The Dolphins will have a short time to celebrate this week after an exciting come from behind victory at Hard Rock stadium in Miami. QB Matt Moore led the comeback against the Jets down 28-14 after Jay Cutler was sacked and was later to be found to have multiple cracked ribs. The Dolphins prevailed with Moore at the helm, winning the game 31-28 in the final minute of the game. Fest games don’t get much better than that, although I have to admit, last year’s Buffalo comeback win 28-24 was pretty damn close!
So Cutler is out, and now all of you who can’t stand Cutler get your wish. I caution you though, be careful what you wish for! No slight to Moore, but Jay Cutler was actually playing well in this game. Yeah, detractors will point out the pass to Stills (Which was a completion BTW), or the tipped pass for an INT (It happens to every QB), or that we were down 28-14. I don’t know any more than any of you who want Moore over Cutler, but I got a guy on my side who counts a lot more than you knuckleheads, and that’s HC Adam Gase.
I’ll say this, Moore looked very confident, very comfortable, and moved the team well. There was a definite difference in the tempo, Moore ran things smoothly, as if he’s been here for years, well, because he has. I liked what I saw, but I also remember the Matt Moore that makes a great throw one play, and the next tries to force one in there and it’s going the other way. Matt Moore is a capable NFL QB, but is he sustainable? I’m not sure if we’ll find that out, because I think he may only get a few games (3-4) before Cutler is healthy enough to play again, and at that point, I do hope it’s a difficult decision for Adam Gase to make, because that would mean Moore has been playing great. If Moore struggles, there will be no question at all that Cutler will be the QB when healthy.
How about that D-E-F-E-N-S-E ? Yeah, they struggled a bit against the Jets, but came up big at the end of the game, shutting down the Jets on their last 3 possessions, coming up with the HUGE Bobby McCain INT on the last of the 3 to enable the Dolphins to kick the game winning field goal. Cam Wake now has 6 sacks in 6 games, which puts him on pace for 16 for the season, which would be a career high for Wake at age 35. Isn’t that somethin’? The defense has been getting contributions from a lot of players, the D-line, and I mean more than just Suh, including Phillips, Godchaux, Hayes, Taylor, Harris, Fede, and of course, the LB’s, Alonso, Timmons and even Maualuga. Reshad Jones is back, and is exactly what we need back there in the secondary. I can’t wait to see the tandem of Jones and McDonald in Week 9. Nate Allen hasn’t been awful, but he’s a complete non-factor. The two young CB’s have had their ups and downs, tank had a rough outing last week, but he’s going to have those. I’m very pleased with the tandem of Tankersley and Howard. Next year, hopefully Lippett is back too, and Bobby McCain made a huge play and has been playing better, so things are looking up.
The Ravens have been decimated by injuries, hit even harder than our own Dolphins team, which has seen it’s share for sure. Joe Flacco has struggled this season, with only 5 TD’s and 8 INT’s. Son’s boy Breshad Perriman and Mike Wallace are the wideouts, Ben Watson is the TE, and the ravens feature a RB by committee approach, with a combo of Javorius Allen, Alex Collins and Terrance West. Allen is their leading receiver with 31 receptions, and also has the most carries with 82 for 301 yards and 1 TD. Terrell Suggs still leads the defense, in his hybrid role of LB and pass rushing DE. The Ravens are allowing 21.1 PPG while our Dolphins defense 18,7 PPG. On offense, the Ravens are averaging 18.6 while the Dolphins a paltry 15.3.
It was another fantastic FEST, and I hope that more of you guys and girls can attend the next one. It’s a great time to be had, and I actually miss all of you who partied with us last week. If you can find a way to make it, I can assure you won’t regret it! Dilly Dilly!
The Ravens are coming off a tough loss to the Vikings, 26-14, but those pesky Ravens seem to always give us a tough time. Last season, the Ravens spanked us 38-6. In 2015, we eeked out a 15-13 win. In 2010, 2013 and 2014, The Ravens beat us and almost all of those games severely hurt our playoff chances. No other way to put it, but I freaking HATE the Ravens! Besides our division rivals, there is no other NFL team I hate more, so I hope Matt Moore brings his “A” game, and the defense does as well!
MIAMI 23 – BALTIMORE 16
5 and 2 baby! GO DOLPHINS! Zero in!
