Falcons and Dolphins go to Orlando – Preseason Game 3

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  1. Bridgewater looked primed for a big season.

  2. The Flying Pig says:

    steveccnv says:
    August 30, 2016 at 3:42 pm
    Just saw it and it sucks for us too. Now AFC teams that have to play the Vikings, and Cowboys may not have to face their starting QBs.

    ****

    Do you think anyone in the afc has to play both?

    2 different divisions so it seems slim to me but I haven’t checked

    • Tim Knight says:

      We can’t worry about that. We need to take care of our own business.

    • steveccnv says:

      Of course no AFC team can play them both, I should’ve said or. AFC teams play one entire NFC division, 4 teams only, on a rotating basis, so you play every team exactly once every four yrs.

  3. Rockphin says:

    Revis Island tore his knee on a non-contact play. (I think) DTgazillian broke his ankles on a play and he blew out his knee.

  4. Rockphin says:

    Matt Moore to the vikings for a 3rd round pick!

  5. Mike E. says:

    Matt Moore isn’t fetching a 3rd RD pick. I’d take a 5th RD pick though

  6. Tim Knight says:

    Well we know now that Vigil won’t be part of the 53 for at least 6 weeks of the season.

    So my picks for: Alonso, Jenkins, Misi, Paysinger, Hewitt, Hull and Burgess might be accurate. Though I won’t be surprised if it’s only 6.

  7. Ken says:

    Now is the time to trade Moore

  8. Randy says:

    Boy, everyone is always so quick to trade our veteran backup QB. What happens if Tannehill gets hurt? We have to go find a veteran backup QB. Makes no sense. You keep a guy like Moore for exactly the situation the Vikes find themselves in.

    • Tim Knight says:

      That’s a good point as well. Also the NFL does not make a lot of player trades because of contracts, yes it happens but it’s not a lot. it’s not like MLB.

      • Tim Knight says:

        That said I don’t think Dysert is a big drop-off from Moore. No he has never started a game but Moore went the undrafted route and had to start at some point. Dysert is a 4th year former 7th rd pick. He’s also more mobile than Moore.

    • steveccnv says:

      Dysert can play a little, he’s not in Moore’s class, but I’d do the trade if the compensation was below a 5th. I’m not giving up the QB insurance for a 5th or 6th. The team needing to make the trade has to pony up more than normal, because they’re desperate.

  9. getterdone says:

    Gase calls out Parker for nagging injuries
    Dolphins coach Adam Gase said DeVante Parker (hamstring) needs to do “the little things” off the field to stay healthy.
    Parker tweaked his left hamstring in Monday’s practice after missing several weeks of camp with a similar injury. “I feel like I’ve been through this with Demaryius [Thomas] in Denver,” Gase said. “Sometimes it takes some guys more time to learn more than others. Eventually … he will know how to push through certain kinds of pain.” Gase is clearly frustrated with the sophomore, who has fallen behind Kenny Stills on the depth chart

    • Tim Knight says:

      I watched him say that. It’s learning how to be a pro. But I think this is a lot of speculation. The top 3 WRs are Landry, Stills and Parker, who cares what order, we’ll be in that formation a lot? Parker just has to learn how to take care of his body better. DeVante!!!! Water!!!!!

  10. getterdone says:

    Dolphins coach Adam Gase conceded Tuesday that third-round pick Leonte Carroo “has got a little ways to go.”
    Gase mostly praised Carroo, commending him for his talent and work habits. But he also hinted at why Carroo hasn’t made a run yet for work in three-receiver sets. “He doesn’t know some of the things he needs to know to help himself,” said Gase. “That (comes) a little bit from experience.”

  11. steveccnv says:

    My dad (and brother) lived in Minnesota a few years ago, LOL transferred from Los Angeles. I could take or leave the Vikings, but my dad and brother like them as a sorragate team. The thing I feel sorry for them is it happening to Bridgewater this year, because of the new stadium.

  12. Mike E. says:

    I don’t remember if I picked Whalen or not. lol

    • steveccnv says:

      Son, Boulder, D, Twice, and I are the only ones that took him. Doubt he makes it after the news today on Stills and Parker.

      • Mike E. says:

        Thanks Steve. I can’t view it at work. I’ll have plenty of other misses on the roster though, I’m pretty sure of that

  13. D says:

    Cuts from some of the other teams, and people id entertain consideration for. for the PS. Bronson Kaufusi DE, Reese Dismukes, OC/OG, Lamin Barrow LB, Jason Fanaika LB, Brandon Browner CB (though he would have to be an active roster add), Andy Gallik OC/OG. I also wouldn’t mind adding Hazel back to PS if he is still eligible Barrow may also not be available for PS, not sure.

    • steveccnv says:

      A little surprised on Bronson Kaufusi DE, even though I thought he was a little stiff, but he made a lot of plays in college.

      • D says:

        He’s also a guy that can slide inside and play DT in certain formations, giving you an additional pass rush specialist. Id like to take a look at him and see if we couldnt develop him.

      • D says:

        Im also kinda surprised that Brandon Browner got cut, we could bring him back and pair him with his former teammate.

      • D says:

        We dont have much right now by way of a starter or a ton of depth either.

  14. steveccnv says:

    Is Trump flip flopping on immigration? Do people even know what that means? You have to take one side then the other then back to the original, Like Hilary with TPP. Trump may change his mind on things, but that’s what he’s always done in business. He evaluates the situation and if it needs to be adjusted, then that’s what he does. For example, when building a skyscraper, he keeps evaluating and if right now it makes sense to continue he continues, regardless of what he invested in it. He doesn’t throw good money at bad.

