Week 6 – Game 5 – Dolphins @ Falcons

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The Miami Dolphins, fresh off a great defensive performance against the Tennessee Titans at home at Hard Rock Stadium, now have to travel to play one  of the NFL’s best offensive teams, a team fresh off a BYE week.  The Falcons have scored 104 points so far this season in 4 games, which is exactly 63 points more than the Dolphins have scored.  Doing some quick math in my head, the Falcons are averaging 26 points per game, while the Dolphins are averaging just better than 10 points per game.  See a problem?

Jay Cutler, Matt Moore

HC Adam Gase insists he is not changing from current starter Jay Cutler to backup QB Matt Moore.  Some people are really upset about this, while some proclaim Cutlers arm is damaged, or his brain is shell shocked, and he can’t stand in the pocket because he’s afraid to take a hit, and despite all that, Gase stands behind Cutler as his starter.  I know we’re so used to failure here in MIA, that even Gase the Great is now under tremendous scrutiny!  What happened to “Trust in Gase’?  Like Lucilla said so well, “The mob is fickle brother”.  How true!  Now all of a sudden we all know better than Gase, the guy who is with this team nearly 24/7, the one who is getting paid the big bucks to guide this team back to the playoffs, the one whose job security is on the line?  Maybe we should step back and let Gase handle the situation.  Do we really think Gase is clueless all of a sudden?  I truly doubt he is.

This Sunday’s game provides quite a challenge, the rested Falcons have a multidimensional offense, with 2 talented RB’s who can both run and catch extremely well, Devonta Freeman and Tevin Coleman.  Freeman has 285 yards rushing, while his backfield mate Tevin Coleman has just 181 yards rushing.  They flip flop though on receiving yards, with Coleman putting up 153 yards receiving on 13 receptions, and Freeman with only 70 on 9 receptions.  Both of these backs have around 350 yards of total offense, so no team gets a break with either of them on the field.  That’s not all the Falcons offer on offense, far from it.  The Falcons have one of the premier receivers in the NFL in Julio Jones.  Jones has been hobbled by injuries this season, a lower leg injury early, a back injury, and most recently in Game 4 against the Bills before the BYE, a hip flexor injury.  He has been limited to only 19 receptions for 295 yards, no TD’s, a very pedestrian start for the season.  The BYE week should have allowed him to heal some, so we’ll see what Julio Jones can do against Xavien Howard and Cordrea Tankersley.

The Falcons defense is nothing special this season, although last season they were pretty good.  They have excellent team speed, with a speedy group of LB’s that fly to the football, with Vic Beasley, Deion Jones and De’Vondre Campbell.  The Falcons also have 2 of the better NFL CB’s, Des Trufant and Robert Alford.  Patrolling the secondary is S Keanu Neal, who forced 5 fumbles last season, along with S Ricardo Allen.  The front 4 are average, except DT Dontari Poe.  Brooks Reed and Courtney Upshaw are the ends, with Dontari Poe and Grady Jarrett as the DT’s.  Tak McKinley is on the depth chart at DE, a guy I liked for the Dolphins.

The way the Dolphins defense played last week, I think the defense can do enough to keep us in this game, but something has to get this offense going or we will be out of this one by halftime.  Devante Parker will likely be a game time decision with his ankle injury, so that means either Jakeem Grant or Leonte Carroo, or some combination of the 2, would replace him.  Parker brought so much promise in the preseason, a guy ready to make that leap to elite status, yet a bewildered offense led by Jay Cutler hasn’t allowed that to come to fruition. Gase has to find a way for this offense to get on track.  Obviously getting the run game going would help, but maybe we have to get the passing game going to get the run game going.  Maybe we have to try and throw the ball deeper than 10 yards past the LOS, and challenge opposing defenses.  Why we haven’t done so is a combination of things.  Plays are breaking down too quickly due to the offensive line not holding up their part,  QB Jay Cutler is flustered too quickly as soon as he either senses or actually sees pressure, and it also seems none of the receivers are playing with any urgency and are fighting to get open.  This has to change, or we will be 2-3 after this week.

Miami Dolphins mini camp

I still Trust in Gase.  We Dolphins fans are used to bailing on our coaches, mostly because they deserved it, but I don’t think Gase deserves that quite yet.  So despite all the FU doctors, QB gurus, OC’s etc, maybe we should give Gase a chance to turn the offense around, just like he did last year, at 1-4.  How bout it you stubborn SOB’s, can you do it?  Can you be a loyal fan to the coach who brought us to the playoffs last season?  Will you kneel when Gase runs through the tunnel and on to the field?  Will that be disrespectful if you do?  I guess that’s all in the individual eye of the beholder . . .

GO DOLPHINS!  Zero in!

 

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703 Responses to Week 6 – Game 5 – Dolphins @ Falcons

  1. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    First and Oink

  2. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I just posted this on the other blog article.

    Here’s what I think about Cutler.
    1. He didn’t have the necessary reps in the offseason and TC and has a dead arm.
    2. Whether the shoulder surgery, age, combo of both, he lost something on his fast ball.
    3. He just doesn’t have it in him to play at a level he once did. It happens.

    Our best hope is that it’s #1.

  3. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Good write up Mike. I wrote this last night. Similar to what you wrote here, but much shorter. LOL

    Tim Knight says:
    October 10, 2017 at 9:39 pm
    1. Get Ajayi going
    2. Make passing plays beyond 10 yards

    Defense keep thriving. Tough game this week.

