The Wedge Scouting Report: Jordan Howard, RB

Why do I keep getting these damn Phyletic Extremity Dysfunction Emails.

I swear I don’t have a problem with my Phyletic Extremity…it works fine…

I have never ordered those damn pills…

Maybe one of my ex-girlfriends gave this company my email..

…hey…wait a second…what does that say about my…um…

never mind…I’m here to talk football!

And today I have a running back for you.

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A running back who powers through defenders like a machine that won’t go down!

Jordan Howard is in this alien’s assessment, the most physical back in the 2016 draft.

Yeah, sure Derrick Henry is bigger, but he doesn’t run at guys like Howard does.

at 216 pounds and under 6’0, he is not exactly the next Marshawn Lynch.

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You keep thinking about that as he runs you over!

Or you can be a smart human and get out of his way!

In 2015 Howard rushed for over 1200 yards while at Indiana against some pretty stiff Big 10 competition.  That was Howard’s only year at Indiana.

Howard was at UAB before Indiana.  You know UAB right?  The school that dropped football.  You feel bad for those kids right?

Well don’t feel too bad for Howard.  Transferring to Indiana probably got him to be a Day 2 pick in 2016.

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In his college career at both UAB and Indiana, Howard rushed for 3,681 yards.

He didn’t catch a lot of passes. He had 24 total receptions for 261 yards.

but both running and receiving he tallied 27 touchdowns!

The guy can produce and can be a workhorse.  Of course when he gets to the NFL he will probably share carries with another NFL back, like most teams use backs these days.

I bet he makes the most of those opportunities!

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What really stands out about Howard is his running style.

He just never goes down!

School cancels his football program – He stays up

Defensive End gets in the background – He stays up

Linebacker hits him high – He stays up

DB hits him low – He stays up

Not a day 1 draft pick – He stays up

Kinda reminds me of something…

If Jordan Howard was an Alien Weapon of Destruction…well he might just be that little blue pill that never let’s you go limp.

HowardBluePill

You can watch his highlights here:

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846 Responses to The Wedge Scouting Report: Jordan Howard, RB

  1. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Tim Knight says:

    March 15, 2016 at 5:01 pm (Edit)

    A lot of people have this philosophy.

    Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero 1h1 hour ago
    GM Mando RB philosophy: Draft ’em, use ’em, if they’re not Adrian Peterson, let them graduate. Repeat.

    ********************
    its a good philosophy
    and I generally agree

    but the problem is you are continuously opening up holes by letting players go

    and if they are not AP, then you generally need 2 good RBs

    So, do you draft a RB in the first four rounds every other year?

    Even at RB, a position with diminished value, keep your guys, even if they are not elite has value in that it doesn’t open up other holes.

    That said – the RB position has a short shelf life and rookies can contribute right away
    We just happened to waste Lamar Miller’s time for us under Philbin
    no matter what happened in the offseason we can’t have that wasted time back

    if we draft a RB early – I hope they get on the field out of the gate

  2. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero 3m3 minutes ago
    The Miami Dolphins announced QB Matt Moore has visited the team. Visit over.

    He then came back because he forgot his other flip flops. LOL

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      when a player under contract last year is described as “visiting” – that’s a bad sign to start

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      In a related story, Dolphins GM took the morning off to spend time with his “current” family…lol

  3. D's avatar D says:

    steveccnv says:
    March 15, 2016 at 4:00 pm
    The point was you can’t tell what any player is doing on the non-highlight plays, so there’s no point in watching highlights. You said Coples takes plays off, that’s what I want to see when watching game tape, highlights don’t show that.
    —————————————
    I dont really use highlight film as a single source of evaling a prospect. I first try to find a quality opponent with a LT, for example if im evaling a DE, that i know is a quality LT and hopefully is a common opponent vs another guy i might be comparing them against. Its only way i can see to get a fair representation. Coples you saw it in a lot of games, i havent found one of Clemsons where Dodd or Lawson looked to be slacking. They had games where they were more or less effective, but not like they were laying off plays.

    Ogbah, for example, i have found some games where he did that for a portion of the game, some time he just had a bad game or they game planned for him well but he still put forth a lot of effort, other time he just gave up. Again, i dont think he’s necessarily as consistent with it as Coples, i just dont like guys who seem to be able to turn it off.

  4. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim

    We don’t really have a starter opposite Maxwell, and Maxwell is best at RCB. We also don’t really have a starter at RE. I mean, we have bodies, but not really a starter.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I agree, that’s why I said draft. But it’s one player at each phase.