  15. Ken says:

    Randy: If Tannehill is injured and Moore is the starter would it really matter if Dysert is in there instead of Moore? Moore would do a lot better handing the ball off to AP than Jay Ajayi

    • steveccnv says:

      Moore looks like crap, but he gets the job done. If he had started the last 4 years I think we would’ve won more games, but it wouldn’t have led to anything. His ceiling is maybe 10-6 and a playoff win, RT’s ceiling is the sky, he’s probably never going to win us an SB, but his skills aren’t limited like Moore’s are.

  16. Rockphin says:

    So, how does the roster challenge work with positions? I mean, Paysinger is listed as Misi’s back up on the roster at LOLB but he may start at ROLB for Jenkins.

    Is as slot reciever a WR1 or WR2?

    • steveccnv says:

      We all pick 53 and the one with the most at any position right wins, tie breaker is Dolphins points on Thursday, but for you, you have to get the position correct too for it to count.

  17. BoulderPhinfan says:

    From what I’ve seen I really like whalen. I think he makes the team. I’m one of the only people that thinks we’re gonna keep 5 rbs. I think that’s wrong. I just didn’t know who to cut.

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      I also went with Gray instead of duarte which I think is wrong as well.

      • I flopped back and forth between Gray and Jones and Jones is what I’ve got listed but I wanted to go back to Gray but it was too late. Gray seemed to be doing pretty good on special teams and with blocking but Jones was the guy catching the passes. So, it all depends I guess in what they’re looking for in that #3 guy

  18. Rockphin says:

    Tannehill, Moore
    Parker, Caroo, Scott
    Landry, Stills, Grant
    Ajayi, Foster, Williams, Drake
    Cameron, Sims, Duarte
    Albert, Bushrod
    James, Young
    Steen, Pouncey
    Tunsil, Thomas
    Turner
    24

    Mitchell, Phillips
    Suh, Jones, Warmsly
    Williams, Jones,
    Wake, Branch, Fede
    Jenkins, Hewitt
    Alonso, Johnson
    Misi, Payslinger
    Maxwell, McCane
    Howard, Lippet, Chekwa
    Abdul-Quddus, Aikens, Thomas
    Jones, Gary
    27

    Darr
    Denny
    Franks

    So where am I officially wrong here so far?

  19. Rockphin says:

    Saturday, August 27, 2016
    Waived LB Akil Blount, OL Ruben Carter, LS Ryan DiSalvo, TE Gabe Hughes, PK Marshall Koehn, CB Al Louis-Jean, G Vinston Painter and WRs A.J. Cruz, Matt Hazel and Brandon Shippen. Released CB Brandon Harris.

    Tuesday, August 30, 2016
    Placed DE Dion Jordan and LB Zach Vigil on the reserve non-football injury list.MINNESOTA VIKINGS – Waived DE Theiren Cockran, Ts Sean Hickey and Austin Shepherd, TE Brian Leonhardt, DT Claudell Louis. WRs Marken Michel, Troy Stoudermire and Terrell Sinkfield, LB Terrance Plummer and QB Brad Sorensen. Released C John Sullivan. Waived/injured DT Scott Crichton and S Antone Exum, Jr. Placed G Mike Harris on the reserve/non-football illness list.

  20. Rockphin says:

    So far I don’t see anyone on my roster on this list of transactions.

  21. Randy says:

    Ken,
    I think folks under value Moore. He’s nothing special, but he is an experienced veteran that would, hopefully, at least not cost you games. I don’t think our record would be much different with Moore at QB. Dysert is completely untested, and nobody knows how he would perform over the long run. Moore, at least, has a track record the coaches can look to. My opinion isn’t really about Moore. It’s more about having experience at the position. Even with Tannehill, it’s not like we’ve been winning a lot of games.

    • Rockphin says:

      I don’t undervalue him. I think he is worth at least a 3rd to Minny.

    • If he went to Minnesota does he start over Hill. I doubt that. Hill has the offense down and when you compare both careers Moore’s done nothing special compared to Hill that would make him the better prospect for Minny.
      As a backup to Hill I also don’t think he’s worth a 3rd because once you get to the point where Minnesota’s at there’s very little in the way of hope that either Hill or Moore would get you into the playoffs.
      Teddy’s done for the season. So, Minnesota’s season is done at this point. They’re not going to do anywhere near as well as they would have with Bridgewater in there.
      In addition, Dysert knows Gase’s system as well as anyone on the roster and when you consider that Tannehill’s been healthy all four seasons you don’t concern yourself with the backup as much as you would otherwise. Either way, with Moore or Dysert, we’re going to see a guy holding a clipboard on the sideline. So, whether it’s Moore or Dysert as the #2 does it really matter if neither is going to see the field anyway

  22. Rockphin says:

    I am watching the replay of the NE / Car game and on a punt Ted Ginn got the ball and the announcer says ” Ted Ginn, a little basket catch, no blockers but the boundary was his friend.” and I couldn’t help but think “oh yeah, they are very old close friends.”

  23. getterdone says:

    Rock, you have a 54 man roster…automatic DISQUALIFICATION …next!

  24. BoulderPhinfan says:

    I feel bad for bridgewater. I like his game and hope he gets back. Feel bad for the viking fans. This has happened to them twice now.

  25. BoulderPhinfan says:

    turner would probably want a QB that’s played in his offense. Look for charger backups from a few years ago.

