Why do I keep getting these damn Phyletic Extremity Dysfunction Emails.
I swear I don’t have a problem with my Phyletic Extremity…it works fine…
I have never ordered those damn pills…
Maybe one of my ex-girlfriends gave this company my email..
…hey…wait a second…what does that say about my…um…
never mind…I’m here to talk football!
And today I have a running back for you.
A running back who powers through defenders like a machine that won’t go down!
Jordan Howard is in this alien’s assessment, the most physical back in the 2016 draft.
Yeah, sure Derrick Henry is bigger, but he doesn’t run at guys like Howard does.
at 216 pounds and under 6’0, he is not exactly the next Marshawn Lynch.
You keep thinking about that as he runs you over!
Or you can be a smart human and get out of his way!
In 2015 Howard rushed for over 1200 yards while at Indiana against some pretty stiff Big 10 competition. That was Howard’s only year at Indiana.
Howard was at UAB before Indiana. You know UAB right? The school that dropped football. You feel bad for those kids right?
Well don’t feel too bad for Howard. Transferring to Indiana probably got him to be a Day 2 pick in 2016.
In his college career at both UAB and Indiana, Howard rushed for 3,681 yards.
He didn’t catch a lot of passes. He had 24 total receptions for 261 yards.
but both running and receiving he tallied 27 touchdowns!
The guy can produce and can be a workhorse. Of course when he gets to the NFL he will probably share carries with another NFL back, like most teams use backs these days.
I bet he makes the most of those opportunities!
What really stands out about Howard is his running style.
He just never goes down!
School cancels his football program – He stays up
Defensive End gets in the background – He stays up
Linebacker hits him high – He stays up
DB hits him low – He stays up
Not a day 1 draft pick – He stays up
Kinda reminds me of something…
If Jordan Howard was an Alien Weapon of Destruction…well he might just be that little blue pill that never let’s you go limp.
You can watch his highlights here:
Finsmob Unleashed 
In terms of all time Phins back up QBs it has to be Morrall. He may be the greatest all time back up QB. He was a stud when he had to play for Unitas. I am pretty sure he was the no. 1 rated passer that year. When he had to play for Griese he was once again the no. 1 rated passer in the league.
I was always a fan of Strock too.
Strock was a big influence on Marino.
Prominent ‘Black Lives Matter’ activist and rapper Tef Poe has a message for “white people”:
https://twitter.com/TefPoe/status/710167227627147266
That’s the way to help a ’cause’. MLK would be proud…smh!
What ya bet the mainstream media will never post this story?
He’s not an activist
He’s just some guy on Twitter
I don’t know who he is
What if we post the tens of thousands of stupid things said on Twitter about race
Prominent my ass
I am one that does have concerns about our offense. Yeah…I know…..the old curmudgeon rants again. Lol
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Anyway, we simply didn’t score enough last year. I don’t care who or what you blame. Our offense was inept. Did we end the season right at 20 points or so? Not gonna get it done. We talked about this last year, and folks were telling me not to worry because our offense was just gonna be better than it had been. It’s the same rhetoric this year. The fact is this is an offense that has been consistently bad for awhile. The times I can remember our offense going out and winning a game are few.
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Yes, we have a new offensive coach/scheme…but that usually ends up with your offense stalling or even taking a step back the first year. There’s usually just too much adjustment and a learning curve. This offense has a long ways to go because we need to start scoring around 27 points to be a serious playoff team….not just a one and done. That’s a 7 point swing…huge. I would think that sort of jump is gonna take 2 or even 3 years to make. Even a 4 point jump(which is probably more realistic) sounds small, but it’s not.
need a good creative gameplan & quit going away from the run.
LMAO, one of the funniest stories of the day
@BillyCorben: Florida teen breaks into woman’s house, she shoots him, his family is angry https://t.co/LouYtFph2Z https://t.co/m6uNXPP5O4
I saw that. He’s a good smart boy with good grades, that just needed his money for clothes. SMH!
Exactly. Everyone who makes a conscious decision knows death is a possible outcome. This is what is known as a poor life decision.
The lady should be charged, it’s a grey area that he was climbing out the window, but her life wasn’t in danger. Two wrongs don’t make a right though.
Dbolt,
Yeah, but it’s easier said than done.
Increasing the point total yes, but game planning and run game commitment is coach dictated.
Randy,
I completely agree with you. Lots of hope and dreams here but I don’t see where we have improved this offseason and many are acting like a coaching change is the equivalent to 7-10 points. Lots of holes and expecting rookies to fill them seems a bit optimistic. Same with expecting a bunch of really cheap and old vets to make a massive difference. I just don’t see it.
I belive the right coaching changes 7 right systems paired with sensible play calling can certainly be equivalent to more points as well as giving up fewer points, which can equal more Wins.
We’ve heard & seen many times over the years, that the NFL is a parity league with not a huge difference from team to team, where anyone can win on any given Sunday.
^ the right coaching changes & right systems^
Piggy, that rapper Poe, is a co-founder I believe of Hands Up United that has joined in with the Jay Z funded Black Lives Matter coalition, which includes Hands Up & other so called social activist groups. His real name is Taureen Russell.
