The season finally begins for the Miami Dolphins! No need to explain why, we all know about Hurricane Irma, and what she did to FLA, and pertaining to football, what she did to the Dolphins and the schedule. So here comes GAME 1, and we’re already in LA, as the Dolphins traveled out a few days ago to get out away from Irma, and now start practicing for their 1st game of the season.
The Chargers gave the Broncos a good fight on MNF, coming all the way down to the last few seconds of the game, when Chargers kicker Younghoe Koo lined up for a game tying 44 yard FG, which the Broncos blocked in order to preserve the victory. The Broncos stuck to the ground game against the Chargers, with a combination of C.J. Anderson and former Chiefs RB Jamaal Charles. Denver rushed a total of 36 times, Anderson 20, Charles 10 and QB Trevor Semian 6, for a grand total of 140 yards, and QB Trevor Semian had the only rushing TD for DEN.
Although the Chargers didn’t run that much against the Broncos, if they have success against our front 7, I think they will continue to pound the ball on us with a combination of RB Melvin Gordon and Brandon Oliver. The Chargers only ran 22 times against DEN, but Rivers had success through the air, throwing 3 TD’s and completing 22 of 33 attempts for 192 yards. Of course being down 24-7 in the 3rd quarter changes your gameplan, so even if they wanted to run, they needed to throw to catch up.
The Dolphins O-line will be tested against these Chargers. The Chargers front 7 is stocked with talent. 2nd year DE Joey Bosa brings the heat from the Left side (Like Cam Wake), and DT’s Corey Liuget and Brandon Mebane are stout interior defenders along with another good pass rusher, DE Melvin Ingram. Ingram also moves to OLB, and that versatility makes him worth that much more. Dolphins need to know where Ingram is all the time.
The Dolphins will be starting 2nd year OL Laremy Tunsil at LT, with veteran Anthony Steen next to him at LG. All Pro Mike Pouncey will start at C, with veteran RG Jermon Bushrod next to him. RT Ja’Wuan James is the other bookend. This line will have it’s hands full with the Chargers D-line, especially Bosa, who will be a serious challenge to start the season for Ja’Wuan James.
The Dolphins have to get the J-Train rolling, and keep it rolling. We all have visions of Jay Cutler throwing rainbows all over the field to Parker, Stills and Grant, because he can, but if the Dolphins are going to be successful in 2017, the J-train will once again be the key. Cutler will challenge defenses deep, and that’s great, but let’s keep that in check, and let the J-train tire out the defense, give us the edge in T.O.P, and keep the defense rested. We know Ajayi gets tons of yards after contact, but it would be great if that contact wasn’t 2 yards in the backfield, and maybe 5 yards upfield. I expect this offense will never be built for Jay Cutler to do too much, but rather just enough. Some games we’ll have to lean on him, but that won’t be the plan going in.
With Devante Parker, Kenny Stills, Jarvis Landry, Jakeem Grant, Leonte Carroo, Julius Thomas and Kenyan Drake, there is a plethora of targets for Cutler. He’s got to feel good about that. That being said, let’s hope Cutler doesn’t need to throw the ball 30 times or more. I’d like to see us run the ball 25-30 times, and Cutler have 25 or less pass attempts. Of course the game may dictate otherwise, but that would be ideal in my mind.
On defense, I expect to see a smattering of Rey Maualuga. I think he’ll be out there to start, but there will be plenty of substitutions, with Hull seeing plenty (read majority) of the playing time. Timmons and Alonso will be in the nickel, and probably Alonso in the dime. Can’t wait to see #20 (Reshad Jones) back patrolling the secondary, and I’m also curious to see who starts opposite Xavien Howard at CB. I think we’ll see both Maxwell and Verner, but I think we’d be better served with Maxwell on the perimeter and Verner inside. As for the “battle” on the D-line, it looks like the Dolphins took the safe route, and will have Jordan Phillips line up next to Suh, but Godchaux will see time as well, especially if Phillips isn’t perceived to be giving max effort. That’s something to keep an eye on.
So, Game 1 of 16 in a row starts Sunday at 4:05PM in Los Angeles for our Miami Dolphins. I know I’m amped up, I would imagine you are too.
GO DOLPHINS! Zero in!
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Not sure where they stand this year yet, but the Broncos weren’t very good last year and the Chargers were even worse.
Yet ESPN is saying, include LAC how great that division is.
Nice write Mike E.. I will be attending my 1st Dolphins season opener with my son. GO PHINS !!
WTG Doggy! Represent! Enjoy the game, may you bring us a W!
Too Funny.. My 3 dogs have the same jerseys and wear them all day on game days.
Enjoy the game.
Thanks Mike E. Actually the first time have thought about the details of game other than to check the spread. Your informed take makes me wonder whether I should start Cutler in FF…but can’t help myself.
Hey man, it’s just my opinion, I could easily be wrong, and Cutty may throw for 400 yards with 5 TD’s.
Nice write up mike. Right now vegas has them favored by 4.5. So they think on a neutral field the chargers are a better team. We’ll see.
Thanks Boulder
With the Chargers being closer to Vegas and sometimes refered to as LAs playground, you get an inflated number. The Raiders odds for the SB have been highly inflated for similar reasons. If you guys bet or are in pools where you pick the games keep this in mind.
I saw Paul McCartney last night. The guy is 75 years old and is still rockin and rollin. Amazing!
Maybe he’s amazed . . .
Lol Tim, we all saw what he has left at the SB a few years ago.
Maybe just a bad night. He and his band were fantastic last night. Remember he’s 75. His voice can’t be what it was in his 20’s and 30’s, but he can still hit some notes and play all the instruments at a high level.
Good preview Mike E
GO PHINS
I say our first offensive play of the game we go old school and throw a 9 route to Parker! Let’s open this beotch up and get jiggy with it. And then run the ball 15 straight times. Lol
Thats one way, but when you miss on that first pass it puts you in a hole.
I’ve always been a fan of doing this early in a game.
Good write up, Mike. I always reply before giving props for some reason. 🙂
Its just Mike, no need to apologize, he is only going to forget you gave props or apologized anyways….old people never remember. He probably doesn’t even remember writing this and gave props to himself by accident.
I still will never understand the dislike of Stephen Ross, IMO he consisently does the right things. Im sure OD, you have legit complaints by the man, im not discrediting those. I think those seem aimed at the man because of something im unaffected by, which is being a season ticket holder. Personally though, i just haven’t seen much from my perspective that he hasn’t handled well. This was a classy move, and i bet its not the end of the assistance he will give through other organizations in the area.
OD never met an owner he liked — least till they no longer were — but with all the money and effort he puts into being at Phins games, he has no reason not to look for the same respect in return. Man drives over three hours each way.