      To me this draft is about a adding a player in every phase of the defense except I’m not as worried about Safety because I think we can manage there. Then solidify the OL and we can go play. RB should not be the end all so how far off are we? We have 8 draft picks and can still add a few guys in FA to compete.

      We need a better approach to how we play first and foremost. It was apparent the previous coaching staff lost the team. It sucks but it happened. Not counting Campbell, he did a good job doing what he had to do. Really tough spot.

  5. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    There’s a cute girl in my office that walks by every once in a while

    think I should offer her chorizo?

  6. D's avatar D says:

    Tim Knight says:

    March 15, 2016 at 5:01 pm (Edit)

    A lot of people have this philosophy.

    Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero 1h1 hour ago
    GM Mando RB philosophy: Draft ’em, use ’em, if they’re not Adrian Peterson, let them graduate. Repeat.
    ————————————
    Im kinda in the middle or different, i think you prepare for this, you prepare to only keep the very best, because you cant have lots of money tied up in multiple places, so you take a guy who is a real standout, you put your money towards keeping him and another that might be good, just not great, you let walk and if you have done your drafting right, the guy behind him steps up and has his day and you dont miss a beat. You obviously cant let everyone walk and you cant keep everyone, there is a balance and money vs production works out.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      That’s all fine and dandy, but if you don’t have a QB you better have a great team around him, if you have a great QB you can get away with more mediocre talent.

  7. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I work in an office that is subdivided into little offices
    Its full of start up businesses with little office spaces

    So there are a lot of people from different businesses and offices in the building
    they have 3 floors in the building

    make more sense now

    Also…I have posted a sign outside my door that says “whores enter here sans pants”
    so there is that

  8. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Projected

    LT Albert
    LG Bushrod
    C Pouncey
    RG?
    RT James
    UFA or Draft* – we still have June 1st cuts

    TE Cameron

    WR Landry
    WR Parker
    WR Stills

    QB Tannehill

    RB Ajayi/?
    Draft*

    Are we really so void of talent on offense? I don’t think so.

    • Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

      You wouldn’t think so, but somehow it is. I see some gaping holes at the guard spot. If that isn’t fixed, we can only expect to see more of the same.

  9. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Just not a big fan of our free agency so far. I like the new guys pretty good but we aren’t filling holes. We needed CB, OG, RB, LB, early in the FA period. We still have all of those needs and most of the best FAs are gone. There are solid OGs left but the other groups are pretty bare. It looks like Gase wanted certain players, and we really didn’t get anyone he would want. You may not win in FA but considering we draft like ass, we might want to actually improve the talent just a bit.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t particularly think our offseason is bad

      but I’m disappointed in where we are

      I feel like a lot of problems are coming to a head now

      We need a CB: well now we have let Grimes, Sean Smith and Vontae Davis go int he last few years

      We need a DE: Well the Dion Jordan bust pick jumps out at me

      The OL: Oh don’t get me started

      We need a RB now: Well if we didn’t have so many holes, it would all make sense

      but we’ve been creating holes now for years. Its not just this offseason
      Its a cycle of things that has us here
      If we would have tried to resign all those players that left this offseason, I don’t think it would have made up for the last few years

      I’m upset
      but not at this single offseason

      • New Age's avatar New Age says:

        Yeah, but where does doing nothing help? A lot of that is letting go of talented draft picks…just like this offseason. We still get some comp picks if we actually get good players. It feels like all they care about is the comp for next year. Fuck actually fielding the best team we can.

        That’s part of the problems with analytics. You have a spead sheet junkie making decisions without ever looking past the sheet. That’s how it feels to me at least.

  10. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    New Age

    I have to disagree man. It’s about damn time that they broke the chain of irresponsibility, spending crazily in FA. I’m so glad we did it this off season, and we MUST continue to do it each year. Even if we have to draft to fill holes, think about it this way, at least we’ll get to see if what if what we drafted was good! Bushrod may move inside to OG, So glad we didn’t overpay for OV, or MillerTime for that matter. I think we took a big step in the right direction bud, really do. This madness could have continued forever, but it seems like they’re very much against doing that.

