What’s up with our Special Teams?

This is the last unit of the team to look at, after covering the defense and the offense, and this year, we seem to have really tried to upgrade the special teams, especially the return game.  Shockingly, we’ve even brought in competition for long time long snapper John Denney.  There will also be competition for the place kicker spot as well, but the real competition will be for punt returner and/or kick returner.  Special teams aren’t just the specialists, such as the K, P, KR/PR, there the guys who fly down the field with abandon, and sacrifice their bodies in violent collisions either blocking the pursuit, or trying to race past and disengage blocks to make the tackle.

Let’s take a look at who we’ve brought in this season, both from the draft, and as UDFA’s.


Kenyan Drake Return

Kenyan Drake

Jakeem Grant

Jakeem Grant

RB Kenyan Drake will not only be in the mix at RB, but he will also provide the team with some special teams help.  Drake was the gunner at Alabama, and that’s a very important cog in the special teams coverage.  WR Leonte Carroo will be in the mix at WR, but also will be in competition for KR/PR with incumbent returner Jarvis Landry.  Shifty, blazing fast WR Jakeem Grant also will be heavily involved in the competition for return man, with Landry and Carroo.  Landry would play every down and do every return, but that’s too much of a drain, so the Dolphins are looking to give him some help, to keep him fresh during the game.  I’m excited to see if these guys can upgrade our return unit, which was pretty solid already with Landry.

Marshall Koehn

K Marshall Koehn


Ryan Disalvo

Long Snapper Ryan DiSalvo

Matt Darr

Punter Matt Darr

Andrew Franks

K Andrew Franks

Punter Matt Darr has proved his mettle, and will be unchallenged for the punter spot.  Last years kicker Andrew Franks, who was solid last season, especially on kickoffs, now faces another contender, rookie K Marshall Koehn.  Rumor has it Diggs put in a good word for Koehn and got him the in, but I can neither verify nor dispute that.  Koehn (pronounced Cane) is a very versatile athlete, who also played WR and DB, as well as playing baseball, soccer and for Stanger, lettered twice as wrestler in High School.  This is no ordinary kicker!  Very strong leg, and regularly placed kickoffs in the end zone, he should make the challenge fun to watch this preseason.

Besides the regular position battles, I’m definitely looking forward to see how our return game shakes out, because now, my thought is Damien Williams will step aside and let the new talent juice up our return game.  They are called the “hidden yards” in a game, but as we all know, strong special teams can really help out the team, both with strong coverage on kicks and punts, and electric returns, long punts, ALL play a crucial part in the battle for field position.


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738 Responses to What’s up with our Special Teams?

  1. naplesfan2010 says:

    It’s unusual for a team to keep 10 OL but not illegal.
    They usually want more skill players.
    If they keep 6 WRs, 4 TEs, 4RBs, 3QBs, that is 27 on offense.
    53-kickers is 50. Half on D is 25 left for offense, so 2 of the above must go.
    Usually that means they keep only 2 QBs and 9 OL, but there are variations.

    This year we might want to keep 3 QBs if we think Douty won’t survive PS exposure.
    More Defensive guys play STs, so then you get an imbalance like 27 on D and 23 on O. then you really have hard decisions such as only 5 WRs and 3 TEs. Some decisions depend on whether the KR comes from WRs or from DBs.

    But all of you guys already know all this. Choices still must be made.

  2. D says:

    I dont know that im ready to say Tunsil doesnt play LT, I think so much could change from now until the season starts that Tunsil could win LT, and Albert kicks inside. Thats also barring any sort of discussion about potential injuries or whatnot. I do think if healthy Albert and Tunsil are both starters on our OL,

    I think Pouncey and his position are pretty much locked, and pretty certain of that for James as well. RG i really am not sure. I would have pretty solidly put Bushrod as my most likely guy were he healthy this whole time, but at this point i think it could go a lot of ways and there are a lot of guys who have a lot to prove to establish themselves as front-runners.

    If forced to pick, I think Douglas is my more likely candidate at this point until Bushrod has shown to be health and we have a chance to evaluate him at OG. I pick Douglas because at leat with him i think there is more question or if he will be good or bad there, but with the other two we know they dont play well so less negative is a positive for Douglas lol.