Thats why i said i dont take anything away from his feelings on the matter. My perspective is different from his though, and from my viewpoint i like Ross as an owner.
My problem is he blames Ross for petty issues in the organization, that he most likely isn’t even aware of. I only care about team related things from the owner.
Wasn’t going against your point at all, just pointing out the sweat capital the man has in the team. Only live 30 minutes away, but figure 4 games in stadium is the max I want each year with all involved…..makes him a better fan than me.
Randy ill take Grant/Drake returning the opening kickoff for a TD as my way to start the game off on the right foot. Then Parker and Ajayi getting 200 yards each will just ice the cake. LOL 🙂
steve,
“Why so serious?” I was just playing Devil’s advocate, but you can try to run the ball on that first play, lose 2 yards and be in an even bigger hole! That said, I think this offense has really been held back by an inability to stretch the field and get defenses to pull that extra defender out of the box. We have been trying to run the ball when the numbers aren’t in our favor a lot over the past 5 years. You’re not gonna be consistently successful if you’re constantly trying to block 6 or 7 defenders with 5 or 6 blockers. Counting on your RB to make that final defender miss constantly hasn’t worked real well for us.
I’m not sure about throwing the deep pass on first play, but I agree that we should start by passing the ball to soften the run game. A few quick completions does the trick.
Ajayi is pretty damn good at doing that though.
For that to happen we have to have a QB that burns people every time they blitz. Im not sure that guy is Cutler and im not sure it will ever be true with Tanny, im hopeful however that either Cutler this year or Tanny if he is still around next year will begin to do this. When that happens, having a guy like Ajayi and Drake in the backfield will really open up this offense on 1st down and i think we will seem more 2nd and shorts or at least 3rd and shorts instead of the 3rd and longs we have become accustomed to.
Cutler’s pocket presence and pocket mobility looked pretty good in PS, and he plays with a sense of confidence in his throws we aren’t accustomed to with Tanny. I think toward the end of the year last year it was starting to get better with Tanny but this amount of time off the field isn’t going to help with that. Its going to be a hard decision to mak at the end of the year with him, and i think it will be despite how well cutler plays.
Im reall not trying to shake the pro or anti Tanny tree but this was a very bad time for him to lose an entire season, especially if Cutler (which a lot of people had us picking up in FA) plays well. I also am not pro Cutler by any stretch of the imagination, he seems always one pulled thread away from coming completely unraveled, but he already looks more comfortable in our offense than Tanny ever did.
Even if not on the first play, don’t think we have to worry about the field being stretched. BTW Cutler and our receivers thinking DBs will be thinking “this game could either be heaven or hell.”
D, we haven’t seen Cutler play in a real game with us yet. Remember Tanny was playing at a real high level during that 6 game win streak. However I do think Cutler will play well. He’ll have some off games like all QBs do, but I think he’ll have some real good games too.
I know, im not saying it will happen, but he looks and feels the part better right now than i have ever seen out of Tanny, including that 6 game stretch which is some of the best i have seen him in his career. I just think right now, Tanny was on the upswing and only thing that helps him improve is game time, so i dont see how an already looming large situation with his salary and cap savings cutting him after this season and no real chance to prove he is worth it is going to bode well for him.
The two major events that could help him is an absolute flop by Cutler, to go along with questionable readiness of any QB draftee we would have a shot at in that scenario, or us do well, and Cutler decide to either go back to retirement or ask for a ridiculous amount of money.
Throwing deep on the first play and missing puts us in 2nd and 10. Not the end of the world. You could throw an incomplete on a short pass on 1st down. I like the idea of challenging a defense down the field early a few times to let them know you’re going to take shots. They already know they have to key on Ajayi or it’s going to be a long day for them.
I think though you do that after you have built some confidence in your offense. I dont think first play of the game would be smart. The deep pass play on 1st down is usually something you do once you know your running game is really working too, its usually set up by previous success with that. You do have the element of surprise on that first play, i just am not sure its the best move, so im going to have to agree with Steve.
Fair enough. I’m saying early though. It doesn’t have to be first play. Maybe after getting a 1st down on the first set of downs.
I have no problem throwing a deep pass early, just not the first play of the season.
Randy, how did you take what I said as being so serious, when I just pointed out my preference? Talk about serious you go on a rant, using the worst possibly thing we can do as justification. Who is this Randy, he’s not the easy going Randy I’m used to😀
Again, my statement is more about how badly not playing this year hurts Tanny’s chances of remaining on the team and not a vote to get rid of him. Im out of those discussion now, they never end up well, so from this point forward all my discussions about Tanny arent what i want to do with him, its more a discussion of logic about what the team may do.
The worst thing that could have happened to Tanny happened this off season, not just the injury but the approach they put towards finding a replacement for him. They could have easily said “Thats the breaks”, and let Moore handle the season, or even traded for a guy like McCarron or Osweiler, who wouldn’t have been replacement type options, but offered more than Moore in a starting role and would have come at a minimal cost, like a 4thish draft pick.
They instead went out and got a former starting QB, who our coach liked and paid him significantly to play for us. They got a guy with all the QB tools to play with and brought him into a situation with a guy who has been under the microscope of never having shown those skills and arguably at best has had 6 games where he showed he was starting to get there. To me there is a logic here that says, this isn’t the pattern of a team who is not at the very least flirting with the idea of making a move to move on at the end of the season.
Like you said though, we havent seen Cutler in a big boy game, and we dont know anything about the season. Im not arguing that at all. Im just simply saying, what was best for Tanny to be seen as our QB of the future just significantly changed. Its not about wanting it to happen or not wanting it to happen, it just is the way it looks to me.
That’s fair enough as well. I’m just focused on this season and then we’ll see what’s up during the offseason. It sucks what happened to RT.
Yep, really bad timing for him. He is legitimately a quality player and probably couldnt hope for a more enthusiastic and physically tough player. Scary how a guy can going from a living punching bag that just always gets back up for more to struggling to get healthy. This is a very brutal game, and with brutal consequences, because it only takes one injury to completely unravel a career.
Tim Knight says:
September 13, 2017 at 12:32 pm
Fair enough. I’m saying early though. It doesn’t have to be first play. Maybe after getting a 1st down on the first set of downs.
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I completely expect that. I think thats the beauty and possibly the scary part of Cutler is that that is his game and i think thats how Gase likes to roll too. The NFL is built to concede dink and dunk teams, so you either have to have players that can really turn dink and dunk into big plays or you have to take a shot every once and a while. NE is the dink and dunk champions and they have done well in both aspects, setting up a big play and also getting the most out of the little ones. Gase i think plans on the same, you can tell by the personnel he is bringing in.