  26. getterdone says:

    I hope we trade Moore, he throws horrible INT’s…the game has seemed to pass him by already. I think he’d get ate up on the field.

  27. getterdone says:

    The Vikings announced Teddy Bridgewater suffered a completely torn ACL and dislocated left knee at Tuesday’s practice.
    This was the fear. Bridgewater also suffered “other structural damage,” and he’s obviously done for the season.
    Man I feel for him….that’s gonna be tough to ever get right.

  28. Kaufusi wasn’t released by the Ravens. There was an erroneous report that he and Stephan Nembott were both part of the cuts down to 75 but they were both placed on the IR.

  29. The Flying Pig says:

  30. Ken says:

    Randy:;
    I don’t think it really matters much if we have Moore or Dysert in there. I am not sure it matters much if Minn has Hill or Moore in there. I don’t think much of Hill and realistically think Minn’s chance are in the tank if he is under center. I think Moore offers them an upgrade but I am not sure that he makes them a playoff team.

    On the other hand I think Tannehill gives us a fighting chance to win and Moore wont cause us to implode but I think the chances of winning go down with him in there. He is probably better than Dysert but does it really matter because if Moore is the QB we are not winning that much anyways. If Minn would trade for Moore I am all for it. I don’t think they will but if they are interested we should deal.

  31. Ken says:

    Realistic QB options for Vikings that is not likely to cost them anything or anything significant:

    Zach Mettenberg
    Mark Sanchez
    Kaep
    Geno Smith
    Sam Bradford
    McCown
    Michael Vick

  32. herdfan says:

    getterdone says:
    August 30, 2016 at 8:48 pm (Edit)

    I hope we trade Moore, he throws horrible INT’s…

    Are there good ones? JK…. 😉

  33. son of a son of a shula says:

    If it’s week 15 and we’re in the playoff hunt and Tannehill goes down I want Moore over Dysert all day long.

  34. Ken says:

    So is Devante Parker the new Mrs Glenn?

  35. getterdone says:

    Stills is balling if he stays healthy, glad yesterday turned out to be ok for him.

  36. getterdone says:

    LOL @ Herd….ture, no such thing as a good INT….but ya knew what I meant.

  37. getterdone says:

    …for Tim & Mike E, yikes, I sure hope this is CGI ?

  38. getterdone says:

    Glad to see Gae as young as he is & a 1st time HC, not afraid to call out a #1 pick like Parker….let’s see if Parker accepts the challenge gauntlet that Gase threw down!
    It could make them both millions more now 😉

  39. steveccnv says:

    The team site shows Ekpre as reserved injured on the roster. Chris McCain is gone, so the list has been updated.

    What’s the magic number on this site of logins, before it will save it?

  40. The Eagles and Mychal Kendricks are not happy with one another. It appears the team has made a decision to play Kendricks thru all 4 qtrs. in the final preseason game and Kendricks isn’t happy with the decision.
    If they decide it’s time to cut him loose he’s a guy I’ve been talking about bringing to Miami since last year. With Jenkins continuing with his injuries it would be nice to have some additional depth at the LB position. Hewitt has been a pleasant surprise but Kendricks could be a nice addition to the LB unit.

  41. what actually makes Matt Moore more expendable isn’t Dysert; it’s the fact that Tannehill doesn’t get injured. You don’t need Moore when you’ve got a starter who doesn’t go down

    • olddolphan says:

      LOU; Given Miami’s current inexperienced and leaky O-Line, betting that Tannehill won’t get injured and miss plays/games this season is far from a sure thing. –In fact, I would not be surprised if Seattle’s defense (which took out Romo already) puts a few big knocks on young Ryan. If you want to get rid of Moore for lack of talent or performance, you’d better have someone else backing up Tanny who is AT LEAST AS GOOD AS MOORE!!
      ————-
      NONE OF US should ever forget the lessons of Earl Morrall. When Unitas got hurt early in Super Bowl V, Morrall came in and led the Colts to victory!! – -And, of course, without Morrall, THERE WOULD BE NO PERFECT SEASON!!! – – Backup quarterbacks are very important!

      • Seriously, is Moore that much better than Dysert? C’mon. In all honesty I don’t think anyone can say that Moore is so much better than Dysert that I would make that much of a difference in our season with him in there.
        Tannehill’s had the shit kicked out of him for four seasons now. Our o-line is getting better at pass protection. I’m not worried about Tannehill getting hurt. He’s a lot more durable than Romo and Romo being what he is getting hit by Seattle and getting injured isn’t a fair comparison to Tannehill’s durability.

      • steveccnv says:

        Lou, what NFL regular season or playoff game have you seen Dysert play in that makes you think he’s close to Moore?

      • Look at the way Dysert runs the offense. Gase brought him in for exactly that reason. Moore’s as good as gone.

  42. NFL Update ‏@MySportsUpdate · 2m2 minutes ago

    Former Browns DE Paul Kruger is signing with the Saints.

    • steveccnv says:

      Saints hurting on D, but that might be a nice pickup. Seems that when teams cut vets like this it’s done to dump the contract guarantee, and allows the player time to find another team. In other words Kruger most likely has something left in the tank. Watch Kruger beat out McCain, and we get no 7th for him

  43. Brian in NY says:

    The fact of the matter is if either Moore or Dysert is playing, we are fucked.

  44. steveccnv says:

    I can see us winning 10 games this year with Moore starting every game. Put him behind a good pass blocking line and he’s pretty good. RT has stats, great potential, but so far he’s missing the IT factor. When the game is on the line he doesn’t turn on that switch that says I can’t be stopped.

