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Man I hate brush fire air..
I like Moore a lot. As a backup. I think he can win a few games for you, but I don’t think he can carry the team 10-11 games, win enough to get you to the playoffs, and beyond. Cutler isn’t currently getting it done, but if something suddenly clicks he can easily, and HAS been that QB.
Agreed, it just doesn’t feel like that’s going to happen because this is 3 weeks in a row scoring 6, 0 and 9 on offense. I never expected this.
Oh snap, hardly ever post and got the page turn! Off to buy the Lotto tix!
Randy,
I’m with you on this. Seen enough of Cutler and it’s not like he doesn’t have a track record of alienating players and fans in Chicago with this same play and behavior. It isn’t all his fault, but what’s the upside here?
Moore had numbers similar to Tannehill last year. He can win games. We aren’t a contender with him, but at least we are competitive. There’s nothing worse than watching your team play a game as if they don’t care. That’s what I’ve seen from the offense so far. Moore is the only easy switch we can make so pull the trigger already.
Jahn,
I get the concern about having to go back to Cutler if Moore sucks or gets hurt. I can’t watch Cutler though…. I don’t see him turning it around either. He didn’t want to play in the first place until Gase talked him into it. I think he is just cashing the check and can’t get back to the TV gig soon enough.
Hard to compare a QB’s numbers with 12+ games compared to 4+ games if you count the playoffs. And Moore didn’t play well the last game against the Pats and was bad in the PIT playoff game even though we didn’t lose just because of him.
But there is still an outside chance that we could get a playoff spot with Cutler. I’d at least stay with him until that chance is gone. If we can’t make the playoffs, then the record could care less about other than draft order.
I’m more on the Jahn rather than the DRG or Randy side of this, least as to possible timing. And heck….if Gase wanted to make the switch the perfect time would be if we are getting crushed by the Falcons at half and Cutler is looking piss poor. And Gase is a friend who talked Cutler out of retirement. He won’t make the move until he look Jay in the eye and say “you know why I had to do it.”
I think Cutler is getting ripped more than he deserves, but I think it’s because he seems completely uninterested. He’s getting very little help from anybody, and he can’t do it himself. It’s more his attitude that has me thinking a change needs to be made. Is a guy who came out of retirement for $10M and hasn’t gone through the grind and developed a connection with the other players gonna put his health or body on the line to make a play? It sure doesn’t look like it.
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Also, can we find a TE? Ours suck. Thomas is awful. His blocking is very bad. Fasano is absolutely nothing special. He’s old and slow and not doing much of anything. If he’s just gonna block…put an extra OL in instead. This FO has made some very poor personnel decisions.
Regardless of how you feel about Tannehill, and I know how you feel about him lol, it’s never easy when you lose your starting QB.
Let’s be happy the FO has made some real good decisions on defense. 🙂
Right on, Herd!
John may have it right. Gase has the perfect excuse to make some changes (Foerster), so make them and give Cutler two more games.
Omar KellyVerified account @OmarKelly 3m3 minutes ago
#Dolphins signing linebacker Neville Hewitt to practice squad
Yeah, TE seems to be the Front Office’s Achilles Heel. Although, after yesterday I go back to questioning them letting Richard Matthews go.
Matthews had 3-34 yards yesterday. Not sure he’d be making much of a difference for us.
Stanger,
I think Moore gives us a better chance to win. That’s why I want him in there. Cutler is done and I don’t believe he has a higher ceiling at this stage of his career for multiple reasons.
If our OL doesn’t improve, it won’t matter who’s playing QB. It’s just that it’s easier to replace one guy than 5. I don’t really care if we make a change now or wait and see what is going on in another couple games. I just don’t think things are going to improve unless the OL shows dramatic improvement. Cutler just looks like he’s going thru the motions and thinking of himself…and not getting hurt.
No doubt that OL is a weak point, but then we all knew that before FA even started. Yeah I was hyped on improving that, but even if got my wishes we right now might be talking about line looks good but the D is killing us. Was always more than a one-year project.
Tim,
I’m not talking about Tannehill! I thought we were an 8 win team with him.
8-5 and the team was playing better. I was talking about losing your starting QB. It’s never easy to replace them even if they’re not great players. All the offseason work and being in the 2nd season under Gase and his system, what works well and what doesn’t being looked at and worked on, then all that changes. Not easy.
That said, I didn’t think it would be this bad.
DRG– Have seen what Moore can do, but still have dreams of what Cutler’s strong arm could do if other stuff comes into place. Am sure Bears fans would agree that “for almost every real good looking women out there is a guy who is sick of her.” But then know Moore ain’t the whole package either.
LMAO…She posted the vide because Of Kaepernick not having a job. Can’t make this shit up.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/10/09/dolphins-aware-video-ol-coach-snorting-white-powder.html
Amazing how your coke buddies can end up being less than dependable. 🙂
Lmao Stanger! So true, Hard to find reliable druggie friends
Lol she has also called out against the hypocrisy of having a meeting of stand for anthems coming from coked up coaches delivering it.
The OL Coach was an absolute idiot to send her incriminating evidence of cocaine!
Never cross a sister, lmao, paybacks a bitch!
She does have a valid point that the ones calling out players for anthems, aren’t exactly innocent themselves.
I am right with DRG, KEN and Randy. Our OL had a bunch of injuries the back half of last year but we put up points with MM and won some games. To me the OL is playing like it did the end of last year but you couple that with Cutler playing scared with a watered down playbook and we get the product we are seeing right now.
The fact that he was not here during training camp is just an excuse to me now that we are 5 weeks into the season and have seen ABSOLUTELY no improvement. Even with a watered down playbook, Cutler is taking forever to process the play called and look over the D.
Right now Atlanta is watching our game film and saying, “This is easy, we only have to prepare for this, this, and that. Lets just attack Cutler so he tucks his tail all game and force him into bad throws”. “Oh, and be ready for a WR screen by play #4 or 5”.
At least MM knows the whole playbook and we were making plays instead of calling one of a hand full of plays and HOPE it works.