  3. D says:

    Naples i think you keep 10 if you have concerns about the health of a starter. If you feel pretty confidant about the overall health of your starting unit, you probably dont worry about carrying an additional guy, if you do you keep 10 so that if that guy cant keep healthy, your depth across the OL isnt hit as hard when they go down. Hedging your bet kinda move.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Absolutely correct and important considering Albert’s age/injury history.
      But hell we lost Pouncey for the second season last year and that cost us real lost games, soooo ???

  4. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    June 15, 2016 at 4:23 pm

    No idea with this regime but I only remember 10 when we had injuries and were bringing guys in or signing them up from the PS. If you only bring 7 to the game, I’m not sure more than 9 total makes sense. Unless you’re loaded with talent and we’re not. Is a 10th guy going to be so good we can’t find that guy off the street?
    Thats also a good point, it does depend on whom that 10th guys is. You still have your PS guys if you need to bring someone up, but if your 10th guy is a warm body, you can get someone to come in and provide the same depth as that guy, except maybe a little behind on the playbook. That 10th guy isnt going to help you in the game that your starter goes down, he so you dont have to scramble to find someone so you wind up really thin somewhere.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Sometimes PS guys are developmental types who are not ready and that’s why you see teams sign guys off the streets during injuries. They target guys who have played in the league before and are at least further along and a better option for now.

  5. D says:

    A 9th or 10th OL isnt someone you really expect to ever play even if a starter goes down, they might be one of the 7 you suit up though so if you suffer a second hit to your starters then they start become a real option.

  6. naplesfan2010 says:

    Last year we carried Hazel as a 6th WR all year, and he contributed nothing. That was maybe a mistake on our part, but it’s a new coaching regime, so they are not necessarily bound to deviate from last year’s mistakes. I want to keep 6 WRs this year.

    A few years ago we kept Devlin as a 3rd QB and before that Pat White, both mistakes on our part as they neither one contributed anything to our team on game day. But teams do do that.

    Douty had such huge numbers in college that he might be attractive for a team to poach off the PS in an emergency. However, he is considered too green to just throw on to the field, so maybe not.

    A lot depends on preseason performance. If he tears it up and looks game day ready, then we’ll have to protect him as a 3rd QB. Of course then the question becomes, is Moore expendable this year instead of next? I do not think Douty wins games for us if Tannehill misses whole games, but then again, can Moore win games in the NFL any more?

    • D says:

      Well i think thats where Grant comes in, because in Gase’s system he likely fulfills a both depth at RB and receiver, allowing us to carry 1 less of one of those two spot officially, and that could open the door for us to carry an extra TE for example, and that could open up sme extra plays. Duarte covers both TE and WR, so add him as a 4th TE and Carry 5 receivers, add an extra OL. There is a lot of flexibility on our roster as to how we move the numbers around, maybe with so much overlap on offense we actually carry an extra guy on defense to cover potential injury there. Thats why these hybrid players can really help making filling out a roster easier.

  7. D says:

    Concerned about Drake, hammies can be such a nagging injury, but if he was walking with a limp, its not a real serious one. If it had been a bad hamstring pull they would have practically had to carry him off.

  8. Tim Knight says:

    D, as of right now Albert says he feels the best he has since back in his earlier days in KC. He was drafted at 315 and that’s what he’s back to. He carried too much weight last year because he had to rehab over conditioning. We have a healthy Albert going in. He’s a more experienced NFL LT than Tunsil. I think Tunsil could learn a lot playing LG for a few years next to Albert and Pouncey. Unless Albert breaks down, I think he’ll play out his contract or at least two more years. Don’t fuck with your investments and get too cute. Protecting RT is paramount. He’ll play better with better guys up front.

    • D says:

      Im not concerned with what Albert says, the Dr’s will know if they feel he has good range and that the previous injruy is fully healed. Im not also saying Albert IS going to get hurt but i do think when you fill out your roster, if in the team Dr’s are saying yeah he’s about 80% right now so just have to see…you are thinking about keeping 10, if they are saying he looks great,you probably keep 9.