He’s no different than what he’s accusing Trump of being.
I agree with you on that! Standards go both ways.
New Age,
I’m trying to be hopeful that Gase is the right coach. I like what he’s done in his coaching career thus far. But, I still have questions about our personnel, leadership and organization. I’m as hopeful as the next fan, of course…but I’m not taking the cheese. Lol
Instead of CJ2K, I’d go with Arian Foster, if he’s healthy enough to play this yr. I want an RB that plays like Arian. Either way we’ll have to get a back in the draft in the top 5 rounds. I don’t see anything wrong with taking a flier on Arian, if he’s healthy he can be pretty good, nothing to loose.
I’ve been championing his cause here after CJ stayed in Denver….also Alfred Morris.
Then still draft a RB by the 5th as you say in case the vet gets dinged up, then he’ll get some carries & exp.
Steve, He may have charged her. We don’t know. But when you break into someone’s home, you have to have or should have a reasonable expectation that you’re gonna get your ass shot!
Armed homeowners are a deterrent. Can you imagine the crime rate if we all have our guns taken away?
She said when she came up to her house he was climbing out the window, doesn’t seem like he was charging her.
I agree though, you have to be held accountable for your actions. I also agree with the family she didn’t have to shoot and kill him. The part about him needing a little money for clothes is no defense for him being in that house, as we all know, but some people…
Foster has suffered numerous injuries over his career, which means he cannot be counted on to be any team’s No. 1 bell-cow back. But Foster certainly has enough talent and playing time left that he can contribute to a committee of backs. Once he’s healthy — which should be sometime this summer — he’ll start making the rounds in earnest before signing with a new team.
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/167623914/nfl-free-agents-best-rest-okung-long-foster
Randy, no doubt we need to do a better job on offense. We have new coaches and we’ll have some new personnel so hopefully we put a good offense out there. I thought our offensive game plans were bad last year and I don’t think that will continue under Gase and Christensen. At least we can hope. 🙂
Still want to get drunk with Christiansen😂
LOL
Looks like the starting job may be Ajayi’s to loose, unless we draft one of the tope 3 or 4 guys. I’m ok with that as long as he has some stiff competition.
Tim,
Ultimately, all we can do is wait and see. I just wanted to comment on some of the dialogue on here over the last couple days. I think our offense needs to improve just as much or even more than our defense. We saw our defense play really, really well several times last year. They weren’t consistent, but they kept us in games several times where the offense just couldn’t hold up their side of it. We need improvement on offense…and not just a little.
It was horrible on offense with the bizarro play calling and formations ran by Lazarro
I do like the skill players we have. We need to solidify the OL and keep our best players on the field which hasn’t happened yet with Albert, Pouncey and James. We need better guard play and we need more consistent play from Tannehill as well. But calling a sensible game plan can go along way. It was really goofy last year. Mind boggling at times.
gdp
Sorry, but I’ve never bought into the idea that Lazor called some bizarre offense. I watched us run the same plays lots of other teams ran. Was there a strange call here and there? Absolutely. Did he go away from the running game too often? Yes. But overall, his offense wasn’t that much different than anybody else’s. I didn’t see it, and I don’t buy it.
Pretty much everyone agrees it was simple and nonsensical offense. Some called it a HS offense in philosophy. I thought it was dumb most of the time. LOL
It’s the way plays were called too. You don’t run a stretch play out of shotgun on 3rd and 3 and you don’t run a bubble screen on 3rd and long. That’s how you punt 10 times per game.
Tim,
“Pretty much everyone” huh? Lol
Read lots of reports from pundits and players both on our team and opponents saying that with Lazor’s exit. Also that Tannehill was handcuffed. When Zac Taylor became OC you saw him trying to call a more sensible down and distance game, but the damage was already done for the season.
I look at it from an overall offensive standpoint but we all know where you want to take this and I’m not taking the cheese. Been there done that. LOL
http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/NFL/2016/03/16/RB-Chris-Johnson-visits-with-Miami-Dolphins/5951458151788/
Has anyone else read that the team is putting Thomas and Turner on a weight training program and they still feel they can become better players? Armando reported it. My guess is these guys are either top heavy or they don’t have enough upper body strength. So they’re going to try this too.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2016/03/dolphins-add-offensivie-lineman-jermon-bushrod.html
Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero 11m11 minutes ago
Dolphins agree to terms with DE Andre Branch:
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2016/03/andre-branch-agrees-to-terms-with-the-miami-dolphins.html
Solid stats for a part time player.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14952/andre-branch
i wished i watched the games randy watched. then all the fins would need is a new qb and they would be SB bound.
Randy,
I like Gase a lot. I like some of the players we got pretty good. I don’t think we are close to as talented right now and expecting a lot from the draft just hasn’t panned out for Dolphins fans for a while now. I think Gase can turn it around especially with a slew of picks next year…the problem is next year. I really haven’t seen anything to be excited about with Tannenbaum though.
Suh, Parker and Phillips last year and adding a few other penciled in starters this offseason in CB Maxwell, LB Alonso, S Abdul-Quddus and OL Bushrod? We also just signed another DE in Andre Branch who is a solid rotation player.
