. That’s what this sort of draft calls for, if it is actually a deep draft. It seems like we hear that almost every year though. It’s all about hype these days.

    • steveccnv says:

      I’m all for trading back further. These guys drafted early have a better chance to be a bust than a great player, and even the rookie contracts aren’t cheap in the 4th yr. Look at what Dion Jordan is making this yr.

  74. steveccnv says:

    What does anyone think about bringing in C. Clemons? He’s on the wrong side of 30, but he’s still got plenty in the tank to be a 3rd DE. If the money is right he’d be a good addition. People in the media get all worked up about the players age, I can see them worrying about it, if the player gets a large guarantee, making the contract run several yrs, but someone like Williams with 2 yrs, give me a break.

    They talk about some teams (jets) not having enough middle guys on their roster, how can you when those are the guys making all the money?

  75. Randy says:

    These young guys know what they’re getting into as a professional football player, nowadays. There are a lot of jobs that are really hard on your body….very few of which that probably pay you hundreds of thousands of dollars at the least to do it. These guys are blessed to even be in this spot. Many people aren’t. They’re making a well-informed choice to put their health at risk to earn a lot of money and play a game most of them love for work. Smoke all the weed you want and love living the dream! Lol

    • steveccnv says:

      Sign him to a low range 2 yr contract, and the risk is minimal.

      • steveccnv says:

        This one got posted under the wrong post, should’ve been the one below.

        It’s not about smoking all the week you, just like drinking you have to be responsible, see Manziel.

  76. Randy says:

    steve
    I wouldn’t mind giving Clemons a look. We don’t really have a guy who’s played RDE a lot. Clemons may get you 5 or 6 sacks if he’s used right. He’s a solid journeyman. Ya never know when those guys just drop off for good though.

  77. getterdone says:

    Randy says:
    March 14, 2016 at 6:33 pm
    I wonder if we’ll try to trade back again. Accumulate picks to restructure the team as these guys want it. That’s what this sort of draft calls for, if it is actually a deep draft. It seems like we hear that almost every year though. It’s all about hype these days.
    Reply

    WTF! Is this Jekyll or Hyde?
    Earlier today, around your lunchtime, you were debating me on how you didn’t like the trade down with Philly, and how we’re blowing a chance to land a top pick @ #8??? LOL 🙄

  78. Rockphin says:

    I just watched the segment on the Dolphins on path to the draft and now I don’t even want to watch the draft see you guys next year

  79. herdfan says:

    Just so I’m clear on this, does Dion FF still get paid all this time he’s been suspended?

    • Rockphin says:

      No we did not have to pay him

      If he is reinstated this year then we will have to pay him or take a cap hit for cutting him in his final year of his contract

      Biggest draft bust ever for the Miami Dolphins

  80. Rockphin says:

    Earlier today, around your lunchtime, you were debating me on how you didn’t like the trade down with Philly, and how we’re blowing a chance to land a top pick @ #8??? LOL 🙄

    I know right? LOL

    I was going to let it pass.

    Earlier I was busy when I read his post but I was going to reply that they were actually more players picked at number 13 who made it to the Pro Bowl then were picked at number 8

  81. Randy says:

    gdp
    Yeah, I did. I didn’t say we should trade down. We’re already out of the top 10 now. In thinking about what they may be thinking and the moves they’ve made, it made me wonder if they may be considering it in a supposedly deep draft. How is that confusing? Lol

  82. Randy says:

    You guys need to stop smoking weed if you don’t understand my posts. Lol

  83. Tim Knight says:

    I was thinking about the draft today based on what some radio callers talk about with their teams and it made me think, before we traded back many fans wanted Myles Jack over and over as if he’s the main thing we need to be relevant again. Then I thought to myself, no matter how good he ends up being or maybe not as great as everyone thinks he’ll be, one LB is not going to change things that much mainly due to it not being a primary position. It’s not as if he’s going to make every tackle and shut everyone down in coverage. We really need a better overall LB unit and better depth, not one projected super star.