Moore started 4 games including the playoff game against PIT, we won the first two and got beaten pretty badly the last 2. So some games = 2 out of 4. Not trying to knock Moore, just being realistic about what happened. People seem to have this idea that we rallied under Moore as if we were struggling before he came in. We were on a 7-1 run with Tannehill before he got hurt.
I was originally for starting Moore when RT went down, but was okay when they signed Cutler. I thought he would be a better player. I can deal with his resting bitch face, but damn it’s easier to do so if he’s playing lights out.
Right!
You can see our skill players (mainly Landry) really getting frustrated with this watered down playbook.
They might be frustrated with the QB more than anything else
What’s going to happen to cutler in the next 2 games
Is he going to give us 200 passing yards rather than 92
Cutler is not just a guy out of sync with this offense
He’s pitiful
I tend to think 3 weeks from now we will be 3-3
But what if making a change helped us get to 4-2
What if not making a change caused us to be 2-4
We are in the thick of an AFC east race
It’s just not worth it to stick with him
Cutler at his best is really not much better than Matt Moore
Move on from cutler
Honestly I would cut him and eat the 10mil we signed him for
There’s no point to delaying that
I get the starting QB vs backup QB mentality thing, I said it myself here when they signed Cutler and all things pointed to him being the starter. There’s a reason why Matt Moore is a backup QB, and has stayed here to be the backup QB, rather than leaving to find a place where he could compete for a starting job. That opportunity most likely never existed anyway, because Matt Moore wouldn’t be any teams answer as a starter. He has shown he won’t make it through a full season healthy, and can’t sustain a high level of play for a string of NFL games. He’s up and down, and that’s why he’s a backup. He’s also good at coming into a game cold, whereas Cutler probably wouldn’t do as well if say Moore started, and Cutler had to come in during the middle of the game.
Gase is sticking with Cutler, because he’s his starter. That’s it. We have to hope we can get better blocking up front, and Cutler has a clean pocket, or it’s going to be more of the same with his offense.
Honestly just doing dump passes to Landry in 1st or 2nd down to get 2-4 yards and out us in better position to covert 3rd down shouldn’t be that hard
Cutler has me thinking dink and dunk is brain surgery
I bet we can sign a few guys off the streets to perform better than cutler
Piggy
We’re in thick of a an AFC race? That’s an overstatement. Without Devante Parker, this offense isn’t nearly as explosive, and whether it’s Moore or Cutler, if Ajayi isn’t running for 100 + yards, this offense is done. Look at last year, it was the same deal. Did you forget? If Ajayi isn’t getting his yards, Moore won’t be flourishing anymoore than Cutler
Look at everyone else’s record
Everyone in the east is 3-2 , but us, 2-2, one hurricane game back from the rest
Most AFC teams are 3-2 or worse.
Do We remember HOW we got it going last year?
Refresher, the OL started BLOCKING, we destroyed stealers and got the wins coming, with Great Offensive line play, allowing Ajayi and Tannehill room and time to do what they do.
Where is that offensive line from the stealers win onward?
Here’s another thing, Moore is not always good coming off the bench cold. In the ARZ game when Tannehill went down, we were up 21-9. Moore failed to convert a 1st down on his first 3 possessions as ARZ mounted their comeback. Not blaming just Moore, our defense wasn’t holding up either. We won 26-23 on a late FG where yes Moore did make some key throws to set up that FG. But we were in control of the game when Tannehill was playing.
The moral of the story is starters are starters for a reason, and backups are backups for a reason.
Rather than come off the bench – I think the idea is to start him
I was commenting on some comments that he’s good cold off the bench. Not really true. In the BUF game a few years back when Tannehill got hurt he threw a pick on his first pass. He’s actually been better when he’s had a chance to prepare all week. I was also pointing out that his play last year when he came in was just as up and down as everyone is pointing out.
Piggy
It’s not the records man. Heck, I think the Jets look like a more rounded team than we do right now.
The jests are a perfect example of why we should play Moore
Moore will probably beat the jests
Another sub 100 yard game from cutler will lose games like that
Look around
The NFL isn’t very good right now
My point wasn’t our odds of winning
It’s doing what is necessary to win the next game
We can, beleive it or not, be the worst offense in the NFL and still be a playoff game. It’s painful to watch but like it or not we are .500 right now and I pretty much expect .500 after 6 games as well – but probably not with cutler
We all know that if the offense doesn’t play much better we have no chance at the playoffs. The defense won’t hold up with no support on offense. That’s a shame too because they are balling.
How good are the chiefs? 5-0 is a helluva start, and they could be 6-0 next week.
they host the interception machine Big Ben and his troops next Sunday
Watson had 5 TDs last night, so Chiefs found other ways to win, even returned a punt for TD
The Chiefs look like the best team, have all year. Watson is on fire though and he has no fear taking shots down the field allowing his talented WRs to make plays.
Yea, it’s amazing watching his skill set. I didn’t see the whole game, but the plays I watched were damn impressive.
Chiefs are for real though, gonna take a lot to beat them
Is it possible the Dolphins save the undefeated season of 72 again? , we travel to KC on 12/24
Dolphins defeat the undefeated Chiefs 17-0 in an amazing performance by the defense scoring two TDs and setting up a FG off another TO as Miami’s offense once again score 0 points. Amazing! LOL
Lol we will take the fugly win
This is the kind of run blocking We need to give Ajayi
Check out the untouched Fournette going for a 90 yard TD
https://mobile.twitter.com/espn/status/917130993278095360/video/1
“It caused some problems for the defenses, because they had to prepare for two different styles of offense. David and I understood what Shula was going to do, and the combination was successful. It’s hard to beef about it.”
— Don Strock
I don’t Miss Woodstrock, lol I can’t forget the SD game Woodley got us in a hole 0-24, then Strock brings us back, all of it for naught in a painful OT loss
For Dolfans it was tough, for NFL fans it was one of the most exciting games ever played.
Not like they went into camp with that as the plan….was the one they went with though.
In the 82 season SB, Woodley tanked the second half badly, and Strock never got an at bat,
So I’m not sure if We could have won if Strock played the second half or not.
“In the 82 season SB”….I settle for a loss in the superbowl with Cutmoore.