We also cut our cap down last year with our K and P both being UDFAs. They both performed well.
Good point on the K and P. The four you mention this year…none started for 16 games last year. Quddus is a 4 year backup, half year starter. Alonso had one great year. Bushrod is older and was injured last year. Maxwell came in with injury history and wasn’t impressive away from Seattle. Suh is elite, and Hickey was the drafter. Branch might be ok but this is bargain bin shopping from step one this year. Improvement rarely is found in the basement.
So as it stands right now, at DE we have Williams, Wake, Branch, Fede, Moore, McCain, Jordan and some long shots.
It looks like we’re doing exactly what Grier said we wanted to do, address some positions in FA to fill holes and add depth so we don’t have to go into the draft with holes having to reach for needs.
Watched a little March Madness last night. For one of the few moments in my life, I regretted it.–Fairleigh Dickenson did NOT belong in the tournament!–They put on a performance that can only be called “embarrassing.” Florida Gulf Coast could have won with their back-up players!–But the worst was yet to come!!–Watched Wichita State and Vandy play just a horrible game!!–Vandy started out 4 for 12 from the free throw line. And when TWO of their 7-footers missed what amounted to put back lay-ins, I turned it off!! –The NCAA selection committee put these clowns in the tournament, and left out the Monmouth Hawks, who won 17 road games, including at USC and at NOTRE DAME!! —-Tonight’s games have GOT to be better, I HOPE!!
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I NOTE that a few folks have commented on bringing ex-Florida Atlantic and Redskins star Alfred Morris into Dolphins’ camp to kick the tires. Folks, the time to do that was 5 summers ago when a very late round pick COULD have secured Morris’s services for a very low price. But, unfortunately, Alfred is now in the downslope of his career. I just don’t see him being the kind of back who, at this stage, can help Miami become a winning franchise. Ireland decided that neither Alfred Morris nor T.Y. Hilton were worth a look-see, even though BOTH players played their careers about a half-hour’s drive from Ireland’s Davie offices!!! And to think at least ONE member of this board once said “Ireland is the greatest GM in Dolphin’s history!!!” Now THERE’S a real Kool-Aid guzzler!!
Why would Morris be on the down slop at 27 years old?
Also why do you keep going back to Jeff Ireland? He’s been gone for a few years. Who called him the greatest GM in Dolphin’s history?
Home
Smart signing of Branch. He’s not great rushing the passer in tight quarters, but you spread him out wide (wide 9)…he might thrive:
I think the signing is better than us paying more for William Hayes, or the old guy Clemons, Jones, etc.
Now let’s draft Dodd & be ferocious getting at the QB again. Down goes Marsha!
He’s an excellent run defender, but needs to rush out in space. I’ll be interested to see what he does if we truly go wide 9. Seems like that wide split is where he thrives.
When you have to go to college highlights for your best point of a 5th year guy, Im not sure if that means a smart signing or just a cheap addition to the rotation. 😉
That’s a little old no? LOL
Def. old, but could be what the team was looking at also when they brought him in. Could be like Jerry Hughes….needed the right scheme to really reach his potential.
WOW Randy! If we ran the same offense as everyone else then I guess we should just give up and completely rebuild. I guess denver & carolina ran the same offense the best, and the patriots, the seahawks, the steelers……
Paging Darron Lee, Paging Darron Lee:
http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/14990221/chicago-bears-trade-martellus-bennett-new-england-patriots-draft-pick-compensation
Lee? Not sure he’s the answer to those big boys in coverage, Bennett & Gronk….hopefully our new vet FA Isis can disrupt their routes.
I’d take Dieon Jones or Beniquez Brown later and get better results.
Branch is the prototype DE build for our 4-3 & could be joined ba Clemson alum in Dodd or Lawson…lol
For one year $3M, it’s good vet insurance if Wake breaks down.
GDP,
Dodd, Spenxe, Nassib, McCallister, Kuafpoof, are all guys who could grow in this D and have really bright futures.
That’s a lil too optimistic, but I get the point. 😉
New Age, you down played every guy I mentioned and not everything you said is really accurate. The idea is that these guys are better than some of the guys we had out there last year. Maxwell for instance played very well from week 3 thru 13 but all people remember were his few bad games. Alonso was one year removed from knee surgery last year and he had a setback for 5 games but played the final 9 games and finished up well. This is his only his 4th season. Bushrod is a quality player who signed with us knowing he’ll be playing LG to start.
Did you want us to sign every top FA we could find? We’re trying to fill voids to open up our draft.
If you’re not confident in what we’ve done that’s fine, but none of know how this will play out. There is talent there.
LSU CB Rashard Robinson met with the Denver Broncos on Sunday night.
Robinson ran forties between between 4.42 and 4.45 at Monday’s pro day, an improvement from his performance at the Combine. TFY Draft Insider’s Tony Pauline reported that Robinson, whose Combine tests underwhelmed, became sick while in Indianapolis, either the explanation or a convenient excuse. Either way, 21 teams attended, including, per Pauline, “a combination of secondary coaches, defensive coordinators and even [a] few head coaches [came to] Baton Rouge primarily to watch Robinson, who is all over draft boards.”
