Week 5 – Game 4 – Tennessee @ Miami


The Tennessee Titans are coming to town, and luckily for the Miami Dolphins, we’re catching a little break.  Titans QB Marcus Mariota suffered a hamstring strain last week in their blowout loss to the Texans.  In Mariota’s place will be veteran QB Matt Cassel.  I think it’s going to take more than a break for us to beat the Titans.  It’s not that the Titans are unbeatable, because they got drubbed 57-14 last week.  The problem is, the guy on left in the picture above, has to figure out how to get the guy on the right to perform better, and start putting points on the board. Would you believe Cutler is completing 66.7% of his passes?  OK, would you believe his average yards per attempt is is a paltry 5.8YPA?  The majority of Cutler’s career, that number is 7 or better, with a couple of seasons where he had 6.6 and 6.8.  Under 6 yards per attempt is pathetic.  We have been unable to move the ball downfield through our passing game, and as of late, the running game too.  Gase has a lot of work to do.

Julius Thomas

Why is this guy still starting?  The only answer I can come up with is it’s only our 4th game.  That’s it.  He was so wide open last week against the Saints, not a player anywhere near him when Julius Thomas made his play of the year, a 23 yard reception where he was, lack of a better description, completely ignored by the Saints defense.  I don’t have game film, but this guy can’t block.  He’s not helping Jay Ajayi or Jay Cutler lining up as a TE.  I recall MarQueis Gray being a pretty impressive blocker, and not too shabby catching the ball either.  We all know Fasano can block, so how about jump starting this offense with a tandem of Gray and Fasano in a 2 TE set?  It’s been painful to watch Ajayi get the handoff, and always having to try to beat a defender just to get to the damn line of scrimmage.  Far too often this has been the case, and of course that’s not all on Julius Thomas, or any one OL, it’s all of them.  This O-line needs to find their nasty fast before the season slips too far away.


With Matt Cassel starting at QB, DeMarco Murray and Derrick Henry will be shouldering the load against us this Sunday for our 1st true Home game at The Rock.  Last week Cordrea Tankersely gave us a glimmer of a pretty solid YOUNG CB tandem, with he and Xavien Howard.  I’m a fan of Byron Maxwell, despite being much maligned by our fanbase, and I’ll be honest, he didn’t play well so far this season.  He started slow last year too, but ended up playing very well for us down the stretch.  His services may still be needed, so don’t hate on him too much.  Nate Allen is exactly what I expected him to be, underwhelming.  He’s done, but he’s our guy until week 9, when newly signed S T.J. McDonald comes off his 8 game suspension, which incidentally got pushed up a week thanks to our friend Hurricane Irma.

I think it’s going to be a physical game, the Titans have fashioned themselves as a physical team, with an aggressive run blocking O-line, and the  2 horses in Murray and Henry to carry the rock.  The Titans targeted their man in the 2016 draft, and with Tunsil still available at #8, the Titans nabbed OT Jack Conklin.  Conklin is not the physical specimen Laremy Tunsil is, but that guy is all heart and desire.  He’s a very physical player who never lets up.  The Titans O-line, especially their run blocking is their strength on offense.  LT Taylor Lewan and RT Jack Conklin are the bookends, with Quinton Spain at LG, Ben Jones at C and Josh Kline at RG.    This is an old school team, coached by and old school HC, Mike Mularkey, along with some old school assistants, like Terry Robiskie and Dick LeBeau.

Speaking of Dick LeBeau, he’s been around longer than NFL films has.  Not really, but he’s been a defensive coach in the NFL for 29 years.  The Titans have a pretty good front 7, base 3-4 defense.  DaQuan and Jurrel Casey are the ends, with Sylvester Williams at the nose. Big, physical LB’s are the thing here, with Derrick Morgan, Wesley Woodyard, Avery Williamson and of course, Brian Orakpo.  Logan Ryan (from NE) and LeShaun Sims are the corners, along with Jonathan Cyprien (SS) and Kevin Byard (FS).  This season so far, even before last weeks blowout at the hands of the Texans, this defense has not been getting it done.  They have allowed 126 points in 4 games, which puts them at 30th in the NFL.  Of course, this week, we face them after a blowout loss, so LeBeau will have these guys angry and riled up.

