Ask Mike – 2016 Season Week 15


from Wyo

Q – So the unthinkable happened.
Tanny Finally can’t bounce back up after going down again.
Were you surprised at the reaction of the fan base after the injury?

If you mean fans were worried about about oft maligned QB, not really. Even his detractors have to admit he was playing well this season, there was a notable difference in his game, leadership, and how he’s viewed by his teammates. Not only that, but people tend to appreciate something more when it’s gone, so I get that.

You know I was hoping and thinking it wasn’t as bad as first reported, and thankfully, it wasn’t. I still think #17 has more to do on the field in ’17 for us. I think he’ll be back when we need him. I know it won’t be this week, I think Moore and the Dolphins will win this one. I’m thinking there’s a slight chance he may available next week, if necessary, but I’m hoping that’s not the case.

I think if we go to Miami at 10-5, and we face a Patriots team that still has something to play for, there’s a pretty good chance Tannehill will be playing. Honestly, that depends on how well Moore played in the 2 previous games. If Moore is playing well, I think we’ll see Tannehill in the playoffs, provided he’s healthy enough to play, and I think he will.
from Ken

Q – Put on your Adam Gase hat. Your Quarterback who you have been grooming into the leader of your team has been injured and you have 3 divisional games left with the playoffs at stake. Your next 2 games are on the road at cold weather sites against tough defenses. What is your game plan?


I expect we’re going to see more of the run game, and I hope we do. I think it’s been under utilized lately. Of course, the success up front dictates that somewhat, but I don’t want to put too much on Matt Moore’s shoulders, and I doubt Adam Gase does either. We’ve seen just a little of what Kenyan Drake can do, and I think it’s time to see more. I’d give Ajayi plenty of carries, and spell him with Drake and Williams.

I’d like to see Drake get some chances in the next 3 games, even if it’s mostly throwing to him out of the backfield. He’s a home run waiting to happen. I’ve felt we should have been running more lately even when Tannehill was the QB, so it should be even more so with Moore. I know the Jets are tough to run on, and i think the Jets will be fired up a bit at the start, until we put our foot down on their neck and squash them. They spoiled our playoff chances back in 2014, we were 8-7, and had a shot to be in the playoffs, with other teams needing to lose to help us in, and we unraveled against Geno Smith and the Jets. Geno, by the way, had a perfect 158.3 QB rating that game, throwing for 358 yards and 3 TD’s, completing 20 of 25 passes. They will have fight, until we knock it out of them. We need to impose our will.

Against BUF, pretty much the same thing. Run early and often, and we’ve already had success running against the bills, and the weather is irrelevant. We’ll see if Urbik can give us more of a push, but it looks like we have 4/5 of our line, and that should be enough.

That Patriots game really depends on what’s at stake for the Patriots. If they have home field locked up, we’ll see the starters for a half, and then even Emperor Belichick will rein them in for the playoffs, so at the very least, we better hang tough in that first half, and then finish them in the 2nd half.

from Piggy

Q – Oinks Human,

If you had a choice between wearing one of these jerseys for the next 3 games which would you choose:

A. Dion Jordan
B. Ryan Tannehill
C. Mike Pouncey
D. No jersey, instead a Jeff Ireland Memorial vile of “Fuck off”

In this scenario you have to choose one which will likely have the biggest impact on the next 3 games

Squiggly Salutations and Farts,

Sir Pigsgerald Oinkustus Bacon DeLaChuleta, AKA the Squiginator also AKA The deliverer of Snout Justice

Definitely #17! Like many on the team said, let’s win it for Ryan! That’s kind of the battle cry for the rest of the season, although the news that he isn’t as seriously hurt and may be available to play soon changes that a bit, but ah, what the hell, keep it going until he’s ready! I wish every Dolphins fan who goes to MetLife Saturday wears #17. That would be a fitting tribute to our QB who has taken the hits for 77 games and didn’t miss a game. 213 sacks, and an unfathomable amount of hits after throwing, including the low hit by Calais Campbell that finally took him out. GO DOLPHINS! GO TANNEHILL!

from Stanger

Q – Does it really matter if we make the playoffs or not?  
Yes the season has offered hope for the future, but is this team in anyway playoff ready?
Wouldn’t 9-7 and a better draft choice be better than a Raven’s like loss in the first round?