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This CB really intrigues me. Hopefully he’ll fall just right to us when we’re drafting. Has that taller frame that VJ seems to be looking for.
GD, I think it was O Rob who always said Ireland was the best we had now that I think of it but that’s one person. LOL
What happened to Orob?
Don’t know, thought about that too as I posted that. I hope he’s well.
I thought maybe he was on the other blog maybe.
I have to admit I really have no idea who we’re targeting at #13. My guess is CB.
Apple or Alexander @ #13?
It’s funny every time you mention a guy someone chimes in on how he’s not all that. LOL
getterdone says:
March 16, 2016 at 8:43 pm
I thought maybe he was on the other blog maybe.
Nope!
Tim,
I’m just showing the opposite opinion that these guys aren’t necessarily upgrades. Roll of the dice, hopeful upgrades but that’s it. Bushrod hopefully fixes our OL but he’s older, coming off an injury, and changing positions. Should be good but dicey. RB…no answers. Pass rush. Wake who probably wont be 100 % until maybe early October? Was injured early last year as well and probably breaking down. Williams is one hell of an answer but where else? Our next two best rushers are gone. LBs should be better IF Alonso isn’t just like Misi and always battling through one injury or another. In the backfield, Qaddus is really very untested. Maxwell may be an equal CB as Grimes but who is next?
I don’t need the top FAs but there are a lot of questions and I don’t like a ton of questions leading into the draft. I want the best players for Gase and really solid planning. I just don’t think they planned ahead on a lot of decisions.
Maxwell is an upgrade over Grimes, because Grimes killed us in the division last yr, he got used and abused by Marshall and Watkins. His rating was better than Maxwell last yr, because he picked off more passes, but Grimes is on the decline. Lippett is already better than Taylor, so our CBs are upgraded from what started last yr.
Bushrod could go to every game drunk and still be an upgrade at G, and if he isn’t cutting it there he’ll switch with one of our tackles. Same thing with Alonso, he could go to every game drunk…
OV isn’t very good against the run, Williams is an upgrade there, and I’m not sold on OV being a good pass rusher, we know Williams is.
The combination of Miller and Williams at RB wasn’t good running the ball, I’d be ok, if we replaced Williams too.
I don’t get why as soon as someone turns 30 they’re getting older? OL can play long after 30, it’s not RB.
Most of that is hope. Marshall and Watkins have abused just about everyone they have faced so I don’t know where the confidence in Maxwell being different comes from? Size? Is that it? Lippett may be better than Taylor.. I guess we won’t go CB early then.
Bushrod is an upgrade but only if healthy. Alonso has to prove he can stay healthy. Healthy enough not to be on team 3 by year 4. That’s awful!
Williams is obvious upgrade but where is the depth? Before you mention those guys, none of them really have shown much.
When someone hits 30 in football, they are getting older. It happens to us all. Just because OL usually play a lot longer than RBs doesn’t mean they dont get beat on constantly. It’s a hard job. For every Bruce Matthews there is a Marc Columbo.
Tim, Kendall Fuller could be a steal in the 2nd round, but Artie Burns really grew on me too.
Are these guys that far off from Hargreaves??? I say no, and I like Hargreaves.
I’d take Hargreaves at #13, but he’s a little small for my liking.
I tend to think Hargreaves and Alexander are both much better than fuller
I like fuller
But yes – there is a drop off
If you are looking for a chance to obtain a CB who can be among the best in the league – I think Heargreaves and Alexander are those 2 guys
There is nothing wrong with the group after those 2:
Apple, Fuller, Burns and Jackson
But i do think those 2 might be really good in the NFL
I prefer we just try to nab an elite player
Maybe we miss
But it would be nice if we added a stud
I got my reservations about Alexander. He needs to be more physical, that’s what we’re looking for.
Piggy, both Madison and Surtain were both 2nd rd picks though Jimmy Johnson did trade a future 1st to get the 2nd to land Surtain. To me that was an example if you really like a prospect, go get him. They both worked out. The best CB tandem in the league for 4-5 years.
I see Dbolt posted GAME TAPE of Andre Branch above and even though it’s from college he gets it.
You would hope he honed his skills a bit since then.
Got called away for a few minutes. To answer a question, “WHO called Ireland the greatest GM in Dolphin’s history?” three names come to mind: TOP, HOME, and ORob. A fourth name may also be involved but, to be sure, there was a time when Ireland was considered BETTER than Joe Thomas or Bobby Beatherd by some on this board. Also, the connection of Alfred Morris and T.Y. Hilton to Ireland’s failed years as GM is obvious and should need no further explanation. –Hope all you Kool-Aiders get plenty to drink tonight!! –Sweet dreams to all of you. –The Old Dolfan is OUT.
It wasn’t Home!
Not at all defending his shit by the way!
getterdone says:
March 16, 2016 at 8:40 pm
What happened to Orob?
i heard he was now engage to omar and all they do is spend long hours late at night discussing how tanny is the worst qb ever and they just look pictures of david garrard poolside and wonder which way it hangs.