    I’m sure there are going to be other LBs in this draft that are good who can help us and we should probably hone in on DE and CB on defense and a top quality guard to add to the competition and really push the guys we have. I think that will change our fortunes more so than the top LB prospect.

    Joseph said he feels the key to playing great defense is pass rush and outside coverage. There’s your DE and CB targets.

    • getterdone says:

      I was gonna add what VJ said, but saw it at the very end of your ramble, err post. Good job.

    • steveccnv says:

      That’s pretty much what I’ve been saying, we don’t need a super star we need more overall depth. We can’t have the LB, S, and G play we had last yr. You’re only as good as your worst player (on the) was never more proven than our team last yr.

  84. Randy says:

    Rock,
    So, if I offer you your choice between the #8 pick and the #13 pick, you take the #13 then? Seriously. Let me guess, you read an article? Lol

  85. getterdone says:

    NFL suspended free agent S Taylor Mays four games.
    He’s violated the substance-abuse policy. Mays was already in danger of falling out of the league. This might just about do it for the 2010 second-rounder.

    • steveccnv says:

      That’s a lucky break for his team, he sucks. Watched tape of him coming out of SC, and he can’t cover worth a darn.

  86. Randy says:

    I do think we need to find a way to pressure QBs more. Scheme? Personnel? I’d draft the best edge rusher I could at 13 and then go from there…unless a guy I had rated really high slipped for whatever reason. And…who knows…maybe they do still have faith in Dion Jordan.

    • steveccnv says:

      Joseph says he’s got some ways to get Suh out of double teams, which is going to lead to more pressure.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I think that wide 9 defense is one of those ways. Spread the DL out and have your LBs and a S crowd the box. Double Suh and you get a free lane to the backfield from one of them.

    • getterdone says:

      Nobody could possibly have faith in Dion FF. They might believe in his abilities, but he’s got to show he can turn in a full season or two, without off field problems before he restores anyone’s faith.

  87. getterdone says:

    If BJ Raji is going to be taking a year off to let his body heal, then he better lay off the Lil Debbie snack cakes too!!! I’m just sayin.

  88. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, it would be nice if we hit on a prospect or two that becomes a stud, but to rely on it when you make the selection could leave you disappointed. So yeah getting deeper and lessening weaknesses probably goes further than just a top prospect everyone gets all gaga over.

    Our season came apart last year not because we didn’t have some very good players, it was that we had too many green and sub par players in the lineup. That’s what we’ve been doing so far this offseason, adding more competent players with proven production so we can now let the young guys compete to overtake some of them through performance.

  89. Randy says:

    steve
    There are always tweaks you can make but that doesn’t mean they’ll work! Lol
    ***
    I think we need to bring in some youth at DE anyway. I’m not stuck on DE in the first, but it would definitely be in the mix.

    • steveccnv says:

      Agree. No one knows if it will work, but to have ideas and a plan is a great start, unlike whatever it was we had the last couple of yrs.

  90. steveccnv says:

    What’s worse, signing Maxwell (Eagles) at about age 25 to that huge contract, without really knowing who he is, or us this yr trading for Maxwell, and signing Williams, and maybe Clemons?

    These guys are old, but the chance they perform at least to their contracts is pretty good, with Maxwell being the most risk, because his contract is larger.

    The way I see it is our FO is making moves that give us outs. Maxwell, Williams, and Alonzo are on 2 yr contracts, with Maxwell’s possible going a bit further, if he’s worth the money. What I’m used to seeing by our FO is large contracts to FAs that don’t perform and we’re stuck.

    What I’m getting at here is I like what we’ve been doing, instead of recklessly throwing money at these 25 yr old guys going into 2nd contracts, we’re being cautious by giving us outs. The Cameron contract last yr kind of followed this practice, because of the 2 yr length.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Maxwell has a body of work to go by. We wouldn’t have made the deal if we didn’t like his skill set. He’s going to be one of the starters for sure.

      That was a false report that we extended Alonso. He’s still with one year left on his rookie deal. He’s in a prove it year.