Oh hell YESSSS!!! Any time you have a chance to make the playoffs, you have to do everything you can to make it. Sure, we have deficiencies, but so do other teams too. The Ravens beat us down, but if we play a better game, we can beat them.

It definitely matters to me. A little playoff experience never hurt anyone, and if Ryan Tannehill is back at that point (I think he will be), I think a playoff game would be a great experience for him. You know I love the draft as much as anyone, but I’d rather pick 5-7 spots down in the draft than sit out of the playoffs. You never know what can happen. If Ajayi can catch fire again, we beat a lot of teams out there.

You know how you get more playoff ready? By playing in the playoffs! Let this team experience that, and it will make them even hungrier to do more next season, and go further. I can’t see any reason in the world to hope we don’t make the playoffs, and certainly not because we won’t deserve it. If we go 11-5 or 10-6, we will damn well deserve it, regardless of our schedule.

I also think if we did face the Ravens again in a playoff game, there are a bunch of guys who would love to exact some revenge after being embarrassed by them just a few weeks ago. I honestly don’t feel like the Ravens are a far superior team, they just got us good that day. It happens.

These guys want the playoffs, it just takes things to another level. Think of a guy like Cam Wake. He doesn’t know how many more seasons he has, and I’m sure he’d love to take his chances in the playoffs. Adam Gase would learn a lot coaching a team in the playoffs, it would be great experience for him, even if he was there as an OC.

Just to make it clear, if we win 11 games, or even 9 or 10 games, and don’t make the playoffs, that in no way diminishes the fantastic job this team has done, and it’s so good to know the team is finally in good hands with HC Adam Gase. I’m already proud of what this team has accomplished, and the future looks bright in Miami!

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344 Responses to Ask Mike – 2016 Season Week 15

  1. Mike E. says:

    Maxwell, besides the 2 INT’s this season has 15 passes defensed and 4 forced fumbles. That’s a lot for a CB

  2. Mike E. says:


    Did you see my email?

  3. wyoming85 says:

    • stangerx says:

      “two LBs, OL help, a DE, a TE and maybe a WR”

      That’s five players (without the WR).
      We should have $50 mil in cap room.
      After re-signs and and the rookie class……should have $30 mil to play with.
      Add in the 1st and 2nd pick and that is all five.
      Maybe that extra WR will have to wait.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I’d re-sign Stills and roll with who we have at WR. Carroo should be more of a factor next year and maybe Grant too.

        Duarte may also develop into a receiving weapon even if not a prototype TE. Sims is also a UFA who I would re-sign as well but we could use another big TE who can get down the field.

      • stangerx says:

        I was thinking that we re-do Landy to keep him in the fold and maybe re-sign Stills. Not thinking Stills should cost that much but have been wrong on such before. Like the idea of being four strong at wideout though in this system where we use three so often. Someone is almost for sure going to get hurt.

  4. D says:

    In our system, PD’s are big, because we play a physical sytle of pass defense. PD’s means our guy stayed in the dude’s pocket and swatted it away, which again, is the more likely scenario with this defense as it is. We arent looking for ballhawk CB’s unless those skills come with a guy who can also be physical.

    I think the idea of number 1 number 2 CB also is completely outdated to go along with the ints being a litmus for good CB. Ints come really from QB making stupid decisions, generally on longer/deeper passes. QB’s these days are abotu 50/50 dink and dunk, which makes int’s hard for a CB to get, since mostly who is covering the intermediate crossing routes is a NCB, S or LB. Jalen Tabor is a guy i harp on, not because he is UF, but because he is that combo or press skills CB and blalhawking.

