Ask Mike -2016 Season Week 12

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from Doggy

Q – Hi Mike,

Will Tony Romo be the starting QB for the 49‘ers,  NY Jets or the back up in Dallas next season ?

I’d be surprised if the Jets went hard after Romo. His health concerns just don’t allow a team to make a major investment in him. If they were able to get him really cheap, and then have Bryce Petty waiting in the wings, it’s possible, but Romo won’t be doing that.

For the same reason, I don’t think SF will be going after Romo. The guy is more fragile than Chrystal Chandelier (Chris Chandler QB ATL) was back in the 80’s. Romo can’t stay on the field, and definitely can’t take a hit. I do believe he’s going to end up right back in Dallas, as the backup. It;s not the ideal situation for him, and I’m sure he didn’t envision his career ending like that, but the fact that he’s just so delicate these days sealed his fate. At least he gets to stay where he’s appreciated, and collect a big fat paycheck while staying healthy, and holding a clipboard.
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from Stanger

Q – As exciting as the winning streak is, most of them were 4th qtr comebacks against not so good or average teams.

New clutch era for us that is the beginning of a future dynasty down the road or did the cards just fall right?

stanger

PS — you going to be conflicted with Kaep in there on Sunday?  

How quickly we forget!! Ask Mike already pointed out that the first 2 wins were against teams that were hot, especially the Pittsburgh Steelers, who were 4-1, and considered by many to be a contender for a SB bid. Then we beat the red hot Bills, who at the time, were 4-2, and playing good football. We then faced the NY Jets, who at the time had won 2 in a row. Should we call it the “Dolphins Denouement”? The Steelers have gone 1-3 since losing to the Dolphins. The Bills have gone 1-2 since playing the Dolphins, and the Jets 0-1. You lose to the Dolphins, and the season goes down the drain!

OK, the Chargers aren’t great (4-6), and the Jets aren’t either, but both teams were more than capable of beating us, and in years past, they likely would have, but we’re a different team, with a different leader, one that has the team believing, and buying in. The Rams also aren’t a great team, and it looked like they were going to beat 2 AFC East teams consecutively in 2 ugly, poorly played games, but we rose from the ashes at crunch time, and secured a win with some gutsy play from our team.

We’re far from a dynasty, but we’re going about things the right way. We need to keep putting young talent on both the O-line and the D-line. I like the way Lippett is developing, and if Xavien Howard can come back and stay healthy, that’s a decent CB tandem. Byron Maxwell is playing very well right now, much better than he played early in the season. We’re starting to get depth at a position we all thought could be a weakness.

At LB, that’s a place where we probably need to add talent. After seeing what Kiko Alonso can do, he’s been a big part of our defense, I would think we’ll do our best to keep him here in Miami, but he’s a free agent next season, so that’s up in the air. I love the pieces we have on our offense. We have a legit RB, and a couple of capable backups with different skill sets. Damien Williams can spell for a few carries here and there, and also runs hard, and has proven to be a pretty damn good receiver out of the backfield. Kenyan Drake has speed to burn, and he’s the type of guy who who can take it to the house on any play, but he’s not a workhorse back either, so the health of Ajayi is key. I wouldn’t want to hand over the reins to either Williams or Drake, but they both complement him well.

Our coach is the key, he’s made the difference, and will continue to do so. We found our guy, and that’s HUGE! As for the 49ers QB, my days of Kaepersniffing are over. I’m long over him, I like where we’re at with #17.
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from Ken

Q – Is it safe to start talking about playoff possibilities or are we just setting ourselves up to have our hearts ripped out again?

Ken

I could write in every post, and every article that I’m not really thinking about the playoffs, just looking at winning this week and taking it from there, but I’m really thinking about the playoffs! I don’t think it’s possible not to. We’re all scoreboard watching, standings watching, to see the various ways we can make it in to the post season. Of course with hope Ken, there sometimes comes disappointment.

I think we’re ALL enjoying this ride, every game in the last 5 have been very enjoyable to watch, so for that I’m thankful. Starting 1-4, I didn’t really think that would be possible. Funny thing that Thanksgiving is today, and I think as Dolphins fans, we have much to be thankful for!

