The Miami Dolphins, fresh off a great defensive performance against the Tennessee Titans at home at Hard Rock Stadium, now have to travel to play one of the NFL’s best offensive teams, a team fresh off a BYE week. The Falcons have scored 104 points so far this season in 4 games, which is exactly 63 points more than the Dolphins have scored. Doing some quick math in my head, the Falcons are averaging 26 points per game, while the Dolphins are averaging just better than 10 points per game. See a problem?
HC Adam Gase insists he is not changing from current starter Jay Cutler to backup QB Matt Moore. Some people are really upset about this, while some proclaim Cutlers arm is damaged, or his brain is shell shocked, and he can’t stand in the pocket because he’s afraid to take a hit, and despite all that, Gase stands behind Cutler as his starter. I know we’re so used to failure here in MIA, that even Gase the Great is now under tremendous scrutiny! What happened to “Trust in Gase’? Like Lucilla said so well, “The mob is fickle brother”. How true! Now all of a sudden we all know better than Gase, the guy who is with this team nearly 24/7, the one who is getting paid the big bucks to guide this team back to the playoffs, the one whose job security is on the line? Maybe we should step back and let Gase handle the situation. Do we really think Gase is clueless all of a sudden? I truly doubt he is.
This Sunday’s game provides quite a challenge, the rested Falcons have a multidimensional offense, with 2 talented RB’s who can both run and catch extremely well, Devonta Freeman and Tevin Coleman. Freeman has 285 yards rushing, while his backfield mate Tevin Coleman has just 181 yards rushing. They flip flop though on receiving yards, with Coleman putting up 153 yards receiving on 13 receptions, and Freeman with only 70 on 9 receptions. Both of these backs have around 350 yards of total offense, so no team gets a break with either of them on the field. That’s not all the Falcons offer on offense, far from it. The Falcons have one of the premier receivers in the NFL in Julio Jones. Jones has been hobbled by injuries this season, a lower leg injury early, a back injury, and most recently in Game 4 against the Bills before the BYE, a hip flexor injury. He has been limited to only 19 receptions for 295 yards, no TD’s, a very pedestrian start for the season. The BYE week should have allowed him to heal some, so we’ll see what Julio Jones can do against Xavien Howard and Cordrea Tankersley.
The Falcons defense is nothing special this season, although last season they were pretty good. They have excellent team speed, with a speedy group of LB’s that fly to the football, with Vic Beasley, Deion Jones and De’Vondre Campbell. The Falcons also have 2 of the better NFL CB’s, Des Trufant and Robert Alford. Patrolling the secondary is S Keanu Neal, who forced 5 fumbles last season, along with S Ricardo Allen. The front 4 are average, except DT Dontari Poe. Brooks Reed and Courtney Upshaw are the ends, with Dontari Poe and Grady Jarrett as the DT’s. Tak McKinley is on the depth chart at DE, a guy I liked for the Dolphins.
The way the Dolphins defense played last week, I think the defense can do enough to keep us in this game, but something has to get this offense going or we will be out of this one by halftime. Devante Parker will likely be a game time decision with his ankle injury, so that means either Jakeem Grant or Leonte Carroo, or some combination of the 2, would replace him. Parker brought so much promise in the preseason, a guy ready to make that leap to elite status, yet a bewildered offense led by Jay Cutler hasn’t allowed that to come to fruition. Gase has to find a way for this offense to get on track. Obviously getting the run game going would help, but maybe we have to get the passing game going to get the run game going. Maybe we have to try and throw the ball deeper than 10 yards past the LOS, and challenge opposing defenses. Why we haven’t done so is a combination of things. Plays are breaking down too quickly due to the offensive line not holding up their part, QB Jay Cutler is flustered too quickly as soon as he either senses or actually sees pressure, and it also seems none of the receivers are playing with any urgency and are fighting to get open. This has to change, or we will be 2-3 after this week.
I still Trust in Gase. We Dolphins fans are used to bailing on our coaches, mostly because they deserved it, but I don’t think Gase deserves that quite yet. So despite all the FU doctors, QB gurus, OC’s etc, maybe we should give Gase a chance to turn the offense around, just like he did last year, at 1-4. How bout it you stubborn SOB’s, can you do it? Can you be a loyal fan to the coach who brought us to the playoffs last season? Will you kneel when Gase runs through the tunnel and on to the field? Will that be disrespectful if you do? I guess that’s all in the individual eye of the beholder . . .
GO DOLPHINS! Zero in!
Finsmob Unleashed 
BTW Phel I have ACA papers on my desk explaining everything in minute detail. I don’t require any explanation from You in addition to what I Have, but thanks for being a dick about it assuming incorrectly that I don’t understand., lol SMH
I hope you don’t imagine you are the first ever to call me a dick.
People still believe that there is a dominant male, old man of wisdom overseeing everything they do somewhere in the sky/heavens. They call him Our Father or God or G_d, etc. When do humans address this seriously?
Oh right can’t go there, it’s offensive. See how that works?
Nobody wants to touch this and that’s the problem. Many people say society is failing because of the breakdown of the two parent dynamic and a Godless society. I say it’s because we’re forced into believing that is the answer.
God has a really bad batting average but he/she is still thought of as perfect. Based on what? So if someone believes in something else it’s blasphemy. Still no takers? If God is so supreme, why is he/she so distant and non-loving and involved? Oh right, he/she works in mysterious ways. Sorry, not buying that anymore. Is that opinion okay or is that just another heretic example to make you feel good about your view and who needs to be punished? The typical human response.
Can anyone provide proof of God? Why is it so mysterious? You would think a God would be well established, no?
That’s complex certainly I think you find what you are looking for.
Not to sound all Forrest Gump on ya
I thought David was going far afield with healthcare….
Lol…we’re off the chain tonight.
Tim got a hold of something good. Lol
We’ve maintained harmony here because no one is calling someone else “a dick”.
Ok 👌
Yes please use Deushe instead of dick and everything will be alright
I’m personally comfortable with either.
