What’s up with our defense?

Vance Joseph

“Both win,” Joseph told me. “And I’ve been a 3-4 guy most of my career. But when you come to a place like this and see the defensive personnel you’ve got, and, in my opinion, it’s not broken, you can’t all of a sudden go to 34 where you have to re-draft to a defense. That takes time. That takes too much time.

“And I don’t want to be a guy who as a coordinator, I’m a 34 guy with 43 personnel driven team. I’m not going to say, ‘Well, let’s change it,’ and set us back two or three years. That’s not smart in my opinion. That’s not coordinating. If this team had 34 personnel, we’d be a 34 defense. I can do both. For me, it’s not a big deal to be a 34 or 43 defense, it’s just numbers. It would be a shame to come to a place that’s close to being good on defense and then flip it, then you’re three years away again. I didn’t want to do that.”

Then there’s this  from VJ

“Absolutely,” he said. “Because in spurts last year, you could see they put up good stats against good people. But in spurts they also didn’t look very good. But it wasn’t because of effort or I wouldn’t say even scheme. I don’t know what it was. You watch the film and they did some really good things last year. A couple of games it got out of whack. But between Cam and those guys, you have good, solid NFL players here. So we’re capable of playing good defense. And I expect we’ll play good defense.”

OK, so I’m going to get the 800 LB gorilla in the room out of the way right now, because you know my feelings on one Mr. Suh, but heading into free agency and the draft, besides having your defensive centerpiece who happens to be a 4-3 DT, what else about our defense mandated that we’re a 4-3 defense?  I’ll tell you, nothing.  We began to fill in our roster before the draft with a bunch of 4-3 DE’s, adding to what we already had in Cam Wake, who we obviously believe is going to be a force with the contract extension.

NFL: Miami Dolphins at Tennessee Titans

Dolphins building blocks DT Ndamukong Suh and DE Cam Wake

 

Let’s look at the timeline . . .

We cut DE Quinton Coples 2/16.  Not that Coples is a franchise player, but at 6’5″ 290, ideal for playing 3-4 DE.  Coples, still on his rookie contract was due $1.75M this season, and was a $3M cap hit. We signed on 3/8,  DE Mario Williams, who last year was miscast as an OLB in the 3-4 defense, and is better suited as a 4-3 DE. We then on 3/9 make the trade for CB Byron Maxwell, and LB Kiko Alonso, for the price of moving back just 5 spots in the 1st RD, from #8 to #13.  A very good trade if the 2 aforementioned players play well and start for the Dolphins this season.  VJ got his big CB, but Alonso is clearly a 4-3 MLB or OLB, not a 3-4.  The reason I point this out, is because VJ determined what kind of personnel we acquired, so in essence, him saying we had 4-3 personnel was really saying Suh is a 4-3 DT, and we’re going to build around that.  I’m not going to hide my feelings on that, you know where I stand, and hopefully, it works out.

After the trade for Maxwell and Alonso, we continued to sign 4-3 DE’s, starting on 3/17 with DE Andre Branch (6’5″ 265).  We then re-signed LB Spencer Paysinger, who is a special teams and depth player. On 4/5, we signed the just waived by the Browns CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomu (5’9″ 195).  On 4/18, we signed DT Chris Jones (6’1″ 295), waived by the New England Patriots.  Ekpre-Olomu not the prototypical CB VJ likes, but Chris Jones, fits the smaller, quicker, penetrating type of 4-3 DT he prefers.

Then came the draft, and despite the fact many of us, not of all of us expected some help for the defense, the only major defensive pick was 2nd RD CB Xavien Howard (6’0″ 201).  In the 6th RD, we picked up hybrid (CB/S) Jordan Lucas (6’0″ 201), again, prototypical size for what VJ is looking for, bigger cornerbacks.  The rest of the draft, 6 picks in total, went towards the offense.  I’ll talk about that next week, but for now, let’s stay focused on the defense.