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What we need is Ajayi running in space.  He’s got to have some creases to run through, and lately, they haven’t been there.  I think we all know Ajayi is the key to getting this offense going, and of course, opposing defenses do as well, which is why they have been focused on shutting him down at all costs, and it’s working.  It seems we can’t rely on Jay Cutler to throw the rock all over the yard, hitting bombs to Parker, Stills and Grant.  Maybe someday, but it hasn’t materialized yet.  Get Ajayi going, and work it from there.

GO DOLPHINS!  Zero in!  Please . . .

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650 Responses to Week 5 – Game 4 – Tennessee @ Miami

  1. son of a son of a shula says:

    Brian, I’m staying at Sun Beach Inn in Hollywood on Ocean drive. Phindog and Tina are staying at Neptunes. I’m right next to them.

  2. son of a son of a shula says:

    Holy Page turn. Wow I got it!

  3. D says:

    Piggy, i didnt think Obama was a racist, but he exposed more than people not liking him because he was a black president, there were equal number who liked him just because he was black and thats pretty bad too. A person should be judged on their merit not their skin color, whether or not you see them better or worse for it. He also got involved in racially charged events and rushed to judgement without accessing the situation, and he had times he sided and pandered to one race over another.

    I dont at all think of that as racism, but he leaned in a way on issues that i think started people feeling like their actions, which were racially charged and ugly, were justified, and back by the most powerful man in the country. This started an us vs them thing going, and if you think it only came from one side, you a turning a blind eye completely to the other.

    I dont credit Obama for this as it is now, as it very much seems like you are insinuating im doing, but i will say he had a part in it. This shit started sliding while he was in office, while he could have really made things better, by being that example of a black man who achieve the highest position in the country, a guy both black and white, who could have given a really great perspective on being either. I hold him only accountable for not trying more to do that, and actually contributing to the worsening of it.

    When i say too it to a whole other level, you have to understand the tone of how im saying that. In my mind, that phrase is equal to saying exponentially worse. He’s a powder keg of turmoil, he cant relate as a human being to others, he has fucked race relations right in its ass. Does that make it a more clear and acceptable level to you?

    There is a big difference in acknowledging wrong in two people who were wrong in their actions toward race relations and acknowledging that they both contributed to it, and giving a guy a pass just because he wasn’t on the same level as another. You treat me like im a support of his, im not, you treat me like im defending him, im not. You treat me like i support what he is doing, IM NOT. Im saying Obama was not perfect either and he hurt race relations too. If you think this is a white hating blacks only problem (ie your assertion that Obama’s presidency only hurt race relations because it exposed white hatred) you really got to open your eyes dude, whites are also hated by blacks and racism isn’t a white condition its a human one.

  4. son of a son of a shula says:

    I’m celebrating Tom Petty tonight

    I said you don’t have to live like a refugee…

    RIP Tom

    You can grove with George and Roy again

  5. Brian in NY says:

    Thanks Son

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      The place I’m staying at actually has a side street address I think Oklahoma so it must be right behind Neptunes

  6. sb7mvp says:

    are you located in Mobile?

    • D says:

      I work in Mobile, i live in Mississippi just west of the Alabama line.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      He’s close. Shouldn’t be too bad D hang tough bro

      • D says:

        Yeah im not sweatin it. Might bring the cats move some stuff off my deck so it cant fly around an break windows, bring the cats in, but other than that im not expecting too much really bad stuff to hit us. We are a decent ways away from the coast.

      • D says:

        I guess ill bring the cats in take them out and bring them in again since i mentioned that twice lol.

  7. wyoming85 says:

  8. son of a son of a shula says:

    Here comes my girl
    She’s all I need tonight…

    We’ll miss you Tom

  9. Tim Knight says:

    Son, Petty’s Refugee is a tune that was part of my young teen era. It’s a huge song for many of my friends and I. It brings us back to 79/80 14-15 years old.

  10. mf13ss says:

    Know what messes me up BIG time today? LAC and LAR. To me? LAC= LA Clippers and LAR= LA Raiders.

    So now we’ve got two teams in LA… when the city has been known to barely sustain one NFL team at a time at any given point in history.