      Just like what Steve was saying about getting excited about the coaches saying so and so looks really good im impressed with their progress…. yadda yadda yadda….you take a player saying im 100%, best i have felt in years….with a grain of salt, because well they say that shit all the time and there really isnt many that would say different even if it wasnt true.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Why would you think Albert is only 80% when he’s in better shape now than last year and he finished out the season playing really well at times? Last year was the 75-80% season. He has been able to do everythong this offseason when last year he basically missed all the camps rehabbing and making it back for opening day.

        Until he goes down, Albert is a core LT for us.

  9. naplesfan2010 says:

    TE after Cameron and Sims is either a big mess or steady on with Stoneburner (2 TDs last year) and Duarte (with 10 TDs in the PAC 10 last year).

    • Tim Knight says:

      I think we have 7 TEs on the roster.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        That’s the big mess I was alluding to. Are Gabe Hughes, first ever NFL player from Fl Tech, MarQueis Gray(??), and Dominique Jones from Shepherd College any more than camp bodies? sad to say.
        The patsies* don’t have 7. They KNOW who is playing. They have 2 Studs and AJ Derby?? and Clay Harbor. They’ll carry those and that’s it.

        We have a mess at TE.

  10. The Flying Pig says:

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    think about these things when you get dressed tomorrow morning

  11. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    June 15, 2016 at 5:08 pm

    Why would you think Albert is only 80% when he’s in better shape now than last year and he finished out the season playing really well at times? Last year was the 75-80% season. He has been able to do everythong this offseason when last year he basically missed all the camps rehabbing and making it back for opening day.

    Until he goes down, Albert is a core LT for us.
    Didnt you get from my post that was a hypothetical? I think you make your mind up when people have an agenda sometimes when we dont.

    Only thing im concerned about is for us to have stability on the OL, i literally pulled 80% out of air with no intention of it meaning anything but to make the point that if they have concerns about Albert …..also i used Albert as an example, though i feel he is a relevant one, since he has had a couple seasons now he spent part of injured.

    You brought Albert into my convo btw. If you read back when i was making the concern over injury statement i said “concerns over the health of a starter”. I know i was talking Albert’s injury history before but that was not the case when i was making my comment to Naples.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Relax man! Not sure why you think everything I say to you is so adversarial. It’s a discussion. Some people act like Albert has only one leg and he’s 40 years old way too often here. He’ll be 32 a couple of days before we select a new president. LOL

  12. Tim Knight says:

    So let’s say we keep 6 WRs because of the uptempo/spread offense that we will still play. Just maybe more intelligent plays and audibles thrown in there, just saying! LOL

    Who are your 6 today with probably only 5 dressing for the game? Mine is – Landry, Parker, Stills, Carroo and Grant and not sure who the 6th depth guy is yet. Maybe a gritty guy like Whalen.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Totally agree. That is my 6 and I like Whalen from what I saw of him against us.

    • D says:

      I agree with your list. For 6th guy id think Whalen is most likely now. I say that being one of the few here that really likes Hazel.

      Out of the rest on the roster i think this is how they rank as far as likelihood to make the team as the 6th receiver.

      Griff Whalen.
      Matt Hazel
      Rashawn Scott
      Tyler Murphy
      Brandon Shippen
      AJ Cruz

  13. naplesfan2010 says:

    Arrows mean they once played for Miami<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    New England Patriots Depth Chart (Scroll down quickly LOL)
    Is their OL more solid than ours?
    Remember their OL play got their OL coach fired after the playoff loss when Brady got hammered.
    Danny Amendola
    Chris Hogan<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    Nate Washington
    DeAndre Carter
    Matthew Slater
    Nate Solder
    Marcus Cannon
    Cameron Fleming
    Shaq Mason
    Josh Kline
    Joe Thuney
    Ted Karras
    Bryan Stork
    David Andrews
    Tre Jackson
    Jonathan Cooper a bad trade or a brilliant one?
    Chris Barker
    Keavon Milton
    Sebastian Vollmer
    LaAdrian Waddle
    Rob Gronkowski
    Martellus Bennett
    A.J. Derby
    Clay Harbor
    Julian Edelman
    Keshawn Martin
    Aaron Dobson
    Chris Harper
    Devin Lucien
    Malcolm Mitchell
    Tom Brady
    Jimmy Garoppolo
    Jacoby Brissett
    LeGarrette Blount
    James White
    James Develin
    Donald Brown
    Dion Lewis
    Brandon Bolden
    Tyler Gaffney
    Joey Iosefa