Finsmob Unleashed 
jax is tied with Miami for the final playoff spot if the season ended today
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I disagree with your assessment of Gase and Ajayi. The Pats traded a starting QB for a 2nd, we got a 4th for a RB. Trades don’t net big draft compensation anymore. I think we got fair compensation for Ajayi, I was just shocked we actually did it.
I think we got about a round different….so you must not disagree much because we are pretty close on the compensation
Yeah, not much at all, but I don’t think Gase calling him out is a big deal. Once you show you’re willing to trade someone, it’s implied there’s a reason behind it, wouldn’t you agree?
Mike E. says:
October 31, 2017 at 11:15 am
Landry and Suh for Damon Harrison and a 1st and 2nd RD pick
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D says:
October 31, 2017 at 11:23 am
I wouldnt trade Suh for anything. IMO that’s replaceable talent, our defense is built around him. Im not going back to trying to get shit fixed on that side of the ball when we have so many problems on offensive side. Id do Landry and MacDonald for Collins and Darkwa, or Collins and a 4th
irreplacable
I seriously doubt though they give up Collins for anything.
I’m just playing with that one. I wanted Son to blast me. 😀
NFL trade deadline is 4 p.m. EST….and yeah that is today.
I thought that it was 4pm tomorrow
Today. That’s why all the shit is going down now
I might would look into trading for Ebron and cut Thomas too. I posed a Landry scenario yesterday, but even if we keep Landry, i think Ebron needs a new home and i think he isnt worse than Thomas, who is more expensive
We need a QB bad. If we are going to move Landry, then QB should be heavily considered if there is one that can help us.
ESPN’s Josina Anderson reports the Dolphins have told Jarvis Landry he will not be traded.
This contradicts an earlier report which had the Dolphins shopping Landry, although it is possible Miami is still fielding offers despite telling Landry he would not be moved. We should know for sure when the trade deadline passes at 4 p.m. ET today.
i think if they could get a 2nd for him they would move him due to his pending FA’cy
Mando is now reporting the same thing but has said situation is still “fluid”
i was always worried about Ajayi’s knee
The bone on bone thing has not been a problem, yet, but we all know it’s a ticking time bomb of sorts
It’s (a 4th) lower than I would like – but RBs tend to be thought of as replaceable
It’s not the compensation that upsets me. It’s the idea that Ajayi was a problem for the offense, even though he was doing about 90% of the work.
Ajayi has 138 carries in 7 games this year. Drake and Williams have a combined 22.
If Ajayi was such a problem, team should have known weeks ago yet continued to feature him. Something is really wrong IMO
Valid points, something is amiss with management this year
he may have been free lancing against orders as maxwell was doing
they benched Maxwell and then released him week later…in this case they have barely played Drake or Williams
according to Mando there were confrontation with Ajayi and coaches for a few weeks. I know early in September Ajayi was upset at the way he was being used.
I don’t think it was freelancing like Maxwell. I think it was a perceived problem with insubordination
Mike E. says:
October 31, 2017 at 11:26 am
Yeah, not much at all, but I don’t think Gase calling him out is a big deal. Once you show you’re willing to trade someone, it’s implied there’s a reason behind it, wouldn’t you agree?
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Not in the NFL, or at least not always. I think that sometimes the FO does things to get players and sometimes they might ask the coach if he is ok with it. This feels more like there was no prior indication they wanted to shop him and then Gase had his fill after that last game. If they had been thinking about it all along as a “get value while you can” i think we would have seen more snaps by other backs, and Ajayi’s role diminished or even his health protected to make him more valuable. I think this stinks of a “he has a flaw i cant work with” thing that combined with the closing of the trade deadline made for a low sell on a top player. Philly knew we were looking to offload him, and they probably wrung a little value for themselves out of it.
Again, not saying it cost us a bunch, the knee thing that caused him to drop in the draft, some of the early benching stuff, etc, none of that was going to get us a first for him or probably even a second. I could have seen it as a trade for Blount and a 4th, or even a 3rd stright up, but i think Gase’s call out only hurt it slightly.
Do you think Philly called us because Gase called him out, or do you think we put out a For Sale sign? If it’s the latter, and we were shopping him, as far as I’m concerned it didn’t matter what Gase said. That’s how I feel.
You can bet Ajayi was on the block, last year gase had trouble with him at seattle and gases prior statements in his presser. the writing was on the wall
The fact Gase was blind to Foerster the Snowman and his rock star antics, doesn’t look good on his resume either.