  45. something is wrong when I’m the one who’s complimenting tannehill

    • steveccnv says:

      I’m not down on him, I’m just stating what I’ve seen for 4 years. Down 5 with 2 minutes left, with the ball on our 20, my confidence level that we’re going to win hasn’t been high. Right now I’d say in that same situation the chances we’really going to win is pretty good, based on this preseason.

  46. My problem with the whole situation with Parker is this. I understand these are grown men and you shouldn’t need to hold their hands but by the same token you’re making an investment in these players and you’ve invested in sports science and nutrition and that “department” should be just like a coaching position.
    they brought in the rookies and used their mini camp to teach them how to be professionals but they apparently don’t spend the time with the guys who will be making the contribution every game. That’s poor.
    If I’m coaching this team and if I’m the owner and the GM I want to make sure these guys have their bodies in the best physical shape possible. All the players bodies should be at a point where they can go at peak performance and when the players come into the building first thing in the morning I’m going to make sure they have the proper nutrition to ensure that peak performance.
    Otherwise, you’ve got a first round pick who’s standing on the sidelines during camp instead of going out there and doing his job every day like he should be.
    I don’t understand how the team can let something like this happen.

  47. Let me just put this out there. If Dysert plays well in tomorrow’s finale I would expect the Phins to put Moore out there for a trade and my guess is we get a 6th for him.

  48. The Flying Pig says:

    I think everytime I see Moore play I feel like his play has declined

    It might just be a matter of repetitions
    but from a backup, you expect less repetitions and it should not hurt your play so much

    I would not trust Moore to win 10 games

    I’m okay trading him if the opportunity presents himself
    If we lose Tanny, I don’t think we will be very good
    even with Tanny I’m skeptical about winning 10 games

    If we can get a draft pick for Moore, I say go for it and look to develop your younger qbs in a backup role

    Plus – I think Lou mentioned it, Tanny has been pretty good at avoiding injury
    He’s very tough
    Some guys are just that kind of player

    Any freak injury can happen, but so far Tanny has proven to be pretty durable
    So I think taking a chance to develop young QB to be backups rather than clinging to a vet who hasn’t been spectacular is a good idea right now

    • Tim Knight says:

      That’s how I feel about Moore. In the PS over the last few years he hasn’t looked like a vet who’s ready to go and run the offense. He’s looked like a guy who’s nothing more than a backup and nothing special. I think we tend to overrate him. I was once in favor of his vet status over developmental QBs but I don’t feel that way anymore.

  49. Tim Knight says:

    I don’t think having some hamstring issues makes Parker soft. Nor does having a foot injury in college that carried over into his rookie season. Guys get injuries in this game. We tend to act like only our players get injuries. LOL

    • I don’t think it makes him soft either and the team teaching him to take care of his body so he can avoid these types of issues is something they should have been doing all along. Maybe they assumed he knew better because he was now a pro but you know what happens when you assume.
      I think they probably nipped it in the bud and like Gase said they’re teaching him to be a professional athlete now. That includes understanding how proper nutrition and hydration helps you avoid muscle spasms and cramps and things like hamstring issues.
      with that said, I wouldn’t expect it to be an issue going forward

  50. Buccaneers were in talks with Vikes to move Glennon. If that happens Moore to the Bucs would make sense because they’ve got little there with Griffin being the only backup remaining

  51. Tampa Live liked your Tweet

    1m: If Glennon is dealt to the Vikes, Moore to Tampa makes a lot of sense.
    _____
    see, even the people in Tampa like it

  52. Tim Knight says:

    This is hilarious. LOL

  53. Mike E. says:

    Looking forward to seeing what Kenyan Drake can do, and hopefully, he can actually stay healthy and give us some quality snaps.

  54. Tim Knight says:

    Maybe we should move the “Fallen Rock Zone” signs away from roads so the rocks know not to fall on vehicles. LOL

  55. Tim Knight says:

    Are they even going to get this game in tomorrow night with the weather hitting Florida?

  56. The Flying Pig says:

    Its an old joke
    I’m guilty of ripping it off myself

    She is laughing at them laughing at her
    Its a practical joke IMO

  57. The Flying Pig says:

    No Tim
    it wasn’t
    In mine it was the mediocre white suggesting to the city council that they move the signs to save deer lives
    and the council did it
    and deer deaths increased by 800% the next year

  58. sb7mvp says:

    The thing with Matt Moore is that he’s not suited for this or any offense that we’ve had in the last few years. That’s why he hasn’t looked good.

  59. steveccnv says:

    So Lou, you can see it in the way Moore plays in preseason? Wow

  60. steveccnv says:

    I think Pig has the right idea on the deer crossing lady, no indication was made that she wasn’t all there. No one could be that stupid, without mental issues.

  61. Randy says:

    Moore is what he is…an average nfl backup. What you want from guys like that is the experience and good decision making ability not to lose games for you. If they go out and blow it up, great…but that’s not the benefit of a veteran QB who’s actually played in the NFL. They give NFL coaches some sense of security. They want a guy they can trust to play within themselves and the offense. Young/inexperienced guys are usually more of a risk.
    ****
    Assessing Moore from his limited playing time over the past few years or PA action is pointless. All everybody ever focuses on are the INTs. Backups don’t get the practice time starters do, so they’re timing and everything else will take some time to normalize. How he plays in short notice/emergency situations isn’t going to be the same as how he plays if asked to come in and play multiple games b/c then he’ll get the reps in practice and improve…hopefully!
    ***
    He’s hung on thru multiple coaching staffs. I assume there’s a reason for that. He must show them something they like on the practice field and in the classroom.

