Draft picks from Day One, Two and Three
Round 1 – Laremy Tunsil T
Round 2 – Xavian Howard CB
Round 3 – Kenyan Drake RB
Round 3 – Leonte Carroo WR
Round 6 – Tiny Jakeem Grant WR
Round 6 – Jordan Lucas S
Round 7 – Brandon Doughty QB
Round 7 – Thomas Duarte TE
Now the media is baffled that we traded for our 6th back that we traded away to get Carroo to get Grant. As if that means something. One trade had nothing to do with the other. Sometimes I wonder how these guys have the jobs they do. LOL
You’re part of the problem Tim, because you read their garbage. They only care about readers, not content 😉
I just saw it looking for info. and reacting to the stupidity. LOL
son of a son of a shula says:
May 2, 2016 at 7:26 pm
Kids in my wife’s class have a common semi common name but pronounce it completely different and people are expected to know that.
I was grading Thalia’s paper and pronounced her name Tal-ya (like it should be)
But oh no what do I know it’s Ta – lee -a, whatever
a – a – ron
LMFAO!!!
Son,
That skit is the exact opposite of what I experienced in Baltimore. I am literally in tears every time I watch that.
At the end of the day all we gave the Eagles was a swap of 1st rd picks to get the same player we would have taken at #8. LOL
So the compensation for us was Maxwell and Alonso’s contracts. That’s it! Winning!!! 🙂
And just maybe, if we had stayed at 8 we wouldn’t have taken him, so there’s that too 😛
He was #2 on our board. Why would we pass on him at #8?
Draft pick math:
Soooo, I was reading through the comments, trying to find out if we did well in the draft. Based on what I’m reading, I’m not even sure if you guys watched the same thing. Some loved it, some hated it. Why am I surprised with this? Guess I’m going to have to wait for the season and find out for myself. lol
Listen to your old pal son, we did good.
We got a 5’6″ guy who can use Suh’s shoe as a bath tub.
Of course the ones that loved it can see the new vision of the team, and those that didn’t are more worried about losing next yrs picks, than what will be on the field this yr 😉
I’m fabulous if anyone was asking.
LOL
son,
I really think we need 3 solid tackles on the roster. Injuries to our starting tackles have killed us the last couple of years. Unless the deal blows us away I think we should keep albert.
I tend to agree but how often do we see teams make a move when they have a windfall, who knows what they’re thinking but I agree I would put a very high value on any trade.
No trades, just play it like it was dealt, a stacked OL.
can imagine the phone call between D and his friends about what game to go to
friend: really want to go to that steelers game D, what do you think
friend: puts down phone, cooks dinner, gets the kids in bed, takes out garbage, does the dishes, washers the car, helps the wife with the laundry, gets a good 45 minute reward from the wife for helping with the laundry and gets back to the phone to just hear D ‘so that is why i think the steeler game works for me too.
LOL
It might be true, I could see it happening.
has anyone seen sb7 i wonder how he is doing
Who 😉
Here’s our draft when you really look at it as a whole. The trade we made with the Eagles was not FA, it was a trade using a draft swap in the 1st rd and nothing more. Those two players do not count as FA signings.
CB Maxwell
LB Alonso
1. OL Tunsil
2. CB Howard
3a. RB Drake
3b. WR Carroo
6a. WR Grant
6b. CB/S Lucas
7a. QB Doughty
7b. TE/H-back Duarte
So yeah we did add defense. 🙂
There are 8 “o”s in Carooooooooo
I’m fabulous if anyone was asking!
Did we miss wishing you a happy birthday?
If I’m GM no less than a 1st rd pick for Albert in 2017 and I’m also starting off asking for an additional 3rd or 4th as well. I’m also not doing the shopping. Let them call me and make an offer.
Tim Knight says:
May 2, 2016 at 8:01 pm
Here’s our draft when you really look at it as a whole. The trade we made with the Eagles was not FA, it was a trade using a draft swap in the 1st rd and nothing more. Those two players do not count as FA signings.
or another words. here are the rules i made up as to why i think the draft was successful and we did add defense in the draft. and i am fine with it tim, but the bottom line it is just you making up rules to the draft.