    Rob Ninkovich<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    Geneo Grissom
    Frank Kearse<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    Alan Branch
    Terrance Knighton
    Vincent Valentine
    Anthony Johnson
    Malcom Brown
    Joe Vellano
    Markus Kuhn
    Jabaal Sheard
    Chris Long
    Trey Flowers
    Jamie Collins
    Rufus Johnson
    Jonathan Freeny<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    Ramon Humber
    Elandon Roberts
    Dont'a Hightower
    Shea McClellin
    Kevin Snyder
    Kamu Grugier-Hill
    Malcolm Butler
    Justin Coleman
    Darryl Roberts
    Cyrus Jones
    Logan Ryan
    E.J. Biggers
    Patrick Chung
    Duron Harmon
    Jordan Richards
    Brock Vereen
    Devin McCourty
    Nate Ebner
    Cedric Thompson<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    E.J. Biggers
    Brandon King

  14. Tim Knight says:

    I also feel Duarte could end up being a swing guy at TE/H-Back/WR as the 5th WR/4th TE on game day. He’s a mismatch player. He should have the ability to beat a LB and challenge a safety or extra DB.

  15. naplesfan2010 says:

    Interesting that the patsies* list a 2-back set right on their depth chart.
    They list EIGHT RBs on the 90.
    How many will make the 53?

  16. D says:

    What a shitty attitude he has…. i just dont get how people like him.

  17. Tim Knight says:

    I feel Drake was drafted as a speed player with big plays in him. Carroo was drafted as a Matthews/Landry type – tough and productive with some big plays in him. Grant as a short, super quick and fast mismatch guy, and Duarte as another mismatch guy more up front. It seems like we’re trying to make it impossible for opposing defenses to matchup with us on a consistent basis. I think that comes from Gase’s philosophy. It’s all about mismatches and the QB making the right reads. Then throw in some runs to keep things balanced.

    • steveccnv says:

      I don’t know why it’s been that difficult to draft system players up until this year. I can’t complain about last year’s draft, it’s got a chance to be special.

  18. steveccnv says:

    What I learned today, having 7 TEs on our roster means we have a mess there. Albert has more NFL experience playing LT, than a rookie does😂

  19. Mike E. says:

    Tim Knight says:
    June 15, 2016 at 5:55 pm (Edit)

    What does Jonathan Cooper have to do with us?
    Whaddaya mean? You picked him in our mock draft! 🙂

  20. Mike E. says:

    Awesome! Danny Boy slinging it to Landry

  21. Mike E. says:

    Dolphins sign Kenyan Drake

  22. Al in MIA says:

    From that SunSentinel article you posted:

    “Pushups for defense

    Defensive players had to do five pushups toward the end of practice because they got beat by the offense in a drill mimicking the final play of the game.

    “The fun part of it is five pushups, and you try to get everybody to pick a side,” Gase said. “I was waiting for [executive vice president of football operations Mike] Tannenbaum to [choose a side], but he stayed in the back.”

    LOL, what a fatass Tbaum is 🙂

  23. BoulderPhinfan says:

    from mando,
    “So far, without pads, Thomas and Turner are holding serve on their spots while Tunsil is running mostly second team. (Tunsil has gotten first-team reps the past two days but not as many as the other two, which can change at any moment).”

  24. Al in MIA says:

    From Barry Jackson’s report:

    “Gase downplayed the importance of who’s playing with the first team, noting that he doesn’t ask offensive line coach Chris Foerster “who do you have starting today…. We are just going to keep working on different groups. We will keep running guys in there.”