  11. D's avatar D says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 13: Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 11: Jonathan Bullard, DE/DT, Florida (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 10: Deion Jones, OLB, LSU (B)
    Round 4 Pick 9: Connor McGovern, OG, Missouri (A)
    Round 5 Pick 8: Paul Perkins, RB, UCLA (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 11: Adam Gotsis, DT/DE, Georgia Tech (B+)
    Round 7 Pick 6: Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 10: De’Runnya Wilson, WR, Mississippi State (A+

  12. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Mike E,

    I agree that the big wasteful spending needed to end but what talent have we really invested in this year? Going from completely out of control to inertia doesn’t seem healthy. We aren’t the Pats or Broncos who have had top notch QB play and amazing defensive(or offensive) draft picks to help get over the hump. I don’t want us to go crazy, but i’d like to see some kind of increase in talent. We had a 6-10 team, and then we downgrade and hope for the best? Sounds like a possible disaster.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      The thing is, we would NEVER become the Broncos, Patriots or Steelers by continuing down the same path we’ve been traveling for a decade or more. We had to put on the brakes, and really, I think the Mario signing was a solid one. The trade I’m a little more cautious on, because a lot depends on how Maxwell and especially Alonso play. I have to say, I’d love to draft Ragland at #13, move Alonso to WLB, and then let Misi, Jenkins and Hewitt fight for the SLB job. I’d go CB in RD 2, and then look for an OG in RD 3.

      • New Age's avatar New Age says:

        Our 4th OG in as many drafts? I like Ragland and hope Maxwell becomes the #1 CB even though he never has. If we want to be like the Steelers or Broncos, shouldn’t we be keeping our young talent? We have a few of our last 5 drafts even on the team? I dont want to pay those bloated contracts either but where’s the rest of our draft talent at? Where are the other success stories?

  13. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    All we’ve done is try not to make the draft about too many needs. We have some talent, folks. It’s time to take the next step.

  14. jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

    I think the best approach is the draft for salary cap reasons and development plus to get older players that are 1 foot out the door concerning their NFL career.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I like the experience with the older players, but you have to be careful with them, as they get hurt and don’t recover.

      • jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

        I like them fighting knowing full well it may be their last chance to play in NFL. In addition the young guys will learn from older guys plus they will see the passion of wanting to play.

  15. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    D

    What do you think of Christian Westerman?

  16. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    New Age

    When do the Steelers ever keep their young talent? It’s so rare, I can’t even think of an example

  17. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    New Age

    As far as the OG’s, it sucks, but you gotta keep trying until you nail one. I think Douglas may a keeper, but Not sure about Turner, and I think the Dallas Thomas experiment should be over by now.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I was done with Turner 2 yrs ago, then he flashed a little in camp last yr, and now he’s shit again. Time to let him go.

  18. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    That’s the difference Mike. When you are already a successful organization, you don’t have as many needs. You don’t have to nail every pick, take risks on big- money FA signing, etc.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Yeah, but you have to start somewhere Bri, or it’s a vicious cycle. You have to end the spending sprees trying to fix everything in one off season. You get a few pieces, mostly depth, and start drafting well. That’s the right way to build a team.

  19. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    Huh, so I guess Moore re signed for two years.

  20. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    We’re trying to field a complete NFL team while allowing youngsters to outperform the vets. Not playing guys out of necessity. That’s what I’m seeing.

    Even the NFLN was mocking dropping a 6-6 290 guy into coverage. Williams sets the edge in the run game and rushes the passer when a team has to pass. Sure he can drop in a zone blitz from time to time, maybe 12-15 times all season, not that many times per game. LOL

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I don’t believe that, Williams quit on the Bills therefore he’s shit, and can never get back to anything that resembles a very good level, because it was written by the genius media 😉

  21. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    We have enough talent on the team to compete, but without average players to fill in where we don’t have very good talent and without depth to fill in when guys get banged up we’re screwed. Last yr our biggest personnel downfall was S opposite Jones, MLB, CB opposite Grimes until Lippett got it going late, and on O both Gs.

    Quddus has proven to be at least average enough that he’s not going to Aikens it. Lippett to me should be starting, he may get beat once in a while, but his playmaking is worth it. Bobby McCain can hold down the nickel. Maxwell and Jones will be fine. I can live with that secondary, but its pretty thin after that, so we must draft a CB in the 1st or 2nd.

    The LBs we have with Alonso in the middle should make the group at least adequate, Ragland may push the group above average.

    Front 4 starters are very good, unless Wake isn’t ready to play, but the depth other than Phillips is thin.

    On O I think with Bushrod playing G or RT and moving James inside will give us at least a line that will allow RT some time. We still need a 4th WR and an RB, which should come soon. It would be retarded to not at least sign an RB FA for $2M, we don’t need a great one, just someone that can run for 3 yrds at crucial times.

    FA has just begun for this FO, last yrs team had already blown their wad by this time. The bargains will start to come soon.