    Then we go to the “Charles Lindbergh” (Spirit of St. Louis) model of the NFL Cardinals. They started in St. Louis [same name as their baseball team, just like the New York baseball Giants (who later moved to San Francisco) and the New York football Giants], moved to Phoenix (hence the then ‘Phoenix Cardinals’), and then became the now known Arizona Cardinals.

    Then St. Louis rediscovered football when the failing LA Rams moved to St. Louis: the St. Louis Rams (“Greatest Show on Turf” days). And after major success in St. Louis, Stan Kroenke decided to move the Rams BACK to LA.

    The then failing LA Raiders moved back to Oaktown to re-become the Oakland Raiders… who are rumored to relocate to Las Vegas… just as the Maloof Brothers (owners of the Sacramento Kings) have been rumored to relocate to Las Vegas (hint: to get out of uber-taxed and failing California).

    The Colts moved from Baltimore to Indianapolis, but Baltimore got a team back when the Modell’s moved the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore as the Ravens… and then shortly after, the Browns re-emerged under new ownership in Cleveland.

    Beginning in 1995, Jacksonville introduced an expansion team to the NFL: the Jaguars. It marked the first time the state of Florida had THREE NFL teams. That rivaled California what with the Raiders, Chargers, and ‘9ers at the time. But Florida is tax-free(!), and Cali is the worst state in the republic in terms of financial debt to the nation… it won’t work for LA.

    Now then (and if one is able to keep up with all the moves I’ve cited above! LOL)… St. Louis and San Diego (HOT SPOTS/HUGE MARKETS for sports) are now without a team, and LA will NOT be able to sustain both — or even one — of the Rams or Chargers.

    LAC and LAR??? Really?!! LMAO 😆

    Why did Roger Goodell do everything he could to get two NFL teams into the failed (time and time and time again) Los Angeles market? Shit was doing NICE in San Diego and St. Louis, truth be told. Is the 4th time a charm now… now that Cali is $1.3 TRILLION in debt to the nation?


  11. mf13ss says:


    Dude… I didn’t realize that the bananas you thought of giving away to neighbors were ROTTEN. Perhaps I misjudged you after all…

    • Tim Knight says:

      Oy! Can we get out of the mud and move on? Not on anyone personally, I think we’re past this topic already. Something that I thought was a real issue has become a goofy parody. I played along, but geez it has to stop at some point. It’s like saying, “what are you doing?” “I don’t know, what are you doing?”

  12. wyoming85 says:

    May work? May Not!

  13. The Flying Pig says:
  14. Phindog says:

    Son.. You bring a guitar and I can play for hours… They don’t fly well as the necks warp. We can hit the beach at night and I will play a shit ton of songs. 😎🎼🎼🎸🎸👍👍🐕

    • Phindog says:

      Steel strings not nylon.. I’m not Charro.. Cuchie Cuchie 😆

    • herdfan says:


      Here’s an idea for you. I’m not usually inclined to say good things about the ex, but he is very musically inclined. Back in the day, I’ll say the 90’s, we went on quite a few trips, getting together with guys/wives from his residency days. They all played guitar…very well in fact. So we’re in San Francisco, he didn’t bring a guitar that trip. My suggestion, which we did, we bought a guitar at a pawn shop…sold it back a few days later before we left. It’s like renting. 🙂

  15. Mike E. says:

    Sounds like music and beers on the beach! Awesome!

  16. naplesfan2010 says:

    The Cardinals started in Chicago (for 30 yrs) and the Rams started in Cleveland (for 10 yrs), but you are too young to know that, so it’s ok.

  17. Mike E. says:

    I didn’t know guitars get damaged on flights, I just know they can be a hazard for a sick girl on IV’s.

  18. The Flying Pig says:

    Calm down Mike
    Get a hold of yourself

  19. BailBondMike says:

    D, even though I am about 4 miles from the gulf coast (10 min from Perdido Key) and 45 min SE of Mobile, I am not all that concerned either. I am located right in between Jim Cantori and the other guy at Pensacola Beach. LOL I just put my pool furniture in the shed and trash cans in the garage and came to work.