We also had the best defense in 82, lol
We Don’t have that now, but this defense does have potential to be great
We had the best pass defense in the NFL, by far, but we were number 2 overall because our rush d wasn’t that great.
Riggins exposed the Bees weakness, lmao and grrrr
But Woodley didn’t complete a pass the entire fourth quarter, and maybe only one in the third quarter, he completely caved in like the weak QB he was
well…..since I gave up supporting the NFL for their blatant disrespect for the American anthem and it’s colors….can anyone tell me what leg OBJ broke?…..was it the plant leg, or the raised dog pee leg?….well, at least he has a reason to sit the anthem out…poor baby.
His legs are ok, fractured ankle
The Killer B’s defense is what also hurt Marino in the mid and late 80’s. We kept riding too many of those guys and they weren’t the same players and the defense got worse every year. Strangely enough we kept adding more defensive players with names beginning with B – Bowser, Brophy, M. Brown and B. Brown. Kind of crazy. LOL
Lol it did seem weird so many B,s. They weren’t as good in 84
Charles Bowser was on his way to being a real good pass rushing OLB until he suffered an Achilles injury which was career ending back then.
82 – rookie season 9 games 2.0 sacks
83 – 16 games 6.5 sacks
84 – 16 games 9.0 sacks
85 – 2 games 2.5 sacks (end of career)
Mark Brown became a pretty good LB for a few years. Brophy and Bud Brown were not very good.
Whats bad for Beckham isn’t the pain in the ankle,
it’s the pain of this injury complicating his upcoming mega contract he was expecting.
This could toss an very expensive monkey wrench into the proceedings
No doubt. His antics don’t help his cause either. He’s an extremely gifted and explosive WR who simply won’t just go play, have fun and not try to be a distraction. The way I would look at it if I was GM at this particular time, I guess we can go 0-4 without you (he missed week one). As good as he is, not sure I’m ready to give him a big, long-term deal off this injury next year, but I’d probably be willing to franchise him and say, play for pay this season.
poor turd…lol
Top, cmon buddy, surely You did notice BRandon Marshall ALSO got an injured ankle same game? Lol sux to be 0-5 Giants
We’re probably not going to find out whether Moore would have been better or not, so keep that in mind. Unless Cutler has another dreadful day, he’s staying as the QB
We’ll never find that out because that time has passed. If Cutler has another bad game along with the offense, I think Moore deserves a shot as does the team deserve a change. Let’s say Moore is ho-hum and we go 1-2 with him and Gase then feels it’s time to go back to Cutler, okay fine. But 4 bad games in a row is a little much with a guy that is not our future. It’s not like he’s a young potential QB of the future that we’re going to go through growing pains with.
david…..no, I didn’t notice…..i’m just picking up little bits of information from friends that let me know what NFL info will amuse me…..like ROSS just changed his stance on disrespecting the flag…..bout fucking time,
The anthem/flag protest stance got out of hand and owners were put in a bad place between honor for America and respecting their players’ rights to express their views. It was also about their franchises and yes their bottom line. But that’s real life.
It’s easy to say fuck them and cut their sorry asses when that ain’t gonna happen. Even Jerry Jones found a way around his initial comments.
So you gave up on supporting the NFL, but are still wanting to follow what happens by piecing together what you get from your friends? But heck — guess we have our own choices to make in life. You done with the NFL and the Phins forever?
It’s funny how a season goes. After the week one win over the Chargers on the road with Cutler playing a solid game, the Tannehill not being in the picture comments started up. 3 games later and not only is that not a topic anymore, but drafting a QB early is in the mix incase Tannehill isn’t the same, which I don’t think will be an issue. His initial knee injury wasn’t that bad nor was the re-injure. It’s just that his first non-surgery approach wasn’t good enough. He didn’t shred everything. He had the surgery and is already walking around.
According to Barry Jackson: “An MRI on receiver DeVante Parker’s injured ankle revealed nothing more than a sprain, and he’s questionable for Sunday’s game at Atlanta….The injury is not considered serious.”
I posted that already but no beer necessary. 🙂
You posted some tweets on the same general info without some of what was in the article (MRI and questoinable included)…..no beer for you my friend.
That’s why I said no beer, but the intel was already there. He twisted his ankle. It happens when you’re flying around out there. He draws a lot of attention and gets hit a lot over the middle. Maybe he misses the next game at most. it happens. Lots of top level WRs aren’t durable. Some peeps seem to want to paint Parker that way. Look around the league. A lot of players and really good ones are done for the year or hurting. It’s not just our guys.
Just happy “high-ankle” was not in there. And even more not the foot thing again.
A lot of things to consider, one, next year is loaded at QB prospects.
too early to say for certain, but could be 4-5 QB go in the first round.
I don’t feel that we have the luxury of passing on QB in the 2018 draft, because I’m currently unhappy with our QB situation.
Hopefully FO brings in the guy that can BEST help us, whoever that may be
I also feel it may be fool’s gold. But the NFL has to go for it. Everyone is looking for the next franchise QB.
If Tannehill is good to go, I ride with him over a guy who has never taken an NFL snap. Not even close.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?position=QB&type=position
It’s not easy to find the guy at QB.
I believe What’s fools gold is hoping cutler and Tannehill can win a super bowl or a playoff game
I don’t expect a QB to win a super bowl. I expect a team to do it. What we were building on from last year’s 9-2 run with Ajayi and a revamped but hampered defense down the stretch into this year was promising. The defense is looking good. The OL still has some issues as usual. Who’s not here? Tannehill!
We went on a 7-1 run with him after a 1-4 start. Moore finished at 2-1. The team was playing its ass off as they lost starter after starter down the stretch. We had nothing left against PIT in the playoffs. Okay, it happens. But let’s not act like something good wasn’t happening with Ajayi emerging and Tannehill feeding off of it, along with our WRs.
It blew up in August of TC before we played a PS game.
Fuck… Both SoCal and NorCal are on fire.. My sister is under the mandatory evacuation in Anaheim Hills… Not Good. We have Santa Ana winds driving flames everywhere. I feel so bad for all the people that have lost their homes and there is no containment. It’s going to get really ugly before it gets better. 😔
Oh man so sorry to hear that. Wishing the best for everyone.