I really dont know that you can call him out for that one. Its possible he knew a little about it and they were trying to steer him in the right direction behind the scenes. Its also likely that they didnt know until pretty close to the time the video came out, if at all. I know there are people here at my work, that until they went WAY over into the deep end with it, you would have had no clue. Those same people had others around them in their department that were trying to help them, but wound up coving things up for them, so its possible SOMEBODY knew, but they were trying to help him out of it, before the people who would do something about it noticed. I cant fault Gase for not seeing that one.
Philly doesn’t have a 1st or 3rd in 18. We got one of 3 fourth rounders they had.
Like i said, i would have pushed for the 4th and Blount, but thats about as much as i would have felt we could have gotten out of it.
October 31, 2017 at 11:34 am (Edit)
ESPN’s Josina Anderson reports the Dolphins have told Jarvis Landry he will not be traded.
This contradicts an earlier report which had the Dolphins shopping Landry, although it is possible Miami is still fielding offers despite telling Landry he would not be moved. We should know for sure when the trade deadline passes at 4 p.m. ET today.
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Somewhere Prof Lou is kicking his computer
I like IPA’s, your choice if you have a local one you want to send me im cool with that 🙂
2 Roads Road to Ruin. Brewed in Stratford CT
that beer sounds awesome. Ill have to look to see if i can get it here.
It’s a double IPA it’s really good
LOL !!
I dont believe that at all. They ride him too hard to really feel that way. I know they wanted to take some carries off of him, but if they really felt that way, they would have done it no matter what the cost in rushing would be. This happened right after the Gase boil over, this was done as a solution to a problem, where we could actually get compensation vs a straight out cut.
Gase seems like a player advocate, but one with a limit and i think when you reach his limit with you, you find a new place to play. He seems to give a lot of chances, i dont think he is a hot head, but he is an “im over it” guy. He showed that with Thomas, Turner and Douglas, and once he hit it, he purged all three of them, where it was probably just one of them that finally pushed him across the line.
Mike E. says:
October 31, 2017 at 11:42 am
Do you think Philly called us because Gase called him out, or do you think we put out a For Sale sign? If it’s the latter, and we were shopping him, as far as I’m concerned it didn’t matter what Gase said. That’s how I feel.
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I think there was already something out there with Philly probably from FA time. I think they revisited it after that game. I think Gase told them to shop him though, AFTER he flew off the handle. He didnt sound like he had any intentions of shopping Ajayi before it, he sure hadnt shown by how he has been using him he had decided to do that. I think it was a short sale situation, and we got short sale compensation.
My reasoning for this, was we were talking to Philly apparently during FA, the rumors were we were looking to trade for Kendricks (prior to Timmons), and i feel like there was groundwork laid for Ajayi then. The prices werent right, so after things went down, and Gase decided he had enough with Ajayi, they revisited the deal, this time with less trade leverage. Again, ultimately it doesnt matter a 4th is what we got, it wasnt horrible compensation, i just feel we coudl have gotten a wee bit more prior to Gase’s tirade. Im not really mad that Gase did the tirade either, i dont care that he called him out when he needed it, but its impossible for a coach thats respect like Gase, a players coach by more of the information thats out there, not being able to get a player to do his assignments and think, “Oh our coach wont have any problems”. Thats going to hurt deals a little.
Of course it happened after this past week, I’m not saying otherwise. I think that’s what prompted Gase to want to get rid of him. I just don’t think we would have gotten better compensation no mater what. I think we got max return on Ajayi.
“Miami believes Ajayi has a short NFL shelf life.” If that is true, why draft him in the first place? I’m having a hard time having any confidence in this organization right now. Coaches, front office, everybody. Where’s the leadership on this team?
Its hard to believe because its impossible to draw that conclusion. Thats the tiny static charge firing of the last brain cell in the braided coconut, thats not a real thought.
doing cocaine off a hooker’s ass
I bet he’s glad she didn’t FART!
I don’t believe Omar knows what the fuck he is talking about FWIW
the short shelf like take is kind of stupid
he was a 2nd rnd talent taken in the fifth due to knee injury so a short shelf life is not unlikely.