  22. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Bri

    Antonio may be the best WR in the NFL, we don’t have a guy even close to that kind of talent or pedigree.

    • Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

      I know, but the Steelers were smart enough to lock him up before he got really good, and let Wallace walk in the process. They’ve done a good job of keeping their young talent (Ike Taylor, polomalu, Heath Miller, Harrison, etc). You can’t deny that.

  23. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    I’m not a fan of being a fan. Been a monuMENTAL waste of time…..

  24. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LOL Bri – I didn’t think that was the case. 🙂

  25. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Piggy on his way into work every afternoon with a hangover from the night before.

  26. jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a19886/kremlin-looking-for/

    Are you a dolphin? Looking to get into military work? Floss regularly? The Russian government may have a job for you.​

  27. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    New Ravens WR Mike Wallace says he had no intention of re-signing with the Vikings.
    “When this process started, I knew that I wasn’t going back to Minnesota,” Wallace said matter of factly. “I was like, ‘I need a good quarterback.’ I need a quarterback who I know is proven and can get things done.” Per the Baltimore Sun’s Jeff Zrebiec, Wallace’s comments sounded less incendiary in person, but it confirms Wallace viewed Teddy Bridgewater’s weak arm as a major concern.

  28. jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

    They are calling trump the winner of Florida yet they didn’t count dade/broward and PB votes yet.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Buh Bye shrinking marco. Your own state is onto you and who propped you up.

    • jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

      something happened between bush and rubio which no one is talking about. bush didn’t even endorse the guy yet they were said to very good friends. I won’t say trump wins considering their are 1million votes in dade broward and pb AND THESE ARE RUBIO STRONG COUNTIES

  29. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    We should have locked up Miller and OV before their contracts were up but we are the Dolphins.

  30. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Mike E,

    8 of the 11 starters on Pittsburgh’s D were drafted by Pitt. 6 of their OL. Their QB, backup QB, RB, top 2 WRs, one of their TEs. They draft almost all of their talent and keep it. We don’t even have 7 guys from our drafts before 2014 that really play.

    If you aren’t going to get good players from FA, then you have to draft extremely well. Have we done that and do we keep that talent? It sure doesn’t look like it.

  31. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Anyone have any idea what happened to Demontre Moore or Quentin Coples?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Coples was released, as we knew he would be with that monster 2016 cap figure. Moore is still on the team with his $700K cap hit.

  32. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I’m not upset about losing OV

    Miller, Mattews and Shelby on the other hand, seems like they could have made a push to keep those guys without spending a lot before free agency began

  33. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    New Age

    You just made my point. That’s what we need to do. Whether we can or not, remains to be seen, but that’s the model right there. It has to start sometime, and now is a good time. Let’s nail this draft, then do it again next year, and we’re on our way!

  34. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    sb7mvp says:
    March 15, 2016 at 8:14 pm

    We should have locked up Miller and OV before their contracts were up but we are the Dolphins.

    miller i get. i mean no one knows if he could handle a regular load of 20-25 attempts a game but i get wanting to resign him. but OV i dont get. OV never did anything but average play for the fins.

  35. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Matthews was a PITA until this past season when he finally pulled his head out of his ass, Miller was seldom used (Admittedly not his fault), and Shelby was OK, nothing special. OV I could say we could have locked up, but I’m not sure they were really convinced he’s that good. That’s the biggest mistake IMO. We could have signed OV early and got him for what he was worth.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I think the idea is
      Build a foundation
      And build off that

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        I agree. I’m not as upset about losing Miller as a most of you guys are. I am curious to see how he does with a full workload though.

  36. jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

    ohio almost ensures a contested convention.

  37. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    jetssuck, the Bush family abandoned Rubio cause they knew he was going to lose badly like Jeb before him. So the Brush’s are now behind Cruz while holding their nose. Cruz actually worked for pappy George years ago.
    They’re hell bent on stopping Trump.

  38. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Piggy

    Coples we cut, but I thought Damontre Moore was still on the roster.

  39. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    Mike E. says:
    March 15, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    … That’s the biggest mistake IMO. We could have signed OV early and got him for what he was worth.

    how? he was at best an average player and he got played like he was the best to ever play the game.

  40. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    We sign Alfred Morris yet?

  41. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    getterdone says:
    March 15, 2016 at 9:10 pm

    We sign Alfred Morris yet?

    are you kidding? if the did OD wouldnt know what to do?