    ST’s, we could use some help here. 🙂

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      It would be nice to see a big punt return or kick return

      A big ST play is due
      And we need it against the Falcons

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Yeah that’s what I’m saying. Some type of big play on STs that can change the game. Even a blocked punt or FG that sets us up for an easy score. Something.

  4. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim

    I agree, but like I said in this article, maybe we have to pass to set up the run. I did notice some 2 TE sets last week, and I did see Fasano and Gray out there, but we still couldn’t get it going. Maybe we need to open it up by actually completing some deeper passes, and then we’ll be able to find running room. I don’t know what to do, but we have to do something different, even if it’s just executing what we’ve been doing all along a lot better.

  5. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    “Like Lucilla said so well, “The mob is fickle brother”.
    LMAO — and been that way for over two thousand years.

    And that was one your best writes ever. I’m writing this one off as a loss before it starts though…..game day will be better no matter what after doing that.

  6. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Armando Salguero‏Verified account @ArmandoSalguero 4m4 minutes ago
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    Adam Gase says Jarvis Landry meeting with NFL later this month is a league matter. Not diving into that one.

  7. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Adam Beasley‏Verified account @AdamHBeasley 3m3 minutes ago
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    Gase said the three “hotheads of the offense are 14, 23 and me.” Says it’s not good when they all get fired up at the same time.

  8. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Armando Salguero‏Verified account @ArmandoSalguero 4m4 minutes ago
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    Jordan Phillips and Byron Maxwell will practice today, Adam Gase says.

  9. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Adam Beasley‏Verified account @AdamHBeasley 1m1 minute ago
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    Gase said he believes his players are on board with the new national anthem policy.

  10. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Armando Salguero‏Verified account @ArmandoSalguero 10s11 seconds ago
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    Adam Gase says Dolphins players in agreement on team’s national anthem (stand or be in the locker room) policy. (Should, they voted on it).

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Timmons looked really good last week. A lot of times, it’s hard to notice for me while I’m watching, but I saw him all over the place.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        All the LBs were swarming. The big difference this year has been we’re tackling much better throughout the defense.

  11. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Jahndoh30 says:
    October 10, 2017 at 10:52 pm
    M13,

    You planted a seed about Cutler’s arm. I always bristle when you guarantee things that can’t possibly be known, but I agree with your conclusion, there’s something wrong with his arm….
    ———–
    I thank you, Jahndoh. I’m using logic to arrive at my conclusion… whether it be his arm or something else that isn’t healthy (leg, torso, etc). Something is out of place with Cutler after seeing him chuck the rock with ease in the preseason.

    Just one thing… I believe I’ve only “guaranteed” two matters in the past: Pearl Thomas and David Amerson (<– jury is still out on him). I'm not the type to guarantee much being nothing in this life is guaranteed but for death and taxes.

    That said, I'm not guaranteeing I'm right about Cutler playing hurt… but it sure makes sense when you look at it from my point of view. Thanks for your feedback! I appreciate it.

  12. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Joe Schad‏Verified account @schadjoe 3m3 minutes ago
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    Jarvis Landry to meet with NFL about alleged domestic incident, per report http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2017/10/11/jarvis-landry-to-meet-with-nfl-about-alleged-domestic-incident-per-report/

  13. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Not such an O the football writer fan these days, but have to feel for him based on what he went through at one point.
    ————————-
    “That’s the response I’ve developed from trauma I’ve experienced in my life because of one particular individual, who terrorized me and my family for over a decade. He would drive his pickup truck through my lawn, ruining my grass with his oversized tires, and running over my mailbox every time I wrote about race.

    Like clockwork, if I wrote a story, blog or column about race the very next day my lawn would be ruined, my mailbox would be knocked over, and a nasty note that featured the use of the N-word would be left in the destruction.”

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-dolphins-kelly-column-20171011-story.html

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I see Omar is still up to race-baiting. If he’d experienced half the racism I’ve experienced, he’d have PTSD. Not cool that he’s ever had to go through his ordeal, but he shouldn’t be using that as a crutch to score political points with his agenda.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Didn’t change my mind that he was a diva, but still sad he went through that. Will note that such happening is also a price of being a public figure. Not like many Hollywood actors of all skin colors don’t end up with stalkers targeting them for various deranged reasons.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Agreed… sad that ANYBODY has to go through $#!t like that, man. But in many cases regarding Omar, he invites trouble with his political agenda. He and Miko Grimes are two peas in a pod.

        Don’t know if you knew this or not (and that’s when I stopped following Omar), but Omar was actually PRAISING Castro and communism after Kap wore his Castro T-shirt when he played us last year. Armando nearly went bonkers.

        Omar is truly LOST. I don’t know if he’s just ignorant or just indoctrinated, but Castro DESPISED the black race and slaughtered them like pigs.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      Anyone seen Home lately?

  14. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    That story is ridiculous. You know how easy it is to catch someone doing that? You know it’s coming……..so easy especially this day and age with all the technology.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I thought the same thing. For a decade?

    • herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

      It does seem if you knew it would as going to happen, you’d set up a camera. Maybe just me.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Whenever it was it was at a house he no longer lives at, and he has been writing for the SS for two decades. No doubt that two or three incidents might have turned into “terrorized for a decade though.”

    • sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

      That was my first thought when reading the quote but if you read the article he says he stopped it by reinforcing Tha mailbox with concrete. He eventually moved. Maybe there was other forms of harassment in the ten years. The article isn’t detailed enough to say.