    LOL, a shot at Philbin’s style?

  25. Al in MIA says:

    I’m excited about Duarte’s role as well.
    In that presser a few days ago, Gase said that the scouts/coaches liked his WR skills out of the TE position. He said that other teams saw him as a tweener (some saw him as something other than TE). Gase mentioned his receiving skills but did add that he doesn’t know if he can block yet at this level but that “we’ll see what happens when the pads come on” .

  26. Al in MIA says:

    Mike E,
    lol at that pic of Danny throwing the ball.
    Look at Stills face…it’s like “wow man, this is how you throw a football” lol.

  27. Mike E. says:

    Duarte could do more for us this year than Cameron did for us last year. I really do believe that.

    • D says:

      I dont think Duarte will be able to fill the role Cameron played last year, not even close. I also though dont think thats what he is there fore this year and i think in Gase’s system he could have the level of productions Cameron had in Lazor’s. I think though Cameron in Gase’s system compared to what i feel Duarte will do in Gase’s system isnt comparable. Im hoping both go off this year.

  28. D says:

    There is more than one way to look at the Tunsil not getting all the first team snaps. It can be negative as in you are choosing to believe that Tunsil has not been better than two guys who stunk last year, so he in turn must stink. You could reverse that thought and say, Tunsil is playing decent but Turner and Thomas have improed their game to make it competitive, or you could just believe what Gase is saying and go with us taking looks at all of them at different positions. Turner was getting first team looks at RT too, now he’s getting them at RG. There is too much going on at the OG positions that i wouldn’t be surprised seeing just about anyone not named Pouncey or James, getting some first team looks there.

    • Mike E. says:

      Honestly, I look at it that they’re not just gonna hand the rookie the starting job, and want him to fight to win the job, which I totally believe he will

      • D says:

        I agree, and i also think it may show that Turner and Thomas are starting to respond to the coaching we have now. I think its overall a positive sign of having players that are more cometative than they have been before.

  29. Mike E. says:

    I didn’t mean that Duarte would be starting at TE, I just meant his production this season could be more than Cameron’s was last year. He’ll be moved around a lot, playing 2nd TE in line, or sometimes in the slot, or maybe even out of the backfield. I just think once he proves he’s reliable, he’ll get opportunities.

    • D says:

      Thats about how i feel he will be used. He wont be a starting TE but i dont think he was drafted to be. He’s another mismatch guy. Line him up in the slot, out of the backfield, part of a 2 TE package, like you are saying. More Hernandez type of player, minus the murder.

  30. D says:

    Adam Beasley ‏@AdamHBeasley 4m4 minutes ago

    Not at practice today: Jarvis Landry, Mario Williams, Jason Jones.
    Wonder why Landry isnt there. The other two are on personal leave, but seems its been all week now, so hope it wasnt something bad.

  31. D says:

    Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero 12m12 minutes ago

    Kenyan Drake, who left practice with an apparent hamstring injury yesterday, is sitting out today’s practice. He signed his deal though.
    Expected, but i dont think he would be there if it had been a serious hamstring pull.

  32. Mike E. says:

    Drake will probably rest for a couple of weeks and let the hammy heal.

  33. D says:

    Adam Beasley ‏@AdamHBeasley 3m3 minutes ago

    Tunsil getting work at left tackle, Thomas at left guard today.

  34. D says:

    James Walker ‏@JamesWalkerNFL 8m8 minutes ago

    With #Dolphins WR Jarvis Landry not present today, backup Griff Whalen is getting more of a look with the starters in three-wide sets.
    3 retweets 3 likes

  35. D says:

    Adam Beasley ‏@AdamHBeasley 9m9 minutes ago

    QBs are trying to throw an end-zone fade into a trash can. Matt Moore the only one to do so so far.
    Good that is one thing Tanny REALLY needs to work on is his RZ touch passing.

  36. Al in MIA says:

    I don’t think it’s anything bad with Landry but ya never know I guess.
    I think in these OTA the coaches look for fundamentals and most of the veterans usually have that kind of stuff down. Judgement errors during games is usually what separates the good ones from the bad ones on game day.