  42. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I bet between Miller, Shelby, Matthews, OV and Grimes
    most of them are with different teams within a couple of years

    its not the point though
    the point is to have something in place
    and then bring the next group along

    Anyway, like I said before
    I think its less about 2016 and more about the last few years
    and seeing everything come to a head now

    The Free Agents crop this year was really weak when you look at it
    our team had some of the best players hitting the market
    which was really odd

    but think about how differently you would view this team if we hit on Dion Jordan, or we didn’t trade Vontae Davis
    Omar (worthless opinion but I’m gonna mention it) said something about signing a change of pace back like Reggie Bush….hmmmm….that name sounds familiar…did he used to play in Miami

    its just a lot of combined change over

    I look at a team lie Pitt
    and I see they kept Lawrence Timmons (former 1st rounder) through some subpar years
    and then they drafted Bud Dupree, Ryan Shazier and Jarvis Jones the last 3 years in the 1st round
    and those are their starting 4 LBs
    and they go into this offseason without worrying about LBs

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I’ll bet you anything you want to be OV is still on the Giants in 2 yrs. No way can they cut him with that much dead money. I only see Grimes not making it more than 2 yrs, just because of his age.

  43. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Alfred Morris’ stats the past 4 yrs have decline so much that I don’t think I’d pick him up at any price.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I just took a closer look at the FA RBs and by comparison Morris isn’t that bad, yikes!

      I think it’s safe to say we’ll be drafting one in the first 3 rounds. I think Ezekiel is looking pretty good now at #13.

  44. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    so does this mean we draft Zeke in round 1? I think Philly will get him first . (Irony) I still like Kenyon Drake and Marshall from Georgia as midround RBs that could be better in the pros than they seemed to be in college. CJ Prosise is another guy we should look at in the 4th. I like his upside.

  45. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

  46. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Mike E,

    I get your point but I doubt the Dolphins brass does. If you want to build through the draft, why get rid of pick #8 when you might get elite? Isn’t that what you try to build around?

    No? So, you want two starters and pick #8 isn’t much different than #13. Then why do you not just get a solid OG in FA since you trying to find starters supposedly. Take a chance on Spence, Robinson, etc?

    No? Oh, you just trying to find value? Then what was Suh and Maxwell? Maxwell almost didnt pass his physical but your paying him $8 mill this year?

    I don’t think they have a damn clue. This is Tannenbaum who almost gutted the Jets before he left. Played draft games, is an analytics guru, etc. You know who else is an analytics guru? The Sixers GM and they have been one of the worst franchises in basketball since he got there.

  47. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Patriots signed DE Chris Long, formerly of the Rams, to a one-year contract.
    It made too much sense after the Patriots shipped RE Chandler Jones to the Cardinals via trade on Tuesday.

  48. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    You can have all the talent on your team, but if you don’t have the right talent for your team, or if you don’t know how to use guys properly it does no good (SF before Harbaugh), and that’s what I think we’ve been doing for far too long. Philbin clueless, Ireland clueless, Sporano clueless, but at least he had the team playing physical.

    We’ll have to see, but Gase seems to know what he’s doing. You don’t get ringing endorsements from players and coaches without doing something right.

  49. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Some coaches have a plan and some coaches just go through the motions. You would think it wouldn’t be that hard to figure out who has a clue in an interview. The guys that say I’m going to do this and that are talkers, those that say what they’ve done are gold.

  50. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    ok which one of you fuckers is this

  51. D's avatar D says:

    Mike, I really like westerman, though usually when I’m picking OG and westerman is there, si us tretola and I like him better lol. Also really like Spencer drango

  52. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    Classy tweet by CJ Anderson

  53. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Let’s say we decide we need to draft a RB early

    In that. Add I would rather just draft OL as well as RB in days 1/2

    Or let’s just go defense both days (my original al plan)

    I just want our team to at least be good on one side of the ball

    We weren’t good at anything last season
    Let’s have an indenting in 2016
    A great defense
    A great running game
    Something please!!!!!

  54. Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

    just thought I’d drop in and say “shit” on losing Anderson.

  55. 81Howie's avatar 81Howie says:

    No need to scroll through all the comments, Rhino has it for me right up above…
    DAMN-DAMN-DAMN!

  56. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    @Brickwallblitz: NEW: The complete deep ball stats and grades for 33 quarterbacks in 2015. See where yours ranks. https://t.co/X1Diytx2Hu

  57. uwantwat's avatar uwantwat says:

    This is why we grabbed JA last drive, his time to shine while we grab his replacement this draft. Williams is only a change of pace back IMO. Still I’m really pissed with the Broncos matching. Arseholes! Btw morning folks.