    Either way i think Maxwell’s numbers support the fact he has played decently, though we all know he has had his issues with penalties and occasional mind lapse where he gets absolutely burned. Howard, if on a equal level with Maxwell would be a good combo, Lippett to the slot would be solid 3CBs. Id still probably target a CB in draft, maybe even a 1st rounder, Worst case we have is Howard, Maxwell and new guy compete for the two outside spots, the losers falls to NCB. Lippett might wind up being trade bait, or just the kind of depth you really would love to have on your team.

  5. The Flying Pig says:

    I wouldn’t go over the top at WR or TE for that matter

    We should just re-sign stills
    I know out TE group doesn’t look so good
    But I don’t know that we need that much talent across the board in terms of receivers
    I really have to see what is available at TE
    But I don’t think we should talk about it as a need
    I know Sims is not a great receiver
    But he is an exceptional blocker
    And our offense has been good in the redzone

    The interior OL can easily fall apart if Pouncey is done (some one reported he was unhappy at IR so I think Pouncey wants to play) but if Pouncey is ready to go, it’s an easier hole to plug

    But on defense….ughhhh…we need a better pass rush and better play from the LB position

  6. herdfan says:

    Rock if you are reading try posting something again please.

  7. D says:

    There arent a ton of guys i wouldnt at least try to re-sign off this team. The nucleus is pretty solid feeling, we just need to stack some talent on top in some cases, and on the bottom in others. For example id resign Bushrod, but id do it with the intention of him as a depth player, backup at OT or OG. Id try to replace him either in FA or Draft with a guy i planned on playing primarily at OG but who might be able to replace someone at another position if it comes to it. So a versatile OL like Pocic, who has played all position on the OL.

    You would essentailly have a case for what if BA goes down, well move Tunsil to LT, Bushrod to RG, Pocic LG. Pouncey is out, Steen to RG, Pocic to OC. James goes out, Bushrod to RT. Combination of BA and Pouncey and James for example. BA Tunsil to LT, Pocic to OC, Steen to LG, Bushrod to RT. To me that would really make me feel god about out OL depth and it really only would take one re-sign and one draft pick to do it. We could do it with a FA signing like Zeitler as well, but we wouldn’t have the versatility as we would with Pocic.

    We need a similar level of depth at LB but i think its going to take a little more doing to get us to that spot there. Maybe combination of FA and couple of draft picks, but definately a double dip in the draft.

  8. D says:

    I think WR is a spot you add a player every year, even if its later round and we are making sure our depth is as deep as possible. Id draft a WR regardless. How early i went would really depend on the re-sign of Stills or if i just got a guy i thought would add a new dimension to our group. A larger bodied guy with similar skills to Stills would be an upgrade. Still is going to try to get paid this time, there are likely teams that will outbid us unless we want to over pay for him. He is a good complimentary receiver, but he is far from a focal receiver, and i think he is going to try to get both the pay and the play of a focal receiver in this next FA. I think there are teams that will bite too. I dont think the re-sign of Stills is at all going to be in our control.

    • Tim Knight says:

      The thing is we’ve added 4 WRs through the draft the last 3 years. I don’t think we have to add one every year because you want the ones you did draft to develop. Our WR group is really young but three of them have some experience now.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        This kinda has a feels a skip a year drafting a WR

        If we do take one

        Make it a late day 3 pick
        Not an early pick

  9. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, TE will be a need if we don’t re-sign Sims. If we do re-sign him then TE becomes more of a want. I don’t see why people feel we can’t add a seam TE because somehow that will keep us from adding other positions.

  10. Mike E. says:

    We can draft a WR, but I want to see last years draft pick get a lot more action next season. What’s the point of trading 3 picks for a guy you don’t use? I think Carroo can be a really good NFL receiver too, but if there’s something he’s not getting or improving with, MAKE him improve, do what you have to do to get him making plays out there.