So, pre-draft free agency came and went, and the actual draft is over too, so the only thing left now is post-draft free agency, where any player signed does NOT count against next years compensatory pick entitlement. It appears that our first target is DE Jason Jones (6’5″ 272).  Once again, adding veterans to our D-line.  We will not be relying on younger players in our d-line rotation, that much is clear.  On the back end of the defense, that’s a different story, but it’s clear our D-line rotation will be veteran, sprinkled in with some youth.  There is no official depth chart right now, but this is how I see it.

Base 4-3 defense

RE – Andre Branch 6’5″ 265

DT – Earl Mitchell 6’3″ 310

DT – Ndamukong Suh 6’4″ 320

LE – Mario Williams 6’6″ 292

WLB – Jelani Jenkins 6’0″ 243

MLB  – Kiko Alonso 6’3″ 238

SLB – Koa Misi  6’3″ 255

LCB – Byron Maxwell 6’1″ 207

RCB – Xavien Howard 6’0″ 201

RS – Reshad Jones 6’1″ 218

LS  – Isa Abdul-Quddus 6’1″ 201

Nickel Defense

RE – Mario Williams

DT – Jordan Phillips/Chris Jones

DT – Ndamukong Suh

LE –  Cam Wake

LB – Jelani Jenkins

LB – Kiko Alonso

LCB – Byron Maxwell

RCB – Xavien Howard

NB – Bobby McCain

S – Reshad Jones

S – Isa Abdul-Quddus

I could see Chris Jones in the nickel package as a DT, but for now, I’m going to give the edge to Phillips.  I could also see Neville Hewitt being a nickel LB, so that’s possible too.

I know it sounds like I don’t approve of the way we went about creating our defense, mostly because we built it around a DT who will earn over $100M when his contract is finished.  While I didn’t agree with the move, he’s here, and he’s one of the best players in the NFL, but I think he can be better than he was for us last season, and I think he’ll need to be if we’re going to contend for the playoffs.  As I mentioned, we have a strong veteran presence on our defense, but there is a young man who none of us are counting on, but if he comes in with the right attitude, continues to work hard, and then the kicker, actually gets reinstated by Goodell and the NFL, Dion Jordan be a factor for us.  We all hope that’s the case

As far as the linebackers and secondary, it’s going to be very interesting to see if the gambles paid off with the trade for Maxwell and the draft choice of Xavien Howard, or possibly the emergence of Tony Lippett.  Will Isa be the safety we’ve been looking for to complement Reshad Jones?  Was Kiko Alonso the missing cog that takes our LB corps to a higher level?  If the answers to both of those questions is yes, the Dolphins should be an exciting team to watch this year, especially with what we’ve done with the offense.  Stay tuned next week when I discuss the offense.

 

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1,242 Responses to What’s up with our defense?

  1. Mike E. says:

    OD

    Yes, I am, and yes it is. The Mets are struggling right now, but the real surprise is the Phillies. They’re playing very solid baseball.

  2. Ken says:

    OD:
    I am a Yankee fan so no joy for me this baseball season

  3. jetsssuck says:

    Oh, I forgot with all the talk today about Laremy Tinsil and his character our luck must be turning since 12 other teams passed on the best available player. What are the odds of teams choosing position of need vs. Best Available player….. 12 times we must be very lucky…

    • Tim Knight says:

      Could toy imagine 24 times, that would be crazy? LOL

      • jetsssuck says:

        plus he was 13th player taken. All those stars must have aligned just right in the universe that night. Truly amazing after all the bad luck this franchise has had concerning the OL the last 10 years. It’s almost a miracle.

  4. wyoming85 says:

    Stanger I’m glad you responded to GDP!

    If not he would have posted that shit all night! 😉

    • stangerx says:

      GDP is quality as it comes. Vid was interesting too. But we all have our opinions on this or that for the team. Why else would we talk about it?

  5. finfanrob says:

    D says:
    May 20, 2016 at 6:05 pm

    Should have been, they were baby squirrel the friggin murderer!

    lmao that is funny

  6. finfanrob says:

    olddolphan says:
    May 20, 2016 at 7:38 pm

    YOUNG STANGER:Saw your comments on pizza up the page. In north Tampa, the best Pizza I’ve had is BEST NY PIZZA.