Hang in there Phindog, wishing You the best
Hope your sister comes back to her place with a lucky — even if it was a pain in the ass — feeling, just like a lot of us did after the hurricane.
STANGER…..as I said before, I was ok with the NFL when it was just a few American anthem and flag disrespecting players doing what they do……but then, the NFL was faced with a CHOICE to either side with the players and keep the disrespect on going OR outlaw the disrespect……to me, they chose wrong……funny, the NFL can fine players for not wearing the same socks and cleats, and end zone antics….but say fuck the feelings of millions of patriotic Americans.
oh…..if the NFL wises up and changes their stance on regulating disrespect of my country, i may end my boycott.
Top — the NFL had no power to do anything….such would have to be done through the CBA negotiated with the union, like the fines you talk about. Now the 32 owners each had options and each one chose decided what to do about it. So not sure what “CHOICE” the NFL collectively had. At the Dolphins game all stood, but according to reports 3 players decided not to come out on the field till after the anthem was over. You boycotting the Phins over that….no one in the stands noticed.
the individual owners will be shitting their collective pants next year…..see, their bills (advertising) are already paid for this season…..if they don’t change things quick, their sponsorship will fade…wait and see what the CAP will be next year…lol.
Would love to pick up my Phins tickets on the cheap. Maybe that would get some people to sell there seasons and let me get them. Not like the team is gonna stop playing. Even if doubt you are right given the response to the whole thing….hoping you are.
Tim Knight says:
October 9, 2017 at 12:55 pm
Heroin is rampant in NJ because it’s so cheap. Lots of young people dying from overdosing.
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Tim,
Unfortunately, heroin is rampant almost everywhere nowadays. There are a large percentage of people who become addicted to opiates, and then switch to heroin because it is cheaper and easier to obtain. It’s an awful fucking drug.
It’s really bad. My daughter’s friend overdosed a few weeks ago and died. Fortunately she’s not into crap like that and is doing well in her life. But she had to say goodbye to a friend and a girl way too young.
Thank God for that Tim. I’m praying to God that this epidemic subsides before my kids get to the age where I have to worry about that shit. It scares me to death.
Question: does anybody think we did well against the Titans’ vaunted, 2-headed monster running game, holding them to 3.5 YPC?
Yes, I think we were very physical yesterday on defense
My god yes, what did Henry have, like 14 yards? Damn
Tim, how good do You think Tanny can be next year? No guarantees in life, he was supposed to play this year and missed 16 games.
What will RT be like next season, and what if he can’t play like we need? Call cutler back?
I don’t see the harm in bringing in a QB in the draft, we might need him, and who knows, he could be the next great QB to help us win a SB someday
Nobody has the answer to that but I know RT will work his tail off and be ready if his knee allows him to. I think we forget we were getting better when he was our QB, not worse. 1-4 start and 7-1 run should not be overlooked. It downplays how hard that was to accomplish.
2008 with Pennington, started off 2-4, went 9-1 down the stretch. Nothing left in the playoffs against BAL.
I agree no one knows the answer to how good Tannehill will be, or if he can play like we need him too.
The uncertainty is why I would be happy if we drafted QB, gives us more tools in the bag to work with 🙂
My sister is ok and going to my Moms house.. She was at work and wouldn’t let her in her neighborhood to grab her important docs from her house. She’s taking it well .
Cutler or Moore….I guess I just need to see a change. I was willing to give Cutler and everyone a few games to get stuff together, but it hasn’t worked at all. Now, it just looks like Cutler couldn’t care less whether we win or lose. Is that true or just my perception. I think it’s in his play. Gase really can’t afford to cut two guys like last year….who would it be? So, how does he send a message and possibly jar this team awake? Maybe you bench your QB. Who knows. Cutler has the skills. Are his head and heart in it?
Still wondering that myself, I think he’s counting the days to the air conditioned broadcast booth, lol
Damn Doggy – Best wishes for everyone out in Cali 😦
BTW I’m not suggesting let Tanny go, no way, just drafting some help for the team is what I’m hoping for.
The best QB will be our starter, so it’s better for the team to have a good healthy competition,instead of just blindly hand everything over to a guy that hasn’t played in 2 years with injuries
the individual owners will be shitting their collective pants next year…..see, their bills (advertising) are already paid for this season…..if they don’t change things quick, their sponsorships will fade…wait and see what the CAP will be next year…lol.
Just curious, Do You want the NFL destroyed over false pretenses? Or even if You feel it’s real flag disrespect, even though protesters swear it’s not?
talk is cheap, their actions say differently.
And Your ok with the Pence dog and pony show in San Fran? Lol we all know he’s not a San Fran fan, there aren’t any, lol
But my question is, Do You want the NFL destroyed?
This is true. I know plenty of people done with the NFL. They just don’t care anymore and the protest stuff was the last straw. I’m one guy in a small pond and I know maybe a few dozen people adamant about being done with the NFL – most are former police officers and/or military currently serving, or family and friends of them. Times (X) that across the country.
The wise saying of don’t cut off “The Hand That Feeds You” is being ignored on a large scale. There will be ramifications. It’s already begun.
I’m all for them doing it Tim. Not like they will stop playing the game and the tickets and fees will get a whole lot cheaper. Would be best for all us fans.
I hear this ad nauseun, and also see the Packers cowboys tv ratings game in week 5 beat out the top draw of 2016 week 5.
Also for some reason, Thursday night football got a high rating too, so obviously fans are going coming, whatever, but still here
Ad nauseum*
Does anyone think protests would go away, if the president destroyed the NFL? I’m not buying that,
There are other ways to protest, so I’ve heard, lol
protesters will go away, when their message is heard and addressed, anything less, they won’t stop, it’s just what society is, people wanting to be heard and respected
the NFL is doing it to themselves.
mf13ss says:
October 9, 2017 at 7:08 pm
Question: does anybody think we did well against the Titans’ vaunted, 2-headed monster running game, holding them to 3.5 YPC?
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I say HELL YEAH!!! 3.5 YPC is pretty good against ANY running opponent. Here’s the point: Cutler averaged 3.4 YPCompletion yesterday. Not only is that sub-par, it’s unacceptable in any way, shape, or form.