    • stangerx says:

      Hoping Caroo is the real deal given what we spent on him. At the same time, even if he is looking good in practice we still need Stills or someone like him…..he’s our only speedster threat deep.

      • Mike E. says:

        Grant has plenty of speed too, we just haven’t used him. I like Stills, he really showed up this season. I hope we re-sign him too.

      • stangerx says:

        Grant has the speed, but if he is a polished WR we haven’t seen that yet……but who knows what happens in practice.

  11. Rockphin says:

    Do NOT piss off the hand or you will be BLOCKED! LOL

  12. sb7mvp says:

    Resign Stills and use Duarte and Grant at wide receiver. If WR is still an option sign a late round guy

  13. The Flying Pig says:

    im just basically Oinking
    Draft defense early
    Then draft more defense early
    Them more defense early

    When we get into day 3 then make you can think about offense…lol

    It would be nice to solidofy the interior OL before the draft

    Not sure tha plan
    I assume Tunsil will be our LT
    Not sure if Albert is gone
    Albert did play OG in college – maybe Tunsil and Albert can just flip

    and who knows with Pouncey

    But Tunsil and James are pretty good bookends
    James is actually probably our best OL lately – he played bad in September
    But that seems to have changed

    • stangerx says:

      Think it will be a big ego letdown for Albert to switch to G, especially with his paygrade, which is a more practical matter.

      Maybe he will give in to the advancing years thing though and take a redo.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I don’t see why we need to flip them. Tunsil will replace Albert when he’s gone at some point. For now keep it the way it is and build chemistry.

      • stangerx says:

        The big issue with Albert is that he is due $10 million next year (with only pro-rated bonus left v the cap) and we have Tunsil there to play the LT position he was drafted for. Whether salary or draft position… of them would be a real expensive G.

  14. sb7mvp says:

    Can we just change our base defense to the 5-2 and have Phillips, Suh, and Mitchell in the middle and not have to rely on 3 linebackers? lol

  15. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, Parker is a vertical threat too. We just need to get him healthy and playing consistent. He has the most talent at the position due to size, speed and catch radius.

    I want to add to the good players we have, not keep adding by subtracting. Continue to develop our young players and add more talent to the mix. Next you know we’re loaded.

  16. Rockphin says:

    I have pissed off the blogging gods and it has been determined that I am a spammer

  17. Rockphin says:


    It worked okay now I have to get back to work no time to blog today

    Thank you MikeE and Herd!

  18. Rockphin says:

    Damn Squirrels. I will get them!

    It seems to be all good now. Mike & Herd. Thank you very much for the assistance.

  19. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    December 16, 2016 at 1:12 pm

    We actually do play that with a LB on the LOS and two LBs acting as inside backers
    Sometimes our formation has it that way, but thats not base formation like SB7 was referring to, even though he was just goofin around.

    • Tim Knight says:

      It doesn’t matter what we call it, we use it a lot and we play nickel more than base anyway. We use 3-3-5 too. The WOLB usually blitzes the backfield even if the run goes the other way. He’s there to prevent cutback runs or attack the QB if it’s play-action.

  20. D says:

    Grant is actually the WR we should be wanting to use for those WR screens we keep wanting to run.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I’m a little worried to let him anywhere near the ball these days

      • D says:

        He is just trying to do too much.Trying so hard to make everything a homerun that he is neglecting the ball handling. Its rookie nerves from what i can tell. We will see i guess.

      • Mike E. says:

        I think they feel the same way Piggy

      • Tim Knight says:

        I agree D, Grant is looking up field too quickly. The coaches don’t want to put too much on his plate just yet. But he has been running fake end arounds of late and one of these times he’s going to get it. Hopefully he breaks one. 🙂

  21. Mike E. says:

    LMAO @ Piggy

  22. wyoming85 says:

  23. D says:


  24. wyoming85 says:

    Fuckin Stabby runs out of bounds with nobody around!