  62. Randy says:

    And I can’t believe I just wrote that much about our backup QB. Lol

  63. Tim Knight says:

    Randy, there are a bunch of teams with vet starting QBs and young backups though. In the big scheme of things I’m not anti-Moore or anything but I wouldn’t be surprised if we went in another direction this year.

    • To me it’s not so much about Moore as it is about Dysert. He was brought in from CHI after being with Gase in his last two stints an he’s a younger qb option who’s been showing a good command of the offense and he’s moving the ball when he’s in there.
      He did very well as the #2 vs Atlanta, running the ball and throwing accurately on the run.
      I don’t see any drop off from Moore to Dysert at this point and with his experience playing in Gase’s offense I’d say he’s a shoe in.
      If he were a qb brought into camp just to have a 4th guy to throw the ball around it would be a different story but I don’t think that’s the case.

  64. Tim Knight says:

    Oh man there are reports that Bridgewater’s injury was so bad that he almost lost his leg. Ugh! I feel really bad for him. His road to recovery is going to be very difficult. Think of Dustin Keller, he never made it back.

  65. Randy says:

    Tim,
    I’m not pro or con Moore. I’m just saying he must have some value…or he wouldn’t still be on the team. He’s not a guy you just gotta have on your team, but I do think you can win with him. Young QBs have more risk…simply because they’re more of an unknown commodity. I think coaches are usually more comfortable with the known.

  66. Randy says:

    Tim,
    Yep, that’s true.

  67. wyoming85 says:

    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 34m34 minutes ago
    Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers and James Harrison cleared in NFL’s PED investigation.

  68. wyoming85 says:

    Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero 1h1 hour ago
    Saints add Paul Kruger for pass rush purposes. Chris McCain spot on that roster not so secure. Dolphins conditional pick also not.

  69. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, guys have to play at some point for the first time. Dysert is in his 4th season. Look at how many teams are playing young QBs right out of the gate. I’m not sure it’s that big a deal.

    • steveccnv says:

      Maybe not, but we’ve had enough bad seasons this decade, I don’t want to see another one, because we were enamored by a 7th Rd pick in 2017. What has Dysert done to make you think he’s ready to be 2nd string?

      • you’re talking like we’re going to have a bad season because of who our 2nd string qb is and it’s just silly. tannehill’s the starter. who cares is Dysert is the 2nd string qb? If Tannehill stays healthy all year we should have a good season. If not, we’re screwed no matter who the 2nd string guy is.

  70. steveccnv says:

    Dysert was a rookie in 2013, so behind Peyton we know he didn’t get any PT. 2014 Broncos PS, 2015 cut by Donkies, signed to Bears PS, for a week, then went to other teams PS. Hasn’t ever played, so Lou you sure have a funny way of backing your point

  71. steveccnv says:

    I like Dysert, but I’m not ready to see him in a real game yet, same with Doughty.

  72. sb7mvp says:

    I’m with Lou on the Dysert tip.

  73. Gheesh! Tannehill started 16 games in college and we gave him the reigns. Wilson never started an NFL game and was drafted in the 3rd rd and Seahawks made him the starter. Luck never started an NFL game and started immediately.
    We’re talking about a 2nd string qb and it’s like it’s the end of the world. LMFAO!!

  74. steveccnv says:

    Gase was with Dysert for a week in Chicago and 2 years in Denver, do we know he’s not just doing a favor for a friend? I’ll bring you to camp and give you a shot. Dak has lit it up and they aren’t sure if he’ll be able to handle it when the bullets go live.

    • Do you think the Vikes are shitting bricks right now? Nobody wants to see their starter go down and there’s probably not a team out there who’s got a 2nd string guy who’s going to come in and do the same job their starter would do for them. Not happening.

      • steveccnv says:

        We have one, and you want to throw it away for a late round pick. Jets had one last year, as did the Texans.

      • steveccnv says:

        The Vikings are shitting bricks, the coach called off practice and cried for hours😃

  75. bookman11 says:

    I know one thing…

    If I want to know how Steve feels about something, I will just assume it is the complete opposite of Lou’s..and vise versa..LOL

  76. steveccnv says:

    Yes Tim guys have to play at some point, but we’ve been amongst the youngest teams in the league for far too long. Depth on D line has exp, so does the OL. We’ve been there done that with the young guys, let’s actually try to win some games this year.

  77. To me, Dysert’s the better player at this time. Moore wasn’t drafted and got a chance to play when an injury happened in Carolina. Otherwise, he probably would have never started there either. Same thing with his time in Miami. Sooner or later you may need your backup to step in and play in the regular season. The fact that Moore got that playing time and Dysert didn’t is a moot point to me.
    Dysert plays well in the next preseason game and shows the same command of the offense he showed vs Atlanta and Moore is probably gone. Maybe not. Maybe Phins would rather have the 3 qb depth on the roster other teams don’t have.

    • steveccnv says:

      Lol QB experience doesn’t matter, and the fact that you brought up the fact that Moore wasn’t drafted, when Dysert was a 7th. 4th preseason games are fools gold when rating players.

  78. Tim Knight says:

    I think I heard something about team records with backup QBs a year ago and it was a really bad winning pct. It came up in a discussion because the backup QB become fan favorites when their starters have a bad game or a couple of bad weeks. Very few teams are loaded at QB if any.

    • steveccnv says:

      Loaded? Salary cap doesn’t allow it. Garapolo may be the best backup, but only because of their system and king cheat.