Remember back in ’09 when Mr. Pennington played a mere 3 games for us with his ‘dink-and-dunk- arm? He averaged 5.6 YPCompletion. Guess what Cutler is averaging this year through 4 games? 5.4 YPCompletion.
Folks, Cutler’s arm is injured. I don’t care what the coaching staff says… but that they won’t call a pass for more than 10-15 yards MAX is TELLING.
Yes, the O-Line is HORRIBLE this year (perhaps Chris Foerster has something to do with it, who knows)… but that’s no excuse to not call the occasional deep pass to get 8 out of the box. And as we all know, we faced 8 in-the-box very often last year. Tannehill was able to take the tops off Defenses via DeVante and especially Stills, freeing up Ajayi to do HIS thing.
Until we get a deep ball generated, Ajayi is going to be averaging his now 3.4 YPC (matching Cutler’s inept 3.4 YPCompletion) this year.
Guys, it’s time for Matt Moore… like it or not. He’ll at least get the deep ball going, which will in turn get the J-Train chugging once again. Cutler’s arm is INJURED.
A deep ball? How about a medium ball!
RIGHT?!! I’m telling ya, Cutler’s arm is injured and that’s why we aren’t even calling a “medium ball” for him.
“And Your ok with the Pence dog and pony show in San Fran? Lol we all know he’s not a San Fran fan, there aren’t any”…..dude, vice president PENCE is the former governor of Indiana…..you know, the same state where Indianapolis is…….genius.
Right, so You are ok with his dog and pony show, pretending to walk out on his beloved forty niners? Lol
He’s from Indiana, so of course I don’t buy his pretending to be a niners fan at taxpayers expense
But no answer to if You want the NFL to be destroyed, alright, no worries 😎
But my question is, Do You want the NFL destroyed?……of course not…..but they are doing it to themselves……..actions speak much louder than words.
Top — know you have your own boycott thing going, but not like there was even talk about it in the stadium last game….and not a single protester to be seen. You really think this could be the end of the NFL? If so, you have a finger on some kinda of pulse that am not aware of. Even ORob said his boycott was over….and he felt just like you.
Thanks for Your answer, I was curious, and didn’t want the answer just to disparage You 😎
“He’s from Indiana, so of course I don’t buy his pretending to be a niners fan at taxpayers expense”
dude, are you dense?……the game was is INDY!
Lol, alright, you missed the sarcasm, but moving forward.
so you think he really wanted to see the colts win? He KNEW the niners would kneel.
Or just did a dog and pony show because his angry boss ordered it?
dude….please look up the meaning of sarcasm….smh
lol I know what it means, just should have worded it better, but at least I didn’t cost the taxpayers as much as Pence did, lol. Is that better?
The players are trying to make a statement about social injustice. Some NFL fans are making a statement by not supporting the way they’re doing it…..or the team/organization who employs them. It’s the same thing, and it’s what makes us America. I just wonder what difference any of it is making.
Indirectly it got us a new offensive line coach 😎
It won’t make any difference. Least not in the long run. More like the current hissy fit dog whistle.
freedom of speech has it’s consequences….right ?
True that Top, I call it The social tax
People like to argue over their beliefs. I went through the same thing when I called out the Catholic Church in my small pond as a kid, got some flack for it. I guess 35+ years ago.
Not all people want to be part of a group or some fucked up cult way of thinking. I feel that group thinking clouds independent thought. Just my experience.
the NFL and it’s teams never should have allowed it to go any further and should have squashed it when it started. Players want to protest injustice, take out a tv ad, billboard, etc. Keep your protests out of the game and teams do not have to allow them to protest.
And then there were only 3 after Sunday’s games. Minimum of 3 games started this year with 0 INTs… Alex Smith, Drew Brees, and CASE KEENUM.
Sam Bradford is getting the start for the Vikes tonight over Case being he’s now healthy enough to play.
At a 74.8 passer rating for the year, this is Jay Cutler’s lowest-ever passer rating.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CutlJa00.htm
At least he is familiar with Gase,s offense, ouch!
Foerster’s track record was horrible at best. When he was with SF (with Gase) the team had the 27th and 25th rushing offense and gave up 40 and 55 sacks over his two years their as the o-line coach.
When he was the Phins OC in ’04 they were 4-12 and averaged 17ppg on offense.
Why this team let go of Benton for this guy is beyond me.
And I started to call him out of Twitter last night and my prayers were answered. No matter the motivation he’s gone now and time to move on to bigger and better things.
unreal huh
Top, sorry I’m in a mood and didn’t make sarcasm more clear, but seriously Have You heard many are accusing Pence of disrespecting the anthem by his stunt? Where to draw the line on a grey area?
There aren’t clear cut lines, this is a childish game no ones going to win at this rate , and it seemingly has nothing to do with disrespecting the flag IMO
But thanks for the interesting convo!
why do I even try?………smh.
Phins really need to pursue Ed Warinner hard.
Is he running around handing out passes to his ass?
sorry but I don’t understand
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Kevin Liptak @Kevinliptakcnn
A C32 (AF2) costs $42,936/hour. Pence flew 2.5 hours from Vegas to Indianapolis and then flew back to LA 📈📈
12:12 PM – 8 Oct 2017
Pence used Air Force 2 to pull off a political stunt for the national anthem, He never intended to watch the game.
per PFF
Miami Dolphins linebacker Kiko Alonso put up an elite performance Week 5 versus the Tennessee Titans. Playing all 59 of the team’s defensive snaps, Alonso earned an overall grade of 91.7 while making plays in coverage, against the run and even rushing the passer. With just Monday night football remaining, Alonso has the highest game grade of the week among linebackers.
Defending the pass, Alonso was fantastic in coverage in this game, earning a coverage grade of 88.3 on 34 coverage snaps. He allowed just 18 yards on three receptions while also making three tackles resulting in an offensive failure in the passing game. Alonso also picked up a sack off of a blitz.
On 20 snaps defending the run, Alonso racked up three more stops giving him the third highest run-stop percentage for the week among 4-3 outside linebackers at 15.0 percent.
UUGhh !!!