My guess is we will see several shots at big plays in 1st down scenarios as long as we have been equally playing well in our running game. If our running game isn’t there, i expect to see a lot of Landry and Stills on quick hitter in space, maybe even some Grantman.
I think Grantman is our sleeper on offense. He showed real good progress in camp and the PS. Not just on the big TD or the other big sideline play, but going up high for a ball was impressive as well.
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sans the part about flirting at the end of the season. At the end of the season the team will evaluate the QB situation, but they didn’t go with Cutler to replace RT after this year, they didn’t want to throw in the towel this year. If Cutler turns out to be great RT will be gone.
This was in response we to Ds 12:46 post.
Cutler will also be 35 next season so you have to take that into account as well.
He can play 5 more years, so I don’t put much stock into his age. I’d rather have a QB that you can win an SB with for 5 years, than one that can at best win a playoff game. I’m not saying either fits the SB QB, just saying that if Cutler is that I’d take him for 5 years.
Let me ask a few questions then.
If Cutler does well, do they still cut him loose at the end of the year and hand things back to Tanny? Do they evaluate them first, ie bring them both back in for competition and then make the appropriate cut at the end of the PS/TC? Do they go business solution and go with the cheaper of the two options? Keep in mind other players who we are going to have to be paying a lot of money to in the next two years. Resign Cutler on the cheap, let him salvage a career with the one coach he liked playing for? Get Tanny to restructure?
Same questions, but he only does ok, not great. Does it totally hinge on playing great, or would it hinge simply on doing as well as we have had previously?
Cutler is 35, Tanny is going to be 30 next year. Tanny was getting the offense towards the end of the year, Cutler may already have it. So would you go with Cutler with likelihood of 3 years left, but 3 years without having to wait for more development time, or Tanny with the likelihood of more but still developing at age 30? Are either a long term solution given their current statuses? Do we still need to draft for the future regardless of the option we go with?
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Is that a different distinction, “Modern era”? Is that a regular nomination, or something different?
Not sure.
steve,
No worries! I was just joking around. I didn’t think I ranted. I was just having some fun. I don’t really care what we do on that first play. It’s just one play and not a big deal one way or another.
I think we got Cutler because our depth behind Moore was abominable, and they didn’t think Moore could take us through an entire season, because he never had. Cutler is a talented veteran QB who knows Gase’s system, respects Gase, and wanted to come out of retirement to play for him, as well as a nice sum of money. It’s a one year contract, so ditching Tannehill at this juncture is a little premature.
^, but I don’t hear anyone ditching RT. What I’ve said is Cutler’s ceiling is higher.
If you look at Tannehill’s numbers vs. Cutler’s you could easily argue RT’s ceiling is higher as his numbers would be better than Cutler’s over the same amount of seasons. The other thing is we don’t get to see what RT would have done in year 2 under Gase with the talent we have. That said, go Cutler, go Phins!!!!
Mike E. says:
September 13, 2017 at 2:17 pm
Is that a different distinction, “Modern era”? Is that a regular nomination, or something different?
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The “modern era” is the Super Bowl/post-merger era, Bro. 1966 season onward.
I get that, but why even bother making the distinction? We know when these players played, right?
I think if our offense is working really well, i think we could see these kinda of stats from our players as a per game average over the season.
Kenny Stills 4-6 catches, 1 15-29 yarder, 60 YPG +/- 10, .5 TD’s
Devante Parker 3-5 catches 1 15-29 yarders, .5 30+ yarder, 80 YPG +/- 20, .75 TD’s
Jarvis Landry 6-7 catches, .5 15-29 yarder, 60 YPG +/- 20, .25TD’s
Julius Thomas 3-4 catches, .5 15-29 yarder, 40 YPG +/- 10, .5TD’s
Miscellanous other players including RB’s and players who sub in for the starters.
4-5 catches, 1 15-29 yarder, 60 YPG, +/- 10, .25 TD’s
If so that would mean Cutler passes for 225-365 YPG, 2.5 TD’s, on 20-27 passes and roughly 4 plays above 15-29 yards and one really big pass play of +30 yards every other game.
Finally i think rushing, i think we see somewhere between 18-24 touches for Ajayi a game, probably a 100 +/- 15 YPG and .75 TD’s.
Miscellaneous other rushers 6-10 touches 75 YPG +/- 10 .5TD’s
That would give us on offense, as a team, a balance of 20-27 passes to 24-34 rushes per game. A per game average of 26.25 points. 255-400 yards passing, 140-210 yards rushing,
This would/should be good enough to win most games IF our defense can play respectably. ST’s and defense therefore will still have to give us a little lift if we want to beat the better teams, where we probably would be on the short side of the average.
Finally that would give us Parker with approximately 960-1600 Yards receiving 12TD’s on 48-80 receptions. Stills with 800-1120 YPG, 8TD’s on 64-96 receptions. Landry 640-1280 YPG 4TD’s on 96-112 receptions. Thomas with 480-800 YPG, 8TD’s on 48-64 catches. Ajayi would have 1360-1840 total rushing yards on 288-384 rushes, 12 TD’s, Cutler would be have 320-432 completions for 3600-5840 YPG and 32 TD’s.
Obviously the high range on the number of passing yards for Cutler is unreal, but if he were to get 365 yards passing a game that’s what it would be, that though isn’t going to happen so there might be a 365 game in there, i see the potential for it, but its going to be the exception, not the rule. I could easily see him breaking the 4K mark though in total yards, possibly pushing into the 4500-4800 range. Also the likelihood of our players all hitting their high range capabilities is next to none so i expect if maybe Stills is at his high range, a player like Landry might be at their lower range.
The biggest things that stick out is other rushers 6-10 for 75 yards, and Parker averaging 20 per catch. These numbers look really inflated, some could happen, but if they do I’d expect higher numbers from the others, when talking about team nunbers.
Other rushers i mean total, counting QB sneaks/rushes, Jets sweeps to a WR, other backs subbing in, etc. It might be a little high but i think we will manage 50 at least among all the other potential rush plays dont you?
steveccnv says:
September 13, 2017 at 11:34 am
Thats one way, but when you miss on that first pass it puts you in a hole.
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Yeah, but when you score a TD on the first play it puts you ahead. (funny how that works 😉
LOL
Yeah FN hilarious, if you’re 6.
LA Chargers, SMH.
Hmm, what do you guys think we’ll do on our 14th offensive play of the game?
I’m going to be pretty upset if it’s a running play to the left. Maybe we can pull that shite later in the season, but not against the LA Chargers!
LMAO!!!!
I see Tim’s easily amused today🤡
Better than being aggravated. I like to laugh.
True that, but I’d rather laugh at something worth laughing at.
It’s still good energy. 🙂
jetsssuck says:
September 13, 2017 at 2:45 pm
dude I’m not even done reading the other novel yet.