Or DB9
you can call me anything you want…..just don’t call me late for dinner…lol.
Top, you spelled Dolphins wrong in your mantra above. I was just messing with you by putting J E T E like the guy who spelled it wrong on stage at the draft.
You said Dolpins sorry it stood out to me.
Spelling Nazi!
damn…I didn’t even notice……i’m not the best typist….lol.
Typical responses and no answers. I figured as much. God is good, whatever that means. Then we go back to what’s happening in the world and shake our heads. Don’t worry, God will take care of it. It’s been a long time tested theory and belief and the results are in. Perfect score, right?
Yeah I’m David Part II. Easy to say, tougher to live with the reality. Oh my, God doesn’t exist the way we think he/she does. Just wondering, is God male or female?
Depends. Everyone has their personal God. For some it’s a mystic entity, for others it’s money, and for some it’s a lack of faith and belief.
Right, when should God be a part of our human existence when it pertains to laws? The only mystical thing that is allowed in human culture is the existence of some God. All other things are viewed as magic and illusion. But God is real. Really?
Once again, I understand why people want to feel this way and have faith, but what if it isn’t true? How do we go from there?
I’m an atheist Tim
That’s a start. It’s almost impossible to not be that in 2017.
Sorry, when I asked God to let me speak to my grandmother who passed in 1973 and got no answer, I knew it wasn’t what everyone was saying. Why would God neglect me with that simple request? Because he/she doesn’t exist. Yet we still make policy based on this mysterious existence. Sorry, I have a problem with that. Maybe God gave that to me. If so, then what, if not, then what?
Enough…I bid you adieu.
night bro
Wow.. catching up on all these posts wants to make me rethink my beliefs and life …. NOT !!
Trump: The market went up so I got rid of the national debt.
LMAO at Wharton College economics, SMH
Peace everyone, We need it! g,nite! 😎
https://mobile.twitter.com/joshtpm/status/918296242660302848?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Ah……Go Phins?
These conversations leaves me begging for chemtrails!
Speaking of chemtrails, I cant believe this foerster coach is a full blown coke head and still able to maintain a job like that. he had coke in his desk at davie headquarters!
This woman said other dolphins staff/players were involved! Gase responded to that accusation denying it.
Real life is stranger than Fiction!
OK KIDDIES!! — UP and at ’em!!
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AFTER Sunday’s “win” over Tennessee, Young Stanger, your’s truly, and most other observers of the Miami team thought the Fins had NO CHANCE against the Falcons this coming Sunday in Atlanta. As a result, the betting line, which opened with the ATL favored by 9 has ballooned to 12 POINTS per this morning’s fish wrap!!
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In the words of Lee Corso, “NOT so fast, my friend!” Last year, Atlanta was only 3-5 vs. the spread at home (despite getting to the Super Bowl). This year, they’re 1-1, meaning they’ve only beat the spread 4 out of their last 10 home games. You say, “Ya’, but the Falcons are coming offf a “BYE” week!” Well, in this franchise’s history, they are 10-12-1 ATS coming off a bye week. Add the fact that Julio Jones is all banged up and you begin to ask yourself,”How big must the spread be for Miami to be the better option?” My answer to that question is “12 points.” I believe there’s LESS than a 50/50 chance that Atlanta wins by 13 or more in this game.
A whole group of factors lead me to believe Miami can make this game close. #1 among those considerations is the performance of Miami’s “D” under horrible circumstances (Little or no help from the “O”). I won’t go into my other reasons, but suffice it to say that I believe MIAMI CAN COVER A 12-POINT SPREAD!
HOWIE/HERD — HOWIE/HERD — HOWIE/HERD
24-13 ATL Fins cover the 12 points; ALSO, take the “UNDER” in the over/under, now 47 points.
Pollution . . .
Tim
To your 11:28PM post, is it possible God was busy with other business when you asked him? It’s not like a google search and you always get instant results. I’m not trying to talk to you into believing again, but I don’t think that’s a fair reason to stop. I would have to think there was something else that contributed to you not believing in God.
This is part of a thread from Kenny Stills
Amen! Great job Kenny! That’s what I’m talking about
Stills gets it.
Phelon
Stills definitely gets it. There are others that get it too, and I personally root for those people, and their cause
As long as their cause is fostering communications, mutual understanding, and education rather than blaming racism and “social injustice” for the consequences of criminal actions, I support them too.
I don’t support blaming others (cops, race, etc.) when some dumbass thug pays the price for their own stupidity. I don’t support blaming others for not accepting the antisocial, violent, misanthropic, criminal glorifying culture that you have fostered. I don’t support rioting and looting over said thugs demise. I don’t support terrorist organizations like BLM and Antifa using violence and intimidation to deprive others of their rights. I don’t support hating America by people who would not survive without it.
I agree with that 100%. I got on board with what they were doing when I read that Stills, along with Tony Dungy and others had meetings with Police officials as well as community leaders. I made that clear several times. That is positive work they’re doing, even though as I mentioned, there are those that are either just along for the ride, or doing it for the wrong reasons. I stand behind the ones that are making good things happen.
Son, catching up on yesterday. Sabo goggles, LOL
Come on Cubbies!
Son, think the Reds should unload Votto and his quarter of a billion dollar contract so they can afford some other good players?
I’ll take Votto in a second, but the Wilpon’s won’t lay out the $$$
I wonder if Timmons had anything to do with that escapade in LA? it would explain his strange behavior
so far as far as I know the only thing that happened in LA is that Foerster called an escort to do cocaine off of. I don’t know that anyone else was involved – and that’s not what that woman said in the interview with Lebetard.
However, I will say this: Timmons goes awol in LA and then Foerrster calling escorts to do cocaine off of sounds like a disaster of a trip. That’s a lot of weirdness for one team trip
We get Wheel of Fortune but Japan gets this
https://twitter.com/otxku/status/917859325925830661
Yeah, but we had Vanna White Chocolate in her heyday!
And Vanna’s subtle response to it was…..