  20. Mike E. says:


    Not that we didn’t know what the deal was, but this explains why Landry is only averaging 6.6 YPR

  21. olddolphan says:

    HEADING OUT FOR SOUTH FLORIDA NOW! –Will stay @ sister & Brother-in -Laws’ house in Pompano Beach tonight. Then I’ll meet YOUNG STANGER in the parking lot tomorrow.. I think THIS GAME offers Fins their BEST CHANCE to win another game among the 13 left on the schedule – – and WE’RE STILL UNDERDOGS!! IN FACT, MIAMI IS NOT FAVORED IN ANY GAME LEFT ON THEIR 2017 SCHEDULE AS OF TODAY!! —ouch!!!!
    YOUNG STANGER & I will try to get the fins headed in the right direction!!

  22. Mike E. says:

    I need to start calling him Young Stanger. I love that!

    • stangerx says:

      Gotta admit have no problem with that one…he’s the only who calls me “young” these days. And you and Jetsssuck seem to be the only ones on the board who can do that in truth. Maybe Naples and SB7 too.

  23. BailBondMike says:

    M13, If we lose Landry to F/A, WR Anthony Miller of Memphis is a guy I had my eye on since last year. He was one of Paxton Lynch’s go to guys (95 rec, 1434 yds, 14 TD’s in 2016). Last night he had 15 rec for 224 yds and 4 TD’s against UCONN (I know UCONN sucks). Also, Memphis QB Riley Ferguson has a cannon for an arm. He is a rebel, bounced around and was out of football for a year before coming to Memphis. He’s a gun slinger type QB and takes chances on throws that sometimes gets him in trouble but that can be fixed. They both are on my watch list and Ferguson will be a late round guy (rebel) if he comes out after this year.

    • If we lost Landry to FA, then it’s captain obvious the team has no coherent team building strategy at that point.
      We draft a lot of players that don’t work out, if we jettison the players that DO make it big for us, how do We become a great team?
      This dog won’t hunt

  24. Dan Marino started and played exceptionally well for Seventeen Years!
    The next Eighteen years After Marino retired, the Dolphins have had Eighteen Starting quarterbacks.
    We will never have another Marino, but a starting QB would be nice!

    • Tim Knight says:

      We do have a starting QB, he got hurt. Tannehill will be back in 2018. People speculate about him being released. I bet that doesn’t happen.

      • I hope so, but I feel like We have to draft like We have nothing at QB.
        Mm is older than dirt and won’t last forever, and questions abound around Both RT and Cutler.
        It’s time to draft a first round stud QB in here again IMO, and take one late too

    • Ken says:

      We may well draft a QB this year. I am not knocking Tannehill who I have always liked. However unless we get our shit together on offense we are going to have a high draft choice and the top of the draft will have some high value QBs that will be hard to pass up

  25. I hope we do move on from Tannehill, he got injured in 2016, and can’t play til 2018?
    Dolphins can’t wait around years for injuries, it’s time to move on IMO.
    I hunk RT gets a chance to compete, but we need to bring in someone better and more durable IMO. RT cannot be viewed as our starting QB IMO, barely remember the guy he’s been gone so long, SMH

    • A Sarcastic barely remember, but hes been gone too long IMO

    • Tim Knight says:

      Tannehill will miss the season, but in reality he’s only missed 6 regular season games at this point. Until he had this knee injury, he never missed a game.

      We can speculate all we want, but I bet you he’s our starting QB in 2018.

      • Ken says:

        Until late last season he had never missed a start

      • Tim Knight says:

        Right, it’s one injury, it’s not like he’s always banged up and missing games. He had the surgery this time and should be good to go by OTAs even if limited at first.

  26. Tim Knight says:

    David, Matt Moore is 33. It’s not like he’s going to fall apart holding a clipboard in a year. LOL

    If we did draft a QB high because we had a shit season, what is the point in drafting one late?

    • No reason to not draft one late, we waste our late picks on shit anyway.
      MM isn’t the answer, and even though the clipboard won’t wear him out, lol he’s not going to win many games in the NFL anymore

      • Tim Knight says:

        He’s a backup David. We already spent a late rd pick on a QB who can’t make the team. If you draft a QB early, all the reps are going to Tannehill and him. The late rd QB would be a waste of time.

  27. stangerx says:

    “Not at all. For me, personally, there is a blank spot in the backfield. I will get there no matter who’s standing in the spot, that’s just the way I look at it….at the end of the day, it’s nameless, faceless entity that you try to destroy every chance you get.”