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Im testing your theory that you might die of old age before you finish a post, so far so goo, if your posting at least something still working over there 🙂
jetsssuck says:
September 13, 2017 at 10:17 am
so the circular pillars that we see in the news is like stilts to build that foundation for that floor?. I imagine special cement is also used.
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the cranes i worked on did not go to the bottom floor, they were wedged in the elevator shaft and only went down 4 to 5 floors, they were no affixed to the foundation. we used hydraulic jacks to raise them, the cranes rose as the building did.
I think the fact that Miami will have more than a full week to prepare in Los Angeles instead of flying in a couple of days prior to the game is an advantage for Miami.
Steve i get what your saying now. 6-10 for 75 is a big average per rush. Im kind of expecting someone like Drake or Grant to bust one so its probably still high, maybe 50 is a better number.
Also i think Parker’s average might be high like you said, i could see him in the 15 per catch range, so there probably will be more receptions, but yardage would stay roughly the same.
Figure about 4 yards per carry, with Damien under it and Drake over.
When that happens, having a guy like Ajayi and Drake in the backfield will really open up this offense on 1st down and i think we will seem more 2nd and shorts or at least 3rd and shorts instead of the 3rd and longs we have become accustomed to.
I thought Gase had a funny come back to one of the reporters who questioned him on our terrible 3rd down efficiency after one of the preseason games. Paraphrasing here “well, we will just have to avoid those situations” Meaning not getting to 3rd down.
LOL
He’s pretty witty when the dumbass comments start pouring out.
Reading his comments to dumbass questions is good, but not nearly as good as watching him reply to them and watching his facial expressions and body language lol.
Yeah Gase is a pisser when things get dumb. You can see he wants to say okay I’m done but this is part of the job so I’ll deal with it.
In my best Madden impersonation….
So ya see when the offense fails to get yardage on first down it leaves you in a situation where you have to still get all the yardage on second down, but if you score a TD on that play you dont have to get the 10 yards anymore because you get to kick it to the other team, ya see. Its a much better strategy to do the second one, instead of the first one, and if you do it enough time, you usually win the game.
Parker’s YPCA could very easily be between 15-20 with how we use him. He’s not going to see a lot of under 10 yard targets. The occasional screen and quick slant, but that’s about it. I see more deep outs, crossing, posts and go routes.
They got a guy with all the QB tools to play with and brought him into a situation with a guy who has been under the microscope of never having shown those skills and arguably at best has had 6 games where he showed he was starting to get there.
Cannot disagree with you any more than I do.
Except he’s played a lot more good games than 6. Let’s not forget the stupid offenses he played in. Pass 40/Rush 10. Those were the days. LOL
up until last year we have always had a hard time beating the chargers at the chargers
Most teams struggle in road coast to coast games.
Its funny to me that a guy like Sanchez still has a place to call home in the NFL. Seems to me being a former first rounder, and former starter, but having a recent playing history of bouncing all over the place with multiple rookies starting ahead of you, and multiple times winding up as 3rd on the depth chart would be worse than say a former 7th rounder in the same position.
When do people finally stop and realize that he had this really high level of potential that he never met, or hell never got close to. The poor 7th round guy at least got a lot closer to his potential. Why don’t they just stop fucking around with a guy who has had multiple stops to finally find his very high potential but never does. To me it says a lot about a person when they do the best with what they go and even more about a person who doesnt. I wouldnt waste my time on that guy, he taking up a roster spot that some person who might do more with it could have had.
I guess that’s how difficult it is to find competent QBs.
Or maybe its just people are looking less at the character of the person and too much over the program he came from or one or two stats they picked out of the bunch to drool over.
Rockphin says:
September 13, 2017 at 3:44 pm
They got a guy with all the QB tools to play with and brought him into a situation with a guy who has been under the microscope of never having shown those skills and arguably at best has had 6 games where he showed he was starting to get there.
Cannot disagree with you any more than I do.
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Like Gase himself has said many time, Cutler can make all the throws, he has a very good arm. On top of that he is much better with his pocket presence, mobility in the pocket and overall confidence in his throws. Tannehill still need a lot of work in those areas. The area that Tannehill hands down beats him is mental game. Tannehill gets rattled, but he also maintains a positive attitude and perseveres, and Cutler is know to be a brooding man-child crybaby when things arent going his way. There is 0 way though that you can say that they are on equal footing as far as QB specific skill development. If you had read and digested my post fully, im not saying Cutler is great, im saying he is much further along than Tanny.
Tim, yes it is true that he was stunted in his development, but what happening in the past doesn’t help him in the present. The 6 games, that was brought up by someone other than me are the 6 games showing the consistency and growth to believe he is getting there. The past, even if you dig up a game that showed he played well, its followed by others where he didn’t, those only show he had a good game, it didn’t show he progressed.
steveccnv says:
September 13, 2017 at 3:35 pm
True that, but I’d rather laugh at something worth laughing at.
Ahhh come on little buddy. You ARE worth it.
Ok ok guys ill leave Tanny alone for now. Its apparently still a nipple rubber of a subject it seems. Again, im not against him, im just posing thought for discussion. I am more trying to see whats the general consensus here with if we have a QB controversy or are headed for one. I think we are personally.
I don’t think anyone is upset about the conversation. I think Tannehill is better than he’s given credit for but he’s not elite. Doesn’t have to be either because there are only a handful of elite QBs in the league. People tend to confuse franchise QB and elite QB. Franchise is a team is invested in a guy as their QB and not looking to replace him every year. Elite means off the charts good. At least that’s how I see it.
Eli is a franchise QB, he is not Elite even though you can’t spell elite without Eli. (my example to support your post Tim)
I think there are certain skills a good QB has to have to fare well in this league, i think Tanny has them at an “improving” status, and has not yet reached his top potential. Part of that is due to the developmental year being stunted by bad coaching. That said i completely agree with you, he isnt an elite QB, and likely will never be. Id settle for consistently good, and i do believe you can with with a consistently good, not great, QB. You have to have a lot more around him to pull it of, but its doable.
Elite to me means that some of the core QB skills are well above the good level. Most QB’s don’t have them all, but a few of them like Brady and Rodgers, etc have a good majority, if not all of them at that level. Matt Ryan has a few of them. Ben Rapeburger, same. Phillip Rivers, same. Its not enough to carry a team, and you can see with Rivers, but its something to build around, which is what i call Franchise.
Thats said, I don’t know if i think Tanny is a franchise player, i think we certainly have invested in him like we think he is, but his level of consistency with any of those aforementioned skills doesn’t make me believe we have it to where we can build around him to create a championship caliber team. If he locks down a couple of those skills, then we can certainly find the players to work around the ones he stays average in, but he hasn’t gotten there yet. If he does, we have a franchise player, and that would be good enough to win championships with. Im not convince he will though. He’s about half way through a career and he still is in a learning phase, that’s not a really great place to be.