  91. Tim Knight says:

    Dion FF has lost his bonuses due to being suspended. If he does it again we don’t have to pay him the bonus again. If he stays clean for a short time and gets suspended again he has to give it back like he already had to. So the risk reward at this point isn’t that bad unless the team just wants to move on. His 3rd rd pick status has already busted his first 3 seasons.

  92. Randy says:

    steve
    That’s partly why I started wondering if they may be looking to trade back, get more picks the next couple years and build the team their way over the next few years. I’m not saying they should or are….just wondering if the way they’ve done things lends itself to that sort of strategy.

  93. steveccnv says:

    Dion’s contract:
    Contract Notes: •$15.5M initial guaranteed (Signing Bonus + 2013-16 base)
    •2014 Roster Bonus: $845,104
    •2015 Roster Bonus: $1.69M
    •2016 Roster Bonus: $2.53M
    •Suspended for the entire 2015 season (contract tolls to 2016/17)
    •Base salary guarantees void per drug suspension

    contract tolls to 2016/17 – What does this mean? Typical sports writer using a word out of context.
    I would think it means the 2015 yr is removed and the contract is pushed out a yr, making 2016 have 2015s numbers and 2017 have 2016s numbers, but that’s not what any site shows.

  94. steveccnv says:

    The Miami Herald reports the Dolphins are “open” to giving suspended DE Dion Jordan another chance if he’s reinstated when first eligible in April.

    That’s provided he’s “clean and has a good attitude” after being suspended for all of 2015. Jordan was shaping up as a mega bust even before his mega ban, but with Olivier Vernon headed to the open market and Cameron Wake recovering from a torn Achilles’, the Dolphins are in no position to turn away potential pass rush help. Jan 28 – 10:23 PM

  95. steveccnv says:

    Posted by Mike Florio on April 29, 2015, 6:51 AM EDT

    Jordan
    Getty Images

    The one-year suspension of Dolphins defensive end Dion Jordan will cost him a year of football. It also will cost him plenty of money.

    For starters, he’ll lose his $585,000 base salary. He’ll also not receive a roster bonus of $1.69 million due to be paid at the start of training camp.

    Most significantly, $3.335 million of previously-paid signing bonus will be forfeited, meaning Jordan will have to give back that portion of his $13.34 million signing bonus.

    That’s a total of $5.61 million lost by Jordan due to his suspension.

    Once the Dolphins collect the $3.35 million, they’ll get a salary-cap credit. And they’ll continue to hold Jordan’s rights, if/when he’s reinstated. Reinstatement will hinge on passing up to 10 drug tests per months.

    Regardless of what happens, the Dolphins will now be left to regret moving from No. 12 to No. 3 in 2013. The only good news is that they gave up only a second-round pick to make the nine-spot climb.

  96. getterdone says:

    Losing $5.61 million can be very sobering!

    • Tim Knight says:

      Or you just don’t see the opportunity in front of you or you don’t really give a shit about football. It’s one of the three.

      We may already know he failed another test or that he’s passed a few because players in the suspension program get tested often.

  97. Randy says:

    Jordan has elite athleticism. I give him every chance to succeed. Yeah, he screwed up, but it’s not like he killed somebody. Guys who do a lot worse than he did come back and have careers in the league.

  98. Mike E. says:

    So I watched the beginning part of the Dolphins segment on Path to the Draft, and I like it! They have us taking Reggie Ragland and putting him at MLB, and moving Kiko Alonso to WLB. That’s exactly what I said we’d do when I heard we got Alonso

  99. Randy says:

    MikeE,
    Who do you bring in on 3rd down to replace Ragland?

    • Tim Knight says:

      Ragland also rushed the passer at Alabama not that’s this bog sack guy. But he’s not this sloth out there and he hits like a truck.