    — Wake on whether he cares who lines up at QB for the Titans.

  28. If Marino in his prime suited up for us in 2018, we wouldn’t be talking about offensive scoring problems, we would be discussing offensive scoring instead.
    It’s the QB, We had 18 in 18 years with little to show for it.
    We need one of the best QB,s in the draft, or We will have offensive problems next year, and next year,,,,,,

    • Tim Knight says:

      We made the playoffs last year didn’t we? Was it because of our defense?

    • Ken says:

      Marino is gone and the odds of finding another like him are small. Even a guy like Luck who came out like a gang buster is looking like he will never be a Marino. The evaluation will be is there anyone who will be better than a healthy Tannehill. Looking at the short term that is unlikely but in terms of future upside I do think there are prospects in this draft that will eventually play at a higher level than Tannehill has

      • We don’t need another Marino, but a Deshaun Watson would be MUCH better than what We have

      • Not ALL QB take 2 years to recover from injury, RT does.
        What if he gets hurt and misses a couple more years? It’s time to bring a stud in, and best guy starts, whoever that is

      • Ken says:

        We are down to a backup QB. Very few teams can survive the loss of their starting QB for more than a handful of games. Also while Watson had a nice game last week I am not ready to anoint him the next great thing. I see holes in his game and I expect he will come down to earth

      • don’t want Watson and 57 points when we have Cutler putting up Zero?
        We may have to disagree here, but all good my brother!

      • Ken says:

        Obviously if a someone is going to miss a couple of more years you are going to be moving on. That is kind of a silly statement. Tannehill’s health at draft time will be a significant factor in what we do at the draft imo

      • Ken says:

        David I didn’t say I wouldn’t take Watson over Cutler I am just saying don’t put him in the hall of fame because of one game.

      • But that’s just it, when is RT going to be able to play? No one knows, he never took us to the playoffs anyway, but came close if he could have played a half dozen more games or so.

        I like RT, nice guy and all, but there are potential HOF QBs out there, and it behooves us to try for one.

  29. Deshaun Watson, rookie QB puts 57 on the board, versus the veteran Cutler, who gave us 0 points 2 weeks in a row except for a last second garbage TD 2 weeks back

  30. Tim Knight says:

    David, it’s as if you’re not even aware of Tannehill’s situation. You know he tried without surgery and it didn’t hold up. This time he had the surgery. His knee injury wasn’t horrific. He will be back. You’re starting to go all over the place. Marino, Watson etc. What’s the point?

    The PIT playoff loss was due to us playing with too many 2nd and 3rd string players. We were depleted at the end of the year. You don’t throw out the entire season because of one game. Just like you don’t make too much out of Watson having one big game. And I like Watson, but we weren’t in the market for a QB in the 1st rd in April. Try to keep it real. LOL

  31. Tim Knight says:

    “but there are potential HOF QBs out there”

    Really, like who? I count 5 HOF QBs in the league and they’re not going anywhere.

  32. Ken says:

    David when you say there are potential I am uncertain to what you mean. If you are referring that is a gross exaggeration. The odds of the number 1 overall pick ever making the HOF are extremely rare. Even as good as some of these guys look it is very rare. You are making scouting and drafting sound much simpler than it is

  33. Imagine if Miami drafted a stud next year similar to Watson, and RT comes back healthy.
    Cutler and MM won’t be needed, and Miami is SET at QB for now, AND the future.
    If RT can beat out the stud first round QB, great for the Dolphins, perfect!
    If he can’t, then the new guy must be damn good, and then we have a quality backup in RT as well.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Watson had one big game. So let’s forget Tannehill’s many good games and put Watson in the HOF after 4 games. LOL

      We’ll see how he responds once NFL opponents have enough film on what his flaws are and they take away his comfort zone. Happens all the time.

    • Google “potential” lol. Your not getting it

      • How about a rookie QB that comes into the NFL and kicks ass? Fuck the HOF, lol it’s sidetracking the real point.
        This is it,
        what about a great rookie QB, similar to Watson next year in the draft, ?

      • Tim Knight says:

        You’re acting like you just started watching the NFL this year. LOL

        Look where Luck is at. Where’s RGIII? What about Derek Carr, he’s having back issues that could derail his career.

        We’ll talk about Watson and HOF in 10 years.