There is 0 way though that you can say that they are on equal footing as far as QB specific skill development.
D, this is a subject that is well, subjective. We cannot argue this. I can point to stats but someone will says stats aren’t real and / or stats can be made to show what you want them to. I watched a lot of Cutler when he played for Denver. (my family all lives in CO and are fans) There were very very few Bronco’s fans that were upset they traded him away.
All I can do is point the stats for their careers. Tanny’s are better for the most part across the board and he “hasn’t reached his ceiling” IM (worthless) O Tanny will be back next year as the starter unless something drastic happens.
Rock you can easily see some of the skills i mentions and the fact that Cutler is superior. All you have to do it actually watch their games side by side without getting starry-eyed entranced by a ginger QB. They aren’t hard to spot, hell Moore when he came in for us at the end of the year, while not being the same level of athletic ability, was superior is some of those aspects as well, watch those games.
Stats are real, and i get what your saying, stats are hard to compare two different types of QBs in two different types of system but ultimately you are helped to the statistics you have.
The big one for a QB is W’s, and 68-71 (49%) is better than 37-40 (48%, Tannehill) slightly. Just like comp percentage of 62.7 is slightly better than 61.9 (Cutler), and 7.2 YPPA is slightly better than 7.0 (Tanny) and 1.7 TD/INT ratio, is slightly better than 1.62 (Tanny) and 239.67 yards per game is slightly better than 233.58 (Cutler). So i dont get your statistics statement, unless you have another stat you are saying shows this.
Either way, its not really subjective or you could say all evaluation is subjective. They eyeball test to me is the most important. Its how you can differentiate between a player like Matt Ryan and a guy like Aaron Rogers. You can see the difference in those players just by watching them, just as you can see the difference in players between Cutler and Tannehill just by watching this preseason.
D
I can’t say that Tanny is what most would consider a “Franchise QB”, but I sure would like to see him in the same offense, with the same coach (Gase) with the talent we have now on offense for 3 years in a row, and see what he can do.
Andy Dalton is the Bengals franchise QB but he’s not an elite player. The same for Stafford and Palmer and guys like that. Teams roll with those guys but they are not Rodgers, Brees and Brady good. That’s what my point is. There are other positions that fall into these categories. Teams hang onto or target good consistent players who aren’t elite but pay them like they are. See Olivier Vernon.
I guess that’s fair. I don’t really know what defines elite or franchise, but I think an elite QB is someone that the greater majority of teams would want as their starting QB, like a top 10 QB for at least a 3-5 year span. You can have an elite season, but can you repeat it or come close year after year.
Maulauga has a hamstring strain, not practicing, which means he’s not starting, and most likely not playing either.
I like your Madden Impersonation BTW D. God he was awful sometimes
He needed a “Boom” somewhere in there but otherwise pretty good.
One thing that’s very important, and IMO a huge advantage for a QB is being in the same system, with the same coach, and some of the same players at the skill positions around them. QB’s like Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Eli Manning have had that, and makes a huge difference.
Elite QB’s don’t get coaches fired
Brees walked into a new system and played well right out of the gate. He elevated his play from where he left off in SD with a completely different staff/scheme, etc. in one year from entering the new scheme he was 13-3 and won the Superbowl. Eli was playing almost immediately at a high level. His first full year as the starter, he was 11-5 and they won their division. Rogers definately has been in the same scheme since McCarthy has remained constant and he is basically the OC as well as HC.
Tim Knight says:
September 13, 2017 at 4:38 pm
Andy Dalton is the Bengals franchise QB but he’s not an elite player. The same for Stafford and Palmer and guys like that. Teams roll with those guys but they are not Rodgers, Brees and Brady good. That’s what my point is. There are other positions that fall into these categories. Teams hang onto or target good consistent players who aren’t elite but pay them like they are. See Olivier Vernon.
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Id never call Dalton a franchise player. A team can invest in whatever they want but there has to be a “build around him” mentality, where they can commit to what he does best and make a championship caliber team around him. What Dalton does have going for him in the talk of franchise player is that the team has made it to the playoffs multiple years in a row with him. They have also lost every year in the first round of those playoffs because he cannot elevate that team past winning in the regular season. Bengals should really invest in another QB because from what they seem to do they are looking to build around AJ Green, and hopefully Joe Mixon, so you could pretty much insert any QB into that system and it would be the same as how they are approaching things with Dalton. Tanny is closer to being a franchise guy than Dalton.
Matthew Stafford to me is a franchise QB, because he has some elite level QB skills, though he isn’t an “elite” QB because he only has a couple of elite level skills and is not at the level of a Rogers, Brady, Brees, etc as an overall player, and his team specifically has put players around him that build around those skills. Palmer use to be a franchise guy, maybe even a fringe elite QB, but isn’t close currently.
Mike E. says:
September 13, 2017 at 3:57 pm
I get that, but why even bother making the distinction? We know when these players played, right?
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Rules changed to accommodate both leagues (AFL and old NFL) what with the merger, so as to bring them into ONE as the now National Football League.
As such, some of the old records prior to the merger are WOW! Same thing with Major League Baseball, but they don’t have a said ‘point’ by which we can differentiate the old school from the new school (mound heights, steroids, no salary cap, hardness of the baseball, etc).
Thanks M – I personally see no need for drawing a line, but if they think they need it, so be it.
Draft Mayfield and never look back…
I was hoping to see what he could do this year, Tanny i mean, like you said second year same system, should have been a show me year. Im not saying they will get rid of him, im not suggesting they should, im just saying, especially if Cutler plays well, i think its a good possibility they might. Im more on board with keeping whomever they feel like they should and drafting a guy, because i don’t think in 5 years, we will have either of them on this team.
I should have said, we should draft a guy and start developing him with Gase now so we are ready when whichever of the two they keep is gone in 5 years or less.
Again it’s the semantics that get people confused. Marino was an elite QB, Ken O’Brien was not but he was the Jets starting QB for quite a few years and they invested in him ala franchise QB. He was their guy. That’s the difference to me. I see it as two distinctly different things.
I see it as distinctly different things as well, i just think you have “investing in a guy” because that’s your only or best option currently and “investing in a guy” because he is good enough to lead you to the playoffs consistently and you have built your team around him.
Yep! There are never anywhere near 32 elite QBs playing at the same time. But there are 20 or so franchise QBs at the same time. Everyone knows who the team’s QB is.
Son
Are you saying Tannehill got Philbin fired? I think Philbin got Philbin fired.