None of those players would have been acquired without 2016 draft maneuvers, it was all draft compensation.
Why are you trying to paint me into that corner again? Why can’t we look at it for what it is instead of trying to search for why it sucked or may not be that? I’ve been saying look at the draft as a whole and not how we got there for weeks and now that it played out pretty well, we need to conjure up the details in as many ways as possible to counter it? LOL
It’s not my rules, it’s reality, it’s what happened. 🙂
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WTF!
sick asshole
Didn’t need to read that. Ugh!
I’d like to see us take a flyer on MLB Curtis Lofton.
Tim, yes, I’ve seen this the moment the draft ended on sat.
At that point up until the 7th round it was being called a 50/50 split between defense & offense.
CB Maxwell
LB Alonso
1. OL Tunsil
2. CB Howard
3a. RB Drake
3b. WR Carroo
6a. WR Grant
6b. CB/S Lucas
7a. QB Doughty
7b. TE/H-back Duarte
tim
it is your rules. the draft is the draft but you want to add some trades to bolster your point. i am not saying one thing about if the draft was good or bad, i was just commenting on you doing what so many others here do and add things to bolster your point. last year some added the suh signing to the draft to justify their point. i am not painting you into any corner other then just adding what you deem fit to bolster your point.
How did we acquire Maxwell and Alonso? Once you answer that all your other points on the subject dissipate like invisible ink. LOL
The Flying Pig says:
May 2, 2016 at 8:30 pm
There are 8 “o”s in Carooooooooo
Reply
That may be, but I know there are tow r’s
why are you towing your “r”s
Tim Knight says:
May 2, 2016 at 8:45 pm
How did we acquire Maxwell and Alonso? Once you answer that all your other points on the subject dissipate like invisible ink. LOL
so based on your rules, that means when you evaluate the 2017 draft you have to look at the 2016 draft cause they gave up picks to get players. just admit it, you can go on and on and on with ‘oh i will include this to bolster my opinion’ i am not saying there is anything wrong with it but it is what you are doing. stop being so sensitive
Overall, I’m content with the picks. How we got them is done and over, I guess. I think we may end up with some guys Gase feels can make plays on offense. I’m really eager to see what this offense looks like by the middle of the season. I think folks are forgetting that it’s gonna take everyone awhile to adjust and start playing fast and well, I would think. I’m not gonna get too worried if our offense kinda sputters early on as long as they are showing progress and working hard. 6-8 games in, I’d hope to see them running a little smoother.
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I think we have a pretty veteran defense, and I expect them to step up this year and carry the team a little if necessary. I know we still have a lot of young players too, but we have Wake, Suh, Williams, Jones, Maxwell, Misi, Mitchell, as of now….we have plenty of high end vets who should be setting the tone and getting shit done. Alonzo has to come in and play well because our lbers were a liability last year. Jenkins needs to play better. Misi is what he is. I don’t think anyone can know what our backend is going to do this year. Whomever plays…we need to improve from last year.
FA: DE Williams, DE Branch, DE Laing (CFL), S Abdul-Quddus, DT Chris Jones, OL Bushrod, OL Urbik, OT Young, QB Dysert, RB Pead, RB DT3.
We didn’t go bonkers in FA this year but we just did that last year with Suh and then drafting Phillips at DT in the 2nd rd is also a big investment. Sometimes I feel we act like we have no defenders to even start with. LOL
Ifoooooooo (I used 8, I hope that’s right)
Alonzo & Maxwell are draft compensation for a trade of draft picks. That are part of the draft. They were not part of free agency and we’re part of the plan to acquire experienced tallant without losing compensatory picks next year. They are most certainly part of the draft.
Tallant?
It’s French for talent. LOL
This is just funny. LOL
steveccnv says:
May 2, 2016 at 7:49 pm
Of course the ones that loved it can see the new vision of the team, and those that didn’t are more worried about losing next yrs picks, than what will be on the field this yr😉
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For me, steve, it’s more about what the team looks like 3 years from now…not next year’s picks or this year’s team. I would like for us to be building the franchise…not just one year’s team. Just my thoughts when I saw your comment. There are lots of ways to get it done though!