  58. uwantwat's avatar uwantwat says:

    draft not drive.

  59. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    Lacking in CBs, but increases physicality:

    OLB NOAH SPENCE
    EASTERN KENTUCKY
    42: R2P11
    G CODY WHITEHAIR
    KANSAS STATE
    73: R3P10
    RB DERRICK HENRY
    ALABAMA
    108: R4P9
    DT CHRIS JONES
    MISSISSIPPI STATE
    148: R5P8
    ILB BENIQUEZ BROWN
    MISSISSIPPI STATE
    187: R6P11
    OT WILLIE BEAVERS
    WESTERN MICHIGAN
    228: R7P6
    ILB ANTONIO MORRISON
    FLORIDA
    232: R7P10
    CB WAYNE LYONS
    MICHIGAN

  60. uwantwat's avatar uwantwat says:

    I like that draft a lot DBolt.

  61. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    There’s a lot of talk about who we should have re-signed but why stay status quo when we didn’t win with them? If all our own guys were so great we should have had more success.

  62. uwantwat's avatar uwantwat says:

    Exactly Tim has nailed it. We never got across the line with those who have left. It’s time to change. To me, the real number one problem is to sort out the OL once and for all. Get some real blockers in there and watch the O fly. The core of the DL is solid and the rest can be worked on in the draft.This team can be turned around this year and quickly IMO.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I agree this team can be turned around sooner than later. When people look at the team and say we need so many upgrades just remember that doesn’t mean we need pro bowlers at every spot, just more competent players than we had. Some of the positions weren’t played very well so upgrading them isn’t that much of a challenge.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      oxymorons 🙄
      time for change letting those FA’s walk, they didn’t get us across the line. Oh wait, we can turn this around quickly with better blocking….of whom most are all still here….lol

  63. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Oh crikey! Tim hasn’t nailed shit. What about the other players still here that are very good, that aren’t FA’s? We didn’t win with them either.
    It was failed coaching, flawed systems, crazy shit play calling!!!
    Nobody was gonna win on that team the way it was run.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      You can’t replace everyone and it was performance too.

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        OV’s performance was pretty good. Millertime off the charts, Matthews good, Grimes can still play, etc etc.
        The team’s performance suffered mostly due to coaching, the way it was ran!
        The poor player performance guys are mostly still here for now, some have been or will be cut after further FA & draft, and camp roster trims.

        Glad to have new coaching.

  64. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    Tim drinking the koolaid? I don’t believe it LOL

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Not really, not saying it will happen, saying it can happen. Meaning I won’t be surprised if we are a much better team this year. But until it happens I’m not gearing up for anything.

      • BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

        I was just kidding around. You’re right, until we see this team on the field we have no idea what happens. I do agree with GDP that coaching had a lot to do with our record last year. The team was talented enough to win more than 6 games. Injuries and coaching killed us.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I agree with your last sentence. I didn’t realize how dysfunctional the coaching was too.

  65. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Browns signed ILB Demario Davis, formerly of the Jets, to a two-year, $8 million contract.
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    Damn it. I liked this FA. Very reasonable signing pricewise. Don’t know why the Phins didn’t pay that. Oh well, he’ll disappear at the mistake by the lake.

  66. uwantwat's avatar uwantwat says:

    GDP…you have a valid point but both Tim and I are saying it is fixable quickly. WE as a group of fans have lambasted the OL for the last few years. Get that right and suddenly RT has time to throw, the RBs have holes to run through. We all know the crappy coaching staffs have been shit but they are GONE. Time to embrace the new.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Agreed. Over the years I’ve always seen 1-2 teams able to turn things around quickly with the right coaching, staying healthy, and a few players finally developing into studs.

      So yes, anything can happen. It’s why they play the game. We are already doing better at addressing the OL than in the past, and I still see more moves to come there.
      But the biggest thing to help that OL is a better offensive system & sensible play calling.
      That’s why we got new coaches.
      All the player changes in the world wasn’t going to produce a playoff caliber team ever under the Philbin regime with his clown coordinators!

      • BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

        the jets last year went from 4 wins to 10 with defense and rushing attack. It can be done.

  67. uwantwat's avatar uwantwat says:

    GDP…don’t worry about Davis he is another Hartline, good but not good enough.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Right, but he seemed an upgrade to Misi in the middle and our under developed guys on the outside. But Alonso is better, just got to hope he starts staying healthy so he can show his potential.