SUNDAY’S TITANS @ DOLPHINS GAME at DON SHULA STADIUM (AKA Hard Head Stadium/Hard Rock Stadium) provided a mixed bag of results for those in attendance. The following consists of THE GOOD, THE BAD, and THE UGLY of what I experienced.
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THE GOOD:
1) YOUNG STANGER. Jon, I love ya’ like a brother! Going to a Fins game with you is a special experience. Now that all members of my former “posse” have cancelled their seasons tickets, YOU are all that’s left of the 10 or so members of “My Boyz.” I treasure these times and these games!
2) THE DEFENSE REFUSED TO WEAR DOWN! The defense’s “Phantom Touchdown,” scored by Reshad Jones, was not seen by ANYONE in our area. We were all focused on Matt Cassell, who’d been CRUSHED by Miami’s pass rush! Jones’s alert play was the difference between victory and defeat! In truth, the whole defense played their guts out in the sweltering heat! They were sensational!!!
3)TITANS FANS WERE RESPECTFUL and nice. What a difference from Jets’ fans!
4)EARLY OPENING OF THE PARKING LOT. The gates swung open about 9:00 AM, an hour earlier than posted. This wise choice allowed for easy entry between 10 and 11 AM, unlike the usual bottlenecks typical of prior home openers. Once inside, I had many nice chats with several U.S. Army guys who were guests of the Dolphins on Sunday. They, too, were respectful and nice to this old Army man.
5) SEND OUT THE DEFENSE! The Dolphins were set to receive the second half kick-off. As the return unit ran onto the field, I yelled out “SEND OUT THE DEEEEFENSE! They’re more likely to score than the offense!” A few fans chuckled and laughed!
6) FAU’S FOOTBALL TEAM crushed Old Dominion 58-28 Saturday Night. This had NOTHING to do with the Fins game (except put me in an even better mood). But my alma mater’s nearly FULL PAGE COVERAGE on p.2 of the Sun-Sentinel’s Sunday Sports section was the most publicity they’ve received since winning their last bowl game. The Owls ran for 453 yards, passed for about 100 more, and scored 8 rushing touchdowns! Bring on the Crimson Tide!!!
THE BAD:
1)NO GASOLINE or BEER at the Miccousukee convenience store at mile marker 49 on Alligator Alley between Naples and Ft. Lauderdale. Instead of the advertised “50 miles to next gas station,” it was actually 95 miles both going and coming without gasoline. Some of the intellectually challenged fans ran out of gas! This was REALLY BAD because – – –
2) THE FENCE ON BOTH SIDES OF ALLIGATOR ALLEY WAS HEAVILY DAMAGED BY IRMA!! Gators, giant snakes, Florida Panthers, etc., had nothing to stop them from strolling across the “ALLEY” for several stretches of the road!! Do NOT drive this road AT NIGHT until the fences on both sides are repaired!! This may take several MONTHS!!
3) THE O-LINE STUNK for several parts of the game. Were they snorting something?
4)LUXURY SEATS ON MIAMI’s side between the 30’s were over 50% vacant midway through the 1st quarter. That’s ACTUALLY BETTER THAN AVERAGE since Ross redesigned the stadium and kicked season ticket holders like me and “My Boyz” to distant places in the Stadium. Folks continue NOT TO PAY $1,000-$2,000 per ticket per game! SO THE SEATS STAY EMPTY!!!
5)BATTLE WITH MANAGEMENT; In the recent past, season ticket holders have gotten 10% off on food, beverage and official Dolphins’ paraphenalia sold at the stadium. All you had to do was flash your membership card to get the discount. NOW, however, you’re required to have a special “app” on a Dolphins’ approved I-Pad to get the discount! My little cell phone will NOT accept this “APP” so I am “shit out of luck” as I just found out. I have lodged my complaint with management over this issue. Just another way Ross screws some of his dwindling season ticket holders!!!
6) SMOKERS: YS and ME spent most of the second half under cover, away from the searing heat (which was taking a toll on YS)!! Yes, we wisely stayed in the shade. UNFORTUNATELY, the only 2 remaining seats we could find in this concession area were right beside a guy who, after a few minutes, ILLEGALLY LIT UP A CIGARETTE!! When I told him smoking was only legal out in the breezeways on the ramps, he replied “No one’s stopped me so far!” About 4 years ago I had a near fatal asthma attack after I got home from a game where i accidently was hit by heavy smoke from 4 teenage girls smoking where it was not legal to do so. I was NOT going to let that happen again, so, I got up and left the game about 5-10 minutes before I wanted to. Second hand smoke KILLS!! I hope this guy was dealt with.
THE UGLY:
1) I observed significant hurricane damage in the Naples area on this trip. Blue tarp roofs are very depressing. And HUGE trees totally uprooted and moved several hundred yards are scary. Many (most?) large road signs on I-75 near Naples were totally destroyed!!
2) JAY CUTLER–Worst starting QB in Dolphins’ history since George Wilson, Jr., in 1966! Chad Henne would be an upgrade!! Bull headed Adam Gase unwilling to admit he made an UGLY, expensive, mistake by paying Cutler $10M. Time to drug test the entire coaching staff!!
3) BLOWN CALL on offensive pass interference against Titans MAY have cost Tennessee a win. But, I’ll take it! But the call was UGLY WRONG!!
4) THE SNORTING O-LINE COACH! Ken’s right! This is actually GREAT NEWS for Miami! A drug-free coach should do a lot better than this guy!! BUT IT WAS UGLY!!
5)ATLANTA IS NEXT!! Falcons had a bye week to prepare for the Fins. You DO remember what a “BYE WEEK” is, right, folks? Miami’s now a 9 point ‘dog in this game. IT WILL BE UGLY!! Should put those attending the FEST in an UGLY MOOD NEXT SUNDAY after the Atlanta game!!–Bring on the Jets!! We want BLOOD!!
Wow, amazing , You didn’t miss a thing, lol. Hope it was all worth it, but hell yea all the hurricane clean up isn’t finished yet 😎
OD — was great sitting next to you watching the phins again. Great to read your take aways on it though. And do agree that the Titans fans were most polite, even if not that we spent most of the 2nd half inside….but we were there for a bit though.