    OD,

    i have been there twice and left cause the service was so bad. never even tried the pizza. i always hear about it but if i cant get served i wouldnt know. have you ever tried our neighborhood joint Capri’s. right at the publx at lutz lake fern. it is pretty good, just like the oriental (that is for stanger) joint rice and roll. best asian food in town IMO

    • stangerx says:

      ffr — sounds like you and OD live near each other. You guys should head down to a game together some time.

  7. finfanrob says:

    stanger

    within about a three minute drive. but i dont know if i can handle a four hour drive with him bitching about ross and telling me his plagiarized stories 🙂

    now i would really enjoy an away game and meeting him at beef’s for some wings and beer, i will even buy for a good time with him.

  8. finfanrob says:

    i think my suggestion for the next guest author is wyoming. it wont have one word in the article but damn we all would love the pics.

  9. wyoming85 says:

    Pure class!

  10. wyoming85 says:

  11. jetsssuck says:

    Tim Knight says:
    May 20, 2016 at 7:57 pm
    Could toy imagine 24 times, that would be crazy? LOL
    —————————————————–
    boy, you would lose money being a oddsmaker. shouldn’t it be .5x.5x.5x.5 (for a total of 12 times)

    • jetsssuck says:

      1 in 4096 or .00024414 chance. When you get a job doing odds for a bookie please let me know

      • herdfan says:

        Would that be one of those $8 an hour and live comfortably in Fl kind of jobs?

      • jetsssuck says:

        i never said comfortably and I said it’s possible with two working adults. Doesn’t mean they are going to live middle class but they can make choices to better themselves. Do the math.

  12. manitobafinfan says:

    Hello All : Quick pop in to throw a damper on things, sorry.. Thank you all for your warm thoughts and prayers for my Mother.. She passed on Wednesday night after a two day bedside visit… as most can imagine, we have been uber busy with the arrangements and various Red tape with Government agencies, as she was in custody of the Provincial Public Trustee (kind of a Ward of the State) due to a Brother fleecing her funds prior to her being admitted to a Nursing Home with Dementia.. Also seems, that in regards to Family plots , they cannot just be assumed to passed on without being articulated in a Will.. so i now have to get authority from all cousins, and brothers in writing, complete with Photo ID, and have this legally notarized so i can present to Cemetery , so they can okay her being added to Family Plot with her Husband and his Parents.. Lesson learned …

    Again , thank you all for kind wishes and Prayers.. on a happier note this MAY have cleared up a Fest date for the two of us..

  13. The Flying Pig says:

    Sorry to hear about you loss Toba
    It’s tough to deal with
    Stay strong buddy

  14. Rockphin says:

    See I guess the bottom line is I don’t care YAY we got one of the best players at their position in the draft yeah. The NFL’s full of Thugs. I don’t care they are not there to teach me morality they are there to beat the f*** out of the other team on Sunday like Gladiators in Rome so I can forget my problems for 3 hours on a Sunday

  15. stangerx says:

    Ahh Jeez Toba……take time to remember and rest for yourself. Just know that she knew she had a good son. What counts the most.

  16. The Flying Pig says:

    Did you guys read this

    It made me laugh

    If teams are alleging Tunsil has an ankle problem bc they are embarrassed they passed him I just laugh

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/05/19/dolphins-borderline-angry-over-report-of-issue-with-laremy-tunsils-ankle/?cid=yahoo

  17. Rockphin says:

    Toba I’m so sorry you have to be going through this right now. My condolences.

  18. Ken says:

    Manitoba:
    My prayers and sympathies to you and your family. I went through this not to long ago myself so I empathize. No words I can say will make it any better, only time does that. Hang in there bro.

  19. Mike E. says:

    Toba – My condolences on the loss of your mom. Prayers to you and the family.

  20. manitobafinfan says:

    Thanks Mike and Ken. It’s appreciated

  21. manitobafinfan says:

    Now fir Gods sake get back to football.

    • Ken says:

      It’s so hard to talk football now. The draft is over. No camps, no trades, no real FA action for at least another month. This is the real football doldrums.