It seems we have finally found the right Head Coach in Adam Gase, and that alone should have us thanking the football gods. That’s a great start to having a competitive team for a decade or so, maybe longer if he proves he can adapt well. It’s now NFL Week 12, the Dolphins are 2 games above .500, and in the hunt for the post season. That’s exciting as hell! Another exciting thing is this team has found different ways to win. That’s a good T-E-A-M. We’re not just waiting for the QB to lead us to victory, or the DL to get 4 sacks, or the CB’s to get 3 INT’s, or the RB to get 200 yards, or the PR/KR to bring one all the way back for a TD, we’ve done them ALL! To me, that’s the best aspect of this team, is that we can win in various different ways, with contributions from every unit on the team.

Enjoy playoff watching for as long as it lasts. That’s what I say. If we don’t make it, but we go 10-6, of course it will be disappointing, but there will be good things due to the fact we’ll have a bright future to look forward to. If we make the playoffs, but get knocked out in the 1st RD, sure, that will be disappointing. There’s plenty of ways to be disappointed, but go ahead, keep playoff watching, and as long as we keep winning, there ain’t no good reason not to!
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from Wyo

Q – So now that we have a winning record and seem to be set up for more wins this year . . .

Are the just win folks going to come around? (not the real question)
 
Tanny was always slow on his reads causing him to hold the ball. What has changed?  More time? Better clock in his head?

I think it’s combination of things Wyo. I think Gase has emphasized to Tannehill time and time again not to hold on to the football too long, to be aware of his surroundings, and protect the football. I think mostly, it’s just been better protection by the O-line. He’s always looked very good when he has time, and he’s obviously been practicing those touch throws, because he’s made a few beauties this season. Maybe it’s just been a matter of teaching properly, and not taking for granted that Tannehill should have known this or that, and reinforcing the things he did poorly. Whether Gase is actually a QB whisperer or not is unimportant. Maybe he’s just a good teacher. I think there’s a definite level of respect between our QB and our HC, and I think they both believe in each other, and it’s showing. Gase is finding ways to utilize Ryan’s  strengths, and minimize his weaknesses. He’s done that well, but again, I give most of the credit to the O-line.

The success of the O-line, and that means run blocking too of course, has allowed us to have a balance in our offense that we just haven’t had. Thankfully, Gase realizes that if you run it 20 times in the 1st half, whether successful or not, it doesn’t mean you shelve it in the 2nd half. We’ve stayed with the run game, and it’s put a few teams to bed in the 2nd half, which is completely the opposite of a Philbin/Lazor led team. Last week was good, because we didn’t kill it with the running game, and we labored in the pass game all game, until the end, and Tannehill made the plays he couldn’t make in the first 3 quarters, and the receivers made the plays, and O-line allowed all that to happen, so a great team win.
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from Rock

Q – Hello Mr. Hand!  Here is my question:
 
With the team riding a 5 game winning streak in which all the facets of the team are stepping up and showing marked improvement, why do you think some “fans” cannot concede that all the players are stepping up and playing better?  The team, most fans and the media are in general agreement that Ryan Tannehill is playing much better football this year, even with having to learn an unfamiliar system again and get on the same page as the other players and coach in it. What personality characteristic do you think causes these “fans” to insist on belittling a player when it seems everyone else is in agreement that there has been marked improvement?

Hey Rock, the answer to your question is because we’re human. I’ll elaborate. Think of fans of a football team like voters in a Presidential election. There can be 100 people that are registered Democrats. 25 of them are going to vote for Hillary because they agree with her social issues. 25 are going to vote for her for because they like her economic agenda. 25 are going to vote for her because she’s sexy. OK, that’s not happening, so let’s say they vote for her because of her foreign policy issues. The other 25 have a mix of all of the above, but it’s possible that no 2 of the 100 are the same.

Dolphins fans, and fans in general, have their own agendas. They pick certain players they either like, or dislike, make absolute statements about them, and then root for their opinions to be right. Some fans just blindly root for all of the players that wear that the uniform. Some don’t like players that make the highest salary, and others just root for the underdogs. My point is, we all want the Dolphins to do well, but there are subcategories, some fans also want the team to do well, or fail.

I’m not going to name names, because anyone who regularly reads this blog knows who  you’re referring to, and as much as I disagree with that person, especially when the team is doing well, that’s his prerogative to feel that way, and for the most part, I’ll try to ignore those specific comments. Nothing wrong with wanting to be right, and I’d say all of us here have had our hits and misses, I thought Jonathan Martin was going to be a great NFL tackle for us. UGH! I also said we shouldn’t sign Jordan Cameron, so like I said, hits and misses.