  79. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, it’s not about what I think Dysert has done. I’m saying I won’t be surprised if Gase goes that way. It will be a team decision. 🙂

    • steveccnv says:

      After so much talk about it I wouldn’t be surprised either way. Moore came back to play for us this year on the cheap, relative to what he was making, so it’s not like he’s that expensive. Last time I checked we were $18M under the cap. Moore always looks like crap, then he puts 21 pts like nothing.

  80. steveccnv says:

    I don’t see John making the team, because he plays LT, and we have 4 better ones on the starting OL, that will play it before he does. I thought he played well, it may be the wrong year for him, he probably makes last yrs team.

  81. Randy says:

    Lou,
    Do you really think Tannehill’s going to become a difference maker…a guy who actually wins games for you and not just a guy who doesn’t lose them? Is this confidence just because of Gase? It would be a big change for him.

  82. Randy says:

    I’m just getting around to reading Gase’ comments about Parker. Wow, you rarely if ever see coaches doing that. I like it! Parker must be really pissing him off. Lol

  83. Randy says:

    piggy,
    You rarely see coaches motivating players with those sorts of comments in the media. It’s surprising.

  84. getterdone says:

    steveccnv says:
    August 31, 2016 at 10:22 am
    I can see us winning 10 games this year with Moore starting every game. Put him behind a good pass blocking line and he’s pretty good. RT has stats, great potential, but so far he’s missing the IT factor. When the game is on the line he doesn’t turn on that switch that says I can’t be stopped.
    Reply

    OMG steve, seriously? What, don’t ell me….you’re the deer crossing lady’s husband right? 😉

  85. Tim Knight says:

    If you watched what Gase said about Parker it wasn’t that critical. More like he and his coaches need to do a better job dealing with him.

    • getterdone says:

      Media tries to spin it like it was critical….more like hey, you’re a Pro now, the protocol is different and if you don’t follow it, then these things happen….trust & stick by the program we set in place for you.
      Word was he was skipping too many breakfasts and now hydrating correctly….so they’ve assigned him a nutritionist to monitor him more closely until he gets the pro regimine down.
      If anything it shows the love for his value, hey we need you to do this so it shows up on game day as it did in practices and vise versa.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yep! It’s okay for people to learn and get better, especially young people. The media tries to paint everything as a work habit issue etc. when that’s not really going on. He’s 23 years old. LOL

      • getterdone says:

        Hell, I’m still learning new things and ways to do them every year….why be stagnant?
        Gase looks to be good for this team, I really like his demeanor for different situations. He seems like a cool as a cucumber cat….he could have a long future if he stays true to that.

  86. Tim Knight says:

    GD, I think a lot of people feel that way about Gase but as we know, the W/L category decides his fate.

    The Seattle game will tell us a little bit about where we’re at as a team to start. That’s a tough environment against a top team the last few years. We’ll see how we handle it.

    • getterdone says:

      Gase will get the Wins in due time….I see him as the type that players buy into….he’s already shown this in some ways on the coordinator level. Also seems other coaches buy into him, yet he’s been said to be flexible and buy into them, able to listen and draw a collaborative effort when needed. Those are great qualities and hard to master.
      We’ll see…….

  87. Randy says:

    I don’t think it was extremely critical…just not the norm for NFL coaches.

  88. son of a son of a shula says:

    Dallas being winless in 12 games with a backup quarterback may have skewed last years numbers for backups even though historically it is probably still bad. The rookie in Cincinnati did well.

  89. The Flying Pig says:

    Sitting here in the sidewalk in a busy street of NYC
    Waiting for cops to arrive
    Bc I called them
    There is homeless guy sleeping in the medium

  90. steveccnv says:

    Rating the backup QBs

    5. Dolphins
    Depth chart: Matt Moore, Brandon Doughty
    Is this too high? It might be. The closest Moore came to starting a game since 2011 (12 starts) was when Joe Philbin threatened to yank Ryan Tannehill against the Raiders in Oakland and insert his backup. Man, that feels so long ago. He’s 31 now and has served faithfully as the backup to Tannehill through five coaches now. Tony Sparano and Todd Bowles in 2011, Joe Philbin, Dan Campbell and now Adam Gase. He’s not going to magically become a late-blooming superstar, but he feels like a really safe floor for Miami if something happens to Tannehill.

    Let’s throw all of that away for a late round pick. Wow! Doughty ahead of Dysert, that aint happening.

  91. getterdone says:

    LMAO @ Hildabeast beside herself with jealousy that Donald took the invite to Mexico that she declined and made himself look good on the world stage. Man, she’s spitting flames now….lol

  92. The Flying Pig says:

    Lol @ Trump Supporters

    • getterdone says:

      Sorry Fox, but you’re no longer the presidente!

    • steveccnv says:

      LOL at Pig, what do you expect him to say?

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I think you miss the point

        Why would trump go to Mexico
        You guys are celebrating it

        It’s just trump theatrics – which is his thing

        “Hey look at me, I met with the Mexican president. Hillary doesn’t meet with the Medan president”.

        What did trump accomplish?
        The current president insists he won’t pay for a wall
        Was there even a discussion about it?

      • steveccnv says:

        Wow, that’s what you took from it.

  93. The Flying Pig says:

    He is saying the first thing he told trump is he would not pay for a wall

    In case you were wod wrong so I guess that was what was agreed to ?