      • manitobafinfan says:

        This is true. Another two months before the Real action starts. I hope we come out strong on both Sides

  22. Mike E. says:

    We could talk about how Tunsil took money from puppies . . . lol

  23. Ken says:

    Alright FUers, its been a long week and I need my beauty rest. I am out. Peace.

  24. Mike E. says:

    Toba

    Nothing really. jetssuck was very zealous in an effort to besmirch our young LT, because of some of things he did in college. It’s all good. He has the right to feel that way. Me, I’m thrilled he’s on our team, and I’ll judge him for what he does from now on, not the mistakes he made in the past.

  25. Mike E. says:

    Night Ken

  26. Mike E. says:

    LOL Doggie, hopefully not any family or friends of yours.

  27. manitobafinfan says:

    What up Doggie

  28. Phindog says:

    Toba.
    Annette was really sad to hear the news and her thoughts are with you and Darlene. We here for you brother.

  29. Mike E. says:

    I’m out as well, already into OT at work, and working early tomorrow. Peace fellas.

    Toba – Stay strong brother, you’ll get through it.

    • manitobafinfan says:

      Thanx Mike. We both beleive she is in a better place. Hope to see you in October

      • Mike E. says:

        Absolutely Toba, that’s the right way to think about it, because it’s true. Yeah man, looking forward to meeting you! G’nite

    • olddolphan says:

      MANITOBA; SO SORRY to read the news. We’ll all be here for you, my Canadian brother! Your beloved mom obviously did a great job raising you! Peace to you and your family.

  30. Tim Knight says:

    Toba, so sorry to hear about the loss of your Mom. I wish you and your family all the best.

    As for football, OTAs will be May 24-26, May 31-June 2, and June 6-9. The mandatory minicamp will end the offseason program June 14-16.

  31. stangerx says:

    I liked Clay as a player and a person, but is he really worth what the Bill’s are putting into him?

    This from ESPN’s Mike Rodak.

    “The Bills doubled down on Clay this spring when they restructured his five-year deal to push $7.5 million of his $24.5 million in guaranteed money into future years, increasing his salary-cap hits to a hard-to-dodge $9 million from 2017 through 2019.

    “Clay owns the fourth-largest cap hits on the Bills in 2017 and 2018, and his contract is currently the seventh-richest among NFL tight ends, averaging $7.6 million per season. That means Clay’s usage and production should be close to that of the top tier of tight ends in the NFL. But is it?”

    • Mike E. says:

      If he’s healthy, and plays like he can, yes, but that hardly ever seems to happen.

      • stangerx says:

        But a top ten TE? He can’t even play traditional with blocking, or at least not real well. Oddly enough though….he’d add an interesting option to our O now as it seems to be setting up. Just not at $9 million. That’s when you are expecting Gronk Jr.

  32. Mike E. says:

    I hope he can be a pass rushing threat in obvious passing situations for us.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000664214/article/wake-exceeding-expectations-after-achilles-tear

  33. BoulderPhinfan says:

    finally this week with OTAs starting we’re gonna have some football news.

  34. Mike E. says:

    I think Duarte can be similar to what Clay was for us. He’s an accomplished receiver with good hands, and decent speed. He won’t be blocker for us, at least not right away, if ever. I do like his potential as a receiver, especially as the 2nd TE.

  35. Mike E. says:

    jetssuck

    Not surprising. I figured Wake was done, but he’s a special guy athletically, in tip top shape, so I guess we can’t count him out quite yet.

  36. wyoming85 says:

  37. Tim Knight says:

    Grimes came back from the Achilles albeit he was 28-29 but he’s a corner and he looked fine.

  38. jetsssuck says:

    They mentioned the calf and all the other muscles surrounding the Achilles as possible injuries more likely. Basketball players haven’t feared well recovering from this injury but then again they are always running. Quick burst is what cam is about. Hopefully, he won’t torque the wrong mucsles wrongly and he retrains the muscles correctly.