The Flying Pig says:
October 31, 2017 at 11:44 am
I don’t think it was freelancing like Maxwell. I think it was a perceived problem with insubordination
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In gases press release or i read it?? they didn’t like the fact that he was trying to get outside and losing yardage vs busting up the middle for 5 solid yards, he had been told how to run i guess he was ignoring instuctions in the ravens debacle, no names were mentioned but you have to assume they were talking about Ajayi
There were some pictures that one site published where you could see it clearly. I saw it msyelf in the game a few times. He has been doing it a bunch this year and he has lost yardage or got stalemated on a lot of those. He might have hit a couple of big ones too, but most of the time he wasnt. Maybe he was desperate, maybe he wanted to help so bad he went off script, but he wasnt getting what Gase is saying, you hurt us more even if sometimes it feels like your helping. If he did the job he was supposed to, later int hegame he would have been gashing them. Its a Chess game, there is no straight to checkmate without the other team does something hella stupid (like the TD we should have had from Williams screen play).
D,
It doesn’t even matter. This is a clusterf*ck any way you slice it. What a joke.
we had the worst offense in the league and of the worse in franchise history. How much bigger of a clusterf*ck can it get?
A lot worse and lets hope we dont get to find out just how much worse it could be.
Oh sorry i think i was replying before i actually saw the full context of your post. I thought you were referring to Omar and his assertion of short shelf life.
To the rest of the assertion, yeah we arent focused on football right now. It might be the way this season happened. I mean Hurricane, Awol, no bye, trip to Cali then London then NJ, just a bunch of distractions. Best Gase can do right now if grab everyone attention (looks liek they did that) and then get everyone back to being focused on their jobs. Maybe this was a time to teach through fear. Maybe the assholes on the team are a little puckered up right now.
The Flying Pig says:
October 31, 2017 at 11:55 am
doing cocaine off a hooker’s ass
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ocalarob says:
October 31, 2017 at 11:59 am
I bet he’s glad she didn’t FART!
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I think im going to go with, i dont care if cocaine is involved or not, farting hooker doesnt really spell good time for me.
I think the more interesting point to ponder would be, if you were doing anal, and she farted, would it come out your ass, or would you be propelled off of her like a nerf dart. Anyone had this experience, maybe at the La Quinta?
Gase is going to this well too often. When does he take responsibility for allowing this shit to go on for months and months? That’s his fault. Why is nobody holding him accountable for allowing this culture to exist? It didn’t just come out of nowhere in the last week.
its kind of amazing that just a couple of weeks ago he didn’t know one of his coaches was on cocaine in team meetings and now we are all supposed to trust his judgment
That’s what I said initially. I would rather have Gase corrected Ajayi rather than trading him, but maybe Ajayi just wasn’t listening. We don’t know what transpired, but if Gase couldn’t get Ajayi on track, my guess was it’s on Ajayi.
I don’t know – I don’t have faith in Gase right now
The offense is shit. He vouches for Cutler. The Foerrester incident was insane and now he trading away good players.
I doubt trading Ajayi is about making the offense better, What happens when we get shutout of another half Sunday night. People will blame Gase. Its about to get ugly
Mike E. says:
October 31, 2017 at 12:01 pm
Of course it happened after this past week, I’m not saying otherwise. I think that’s what prompted Gase to want to get rid of him. I just don’t think we would have gotten better compensation no mater what. I think we got max return on Ajayi.
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Rules of business say that if there is pressure to sell, the price goes down. I think he wanted him GONE, and i think Philly knew it, ie we reached out to them. Lower the pressure of the sale, the better the compensation. We werent getting their second, they didnt have a third, they could have packaged up other picks because they had 3 4ths, they could have packaged a player (we might would have wanted Blount as a replacement for Ajayi, unless we already had in mind we wanted to bring up Smith, i think we would have had more leverage for a better investment. Again, though neither you or i can go much further in this as far as proving one or the other correct so with that i bid you good day sir…..i say GOOD DAY SIR! 🙂
Here’s my gobstopper . . .
Piggy – I don’t really look at the Foerster thing as Gase’s fault. I do understand losing faith in Gase, because he was supposed to bring our offense to new heights, not new lows. We’ll have to stand by, and wait and see which way things go.
Let’s face it that one of the reasons why we are not running the ball so well this season is that we are not as good at throwing the ball with either Cutler or Moore. This offense misses Tannehill as much as some of you guys don’t want to admit it.
It does all build off the other. Perhaps though if he picked up blockers as he was assigned to do, that also could have been better. The exact point Gase makes is that if you dont do your part, if you go off script, then the playbook doesnt work, the game plan doesnt work, other people then have to compensate which makes their part not work, so on and so forth.