Id say you were right there, His refusal to try to work with what he had, and his ineptitude in hiring a decent staff, and his inability to relate to the players, as well as his unyielding nit picky demeanor was his undoing and all on him.
More saying that Tanny isn’t elite
I also believe Elite symbolizes can put them wherever you want, whatever team and they will rise to that level. Had Brees come here i believe with certainty we would be a perennial playoff team right now. I also believe that if Rogers had been drafted by the 9ers they would have had a few Superbowl wins by now, just as GB does. Brady, same deal. Had some other team picked him up in the 5th round instead of the 6th, he would be successful there as well, though i don’t know if he would have as many rings, because a lot of that is Belichick.
Son, Baker Mayfield reminds me a bit of Drew Brees. Its a rare find to get a player that actually turns out like they should though, and he has a lot further to go this season before id be solid on that statement. I thought he was just average last year, so he has to show consistency this year at that higher level for me to think he has it.
Sonny
I don’t think anyone here thinks Tanny is elite at the moment. I think he has an outside shot to get there, but most likely even at his best, he’ll be below elite.
I certainly don’t. He looked his best before he got hurt but now he’s going to be 30 and has proven nothing. Move on.
D, Mayfield isn’t my favorite I’ve liked recently. I like his game and attitude. I want to watch him closely the rest of this year. I liked Watson more.
There are a few sleeper guys that i wouldn’t be shocked if weren’t at the top of the list before the end of the year and several they have made all kinda ruckus about that i think are WAY too early to be talking about like that.
That kid from Auburn, Stidham, completely came unraveled. He isn’t very athletic, he held on to the ball too long, etc. I believe though that was his first real start and it was against Clemson whose defense looked really aggressive. No small task, but he did not rise to the occasion he shrunk.
Nick Fitzgerald from Mississippi State is a guy id watch too, he has a good arm and he is athletic enough to make stuff happen with his legs. He kinda was bleh last year though he did put up almost 1400 rushing yards to go with his 2430ish passing yards. He didnt really look to have control of the offense then. So fr this year he is already at 150+ rushing yards with like a 9 yard average and almost 400 passing yards. He’s playing in a Mullen system so he might be the next Dak, and he might not, Dak was a pretty exceptional guy.
Luke Faulk is another guy i like, i liked him last year when i thought he was going to declare and we could draft him in the middle rounds. Has a really great arm like a lot of those PAC 12 guys.
jetsssuck says:
September 13, 2017 at 5:31 pm
what do you think of the alabama qb—I’m very impressed with this kid but I only seen him in 3 games so far. Kid is cool under pressure,doesn’t throw dumb interceptions and he can make all the throws in addition he is a major threat running the ball.
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Im not a fan, but i think the jury is still a good way out on him. The Alabama fans here are goo goo about him. The thing i like the most about him is he is a kid that plays with really heart but yet he stays remarkable calm no matter what. You might get a small smaile out of him on a good play, you might ge a small look of disappointment on a bad play but he doesn’t get phased by either. Thats really uncommon, and he has been that way since the first snap of his college career. I dont think he will ever develop as a great passer, and he isnt as big as Cam Newton, though his game kind of reminds me a little of him.
I think if you keep Tanny here next year, you can draft a few other positions and build the team. If we go QB in the 1st, that makes it a little harder to do that. I’d like to see what Tanny can do one more year with Gase, but that’s me.
I dont really think we have to go QB in the first. There are guys who will be there in the second maybe even third that should have real promise to them as well. I dont think we can wait much more than a year or two though, Id like for us to have a guy by in the next couple of year so by the time Tanny is done (and i believe thats less than 5 years off) or Cutler is done (probably more like 3 years off) we have a guy who has developed under Gase a few years and can take the reigns and run. We are getting closer though where we dont have to be so concerned with other positions above the most important one. We probably arent far off from being in a position where trading up to get a QB wouldn’t be an option. I dont think that year is next year but its not far off.
I don’t think qb in the 1st and keeping Tanny is so crazy
But you can only do it being okay with getting no production for a 1st rounder or you may be overpaying Tanny to be a backup
I actually think drafting a qb and keeping Tanny is ideal
jetsssuck says:
September 13, 2017 at 3:35 pm
team bonding along with their families could be a advantage but then again when have you ever seen where 100 plus people who know each other like each other.
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I was going to say, everyoneknow that when teams go out of town for the game its time for hookers and blow. They are probably disappointed their families are there lol 🙂
If i got a really good 1st round opportunity on a QB i really was sold on, id take it, despite us possibly needing another position more. I dont think its going to be necessary, but thats because i feel comfortable with some guys who right now project as 2nd and 3rds.
Rodgers has 1 championship. But, like I tell everyone around here, GB would be a perennial 4 win team without him.
Fitzgerald incidentally is 6-5 230+ lbs so he is a pretty sturdily built dude.
Another guy who would be available in a couple years is Shea Patterson at Ole Miss. He can sling the football. He and Hurts would be part of the same QB class, 2019.
Anyone here in upstate NY? have any info on Eric Dungey. He looks good from what little i have seen.
If you believe in pedigree Mark Rypien’s nephew is likely to be in next years draft class.
Greatness is not defined by championships when it comes to players in any sport. That’s like saying average or below average players who happened to be a part of championship teams are now great players. It’s silly.
Um……Dilfer was! Lol
The list goes on and on and on. LOL
Hey Mike E,
The reason for the distinction is that there are two different categories that players can get into the hall, modern era, and Seniors committee. The seniors committee’s purpose is to induct a few players who playing era ended more than 25 years ago. The thought is that before the HOF was created, there were plenty of players who would’ve been inducted every year just like there are now, the seniors committee job is to look for a couple of those players every year who deserve HOF induction…
At least this is how I understood the explanation I heard Bill Polian give lol…
Its how Ray Guy got in.
Sorry that was very “dogs and bees smell fear and the human head weighs 8 lbs”ish
RIP Frankie Vincent
He had a real wise guy look. It was over the top goombah but it was classic mobster.
wasnt
Nice job Mike E
A Jahndoh sighting awesome
HELLO AGAIN JOHN DOE!! Just in time for our first week of REAL Dolphins football!!
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UNACCOUNTED FOR EMPLOYEE BACK TO WORK SAFE AND SOUND! Now let’s look at JS’s solutions for finding him and see what would have happened. Much of Sarasota was subject to either mandatory evacuation or strongly worded voluntary evacuation due to expected heavy damage from Irma. OUR EMPLOYEE wisely evacuated. Had we called neighbors of his to check on him it would have done NO GOOD because NOBODY WAS HOME! Nor were his neighbors home, either. Had the police checked his home, it would have been empty, just like a certain person’s head!! Traveling 70 miles from Tampa to Sarasota to find him also would have failed because only home owners were allowed back into the development at this time. So, JS’s “cures” would have been totally useless.