And we thought it was bad in Washington….
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“The Boy Scouts’ house is on fire. Instead of addressing systemic issues of continuing sexual assault, financial mismanagement and deficient programming, BSA’s senior management wants to add an accelerant to the house fire by recruiting girls.”
— Girl Scouts, in an official statement on the Boy Scouts decision to accept female scouts.
Good job!
If DeVante Parker cannot play Sunday because of an ankle injury, it appears snaps might be split between Jakeem Grant and Leonte Carroo. Parker couldn’t practice Wednesday.
When Parker left after just three plays last Sunday, the Dolphins gave 33 snaps to Grant and just four to Carroo.
“Looking back, I wish I would have mixed them both in a little more,” Adam Gase said Thursday. “I was trying to fix a lot of formations. I didn’t want to mess Kenny [Stills] up either. We felt Jakeem gave us a good a chance as Carroo – probably should have mixed [Carroo] in a little more.”
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article178465506.html#storylink=cpy
This is the week that Miami’s offense clicks and the defense locks down a top 5 reputation.
Howie/Herd:
27-14 Miami
20-19 Dolphins
Howie/Herd/Whoever
MIA 23 – ATL 21
How we score 23 points, I have no idea how we score 23, but WTH
That’s the spirit!
Now we will all be disappointed in Sunday
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It would be a huge upset for us to win Sunday, but that’s why they play the games
I think we tend to play to the level of the competition. Or we used to. The offense lately not so much.
So if we’re going to speculate….which is pretty much all we do here….Irma is heading toward Miami. Maybe Gase has a meeting to consider options. I betcha Foerster was in favor of going early to LA. Not that it would be the reason they did. But I can see that as something that might have happened.
I’m such a shit stirrer sometimes. But I admit it. Lol.
Hey I’ve got a girlfriends trip this weekend. No cell service or internet. Can someone else take care of the scores this week during Howie’s sabbatical?
I apologize for my anti-God rant last night. I was frustrated by some other things and was having a discussion with my friends about the subject recently and let it bleed here. It was disrespectful to those of you who do have faith. My bad. Sorry.
Turn around, he’s right behind you, and he’s pissed! lol
Douchebag….
Guilty
Solid move, and Jahn always forgives. 🙂
Herd
I would volunteer, but I’m working today, tomorrow and Saturday, so I don’t want to make a promise I can’t keep
I’m working now, this evening is a cluster…I’ve got to pack and finish making this dragon costume for the horse. 😳
Tim will take care of it for us – Thanks Tim – Appreciate it. 😉
Tim Knight says:
October 12, 2017 at 2:52 pm
I apologize for my anti-God rant last night. I was frustrated by some other things and was having a discussion with my friends about the subject recently and let it bleed here. It was disrespectful to those of you who do have faith. My bad. Sorry.
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I skipped over all of last night’s posts: too political and off topic for me… and I’m not going to go back to dig up your post(s). That you are man enough to apologize to those of us with faith is all I need to hear, man. Thank you kindly, my Brother. You’re a good dude! 🙂
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Landry is fired up about those who called for a QB change last Sunday. Called it “embarrassing.”
Howie/Herd/Whomever
Dolphins – 52
Falcons – 10
Dolphins offense roars to life with 4 TD passes from Cutler, 2 rushing TDs from Ajayi, and a 28 yd FG from Parkey. Dolphins also get a strip-sack fumble recovery for a TD, Harris with the score.
Atlanta draws first blood with a FG on their first possession, then proceeds to miss a total of 3 FGs from distances of 48, 52, 37 before finally scoring a TD on their 2nd to last possession of the game.
On Monday, after celebrating a resounding win deep into the night, Kong correctly picks all the numbers for the next Powerball drawing and is never seen on the finsmobunleashed site again. Rumors abound, and over the next few years, reports have him surfacing in various points on the map wearing a cheap, tattered Spiderman costume while saving burning babies from houses and rescuing trees from aggressive, limb-hugging, acrophobic cats. When asked about his possible connection to these events, Kong’s ex-wife tells reporters “Yeah, that sounds about right.” and refuses to give any other statement on the matter.
The Dolphins win the Super Bowl in the 2022 season, and cameras catch the image of haggard looking man in the crowd, wearing a Spiderman costume, mask off, tears in his eyes.
😀 That’s great. Can’t wait to see the game Sunday
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Landry said it is embarrassing to fans who shout WE WANT MOORE. Landry upset about it
Intriguing… being Cutler is costing Jarvis $$$ on the open-market.
He’s a team guy, and right now, Cutler is his QB
Let’s hope that Jarvis is a team guy when it comes time to re-sign him (ie: hometown discount).
Fans calling for Moore, broadcasters, explayers , coaches, all calling for Moore. The net and airwaves are loaded at people laughing at our 10 million dollar desperation mistake called Cutler.
Are they right? In Cutlers defense, well, he has 2 TD,s, lol. That’s about all to say on Cutler.
There is One coach going with Cutler, that’s Gase, so either he knows more than everyone else, or were screwed when Cutler implodes
Wouldn’t he know more than everyone else? He’s with this team 24/7, not the commentators or the fans, and he’s certainly more qualified to make that decision, compared to a commentator who briefly watches our team or a fan like any of us.
I hope he shows em all wrong, lol. Gase is our coach!
I think Cutler hasn’t looked very good. But Gase is supposed to be the QB guru. The QB is his specialty. I figure he knows what he is doing. There has to be a reason he’s sticking with Cutler over Moore, and I trust his decision over announcers, fans, people on this board, myself, lol.
Landry should get whatever he can get, no hometown discount owed. Dolphins can move some players around or whatever, but Landry has earned his money, and while a discount would be nice, iWe can’t expect it, and it’s unfair to ask a man playing his ass off on a rookie contract for a discount.
He has waited 4 years for his payday, discounts are for someone with a fat ass contract, like Tannehill , that also misses a bunch of games over the last 2 years
Agreed. with the way things work in this league, this could end up being his only chance at a big payday. I won’t hold it against him if he leaves for a bigger payday than we’re willing to pay.