  94. The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t want you to join Clinton GDP
    I want you to vote for Gary Johnson not a reality star passing himself off as a diplomat

    • getterdone says:

      I liked Gary Johnson last election in 2012, but since have saw him say and do things that signal he’s another establishment hack hiding under the libertarian label. I rather another true libertarian candidate.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Trump is not a true libertarian by any stretch of the imagination

        He is not a small govt cut spending guy which is pretty much the core of libertarian principles

        We wouldn’t be talking about erecting a wall if he was that guy

        It’s amazing to me that yo can call a 3rd party candidate the “establishment” given what 3rd party’s are up against

        But I won’t even touch that one of you feel that way

      • getterdone says:

        I never said I think Trump is a classic libertarian….but he’s demonstrated many ‘anti-establishment’ ways that has the elites freaking out….that’s what I want….even if the guy has orange hair and look like howdy doody after being beat silly by bozo the clown.

        ….and yes, generally a 3rd party candidate is anti-establishment, but Gary seems as if a few have gotten to him and drew him into their circle in a subtle way….ie., he said he would vote for TPP for starters….

  95. getterdone says:

    Mexico City-based security analyst Alejandro Hope suggested that Pena Nieto “wanted to invite Hillary, but that meant inviting both of them, and nobody thought Trump would accept first.”

  96. Yeah, the more I think about it the more I really feel that the plan from the start was to bring in Dysert to compete with Moore and if he did well enough they’d be looking to replace Moore. Dysert’s younger and has more upside at this point and doesn’t cost as much.
    Doughty is a developmental guy that has a lot of upside as well and is another young player who the team can groom into a solid backup.
    I don’t know if Moore will be traded or cut but I doubt he’s here for the entire season.

  97. Two words to end the argument for having a backup quarterback with regular season experience:
    JOSH FREEMAN

    • steveccnv says:

      Way to go to the extreme, I could say the same thing about a rookie and mention Marinovich. It proves nothing, why do you think they take out the top and bottom scores in the Olympics?

  98. sb7mvp says:

    We need help on defense that a trade for Moore could provide.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t see it as a player for player trade

      Probably a draft pick

      But if they managed to move Moore for a CB, I won’t squeal

  99. sb7mvp says:

    Trump is not antistablishment. He is the establishment elite. Why do people keep calling him that?

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I feel the same

      I don’t get the antiestablishment are for trump

    • getterdone says:

      LOL, you always have funny zingers.

    • there is NO politician, be it Trump, Clinton or anyone else, who is going to “Make America Great Again”. The people of this country are what makes the country great. Politicians have never made the country great.
      However, I DO NOT want a President who will continue to increase the size of gov’t and the national debt and that’s what both Clinton and Trump will do. Gary Johnson is the only candidate who WILL decrease the size of the federal gov’t and that’s one thing that must be done in the short term. Gov’t is too big, it’s got it’s hands in way too many things and we need someone who will tell the federal gov’t “cool your jets”

    • and, you CANNOT have an effective economic policy if reducing the size of gov’t isn’t part of your policy. it’s not possible.

      • steveccnv says:

        That’s opinion not fact.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Neither of the 2 major parties take cutting spending seriously at all

        Its a lot easier to win a primary or an election for that matter without telling the American people you are going to take away their credit card

        It’s a shame
        I don’t know what the solution for that is

  100. getterdone says:

    Donald does continue to grow the size of his audiences….so I guess Lou was partly right about continuing to grow. 😉

  101. I cut the bushes down in front of my house so Steve can’t hide in them and jump out.

  102. The Flying Pig says:

    It will cost between 400 billion and 600 billion to deport all illegal immigrants

    https://www.americanactionforum.org/research/the-budgetary-and-economic-costs-of-addressing-unauthorized-immigration-alt/

    • getterdone says:

      Quite a snafu the past 2+ admins have put the country in isn’t it?

      • The Flying Pig says:

        It goes back farther than the last 2 presidents

        Our immigration laws are actually stricter than ever

        I feel like there is something on the Statue of Liberty that welcomes immigrants

        It’s kinda a tradition in America
        It didn’t start recently
        It has just been politicized recently

      • If you to take a look at the majority of undocumented immigrants in this country they are law abiding citizens looking for a better way of life. they live and work here and just need a job. better to get them documented so they can pay taxes like the remainder of the working society in this country so they can contribute in some way to the health care and other benefits they receive.
        As for the crime part, it’s interesting that California has the largest % of illegals in the country yet their prisons are disproportionately filled up with U.S. citizens. If illegals were truly criminals you would think they would represent a higher % of the prison population but that’s just not true.

  103. getterdone says:

    Piggy,
    Good point, but immigrants were brought in to Ellis Island to be vetted and brought skills and work ethics, with a very low percentage of crime or terrorist intentions. They didn’t ask for hand outs, just a hand up to prove themselves and assimilate into american cities….most of those very immigrants were proud to learn the culture, language, and become legal citizens and call themselves Americans too.

    Not so much with the uncontrolled chaos on our borders nowadays.

    • not true about the crime. where do you think the crime families came from?

    • The Flying Pig says:

      There are no Mexican, central and/or South Americans coming in to this country to be terrorists

      I can quote you a lot of stats that says the contrary about immigrants coming in now to this country

      But I know it won’t make a difference to this belief

      What you are describing doesn’t represent that vast majority of illegal immigrants

      Trump is simply using this stereotype to get people riled up

      I never understand how people can accuse people crossing the borders of demanding hand outs but taking jobs of Americans at the same time
      But those two things are said by the same people every day even though they complete contradict one another

      These ridiculous stereotypes aren’t filed by facts or even logic
      They are field by fear
      And congrats to trump for capitalizing on it

      • steveccnv says:

        You’re doing the same thing you’re accusing Trump of doing. Don’t you think that between the millions and millions of illegal aliens some are getting handouts, some want to work, taking jobs from those here legally, because they work for less, and some are criminals?