It’s OK though, we all root for the same team, and ultimately want the team to do well, and enjoy and share their success, but there’s actually another type of fan that prefers to wallow in misery, and is happier complaining about the teams failure rather than celebrating their success. I’ll leave those to the professional psychologists.  🙂
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from Howie

Q – Ive got one for you MikeE
(SORRY i CANT MAKE MY E-MAIL WORK)
When was the last time a single team played three California teams in a row and beat them Back to back to back?
GO FINS!

I have to say Howie, that question stumped me. I tried to find information regarding this, but odds are, this is an unprecedented situation, where the Dolphins are facing 3 teams from California in a row. No matter what type of query I put in, I couldn’t find where an NFL team played 3 California teams in a row. Until proven incorrect, I’m going to say if the Dolphins find a way to win against the SF 49ers, they will be the first NFL team to defeat 3 consecutive teams from the state of California.

If you think about it, I doubt that any other NFL team has actually played 3 games in a row against teams from the state of California, let alone won all of them.

Thanks for the excellent question Howie, it’s certainly a good one! Admittedly, I’m not quite sober, my boys are back from college, and I declared this Family Crunk Drunk night, and I’m pretty sure at least 3 of us accomplished that. It’s now 1:14 AM, and I’ve sobered up some, so I think this is relatively coherent.

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I wish all of you a Happy Thanksgiving!  I hope you all enjoy family, friends, food and drink, and have safe travels to wherever you’re going.

And now for the babe of the week . . .

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274 Responses to Ask Mike -2016 Season Week 12

  1. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

  2. ukfinfan's avatar ukfinfan says:

    Happy thanksgiving everyone.

    Just one point on the subject of Wyo’s Q about Tanny – at 10-0 down with 20′ left in the third at the Rams, it was 2nd & 10. He dropped back to the 5, bounced up to the 8/9 yard line looking for a pass. It wasn’t there. A safety screamed towards him head on (he couldn’t miss seeing him) and 2 D linemen were tracking across. He had ages to throw it away. He should have, but started to run into the tackles/went foetal). We lost yardage on the play and I was using Mike E language. He should not be making these mistakes still. It’s a small point and it was a great comeback, but he could be so much better then he is if he could improve lots of small aspects of his game. He is doing so and winning me over but there’s still plenty of room for improvement. He will remain under scrutiny because almost every play on O goes through his hands.

    This resurgence is amazing and I hope it continues.

    #Fins pride

  3. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    Happy Thanksgiving!

  4. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    Good job this week Mike, and an even better job bringing the BOTW to this century!

  5. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Mike E and I have different taste in women. Well except for his wife of course. I think she is kind of hot.

  6. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    Andrew Abramson ✔@AbramsonFL
    Dolphins, currently the 7th seed, make the playoffs every other presidential election year. 1984, 1992, 2000, 2008… 2016?

  7. 81Howie's avatar 81Howie says:

    Thanks for trying MikeE
    I’m sure we’ll find out more when we win
    GO PHINS!!!

  8. 81Howie's avatar 81Howie says:

    Oh Look
    Devante Parker made the front page of NFL.com

  9. 81Howie's avatar 81Howie says:

    HAPPY THANKSGIVING
    DOLPHINS-49’ERS
    Rhino 27-17 MIA
    Piggy 42-10 MIA
    Vinnie 31-16 MIA
    MikeE 30-17 MIA
    Howie 33-17 MIA
    Wyo 24-20 MIA
    B’man 38-13 SF
    Toba 35-12 MIA
    Tim 24-9 MIA
    Old 30-9 MIA
    Son 31-9 MIA
    Stang 28-21 MIA
    GO PHINS!!!

  10. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    happy thanksgiving everyone. Food and Football. Life is good.

  11. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    Nice job mike. I think this coach and this team are different from the few we’ve had before. This is starting to remind of the 08 season. Although I doubt we win the division. As you said, I’m just enjoying the ride.

  12. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Nice job Mike E and happy Thanksgiving everyone

  13. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

    Great job Mike. You’re awesome.

    Interesting Brian. Fine for this year but please not another 8 years.

    Suh is here everything is different now.

    Howie I’m interested in the answer to your question as well. I’d be willing to bet we could be the first to do it.

  14. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone here; even if you love Tannehill. LOL. But more seriously, have a safe, happy, healthy Thanksgiving Day.

  15. This Android tv box already has SportsDevil predloaded on it so you can watch every Phins game every week without the Sunday ticket. It also has 1Channel preloaded for free movies and television shows.
    This way you don’t need to worry what game is on your locals
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    stop bitching about not being able to see the Phins play on Sunday and do it already.

  16. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Happy Thansgiving!