Agreed. Between Cutler and Maxwell coming off the books next year that’s $20M right there. They can get a deal done if both sides are on the same page.
CavalierKong says:
October 12, 2017 at 3:35 pm (Edit)
Howie/Herd/Whomever
Dolphins – 52
Falcons – 10
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Nobody likes a Gorilla on crack!
What in the Chris Foerrester has gotten into you!
LOL
We must be honest: we’re a Younghoe Koo FG and a ‘gift from the zebras’ away from being 0-4. That doesn’t exactly exude confidence in our Offensive game-planning, Cutler’s abilities, our lackluster O-Line play… or Adam Gase, for that matter.
I think it’s fair to question Gase’s decision-making until our Offensive performances render such a question as unwarranted.
Methinks Gase is loyal to a fault with Cutler… they are like BFFs, based on everything I’ve read, heard, and seen with my own eyes (on the TV… not in person, of course). I recognize this ‘loyalty to a fault’ behavior… because that’s MY problem, as well.
Missed FGs and gifts from zebras happen every week in most games. Also dropped TDs and other mistakes are reasons we didn’t score more. Lots of plays decide games. Not just a couple of glaring ones or questionable calls.
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An interesting convo with Adam Gase about Jay Cutler’s throwing mechanics and “the reality of getting old.” http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2017/10/12/adam-gase-teaching-dolphins-qb-jay-cutler-reality-of-getting-old/ …
The reality of getting old….
nope…I don’t think I have to read about that…I feel like I have that covered…
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Parker missed practice today and Gase is now rethinking what to do from here:
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article178465506.html
Everything Gase is quoted as saying in this article is exactly the argument I was making the other night. Cutler can’t get away with the bad mechanics anymore.
Or how ’bout the article above this one, lol.
I hear ya, Kong!
+1000000000000000000
I wonder if jumping off a cliff is an option
well if we’re being honest the lack of time Cutler has had with this offense also the injuries to the OL and lack of run support may be why this offense is struggling. you just don’t come on a team as a QB and elevate your game to top 10 right away, it takes time to know the offense and everyones tendancies.
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mf13ss says:
October 12, 2017 at 4:22 pm
We must be honest:
I think it’s fair to question Gase’s decision-making until our Offensive performances render such a question as unwarranted.
100% agreed and acknowledged by me. And know that Cutler knows the Gase Offense.
Matt Moore now has 1 year under the Gase Offense (the 2016 season).
Jay Cutler has only ever had 1 year under the Gase Offense (the 2015 season).
Moore has lots of familiarity with our Offensive players.
Cutler has had ZERO familiarity with our Offensive players.
Moore isn’t coming off arm surgery.
Cutler is coming off arm surgery.
Moore has been a FULL participant in our offseason programs.
Cutler was in retirement ALL offseason, taking his skills to the booth.
Moore has a passer rating of 105.6 over his last 3 regular season games as a Phin.
Cutler has a passer rating of 74.8 over his last 4 regular season games as a Phin.
Moore has 721 passing yards (8 TDs, 3 INTs) over his last 3 regular season games as a Phin.
Cutler has 706 passing yards (3 TDs, 3 INTs) over his last 4 regular season games as a Phin.
Moore has been sacked 1 time over his last 3 regular season games as a Phin.
Cutler has been sacked 10 times over his last 4 regular season games as a Phin.
I dunno, y’all… am I missing something, other than Cutler’s $10M price tag and he’s BFF with Gase?
I think you’re missing something HUGE. Gase isn’t playing Cutler because he’s his BFF, he’s playing him because he thinks he gives us the best chance to win. You’re creating this BFF scenario. Gase ultimately is judged by wins and losses, and he wouldn’t sacrifice that for Cutler.
That’s best chance long term for the entire season
Mike – Are you saying this BFF report is fake news!?!
Mike E. says:
October 12, 2017 at 5:08 pm
I think you’re missing something HUGE. Gase isn’t playing Cutler because he’s his BFF, he’s playing him because he thinks he gives us the best chance to win. You’re creating this BFF scenario. Gase ultimately is judged by wins and losses, and he wouldn’t sacrifice that for Cutler.
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I didn’t create this BFF scenario… the media did. I don’t even know if it’s true or not, thanks to fake news.
If Cutler gives us the best chance to win, you didn’t read the stats I posted above, cat.
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I actually just heard Julius Thomas on 790 ripping Omar for comma splices.
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Tim Knight says:
October 12, 2017 at 4:29 pm
Missed FGs and gifts from zebras happen every week in most games. Also dropped TDs and other mistakes are reasons we didn’t score more. Lots of plays decide games. Not just a couple of glaring ones or questionable calls.
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I think you’re missing my greater point. We barely beat the 1-4 Chargers and we barely beat the 2-3 Titans. The stej killed us and the Saints shut us out.
If we’re dependent upon missed FGs and gifts from the zebras in order to win — while our Defense is TOP-5 — something is VERY WRONG with our Offense.
For sure… these things happen every week to every team, but it generally doesn’t affect the outcome of a win or loss unless it’s a one-score game. Our slim wins having been contingent upon these little things is what is so concerning. If our Offense is doing what it’s supposed to do, we should be beating teams by a margin of no less than 10 points… no excuses.
No worries. We’re going to beat the Falcons by 42 this Sunday.
Mike,
In your opinion, who gives us a better chance to win this Sunday? Moore or Cutler?
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drg – Honestly, whoever Gase goes with, I honestly do believe that.
M – Those stats don’t mean a thing going forward.
Some FF owners are right now have there heads spinning as they delve into what this means for playing Elliot.
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Ezekiel Elliott lost the pivotal court battle that he needed on Thursday, as Louisiana’s 5th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 that the jurisdiction of his lawsuit and injunction against the NFL’s six-game suspension for violating the league’s domestic violence policy are both invalid.