  15. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Lol. You guys talk about cameras. My first thought was shotgun.

  16. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    If some one else told me that story I would basically be sympathetic

    But Omar, I kind of question his credibility on a lot of issues

  17. The day after election, I saw a MLK street sign deliberately plowed over by a black Ford pickup.
    these things DO happen, but I have no idea how a sports fan found Omar’s house, or if the story is true.

    Unless we want to see Ajayi, Landry , and Cutler driving NASCAR , lol Kidding! we need to all get past the lies and hate. .not kidding

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Did it damage the truck? Seems like a stupid thing to do. Street signs are metal and will usually damage the body of most trucks or cars

  18. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Given Harris’ contribution and playing time last week

    And when you factor in Tankersly and Godcheux

    And then factoring in expectations for McMillan in ’18

    The Dolphins draft class is looking good early
    If only Asiata was able to make an impact

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Taylor too. He’s done a nice job when he’s in there too.

    • drg's avatar drg says:

      Piggy, I wonder if Asiata isn’t mailing it in. He’s such a good kid. I wonder if football really matters to him though. I expected more out of him. Might be like Soliai and needs someone to light a fire under his ass.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        maybe

        I think you gotta give a rookie a little bit of time
        we may not get anything out of him in ’17 but we can afford to give him time to develop for now

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        He had flaws in his game coming out of college and the coaches have hinted he needs to clean up quite a few aspects of his game, but they also seem to think he has upside. I doubt he’s mailing it in.

  19. Piggy, It looked similar to this one but cheaper looking, and it had an old paint job, FL sun faded out black . Typical luxury truck for low rent area, lol. This one doesn’t have a 25 foot confederate flag pole on it either, most come with that standard in this area? Not sure, lol

  20. drg's avatar drg says:

    I thought Omar’s article was fine and had a good message at the end. The whole kneeling controversy has been twisted and manipulated by so many to fit their agenda that it hardly resembles what it once was.

    The problem with most social media is it creates an illusion of our society. One idiot says something and it gets relayed to the rest of the world as if that is the majority opinion. Foreigners purposely posting rhetoric and lies in hopes of disturbing the peace or manipulating to their advantage. Morons saying things just to get attention.

    Our “news” has devolved into those trying to take advantage of this under the guise of reporting or fighting it. Their only agenda is to build their own brand and make money. All of these news channels and SJWs only make things worse.

    Isn’t it remarkable that when we sit down face to face all of these differences suddenly disappear or aren’t nearly as dramatic as they once seemed? That’s the real tragedy is that for all the posturing and drama on social media, there is almost no conversation as to how we can fix the ills of society. If they were fixed then what would these people have to rage about?

    As for Omar, I have grown to enjoy him. He’s basically a football fan with better access to some of the players opinions, but at least he voices his opinions and isn’t afraid to put it out there. Haven’t met him, but he seems like a decent guy. Armando seems like a total dick. He has good connections inside the organization so he’s worth a follow. The other beat writers are good guys, but rarely do you get anything out of them that we don’t already know. Barry Jackson is probably my favorite for insight on the Dolphins.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Honestly I kind of hate them all
      but both Omar and Mando get on my nerves more than others…

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      “The whole kneeling controversy has been twisted and manipulated by so many to fit their agenda that it hardly resembles what it once was.”

      Well said — it is like football has become like some chosen spot for battle like Korea or Vietnam during the Cold War.

  21. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

  22. TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

    omar….lol…..I wonder if he got his racist cue from michael bennent….what a buffoon……poor Michael…..Vegas cops were wearing body cams….OOPS.

  23. TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

    herdfan says:
    October 11, 2017 at 1:30 pm
    It does seem if you knew it would as going to happen, you’d set up a camera. Maybe just me.

    nah……then he would have evidence to back up his bullshit…..who needs evidence?……just believe him, ok?……lol.

  24. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Timmons not AWOL from this list

  25. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Our LB situation looks a whole lot better now and it’s pretty crazy being that we lost our 2nd rd pick McMillan before we ever saw him play LB in even a PS game. Gotta give the FO credit for finding guys who can help us from all different avenues.

  26. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LOL @ Tim!

  27. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Without looking it up, can you guess who is left from the Jeff Ireland era that he drafted currently on the roster?

  28. D's avatar D says:

    The thing with the Omar story is sad if true, and i don’t deny it could be, i just don’t trust Omar with anything he writes or says. He plays race to his advantage, and has on numerous occasions. The other side of it to me is…….and how have you grown from that, and how have you reacted, how did you move the dial back in the right direction?… By becoming the exact thing you despised? By allowing hatred for an individual to spread into hatred for a race? You can condemn the actions of anything that was done wrong, but sympathy would more likely be found if you weren’t just as guilty of those same actions. Omar’s actions spell out what he wants, and its not unity, its not togetherness, not even a change, its revenge

    One last thing, lets say Omar was ….oh i don’t know, Cam Newton. Wouldn’t his comments made towards white receivers being inadequate, or questions he has thrown at Tannehill about starting out as a “white receiver”, be considered as unacceptable as what Cam said about it being “funny to hear women talk about routes”? Both are completely unacceptable behavior to use a persons gender or race as a disqualifier in them being able to adequately do their job. He’d be the first to call it racist if that shit was done to him and then he would write an article on how bad that kind of treatment he had to endure was. Pot, meet kettle.