Oh Omar knows which way it hangs. Poor Garrard ‘injured’ himself at that pool trying to get away from his stalker. Only Miko was able to get Omar off of him and that was with her amazing mouth…
just got to love those blanket statements about how awful some one was in the past. like people here know or i should say knew more then them at the time but use hindsight to come on here and berate others.
New Age says:
March 16, 2016 at 9:26 pm
Oh Omar knows which way it hangs.
thats probably true. i guess when you are 3’4″ tall it is easy to look up a mans swim trunks
What if Suh has his best year and Tannehill excels?
Does Gase look like he is wondering what Ross’ liver tastes like with onions and a nice Chianti in this picture or what
maybe he is thinking, I hope I’m not a nail that hasn’t been hammered down by Ross today
https://twitter.com/RoloEdits/status/710254759932858368
Rock
I was thinking that sometimes Gase has a little John Harbaugh in him, where he looks like he might just snap any second.
Gae is thinking ” and my kids think 37 is old as hell. Ross looks like dehydrated grapes.”
GDP
TJ is a late round pick!
Tim Knight says:
March 16, 2016 at 9:36 pm
What if Suh has his best year and Tannehill excels?
that isnt possible. havent you been paying attention. tanny sucks, he is not only the worst qb in the nfl but cfl too. and well ross is the worst owner in the history of anyone who has ever owned anything, even worse then the homeless man who only owns a cardboard box. so it isnt possible anything good ever happens
gase is thinking
‘wholly cow OD is right’
steveccnv says:
March 16, 2016 at 6:28 pm
The lady should be charged, it’s a grey area that he was climbing out the window, but her life wasn’t in danger. Two wrongs don’t make a right though.
Are you serious Bro?????????????????
DUMBASS broke into my house and It is my fault he got shot????????????
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rnc-member-%E2%80%98political-parties-choose-their-nominee-not-the-general-public%E2%80%99/ar-BBqxYNk?li=BBnb7Kz
so much for every vote counts
That’s what people mean when they say oligarchy. Our political process has become a business and that’s not what it’s suppose to be. The voice of the people or the voice of 5%?
This is what I’m seeing that we’re doing, add some starter potential and some depth over the young green guys we played last year but allow them to compete for playing time this year. Then draft.
Do not be surprised if we trade up. Look at the moves we’ve made this offseason. We may target a special prospect in the draft.
Like him or not, Tannenbaum is aggressive in nature. This team is built for 2016-17. You don’t sign Suh in 2015 to focus on 2018 with Tannehill, Albert and Pouncey also locked up. Makes no sense.
I was listening to Boomer and Carton on WFAN, and they mentioned that not a single player from the NY Jets 2012 Draft is still on the team. Sounds a lot like the shit that’s happened here (Before T-Bomb)
If it’s not clear, Mike T. was the GM at the time . . .
You have to look at it from the perspective that 5 of their 8 picks were three 6th rd picks and two were 7ths. 1. Coples didn’t pan out, 2. Stephen Hill was definitely a bust and 3. Davis who is a good player left in FA this year.
So it wasn’t a great draft for him for sure, but that happens 4 years out.
Haven’t used first pick in a while, I had one trade and gained 2 picks:
Picks:
Round 1 Pick 20 (NYJ): Noah Spence, DE, Eastern Kentucky (B)
Round 2 Pick 11: Cody Whitehair, OG, Kansas State (A)
Round 2 Pick 20 (NYJ): Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State (A)
Round 3 Pick 10: Devontae Booker, RB, Utah (A+)
Round 3 Pick 20 (NYJ): Kenny Clark, DT, UCLA (A+)
Round 4 Pick 9: Jordan Jenkins, OLB, Georgia (A)
Round 5 Pick 8: James Bradberry, CB, Samford (B+)
Round 6 Pick 11: Dadi Lhomme Nicolas, OLB, Virginia Tech (B+)
Round 7 Pick 6: Deiondre’ Hall, CB, Northern Iowa (A)
Round 7 Pick 10: Antwione Williams, OLB, Georgia Southern (B-)
Your Future Picks:
2017 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick
Tim
The first 2 picks were awful. Coples had a bad rep to begin with, and Hill had hands of stone.
Didn’t Tannenbaum want Jones, but Ryan had a preference for Coples? I was never big on the Hill pick, but his freakish athletic ability , size, & predecessors pushed him up boards.
But Coples was considered a 1st rd pick by everyone though. I never thought Hill would pan out. He had size and speed and that’s it. He ran like a newborn horse. LOL
I remember calling Coples QuitON Coples, because he used to just chill and take plays off.
I do remember the nick name and also was never a fan of him. I was high on them signing him for shits & gigs during the year to see if there was anything there.
Mike, I was never a Coples fan either. Personnel isn’t Tannenbaum’s greatest strength anyway, he’s more of an administrator. That’s why he’s not the GM and Grier is.
Well, he’s still involved in personnel, and you even said it yourself that we may trade up because Tannenbaum is aggressive, so which is it? Is he involved, or not involved? lol
Yes on big moves and what kind of money we spend for sure he’s very involved, but he’s not the guy who does all the leg work for guys like Branch for instance. That’s Joe Schoen and Anthony Hunt overseen by Grier than brought to Mr. T and Aponte for cap approval.