  104. The Flying Pig says:

    See I don’t only have negative things to say about trump

    Here I am letting people know he has been endorsed by some public figures

  105. How many acts of terrorism have been committed in our country by someone who wasn’t a U.S. citizen or a “domestic” terrorist.
    The shootings in Orlando for instance, were done in the name of ISIS but weren’t actually carried out by ISIS itself.
    If terrorists coming across the U.S./Mexico border was that easy wouldn’t we have seen more attacks from terrorist who came into the country illegally and weren’t even known about instead of people that have come here using normal means like flying here on a plane and living here in the U.S. and even being on an FBI watchlist?
    Would you really want to be calling attention to yourself?

    • U.S. citizens have committed 80 percent of the terrorist attacks since 9/11.

      Of the 28 deadly homegrown terrorist attacks, only 10 of those attacks were related to Islamic extremism. The other 18 attacks were led by right-wing extremists, including, most recently, the mass shooting that killed three and wounded nine at a Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

      ______
      if the border was so easy for terrorists to come across why aren’t they coming here and bombing the shit out of us?

    • the point is terrorism is “homegrown” in more ways than one. it’s used to create fear in the American people that allows interests such as the Military Industrial complex to do what they want any time they want.
      It gives our President carte blanche to go into other countries in the name of national security and kill innocent women and children with drones.
      and it makes people rich. there’s no money in peace. before 9/11 our gov’t was looking at decreasing military spending and the number of military bases in this country. how do you make money in that environment? you don’t
      so, you create a perpetual war, a war that’s never ending. we don’t have leaders of other countries like Hitler who are hell bent on dominating the world anymore. they know it would be impossible to do so. so, we create an enemy in terrorists and terrorism that allows us to constantly be at war without blaming other countries. we blame radical terrorist groups instead.
      And, if you go back to when George Bush was the head of the CIA that’s when it all started.

  106. getterdone says:

    Piggy, I get your point on immigrants from latin countries coming with good intentions, but mixed with those good people are drug cartels, gangs, and non latinos (muslims, russians, chinese, you name it flooding across an unchecked border. That’s not right!!!!

    You ever try to sneak into Mexico? You’ll get time in prison and might come back alive one day. Why can’t people see the logic in trying to stop what’s been grossly neglected. Trump never said no latinos or immigrants from any country can never come here again…i mean c’mon with the MSM sound bites and narratives paid for by elitists like Soros, etc., who don’t want what’s good for ‘American Citizens’ !

    • The Flying Pig says:

      You can prosecute and deport criminals from crime
      You don’t have to prosecute people for being immigrants

    • Look at the crime in Chicago right now. I wonder how many of those involved are illegal immigrants and how many are opportunistic, entrepreneurial American citizens.

      • getterdone says:

        …..another issue of ongoing failed policies and programs meant to create division & disparity.
        No one ever said all crime is from immigrants….smh

        Why do other countries have borders, tough laws, yet if Americans want to secure their border, they’re suddenly racists….lol….hypocrisy at it’s finest.

      • I’m all for a logical solution. building a wall that won’t stop them from coming isn’t the answer.

      • all crime isn’t from immigrants. as a matter of fact, the majority of crime is from U.S. citizens but people act like it’s from immigrants.
        Trump is using an old political tool to get people all excited about an issue in order to gain support and people fall for it. Illegal immigrants aren’t coming across the U.S./Mexico border by the thousands and murdering and raping our people and committing terrorist acts but Trump has gotten a good number of people to buy into it. This is how you do it when you want to get elected. Create an issue that’s not real and make it real in the minds of millions of people

  107. The Flying Pig says:

    The US Justice Depart filed a suit in 1973 for housing discrimination against trump

    In 1989 he was accused of racism when he published a full page ad In The ny times calling for the death penalty for a group of teenagers accused of raping and beating a jogger (and they probably deserve that IMO)

    His former aid (John Odonnell) wrote a book in 1991 that alleged he stated he didn’t black people counting his money

    Go ahead and google any of those things and you will find that information which occurred well before he threw his hat in the political ring

    This isn’t new for him
    It is not just bc he is running against a democrat

    He’s just in the public eye more than ever now
    And people are taking a look at him

    I never heard anyone accuse McCain of being a racist
    I never bought into it if they did
    I’m not a huge fan of class warfare in politics
    And with race I hate it

    But Trump…he has earned it IMO

    • getterdone says:

      OMG, such weak arguments counselor…. how dare he not be perfect in the yes of everyone or how dare he ever have opponents bring accusations of ‘alleged’ behavior…what a horrible man….smh….I’m done with the silliness for tonite gents…got work early.

      Go Phins! 🙂

  108. If there ever is a WWIII I live in the safest place in this country you could live in. NEPA. Because everything happens here 30 yrs after it happens everywhere else.

  109. Why is it every time I get a notice from SingleParentsMeet.com about my top 5 matches those 5 women look like 6 pack a day smoking, Jack Daniel’s drinking beaten down old broads.

  110. stangerx says:

    J Walker on the top bubble guys to watch tonight. Sorry to see him even mention Doublas.
    ———————–
    Some key bubble players to keep an eye on include running back Damien Williams, receivers Griff Whalen and Rashawn Scott and offensive linemen Sam Young and Jamil Douglas against Tennessee.

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