It’s a significant loss for the Dallas Cowboys running back, who is now subject to having his six-game suspension begin at the discretion of NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.
Despite his case being struck down, Elliott has some legal life left.. Based on the court’s decision, he can seek a proper jurisdiction and re-file his lawsuit in the Southern District of New York. That’s the same turf where the case of New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady crashed and burned in 2016
Dang, haven’t played golf since March and went out and shot an 80 today. I was only 4 over par after 15 holes then went 4 over on the last three. That part sucked. LOL Guess I need to take another 7 month break. LOL
Crazy how that works, right?!!
Tim Knight says:
October 11, 2017 at 10:50 pm
Typical responses and no answers. I figured as much. God is good, whatever that means. Then we go back to what’s happening in the world and shake our heads. Don’t worry, God will take care of it. It’s been a long time tested theory and belief and the results are in. Perfect score, right?
Yeah I’m David Part II. Easy to say, tougher to live with the reality. Oh my, God doesn’t exist the way we think he/she does. Just wondering, is God male or female?
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Tim, you seem to base your perception of God off experience you have had with “God’s people”, most of which couldn’t tell you what a real personal relationship with God is. Ill give you my best answer for your questions, but ill tell you at the end what its really about.
The good or bad judgement of God is a perspective thing and you have just as many thinking he is bad as good, the real problem is not many people think of him at all when doing the good or bad they do, on a conceptual level God is morality, so do you have a moral compass that tells you your doing good or bad? If you do bad did God may you do that or did you ignore your moral compass? If you did good, was that God or were you just following that compass? God is a director/producer of a full improvisational play, he gives the actors things they need to make the scenes(direction, support, love), but those actors have to bring it to life, and the end result will be a combination of contribution, both good and bad, that will take the play to a happy or tragic end.
God isn’t male or female, i subconsciously pick a male pronoun when i talk about him, but that’s because the real concept of what a deity is, is outside our comprehension. God is God, formless, limitless and omnipotent. It wouldn’t really matter if they were male or female, black or white, or something completely indescribable, you don’t love them for their characteristics, you don’t respect and honor them just because they can be relateable to you, you do it because they are God, your maker, and the one that provided you with an opportunity to live this life of your own free will.
Tim everything i believe in i believe in with every molecule in my body. I have questioned it in the past. I have sought out other meanings that would make me feel more secure about being right, or at least provable that i was right. I have been mad at God, i have been disrespectful to God, hell im a pretty damn flawed person to really feel i know anything about any of this, but my in my heart i have never found a more right thing for me. I dont feel i have to prove God’s existence to belive in him, i don’t think i have to make God the reason i do a good thing or a bad thing, nor do i feel the need to credit him with all things good, i credit him with this life, and to be honest all of your lives too. To me God has already done enough for me in that, and im hoping that before i die i can do enough for him to make at least a few more people feel this way.
One last thing, i also do not feel a need to tell you you are wrong, as i have said before, faith in God is a personal relationship, no one should tell you you must have one, and anyone doing that doesn’t really understand faith. Wanting someone else to have faith is just wanting them to have a belief in something that enriches their lives, and to me if atheism is that thing for you, if the belief in nothing makes you feel in control and at peace, then that’s where you need to be. You know in your heart if it is, or isn’t, i have no place telling you that.
I apologized for my rant on this issue. I wish I never posted it.
Tim im not berating you, im trying to bridge a gap between a person of faith and a person with a different kind of faith. We are and should be able to relate to one another and i dont want you feeling like people claiming to be God’s are all of that same mindset, infact i really want you to see those people for what they really are.
D,
Not sure if you had read up the page, but Tim DID apologize. That’s good enough for me, Bro. But for what it’s worth… I like what you just said! 🙂
To be honest i didnt even see the rant from last night, i saw the re-post above and i just wanted to explain my beliefs. I think there is a big problem right now with a lot of people claiming to be God’s people but not showing an ounce of understanding for the people they lambast, nor for their own religion. Multiple different things within the christian faith speak against what they do, and my point to them is normally, you dont understand why people are turning from God right now, grab your bible, sit in the mirror and read the passages while you self evaluate, and im pretty sure that answer is going to be staring right back at you.
Tim, I believe God is there for everyone, but not everyone is there for him.
Sometimes people need to humble themselves , and ask what He wants, instead of what they want. A lot to go into on a football blog, lol but I would try some personal meditation and soul searching, and I believe You WILL get some answers. I do it when I need it and it’s Golden!
The universe is loaded with positive sources from God, tying into them isn’t that hard, and rewards You with unexpected ways, and predictable ways, but always a way.
I believe when God promises us He would never give us more than We can bear, so if I ever come close to that feeling, and a few times I have, I ask for help, and always receive 😎
M13, the offense is hurting our chances in these games, we all know this. The defense was good enough to win all 4 games. Scoring 19, 6, 0 and 9 is not enough to beat any team most of the time. Allowing 17, 20, 20 and 10 is good enough to win most games. So how we won or almost lost doesn’t concern me much, how bad the offense has looked does for sure. That has to change, and change fast.
Tim i lost my grandmother 2 days before my birthday, shit in what seems like forever ago now. This was a woman who was the person i was closest to in my family. I loved her like nothing else. She had an aneurysm and even though i prayed hard for God to let me see her, to not let her die, to take me instead of her, everything i could think of to stop the inevitable, he took her. I was very upset, mad at God for not saving her.
My uncle, her son, who had been diagnosed with prostate cancer, but they felt like they got it all, relapsed very soon after and was dead shortly after that. It would have destroyed my grandmother has she had to watch what the rest of us in the family watched when a big strong 6’4 former football player and successful executive got brought to his knees, bed ridden and calling to his mother as he hallucinated from the pain medication he was having to take. So now i knew why my prayers weren’t answered, its because the future prayers of my grandmothers were.