  39. getterdone says:

    Condolences & continued prayers for Toba & wife.
    I love your positive perspective of being in a much better place..AMEN!

  40. stangerx says:

    Is that ever tough…..and he won. Call me skeptical, but doping? Nine ain’t old for a horse.
    —————————–

    “Homeboykris rallied to win the day’s first race by a half-length on a rainy Saturday at Pimlico. After having his picture taken in the winner’s circle, he collapsed and died on his walk back to the barn. Track officials believe the 9-year-old gelding suffered cardiovascular collapse.”

  41. jetsssuck says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-eating-nile-crocodiles-now-141300477.html?nhp=1

    When I was young 14-16 early 70’s a friend of mine and me use to drive down to the florida keyes different islands to fish. Well one time this small croc 4-5 ft tried to steal my catch I was bringing to shore. Scared the hell out of us. I was determined not to lose my new pole.I was slapping him with the reel and my friend went back to truck to get his shotgun from his back window rack(legal back then) well the croc broke the line and swam back into the water. I saved my new pole. On the way back that night we stopped at a store and we told a cop and he told us florida didn’t have crocs. LOL

    • jetsssuck says:

      In Mombasa,Kenya I saw some big ones that were 17 feet and larger at a wildlife refuge.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      The African crocs are the scariest
      The crocs here in the Western Hemisphere tend not to be so dangerous
      But I guess this changes things

      I went kayaking with my brother in the southern Everglades to go see the American crocs there

      There were not a lot but we saw a few on the land and kayaked between them

  42. jetsssuck says:

    Donald Trump was a cowardly 5 time draft dodger….

    http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/271429/donald-trump-draft-dodger/

    • steveccnv says:

      People keep coming up with stuff that he’s done in the past. WTF does any of it have to do with what he’s going to do once he gets in the white house?

      • jetsssuck says:

        Exactly–he can say one thing at noon and change his mind and say another at 3pm.

        cunning- having or showing skill in achieving one’s ends by deceit or evasion.

        He’s a public figure who is running for the most powerful position in the world. who has the nuclear launch codes always within 10 ft of him. His name is spoken in the same sentence of Kim Jong Il internationally which is not comforting. His past actions should be examined along with his knowledge of issues.

  43. wyoming85 says:

  44. jetsssuck says:

    I know its my fault I couldn’t finish Trump’s autobiography but every page keep going back to chapter 11.
    CJ Kalish— SNL 5.14.16

  45. ukfinfan says:

    Toba – very sorry to hear your sad news.

    I’m a bit behind you on the curve with dad, but I had a great “boys night in” with him in the nursing home last night along with a few beers and watching his and my footy team (Man U) win the FA Cup. It’s great for me to cherish such memories, but sadly, not sure how long memories stay with him, although his dementia could be much worse.

    Anyway’s, my thoughts are very much with you and your family – as if coping with the bereavement of a loved one wasn’t bad enough, you have all the other unpleasantness to deal with too. Stay strong fella. I know Omar is widely ridiculed on here as his attitude rubs folk up the wrong way, but there is plenty of good in him too. He’s having a tough time with his stepdaughter’s illness after his divorce and he tweeted something that might chime with you. “Tough times don’t last. Tough people do!”

    Hang in there mate.

    • jetsssuck says:

      Good to hear from you UKfinfan. Sorry to hear you are going through some rough times. I didn’t know Omar was also. He really is a good guy, a local who went to HS right down the road from stadium. I never have understood why people ridicule him he is very approachable and respectful of others. Maybe its jealously. Thanks for updating his troubling times so I can add him in my prayers.

  46. son of a son of a shula says:

    Manitoba, sincere condolences my friend. God bless your mother and you and your family.
    Respect.

  47. son of a son of a shula says:

    You know you’re getting old when:

    Stand at the fridge to get ingredients and forget what’s in a BLT. Doh…

  48. wyoming85 says:

  49. wyoming85 says:

  50. steveccnv says:

    Hang tough Toba, my prayers are with you.

  51. steveccnv says:

    It may be ok for RT to throw lots of bubble screens this year, just get that midget the ball!