Ryan Tannehill is the only Miami Dolphins player left from our 2012 draft, mostly because we let OV, MillerTime and Rishard Matthews walk this year. Just bad timing with Suh’s arrival and Tannehill getting paid.
That’s why I say the 3-4 year plan isn’t realistic anymore because every year teams lose some of their guys to FA and add some from other teams. Too much turnover to build that far down the road.
Tim
I hope that Mr. T stays in the shadows, and doesn’t have a say in every pick we make. Let Grier, and his scouts, and of course Adam Gase make those calls.
I view Mr. T as the director of how the team shapes up but isn’t the front runner in acquiring personnel. That’s Grier’s job.
I hope that’s how Mr. T views Mr. T. lol
Andre Branch is considered a very good set the edge guy and plays the run well. He’ll likely play LDE. As a reserve he gets his fair share of sacks 14 and 5 FF and 3 FR shows he’s an active player.
Mike, Tannenbaum had the chance to be the GM but hired Grier instead. Personnel is a time 24/7 job. Mr. T has to many other responsibilities to commit all his time to personnel.
That doesn’t mean he’s not behind the scenes pulling the strings. He hired him, so he’s boss. I’m not saying that he definitely is, but it’s totally possible.
I think people want to believe that so they can blame him when something fails. LOL
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/710462977854537729
LOL
All of a sudden RB might just be our biggest position of need in the draft, espeicially if we don’t sign CJ2K. (or even if we do) We simply cannot go into the season with Ajayi and Williams as our RB1 and RB2.
I would love it if we moved up in the first and took Zeke! We could still get a starting OG in the 2nd or even 3rd maybe.
We have 2 players from the 2010 draft (Misi, Reshad), 1 from the 2011 draft (Pouncey). That’s a big part of why we’re filling in all these spaces, but thankfully, we’re doing it right this time.
Lost Clay to a heavy payday last year from the 2011 class.
Not sure how we play Wake, Williams, and Branch all @ LDE.
Williams can and has played on the right side as well. Wake is likely going to be a situational pass rusher, not a starter. Think of Branch as a replacement for Shelby.
My guess is we won’t have Wake for the beginning of the season, if ever.
Yeah not sure with him yet.
I view Branch as Shelby’s replacement , which is an important need and well done on our part.
Ha! See above.
You can’t move Williams to RDE. That is Dion Jordan’s spot.
SMH
LOL
Tim
It’s ironic that we had 2 starting CB’s in Vontae and SS, but we gave up on both of them, and of course, we’re scrambling for CB’s now
Well they were drafted in 2009 and if you remember there were plenty of fans who criticized both of them, then when they’re gone they say the opposite and blame management. LOL
Naples
I’d be surprised if we go RB with our 1st pick, but I can understand it, if we want to really make a commitment to running the ball. We better be feeding Zeke at least 20-25 touches a game if we do draft him RD 1
Agreed.
I think we still go defense or oline with 13th pick.
Tim
I always liked Sean Smith, and I did like Vontae when we drafted him, but I understood he was acting like an ass, and he probably needed a change.
I always liked what Smith’s size and speed suggested he was capable of. That’s a hard package to find in a DB. What I didn’t like was that he didn’t live up to it on the field, least while he was here.
He had his ups and downs, but he was always solid.
man the pats quietly are making some great moves. Although I think chandler jones deal could be a mistake. he was a bad ass and I bet tanny is happy he’s gone.
I know they wanted to fix the O-line, but to trade Chandler Jones to do it? Why??? Can’t say that was a good move right there.
They don’t like Jones’ character. It wasn’t really even about Cooper. The 2nd rd pick was the key.
Lets say the BPA is a DE
I would have no problem taking a DE
But I would love to see a DL of
Wake Suh Phillips Williams
next season
with the Jordan, Moore, Mitchell, Branch, Fede off the bench
Our DL might be good
if they can figure out how to work Williams and wake in together and wake is healthy
a lot “if”s right there. If wake is healthy. If jordan stays off drugs. If williams plays ball. If branch is better than shelby
I’m not worried about Williams, he can still play. Branch should be solid. Wake’s Achilles and Jordan’s head are concerns.
I don’t think it would be such a bad idea to draft Ellito in the 1st round and then look at OL in the 2nd round
Sort of focus on building that RB
But here is another option
Trade down
take OL with a late 1st rounder (like Spriggs who can probably play inside)
Then take a RB with a 2nd rounder
a guy like Henry (not my pref), Howard, Collins or Booker
We should have at least an extra 2bd with a trade down
Something like that can work in a RB, OL, LB and CB in the first
That way Piggy gets his linebacker
which makes bacon better
I like your trade down idea only if we get a solid starter on the oline with that pick.
I liked Sean Smith when we drafted him. But I didn’t like his lack of open field tackling and he didn’t contest enough balls that his size would suggest.