Its not our place to feel we should have all prayers answered, just to be grateful when some of them are. The rest is faith that there is something out there that knows the answers to why, is in control. Again, thats how i feel, and im sure you dont feel the same, but im just trying to be helpful if i can. Shit like that hurts, and it never really gets better. Im sorry for your loss as much as i am my own.
I’m not feeling berated by you at all. I’ll explain how I feel about it in a more civil manner at some point, just not now.
Its cool. We have had discussions in the past about it, im sure there will be more. I actually saw more pain in what i read than anger and i was hoping maybe some of my experience and feelings might help ease it a little.
That would be accurate and how it started. Before the concert in LV they sang God Bless America and then they were shot, killed and injured. So I question whether God really listens or…
I believed in God when my Grandmother died when I was 8 years old. She was my Mom’s Mother and I was very close to her. My questioning of God started there. I’ll get back to how it progressed at another time.
Thanks for your approach and compassion about it.
I went through it with my sister, she was an incredible girl, and mother of three, and I lost her to brain cancer. I really did feel like God owed me an answer, for a long time.
But then I came to realize, I has the answer all along.
God says Beautiful is the death of a saint.
When the spirit moves to a better place, You will know and see that it was better, and they were happy. I experienced this with my sister, mother, and father.
Spirits are immortal, flesh and bones are not
I has – I had *
I will admit I do hold out hope that our spirits exist in another way. The many deaths of family and friends in recent years had me hoping for that more and more. But there is a part of me that doubts it as well. I hope that part of me is wrong.
D,
I gave you a compliment, man! As a Christian, I really DO like what you had to say above.
And as a Christian, I accept Tim’s apology… he’s a decent man, man. I feel no need to continue the convo any further. Luv ya BOTH! 🙂
Thanks, brother!
Do you guys think Parker will play this Sunday or we’ll hold him out for another week? It’s a FF issue and I might need to start Agholor. I probably should just pass on starting Parker until the offense shows something. But I got burned when I did that with Beckham in week 3.
Tim Knight says:
October 12, 2017 at 7:07 pm
I will admit I do hold out hope that our spirits exist in another way. The many deaths of family and friends in recent years had me hoping for that more and more. But there is a part of me that doubts it as well. I hope that part of me is wrong.
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I should probably just e-mail ya this, but what the heck…
I will NEVER hit anybody over the head with the Bible or my Christian beliefs (I think ya know that by now). And no… my political positions are not solely due to my faith. ‘Man-made religion’ pizzes me off too, Brother. We’ve seen perversion after perversion after perversion throughout history, to be sure.
I know MUCH about the Quran, the Torah, the Bible, the Buddha, the Dalai Lama, etc, etc. I know MUCH of ancient civilizations and their so-called “gods”.
I guess what I’m trying to say is this… I can’t make a horse drink water, even after leading his thirsty azz to an oasis. But if you EVER feel the need to explore GOD, I will ALWAYS be here for you, my good friend.
Until then, I’m content with just talking about football (HELL YEAH!!!). I just wanted to let ya know that I’m here for ya, buddy, if you so wish to talk about these things. #RESPECT
Thanks, brother. Now should I start Parker? LOL
Do you know much about all those scriptures? It’s a lot. I worked for Orthodox Jews and they study the Torah daily and are always discussing and pondering its meaning.
Not calling you out, it’s just a lot of thoughts and ideals written by humans over a few thousand years. Whether it was inspired by God, doesn’t it lend itself to say there should be no religion because it creates too many different Gods? Religion is human to me whether God exists or not. I also believe evolution can exist with God because humans are wrong about nature all the time. God may say I did not create the world in 7 days. I’ve been at this for millions of years.
More established Asian and Hebrew cultures may go back over 6,000 years. Why did these scriptures get created so late in God’s plan?
These are the questions I have asked for years. No hostility, but trying to make sense of it all and how we use it to this day.
whew
This blog demands a lot of energy.
Not only must i be up on the Wide 9, the x receiver’s best routes and who should be that and if that is every team’s WR1, and the nuances of the West Coast offense as it has morphed in the New Millennium (and every other minute yet crucial facet of football that all of you amazing scholars of the game already know), but I also must be an expert on craft beer, Affordable Health Care, constitutional law vs. labor law, and horses that transvest as dragons!
And now I must contemplate the definition, scope, and powers of God, dammit!
OK, so I studied the God thing before most of you were born and decided to invent my own religion.
In my religion, I am God.
Although, since i am a pantheist, so are you. So is your dog.
So are the trees.
Mushrooms, i’m not so sure about. I think mushrooms are Satan.
Now I know you all want to sign up for my religion, so you can learn cool God stuff to do.
However, my religion does not proselytize, so it matters not at all whether you want to join.
Tim Knight says:
October 12, 2017 at 7:48 pm
Thanks, brother. Now should I start Parker? LOL
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You KNOW I don’t dabble in fantasy football, Bro! 🙂
me either … not into fantasy anything really, but fantasy football seems like an oxymoron and a lot of pointless work to me.
Yeah, man… same here.
I played fantasy football ONE time in my life, many moons ago. I found myself rooting AGAINST our Phins for the glory of the guys I had on my FF team. NEVER AGAIN!
Okay, do you think Parker will play Sunday? It’s not a crazy question. LOL
I have him, and I’m not confident he’s going to be a good play this week. He may play and then go right back out, and that worries me
Thanks, I’m not going with Ahgolor tonight. He’ll have 3 TDs now. LOL
Further PROOF that ya can’t funk with DAN the MAN
LOL @ Rodgers falling to 24 like Dan did at 27.
In FF you don’t root because it isn’t a factor in what actually happens. It’s a numbers game. Good players make plays and 2nd and 3rd tier players do less most of the time. You put in a lineup and if that guy roasts the team that you root for, your opinion had nothing to do with it anyway. It either happens or it doesn’t. LOL
Naples, so you believe life is God?
Well put, … not exactly how I say it, but you might be saying the same thing.
I believe that God is the spirit of life, God is that spark which sets life apart from inanimate objects. Rocks are not God, nor are any other inanimate objects. They have no animus.