  29. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Didn’t look, I promise. John Denney. I was just talking about him today, met a woman who’s son is the long snapper at Temple

  30. D's avatar D says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    October 11, 2017 at 2:57 pm

    Honestly I kind of hate them all
    but both Omar and Mando get on my nerves more than others…
    ———————————————
    I liked Omar until i started listening to Omar, specifically add his twitter feed. He is a foul obnoxious fellow who is extremely racially biased (at the very least, might be more if i knew if his hate for whites was real or just a publicity ploy). If you stick to just reading his articles, you can tolerate him and probably accept him for what DRG has come to accept him for, you listen any further and you realize this is not a good person, and its more than just egotism at play.

    Mando, can be extremely egotistical too, but i can tolerate his bullshit side a little more than Omar’s. I have seen him get down in the gutters with some of his twitter shit too, so its not all roses, but he doesn’t seem to insult the people who read him nearly on the level Omar does. Omar gets off on it. Another item thats probably the nail in the coffin for me is that he butters up to Miko, and she is a level of filth i never thought i would ever see proudly expressing their filthiness in public.

  31. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Does Misi count?

  32. D's avatar D says:

    Hmm, ok Pouncey for sure, Wake for sure, Jones for sure, and Tannehill if you count being on IR.

  33. D's avatar D says:

    Aikens, McCain and Fede were all after Ireland weren’t they?

  34. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Yes there is an issue with on our roster vs. still on our team. The answer is 4 and all the names have been established. 2010 Misi and Jones, 2011 Pouncey and 2012 Tannehill. Nobody is on our team from his last draft in 2013.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Yeah, that’s just pathetic. No other way to put it. We got very little value from his drafts. It’s a shame

      • D's avatar D says:

        Mike i think Vernon, Miller, Clay and Matthews were all pretty solid picks, we just retain them. He was no genius but the fact some of them aren’t here isn’t exactly on him.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Nobody from the 2013 draft is absurd. Not that long ago.

  35. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I still remember the conversation I had with Ireland when I convinced him to take a “limited” safety out of Georgia in the 5th round. Good stuff. Then he drafted a weak ass OL from Tennessee when I told him he was a punk, so I kicked him in th balls.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I thought you liked Thomas, just thought he went a bit early?

      • D's avatar D says:

        No i liked him, and i still stand by the UT Thomas would have been a great player, too bad we got the i like pot and Cheetos more than playing football Thomas.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Are you Randy? LOL

      • D's avatar D says:

        I didn’t like Turner though. I got to watch him at Senior Bowl and while all you guys were cheering for him i was one of the few saying it wasn’t a good pick. You wins some, you lose some. Im both sad i was wrong and wish i hadnt been wrong on both those.

      • D's avatar D says:

        No i was saying i think it was me you remember liking him…

    • TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

      THAT’S exactly how you can make a difference!……actions that disrespect the national anthem, it’s flag, and those that served, fought and/or died for America just divides….not helps…..just my (and most Americans) opinion.

  36. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    D, gotcha! I definitely had discussions with Randy about Thomas and although he was lukewarm about him I didn’t think he was against him. I think he thought he was a drafted a round too early.

  37. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    You would think when you draft a QB in 2012 you would then follow that up with some support for him in the next draft in 2013. To not hit on any of them with 9 picks and 4 in the top 3 rounds is horrible. Yet we went defense with 3 out of 4.

    • D's avatar D says:

      We needed CB’s desperately that draft, he just picked two stinkers.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        True, but he also surrounded Tannehill with backup level WRs in 2012 as a rookie and didn’t add any in 2013. He also put a mishmash of an OL together in 2013. In hindsight it was an awful job in just two years, stemming from the 2011 three ring circus/round table era with Ross, Ireland and Sparano after courting Jim Harbaugh.

        I’m happy the current FO regime does recognize weaknesses in the team and tries to address it even when the prime options are dried up. 12-8 with a playoff game while turning over half the roster in 1+ years. This season hasn’t been ideal but we’re 2-2. I think our FO is a big part of it. We have a lot of talent on this team. The chemistry on offense is another thing.

    • D's avatar D says:

      I actually think he should have done more from the get go, like same year draft. They did try to get him some protection in that draft but Mr Mental Breakdowns just didnt pan out lol. hen you had Eggshells they tried to get him as an offensive target. They got him a Rb to pair with, in Miller. I do think they “tried” to help him out, but one major part of that failed, being Martin.

      You wanna make yourself depressed just go look at how many people who have gone to a pro-bowl were drafted that same round after him. Alshon Jefferey is one of them and he would have been a really nice target for Tanny. Pretty sure we would have also been happy to have had Bobby Wagner instead too, or Levonte David, or Zack Brown.

  38. D's avatar D says:

    I think Ireland can truly be judged by one pick if you want to hang that on him. I personally cant hang the Jordan pick on him but thats about all you need to call that whole draft class a fail. I do also think he missed on his 2nd’s and 3rd’s, but cleaned up ok with the 4th’s on. I dont think you can put those 4th’s on, as his failures in why they arent here. Gills is still playing as a starter, Sims is as well, Jenkins probably would still be here if he could stay healthy. Sturgis didn’t get off to a good start, but he’s still kicking in the NFL. Still the ones you usually are held accountable for are your 1’s-3rd’s those are supposed to pan out. So yeah i think he can be judged for that draft, but i dont think you can say none of his picks still being here is because he picked nothing but duds.