He had the most tackles in his career his last year here, and forced 3 fumbles that year too. He defensed about the same amount of passes here as he has with KC, and he still hasn’t brought in more than 2 INT’s in a season. That was always his weak spot, he wasn’t a ballhawk
Mando is a funny guy
“Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero
If you read Pats traded for Martellus Bennent, signed Chris Long, Chris Hogan, & getting OG Jonathan Cooper and a No. 2 pick, don’t worry…
Why should we, it’s not that impressive? They traded the best player.
With Matt Moore signing we at least don’t have to worry about back-up QB. And that settles another issue — what to send to Moore’s funeral when the time comes..
RE the patsies* moves, Cooper sucks and is a bust, Long is slower than I am and almost as old in dog yrs w/ no NFL tread left on those tires, Bennett has a bigger mouth than stat sheet although I am sure bellycheat will use him well, and Hogan is a cute story for Hard Knocks TV, but he could not make our team then or now.
Chandler Jones however is a STUD and they LOST him. Mando alarmed for naught again.
watch them win 13 games with these same busts. While we win 7 games with the incredible talent we have on this team. LOL
I think Hogan is a perfect fit to be there new Wes Welker.
He’s not a gnat sized WR though, he’s 6-1 220.
He works the inside though and has shifty moves to get open.
the Matt Moore signing means we do not need to draft a QB, so I suggest the smash-mouth safety Sean Davis instead.
Boulder
That Pats may well win more games than us, but it’s because of Belichick/Brady, not Martellus Bennett, or Jonathan Cooper. They have always had that advantage over us, but hopefully, Gase narrows the gap some.
I just think making fun of pats moves is comical.
Personally, I like them better w/o Chandler Jones
No one is beyond reproach. I think it was a bad move trading Chandler Jones. It may not hurt them, because they can win with less, they always have, but on the face of the trade, I think they got weaker by trading Jones.
We have beaten NE on a regular basis. It’s the other 31 teams that give us fits.
OR if the rest of the league had the same WL %age with the cheats as we do, they would’ve been a regular 9-7 team.
We STILL have a better WL %age than they do — .561 to .548
We are 53-48 against NE all time.
We have split with them the last 3 years, and also 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008, and 2009, but the last time we swept them was in 2000 (and also 1999).
Not that anyone struck a nerve there …
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@ArmandoSalguero Mando – you wrote “They have to set cap space for draft, practice squad”. . How much of our 18.3M will be used draft/ps?
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Approximately $4.5 million.
Mayock comparing floyd to JT. I think he would be an ok pick at 13.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000645112/article/mayock-leonard-floyd-could-compare-to-jason-taylor
BoulderPhinfan says:
March 17, 2016 at 11:20 am (Edit)
I like your trade down idea only if we get a solid starter on the oline with that pick.
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its tricky
this is not a draft that scream great interior OL early
there is no Zach Martin this year
but some of the tackles like
Taylor Decker (OSU)
German Ifedi (TAMU)
and La’Raven Clark
project at both tackle and OG (according to CBS)
and they shoul dbe available late first and in the 2nd round
I think if you draft OL early you want a starter at OG as a rookie who can eventually play OT if necessary
We might even be able to trade out of the first round and just spent a few picks in the 2nd round on OL and RB
I think trading down works unless you have your heart set on a player like Elliot, Stanley or maybe even Conklin
it might not work so well for the defensive side of thr ball if you have your heart set on Alexander or Hargreaves or a LB like Darron Lee
Excellent explanation.
agreed
Killer DL for 2016
Branch/Wake Suh/Mitchell Nkemdiche/Phillips Williams/Fede
BoulderPhinfan says:
March 17, 2016 at 11:17 am (Edit)
a lot “if”s right there. If wake is healthy. If jordan stays off drugs. If williams plays ball. If branch is better than shelby
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Tim Knight says:
March 17, 2016 at 11:35 am (Edit)
I’m not worried about Williams, he can still play. Branch should be solid. Wake’s Achilles and Jordan’s head are concerns.
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IMO Williams is far superior to OV
and I mean its a considerable improvement
I’m a little surprised how attached some Dolfans are to OV
if you swap out Williams with OV – its a better DL
Wake needs to be healthy – I give you that
but there is no reason not to expect a full recovery from his Achilles injury
Jordan is still not in trouble and its March…..lol
He just depth in that scenario
Moore, Branch, Fede and Jordan – sure, t hat is big If territory
but its okay to play that game with multiple players in a backup role
a starting DL of Wake Suh Phillips and Williams
is pretty fearsome
My biggest concern was keeping Wake
but right now its looks like we ARE keeping Wake
You let the guys behind those 4 fight it out
make the “ifs” earn it
it depends what is there at 13 or in t he 2nd round
but I don’t think it will kill us to ealk away from the Draft without a DE to add to the mix
what do you think of floyd at 13 if he’s there?
My only concern is he’s a classic tweener. Is he a 4-3 DE or better as a 3-4 OLB?
I don’t think he is a top 15 LB
The way things are going DE may not be top priority anymore. We have 8 DEs on the roster, 9 if Jordan is back. We also have 6 DTs. We’ll likely keep 8-9 DL.
I agree. CB might be a bigger need on defense now.