Between Hickey’s 2 previous drafts and this one we are heading in a much better direction than we have since Shula was here and up until JJ left
‘They are most certainly part of the draft.’
can you tell me what page that is in on the book of facts of how to judge the draft, or once again that is just an opinion of this is how i want to judge the draft and by doing this it works in my favor.
Second-round LB Deion Jones will be the Falcons’ middle linebacker this season.
Jones is a bit undersized at 6’1/222, but the Falcons want to get faster on defense. Jones will supply it after he blazed a 4.38 forty at LSU’s Pro Day. Incumbent MLB Paul Worrilow will either be a sub-package player or lose his job altogether.
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I’m anxious to see how Deion Jones does @ MLB
Guess the days of a Levon Kirkland are gone
Ragland
yeah, I’d have to go with Tim on this one. We acquired Maxwell and Alonso by swapping our picks in the first. It’s pretty much the same as if it was done during the draft but it was done earlier.
LOL, we have been the last week or so.
gdp
Whenever you seem bored, I’m always of a mind to talk QBs….just to be helpful. Lol
I’ll start. I really like the Doughty pick and think this guy is going to make the other qb’s we have behind RT expendable and the reason why I say that is because he’s another scheme fit. This offense in the passing game is going to be about short, controlled passing game with guys running short routes to keep the ball moving and then throwing pushing up the field when the opportunity presents itself. Where Doughty is concerned, that’s all he did in college and he was very successful doing it. The ball comes out of his hand very quickly, he makes decisions very fast and he puts the ball in a spot where it needs to be for his receivers to get yac. He’s not going to “rip” it like other qb’s will but what you see with him is a guy who makes quick decisions and can get the ball out fast. You see a guy who’s got really good pocket awareness and will move around in the pocket to buy time and he’s a guy who is always looking downfield even when he’s under pressure. He’ll hang in there to the very end even though he knows he’s going to take a shot. You can see that he was coached by Dan Marino in the way he plays the game. So, I’d say Moore, Dysert and Thomas won’t make it to the season.
I’m not saying he’s going to replace Tannehill but I am saying that if you look at the way we approached the draft on the offensive side you can get a pretty good idea of what we’re going to try and accomplish and you can see why Doughty was picked.
I agree, except Moore will be the backup, I can guarantee that. His cap is $1.4M and his dead money is $1.75M.
we just got a new offensive minded coach so we drafted offensive players. If we had hired rex ryan this draft would have looked different.
He would have made Mario an OLB again. LOL
professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
May 2, 2016 at 9:07 pm
yeah, I’d have to go with Tim on this one.
and i rest my point. from the guy who will blame the qb for taking sacks cause it fits his point but wont give him credit when he escapes sacks cause it doesnt fit his point.
there is really nothing wrong with it guys, just admit ‘yeah that is how i look at it cause it fits my point better’. i am not saying tim is wrong on the draft just saying he is adding things to make his point more valid.
So what you’re saying is if Saturn’s rings flew away like your tent did, it really didn’t happen, it was just my view to make it a better flying away of the rings and tent? LOL
it’s not about making the point more valid. If we got to draft day and we made the same trade we would all say we received Alonso and Maxwell as part of draft compensation for Philly moving up just as any players we would have acquired in the draft would be part of it if we received picks from Philly instead of players. draft compensation doesn’t need to be about players we drafted with picks we received.
Maybe our fortunes have changed with Tunsil falling to us. Can I think that for awhile until it all comes crashing down? LOL
lou,
then like i said there is no way to evaluate next years draft without looking at how some of the players this year do, cause we traded those pics for those players.
again the point it just goes on and on and on how one wants to say how things should be viewed.
tim
i think you bring up Saturn and my tent again the only thing you need to be concerned about where my tent lands is Uranus
All that really matters is how Maxwell and Kiko perform. Tunsil fell in our lap under unprecedented events. That was pure luck…not a plan by this FO when they made that trade. The trade they made…was giving up 5 spots in the top of the first…in any other draft we miss out on some of the players that people around here talked about the most. We gave up the chance to pick Conklin, Apple, Floyd, Hargreaves, Rankins….all players some folks here wanted. We got lucky….if Tunsil pans out. It happens. Take it and move on, but Kiko and Maxwell need to be significant players for us to make that a worthwhile trade.