Not sure if it’s the chicken or the egg Ken. When we didn’t run well last year, Tannehill wasn’t good then either. I’m not dissing Tannehill, I just remember how it went down. The blocking has been awful. Ajayi was getting hit behind the LOS, and our playcalling has been vanilla as hell, because gase pulled a lot back. Is that the players fault of the Coach? The O-line or the RB? THe QB or the RB? Probably all of the above.
There were several games last year where we couldn’t run and Tannehill carried the team. Right now no one respects our ability and teams are just stacking the box to shut Ajayi. Last year teams were not doing that
The Flying Pig says:
October 31, 2017 at 12:13 pm
its kind of amazing that just a couple of weeks ago he didn’t know one of his coaches was on cocaine in team meetings and now we are all supposed to trust his judgment
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I dont know that its that impossible to have missed it Piggy. I dont know if you have had many experience with friends or colleagues that use drugs, and i wouldn’t say im an expert, but i have known a few and they pull it off sometimes really well. Hell id bet money i would get suspected for being a cocaine user when i have never done it once in my life, some people are high strung and he might have always been seen that way. A habitual user also doesn’t show it nearly like a new user, so maybe he had just learned to take an amount that would get him high but not jump off the page at ya.
I cant say i trust his judgement 100% but his presser made me feel different about it. If you recall i was calling him out hard for not calling a better game and not having the team under control. After the presser though i got a real feeling of a guy who has been trying to settles things out and just hasnt been able to find that angle to get through to a player i think he really didnt want to see gone. I think if he had been a Thomas or Turner type, he would have already been dealt with, and maybe he thought he saw signs of him turning things around to just a have a relapse game the next one after. He seemed worn down to his last option from what i saw there.
Now i think you can fault him for letting it go this far, but again, its Ajayi who put up such great number last year, who is capable fo things most backs arent, so maybe you fault him for not being able to find his way to Ajayi to fix this, but some, if not most of that kind of stuff is on the maturity of the player and should also be part of the respect the player has for his coach, ie authority figures. Is it Gase, yeah partially, but a lot, if not the majority of the other players seem to respect him and do their part, so maybe it was a bad apple they had to get out of the bunch, because it was already spoiling others. IMO Thomas is another one that needs to go too.
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I grew up in Miami
everyone who knows anything about cocaine knows when you are on cocaine
Piggy
I was always a pretty hyper person. I can’t say for sure, but my guess would be it would have been hard to tell when I was coked up
you are coked up right now!!!
I wouldn’t mid if I was, but it’s been a looong time since I have been
Its funny the things you guys say in the offseason when you’re full of hope, versus the things you say now when reality is punching you in the face.
The Flying Pig says:
October 31, 2017 at 12:28 pm
D
I grew up in Miami
everyone who knows anything about cocaine knows when you are on cocaine
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Didnt grow up in Miami, but i did grow up in Florida. I have been around coke heads and some of them, i was stll the more typical of the behavior than they were lol. I know a bunch of them that other than maybe the way their eyes looked would have given them away. Maybe some of the initial sweating, but if they had a bump 5-10 minutes before a class they would pass for completely sober.
Sorry was meant as a reply to Piggy,
Dolphins LB Kiko Alonso will not be suspended for his hit on Joe Flacco.
The news comes from NFL spokesperson Joe Lockhart. Alonso was penalized for hitting Flacco in the head with his forearm while the quarterback was sliding last Thursday night, and the league apparently felt that was punishment enough. Alonso will suit up this Sunday night against the Raiders.
I expected this, IMO his was the less egregious of all the so called flagrant fouls. He could have not leaned in with his shoulder, so i agree he should have gotten penalized, but i don’t think Head was the target, i don’t think that to injure was his purpose, so fine, sure, suspension, no way.
It’s also the history of the player. Alonso has always been a clean player, so that plays into it too.
Yeah, but outside John Lynch, and maybe Swearinger, which i still havent forgiven for that hit on Keller in PS
Sorry should have read, but outside…. ….i would have given most players a pass on that hit.
Ken,
Tannehill has never been a difference maker sort of QB. I doubt he’d have made a big difference because he never has. Of course, it hurts to lose your starting QB, but it’s not like he’s a proven winner or anything. I thought this was an 8 win +/- 1 this year with Tannehill. This offense goes as our running game goes. Tannehill has rarely pulled a win out of a losing situation.