  39. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Top

    Yeah, you think so? Think there’s a shot in hell Goodell does that WITHOUT the protests?

    • D's avatar D says:

      Thats probably one of the best points, or at least questions to ask yourself. Do you think things would have happened without them.

      I do think with different leadership that would have gone down better. I can only speulate as to the success had it been done differently though. I will say that the NFL gets behind things all the time and they didn’t take kneeling during the anthem to accomplish it, so its definitely possible. I think though, in this circumstance was probably more effective to continue down that path than to shut it down and then find another way to start over. I don’t think people would listen if that had happened.

      You judge most things by the place where you end up. If this ends up in a positive place, with plenty of room for mended feelings, then obviously its a win, people who continue to protest after others are taking more productive avenues are going to get exposed. This is how this thing ends, and ends in a good place with both sides getting what they want.

  40. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Tim,
    Nope. Everybody kept saying he could get to the second level, so he was good. I said…yeah, but he’s weak as hell. I also thought almost every pick that year was a round or two too high. I didn’t like Turner either…had some inside info on him from a buddy of mine who played at NDSU and stayed close to that staff/program, and I was pretty sure he’d never be an NFL tackle. Wasn’t sure about him at guard.

  41. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Does anyone else think the Dolphins should honor Forrester this Sunday by wearing cocaine white tassels on their titties?

  42. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Here are the interviews with the “professional” win Forrester

  43. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

  44. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

  45. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    D

    The NFL can certainly be very charitable, but I’ve never heard of them taking up a cause like this. If all of you can be honest with yourselves, you have to know that the player protests drove Goodell to do this, especially since they’re now telling the players to cease the protests. In that regard, at least in my view, the protests did a good thing, because the ball is rolling, and something is happening.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Revenue, not principles.

      If something good comes out of it great. I doubt it on any large scale. It will fade and most involved will do nothing like Stills and M. Thomas are doing at the heart of the matter. It’s a fad for a lot of people. Just like with politicians. Move onto the next thing that overtakes everyone’s mind.

      I barely hear about ISIS anymore. I find that strange. Did we annihilate them?

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        It’s just awareness Tim
        That’s what protests are designed to do for the most part

        Time will tell whether laws or social behavior changes
        It’s never directly traceable

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I think you are spot on

      The protests actually worked

      It’s not made to last forever

      I would like to see the players voluntarily stop winot being told
      I think they made he point they wanted to

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        After all the Women’s Marches, what changed? Harvey Weinstein! I don’t think protests and marches create awareness. Most people are already aware of it at their fingertips. People are now dishonest over their agenda on a very large scale because now the public, “We the People”, are a part of world media. We have a voice now we’ve never had before. Nobody knows how to deal with it. LOL

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        Actually Weinstein is a great example of how things change. His behavior for decades was tolerated and may have been the norm. It’s not anymore. Awareness and empowerment have made Weinstein go from mogul to pariah and maybe even to a criminal

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Tim

        Women marched for the right to vote
        And eventually they were able to vote

        Harvey Weinstein is one man
        You don’t protest to change one man’s behavior
        There will always be shitty people

        The laws he is being sued for are from the civil rights act of 64

        The civil right act of 64 is a direct results of civil rights protests

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      Not the protests- the President

      Drove him to do it, just sayin

  46. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Typical ESPN to even talk to her. I lost a lot of respect for Lebitard today. That was bush league.

  47. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Lol Lebitard with a straight face tried to say NFL ratings and sales are down because of people protesting Kaepernick not being in the league. Get a clue!

  48. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Can we move on from the Chris Foerster saga? Who cares, he fucked up and he’s gone. Trying to paint a darker cloud over the org is typical of the So. Fla media. The team has 12 more games to play. Can we focus on all those guys who have to prepare for those games as opposed to one coach ruining his career with stupidity?

  49. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    Dirty laundry.

  50. TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

    lesson to be learned about the 1st amendment ….yes, NFL players have the right to free speech (apparently)……but free speech always has consequences…….what players say/do represent their team and league…….which may offend other Americans that ALSO have free speech to express their opinions……or simply NOT support (financially) the players, teams and league…..so, whatever your opinion is on the matter….the “money” WILL eventually be the deciding factor…anyone want to bet?

  51. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Son

    Then the President was forced to do it because of the protests. Either way, it worked, and that’s all that matters

    • TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

      personally I don’t give a rats ass who wins the pissing contest or claims victory….as long as the disrespect ENDS,

      • Its GREAT You want the disrespect to end! Btw his name is Colin Kaepernick, saying Kraperdick isn’t respectful
        Respect isn’t a one way street, that’s dictatorship

        For an authoritarian leader to call out American citizens sons of bitches that should be fired, asking for respect seems stupid and hypocritical.
        Obama, a real president, would have never blackmailed , browbeat, and Force private employers to do what he wants.
        I thought Your president was better than Obama?
        Even rush Limbaugh says it’s wrong for pres to do this to priv business, and he’s a major trump supporter. But he at least sees when Trump fucks up, and doesn’t give him a forever hall pass

  52. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Ken, if more people were honest, Hollywood would be exposed on such a massive level, the NFL stuff going on would be a side story. We’ve heard these stories before haven’t we? They swept that shit under the rug as soon as they could. A lot of bad stuff happens that wealthy and powerful people can snuff out.