      He outperformed the ILB class in athletic drills at the combines as well. He ran a 4.72 40 and looked agile in other drills. I don’t get all the concerns with this him. I have no problem if we took him at #13 if we’re high on him. LBs still have to be physical and make tackles. It’s not all about LBs who can cover every receiver in the league when there isn’t one. LOL

  100. Randy says:

    gdp
    It’s more like: Figure out how to use and not get caught like 90% of the players in the NFL! Lol

    • getterdone says:

      NFL careers are a short window to make millions. Stop smoking weed until you retire!
      Then smoke like Cheech & Chong til you’re 90!

  101. BoulderPhinfan says:

    I wouldn’t mind getting jordan back. he’s one of only few guys I’ve seen cover gronk well. He can run with gronk.

    • getterdone says:

      Hewitt did well @ that monumental task too. I wanna see more of Hewitt developing.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Of course, everyone should. He flashed as a UDFA from a small school. Everyone likes to target UDFAs every year too then when you find them you forget about them next draft. LOL

  102. Randy says:

    gdp
    I’m not praising the kid. He screwed up, but he’s still got lots of years left if he turns it around. Who knows if he can? It’s always a risk

    • getterdone says:

      I hope he comes in to camp a new man with a chip on his shoulder & rips the skirt off of Marsha twice a year!

  103. Randy says:

    Tim,
    Coverage issues…not rushing the passer. Teams will expose him on 3rd downs in the passing game.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Like 90% of the rest of the LBs, CBs and S’s. LOL

      What if he blitzes on some 3rd downs, comes out at times and we use a 4-5 man rotation at LB which I prefer. You have your big lineup and your sub packages. The game is becoming specialized.

      I have no problem with adding Ragland. I’ve always had a gut feeling about him. I could see him being a core LB for some team for a decade. I really believe that. It’s not bias or anything, why would it be, I’m not an Alabama fan and he’s not a Dolphin yet. LOL

  104. finfanrob says:

    Randy says:
    March 14, 2016 at 8:20 pm

    Jordan has elite athleticism. I give him every chance to succeed. Yeah, he screwed up, but it’s not like he killed somebody. Guys who do a lot worse than he did come back and have careers in the league.

    you live in a bucket. what the hell do you know. but tell you what, if you are right and he does come back and play for the fins. i am buying you this for you bucket. trust me. loads of fun to be had on a sofa

  105. The Flying Pig says:

    If we take Scooby Wright
    Alonzo can play inside or outside 😜

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yeah he’ll cover like nobody’s business but a superior athlete like Ragland will struggle. I seriously don’t get it?

      Ragland was charted as missing 3 tackles all season. A 6-1 250 inside thumper with more versatile skills and athletic ability than he’s given credit for at #13 is taboo? On a team in need of not just overall coverage but LB run defense and tackling ability. Oy!

  106. wyoming85 says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 13: Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 11: Jeremy Cash, SS/FS, Duke (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 10: Deion Jones, OLB, LSU (B)
    Round 4 Pick 9: Sebastian Tretola, OG, Arkansas (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 8: C.J. Prosise, RB, Notre Dame (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 11: Ronald Blair, DE, Appalachian State (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 6: Tanner McEvoy, TE/WR, Wisconsin (B-)
    Round 7 Pick 10: Cody Kessler, QB, Southern California (C+)

  107. Randy says:

    ffr,
    Sorry, but I can’t see a thing.

  108. getterdone says:

    Nick Kwiatkoski the Mountaineer is a prospect that could do well being plugged in behind Alonso in the middle, learning the NFL ropes. He can also play outside. He’s nice & rangy @ 6’2 243, he was a former RB in HS, then safety early in college. Played LB both strongside & finally moved inside where he became a STAR @ WV.

    Oh, Randy….he was real good in coverage too in 2015 with 7 PD’s, 3 INT’s, 1 FF, 1 FR, to go along with 86 tkls, 10 for a loss & 3 sacks.

    Herd, have you seen much of his play first handily, even tho you’re a Marshall gal?

  109. dbolt48 says:

    Take it with a grain of salt:

    @southstands303: The Broncos will NOT match for CJ Anderson. He will become a Dolphin at 2pm tomorrow per MY source.