it was a bet that some one would fall
Not that everyone they might want would be there
If Tunsil didn’t slide Conklin would have
Plus we could have had Jack or Ragland who ended up going in the 2nd
We could have had Lee or Lawson who went later that round too
The gamble wasn’t that Tunsil would fall
It was that we were able to get a good player at 13 just as we would have at 8
I’m sure they knew guys they liked would be gone
But that was not the risk
The risk was that you were jumping out of the top 10 and jumping down a tier in terms of prospects
And the gamble paid off big time
One of the top prospects fell
It wasn’t just luck
Some one would have been there at 13
Luck was that it was Tunsil
If Tunsil didn’t have the video he goes top ten and then one of the other prospects falls to us. Maybe we get Conklin instead or maybe we had Lawson as the next player on our board. Maybe we wanted Jackson. We’ll never know.
You can’t have your cake and eat it too Randy. You can’t use Conklin for your argument, is you’re going to say we got lucky with Tunsil. If Tunsil didn’t fall into our lap Conklin would’ve been available.
It doesn’t matter if Alonso and Maxwell work out, the trade was a success, even without getting Tunsil. There’s risk with every trade, by making this trade, we didn’t have to use FA that’s mega expensive, and would’ve cost us our comp picks, and we got guys that fit the scheme. We got 2 starters, what more can you ask for?
Why are you guys so negative about every little thing the FO tries to do? None of you downers have yet to answer my question about whether they’d take everything we’ve done before the draft or stay status quo.
great. now I have to find me some cake.
Too bad about Moore
I thought he had potential
Too bad about your 5 hour late breaking news
Slow piggy today
Even Coach Campbell said Moore is an “acquired taste.” Meaning he is a big-time jerk.
‘The Miami Dolphins waived running back Jahwan Edwards, wide receiver Christion Jones’
so by waiving these guys do we consider that a good move or bad move as part of the draft. i mean they were only waived cause of the players drafted. ooohhhhh where does it end in evaluating the draft
You forgot demontre Moore
He was depth at de but an alleged lockeroom headache
Lou,
I was just ribbing gdp about talking QBs. I hate talking about those little pampered ballerinas. Lol
yes, but you know I couldn’t pass up an opportunity like that
piggy,
i didnt forget moore. he just didnt fit my point so i left him out……..you know kind of to make my point
Piggy,
I agree with that, but they still slid back and took themselves out of contention for some premium talent. They also gave up better trade position in a trade-happy draft. Again, it’s all in how you value draft picks. They took a calculated risk, and they ended up face-first in a pile of roses as far as the player taken. We’ll see how the other end of it pans out. Hopefully Maxwell and Kiko come in and really perform well for us.
Lou
You did watch the senior bowl right!
Doughty is not going to replace Tanny this year!
Maybe next or the year after?
He absolutely won’t replace Moore this yr either. (see my post above showing the dead money vs cap).
‘Again, it’s all in how you value draft picks.’
randy,
how dare you say that. you are crazy thinking like that. it is only how one views the draft and that person is right and everyone else is wrong in how the value the draft.
silly randy just stick to evaluating qb’s
In the last few years RB and even LB have become devalued. The game is played beyond their mark most of the time. On defense it’s pass rush first and don’t embarrass yourself against the run. Then cover and tackle some will ya! If we’re going to play base 25% of the time, nickel 50% and dime 25% of the time, why is RB and LB such a thing? Only 2-3 combined will be on the field 75% of the time.
3 WRs and 1 TE/H-back is still the primary formation. What happens with 4 wide with any combo of personnel and a one back set? Empty backfield wide 5? This is where quick space needs to happen and release within 3 seconds.
Okay, settle down. I’m getting too excited about our potential but I will not make any grand predictions. Wait and see. 🙂
Gase wants to score early and often. Not that his vision is visionary, but I don’t think a stagnant offense will sit well with him. LOL
Randy
steve
Sorry, I hadn’t seen you ask. No, I would not have taken this draft before it started. While I see what they tried to do, it is not what I would have done. But, all that really matters now is whether or not these guys can perform.