  53. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Ken
    I think your point is spot on
    Weinstein being exposed is publicly is going to have a substantial effect on the norms of that industry

  54. Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

    I have so much respect for Marie Tillman. Who stood up to the Trump politicizing her late husbands service:

    “Pat’s service, along with that of every man and woman’s service, should never be politicized in a way that divides us. We are too great of a country for that.”

    “Those that serve fight for the American ideals of freedom, justice and democracy, they and their families know the cost of that fight. I know the very personal costs in a way I feel acutely every day. The very action of self expression and the freedom to speak from one’s heart — no matter those views — is what Pat and so many other Americans have given their lives for. Even if they didn’t always agree with those views.”

    • TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

      agree…believe it or not.

      • Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

        I believe it. We’re different in a lot of ways Top, but I believe we’re both patriots and I would love to have a cup of coffee with you sometime and talk, with an open mind about some of our differences. I think the failure to talk to people with different views then our own is in part the source of the division we feel so acutely in the US today.

  55. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Nationals pitcher goggles reminiscent of Chris Sabo.

    Only bail bond will get that

  56. Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

    Tim,
    I couldn’t disagree with you more about whether protests and marches bring change. Almost every meaningful change in our countries history was brought about by protesters exercising their 1st amendment rights.

    Maybe they don’t ALL work, but the forefathers knew the power of that freedom of expression (and assembly don’t forget) or they wouldn’t have protected it in the first place.

  57. Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

    Ok, I did two non football posts today. All done!

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      Come on with the beer you make you can go off topic all you want.

      Hope your safe from the fires

      • Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

        Thanks Son, they are south and north of here. I have friends in Santa Rosa I’m worried about though. 😦

  58. Jahndoh30's avatar Jahndoh30 says:

    Ok, this is barely a football post. When you’re a parent and you want to protect your child from head injury and CTE risks, you push them towards other sports, swimming, tennis, etc…right?

    Spent last night in the ER while my 13 year old daughter was being held for observation for her concussion, sustained at…..wait for it…..swim practice.

    She was turning next to another kid and their heads collided. She was feeling woozy in the car on the way home and vomited on our driveway as she got out of the car. Proceeded to vomit non-stop for the next hour.

    She’s gonna be alright, at home resting, but….wow! Swimming????

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      Holy crap wow so glad she’ll be ok
      Scary stuff

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      Glad to hear she is going to be alright. Bottom line is there are few sports that have no risk of injury. While concussions may not be common in swimming you are still exerting yourself, pushing your limits and competing against someone else. There is no telling what injuries you can get. It’s part of the risk of competitive sports but there is great benefits that come from them too

    • TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

      I sure hope it wasn’t one of those “get to the end and go under spin moves” …..I busted my shit trying that as a kid…..and hopes to a speedy recovery.

  59. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, I said after the Women’s Marches recently. What has changed? We can go back in history for a lot of things that forced major changes. I’m saying what has changed recently because of any protest or march? People disagreeing more and more? That’s what I see. Remember we’re now either blue or red, no in-between. What a close-minded way to think.

    Every report we hear about anything these days is slanted with a political agenda. It’s absurd.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Tim
      I think you are being short sighted in saying what has changed
      I definately think the womens March changed the way many people think

      I knew a lot of woman who never would have participated in an event like that until they partipsted in that one and now they would do it again

      The cultural effects however are hard to measure. Time will tell.

      If you need something so immediate and direct to measure change think about how much $ was raised with that many people gathered

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I’m not saying it’s a bad thing. I just don’t see the results. If I went fishing and no fish were biting, my view on that would be that no fish are biting. I don’t see what has changed? Tell me, I’d love to hear it.

        Women still think it’s a man’s world and sexual harassment is rampant. I see them say it everyday. Not being a part of that fucked up way of thinking, am I supposed to think I see something I don’t?

  60. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Jahn, see my reply to Piggy above. I explained how I feel. You don’t have to agree, I may be right, I may be wrong. I’m just stating what I see. I’ve seen extreme points of view never materialize. I guess I’m guarded about some things. 🙂

    When you show me the results, I’m totally open to the facts of change based on recent protests, rallies or marches. I just don’t see it. Just another fad. What changed?

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      Change doesn’t happen overnight but it does happen and protests are often times part of the process.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        True, but this is already on the books. It’s on individuals, not society or the values of the country. Most of us get along. Some can’t deal with change and different looking people. That’s on them. What needs to change for the majority of us?

  61. I see football pundits everywhere saying Dolphins have to get Moore out there starting. The common theme seems to be that Moore played better last year than Cutler, for GASE.
    I can’t argue that, Moore was a Dolphin last year, and did better than Cutler for the season.

    So should We start Moore now? Really tough call for us, but getting it right could save our season, getting it wrong ,,,,

  62. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Top

    I’m just as glad that something that something positive came of the protests as you are that they’re over. I guess we’re both pleased, and nothing wrong with that. I was never being spiteful about this whole thing, I was just hoping maybe they can get the ball rolling in a positive fashion, and looks like that’s happening. I’m sure some NFL players that kneeled care less than I do, but there sure are some who care a great deal more. I’m happy for those people.

  63. I think many of the players are super pissed off about the presidential meddling. They will rebel, this issue is far from over IMO
    There were better ways to handle this instead of cursing the players out and threatening their careers. The fourth grade bully approach got the job done, sorta half ass, but there is no way to win when a president is overstepping his bounds.
    We need the 45 to work with congress and get some good legislation passed, he wasn’t elected commissioner of the NFL.
    This is prevalent at every level, people can’t do their own jobs, so they do other people’s jobs, SMH

  64. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Jahn, wishing your daughter well.