      • It’s ok, I clearly can’t get You to drop the HOF, Your stuck on it, lol I said forget it, fuck the HOF, what about a Rookie QB that comes into the NFL that kicks ass? Then Your back to HOF again and again, ok
        You ignore the rookie QB that comes into the NFL and kicks ass part , when THAT was the point, not the HOF
        have a good one

  34. wyoming85 says:

    I’m sure the Fins would love to draft a “STUD” QB!
    But we keep trying to fix the OL?

  35. Tim, instead of accusing me of being all over the place, why not instead ask for a clarification, of what You clearly didn’t understand?

    • Tim Knight says:

      I believe I’ve done that in all my responses. Every young prospect who gets drafted high has potential. You brought up HOF after one big game. Most of your points are all your own speculation. Did you expect us to draft a QB in the 1st rd this year? No you didn’t, nobody did. Hindsight is a fun thing isn’t it? And it’s still too early to project a great career for any rookie after 4-5 games.

  36. Your just twisting things and making jokes, ok, that’s your point, and it’s a lovely point, one more point than what Cutler put up last week, lol. We won’t win any games like this buddy, all kidding aside

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m not twisting anything. I responded to your points seriously and only made jokes about your extreme points.

      Our current situation has nothing to do with it. We’re all aware of how we’ve looked on offense the last 2 games. It’s been horrible. Cutler will not be back next year. We all know why he’s here.

  37. Tim Knight says:

    David, what is this incredible point you made that I’m missing?

    • No worries, not worth the effort imo.
      Hint, have a great time while You’re in Canton, say hello to Dan for us!
      Hint, We could have traded up in 2017 draft, or we can also do whatever it takes in 2018 to get a QB that can come into the NFL and kick ass rookie season.
      THATS it, nothing to do with HOF.
      Also I’ve watched Dolphins football since 72, so to hell with your sound like just started watching football shit accusation.
      you are too argumentative, divisive, and assuming today IMO

      So OF COURSE I’m done with talking with You today

      • Tim Knight says:

        Okay David. Ken had the same issue with what you were saying but it’s all about me. Have a good day.

  38. mf13ss says:

    BailBondMike says:
    October 7, 2017 at 12:34 pm
    M13, If we lose Landry to F/A, WR Anthony Miller of Memphis is a guy I had my eye on since last year. He was one of Paxton Lynch’s go to guys (95 rec, 1434 yds, 14 TD’s in 2016). Last night he had 15 rec for 224 yds and 4 TD’s against UCONN (I know UCONN sucks). Also, Memphis QB Riley Ferguson has a cannon for an arm. He is a rebel, bounced around and was out of football for a year before coming to Memphis. He’s a gun slinger type QB and takes chances on throws that sometimes gets him in trouble but that can be fixed. They both are on my watch list and Ferguson will be a late round guy (rebel) if he comes out after this year.
    Thank you, BBMike. I’m not familiar with either of Anthony Miller or Riley Ferguson, but I’ll certainly check them out under your always very good advice.

    I appreciate how you stated “if” we lose Landry. In today’s world, NOTHING is certain… good looking out on your part for a contingency plan in the event we do lose Landry to FA next year.

    Me too on looking for a QB. I REALLY, REALLY liked what I saw in Richard Lagow (gun-slinger from Indiana) last year as a junior (minus some bone-headed INTs), but it seems he’s not developing this year as a senior. I agree that these issues can be fixed, but the regression I’ve seen in Lagow is most disappointing. I’ll turn some attention to Riley Ferguson.

    Good stuff, BBMike. I ALWAYS appreciate your take on the college game, man.

  39. rgs322 says:

    I get what David is saying and for the most part agree, but I would probably use the label franchise rather than HOF. The way I see it, if a potential franchise QB falls to us in the 1st round you have to take him. I’ve mentioned before that Josh Rosen is the guy I really want, but we probably won’t be in a position to get him. …he’s probably a top 3 pick.

    Also, I just don’t think we have a QB playing for us or on the sideline right now that can take us to the Super Bowl.

    On a side note, along with Rosen, Bradley Chubb-DE NC St is my other 1st round man crush.