  17. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Good stuff Mike E

    You have earned your turkey

  18. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    BoulderPhinfan says:
    November 24, 2016 at 9:52 am

    happy thanksgiving everyone. Food and Football. Life can’t get any better.

    well yeah, i mean you can add one more F activity to make life better

  19. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    oh yeah and happy thanksgiving to everyone. please be safe out there

  20. 81Howie's avatar 81Howie says:

    Prof.
    That looks interesting. Thirty something is a Hell of allot cheaper than 300+ for the Ticket. We only need it for about 5-6 games a season around here and its a little late to pull the trigger on that now…
    Please remind us of that next season and I will be ready to go come week one.
    HELL YEAH!

  21. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Happy Thanksgiving All!!!

    Last night was Jameson Irish Whiskey and Allegash White.

    Today, who knows . . .

    My younger one was hilarious last night, instead of the usual slurring, he was just mispronouncing words, it was quite amusing.

  22. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LOL @ today aspirin

    So Cask Republic is a local brew?

  23. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Ken — were you doing the wed before hit it with the out of town friends coming for T-Day or just a good night to go out?

  24. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    MIke E — lots of great work and insight in there. And if that one can be so clean after this last line…..you are a far, far better man than me. 🙂

    “It’s now 1:14 AM, and I’ve sobered up some, so I think this is relatively coherent.”

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Nah man, we started drinking early, about 9, so I had some time to recover. I feel pretty good actually, no hangover. My body seems to tolerate whisky pretty well, not sure why.

  25. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Yo Rock – Thanks man, I think she’s hot too.

  26. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Cask Republic is an upscale bar/restaurant that features a large selection of micro brews on tap

  27. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Stanger:
    It was a pre Tday get together?with some buddies. They are all local but we usually get together that night

  28. Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

    Happy Thanksgiving Everyone !!! 🦃🦃🍺🍺🏈🏈

  29. Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

    Mike E. Great job once again !!

  30. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    I have spent time with the family, I have eaten so now it’s time to watch some football

  31. 81Howie's avatar 81Howie says:

    Evening Update
    DOLPHINS-49’ERS
    Rhino 27-17 MIA
    Piggy 42-10 MIA
    Vinnie 31-16 MIA
    MikeE 30-17 MIA
    Howie 33-17 MIA
    Wyo 24-20 MIA
    B’man 38-13 SF
    Toba 35-12 MIA
    Tim 24-9 MIA
    Old 30-9 MIA
    Son 31-9 MIA
    Stang 28-21 MIA
    GO PHINS!!!

  32. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Man Dallas is good. Imagine if they had a pass rusher

  33. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    Ken says:
    November 24, 2016 at 8:05 pm

    Man Dallas is good. Imagine if they had a pass rusher

    they may have the best o line in football……..funny how a good o line makes a team good.

  34. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    Hope everyone has had a good Thanksgiving.

  35. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    herdfan says:
    November 24, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    Hope everyone has had a good Thanksgiving.

    i did till two minutes age when my son just told me my ex bro……nope always will be my brother in law…..passed away. he has been dealing with cancer for years. he truly was one of the good people.

  36. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    thank you girl. but dont feel sorry for me. feel it for his kids. he was really a great guy and left behind two kids in their early 20’s and a wife. they are the ones my heart goes out too. and of course his parents and my ex wife. truly a sad time for all

  37. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    ROB SAYS,”Funny who a good O-Line makes a team good.” ROB, that is indisputable!! I always thought we could win with Tannehill IF he was given an above average O-Line and IF he focused on releasing the ball just a bit more quickly. One involved better quality personnel. The other involved involved better coaching! Throughout Tanny’s entire pre-2016 career, both the personnel and the coaching WERE MISSING as Ross chose one goofball after another to be head coach and general manager. I’m still not totally sold on T-Baum, but Ross finally struck gold with the signing of Gase as our head coach!

    Next draft, we need T-Baum to select at least 2 more quality O-Linemen to give Tanny a chance at another productive year.. Getting some O-Line depth in free agency might not be a bad idea, either. IF upper management can achieve this goal, and plug a hole at linebacker, we do have the talent and coaching that can BRING US SUCCESS IN THE PLAYOFFS!

    But as Rob so wisely said, it begins with the O-Line.

  38. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Happy Day After Thanksgiving!

    Rob – Sorry for your loss man.