I did offer our formerly unaccounted for employee an opportunity to share his phone number with JS before the next storm. His response was, “Give my phone number to a crazy man? – – No, thanks!”
One final comment. The owner of the company we work for told us to take as much time as we needed to clean things up and recover from Irma. We’ll still receive full paychecks and won’t be docked any sick time or vacation time. Maybe he’s not such an awful guy to work for after all.
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“D.”; You say you haven’t seen much that Ross hasn’t handled well. How about retaining Ireland and Sparano? How about giving raises and extensions to Sparano and Ireland??? How about the totally misguided hire of Joe Philbin?? (They’re STILL laughing in Green Bay about that one!) There are other poor decisions by Ross I COULD mention, decisions that negatively impacted the franchise. But the bottom line is this: Ross’s FOOTBALL decisions mostly STUNK before he decided to hire GASE (a move I’ll give him full credit for). That’s why, under Ross, most of Miami’s seasons have been unsatisfactory. So, it’s NOT just about tickets, seating locations and lost parking passes. It’s much more about Ross being the only owner in franchise history to never win a playoff game. Let’s hope that changes this year!
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YOUNG STANGER: You humorously suggested that I’ve “never met an owner I didn’t like.” Well, that’s not really true. I’ll admit me and “My Boyz” had a few issues with Joe Robbie. But, on balance,Robbie managed a franchise on a shoe string SO WELL that they achieved the one and only PERFECT SEASON! FIVE trips to the Super Bowl constitutes Robbie’s bottom line.–Wayne Huizenga, by far, was Miami’s most customer friendly owner. And the 1990’s and the early 2000’s were an exciting time to be a FINS’ FAN. Me and Mrs. OD traveled far and wide to see our beloved team play in cities like Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Indy, Kansas City and other places. Drowning out home team fans in Indianapolis, Cleveland, and Cincinnati was the experience of a lifetime!! Boy did we EVER make noise when Dan Marino destroyed other team’s defenses with his strong armed lasers!
Another owner I liked (who has a home here in Tampa Bay), the one and only Eddie De Bartolo,Jr., took over an awful 49ers franchise and made them 5-time Super Bowl winners! He hired head coaches Bill Walsh and George Seifert plus GM Carmen Policy. I’m sayin’ Walsh, Seifert and Policy were better than Sparano, Philbin and Ireland. Got that??
As usual, I’ll give Ross credit when I think he’s done well and criticism when I believe he’s made a poor choice. I believe every American has that right (especially those who have laid there lives on the line for this country.)
OD — seems I remember some stories about you going to battle with Robbie strong, but maybe should have said dolphins owner.
MF-13 if you’re out there. WHAT did you think of Pat Elflein’s performance at center for the Vikes on opening night??
Hey, Old Dolfan! When did you change your name to “olddolphan”, man?
Regretfully, I did not see the Vikes play the other day. Thus, I haven’t a personal opinion to give on one Pat Elflein’s performance. For whatever it may be worth, PFF rated him as the worst Center in the NFL after week 1. Now if ya know me, I no longer go by PFF’s ratings… I wouldn’t either if I was you.
I’ll have to take a closer look to surmise my own opinion, but even if he did suck, it was his very first NFL game. He’s going to be a baller someday soon, and I’m quite certain of as much!
I saw about half of the game. I thought the “ELF” made some plays and made some rookie mistakes, too. Overall I’d rate what I saw a B-, not bad for his first game in the NFL.
Good to hear, buddy! He’s got all the tools and the NASTY to become one of the better O-Linemen in this league. I foresee him as a future Pro-Bowler, for sure!
I expect us to come out flat against the Chargers, no practice for a week, no game of any kind for a while…
I expect us to be shot out of a cannon and the Chargers are never in this game. It starts with the first play bomb TD to Parker and never stops. 😀
I’m not sure what to expect. Feels like we could either blow them out or get blown out, at the moment… but we’re probably going to play a tight game to the end. It’s so very difficult to predict the first game of the season, IMO.
If our O-Line holds up, I feel like we’re all good on paper… both sides of the ball.
Howie hope you’re doing ok man. Check in when you can.
I’m watching the USS Indianapolis on PBS. If y’all didn’t already know, it was discovered a few weeks ago. Absolutely fascinating!
These looks at the sunken Indianapolis are very haunting.
This is supposedly a LIVE broadcast.
Long time roider Brian Cushing suspended for 10 games for PED’s
Elflein played really well for his first game as a rookie. He didn’t seem overwhelmed and appeared to be getting his calls right.
What a waste off talent!
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RIP Frankie Vincent – He went to get his shine box
Cool move…..and the team even won the game.
“Miami’s Central High School Rockets football team traveled to Las Vegas for a Friday game against national-champion Bishop Gorman on Friday. Last Friday. The team got stuck in Las Vegas….several players, including Kenny Stills, Ndamukong Suh, Reshad Jones, Jarvis Landry, and Lawrence Timmons, have all agreed to cover the costs of getting the team home, as well as paying for luxury travel from the airport back to their school as they arrive.”
Lol @ fake news.
No matter how you feel about the subject matter, this video is still pretty funny IMO. 😳
https://mobile.twitter.com/chelseashow/status/904373687687593986
That was funny !!
LOL
LOL, that was hilarious.
Dolphins are rusty. They better shake off that rust, because they’re playing a team that’s already 0-1, playing at home, and as desperate as an 0-1 team might be. lol
Why are they rusty?
That’s what Cutler said. I guess because of the lack of practice last week
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article173268761.html
Oh okay, they had a rusty practice. Game isn’t until Sunday at 4 so plenty of time to clean things up.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article173250001.html
Great of the players to volunteer to help these kids!
From Mike E’s link. 3 years in a stadium that small?…..sounds like a team that wanted to get out of town bad. Might be a perfect time to go complete rebuild though.
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“The Chargers, who moved north from San Diego this past offseason, are playing in the 27,000-seat StubHub Center, which is used by a Major League Soccer team, until a new stadium in Inglewood is completed in 2020.”
They felt the city wasn’t supporting the team, they wanted a new stadium, but the city wouldn’t support it, so they moved. That’s how I remember it.
The way I remember it is that Spanos tried to pull a Steve Ross by having the taxpayers fund the construction of a new stadium in San Diego. The taxpayers weren’t going to do it, so Spanos — out of spite — decided to relocate to LA.
Well, Steve Ross did the right thing and paid for the renovation out of his pocket, so . . .
And IF I remember correctly, it’s going to cost Spanos a ton more money to build a new stadium in LA than it would have for him to build a new stadium in San Diego. What a punk.