  110. The Flying Pig says:

    RB EZEKIEL ELLIOTT
    OHIO STATE
    42: R2P11
    OT JACK CONKLIN
    MICHIGAN STATE
    73: R3P10
    CB ELI APPLE
    OHIO STATE
    108: R4P9
    S JAYRON KEARSE
    CLEMSON
    148: R5P8
    DE CHARLES TAPPER
    OKLAHOMA
    187: R6P11
    OLB SCOOBY WRIGHT
    ARIZONA
    228: R7P6
    ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ
    STANFORD
    232: R7P10
    OLB ERIC STRIKER
    OK

  111. finfanrob says:

    Randy says:
    March 14, 2016 at 9:22 pm

    ffr,
    Sorry, but I can’t see a thing.

    i bet you hear that often.

  112. steveccnv says:

    Looks like CJ2K+16 will come aboard tomorrow.

    • getterdone says:

      Yeah, Miami front loaded the contract where the 2016 year will be $6M. That would put a real pinch on Denver who’s seeking a QB & has Von to pay, etc.

  113. getterdone says:

    Watch the video on ILB Nick Kwiatkoski. He’s originally from PA. We all know about them PA LB’s. 😉
    http://www.patriots.com/video/2016/02/14/2016-draft-prospects-nick-kwiatkoski-lb-west-virginia

  114. steveccnv says:

    C.J. Anderson (Dolphins, offer sheet): C

    This whole process would be an F for the Broncos, given that they needlessly created a situation in which they have to consider matching a far bigger offer for their starting running back. Denver could have tendered Anderson at the mid-tier level of $2.6 million, which would have forced teams to give up a second-round pick if they signed Anderson to an offer sheet and the Broncos chose not to match.
    —————————————
    If Denver matches they’re retarded.

  115. getterdone says:

    Panthers signed DT Paul Soliai, formerly of the Falcons, to a two-year, $7 million contract.
    Soliai never lived up to his “five-year, $32 million” deal in Atlanta and was released after two seasons. He’s now joining the division-rival Panthers and projects to play an early-down role in run-stopping situations. Soliai turned 32 in December.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I had no interest in Soliai. Been there done that.

      We have Suh, Mitchell and I think a gem in Phillips. If he ever gets the game down mentally where he sees it quickly look out because he’s another guy that can’t be blocked one on one if that’s the case. Mitchell is a non-stop motor type who isn’t a stat guy but doesn’t get bullied. He can play. Oh no he makes $3.5M in 2016. LOL

  116. Tim Knight says:

    If end up with Anderson why are we going Elliot 1st rd?

    In the big scheme of things, I don’t think our offense will be focused around one RB or any one particular player. I think we will get it to the guy we think gets us the 1st down or can make a big play.

    So we can stop downgrading C. J. Anderson and acting like he’s a nobody.

    2014 Anderson under Gase:
    Rush: 179-840 4.7 8 TD
    Rec: 34-324 9.5 2 TD

    2015 Miller:
    Rush: 194-872 4.5 8 TD
    Rec: 47-397 8.4 2 TD

    Also remember Anderson wouldn’t be out there if he couldn’t pass pro for Manning. I think Miller is the better back too but he left us, and he can’t really prove he’s more productive just yet. He has to do it.

    Anderson is a solid fallback option who knows Gase’s system and can plug and play and be productive. Ajayi is our wildcard or maybe a rook. Say not to adding 30+ year old RBs.

    • steveccnv says:

      Anderson is a very good pass protector, Miller is no where near his class.

    • getterdone says:

      CJ has also played a year or two less of full seasons than Miller, and both are 25yo.
      So we get a really good proven young RB that’s still ascending like Miller.

      No complaints here. He’s my Miller 2.0 so to speak. The money savings allows us to buy an OT like we did, and possible a OG soon, that can open lanes for CJ to motor thru!

      Go Phins!