  25. 17-6 MIA is my prediction! It’s going to be wet and cold. A grind it out kinda game so hopefully Ajayi can get going early.

  26. wyoming85 says:

    Old Rivalries renewed!
    PS. this is as heated as the Fins and Stej!!!!!

    • D says:

      As heated as a once semi relevant vs a never relevant can be! JBB

      I have been wanting to ask you about the RB out of Wyoming, Brian Hill i think is his name. I have seen a little of him, looks good but do you think he is legit or is it the competition level?

      • wyoming85 says:

        He is Legit!
        I can’t wait to see him run with an NFL Oline!

        Our Center was very good but the rest are sorely undersized!

  27. Rockphin says:

    .@MDC_Britt rocking her fringe on the runway

    SHE CAN “ROCK” anything she wants!!

    Ok, now I really need to get back to work. LOL

  28. wyoming85 says:

  29. Tim Knight says:

    Yeah unfortunately Center is a position we have to look at for sure this offseason.

  30. The Flying Pig says:

    I definitely think Marshall owes us an fumble and a couple of drops for that MNF performance against the jests

  31. D says:

    Piggy i think i passed on Dawuane Smoot, Harold Landry and Demarcus Walker. I like Daeshon Hall as good as any of those guys so no biggie to me.

  32. Mike E. says:

    It’s going to be very strange watching the Dolphins play on a Saturday night

    • The Flying Pig says:

      its totally weird

      I’m going to Slatterys at no one tomorrow

      Nat Moore and Joe Rose will be there
      I think they are filming the Joe Rose show
      so it is expected to be a big turnout

      Then I’m going to go home
      and then I might go back to Slatterys to watch the late game


  33. 81Howie says:

    Afternoon Update
    Howie 29-17 MIA
    Toba 24-9 MIA
    Piggy 20-3 MIA
    MikeE 16-9 MIA
    B’man 27-13 MIA
    Rock 30-16 NYJ
    Old 20-16 MIA
    Herd 23-17 MIA
    Prof 24-9 MIA
    Wyo 35-12 MIA
    BriNY 27-17 MIA
    Vinnie 17-6 MIA
    Tim 23-16 MIA

  34. The Flying Pig says:

    12pm Mike

  35. The Flying Pig says:


    On Sunday there a bunch of games
    But I don’t even know if there are any college games this Saturday
    So I can’t hang Out in bar that long

  36. wyoming85 says:

    Tanny’s replacement plays for Wyoming!
    We can draft him next year or the year after! 😉

  37. stangerx says:

    bookman11 says:
    December 16, 2016 at 2:35 pm
    10 hours at a bar? Sounds like a Saturday in Wisconsin

    Sounds like a good time too.
    So long as there is is some football, brats, Leinenkugel and a snowplow uber home. 🙂

    • bookman11 says:

      Yep….all sounds great, although I would personally prefer Captainniver the Lennies.

      • stangerx says:

        We can do the same down here though absent the brews……and no one has to shovel a drive way. But admittedly — instead of Brats we worry about what the catch of the day was and the local beer ain’t as good. Give me time and I will make you understand where heaven is for all intense yet retired book cops. 🙂

  38. Mike E. says:

    I couldn’t spend 10 hours at a bar, no shot. If I was drinking all day, I’d be in a coma after 6, and if I wasn’t drinking, you’d have to hold me at gunpoint to stay that long. lol

  39. Mike E. says:


    If you’re lurking about, I started the Prince of Blood a few days ago. It’s really dragging ass so far. I hope it gets better. It probably will, all the other books were entertaining.