  37. Al in MIA says:

    D says:
    June 16, 2016 at 11:14 am

    Adam Beasley ‏@AdamHBeasley 9m9 minutes ago

    QBs are trying to throw an end-zone fade into a trash can. Matt Moore the only one to do so so far.
    Good that is one thing Tanny REALLY needs to work on is his RZ touch passing.

    For sure. I think the only true change up I’ve seen from RT near the end zone is that tear drop, grenade like toss, throw into the endzone to the TE (to Dion Sims down the middle).
    I think his footwork is to blame most of the time on those type of throws .
    He needs better coordination on his pivot to throw motion.

  38. The Flying Pig says:


  39. Mike E. says:

    Omar Kelly
    ✔ ‎@OmarKelly For the record, Matt Moore got it in the garbage can twice. No other QB got it in. Don’t sleep on Matt Moore.


    Don’t sleep on him? Really? In what regard?

  40. The Flying Pig says:

    We need to pick a new slogan to support our rooks

    For Duarte I’m going with

    “Farty for Duarte!!!”

    What do you guys think?

  41. The Flying Pig says:

    Moore has always thrown a really nice touch pass

    It’s one of his strengths
    But there are other things that are kind of not so strong for him

  42. The Flying Pig says:

    Whore for Moore!!!

  43. Al in MIA says:

    One thing about roster depth and how many OL the fins will carry…

    I think it will be the same logic as with most teams and that depth really depends on talent level on all parts of the roster.

    If a backup defender is graded better than a backup OL, usually the team will keep the extra defender over an OL who doesn’t have as much value to other teams in the NFL.

    No point carrying around an extra guy on OL if you can find a similar player off some other teams waiver wire or PS.

    Most teams let go of a more talented player on the depth chart at a certain position only if injuries dictate this.

  44. Al in MIA says:

    lol @ Omar and QB.

  45. Mike E. says:

    Cake for Drake

  46. Mike E. says:

    Sc-rew for Caroo

  47. Mike E. says:

    Powered for Howard

  48. BoulderPhinfan says:

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 1h1 hour ago
    Adam Gase really takes a hands on approach to coaching the Dolphins offense. I’ve never seen that from a head coach.

  49. D says:

    Wouldnt mind us bringing Loston in as a camp body at S. This guys was good at LSU and i think just needs the right system. He fits the mold of a press zone scheme safety with hybrid SS/FS traits.

  50. The Flying Pig says:

    Taste for Gase

  51. Al in MIA says:

    If you are around, here is some video on camp OL body Ben “Ruben” Carter:

    Let me know what you think.

    • D says:

      I know you are asking Randy but just as some additional observation. Id say he doesn’t have the greatest movement skills, his footwork is ok but not great and he gets a little high on a few of his pass pro snaps. He does seem to be an aggressive finisher on plays, he seems to be pretty strong and he uses his strength and size well sealing out blockers. He also uses his hands pretty well also. Almost ever play they had him pulling the RB has to delay to get behind his blocks though so he really doesn’t get to the second level very well. I cant see him being able to play OC for us, he has some potential as an OG. I think with time and coaching on the flaws i pointed out could be a solid backup there, maybe low end starting potential but its going to take a lot of work for him to get there.

  52. D says:

    James Walker ‏@JamesWalkerNFL 7m7 minutes ago

    #Dolphins rookie WR Jakeem Grant said he gets a lot of @KevinHart4real jokes from teammates because of his size.
    3 retweets 1 like

  53. Al in MIA says:

    Dandy for Landry

  54. Mike E. says:

    Pouty for Doughty

  55. Al in MIA says:

    True to Suh

  56. The Flying Pig says:

    Rapunzil for Tunsil???

    (Everyone grow your hair out)

  57. BoulderPhinfan says:

    It is june.

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 3m3 minutes ago
    There’s a ton of talent on the offensive line, but even Mike Pouncey admits they haven’t put it all together yet.

    • D says:

      OL/DL observations are kinda moot right now. Thats a very physical area, only so hard you can exert yourself without pads to protect you. How well the OL unit is doing will really be exposed in TC/PS.