But all living things possess and share that energy which animates and activates us all.
That is why people can communicate with animals and even plants … because we communicate through that channel of energy. Now i do not mean corn speaks English, but rather that corn sustains us with its energy and when we nurture plants they flourish.
Death is defined as the cessation of occupancy of a particular molecular construct by its active energy. Since energy is neither created nor destroyed, there is life after death. It’s just not “up there” nor anywhere specific nor do we maintain our corporeal attributes.
The spirit does not die, however, and “kindred spirits” might very well maintain bonds and recognition after physical death with those they knew before. It is almost certain that when freed from the limitations of the body, the human spirit, your God-self, will be free to recognize and empathize and reconnect with your grandmother’s freed spirit, her godself.
As the energy leaves that which is known as the human body, it can transfer to another host and it will continue on forever, which is why some people feel that thing they call reincarnation.
Reincarnation is real. Just not in the sense that a specific human once lived as another specific human (or cockroach) in the historical past. New plants grow from the detritus on the forest floor. The spirit never dies, nor does the matter; it merely, or grandly, reconstitutes itself into another corporeal entity. A human’s molecules, or matter, might come back as a tree. One’s energy might energize a tree. How grand it would be to be an oak tree, how beautiful it would be to come back as a rose. Or a tiger. Or a dolphin.
The concept of free-ranging spirits is an area of debate in my religion, with some thinking no spirit can exist without a body and others thinking the spirit can exist “in the ether” for lack of a better term, which is why some people swear they have “seen” ghosts or have communicated with departed loved ones, the bonds being so strong as to transcend the limitations of the flesh.
That interconnected energy for example is sometimes known as empathy and is so strong that people can cry at movies, give charity to the needy thousands of miles away, and bond with seemingly disparate foreigners with no apparent similar language or customs.
That is why prayer works when it works and why some say it works in mysterious ways.
Although we do not believe that you can petition the Lord in prayer in the sense that the Doors meant it, we do believe in what D and MF and others above mean when they say they feel a power of brotherhood (or herdhood, in certain West Virginia cases) welling up in bountiful well-wishes for others.
God is the channel for the incredible power of prayer when mass amounts of people pray for the improvement of a condition affecting others in the God-spiritual energy network. This does not always prevent death. It does ensure that the spirit of the dying person is comforted and made “happy” however it is that energy can be happy, and the spirit or our loved ones never forgets the people who cared for them in their former corporeal state.
Tim Knight says:
October 12, 2017 at 8:14 pm
Do you know much about all those scriptures? It’s a lot. I worked for Orthodox Jews and they study the Torah daily and are always discussing and pondering its meaning.
Not calling you out, it’s just a lot of thoughts and ideals written by humans over a few thousand years. Whether it was inspired by God, doesn’t it lend itself to say there should be no religion because it creates too many different Gods? Religion is human to me whether God exists or not. I also believe evolution can exist with God because humans are wrong about nature all the time. God may say I did not create the world in 7 days. I’ve been at this for millions of years.
More established Asian and Hebrew cultures may go back over 6,000 years. Why did these scriptures get created so late in God’s plan?
These are the questions I have asked for years. No hostility, but trying to make sense of it all and how we use it to this day.
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I feel you’re over-complicating the matter… such is the case what with ‘man-made religion’… and I understand that, buddy.
GAZE into the stars by night, and REALIZE that our ethnocentric ideas are WEAK and IGNORANT.
REALIZE the massive sands of LBI (right?!!), and REALIZE that we are but a mere grand of sand in this universe.
UNDERSTAND that we are only ever in control of our own thoughts/actions/influence, and that our actions have effects on others.
I want to say more, but I will not here, my good friend. Get at me on my e-mail, if you so wish.
Where is GDP, y’all? I hope he’s okay.
have not seen that bat out of hell anytime recently either
The poster called Bat i mean to say…sorry
Well Tim, you have expanded the discussion from departed loved ones and the after life and the nature of God to creationism, ancient literature, and the primitive attempts to explain scientific phenomena.
Much can be said about the Bible, Biblical creation myths, and the pantheon of named superhumans such as Thor, Zeus, and Jehovah and the demi-gods such as Jesus and others purported to be sons of gods and humans.
But many folks become very angry when their Bible, Koran, or religious sect is “explained” as if that demeans it, so as MF says, I should probably refrain from detailing my beliefs about Jesus, etc.
I don’t know where GDP or Bat have been
GDP was a regular poster here up and through last year – and a die hard Tannehill supporter
I’m guessing the injury left him to devastated to post
Bat made a few visits here after we prodded him to stop by – so we should probably do tha same
Also I don’t know why either Booker or Al have not posted recently
I’ve spoken to each on Twitter
I will have to insist they stop by some time too!
We have a really rich roster of posters when everyone checks in.
It’s an amazing group.
I guess ill have to supply the Grease Soundtrack in Bookmans absence
Lol
Tim , your prayers were answered. Agholor having a very good game..🤡 hope this is taken in the intended context
I didn’t start him. LOL
What an incredible play from cam Newton
It really was… did they not change the “ endless goaline” a couple years back to where the ball must pass inside the Pylon ?
I don’t know
I just think they called it no TD bc it looked impossible
Work beckons early tomorrow. Thanks to you all for another excellent several hours of reading.
Night sir
Piggy he landed really hard as well , i think he hurt his shoulder pretty bad .. he’s thrown a couple Cutler balls since then
https://twitter.com/MDCheer/status/918492632606584834
Welcome to Wentzylvania
The one that hurts the most. Pick #8 Ryan Tannehill. Pick #9 Luke Keuchly. Sucks
Lou Wentz was great but he sucked in the 4th qtr last night
naplesfan2010 says:
October 12, 2017 at 10:41 pm
Well Tim, you have expanded the discussion from departed loved ones and the after life and the nature of God to creationism
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I think Suh does most of the creating but make no mistake God is doing really good along side him.