  40. stangerx says:

    Howard is not on the list.
    Pouncey is not cause he went IR.
    Williams moves up to questionable (but don’t count on him for sure).
    Otherwise pretty healthy for a late season game (no doubtfuls).
    Dolphins Injury Report

    QB Ryan Tannehill (Knee) — Out
    S Isa Abdul-Quddus (Neck) — Questionable
    OT Branden Albert (Wrist) — Questionable
    LB Kiko Alonso (Hamstring, Hand) — Questionable
    G Jermon Bushrod (Shoulder) — Questionable
    LB Jelani Jenkins (Knee, Hand) — Questionable
    CB Bobby McCain (Hand) — Questionable
    LB Spencer Paysinger (Thigh) — Questionable
    C Anthony Steen (Foot) — Questionable
    DE Mario Williams (Ankle) — Questionable

  41. Mike E. says:


    I would be fine not seeing Mario Williams on the field again wearing a Dolphins uniform. He’s done. He shows nothing of what he used to be. He looks like he’s just out there collecting paychecks.

  42. Ken says:

    My Saturday dinner plans are off woohoo 😆

  43. Ken says:

    10 hours with Bookman in a bar could be dangerous especially if he brings his mug

  44. Rockphin says:

    Rockphin’s prediction for tomorrow’s game.

    Dolphins D – 4 picks, 2 FF, one recovered.
    Jet’s D – 1 pick, 2 FF, one recovered.

    Special teams wins game for Dolphins.

  45. Rockphin says:

    Man, when is it going to cool off? It is freaking hot out there. It’s December!

  46. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, yes tomorrow will be about 44 degrees but the game is at 8:25 PM so it’s going to be in the 30s by game time and it could drop into the 20s. There could be rain too. I hope it has stopped by then.

  47. wyoming85 says:

  48. Rockphin says:

    Mike, Prince of Blood was a little disappointing. I didn’t like Boric and Erlund the characters all that much. I think that is the book where they introduce the character Nakor though and he is a staple of the series in the future (along with Pug) ((I still don’t like that name!))

    It picks up a little bid later in the book but it wasn’t one of the best.

  49. wyoming85 says:

    Adam SchefterVerified account
    Two words on why Leonard Fournette absolutely is doing the right thing by skipping the bowl.

    Jaylon. Smith.

  50. drg says:


    I will be rooting hard for your boys to kick the crap out of BYU. Few things I enjoy as much as watching the cougies and patsies lose. Good luck!

    Are your boys good this year? BYU should be a good test for them, but I’m tempted to bet the -8 1/2 line. What do you think?

    • wyoming85 says:

      We beat Boisie State and ended with a 9-4 record.

      Lost our NT to an MCL it really hurt our run D

    • wyoming85 says:

      Woops 8-5 😦

      Wyoming Cowboys
      8-5, 1st in Mountain Division
      Scores & Schedule
      Sat, Sep 3vsNorthern IllinoisW 34 – 40Final
      Sat, Sep 10@NebraskaL 17 – 52Final
      Sat, Sep 17vsUC DavisW 22 – 45Final
      Fri, Sep 23@Eastern MichiganL 24 – 27Final
      Sat, Oct 1@Colorado StateW 38 – 17Final
      Sat, Oct 8vsAir ForceW 26 – 35Final
      Sat, Oct 22@NevadaW 42 – 34Final
      Sat, Oct 29vsBoise StateW 28 – 30Final
      Sat, Nov 5vsUtah StateW 28 – 52Final
      Sat, Nov 12@UNLVL 66 – 69Final
      Sat, Nov 19vsSan Diego StateW 33 – 34Final
      Sat, Nov 26 @ New Mexico L 35 – 56 Final
      Sat, Dec 3 vs San Diego State L 27 – 24 Final
      Wed, Dec 21 vs BYU 9:00 PM

  51. Mike E. says:


    Would you pay Mario Williams $10M next season?

    • Tim Knight says:

      No and I think we’ll release him. He along with Wake getting up there in age is why I think we need to go DE early. I’d use some of that money from Williams to re-sign Branch.

      • Mike E. says:

        OK, wasn’t sure, it seemed like you may have been defending him.

      • Rockphin says:

        well we have Dion Jordan……….Four years…….39 tackles……3 sacks…..

        First & second round pick……..