Have your ticket holder…..will get back to you.
also PFF
S Reshad Jones, Miami Dolphins, 90.3 overall grade
Dolphins safety Reshad Jones was another player on the Miami defense who really stood out against the run on Sunday, registering four tackles on the 12 snaps against run when he lined up within eight yards of the line of scrimmage. Two of those tackles resulted in a defensive stop, giving him a run stop percentage of 16.7 percent.
Phindig I hope everything turns out ok for you and your family. Be safe.
PFF’s TOP 5 GRADES:
LB Kiko Alonso, 91.9 overall grade
S Reshad Jones, 90.3 overall grade
LB Lawrence Timmons, 85.7 overall grade
G Anthony Steen, 83.9 overall grade
DI Ndamukong Suh, 83.8 overall grade
PERFORMANCES OF NOTE:
QB JAY CUTLER, 73.8 OVERALL GRADE
Jay Cutler was not needed to do much against the Titans to get the win. While Cutler failed to throw for 100 yards and had one interception, he was more than willing to throw the ball away and not force anything other than the one interception, letting his defense and run game win the game. When Cutler was pressured, he only completed one on seven attempts for 14 yards.
C MIKE POUNCEY 82.0 OVERALL GRADE
With the struggles the Dolphins offense had against the Titans, it would seem easy to blame the offensive line. However, this would be unfair, as the offensive line managed to get movement in the run game. In the passing game, the unit only allowed five pressures on 28 dropbacks.
LB KIKO ALONSO, 91.9 OVERALL GRADE
KIKO ALONSO STOOD OUT IN A GAME THAT WILL NOT EXACTLY BE REPLAYED OFTEN. ALONSO WAS A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH, AS HE ALLOWED ONLY 18 YARDS IN COVERAGE ON FOUR TARGETS AND RECORDED 6 DEFENSIVE STOPS INCLUDING A SACK.
S RESHAD JONES, 90.3 OVERALL GRADE
Reshad Jones’ smart play of running the fumble for the touchdown in the first quarter ended up being the difference maker. He was also a force in the run game, recording three run stops on 20 running plays.
PFF seems to be laying the blame on Cutler not the OL.
We all need to reassess blaming Steen.
To all of our California brothers and sister (anyone heard from our girl out there?)
Jahn, Dog, et al (sorry if I do not know where all of you live)
Here’s wishing you and your property completely survives the fires intact and that this remains for you just another ugly news item.
If it weren’t for Reshad Jones, Davon Godchaux, Kiko Alonso, AND the refs (c’mon, guys… let’s be REAL here), we would/should have lost yesterday.
If we continue to play like we did yesterday, be prepared for no more than 5 wins this season. And I don’t care for the justifications of, “Well, the zebras usually screw us… it’s about time they favor us!”. NO!!!… two wrongs don’t make a right, and WE know how it feels to be screwed by the zebras, for crying out loud.
Gase had better get it figured out now and FAST. His loyalty to both Chris Forester and Jay Cutler is now concerning to me.
Cutler has longed concerned me. Lol
It was an empty hand, no part of his throwing motion contained the ball.
Then how did the ball go so forward down the field? If that shit got called on US, Brother, I’d be just a little more than too much furious at the refs.
Not sure how it went forward but when you look at the replay he didn’t throw it.
LOL, the refs decide close game every week. Think about it. Remember us up on the Pats and pushing them backwards only to have OV called for an unsportsmanlike penalty for pushing the ball further as he was trying to recover a fumble? Fuck them!!!! When we catch a break, I celebrate it because these assholes don’t care. The Pats have won a ton of games on questionable calls.
M13, you trying to be a dark cloud for a reason?
Herd..
Thanks for the well wishes. I have the smoke and my family is dealing with the fire. Fire trucks are in my sisters driveway. Looks like they are going to save her neighborhood but the folks 2 streets down are hoping the wind will change.. Not a good thing at all.
That sucks man. Praying for big ‘ol fat rain for you guys.
We started to hit some quick hitters in the 4th qtr, slants and outs the shit pass to Thomas was a great seam route but a poor throw. I just think those are the things we have to do. Stop spending time trying to set up blockers and block the man in front of you and get the ball out fast.
NOT being snarky or sarcastic to ya, Bro (and I never am)… but can you explain why we aren’t throwing a deep (or even a “medium ball”, as Brian noticed) ball to free-up 8 in-the-box for Ajayi to wreck shop?
I’m telling y’all, Cutler’s arm is INJURED. It’s not about getting the ball out more quickly, it’s about Cutler’s arm is INJURED.
He didn’t look injured on the Landry TD dart. I don’t know man if he’s hurt it doesn’t help anyone to have him out there.
I have looked at that replay a bunch, and it is the classic “empty hand” fumble.
Alonso made a great sack / fumble play.
The whistle did not blow and Reshad did the right thing : “scoop and score.”
We deserved that TD. That is what good defenses (ahem) do.
When I saw the play live my initial impression was it was a forward pass. When I saw the replay I am in agreement that it was a fumble. I think they got that one correct
The ball caromed off Alonso’s shoulder. (It seemed; i had a bad angle to see what body part, could’ve been the forearm.)
Also Cassell squeezed the ball as if trying to pinch hold of it to abort the throw, which also contributed to its forward trajectory.
That is known physics, and i have even done that myself without any LB involved.
I started yelling TD before Reshad took 2 steps.
And after 1 QTR of play, Sam Bradford is 1 of 5 for NEGATIVE 5 yards.
AND A SAFETY!!!
Enter the unfettered love of the great Case Keenum. The QB nobody thinks is their guy, except M13. LOL
OD would build his team around your evaluations, yet most of them are no longer in the league. Sorry M13, you and OD are getting a little too “told you so” annoying lately. It would be more impressive if there was more accuracy. You’ve been off on quite a few prospects you still champion. Just repeating it over and over doesn’t count or make them better.
The reason I say this is because the both of you chum up and fist pump each other over something while suggesting the rest of us don’t get it. It’s inaccurate and always has been. I’ve read it too many times and it’s not realistic. It’s also degrading.