  39. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    NOTE THAT despite the recent 5-game winning streak, Dolphin TV ratings are at a historic low (this per Barry Jackson’s column in the Herald). Jackson is one of the best reporters on the Dolphins beat. But even he seems to have overlooked the impact of SEVEN CONSECUTIVE NON-WINNING SEASONS on the Dolphins’ fan base. Those of you who do NOT regularly go to the Fins home games can not fully appreciate the low regard most fans have for this franchise. And it’s going to take MORE than one good year of football before potential Dolphin customers reach into their pockets and financially support a franchise that has consistently broken their hearts since Steve Ross became the owner. Cutting about 11,500 seats out of Hard Head Stadium can give the appearance of a nearly packed house. But the TRUTH IS MIAMI has NOT averaged 50,000 fannies in the seats this home season. One need only look at the upper deck and the empty seats behind the Dolphins bench to know that the south Florida public is not yet sold on Ross’s ability to produce a winner. It will take AT LEAST TWO CONSECUTIVE SEASONS IN THE PLAYOFFS before Ross begins to duplicate the 60,000+ season tickets sold during the Huizenga era in the early 1990’s.

    Glitz and glitter do NOT attract true football fans. WINNING TEAMS attract true football fans in south Florida. The concept of “supporting your team through good times and bad times” does not hold much sway down here, despite the presence of a few folks like me who’ll go to games no matter how bad the team is.

    • Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

      OD The stadium upgrades were mainly done so they could host another Super Bowl, not necessarily for “glitz and glamour”. Many of the new stadiums possess these upgrades, so he needed to do this in order to keep up with them. Those seats behind the Dolphins bench cost a small fortune, and the average fan simply can’t afford them. I would suspect that once we start winning, some of the corporations may snatch those up.

  40. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    OD

    I don’t get it. I really don’t. If you’re a fan of the team, what happened last year, or the last years isn’t going to make me not watch, especially during a stretch where the team is playing well. Makes no sense to me.

    To me, that’s like if you owned a business, and you were losing money for years, but you finally hired the right guy to make your business boom, but you decided to burn all the money you made because you ran a bad business for so many years. No comprende friende

  41. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    RIP Florence Henderson.

  42. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Every stadium, hotel, cruise ship, whatever has a place for the uber rich to plunk down the big bucks. It’s just the nature of business, and not a Stephen Ross phenomenon.

  43. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Sonny

    That Kirk Cousins guy sure is looking good! Man!

  44. 1/ The Dolphins defense is the best in NFL in 3rd dwn % allowing opposing offenses to convert only 32% of their 3rd downs.
    2/ 49ers are 2nd worst in the league on D allowing 47% conversion on 3rd downs.
    3/ Miami’s offense is worst in the league converting 3rd downs at 33%.

  45. The 49ers D is the worst in the league allowing 180 yds per game rushing. If we attack them any other way but running the ball down their throats I’d be extremely surprised. We might not even need to pass once this game.

  46. With the 24th pick in the 2017 NFL Draft the Miami Dolphins select Takkarist McKinley, DE, UCLA.

  47. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    November 25, 2016 at 9:33 am (Edit)

    1/ The Dolphins defense is the best in NFL in 3rd dwn % allowing opposing offenses to convert only 32% of their 3rd downs.

    This is the most surprising thing to me. The announcers said something about this a couple games ago and I remember thinking it had to be a mistake.

  48. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    good article on Marino’s involvement

    Offensive coordinator Clyde Christensen said “sometimes guys don’t have a great sense of timing. Dan understands when to help, when not to. He’s been really a good asset. Not that Adam Gase needs much help being aggressive, but we always tease him [when Marino says] take a shot, let’s get the ball upfield.

    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article116957768.html#storylink=cpy

  49. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    BRIAN: My “Glitz and Glitter” comments were NOT so much directed at the stadium upgrades but were instead directed at creating a “south beach nightclub atmosphere” in a failed attempt to attract local “Glitterati” to the games. Ross has clearly steered this franchise in directions that have NOT increased “the brand” (witness the special ‘Florida Gators Day’ in the home stadium of the Hurricanes or various other snafus and insults. The numbers don’t lie. Ratings are down and fannies in the seats are down from the early ’90’ and even down considerably from the 2000 season, the last season Miami won a playoff game. This is NOT debatable. It’s a FACT.
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    MIKE E.: I’m ABSOLUTELY SURE you do not “comprende.” It’s virtually impossible to get a sense of how this franchise is viewed in south Florida IF YOU DO NOT LIVE IN SOUTH FLORIDA–and your comments prove that. South Florida sports fans are NOT REMOTELY like fans of the Giants, Jets or Eagles. But it’s hard to put these differences into words. But, as I said earlier, the numbers don’t lie.