Tim
We shoulda played Agholor! Wasn’t great, but more than I’ve been getting out of Parker and Watkins. I may have to wait and see how Parker progresses.
Should ALL Sons of bitches be fired for disrespecting the flag, and the military ? Or just the NFL ones? What if the president is the son of a bitch doing the diesrespecting of flag and military?
Fire him?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/10/12/trump-rips-the-nfl-for-disrespecting-the-flag-then-he-jokes-about-a-military-flag-ceremony/?utm_term=.4b1f63af414e
Rock hasn’t been around in a while either, as far as regulars go
Where is NJ Phinfan?
In his restaurant in Tennessee
President Woodrow Wilson once said, “This flag, which we honor and under which we serve, is the emblem of our unity, our power, our thought and purpose as a nation. It has no other character than that which we give it from generation to generation. The choices are ours. It floats in majestic silence above the hosts that execute those choices, whether in peace or in war. And yet, though silent, it speaks to us — speaks to us of the past, or the men and women who went before us, and of the records they wrote upon it.”
For both past and current military members, rendering a salute has always been deeply imbedded in their minds as part of the U.S. Armed Forces. Sword salutes, gun salutes, greetings and honoring the American flag – while distinct salutes – are all similarly done to express honor and respect.
Reveille and Retreat
According to AFPAM 34-1202, 14.10.1, Reveille and Retreat, the U.S. flag is flown daily from reveille until retreat. Reveille is the raising of the flag for the day’s activities and is a ceremony to honor the flag when it is raised in the morning and plays at 7 a.m. Retreat is the retirement of the flag from the day’s activities and plays at 4:30 p.m.
During the playing of reveille and retreat, uniformed military personnel should stand at attention and face the American flag, or the direction of the music if a flag is not visible. If reveille or retreat is followed by the national anthem or “To the Color,” military personnel should salute (during the entirety of the song).
. Civilians should stand at attention and place their right hand – with a hat if they’re wearing one – over their heart.
I’m glad to see that you are now following your leader President Donald Trump in his courageous battle to defend the flag and American honor.
Good work David
You misunderstood, the following post explains he handled it incorrectly.
Also him disrespecting the flag is wrong too, so I do not support that or his foolish actions. Read everything! Not cherry pick, lol but thanks for reading
David
You have to stop doing this. This is not a blog to post inflammatory stuff and pull people in a debate about politics on a daily basis. If you want to do that do that on your blog.
Im the biggest trump hater there is. But I understand why people are responding to you and there is a fight every day – they feel they have to. But it’s pretty clear that you keep starting it without being provoked and your morning posts this morning deminstrate that
I don’t mind some politics here. I engage in it a lot.
But everyday? First things in the morning?
Stop doing that please for the good of the blog. I
Woodrow Wilson quote is negative? I find it inspiring!
Info about retreat and reveille is negative?
Honoring the flag is negative? Wtf, lmao
do I get to tell you what to post too?
If You don’t want to talk politics, a respectful asking of it, would have done the trick. The rest of it is unnecessary and negative so early in the morning.
The reason people fight, is because they are on the left or right, and lately neither side likes hearing what doesn’t fit their already established beliefs. I don’t personally attack others, but they attack the messenger, if the message isn’t totally sucking up to trump.
They have something real to debate, bing it, but they can’t debate when I’m right, sontheybattack personally as a default
So they attack *
I apologize to the room for talking politics, I guess no one ever does that?
I don’t want to argue President Wilson inspirational quotes, military respect and honoring the flag is being negative, these are inspirational to patriotic Americans
FUCK !! That’s all I got.
🎂🎂🎂 Happy Birthday Sonny🎂🎂🎂
Happy birthday Sonny
Reading comprehension……
Happy Birthday Son !!! Hope you have a Great Day..
Don’t apologize David
Just stop doing it please
We don’t have a hard rule on talking politics
But instigating those conversation affects the blog in a negative way
So please stop – we all create this community together
Fwiw, I thought you did ask in a nice way, explained the reasoning. I saw nothing there that could be called an ‘attack’. I don’t get it. 🤷♀️
Reading comprehension
he can’t help it…suffers from T.D.S.,,,,TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROM.
Parker not practicing again. Looks like he isn’t gonna play. Great!
He only played Great during pre-season. 🙂
Yeah. But this offense needs all the help it can get! He is their main hope for Cutler to throw more than 5yds down field.
I think we will be okay without Parker
It would be great to have him but I think a WR missing a few
Games is an area where we are safe depth wise
Maybe Grant or Carroo can make an impact
Carrooooooooooo!!!!!
(Blowing in a conch)
Hahahahahahaha…..
Parker has been our best WR even though the offense has been bad.
He was on pace for a very good season in spite of the horrible offense before his injury
It’s only a sprained ankle but sometimes you need to stay off of it for a week or two. This does give the depth a chance to prove themselves.
I think so too
I’m not broken up about it
We are still waiting for the offense to gel – that doesn’t have to come through him
So to me, it’s not make or break
Will LC III ever emerge as a player?
LC III
Is that the new iPhone or something ?
It’s the old 3 for 1 draft pick from 2016
I just got an update in FF league that Parkers status has been changed from questionable to doubtful
Yeah I figured as much. Grant and Carroo need to step up.
If Amari Cooper doesn’t play, he’s also questionable, I don’t have another WR. Well, I did, but it’s Nelson Agholor. lol
I’ll have to play Latavius Murray in the FLEX, and put Jermaine Kearse as a WR. Oh joy!
Sometimes I wonder about Gase. He says something along the lines of, I need to get Caroo involved more, I intended to but….. Need to do this, need to do that…every week he says something and doesn’t seem like much changes. Well, he’s calling the plays. He decides who is in and who isn’t right? I think he needs to have a meeting with himself and fire the play caller and get a new one.
I really questioned Gase a lot at the start of the 2016 season
And then we ended up having a great season
So I give him a lot of latitude
But I don’t get the plays he’s calling
Or the qb he’s sticking with
He does seem to have inner challenges with himself.