      • Tim Knight says:

        Well he did start playing well early in the season then got a concussion. He wasn’t the same after that and then hurt his ankle. He’s missed two games because of each. But I do not think he’s worth $10.5M next season and his cap hit is only $2M. I reallocate that money to Branch who took his job along with Wake.

        We’ll likely sign a DE in FA and draft one top two rounds.

  52. Mike E. says:


    Jordan was a killer. Imagine how the Redskins felt with RG III

  53. Rockphin says:

    Mike, I am slogging through “The first King of Shannara” right now. I read all the other Shannara books years ago. I’m about 1/2 through and if I had ANYTHING else on deck to read, I would be reading it now.

  54. Tim Knight says:

    I’ve moved on from Jordan. He busted out a long time ago.

  55. Rockphin says:

    Dion Jordan (Colossal Bust)

  56. herdfan says:

    Rockphin says:
    December 16, 2016 at 4:01 pm (Edit)
    Man, when is it going to cool off? It is freaking hot out there. It’s December!
    Rockphin says:
    December 16, 2016 at 4:01 pm (Edit)
    (HE HE HE)

    Guess you haven’t learned. Might have to send you back to blog time-out. 😉

  57. Tim Knight says:

    We’ll have an extra $3M per for not picking up Jordan’s 5th year option with no cap hit. Use that and Williams’ money ($8.5M) to re-invest at DE – Branch, UFA and draft.

    • stangerx says:

      Did the Phins say Jordan was done? I thought they just didn’t activate and read somewhere that not activating might actually push back his contract a year (although that seemed uncertain). He gets himself together and $3 mil ain’t all that much….even if it includes a big old “But”?

      • Tim Knight says:

        I’m not counting on him that’s all. We’ll see. I’d rather use some of that money to find another guy like Branch who’s still young, plays hard and has upside. Jordan has not shown football is real important to him.

  58. bookman11 says:

    Too bad the game is not tonight. The 7-10 inches of snow has started, and if I am going to just sit here and drink and watch TV, the Fins might as well be playing.

  59. naplesfan2010 says:

    My score pick is supposed to be 16-14MIA.

  60. Rockphin says:

    LOL@Herd I will stop rubbing it in

  61. drg says:

    If Tannenbaum blows are entire cap space on a bunch of high priced free agents I will lose it. We have a good enough team to compete and seems like the right coaching staff to keep it rolling. Focus on loading up in the draft and only sign good value FAs. I want a team full of young/hungry players and proven vets who lead. Most FAs don’t fit either of those criteria.

    Williams is a great example of how you swing and miss in FA. One year deal where we had some good upside. It didn’t work out and we aren’t any worse off going forward.

    • Mike E. says:

      I don’t think he’s going on a major spree, but if he can find a LB, either a OG or OC, that’s a great start as far as I’m concerned. We have to spend a certain amount anyway, as long as we don’t spend it foolishly

    • Tim Knight says:

      Why do you think that’s the plan? It didn’t happen last year and we will have money to add some solid players this year.

      People seem to think FAs are just crazy money and the players don’t have value. They’re not all getting OV money. Some are patchwork guys for a year who can play and help you while you develop younger players, or you sign say a 5th year LB who was a former 6th rd pick who has developed over 4 years and is in his prime. He became a pro and maybe his former team can’t sign everyone they want and him as well. There is always some turnover for every team.

      FA isn’t a bad thing, it’s part of the process. You don’t have to go bonkers to be active and try to improve in FA. I expect us to sign a DE, LB, OL and TE in FA and do the same in the draft. Double up with FA and the draft, not doubling up with rookies who have varied learning curves.

  62. Mike E. says:

    I don’t care if it’s cold tomorrow night, this team is built for that. J-Train TOUGH!