  68. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    from Mando. Draft it is

    “So are the Dolphins headed full bore into the third or fourth tier of free agency to find a ball carrier? I’m told no. I’m told the team will likely study the field, keep in touch with a couple of veteran possibilities and perhaps even bring one or two in before the draft. But the team will look at adding a running back in the draft.”

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Alex Collins

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        🐖 approved ^

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        Thanks my squiggly tailed friend.
        Collins seems to have a little bit of the qualities of both Zeke & Henry together. Hopefully he’s still there in the 3rd. But after spending a 5th last year on a promising Ajayi, i’m not sure the Phins will go that early for a RB. Guess we’ll see.

  69. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    How to destroy your sternum

  70. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    So Chris Johnson is visiting today.

  71. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Bolt, I figured we’d still be looking at vet RB’s. Johnson a lil in the tank for the Cards.
    I’d see how healthy Foster is. Starks has been good & at times better than Lacy.
    Then there’s Alfred Morris whom OD is giving a medical to right now.

  72. uwantwat's avatar uwantwat says:

    Going to bed guys cya!

  73. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Pete Prisco has already changed his pick for us from Paxton Lynch to Ezekiel Elliott. LOL

  74. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Dbolt, I posted the CBS mocks and D and I discussed Prisco’s Lynch pick. It was in the Bosa article. It may have been a mistake and he corrected it because it made no sense.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Now that we signed the vet safety Isis, I think we’ll wait a lil later in the draft for any safeties.
      I like Green, but he seems a candidate to go too early.
      I’ve been very big on Sean Davis, but even he’s sneaking up the boards…..I also like for later guys like Justin Simmons & Deon Bush.

  75. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Who’s Prisco?

  76. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    Dolphins holding a private workout with Connor Cook. The plot thickens.

  77. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Dbolt, not sure if Son is a fan of Cook, but he’s not a big fan of Tannehill. Then again he does like MSU QBs. LOL

  78. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    @TonyPauline: Dadi Nicholas/Va Tech performs well at pro day. Interviewing with a bunch of teams including Dolphins & Packers https://t.co/1hhnJZnl24

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Now he’s a guy I was very high on last year. But he stayed in college and had a down senior year and his projection was low this year. I thought he could be a real sleeper.
      Glad his pro-day went well. His combine wasn’t bad either.

  79. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Titans signed ILB Sean Spence, formerly of the Steelers, to a one-year, $2.5 million contract.
    Spence reunites with ex-Steelers DC Dick LeBeau in Tennessee. He was a 2012 third-rounder but missed his first two seasons after suffering a gruesome knee injury after he was drafted.
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    I guess Miami wasn’t impressed when they brought him in.
    I also saw where the Brownies released Karlos Dansby who’s 34 now.

  80. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Are the SS reporters retarded with facts. From Perkins:
    “Johnson, who rushed for more than 1,000 yards in each of his first six NFL seasons, all for Tennessee, has rushed for 351 yards and four touchdowns in the last two years for the New York Jets and Cardinals. He’s played in 27 games in that span, including 15 starts.”

    He’s rushed for 1,477 yards the last two years. LOL

  81. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Connor Cook – talk about some one with no leadership skills

  82. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Omar Kelly ✔ ‎@OmarKelly
    I LOVE Matt Moore, but he’ll never realistically be allowed to compete with Ryan Tannehill. Tannehill would need to get hurt for him to play

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Gee ya think? First off he’s not as talented. Second, QBs that make $3.5M don’t usually compete with QBs making $77M. It’s an investment thing. LOL

    • Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

      Yeah Douchebag, that’s why it’s called a backup quarterback.

  83. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Bucky Brooks has Kevin Dodd going to Miami @ #13….woot woot. 😀

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000644839/article/brooks-mock-draft-40-broncos-land-qb-of-future

  84. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Rams signed DE Quinton Coples, formerly of the Dolphins, to a two-year contract.
    ______________________
    Nice to be able to still find work based solely on being a former top 20 pick.

  85. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I found this funny in this article.
    “In the past, ANSS has given us gems like “Scouts are concerned about Teddy Bridgewater’s small hands” and “Alshon Jeffery’s elbow radius shows poor character.” LOL

    http://247sports.com/Bolt/Anonymous-NFL-scout-says-Connor-Cook-likes-being-a-celebrity-42029127

  86. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    dbolt48 says:
    March 16, 2016 at 2:45 pm (Edit)

    Noooooooooooooo!!!! He is very similar to Chad Henne with his on field inconsistencies, but worse on the college level in this aspect. Reportedly he has the personality of a broken dildo….and physically he couldn’t take college level shots and bounce back.
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    Okay you see the problems with him too. I don’t question his physical talent but I have seen him disappear in big games and I am suspicious of anyone who is a college QB with his level of talent and the coaches refuse to make him a team captain.