Offense was markedly better last year with only one significant change in personnel
Short shelf life was not why Ajayi was traded IMO. Remember last year Gase put Ajayi in the doghouse for the Seattle game. Ajayi came on for us afterwards, but that’s not happening this year, and Gase essentially gave up on Ajayi, and possibly the season, just take the pick next year and let the chips fall where they may.
If we only win 5 or 6 games this year, We will be in good draft position for Josh Allen or someone that can help . RT may or may not be our future franchise QB, We need to try for one to push or replace him.
I really don’t think we’re drafting a QB in the 1st 2 rounds next year. maybe in 2019 but not next year. It’s tanny or cutler next year.
Tranny or cutler sounds like fruitcake or cranberry sauce, lol
Where’s the meat and potatoes? Lol
Get with the program or you’re gone. Next man up. Apparently there was much more going on we never heard about. Bits and pieces will come out over time. RBs are a dime a dozen.
GO PHINS
FWIW
A lot of us were also upset about letting Miller go
Ken, i think part of it is also the LG to LT swap and health of Tunsil that has hurt it some. All these QB’s we have had are flawed in their own way. I think the plus of Tannehill is his attitude. Cutler starts to lose focus, and things go downhill fast, Tanny keeps things going better. Im not going to say its leadership, but more just attitude. So i agree with you, but i also thng there is more at play than just one person swap.
As a random thought, I also didnt know Jay Cutler was diabetic until very recently, and being diabetic myself, i think that plays a lot into what goes on out there with him. I dont think i could play effectively now that i have developed diabetes. I might would get away with it playing the OL, but no frigging way could i play at QB, at an NFL level. Im not even sure id be able to play OL, but it would be significantly easier than QB.
I also dont know how far its progressed with him, but the necrosis in the legs, feet and hands, the possible damage to the retina from diabetic retinopathy, the fluctuation in blood sugar when your exerting yourself and how that screws with your balance, etc. Cloudiness in your brain if your sugar drops low. That would make for a really rought time reading defenses while escaping the pocket on legs that aren’t getting great blood flow, etc.
If these things are affecting him, i would really think about retiring again, these are things that generally get better, they might not deterioate as badly if your sugar is in check, but injuries dont heal as well, etc. He might have made a bad choice, just with his own health in mind to come back to football.
all I can say is “WTF?” Landry is on market as well. I do remember the announcers during our recent game saying the Ajayi and Landry were “very vocal” with Gase and how he joked that it was good cuz they balance each other.
Could simply be a ‘young coach’ caught in a pissing contest that a more experienced coach wouldn’t have entered.
Landry isnt on the market, thats reporter whooey. Dolphins let Landry know he wasnt on the market. (now truth of that we will see when the trade deadline is over lol)
ocalarob says:
October 31, 2017 at 11:08 am
I guess we’re folding up the tent this year??
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I thought it blew away 😉
LOL UK, that was FFR’s tent. 🙂
LMAO — quip of the day so far.
Ken,
We had a change at LT who’s playing like crap. A change at LG, and none of them has played well. An injured C who has struggled. We have a RB, evidently, not doing as he’s coached. We are also playing better teams this year….and it’s only gonna get worse. People seem to forget how poorly this offense performed last year because we managed to win 10 games. But, I knew somebody would go there eventually. Lol
David C (@DolphinsSB52) says:
October 31, 2017 at 12:44 pm
Tranny or cutler sounds like fruitcake or cranberry sauce, lol
Where’s the meat and potatoes? Lol
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Meat and potatoes are there with Tranny….. Maybe even some melons if the transition is started but not fully completed.
If Gase is trying to send a signal to the rest of the team, he should have traded Ajayi to Cleveland, NOT a 7-1 first place team. lol
A 0-7 team wouldnt make a trade offer for a player that might help them finish 6-10. Only teams like Philly or maybe even some like Detroit who are just a wiggle away from jumping into the playoffs make sense for stuff like that.
Besides, Belichick had already set that precedence, Gase would be so last year if he did that and he likes to set the newest fashion trends.
The Flying Pig says:
October 31, 2017 at 12:46 pm
FWIW
A lot of us were also upset about letting Miller go
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Its a little different when they aren’t resigning them because they are going to cost 7-8million a year to get them signed. I think this trade, and how it happened makes it feel worse, because its like taking an ascending start and letting him go for what seems like a low round trade, when he was costing us next to nothing in cap space, etc. I think it would feel 100% different if it were happening in FA and we werent re-signing him because another team snatched him up for 7+ mil.
maybe last year’s early season issue makes Gase think there is a ‘pattern’. At least ND is playing well. 🙂
Ive heard your Coaches name mentioned in my teams coaching replacement rumors. Its not one of the stronger ones that i have heard but its been thrown around.