  40. Tim Knight says:

    Let’s look at how our season has unfolded since TC. We lost Larsen our starting LG for at least 8 weeks. Then Tannehill not having knee surgery didn’t hold up and he’s lost for the season. We then bring in Cutler. Lippett who was developing nicely at corner went down for the year with an Achilles in practice. In our 1st PS game our 2nd rd pick and projected starting MLB McMillan tore his ACL on his very first play on STs being hit by his teammate. Then our 1st game is cancelled due to hurricane Irma and we’ve been on the road up until now.

    It hasn’t exactly gone smooth for our team so far. But we’re only 1-2 and need a win to get some confidence back and try to have a successful season. We can turn this thing around if the offense cleans up their act.

  41. mf13ss says:


    Guess who’s going to be #3 in the land after today?!!
    GO PSU!!!
    HELL YEAH!!!

    • BailBondMike says:

      Thanks Wy, yeah Ferguson shit a brick that UCF game after lighting up a ranked UCLA team 2 weeks earlier. That was a game where the gun slinger in him got him in trouble. The whole team looked like crap that game and not just Ferguson. I didn’t know Ferguson was touted that highly. Was hoping he was under the radar a bit.

  42. BailBondMike says:

    M13, Yeah, I feel the same way about Lagow. I’m not seeing the same guy as last year either. IU doesn’t have the run game they did the last 2 years so defenses must be focusing on their passing game. I don’t know.
    I was mistaken, Ferguson is a senior. If you watched that video, you can see Ferguson throwing 30/40 yard lasers without much arch. I do think he will be a project but that is all I am looking at are mid to late round QB’s since we have Tanny and MM.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Let’s just say for arguments sake that Tannehill and Moore are the QBs next year. We usually only keep two, so that mid to late rd guy is likely headed to the PS. The only way a rookie QB makes the team next year is if we end up taking one early, or a rookie beats out Moore. We really don’t know how the FO will address the QB situation because we don’t know the results of the season or what Tannehill’s status will be in April. He’ll be in his 8th month of healing and rehab at that point.

  43. BailBondMike says:

    M13, WR Anthony Miller (IMO) will make a really good slot guy in the NFL but can also play on the outside. He’s got that stocky build like Landry and plays tough. Can make Landry type catches as well. Check out the one at the 40 sec mark:

  44. wyoming85 says:

  45. Randy says:

    I’m not ready to give up on the season yet. I thought we’d hover around .500 anyway. What I’d like to see is some growth in our offense…especially our OL. Larson was a very average player his whole career, so I don’t think him going out made a huge difference. Plus, he was new to us, so it’s not like he had years of continuity with this unit. Either way, I thought they’d be doing better. I was expecting some improvement. Like him or not, Albert was a leader and a solid vet presence in the locker room from all accounts. Pouncey says he’s a leader…ok. I don’t really know what’s going on. Bad play all around. We’re not moving anybody off the LOS, and we’re allowing penetration on zone runs…the last thing you want. The PP has been good at times…but too often not. Guards have been bad to just ok for the most part.
    Tannehill would have probably performed better than Cutler has. He should. He’s been playing with these guys for years. Cutler has been hot and cold…gee, what a shock…since that’s what he’s been his whole career. He’s still got the arm and always been a smart QB, but he’s not getting much help. We’ll see if he’s a true leader. Parker has made some nice plays but not enough. Ajayi is looking good again, but he’s not getting help from the OL. I hope he doesn’t get beat up and start tailing off. Same old tune. We can’t push defenses back and dictate play. And, finally, we continue to be a team with easy tendencies. Do you guys/gals sit at home and predict as many of our plays as I do? It’s not hard. We haven’t established anything though…not even a simple stretch run play to get 4 yards. Nothing. Cutler is the QB, so ultimately it’s his job to get the offense in the endzone. QB is your playmaker, but he’s struggled. Unfortunately, lots of other guys have too….including Gase.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Regardless of what you think of Larsen he was the starter at LG and was brought in because they liked him for the scheme we run. He also has much more experience than Steen and Davis.

      The coaches and players say Pouncey is a leader and Gase also said Pouncey has graded out off the charts in total contrast to what PFF says.

      I agree with you on most of what you said though. The offensive is not cohesive and yes plays are predictable much of the time. Gase is definitely part of that and they all need to raise their games. We have too much talent to be getting shut out and for the most part we got shut out by the Jets all day as well, scoring at the end of the game.