  87. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Omar Kelly ✔ ‎@OmarKelly
    I LOVE Matt Moore, but he’ll never realistically be allowed to compete with Ryan Tannehill. Tannehill would need to get hurt for him to play
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    Matt Moore has had opportunities to be a starting QB at Both Carolina pre Cam and Miami pre Tannehill. In each circumstance the team who he started for felt a need to draft a QB in the 1st round.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      He’ll enter the clipboard holding HOF.

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        Not for nothing that is what Moore is a good back up QB. He is a guy you know can come in and start a couple of games and not shit the bed in the process. He will never be a guy who can carry a team for 16 games. I wish we could have kept him but our cap situation is pretty tight and it is hard to pay a back up QB big dollars.

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        Dolphins re-signed QB Matt Moore to a two-year, $3.5 million contract.
        Neither side seemed particularly keen on a reunion, but each struck out in their pursuit of an upgrade. Moore has spent the past five years in Miami, and will be holding Ryan Tannehill’s clipboard for the fifth straight season in 2016. Tannehill is extremely durable, leaving Moore little opportunity to get on the field. Moore turns 32 in August

  88. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Ken, we re-signed Matt Moore 2 years $3.5M.

  89. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    The only debate we can have about Matt Moore is where he ranks as an all time Fins back up QB.
    Earl Morrall was probably the best one in Fins history followed by maybe Don Strock. So, is Matt Moore better than Scott Mitchell? He probably certainly is better than Scott Secules. I guess my criteria for ‘backup’ label in terms of franchise history involves being a backup for 3 or more years.

  90. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Brian in NY says:
    March 15, 2016 at 7:32 pm

    I know, but the Steelers were smart enough to lock him up before he got really good, and let Wallace walk in the process. They’ve done a good job of keeping their young talent (Ike Taylor, polomalu, Heath Miller, Harrison, etc). You can’t deny that.
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    Brown is the first guy they have paid big for in a bit. The Steelers are good at drafting WR. They draft, when player becomes expensive, they unload and enter in a younger WR stuck on a rookie deal.
    They have drafted guys Santanio Holmes, Mike Wallace, Emmanual Saunders and let them all go in FA or via trade. They drafted Antonio Brown (RD 6) in the same draft they took Saunders (RD 3). Those guys all got replaced by guys like Antonio Brown, Martavis Bryant, & Markus Wheaton.

  91. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Eh, I hope the Fins pass on Chris “I don’t block” Johnson. If they want someone in that style they can just take San Jose State’s Tyler Ervin who has a similar style.

  92. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    dbolt48 says:
    March 16, 2016 at 12:46 pm

    William Jackson is who he had picked in his 3rd mock.
    —–
    He’s my favorite CB now in this draft.

  93. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    I’m not worried about RB unless the Fins are looking to not do shit to address the position until the 6th RD. Even then, there will be some options (albeit risky ones).
    I’m not afraid of injuries so that said, c’mon down Keith Marshall :).
    Anyway, outside of that pick that comes with risks, there are plenty of options that would fit the split back duties Miami will utilize.
    My man Paul Perkins (UCLA) is flying under the radar due to a hamstring injury (it was bothering him at his pro day the other day). Tyler Ervin (San Jose State) is a homerun kind of runner (reminds me of Chris Johnson in his running style). DeAndre Washington (Texas Tech) has a lil Ray Rice in him.

  94. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I really don’t get the competition thing with Matt Moore
    He’s just like any other backup
    they see him all season
    if he showed he was a better QB than Tannehill, the coaches would start him

    its not that he’s not be given a chance to compete

  95. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    Speaking of RB…
    Daniel Lasco (Cal)…
    This guy was surprising to see in a highlight film…throw him in as another option (he also tested well in workouts -> 4.46s 40-yd time, 1.54s 10-yd time, 41.5″ vertical, 11′-3″ broad, 23 reps on bench).

    —-
    Might as well look at the same school that produced Marshawn Lynch & CJ Anderson 🙂

    • Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

      Lasco easily had the best vertical/broad jump score of any RB in nfldraftscout’s top 20. Only 3 backs in their top 20 repped more on the bench -> UGA’s Keith Marshall (25), TT’s DeAndre Washington (24), USC’s Tre Madden (24).

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