Like Pat “fuckin” Elflein saving our season. Where’s he playing? Not center. Also when do we draft him? He went #70 when we took Tankersley #97 in the 3rd.
Sorry I’m coming off harsh, just tired of the two of you acting like everyone else is stupid but you two. Really, nobody but the two of you had concerns about the OL? Please!
IS THAT what I really said? When? AHHH, the old misquote. I’m gonna get a good night’s sleep. If that means I said U are stupid then I guess I’m guilty.
son of a son of a shula says:
October 9, 2017 at 9:07 pm
He didn’t look injured on the Landry TD dart. I don’t know man if he’s hurt it doesn’t help anyone to have him out there.
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I appreciate your take as much as anyone, my man. Yes… he DID throw a dart to Jarvis on the TD. So then… why are we holding Cutler back from throwing medium-deep? I don’t get it, Son.
Something is amiss. See the stats I posted up the board.
Cutler is both a little frazzled and lacking confidence. This is where we need our QB guru to get him straight. If they build off the 4th qtr and forget everything else we should start heading in the right direction. Give him plays early to get him confident and get everyone on the same page.
The hit made the ball go forward. it’s not that complex. Cassel’s arm was stationery and starting but never forward and Alonso’s hit made the ball jar out. He never threw it. The same with “The Tuck Rule”, that call was wrong and everyone knows it. But the Pats have a charmed existence.
F’n tuck rule THAT was a good reason to boycott the league lol
What do you MEAN the Patsies* have a charmed existence?!! LOL 😉
As for the penalty on the TD pass, yeah that was a bad break for them as the foul did not enable the TD, but it was a definite callable foul. The league is trying to crack down on pick plays and other shenanigans by offensive guys who for years have been immune to offensive PI.
I for one am glad they are calling that a little tighter, so bellycheat will think twice about designing plays that take advantage of offensive blocking and holding DBs.
I don’t know if Cutler is injured or not right now I think he just sucks and or doesn’t care right now. In all honesty I think a lot of his problems are mechanical right especially with not setting his feet right. He is particularly bad when rolling out
a QB prancing while throwing or throwing off his back foot is a low percentage, desperation move. Those should not be his two most prevalent throwing motions.
90% of a QB’s throws should be textbook form with the feet set and the over the top arm and optimal release point.
They can drop down and sling it side-arm and all that other crap once or twice a game and if it works great, but every throw cannot be a mechanical adventure.
I was really encouraged by the blocking for Ajayi in the 4th qtr. And we scored on a pass in the RZ.
Both of those are what we needed to see and something we can build on.
I agree. I’m hoping the light started coming on.
We can beat Atlanta with a mediocre offense we just can’t be inept. That D of ours is hitting its stride.
Son and Tim, you are two of my VERY favs, gents: I appreciate exchanging ideas with y’all going back some time ago!
I must bail: family biz (not good, either)
But before I bail, I want to say something… I (AND I THINK WE?) don’t like personal attacks on other bloggers, PERIOD. That’s always been the “Golden Rule” where ever we’ve been blogging over the years. Please cease and desist with that $#!t. Thank you.
AUDI
hope your kin issues resolve fast and to a positive outcome!
*I* hope
Hope everything is alright with your fam.
I’m not seeing any attacks but I’m not on as much as I used to be.
https://twitter.com/MDCheer/status/917453955713474560
Wow
Everson Griffen was my pick years ago the record will reflect.
Ken,
That’s always been one of Cutler’s issues…he has bad mechanics and just wings it. Unfortunately I saw him a fair amount up here in NFC country. He constantly makes throws when his feet aren’t set. At this point in his career, I’m not sure he’s gonna change.
When he was younger his arm was good enough to get away with it more often. Not that his arm is weak now but there is some natural decline with age. That combined with the lack of mechanics is really killing him and our team out there
Yanks are up 7-3 in game 4. They hold on and will go to a game 5
Bears and Vikes are 3-2. More like a baseball score
It’s pretty funny
Here’s the next player fired for taking Lude’s
I like that tshirt
Looks like a mug shot from the drunk tank!
Ken,
Yep! He’s also trying to avoid getting hit and throwing and dodging. That’s where I don’t think his heart is in it. He’s not hanging in the pocket. I can’t blame the guy, but you can’t play like that.
Say it Randy – you miss Tannehill. LOL. I totally agree with everything you said above.
We could call it the fair catch point?
Curtis K 🐬 🆙 @CurtisWKnisley 34m34 minutes ago
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They need to put a circle on the field between the hashes & 10 yard line/goal line. Punter get a pt if they hit. Need scoring for bad teams.
Man the hit’s just keep on coming!
NOTSportsCenter @NOTSportsCenter 22h22 hours ago
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Dolphins OL coach Chris Forester on the cocaine video: “You try coaching on a team with Jay Cutler and see how many drugs you end up doing.”
LMAO 😂
Uncalled for, not funny and frankly sad really
Well I do drink more watching the O so it kinda makes sence…
Ken,
Lol. Never. I’m looking at a top 3 draft pick and getting a true franchise QB.
That could happen
Why is that idiot slinging arrows? He’s the dumbass that made the video
He is a dumbass but it is funny. I am not even sure that is real
Oh yeah it says Notsportscenter. In that case it’s funny just wasn’t funny if it was really him.
That was a tweet from NOTsportCenter not Forester
Well at least the lunch trey won’t be lonely anymore with the rolled up dollar bill and mirror in the display case! 😦
Sheesh, lol
And a picture of Richies Lambo after he beat the shit out of it with the bat
Ken you know Randy will never come out of the closet with his TannyLove! 😉
Not to mention his hatred for all things QB!!
True that
Case keenum finally scores… trabisky is not the answer.. no draft pick will beat out Tanny 🖕
I just got done burying my dog in the backyard. On the bright side, my arms and pecs look incredible.
Aww that’s a drag man. Sorry about your dog
Sorry to hear that
sb7,
Total bummer….sorry to hear about that.
Fake punt goes for a score for da bears
Strange but Dan Marino was one of the biggest reasons I became a Dolphins fan, but yeah….I do dislike QBs intently.
But you are all in for the big uglies
The Vikes are going sweep left….sweep right…and making it work.