  65. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I must have missed it. Did something change?

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Keep posting and you will see a page turn

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I’ve looked at the heavens wondering what I missed. I got no answer. Just like the people who were involved in the Vegas shootings after God Bless America was sung. I guess that didn’t work either. When do we stop with things that will never be the answer?

  66. TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

    “Jahndoh30 says:
    October 11, 2017 at 8:16 pm
    I believe it. We’re different in a lot of ways Top, but I believe we’re both patriots”

    my oath to defend the constitution was life time for me…..I totally get the 1st amendment, burning the American flag can make my blood boil, but I usually say nothing……i just ignore the retards….but this “NFL sanctioned” disrespect is even harder for me…..because before that, I lived for DOLPINS sundays…..I would have hoped that the owners / commish would have had more sense than to let this get so far…….I would have expected their greed to come into play…..shit, the NFL doesn’t give a shit about players….well, at least not more than money…..they have rules they enforce for not wearing the same sock or cleats…..or what about enforcing their freedom of expression during their end zone antics?…..i’ll have to research this, but I seen a copy of the NFL guideline stating the standard during the national anthem…..(paraphrasing) players will stand along sideline at attention with helmet under left arm……i’ll see if I can find a copy…..but if so, why weren’t the enforcing a rule they already have?

  67. Saw where Jahns daughter got a head injury. Sorry to hear, damn. I’m sure Your on top of it Jahn, well wishes for her health, and speedy recovery! 😀

  68. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    All this Kneeling has seemed to lost it’s purpose, at first kapernick was kneeling due to social in justice and a few others joined in, since trump asked the players to stand it has changed to more about being defiant as players who were standing before were now kneeling. more of a revenge factor against trump.
    The end to this is certain, Trump is right and all those players who took a knee will eventually stand in the near future.
    the financial result of all this hasn’t hit home yet for the teams and players but you can bet it will in the near future. the consequences could be devastating to the league.
    what happens when the Salary cap plummets due to poor TV ratings.
    what happens to teams who have star players with guaranteed contracts that they are forced to pay that max out their cap and they don’t have room for other players.

    it could get ugly down the road

    • It WILL get ugly down the road, no doubt the players loathe the Dictator ruler overstepping his bounds, cursing them out, and threatening their careers.
      Act and react, both sides retaliate, end game is shit.

      the thin skinned narcissist will always ump the ante till he gets his revenge on the NFL by destroying it

    • TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

      OROB…..hater hate….that’s all they know…….just sayin

  69. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Jahn,
    Glad your little girl is okay. Take it from an old, often concussed and confused curmudgeon, go all overly parenty and adult on her and protect her head! Now that she’s had one….more are bad…even minor ones. You sound like an awesome parent, so I’m sure you’re all over it.

  70. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Free speech doesn’t have consequences…hence free speech

  71. TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

    well……here’s the official NFL rules……I don’t have time to read the entire thing to see if there is a rule or not on the books

    Click to access 2017-playing-rules.pdf

  72. Freedom of the press is under attack as well. The Right to a free press is constitutional, and it’s a vital part of our democratic system of government.

    Don’t like press? Fake news? Yea of course they need to be perfect, ev n though we aren’t, lol

    But answer this, How many countries, that don’t have a free press, have free people?
    I came up with Zero. Free press has to be fought for, just like free speech. It keeps the dictators in check

  73. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    Jahn glad to hear your daughter is going to be ok. Nothing worse than having them sick or hurt. I know just what you mean about steering them toward ‘safer’ sports. Didn’t work in my case with my daughter. She’s totally obsessed with horses and jumping is her thing. It makes me queasy every single time. She gets thrown off, gets up and is at it again.

    And somehow I’ve graduated from making Halloween costumes for my kids to making one for a horse. She’s going to be a dragon. I have to be nuts to do this stuff. Whatever makes your kids happy,right?

  74. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Tim and Randy
    The answers are there for you if you look

    The women’s march raised over 2 millions dollars
    That $ is spread to many different charities and organizations (some of them hated by some of the posters here)
    Everything from amenesty international, unions, groups that provide safe houses to domestic violence victims, and groups that test rape kits

    Imagine if you attended
    And donated to an ornagization that sheltered a woman who was running from an abusive husband and had nowhere to go but for that organizations existence which is dependent on donations

    Would you say “what has changed” then knowing that going to that event caused you to donate money to a charity you didn’t know about which gave a woman a bed for a night using your money?

    You can take the gun out of your mouths guys
    Stop being so cynical
    There are a lot of ways you can affect the world in a positive way

    • TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

      what became of that million man march?…….other than 138 people missing work that day…..DUDE, TOTAL JOKE !

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Money was raised? No way!!! What changed again?

      You do know this is a nature issue right, how dominant males view females despite laws? Just like gun laws or people doing drugs. People gravitate to what they desire even outside of moral and legal laws. We’re not as evolved as even some of the self-professed intellectuals claim to be. Oh My! Humans revolve around wealth – just a new degree of hunting and gathering.

      People still believe that there is a dominant male, old man of wisdom overseeing everything they do somewhere in the sky/heavens. They call him Our Father or God or G_d, etc. When do humans address this seriously?