  117. Rockphin says:

    Randy says: The
    March 14, 2016 at 7:27 pm

    Rock,
    So, if I offer you your choice between the #8 pick and the #13 pick, you take the #13 then? Seriously. Let me guess, you read an article? Lol
    Reply

    The point was not that #13 is better than #8 because of the statistical anomaly, it is that their are good players eveywhere in the draft and although you might think there are better odds in the top 10, the truth is it’s not the pick,, it’s the player picked and statistics say great players are picked at all spots in every round.

    That being said, I still don’t feel confident in Grier who has been in our scouting system for decades and been part of the bad drafts we’ve had and / or Tannenbum who I think is horrible.

    • getterdone says:

      You had me until the discredit of Grier & Tbomb. Guess we’ll see.

    • steveccnv says:

      I think it’s pretty safe to say it was rhetorical 😉

      Grier is a pawn, TB is calling the shots. Grier and his group will do all the work and TB will make the decision.

      • Tim Knight says:

        At the top yes, not lower level FAs and day two on.

      • steveccnv says:

        Tim, here’s Randy’s comment:
        Randy says:

        March 14, 2016 at 7:27 pm

        Rock,
        So, if I offer you your choice between the #8 pick and the #13 pick, you take the #13 then? Seriously. Let me guess, you read an article? Lol

  118. getterdone says:

    Steve, LOL, thanks for the highlight disclaimer….silly me….smh 😉

    I’ve read up a lot on Kwiatkoski & he’s laid down plenty of good game tape & I like his size, although he needs a lil more bulking in the weight room.

    • steveccnv says:

      He looked great in the highlight reel, but he may not get drafted, based on the 3 LBs we got last yr as UDFAs.

      • getterdone says:

        He could be a real good add later if we don’t go ILB early because of Alonso & adding a DE, CB, & OL earlier. He could be a good fit inside. Same with the other Vigil brother, & BJ Goodson whom I really grown to like as well on the inside.

  119. Tim Knight says:

    Rock, Grier brought hundreds of prospects to the table but never had final say. That’s not a good way of looking at it. Guy’s who get promoted did something impressive. He will be evaluated on his job as GM now.

    Everyone is so jaded we can’t even give new people a fuckin chance. That’s sad but I don’t follow sports that way.

    Go Phins!!!

    • steveccnv says:

      I think Grier’s interview went a little like this:
      TB: Chris we want to make you our GM, but you’ll do exactly what you’ve been doing. You’ll just have a larger salary and get credit for the moves, but I’ll be making the final decisions.

      Chris: Where do I sign?

    • Rockphin says:

      But he’s not new people, he has been with this organization for 16 years. And I used to laugh at my ex-father-in-law-the-stinkin-jets-fan about how horrible Tbum is. I hope they prove me wrong. Yes, I am jaded and for good reason. One left the jet’s with an old team in terrible cap hell and the other has been part of the process (a substantial part if you follow the narrative now that he’s GM) that has failed to draft well here for as long as I can remember.

  120. Rockphin says:

    The fact that Grier has been with the team for 16 years through how many GM’s? get’s me questioning my understanding of how the nfl works when it comes to personnel departments. I always thought GM’s picked their scouts and directors of player personnel, etc when they came to a new team, but I guess it’s not like HC’s with coordinators and position coaches. It seams the scouting departments aren’t directly tied to the GM’s. (Grier survived, what, five here?)

  121. Rockphin says:

    Nogtih all I’m turning in.

  122. The Flying Pig says:

  123. getterdone says:

    Rock, did your ex-pappy inlaw laugh back at you while the Jests were going to the AFC championship game twice while us Phins fans were laying on the sofa partly comatose & watch movie marathons???

  124. steveccnv says:

    I don’t know if it means anything, but this site has CJ already on our salary cap.

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/cap/

  125. steveccnv says:

    We’ve only got 28 players under contract for 2017 with a cap hit of $123M, not sure what to make of that. Stills, Cameron, and Bushrod? are the O starters not under contract. Wake, Jenkins, and Alonso are the D starters not under contract. So maybe not as bad as it looks + another 10 or so rookies including UDFAs. The rookies + UDFAs will bring the cap hit up to about $133M, so $30M – $40M to sign these guys + others.

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