Who’s in Your Draft Class?

Figure four years after you graduated High School to determine which NFL Draft you would have been a part of had you been a good enough football player to be considered.  For me it would be the 1986 Draft. Although I was as fast as a deer and hit like a truck they weren’t looking for me. The draft in ’86 was twelve rounds long and the league at the time consisted of only 28 teams. Let’s see who was the best player from that draft, let’s see who the Dolphins came away with and who was largely thought to be the biggest bust of that draft.

Determining who the best player from the ’86 draft was is tricky because the first pick in the draft was Bo Jackson 14732425-mmmainwho without question was the greatest athlete from that draft but he never played for the poor Tampa Bay Bucs who drafted him. Jackson went on to play baseball for the Kansas City Royals before becoming a two-sport hero when he began his NFL career as a member of the Oakland Raiders.

Other candidates for “best” player from the ’86 draft include:

1st rounders – Tony Casillas, Leslie O’Neal

2nd rounders – Ernest Givens, Pepper Johnson

3rd rounders – Pat Swilling, Tim McKyer

How about 8th rounders Ray Brown of St. Louis who played in a whopping 262 games or Seth Joyner of the Eagles?

It’s a tough one to answer.

The ’86 draft featured Dolphin favorite Keith Byars who went to the Eagles with the 10th pick and later came to Miami as a FA acquisition.

Without a first round pick the Dolphins first pick came at pick 52 where Dolphin great John Offerdahl was selected. His career was cut short due to injury or he may have easily vied for contention as the greatest player from the ’86 draft.52727acef07d4-image

T.J. Turner DE and James Pruitt WR were the 3rd and 4th round picks who both had decent careers.

Kevin Wyatt, Brent Sowell, Larry Kolic and John Stuart were 5,6,7,8 respectively. A bunch of blah nothing. John Stuart never played in a game.

Round 9 turned up a nice player who had a decent career in Reyna Thompson.

Jeff Wickersham, Arnold Franklin and Ricky Isom at 10, 11 and 12 complete the WHO? factor. Wickersham is a local product from Merritt Island, Fl.

The biggest bust of the 1986 draft is pretty easy to answer however, at pick 12 the Lions selected QB Chuck Long from Iowa. 67463614ded522d7f1e2e4761727ffdaBUST!

Ouch!!

#lionssuckatdrafting

#chuckdidntlastlong

#lastiowaqbdraftedearly?

#notevenaquestion

 

Amidst all the political and Mets talk I thought I’d go down memory lane a bit while our current Fins are out there in OTA’s grinding and bonding. I’m a sucker every year for it but I have to say I like the things I am hearing thus far. I feel like Suh is being handled properly. I feel like this coaching staff is “reaching” the players and the players seem to be buying in.

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730 Responses to Who’s in Your Draft Class?

  1. Tim Knight says:

    Did anyone catch VJ say in his presser that Cleyon Laing is mainly playing inside? I remember during the draft some of us liked Jonathan Bullard as an interior sub package rusher at 6-3 285. Well Laing who is listed at 6-4 290 on the official site is the same type of guy. It would be great if he panned out being from the CFL. He had 16 sacks up there over 3 years including 9 last season. So maybe he’s a player on the rise. He’s only 25.

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      wake part 2?

      • Tim Knight says:

        A different type of player and he wasn’t quite as dynamic as Wake who dominated the league up there – rookie of the year and twice DPoY totaling 39 sacks in 2 years. But if he can give us some depth and inside pass rush that would be a good thing.

    • Al in MIA says:

      Let’s hope. 🙂

  2. Al in MIA says:

    Is there a new blog up that I don’t know about?
    Where are all the East coasters LOL.

  3. wyoming85 says:

  4. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, the Bucs are a good team but right now the Mets aren’t hitting and they’re down a few starting bats right now. To me the Mets need to hold ground until the all-star break and then go on a late season run. They’ve been very up and down so far.

    • stangerx says:

      They are doing just fine. Right now it would them and the Pirates in the wildcard game. I ain’t complaining about that even though we are down 8 games to the Cubs.

      • Tim Knight says:

        The Cubs are either going to run away with it or cool off and come back to earth at some point. I’m still hoping the Mets can get to full strength in all phases and take the division from the Nats at the end so no WC game. 🙂

      • stangerx says:

        And I’m waiting for the Bucs to get better too. We got three hot pitching prospects now eligible to come up now that it is June. You’ll see the first one make his debut tonight — Jameson Taillon, a former overall #2 pick.

  5. stangerx says:

    Al in MIA says:
    June 8, 2016 at 9:26 am
    Stanger,
    I wish the Bucs can just leave Harrison at lead off (my selfish fantasy reasons LOL).
    Really, he’s got the speed Jaso doesn’t have to steal bases and he’s far better contact hitter than Mercer or anyone else they have tried at the top of the lineup.
    ——————————-
    Jaso doesn’t have the speed, but he’s doing just fine (and he draws a lot of walks). Harrison would be the traditional lead off guy but the Pirates line up ain’t like a lot of other teams. They are deep through the first seven spots (guys batting .290 or more) and don’t really try to manufacture runs…..just let those guys swing away or go for the free pass.