  52. son of a son of a shula says:

    OTA’s this week, I wonder if Suh will be there. Maybe he takes the OD approach towards his new teammates and says “show me”.
    Anyway, don’t sweat what the Suh will do this time of year.

    • stangerx says:

      At first I was worried about Suh not being at such, but then I read that he has been doing it his whole career and works out like anything with specialists during the off-season. Don’t make him a team leader, but he ain’t Dansby after he signed his contract either.

  53. son of a son of a shula says:

    This will be Farrington Huguenin this summer:

  54. son of a son of a shula says:

    Suh isn’t a rah-rah guy, he’s a follow me guy. He becomes angry and very disruptive.
    I hope all his stocks take a dip right before the season starts, lol.

  55. son of a son of a shula says:

    I’d love to see Tunsil take a few reps with “the mask” on his face. Probably won’t happen.
    They could improvise slightly with a scuba mask and snorkel.

  56. Tim Knight says:

    Farrington Huguenin actually has some ability where he could end up on a roster at some point. Maybe not this year, might spend a year on the PS while he develops.

  57. sb7mvp says:

    Hey son, you’re lucky you can remember why you went to the fridge in the first place.

  58. jetsssuck says:

    Omar Kelly Verified account
    ‏@OmarKelly
    Just to keep you updated – because you are now part of this – a surgeon will take it on & procedure is planned for Monday.Cross your fingers
    —————————————————–
    Steve and Ken>Did you guys even read the post by UKfinfan. He along with Omar are having troubling times with family members. Omar’s step daughter is having major surgery tomorrow and Omar just went through a divorce. I’ve met him several times and he is not like you guys think he is. He is very good at his job also. In the 1970’s fans didn’t get articles for almost 2 months in the off-season. He produces every day and he likes what he does and his work shows.

  59. wyoming85 says:

    Piggy is this your new law firm?

  60. Mike E. says:

    Cheers UK – Glad to hear you had a nice evening with your dad. That’s great man, you’re a good chap.

  61. Tim Knight says:

    Just watched some Carroo highlights again and he really does remind me of Landry. Maybe he has a little more top end speed than Landry at next level but they are so similar is how they run and catch. Having two guys like that in the lineup moving around creating issues for opposing defenses then you have to worry about Parker, Stills and Cameron as well. Not all on the field at the same time all the time, but a good mix of weapons and different skill sets to rotate.

    If our OL plays up to a solid level which I believe they can if we can keep the main guys on the field along with the addition of Tunsil, then we have two backs in Ajayi and Drake who can also make plays both in the run and pass game, and RT plays more consistent (all of the above should help with that), we could be a potent offense.

    Just give RT a respectable amount of time more often, not asking for perfection, all QBs have to deal with pressure. I think we’re going to see more receivers running open then we have in the past. More big plays.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Because Drake can lineup as a WR we might see him and Ajayi on the field at the same time as well.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      All true and he can’t neglect to see receivers that get totally unguarded either as we saw a few disturbing times last year. The defense totally doesn’t cover someone and his eyes never went over there including during the presnap. These are things Gase should have a much better handle on and the types of corrections T-hill needs in his game so that we do become a contender.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Christensen should help RT with that too. He’s been around a lot of good offenses and knows what it should look like just like Gase.

  62. Tim Knight says:

    Jay Ajayi: “I definitely want to try to lose some weight so I can be a little bit more shiftier this season. I am just trying to prepare myself mentally to be able to take that role up as a starter. I think that I’ve been doing a great job so far, and it’s just about constantly progressing all the way up to the season.”
    http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/article-1/Five-Questions-With-Jay-Ajayi/e1347e12-ea22-462f-86ce-1ab727bd6855

  63. Ken says:

    JS:
    Ask Tannehill or double nickels if they think Omar is respectful. While it is certainly a terrible circumstance with his daughter but it does not change that he is a highly opinionated journalist whose drivel I can’t even read anymore

    • jetsssuck says:

      I don’t know anything about THill or double nickels (who is he) but he is a reporter 1st and they get paid to be opinionated and ask tough questions to generate interest. If you don’t like his articles then you have a right to not read them. As a person he is a very good individual along with great manners.