    A WINNING TEAM that wins playoff games WILL TURN THIS FRANCHISE AROUND AT THE TICKET OFFICE. South Florida fans (unlike Packer fans and fans of some other franchises) have not AND WILL NOT support a team mired in non-winning seasons (witness the Panthers, Marlins and others). AND THAT’S A FACT, NOT AN OPINION.

  50. With the 56th overall pick in the 2017 NFL Draft the Miami Dolphins select Jordan Leggett, TE, Clemson.

  51. With their 3rd round compensatory pick in the 2017 NFL Draft the Miami Dolphins select: Zach Banner, OG, USC

  52. If there is a coaching staff that could get something out of Jordan you would think it would be this one. If Jordan would be cut free then you know he’s a total lost cause.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I agree, but it could also be bad timing. He’s rusty as hell coming off of yet another surgery. Not sure if he can really give us anything of substance this season. Maybe next year.

  53. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    OD

    OK, I totally hear that, but then tell me this . . .

    Is Stephen Ross the problem, or is the Dolphins hometown fanbase the problem?

    IMO, it sounds like the hometown fans just aren’t passionate fans.

  54. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I hope everyone had a Happy Thanksgiving.

    FFR, sorry to hear of the loss of your B-I-L.

    Good job, Mike!

    I’d like to see us run it 40+ times this Sunday.

  55. Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

    Mike,

    Something to consider about Jordan is the fact that people who have been out of the NFL for over 2 seasons almost never make it back to playing at a high level. It’s a pipedream at this point to hope for anything from him. I think they’ve got him out there to decide if they’ll even bring him into camp next year. It’s a tryout IMO….

    Not that I’d complain if I was totally wrong, I just don’t allow myself much hope that Jordan is ever going to be a meaningful contributor to this team.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I agree with that, but like I said, can you really gauge him coming off surgery, + all the rust he has to shake off now?

      • Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

        I would generally say “No”. But you can gauge him on the entire body of work since he was drafted and at some point draw a conclusion….I’m sure that’s what they’ll do.

        Hopefully you’re right though, and they’ll give him til next training camp to compete for a roster spot. I guess the best way to shake off the rust is for him to be practicing now.

  56. Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

    +++Vibes to you and the BIL’s family FFR. Cheers bud.

  57. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Top

    It actually sounds worse to me. What he basically said was until we develop a culture of winning, the fans won’t pay attention. In other words, the fact that we’ve played very well the last 5 games is irrelevant, it’s going to take years of winning to get them to back the team.

  58. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Hope everyone had a good T-Day.

    Weird one for me (even if the invites from of my parents’ old friends were appreciated even I declined). Went to a restaurant instead of getting on a plane. But hey — never had a kid crash my car either. 🙂

  59. TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

    MIKE E……i’m up here in Wisconsin…..there’s a waiting list for GB season tickets……they are actually “willed” to heirs…..I grew up thinking that’s how it was everywhere…..lol.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Other places I have lived where that is true are for the Giants and Redskins. And have read that the Pats actually make it real hard to re-sell to out of towners to keep their home field advantage even if it cuts down on the re-sell price (perhaps the evil genius at work once more).

  60. 81Howie's avatar 81Howie says:

    Afternoon Update
    DOLPHINS-49’ERS
    Rhino 27-17 MIA
    Piggy 42-10 MIA
    Vinnie 31-16 MIA
    MikeE 30-17 MIA
    Howie 33-17 MIA
    Wyo 24-20 MIA
    B’man 38-13 SF
    Toba 35-12 MIA
    Tim 24-9 MIA
    Old 30-9 MIA
    Son 31-9 MIA
    Stang 28-21 MIA
    GO PHINS!

  61. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    I am calling this one a trap game no matter what Mike says. Guess that is a sign of legitimacy. Sounds like we will be in a lot of blackout pools though.

    From http://www.ninersnation.com/
    ————————-

    It should surprise nobody that there are no predictions of a 49ers upset. There are some at CBS Sports who think the 49ers can cover the seven-point spread, but nobody sees a win……

    Here are some picks and predictions around the media.