LOL, I asked about what was done before the draft, would you take it or stay status quo with last yrs team?
Is that old mob blog still up? My fave list link and toolbar button for it turns up dead.
Dead to the world!
Wyoming,
Do I really need to go into how very little I care about how any player looked on the first day of practice? Lol
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I was always “cautiously optimistic” about him.
Randy
just passing on information!
Don’t know if it’s dog shit or shoe shine yet!
we’ll see how it smells this season?
Can we post
wyoming,
I gotcha, bud. I hope he balls out. He is a good ball player if healthy.
Some will just take whatever is written out there and run with it, if it backs their opinion. The Vikings trade 160 for them 220 for us, from the draft value chart.
Randy, no doubt Tunsil fell into our lap. Grier said that he was #2 on our board and they didn’t expect him to fall like that, I think Ramsey was #1. What happened next I would imagine is they all looked at each other and said geez,.. Tunsil is there at #13. LOL
Maybe our fortunes have changed. 🙂
steve
Oh, well, that is all yet to be determined. I’m hopeful all the moves work out. I can’t say they have yet.
Tim,
I agree! If our OL can miraculously become a real strength for this team, that will be huge in the development of this offense. A solid, reliable OL can give everyone else the time they need to get up to speed.
In hindsight are any Dolphins fans willing to admit our trade with the Eagles turned out to be a coup at this time? 3 Starters just to take on a couple of contracts and then have a top 3 prospect fall to us regardless of the swap? LOL
I guess we can’t call it a Unicorn intervention, but it’s close. LOL
Piggy, & Randy, etc.
Myles Jack was our pick @ #13 until they looked up & Tunsil was barreling right for them.
He was the more sure thing & healthy.
I don’t think we weren’t taking Jack at #13, maybe Lawson, Jackson or Lee.
I don’t think it was either. I thinking we were THINKING someone like Conklin, Apple or Lawson was going to be there for us. And like Charlie Casserly said, “this is why you do your homework on every single player because you never know what will happen on draft day.
Randy says:
May 2, 2016 at 10:03 pm
Tim,
I agree! If our OL can miraculously become a real strength for this team, that will be huge in the development of this offense.
huh??????????????? arent you the one who has been saying forever the oline isnt that bad? that the qb is to blame for some of how bad the oline looks. and now it is ‘miraculously’ if they can be a real strength
ffr
Lol. I worded it that way just for you. You’re so predictable. The NLCs must need to be rotated.
gdp
There would have been all sorts of hel breaking loose on the board if they’d taken Jack…another player with significant injury flags….talented or not. Lol
Yup, good thing Tunsil was there.
Randy says:
May 2, 2016 at 10:11 pm
ffr
Lol. I worded it that way just for you. You’re so predictable. The NLCs must need to be rotated.
yep sure you did. oh you got me, you are just sssooooooo smart, well if you worded something just for me you cant be that smart. but ok i will play along……gosh darn it randy, you just fooled silly ole me, shucks all, good golly randy sure did fool lil ole me.
ffr,
Funny, but that is just how I “hear” you when you post. Lol
randy
and i know you just fooled lil silly stupid me but i was wondering if you noticed the ??? marks in my post. i know i am not that bright and all but those mean a question. i wasnt making fun of you are anything i was asking you a question as to what you meant. but then again i am sooooo silly and probably need to go milk a nlc or something that there would be no way you would get me asking you a question and all.
Randy says:
May 2, 2016 at 10:20 pm
ffr,
Funny, but that is just how I “hear” you when you post. Lol
yeah i know, i figured that would be the only way you could understand what i post.
ffr
What ?’s??
PFF Draft @PFF_College · Apr 21
Alabama RB Kenyan Drake forced one missed tackle for every 2.6 touches on offense, the best rate in this RB class (min. 100 touches)
Randy says:
May 2, 2016 at 10:25 pm
ffr
What ?’s??
if used correctly one really kinky sex toy that helps bind and pleasure a woman at the same time.