  58. wyoming85 says:

    Adam Beasley ‏@AdamHBeasley 2m2 minutes ago
    Jarvis Landry was excused for personal reasons.

  59. wyoming85 says:

    Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero 11m11 minutes ago
    Adam Gase says rook QB Brandon Doughty has made lot of progress. “He seems to find completions.”

  60. wyoming85 says:

  61. BoulderPhinfan says:

    I was really hoping Tunsil was gonna start but if he can’t even beat Dallas Thomas out then should we be worried? I guess we’ll see end of august.

    Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley
    Gase said Tunsil “has a lot of room to get better.”

  62. wyoming85 says:

  63. The Flying Pig says:

    I like how decisive they were about making Tunsil an OG

  64. wyoming85 says:

  65. Al in MIA says:

    Coach Adam Gase said it would have been more of a challenge for Tunsil to go from left tackle to right tackle than left tackle to left guard.

    “When you put a guy on the left side, he’s playing the two positions that really they’re making the calls together whether it be in the run game or the pass game,” Gase said. “So it’s not like he’s learning something completely different.

    “Whether it’s left guard or left tackle it’s easy for him to go back and forth. It’s a big difference when you go from the right to the left. It’s a completely different view.”

    While it’s tough to evaluate offensive linemen in minicamp practices without pads, Tunsil said you can still get a feel for a players’ athleticism.

    “But putting pads on is a different thing,” he said. “Just wait ’till we get the pads on. Everything should be good.”

    • stangerx says:

      ““Whether it’s left guard or left tackle it’s easy for him to go back and forth.”
      If Gase is as smart as Peyton says — a very interesting “forth.”

  66. Mike E. says:


    I feel pretty confident saying Tunsil will be starting once the season begins.

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      I hope so. I keep hearing that thomas has improved and is stronger etc…. I really don’t want to have another year of thomas starting.

  67. stangerx says:

    Mike E — Tim said you guys couldn’t hit. That was an offensive explosion by the Metskies last night.

    • Mike E. says:

      We can’t hit consistently. We’ll get 2 hits today and lose 3-0. I wonder if we’ll take a look at that Cuban star Yulieski Gourriel, or maybe even Jimmy Rollins or Jose Reyes. Not only can’t we hit, but we can’t run the bases either. Station to station base running means you need lots of hits, so I won’t be surprised if we make some kind of move to get a bat. Just read Wright might be out the whole season.

      • stangerx says:

        Ouch on Wright, but you guys should be OK against us tonight. You are getting Nicasio…..another contestant in the Bucs’ “who won’t be in the starting rotation at the end of the year” game show. Locke hit the bankrupt on the wheel last night.

  68. Mike E. says:


    I read that too, but Thomas is a depth player, and Tunsil is a very talented OL who will play OG for us this season, and will slide into the LT spot whenever Albert is gone

  69. Al in MIA says:

    Saw your response to the question I posed to Randy regarding Carter and appreciate your feed back.
    It does look like he needs alot of work and that he seems nibble footed but has issues with his body lean and how to use his upper body (extending arms or how to cut down defenders in the 2nd level).

  70. The Flying Pig says:

    No Pant for Grant!

  71. Al in MIA says:

    This is basically how I view the competition at OL:

    Tier 1

    Tier 2

    Tier 3

  72. D says:

    Maybe Omar was being literal….like don’t sleep on Moore, he’s lumpy and you wont get a good nights rest…..

  73. D says:

    So looks like Bosa ia already holding out because of the contract lanugaue of his rookie deal…. Missed everything so far including the mandatory mini camp that just finished up.

  74. Mike E. says:

    Spicoli (Bosa) will be out of the league in 2-3 years. He wants his money now.

  75. The Flying Pig says:

    No Fitzpatrick
    Unhappy Wilkerson

    Things are really going well for the jests so far this offseason


  76. steveccnv says:

    Mike, you don’t believe that about Duarte doing more than Cameron. If you do let’s bet, using point per reception FF rules.

  77. The Flying Pig says:

    New Blog up

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