    SB Nation: 0 out of 10
    ESPN: 0 out of 10
    CBS Sports: 0 out of 8
    FOXSports.com: 0 out of 6
    USA Today: 0 out of 5

  62. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    MIKE E: It WOULD be fair to say most Miami area sports fans are fair weather fans. The era of the HARD CORE DOLPHIN FAN went out the window (for the most part) when Miami stopped being a winning franchise. THOSE OF US who’ve been loyal fans since the early days have mostly died off by now. This coming January will mark the 43rd anniversary of Miami’s last Super Bowl victory. A big percentage of those who actually attend Dolphin games weren’t around in January of 1974. Their level of fandom can’t compare to those of us WHO WERE AROUND during the 1972 and 1973 seasons.

  63. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    YOUNG STANGER: SEE YOU in the usual place in the parking lot around 11:30 or so!

  64. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    One thing to consider is that TV ratings are down league wide. So the fact that ours is down is not unusual

  65. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    FFR:
    Sorry to hear about your BIL my condolences

  66. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Top

    Pretty much same deal for the NY Giants, but the Jets don’t quite have the same loyalty.

  67. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, the Browns have played a few teams tough. They just can’t finish any games.

  68. Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

    I’m going Miami 38-16…..I bet a few of you know the significance…..

  69. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    OD

    Look at MLB and the Chicago Cubs. They hadn’t won the World Series in over 100 years, yet they fill up that stadium, or close to it for 162 games a year. It’s not just winning or losing, it’s a lack of a developed fanbase. It’s understandable with so many transplants living in FLA.

  70. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t think south Florida fans are much different than any others

    Here are the official stats for 2016
    You can look k at the home games to get an idea

    We are bottom 10

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2016/attendance.htm

    Honestly who gives a shit
    Why do any of you care what other Miami dolphin fans do

    The team is in a stable place right now
    The owner is invested in smy South Fla
    And it’s a profitable franchise

    Why bother characterizing south fla fans in any manner
    It doesn’t affect you

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I knew you would agree

        Isn’t it funny how when we start winning the dialogue shifts from how bad the team is to how bad it’s fans are

        Maybe there should be a discussion about how good the team is

        Try to enjoy the good things you Freakin Sourpusses!😝

  71. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Piggy

    It didn’t start out as a discussion about the fans, it started as a discussion of why Stephen Ross is at fault for the lack of fans watching Dolphins games, it just evolved to that

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I know Mike
      Not blaming you

      What choice do you have if that is the current discussion

      I’m just saying…let’s try not to live under a dark cloud all the time

  72. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    It’s funny
    People always talk about Bills fans in a positive light

    But they are almost last in the league in home attendance

  73. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    LOL @ Piggy

    I think Dolfans are so shocked we have won 5 in a row after starting off 1-4 and have a pretty good chance to make it 6 in a row this Sunday against the 49ers, that we’re not sure if we’re living in… The Twilight Zone. LOL

  74. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Oddly
    New England’s home attendance numbers aren’t very good

  75. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

  76. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim

    Maybe he’s gettin’ ‘er done . . . I think he had a lot of work to do on his house after the storm. I guess he hasn’t had time to come on here.

  77. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Herd

    Not sure. Probably doesn’t take much time to do the Pick em game, but then again, it doesn’t take long to stop in say hello either.

  78. TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

    i’ll share this from the other site 🙂
    *
    maybe it’s just me….but since I started caring about the ONLY stat that matters….”W”s…….I don’t give a rats ass about any other stat……far as i’m concerned, stats are for “fantasy” football guys and geeks……back when MARINO was lighting the football world on fire, I really loved following stats…….it gave me temporary pleasure….but no damn RING for the king….so fuck stats……lol.
    *
    this week, here’s my prediction.
    *
    DOLPHINS……..W
    Sugar Farmers….L

  79. 81Howie's avatar 81Howie says:

    What College game are those people behind me watching?
    They shut up for a little bit and now they are hollering again.
    Maybe LSU they do have a Saints flag in front of their house

  80. 81Howie's avatar 81Howie says:

    Evening Update
    DOLPHINS-49’ERS
    Rhino 27-17 MIA
    Piggy 42-10 MIA
    Vinnie 31-16 MIA
    MikeE 30-17 MIA
    Howie 33-17 MIA
    Wyo 24-20 MIA
    B’man 38-13 SF
    Toba 35-12 MIA
    Tim 24-9 MIA
    Old 30-9 MIA
    Son 31-9 MIA
    Stang 28-21 MIA
    Tops W-L MIA 😉
    GO PHINS!!!