  64. Tim Knight says:

    LT Albert
    LG Tunsil
    C Pouncey
    RG?
    RT James
    TE Cameron
    WR Landry
    WR Parker
    WR Carroo/Stills
    QB Tannehill
    RB Ajayi/Drake

    We really only need to find a solid RG on offense and that’s it. We’re pretty set everywhere else and there is quite a bit of talent here. A lot of playmakers. Of course I’m going on the notion that the rooks perform right out of the gate and I think there is a good chance they will.

  65. wyoming85 says:

    Lucky young lads!

  66. finfanrob says:

    toba,

    really sorry to hear about your loss. wish you and your family all the best at this tough time

  67. finfanrob says:

    jetsssuck says:
    May 22, 2016 at 12:53 pm

    Steve and Ken>Did you guys even read the post by UKfinfan. He along with Omar are having troubling times with family members. Omar’s step daughter is having major surgery tomorrow and Omar just went through a divorce. I’ve met him several times and he is not like you guys think he is. He is very good at his job also.

    lmfao, that has to be your best ever effort to troll. that is over the top trollness. hell even i am impressed with that effort to troll.

    • jetsssuck says:

      your a true asshole who doesn’t even know you are showing your true colors. I don’t even think you know what the meaning of troll is.

    • steveccnv says:

      We all know Omar by his actions, a family crisis won’t change his past, so no sense in sugarcoating it.

  68. finfanrob says:

    jetsssuck says:
    May 22, 2016 at 2:32 pm

    your a true asshole who doesn’t even know you are showing your true colors. I don’t even think you know what the meaning of troll is.

    yep, you are right, i am a asshole. i have no problem accepting that but you will never admit to who you are and what you try and do here with you idiotic comments just to get yourself attention. but i digress, i am breaking my own rule of giving attention whores attention. cya

  69. jetsssuck says:

    You are a punk…Don’t read my comments in the future and I won’t read yours.

    Are you wanting to stalk me because “but you will never admit to who you are” get some help you are a sick deranged individual. Don’t get mad and want more people killed from Boston Marathon you sick fuck.

    • Tim Knight says:

      What is that comment about the Boston Marathon all about?

      • jetsssuck says:

        The punk once said in a comment that he wished more people died from the terrorist act of the Boston Marathon bombing…Look it up. He’s a deranged sick individual that goes to the same Winn Dixie as OD.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Well I’m not going to look for that but I’d be surprised if he said it the way you’re portraying it.

        I also don’t know what goes to the same Winn Dixie as OD means.

  70. stangerx says:

    “We really only need to find a solid RG on offense and that’s it. ”

    Tim — as far as who lines up for the opener for sure, but pretty sure we’ll have a name running back on the roster too. Ajayi goes down and we are screwed. Easily could see Arian Foster in Agua.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m just going with who we have at the moment. Also don’t count out Drake. I don’t look at rosters based on what if a guy goes down. You can do that at a lot of positions with every team. You never want to lose guys who are penciled in as starters or potential starters in the offseason.

      • stangerx says:

        You said “only need” and I see a need. Depth is part of a good roster. Tanny goes down….well can’t help that. On O we will live if someone on the OL or a wideout does. Cameron goes down, we can adjust to more WR sets. Back to we have cap money and who it would make sense to bring in.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I was talking about starters and significant role players, not depth. Of course you want to have some quality backups. I’m sure we will utilize 4 WRs in a rotation because of the 3 WR sets, and Drake will see time as both a RB and WR at times. We may not be very high on Williams, DT3 and Pead at the moment but let’s see how they perform first.

    • stangerx says:

      Get your point….. sorry for not understanding that we were only talking on the roster now. Still stick by there will be another RB though — even if that might be outside what you said to start.

      • Tim Knight says:

        No worries, it’s possible we do add another back. We have looked into it guys like Foster as you mentioned. We’ll know after the OTAs and minicamps how the coaches feel about the position.