  63. 81Howie says:

    Afternoon Update
    Howie 29-17 MIA
    Toba 24-9 MIA
    Piggy 20-3 MIA
    MikeE 16-9 MIA
    B’man 27-13 MIA
    Rock 30-16 NYJ
    Old 20-16 MIA
    Herd 23-17 MIA
    Prof 24-9 MIA
    Wyo 35-12 MIA
    BriNY 27-17 MIA
    Vinnie 17-6 MIA
    Tim 23-16 MIA
    Stang 31-27 MIA

  64. 81Howie says:

    I have no idea how I came all the way across the keyboard and hit the 9 instead of the 4.
    I think I better proof read my list once in a while

  65. Mike E. says:


    What was on your screen when you came all the way across your keyboard?

  66. 81Howie says:

    Hey MikeE
    Naples gave me his score 16-14 MIA but somehow I typed in 16-19 MIA
    First off 16-19 is ass backward and I never caught it but I have it correct on my paper 16-14MIA
    Well in all my confusion tonight I forgot to write

  67. OD,
    Mike Hull? Seriously? He’s a backup LB at best. That’s it. Maybe he’s a starter on a Coyle D but not this one.

  68. Mike E. says:

    What shitty weather this morning. I had heard there was going to be freezing rain, which it was doing when I was ready to leave, but there were a couple of inches of annoying snow/slush on my car that didn’t want to come off. The ride to work wasn’t bad, although most of the roads weren’t cleared well at all yet, and thankfully, not too many assholes cars on the road this early.

  69. son of a son of a shula says:

    Game Day!!!


  70. wyoming85 says:

  71. Ken says:

    Game day huzzah!

  72. Ken says:

    It won’t be pleasant at MetLife tonight

  73. Temps during the game should hover around 40 the entire game and very little wind. Good news for us.

  74. Mike E. says:

    Tell ’em Lou!

  75. 81Howie says:

    Game Day Update
    look up there a few posts
    Where in the world is the game day blog?
    Does Herd not know we are playing on Saturday this week

  76. Rockphin says:



  77. Ken says:

    Is the weather machine we have only at home or do we take it on the road too?

  78. Mike E. says:

    No rush Howie – It’s Game NIGHT this time. She’ll have it up a little later I’m sure.

  79. herdfan says:

    I know it’s gameday. I’ll put up a new post in a bit. Sorry Howie.

  80. Rockphin says:

    I expect us to sign a DE, LB, OL and TE in FA and do the same in the draft. Double up with FA and the draft, not doubling up with rookies who have varied learning curves.

    Tim I expect us to sign way more than that. Nearly 1/2 the roster are free agents this year. 24 of the 53 are not under contract in 2017. We will resign many of them but I think there will be a large turnout this year as well.

  81. Rockphin says:

    We will come out of the draft with perhaps five or six players.

    The majority of them will not be ready to play in 2017. that means we are going to need at least 20 free agents.

  82. Rockphin says:

    Ken says:
    December 17, 2016 at 9:27 am

    Is the weather machine we have only at home or do we take it on the road too?
    Ken, the weather control array it’s located in Alaska so it will work anywhere.

  83. 81Howie says:

    No problem Herd.
    I just have nothing to do this morning being work is getting slow. I’ve just been stewing around here since the darn Cat woke me up way to early thinking I had to go to work

  84. Ajayi going for the 1,000 yd mark tonight. Hope Gase runs the ball down the Jets throat tonight.
    Also, FYI on next weeks game, it’s supposed to be 40 in Orchard Park next Saturday too.

  85. herdfan says:

    I added a Game Day blog…It should show up momentarily. The game is on NFL network so hopefully no viewing issues for anyone. Everyone have a great day, I’ll be back for the game.

  86. Rock,
    I would hope one of those DE’s would be Branch and wouldn’t mine seeing Jones back as well. Would like to see them come out of draft with a DE too weather it be Charlton, Walker or Smoot.
    But, yeah, we should be seeing at least one player from each of those positions signed during the offseason.
    As far as the draft goes I wouldn’t be upset if they traded up in the first to get either Cunningham or Foster.

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