  81. 81Howie's avatar 81Howie says:

    Re-Update
    DOLPHINS-49’ERS
    Rhino 27-17 MIA
    Piggy 42-10 MIA
    Vinnie 31-16 MIA
    MikeE 30-17 MIA
    Howie 33-17 MIA
    Wyo 24-20 MIA
    B’man 38-13 SF
    Toba 35-12 MIA
    Tim 24-9 MIA
    Old 30-9 MIA
    Son 31-9 MIA
    Stang 28-21 MIA
    Jahn 38-16 MIA
    Tops W-L MIA 😉
    GO PHINS!!!

  82. Throwbacks this Sunday. Can’t lose.

  83. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    YOUNG STANGER: Imagine what’s left of my group will be setting up roughly 10:30 or so. Probably won’t have a tent. THROWBACKS GUARANTEE A VICTORY!! Suggest you BYOB.
    Looking forward to seeing you there.

  84. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    November 25, 2016 at 7:08 pm (Edit)
    Throwbacks this Sunday. Can’t lose.

    Now this I like. My faves!❤️🐬🏈

  85. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Next year we should change to the throwbacks as our regular uni

    • herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

      Make it so!

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Believe it or not, I read somewhere that it’s actually impossible for that to happen. When you make a uniform change, the NFL makes you keep it for a certain period of time, maybe 5 years, and if you want to change it at that point, you have to apply for a change, and get NFL approval.

  86. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I like the throwbacks best too

    But the aqua color doesn’t match the stadium now

  87. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    Mike E. says:
    November 25, 2016 at 8:35 pm (Edit)

    Believe it or not, I read somewhere that it’s actually impossible for that to happen. When you make a uniform change, the NFL makes you keep it for a certain period of time, maybe 5 years, and if you want to change it at that point, you have to apply for a change, and get NFL approval.

    Just sayin, the NFL is ruining the NFL! Just one girls opinion. But I’m no ordinary girl. 😉

    • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

      The old uniforms are my favorite, but if they win a SB in the new ones,they will appeal to me more.😀

      • herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

        Very true. I’ve got several things with the new logo. A few things with the last logo. Nothing with the more original logo so I better get on that since I’m saying it’s my fave. lol

      • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

        Yeah, I am about the same. I do have a winter jacket that has the logo without the marine blue in it. All of my jerseys have the most recent logo, most of my T shirts have the new logo.

    • herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

      I have two jerseys…guess which player? lol

      • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

        Ummmmm….number 10?

      • herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

        Yep. But I have to say I didn’t have one when he was playing. I bought both of mine locally at a sporting goods store after he was done…on clearance. lol One’s the teal, about a size XXL so it’s pretty big, then I got one of the orange ones, it was a youth size XL which actually is how I plan to buy any jersey’s from now on since the youth sizes are less $.

      • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

        Jersey sizes can run a little large, after all it needs to large enough to fit shoulder pads in..🙂

  88. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    Dammit I keep thinking today is Saturday and the game will be tomorrow…..

  89. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    I know. These long weekends throw me off. I kept thinking today was Saturday, especially with college football on TV all day.

  90. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    Not to be debbie downer but this has not been a great Thanksgiving in my world. I think it’s the alcohol that’s throwing me off. lol

  91. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    I haven’t had a particularly great one either.

  92. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Vodka been too good? Lol

  93. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    No, it is usually one or the other. My first choice is Csptain Morgan. I am a little odd in that I drink either with diet Dew.

    • herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

      That is different…at least no one is taking your drink. lol

      • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

        Lmao, no most people think it sounds disgusting.
        What do you drink with your vodka, if you don’t mind me asking. I have a friend who drinks it straight on the rocks.

  94. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    herdfan says:
    November 26, 2016 at 12:25 am

    Hopefully you don’t drink those together.

    only us pros do that

  95. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    I have a friend like that. I either have lemonade in the summer, cranberry in winter. Lately its cranberry and pineapple.

    • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

      Do you have lime vodka by you? It is actually green. There is a drink called a “summer hummer” (que comment from FFR) that is lime vodka and lemonade.

  96. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    finfanrob says:
    November 26, 2016 at 12:33 am (Edit)

    only us pros do that

    well this lowly amateur will just stick with one at a time.

  97. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    I never was a fan of flavored vodka. Maybe the technology has improved but I never really got into it. Just give me regular stuff in the freezer and I’m good.

    • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

      I know what you mean with the hundreds of flavored vodkas and I agree with you. The stuff I am talking about has been around for like 30 years. It kind of looks and tastes like the green lemon lime kool aide.

  98. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    That’s kind of an era.

    Former Cuban President Fidel Castro has died, according to his brother. He was 90-years-old.

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