      • stangerx says:

        TIm — of course no worries. Keep in mind I am a most literal guy though. Take what you write as what you write. Guess I could have read in different, but you said we needed a RG.

      • steveccnv says:

        Lol Stanger, Tim has put our his depth chart once a week for 2 months running.

  71. wyoming85 says:

    WOW!!!!!!!!

    • stangerx says:

      LOL — nothing like hanging out at Club Fed.

      ——————–

      “After exactly 120 minutes, Caldwell’s time is up. Perhaps FPC Montgomery is a bit more strict than it first appeared.

      Nah, says the guard. At 3 p.m. they need this space for aerobics class.”

    • steveccnv says:

      He may be the worst starting WR the cheats have had in the brady yrs.

  72. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, I think Tunsil is starting somewhere so to me we’ll need one guard to step up as a starter so I picked RG. We’ll see how the OL shapes up but I do think we know who 4 of them will be.

  73. jetsssuck says:

    finfanrob says:
    January 16, 2016 at 5:45 pm
    i really hate brady and everything boston. now would be a real good time to set off a dirty bomb in NE

    Reply

    https://finsmobunleashed.com/2016/01/14/put-me-in-coach/#comments

    There are other comments like this “more people should have died in Boston Marathon terrorist act.”

    Let the punk explain himself. He’s a POS.

  74. Tim Knight says:

    I know this has been brought up before, but we now have 4 1st rd picks on our OL including Albert who we obviously didn’t draft but we signed him as a UFA. I mean come on, we have to be able to put a solid OL together starting there. Even Thomas and Turner were 3rds and Douglas a 4th. Then we added some vets who have started and played well in their careers. I think keeping most of these guys healthy is the key and we should be able to field a quality starting 5 and some decent depth. Please let that be the case because if it is we can be a good team.

    • steveccnv says:

      The OL has been pretty good when our 3 1st rounders have been in the game at the same time, no reason to think that won’t be the case while adding Tunsil.

      • Tim Knight says:

        7-1 or something like that right? That’s what I’m hoping for. Tunsil should help take it to another level. Then let’s see who the other starter is and 3-4 depth.

      • steveccnv says:

        Omar says 7-1, but it’s based on those 3 all completing the game, so I’m not sure it’s legit.

  75. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, I like the potential of our offense. Gotta see it though. 😉

  76. Brian in NY says:

    Tim Knight says:
    May 22, 2016 at 5:34 pm

    I know this has been brought up before, but we now have 4 1st rd picks on our OL including Albert who we obviously didn’t draft but we signed him as a UFA. I mean come on, we have to be able to put a solid OL together starting there.
    *
    That’s what I kept thinking whe we had 3 1st round picks on the OL. Let’s hope four is the magic number.

  77. Mike E. says:

    I met Rob (FFR) in person. He’s the furthest thing from a POS. Does he have a twisted sense of humor, sure, and might he cross the line of good taste while joking, sure, but he’s a good guy. Let’s try to keep it light here gentlemen, I know we all get annoyed with each other from time to time, but no need for us to disparage each other relentlessly. Hope you both can just ignore each other if possible.

  78. Mike E. says:

    Man, the NL East is tight. Should be a fun season with all our teams in the hunt. Well, almost all our teams, sorry GDP. If you think I feel bad for Mr. 14 division crowns in a row, no shot! Time for ATL to take their lumps, although I’m sure it won’t be for very long, it;s always been a well run organization.

    • steveccnv says:

      Only the Dodgers… 5-5 in the 14th bases loaded no outs, double play 2nd to catcher to 1st, then a strikeout, still tied in the bottom of the 14th 5-5.

  79. Ken says:

    JS:
    Double nickels refers to Koa Misi. It goes to the time that Omar refused to call Misi by his name when writing about. So much about how respectful Omar is. As I said I don’t read his drivel anymore.

  80. http://www.khq.com/story/32036583/cfls-montreal-alouettes-sign-vernon-adams-jr-to-three-year-deal
    Said Adams’ game perfectly suits CFL. Bowling Greens Matt Johnson will probably end up there as well. Gunslinger.

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