      Oh right can’t go there, it’s offensive. See how that works?

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Tim

        If you raise money and you provide a bed in the context I said – isn’t that enough for you?

        If your standard is that a march better result in utopia instantly, you have way too high of a threshold

        I would gladly participate in an event like that if I helped one person in need
        Why is that not enough?

  75. TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

    sb7mvp…….dude, are you saying jemele hill did NOT get suspended from espn?…….denial or you don’t follow?

  76. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    David, who was the last honest and factual president?

  77. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Last, most honest Prez? Reagan.

  78. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Piggy,
    I’m confused. I actually meant…did something change? What happened?

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t know if you were responding to Tim in i’s conversation about
      Change as a result of protests

      If not, just disregard

  79. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    We’re gonna win Sunday 🐬

  80. I’m wrong? Ok, then someone explain how Trumps failures at healthcare, are Better than ACA, that actually IS healthcare?

  81. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    When it’s all said and done Suh will be your DPOY

  82. I don’t have enough research showing me that Trumps failures at repeal and replace, are far better insurance than ACA was. Someone can explain or send a link for that,
    Here is Your chance to prove that Trump gave us far better insurance than Obama 😎

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      It has been explained to you repeatedly, dumbass. In small words at time. You are simply…simple. Unable to grasp the concept.

      • Excuses and finger pointing, isn’t an answer, nor insurance.

        The question is, explain how Trumps health care failings insurance, is better than ACA was, ya know, Obamacare?

      • TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

        does he NOT understand how it works?….damn, he can’t sign it into law UNTIL it passes through congress and lands on his desk……he’s not “Obama the incompetent” and tries to circumvent the constitution at every turn….lol.

      • I understand what You are saying Top, but it also proves that I was correct, and Phel calling me out for being wrong, was incorrect, lol
        So it’s settled here IMO,
        ACA was far better than Trumps failure to repeal and replace, that’s a fact we all
        should understand IMO

  83. TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

    Tim Knight says:
    October 11, 2017 at 9:31 pm
    Freedom of speech doesn’t have consequences? It most certainly does. People don’t realize the difference between business and national rights

    most people don’t understand the 1st amendment is freedom against the government….and yes, employers are allowed to control how employees represent them.

  84. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Piggy I think posted on of our defensive plays and they doubled Suh and he stood both of them up.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      He’s killing it this year

      But if his numbers don’t reflect big sacks he might. It get the respect he needs for DPOY

      I think he has 2 sacks this year

      If he finishes with 8-10 sacks and we are the number 1 run defense…well maybe

      • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

        Forced fumbles would propel him as well as the sacks. There’s a lot of season left.

  85. Phel, when I pointed out that Obamacare insurance, is real insurance, and trump repeal and replace failed, You said I was wrong.

    Ok, if I’m wrong, then explain how Trumps failures are far better than ACA was?

    If You can’t answer,,, just admit so

  86. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Technically Phish it’s not labor law it’s employment law (bc it would be a sexual discrimination suit)

    But you get the idea

    My point is what an Employer can do does not end with th 1st amendment
    It’s kind of a slippery slope

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      And the fact that the law can limit discriminatory speech is an exception to the 1st amendment

      If the employment law (its the civil rights ights act of 64) was found invalid under the 1st amendment, it would be stricken

      But generally the idea that the 1st amendment protections does not apply to the private sector is correct

      The lawyers who post here (ken, stranger and I) have all mentioned this a million tims over – so it’s correct

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Also I’m not sure an employer can say “less cleavage” believe it or not

  87. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    son,
    Everything is different now……

  88. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Piggy,
    No, I wasn’t responding to Tim. I figured it out though. Lol

  89. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    David:
    While my personal politics are probably closer to yours than others on here but we are not debating the ACA vs the AHA. This is a football blog. You are free to post as you like but the health care is going pretty far afield of our bailiwick here

  90. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Suh is here, everything is different now

  91. Phel, I understand everything about insurance, trust me because it’s something we all need.
    What I don’t understand is ,
    what I said was correct, ACA was better,
    but You called me out, said I was not correct, when I was

  92. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Pigs – An employer couldn’t (probably) say “less cleavage” but they can set dress codes.

  93. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    pheloniusphish says:
    October 11, 2017 at 9:48 pm (Edit)
    And Tankersley the DROY.
    Reply
    son of a son of a shula says:
    October 11, 2017 at 9:51 pm (Edit)
    He looks good. I love that Clemson defense they’ve been producing a lot of good NFL talent.

    *****
    I’m sure I mentioned tankersly while he was at Clemson

    I had a man crush on the wrong cb I guess (McKenzie Alexander)
    But I know I said good things about Tankersly on this blog in his Clemson days ..I think

  94. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Son, Suh or any DT will have to do something flashy (sacks, fumbles, interceptions) to get DPOY.

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      Yeah it’s a tough one one for a DT. It would have to be cumulative and full of flash on a team making serious noise.

  95. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Piggy’s office dress code: More cleavage and no pants

  96. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Piggs today I learned that there is an annual marathon in Cincinnati called the “Flying Pig Run”

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I knew about it

      Some one back in the SS asked me about Cincinnati
      And I looked it up

      It’s actually a big marathon
      They have a ton of tshirt, mugs and the woks

      I’m sure 1 or 2 of my Avis are from their merchandise or logos

  97. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    He saying how great the insurance is right?
    Then he said he pays cash at the doc.

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