So, here’s how the trade to get Howard went down. Baltimore held the #36 which it traded to Jacksonville in exchange for the #38 and a fifth. Jacksonville used that pick to take Jack. Baltimore then traded the #38 it acquired from Jacksonville in their trade to Miami so we could take Howard. So, the idea that we traded up to try to get a player before the teams ahead of us picked is incorrect.
ffr
And don’t think I haven’t noticed how you are basically using the Reply button by posting the post you’re replying to, ya sneaky little redneck. You are no longer welcome in the Reply Haters Club. We only kept you around for the naked cheerleaders anyway.
Randy says:
May 2, 2016 at 10:39 pm
ffr
And don’t think I haven’t noticed how you are basically using the Reply button by posting the post you’re replying to, ya sneaky little redneck.
i dont have to all the time. i just have to for you otherwise you would never be able to keep up with the conversation. but if you are think you are in your big boy pants now i will stop and hope you can keep up with the conversation
lou
Grier said they did it because they expected a run on CBs. Whether it was because the teams in front of us may have taken them or teams were trying to trade up to get them, he didn’t really elaborate clearly.
ffr,
As long as I move your sister’s head to the side so I can actually see what’s on my screen, I’m okay.
and with that i am out. i dont want randy to fool me again or kick me out of another club. 🙂
night all.
Randy says:
May 2, 2016 at 10:46 pm
ffr,
As long as I move your sister’s head to the side so I can actually see what’s on my screen, I’m okay.
and that is why she charges you a whole nickle. you make her head go side to side. just let her head go up and down and then it is only 2 cents
come on randy you are gonna have to do a lot better then insulting my sister to win at this.
Lou, who was #1 on our board? We know Tunsil was #2, Grier said it.
Carson Wentz. LOL!!!
After watching GOT tonight, I got my wife to give me a Carroooooooo . . . She wouldn’t do it, but she did it after GOT. Woo hoo! I told her instead of a conch, I’m going to bring a shofar, and I’ll blow it every time Carroo makes a catch. For those of you who have no idea what a shofar is, this is what the one I have looks like.
Weird thing happened. I watched last week’s episode followed by this week’s episode only to have it be different 2 hours later. I don’t want to be a spoiler here but WTF?!!!!
I don’t know what you mean by different. E-mail me.
ffr
I’m out too. I am old…no stamina anymore.
For the guys out west…I’m surprised no one signed UDFA Mitch Matthews from BYU. 6’6 215 blazing fast WR/TE who really turned heads in Utah
If he was from Germany, he would have been drafted. lol
Mike, shofar as I know, you’re gonna have to feed us all every time you blow that thing?
How’s that GDP? It’s a conch substitute. Like the Viking horn whenever they get a 1st down
Alright – Sleepy time . . . Goodnight all!
Nite bro
Tim…I;m suing you for your claim of Maxwell & Alonso not being a F/A trade. I pointed out this on draft day.Mike was being his usual negative self and he wouldn’t have it either. I made the point over and over that this was an outstanding draft for the Phins. THIS FACT ELUDES MOST HERE. We got the players we wanted to fit our scheme. Surely that is the whole point of picking players.
Then you get the blokes who bitch about using picks to move around, my answer to them is who fucking cares. We got the players we wanted. Then there are those who bitch about not covering all of our needs. I say what needs(holes) we could already field a team that could win games. We have added serious upgrades,how can that be a bad thing?
Finally, I got laughed at for suggesting that PK in the 3rd, well I had the last laugh, he was taken in the 2ND and the Bucs GAVEUP 2 PICKS to move up to get him. Are they getting hammered for doing that?
I had to leave this board before I seriously lost it, that how bad all the negativity was. Hell evenn the midget WR has grown on me after watching his highlight film and reading the reviews.
My apologies, I just read my post and decided it reeks of an OD rant for that I’m really upset with myself.
Looking back on the mock I did for the Phins I got two correct; just not the round. I picked Carroo in the 4th and Grant in the 7th. https://professorlousmiamidolphinsblog.org/2016/04/25/professor-lous-2016-miami-dolphins-mock-draft/
Walter Football actually had us taking Drake, Duarte and Doughty. Not bad. Most mocks are off the charts.