      It’s hard to talk much about game planning and such until this team gets out of this ridiculous funk and show us it was a just a bad couple of weeks. We need this game tomorrow to build some confidence and keep playing better. If we didn’t have any talent I’d say it’s going to be a long season, but I really don’t think that’s the case. Each player has to look at themselves in the mirror and do their job better. Gase and his staff especially on offense have to do the same. The defense has been solid so far.

  46. Brian in NY says:

    mf13ss says:
    October 7, 2017 at 3:29 pm

    Guess who’s going to be #3 in the land after today?!!
    GO PSU!!!
    HELL YEAH!!!
    I’ll have to say, I’m pretty concerned with the OL (seems to be a theme every year with both our football teams). The kicking game has me EXTREMELY concerned as well. You or I have a better chance of nailing a FG in a key spot than he does. We definitely need to recruit a good kicker for next year.

  47. ElephantRider says:


  48. Tim Knight says:

    We also lost Urbik to a knee injury so he was released with an injury settlement. He was going to be a key backup C/G and would probably be starting at LG right now. We also put rookie Eric Smith on IR who showed some promise at tackle. You can’t lose players who were in the mix and keep blaming the FO for not addressing the OL. It’s not true. It changes the dynamics of the unit when guys go down. We have to fight through it and guys have to play better. Simple as that.

  49. Tim Knight says:

    How about some positive stuff. Our potential secondary moving forward into the future could be:
    CB Howard 6-1 196
    CB Tankersley 6-1 196
    S Jones 6-1 223
    S McDonald 6-2 223
    DS Allen 6-1 214
    NB McCain 5-11 192

    I know some people are down on McCain and lukewarm about Allen but both have played solid. Allen plays mostly deep safety, isn’t getting beat over the top and has been active tackling.

    This is a big and fast secondary. Some youth and vets. It could be really good in the 2nd half of the season.

  50. ElephantRider says:

    You hit it Ken.

    Nobody is making any impact plays. NOBODY

    • D says:

      I know MikeE has echoed this before, and i know i have said it a ton of times. People stare to hard at the stats and what they think is an “impact play” PD’s are WAY more telling of how good a CB is playing than ints. Int are kind of just an extension of being at the right place at the right time and that starts with being around the ball and in position to make the play. Thats what the PD stat shows, so if you are sat watching watch that one. I think our CBs are doing a really good job of being in position, which means INTS will follow, its just not going to be necessarily a gaudy stat or number of INTS, If Tankersly finishes the season with 15PD’s and 3INTs, that’s a fucking fantastic season especially for a rookie, hell id be really hopeful to see that out of Howard or McCain.Infact if McCain had 15-20PDs and no ints, id be pretty happy with his play. Slot corners dont get a lot of chances to intercept.

      • D says:

        This was Maxwell from last year. 15PD’s 2INTs. thats a really good year. You heard him talk abotu how he is one of the best CB’s after last year, and yeah it took him getting benched to turn it around, but thats a friggin good year. Being that he is a boundary CB and we played a lot of press zone, really good season. Josh Norman only had slightly better numbers than him, and Maxwell was benched for what 2 or 3 games?

        Im not defending Maxwell in general, he hasnt been doing shit this year so far, so more using it as a reference how some stats dont say as much as others, because a lot of it is scheme, and it could be you had a weaknss on the opposite side so they didnt throw to his as much, yadda yadda.

        Right now we got two kids, one is on pace for 14 PD’s (Tankersly), and he has improved from game 1 to game 2. He eventually is going to get the timing down and snag a few. The other is on pace for about 8 but they arent throwing to his side much, which means his guy isnt open as often. I dont think he has been playing “great” but its pretty solid for a guy who is really in season 1.5, due to his inability to start right away for us last year.

        McCain hasnt played well, until this last game and he was lights out this last game. Hopefully he will keep playing like that but its early and its important for him to step up because he’s got a contract to get signed soon.

        I think the secondary is definately on the upswing, give rookie and rookie+.5 a little more time. they seem to be establishing themselves and by end of the season i wouldnt be surprised to see 2-3 ints for either of them.

  51. D says:

    If you are looking for silver linings… this is the one you should focus on.

    “Miami Dolphins remain one game out of AFC East”

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