Tim Knight says:
March 17, 2016 at 11:16 am
I liked Sean Smith when we drafted him.
in my best tim impersonations……………..that is old news why are we even talking about it now, now where the hell are them damn squirrels
Mike started it. LOL
Right here
I used first pick to illustrate a trade down
I don’t think trading down (twice) to get 2 2nd rounders would land us at 21
but maybe more like 28 or something
other than that I refused to trade all over the place like first pick allows
If we traded down and we had an extra 2nd or even two extra 2nds
We can accomplish adding a good CB, RB and 2 OL
we really don’t even need 2 OL
I’m just saying a we can focus on improving the running game early
we can address LB a little later (I still nabbed the pork favorites) bc traditionally you can add productive LBs later int he draft
Clark moves inside in this scenario
but he can play OT, so if there is an injury at OT
you can play Garnett at OG and Clark at OT
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 21 (WASH): Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson (B)
Round 2 Pick 11: Le’Raven Clark, OT, Texas Tech (B-)
Round 2 Pick 19 (ATL): Alex Collins, RB, Arkansas (B)
Round 2 Pick 22 (WASH): Joshua Garnett, OG, Stanford (A-)
Round 3 Pick 10: Deion Jones, OLB, LSU (B)
Round 4 Pick 9: Scooby Wright III, ILB, Arizona (C+)
Round 5 Pick 8: Ben Braunecker, TE, Harvard (B+)
Round 6 Pick 11: Aziz Shittu, DE, Stanford (A-)
Round 7 Pick 6: Clayton Fejedelem, FS, Illinois (B-)
Round 7 Pick 10: Joey Hunt, C, TCU (D)
The requisite Scooby and Garnett picks . .. lol
and Pork shall be tender
No Trade down!!!!
13: R1P13 CB VERNON HARGREAVES III, FLORIDA
42: R2P11 DE JONATHAN BULLARD, FLORIDA
73: R3P10 OLB DEION JONES, LSU
108: R4P9 G SEBASTIAN TRETOLA, ARKANSAS
148: R5P8 RB DANIEL LASCO, CALIFORNIA
187: R6P11 S KEVIN BYARD, MIDDLE TENNESSEE
228: R7P6 OT NICK RICHTER, RICHMOND
232: R7P10 TE TANNER MCEVOY, WISCONSIN
Hargreaves at 13
what if you can get Alexander or Jackson at 21
and then get a RB like Collins or Booker with that extra 2nd
You might get Jackson @20
but I’ve seen him on the rise lately
Personally I would go
Hargreaves
Lee
Lawson
Alexander
Conklin
In that order
I went back and watched more CB film!
Hargreaves is head and shoulders above the others!
IMHO of course!
If we draft a guy named Shittu
I’m getting that jersey!
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/710519405357219840
WY
Hargreaves as the consensus #1 CB early in the football season
Then Clemson went on its run and people talked about Alexander
Then Apple made a little push
Now Jackson
I do think Hargreaves and Alexander are top 2
but I can’t pick between the 2
Hargreaves is more aggressive in his tackling!
IMHO of course!
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/vernon-hargreaves-iii-vs-alabama-2015/
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/mackensie-alexander-vs-alabama-2015/
Yeah
I like the way Hargreaves comes up and tackles
Tim Knight says:
March 17, 2016 at 12:57 pm
Mike started it. LOL
lol, that fucker. he just cant keep his hands to himself.
Mike E. says:
March 17, 2016 at 10:57 am
I know they wanted to fix the O-line, but to trade Chandler Jones to do it? Why??? Can’t say that was a good move right there.
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I think the answer is simple.
Once OV signed with the Giants for the price that he did, the bar for what a DE is worth went up.
Belichick does not believe Jones is worth that kind of money in his system in the way it is currently structured. The Pats when they spend big on someone, it’s usually as a band aid to make the scheme work good but usually the big spending is on a short term deal. When Belichick did go out and pay Revis top $ on a short term basis; CB was seemingly the only glaring weakness holding the secondary back (and possibly the defense as a whole). Belichick would live with a weak #2 CB option if he had at least covered both S positions and 1 CB with lock down guys. It could at least make it easier to scheme knowing that #2 CB was going to be targeted often and not anyone else leaving Bill to disguise his LB and other cover guys to trick QB who throw in that direction. Pats were able to move from Revis and his high cost because they drafted Logan Ryan in RD 3 during 2013 and developed him AND because they were able to take an UDFA like Malcolm Butler and develop him into a starter much to their surprise.
But back to the trade itself, the Pats did get much needed help inside and also a guy who has experience. Cooper at this point is not expected to cost them much. The draft also favors the DL market and I expect the Pats to perhaps maybe move up in RD 2 and get someone like Ogbah or something if he’s available. Nassib is probably on their radar as well.
Don’t forget that Jabaal Sheard is no slouch himself and he was backing up Chandler and getting his snaps until he suffered an ankle injury mid season. He had 4 sacks in his first 5 games last season.
Happy St. Patrick’s Day!
LOL. That will happen in quite a few places tonight.
And there will be a penis involved in some instances. LOL
classy
Zeke in the first half of RD 1 only makes sense if he’s viewed as a Todd Gurley / AP type RB.