    They don’t really push it too much until they get towards the 8th and 9th spots. So think they like having guys in the 5-7 spots with speed like Harrison and Marte cause that is the point where they are willing to for the swipes.

    And where Harrison does plays means more RBIs for you.

  6. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, Jameson Taillon is a big kid. Is he a hard thrower?

    • stangerx says:

      Never seen him play a game in my life, but from reports he has mid-nineties and sometimes up fastball, big overhand curve and a decent change-up.

  7. wyoming85 says:

  8. stangerx says:

    Don’t include Jamil Douglas as one of the guys worried about Tunsil.

    “I knew he was athletic. But I think the guy … it’s crazy how athletic he is. If you watch him play, how natural his movements are. He’s just an athletic guy, a smart guy. He’s kind of quiet right now. I think he’s just trying to get comfortable.”

    • Tim Knight says:

      Douglas has been working at C and both G spots so he’s got a shot to be one of the 7 that goes to the game even if he doesn’t start. He said he’s been working on snapping all offseason – 25 snaps per day before they even got into OTAs. Last year he was thrown in there in-season. He should be better all around this year.

      • steveccnv says:

        I’m OK with only keeping one of the 3, between Douglas, Turner, and Thomas. Hoping for Douglas, he’s strong. Turner is OK, and might provide future LT depth, but has to pick it up this camp, and Turner is done.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Well Turner really only has one season under his belt. He was hurt his rookie season and missed most of it. Douglas one season under his belt. Thomas is another story. He’ll have to really take his game to another level to stick around being that he’s in his 4th season and even he didn’t play much his rookie season due to shoulder rehab.

        My view on this is let’s see how it plays out. Who’s the starting 5 and who rounds out the 3-4 depth spots.

      • stangerx says:

        “he’s been working on snapping all offseason – 25 snaps per day before they even got into OTAs.”

        Would love to know how many snaps he was planning on doing before the draft versus those 25. 🙂

  9. steveccnv says:

    25 doesn’t seem like a lot.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Per day? How many do you think he does in practice? There are 4-5 guys getting reps each day at center.

      You’re talking about 175 snaps per week unless he takes a day off. It’s not like he’s just snapping one after the other within 5 minutes. I’m sure it’s more concentrated than that along with making line calls. He said he does that in his living room with items lined up in different spots representing the DL and LBs. That’s how he works on his calls but doesn’t snap it in his house. LOL

      Think about it this way. He didn’t get reps at center early on last year, that happened in-season so think about having 0 snaps for say 6-8 weeks of the season and then being thrown into the fire vs. having like 3,000 snaps heading into this season.

      • Tim Knight says:

        It’s all about hand placement and finding out what works best for him. There are only two snaps he needs to get down, under center and shotgun. Reps equals learning what works best and then perfecting it for consistency. Last year he was still learning in games. Not the best time for that.

  10. Mike E. says:

    Omar is killing Dion Jordan today.

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 5m5 minutes ago

    Is has become VERY CLEAR Dolphins are uncomfortable thinking about, talking about or planning for Dion Jordan. He’s disappointed them plenty

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 3m3 minutes ago

    Im told Dion Jordan isn’t in the greatest shape, & the fact he waited more than a month to apply for reinstatement raises even more concerns

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 2m2 minutes ago

    With all that said, I’d be misleading you if I told you I knew what would be happening with Dion Jordan. I just know the Dolphins moved on.

    • steveccnv says:

      What an idiot, the team can’t talk about him, because of CBA rules. He says he doesn’t know about him, but says they moved on. How could he know they’ve moved on, if he doesn’t know about him. His BS is so easy to decipher.

    • stangerx says:

      Lets add in that the Phins aren’t even allowed to talk about Jordan while on suspension and can’t step foot in camp until then. Was Omar hitting the internet again, or did he just burn the last person who ever talked to him confidentially in Davie?

      • steveccnv says:

        He’s not capable of using logic to figure things out, so he just spews out agenda driven BS. The only reason he’s on Twitter is, because of the power he thinks hes getting from the blocked button. Kiss my ass or you’re blocked.

      • stangerx says:

        steveccnv — were you on the SS board when Omar figured out the power of select “I am God” presentation that came with Twiitter? He was like one of the guys who figured out how to build Kelley LeBrock in Weird Science.

      • steveccnv says:

        Yes, an epiphany (realization that after all this time he didn’t know the obvious).

  11. Tim Knight says:

    Whether there is something real here or not he’s so cryptic. His last point is totally contradictory. I don’t know but I do. LOL

    • steveccnv says:

      Which means he doesn’t know. If they didn’t want him they’d at least try to trade him, and wouldn’t have sent Alonso out to check on him. When logic is lacking, which is most of the time, his BS meter turns to bright red. When trying to trade him you don’t say you don’t want him.

  12. stangerx says:

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 5m5 minutes ago
    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 3m3 minutes ago
    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 2m2 minutes ago

  13. Tim Knight says:

    Does Omar ever learn the game or is he always wondering about stuff? He says OL can’t be evaluated much without pads then goes on to do just that. He says he doesn’t talk QBs then does nothing but for long stretches at a time. Then says he knows how the team feels about Jordan but he’d be misleading us if he said he knew something. LOL

    Geez dude, WTF?!!!