Three years is a long time though, but then the Rams (who they will share the new stadium with) are playing in the stadium where USC plays. That’s a big one, but they only go like 25 thousand in for the opener. Trojans had seventy plus in the night before.
M – If you were a businessman and a team owner, wouldn’t you try to get taxpayers to fund the stadium before you paid out of your own money?
Absolutely NOT. It’s not an ethical thing to do, but that’s just me. If I had Ross’ money, I’d fund it by myself. That’s chump change for a man of his wealth.
It’s ethical if the city wants a new stadium, and is willing to pay for it, right? What not ethical about it?
Oh, PLEASE raise my taxes in this shitty economy… said NOBODY! LOL
M13 — keep in mind that Ross has already committed to giving most of his money to charity when he passes. So his choice was get the area to pay for the stadium upgrades like most elsewhere and give more money away at the end.
Mike E. says:
September 14, 2017 at 12:58 pm
Well, Steve Ross did the right thing and paid for the renovation out of his pocket, so . . .
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Correct… in the end, he did what he should have done to begin with.
If you’ll remember, rumors were swirling around that Ross was just trying to relocate from Miami after he pulled that stunt.
Rumors were all they were. I think Steve Ross has proven to be an excellent owner of our team.
Yes… please don’t think I’m saying otherwise. Ross got off to a VERY rocky start as owner of our team, but I think he’s finally gotten it right. I’m now HAPPY that he’s our owner, Bro!
Stunt? It’s not uncommon to grant incentives, pay for a facility, etc in order to generate the JOBS and REVENUE by having a professional sports team in your city. Restaurants, bars, hotels are big winners.
People seem to think just because Ross has money he shouldn’t try to do what every other SMART businessperson should do in seeking incentives/subsidies or a taxpayer funded facility. Would you rather have a stupid, fiscally unresponsible owner of the team? Apparently so. 🙄
Please refer to the Spanos/Chargers situation above.
There was a time not so long ago when Old Dolfan and I despised Ross so very badly. He was a buffoon and kept making classic mistake after mistake. I know Old Dolfan still feels that way to a greater extent, but I’m sincerely pleased with all he’s done most recently.
I now think Ross is one of the top-10 owners in the league.
Top 10 is pretty good though……and think you have to separate Ross the businessman from football moves. He even admits he doesn’t know such about those but finally found his guy in Gase. And am right with him on that.
Absolutely!
Goodness, between the 1st game being postponed and the Hurricane comming right up through hear I had no idea who we where even playing this week till just now…
Power is back on so lets try this again
First Update
DOLPHINS-CHARGERS
GO PHINS!!!
Howie! Good to see you! I guess you made it through the hurricane OK?
Power is a wonderful thing.
stang MIA 38-17
M – You can say or feel however you want. You said he tried to pull a Steve Ross, which in the context of what you wrote, was pretty negative. I think there are many owners in all sports who have the done the very same thing. It’s business. It’s not a devious or unethical practice, at least not as far as it’s done throughout sports
I think Steve Ross had been a failure of an owner up until fairly recently. I now view him very positively… but that doesn’t erase his failures of the past. That he’s LEARNING from his failures is what impresses me with him. He’s finally getting it and doing EXTREMELY well now, at that.
Howie, MIA 29-23
I don’t live in Miami so my view is definitely not regional, but as a Dolphins fan, I love Ross as an owner. IMO he is trying to win a Super Bowl, and all his football decisions reflect that. He’s made bad choices many times, lol, but there is no secret ‘choice formula’ or ‘jump to conclusions’ mat that can give the guy the right answers. He does appear to learn from his mistakes.
It looks like he may have struck gold with Gase, and the current version of our front office. Time will tell. One thing I know with this owner, we won’t lose our coaches/front office people because he is cheap or because he treats them poorly. He puts money into the team. You want to see a shitty owner, take a look at Washington and the mess they have going on up there.
My only complaint about Ross is he doesn’t own the league the way Kraft and Jones do.
^^^^ This
Also agree and starts with we don’t burn cap and have one of the few completely private stadiums in the league. Another plus is that the Phins are just a huge hobby for Ross as rich as he is and know the team won’t move as long as he is alive. Like the whole take care of the players aspect as well.
Ocala,
Marino- Phins 37, Charge 31
mf13ss says:
September 14, 2017 at 1:25 pm (Edit)
Please refer to the Spanos/Chargers situation above.
I can read. I’m aware of what was said about that situation as well. I think those comments are equally without merit. It’s a BUSINESS decision.
At least one Dolphins player is happy with the Week 1 BYE
http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2017/09/14/miami-dolphins-mike-pouncey-bye-week-extra-rest-help-me/
Undoubtedly! This helps us.
the human head weighs eight pounds
Peyton Manning’s head weighs 12 pounds.
That’s without a brain and those average about 3 so all together it’s 11. 😊
And hopefully you have no firsthand knowledge of this. 😳
how much do mittens weigh?
Yes MikeE
got pretty rough but just a big mess in theese parts
I can’t even imagine Howie. Glad you’re OK
Herd
Any facts on mitten weights?
Nope. Too many variables there. Lol
I would think human heads are just as variable as mittens. lol
There’s a certain time and date that FA vets can be signed for non-guaranteed $ after week 1, and I’ve not heard when that begins. My gut tells me that it’s 4:00 PM/EST today, but I’m not sure.
That’s when the likes of Revis Island, Kaep, and Branden Albert should be signed by some team.
We’re sitting at roughly $1.6M under the cap, so I don’t expect us to make a noteworthy signing.
My head is filled with useless information but I can’t keep up with all sorts of things I need to know/remember. Weird.
Does useless information increase the weight of your head? Does information in general?
I’m very inquisitive, I apologize. lol
Mike E,
Did you go to see “IT” yet?
No, but I plan on going this weekend, either Fri or Sat. My wife promised me if my son won’t go, she would go with me, but she’s scared. lol No really, she’s scared. It does look pretty scary, doesn’t it?
Did you see it?
Nah, I’ve not seen it either. I’m waiting for the crowds to diminish; can’t stand packed theaters with people talking/giving it away having seen it before/cell phones going off, etc. I want to actually ENJOY the experience!
I’ve heard “IT” is OUTSTANDING from several friends who’ve read the book and watched the original TV movie. CAN’T WAIT!!!
I’ve heard from a number of friends it’s a good movie, but it’s not really that scary. I imagine if you are afraid of clowns, it’ll be scary as hell even if it’s not really that scary.
M – That’s good to hear. I loved the book, and I really enjoyed the TV series too.
I’ve never read the book (I’ll put it on my bucket list), but I thoroughly enjoyed the TV movie. I just wish Tim Curry was able to reprise the voice of Pennywise… CLASSIC!