  14. Tim Knight says:

    Cue in FFR accusing us of giving him what he wants – commentary about his contradictions on a blog that isn’t really mainstream so only maybe 50 people read it. LOL

  15. Tim Knight says:

    Carroo is built like a RB. He might be the Matthews replacement who was similar in size – 6-0 210.
    http://www.miamidolphins.com/multimedia/videos/Carroo-Everyone-Is-Talented-At-This-Level/3c7fbee0-4eac-40d1-adc1-3c0b109dd864

  16. BoulderPhinfan says:

    He does have a point regarding the one month wait to apply. why would he do that? And is it a coincidence that it takes 30 days for THC to be removed from you system completely? LOL

    I hope he’s ready to play. I haven’t given up on Jordan even if Omar has.

    • Tim Knight says:

      My only guess based on his recent interviews is he was more concerned about finding himself over being a football player. He needed to be a good man first, then a football player. I’m still wondering if football is his thing even though he says that was something he always felt he was really good at. Maybe he’d rather be a chef. We don’t know yet.

      I hope he finds peace in whatever he does even if he didn’t help our Dolphins and we gave up two high picks to get him. That was 2013. We haven’t been a good team since with or without him. We’re in a new era. If he wants to play and can help us, great! If not, I hope he finds himself. He’s no longer a key to anything we do this year. He’s a bonus.

    • steveccnv says:

      The month wait baffles everyone, but its not like Omar figured out it was strange, it’s common sense. Once he gets into camp we’ll know, if he’s in shape, if he wants to play, and how much BS his agent fed us. Based on pictures of him working out he seems sincere that he wants to play.

  17. stangerx says:

    Not sure why he had to put Timothy P. Wheat in the corner twice, but man he isn’t the same guy any more who had fear in his eyes when I gave a big hello and offered my hand to shake.

    ——————————————-

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 13m13 minutes ago
    Mandatory minicamp is next week. Watch these same people beg me to unblock them. It’s quite hilarious.

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 18m18 minutes ago
    Omar Kelly Retweeted zack
    You clearly do since you responded…..BLOCKED

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 22m22 minutes ago
    Omar Kelly Retweeted Timothy P. Wheat
    BLOCKED

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 24m24 minutes ago
    Omar Kelly Retweeted Timothy P. Wheat
    BLOCKED

  18. Al in MIA says:

    He’s probably just jumping to conclusions based on what he hears rather than waiting out the process and reporting it when or if it happens.
    He’s acting no different than Jason La Canfora who wrote about Dion Jordan being traded to Philadelphia or any other national reporter who tries to play this game of “Ha, i told you i was right!” by per-emptively writing about something that hasn’t occured.
    It seems being wrong is not a problem for the people that employ them.
    So much for journalistic integrity these days. It’s all tabloid crap these days for the big companies and they encourage it from their journalists.

    • steveccnv says:

      It’s all about hits, that’s why I only belive the things that are fact like, what happened from scrimmage. The BS meter is always on high with all reporters.

  19. Al in MIA says:

    Boulder,
    Let’s be honest, the agency representing him is calling all the shots for Dion at this point.
    As to why he reinstating later rather than sooner, the explanation is the establishment of accomplishments being made off the field before reinstatement. Jordan is in the middle of various things and the agency does not want him to apply until he has completed those self imposed off field recovery programs so as to show the NFL that he is focused on those recovery programs. Applying without completing the programs first would show the NFL that he is not as genuine in fixing his problems.

    • steveccnv says:

      I agree, but they are advertising for other players in trouble, so they’re basically using Dion. Look what we did for Dion, we could do the same for you, to get your life back in order.

    • Al in MIA says:

      That’s true too, they want to establish that their program works.

  20. Mike E. says:

    Mets once again acquire Kelly Johnson from the Braves. I think the Braves should sign Kelly Johnson every season so the Mets can trade for him. 🙂

  21. steveccnv says:

    Was just watching highlights of Kiko and Maxwell, from right after the trade. It opened with what were they thinking in Miami. I haven’t heard any of those comments lately, now that the pendajos know these guys are system fits and have looked pretty good in OTAs.

  22. wyoming85 says:

  23. wyoming85 says:

  24. son of a son of a shula says:

    With Gabbert even I as a tanne-critic find this to be ridiculous.
    Oh boy here we go:

    http://slicemiami.com/2016/06/07/lacanfora-ryan-tannehill-blaine-gabbert/

  25. wyoming85 says:

  26. steveccnv says:

    NBA is fixed for several games of a series. LeBron was getting mugged inside in Oakland with very few fouls called, then Cleveland at home is getting all the calls. Same thing with the Toronto series, home team getting calls. Towards the end of a series they’ve achieved their goal, so they call it a little more fair for the road team.

  27. Rockphin says:

    Von Miller turned down $114m contract that would have been the largest non quarterback contract in history of the league. wow

  28. BoulderPhinfan says:

    Al,
    That might be the reason. Finishing certain classes etc to give a better showing.

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