Mike i bet there are people here that think im coked up most the time, and they havent even met me in person lol.
LOL 🙂
I assumed you are high on wombat juice
ocalarob says:
October 31, 2017 at 11:08 am
I guess we’re folding up the tent this year??
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I thought it blew away 😉
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Mike E. says:
October 31, 2017 at 1:02 pm
LOL UK, that was FFR’s tent. 🙂
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I mean, when something has a chance to escape FFR it takes it……
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article181846146.html
Pre Seahawks Ajayi was back……
But going with Gase — as nice as he is — don’t take crap and is willing to cut ties quick, but then he also keeps his favorites (Stills, Jones, etc) as well. Not so different from the evil genius and his long-term planning.
D:
I am a diabetic also. If properly maintained there is no reason why Cutler shouldn’t be able to play at a high level. Now he is type 1 which is a little harder to control than type 2 but it also means he has been dealing with it all his life. He is also probably too young for diabetic neuropathy to be a significant issue in his life
Sigh….
Is that a sigh of relief, or a sigh of woe?
Willy willy
some of the Color Rush are nice , most not so much.. Ajayi, at least ya got over 10 gaes out of it.. So I Vote DJ as a complete waste..
Did not see this one coming.. but based on what say about not following direction I guess I get it.. Would have liked to see some Immediate help with a player somewhere.. who knows maybe there is a side deal on the table for after season.. I dunno.. Next man indeed…Lets Go Ducky !!!! ,
I think Adam Gase is losing the team. He should have just benched Ajayi as he did last year if he wanted to send a message and get positive results. We had two more years of cheap labor with a Pro-Bowl RB in Ajayi with our salary cap in dire straights.
Getting a mere 4th Rounder in return is an INSULT to Ajayi’s talent, to our team and it’s future, and to our fans. Looks like Ajayi will get his first Super Bowl ring before Cam Wake… and that upsets me. This is Gase cutting his nose off to spite his face.
Adam Gase… STRIKE ONE
We don’t know what has been happening behind closed doors. They watch the tape, they know the play calls and they see the attitude.
If guy can’t figure out what to do after 2 years and is possibly a cancer in the locker room……see ya.
RBs are a dime a dozen.
We’d better hope Drake can be the man.
WWBD
https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2017/10/31/16581132/jay-ajayi-eagles-instant-reactions-analysis-philadelphia-nfl-miami-dolphins-contract-draft-pick-news
“The Eagles got a steal”
Dammit, yea, they did, SMH
Chicken Little’s – Are the Dolphins not 4 and three? A winning record?
Our Phins are 10-0 when Ajayi rushed over a mere 77 yards in a game. We’re going to miss him.
We are 4-3 WITH Ajayi.
It’s Too early to have a w/l record for after the trade, but take a look at our upcoming games,,,, it gets much tougher, and we are one running back shorter to do it
If you have a player who cannot be controlled, is not interested in doing his part or buying into the way the team is being run, then you aren’t losing anything. When it comes to a foundation for success, there has to be commitment by the leaders of the team. I am sure Ajayi had accepted his position as the star back, but i dont think he had accepted his place as a team leader. He apparently was also spreading dissention in the locker room. I dont have a problem with the move, though i do agree you cant lose a player of his talent and not miss them. I put this up there with trading Stabby and cutting Wallace. Both of those guys were addition by subtraction, both cost us something in the process too.
The site administrators should screen capture these posts and replay them at the end of the season.
I’m all good with that. I’m extremely confident with my past record of calling it how I see it.
I’m figuring that Gase feels any player that does his assignment is better than one that doesn’t. So any RB on the roster that does what he’s supposed to do is already an upgrade.
Ajayi wasn’t the problem with our running game… our O-LINE is the bloody problem. I only outlined it yesterday, peeps.
Now if there was an internal rift between Ajayi and Gase/the whole team, I get it… but NOT for a mere 4th Rounder in return.
No matter how ya slice it, this was a BAD trade in terms of value at the very least.
M13, OL wasnt helping things but there were plenty of times where Ajayi adlib’d the play. You call it making something out of nothing btu a lot of times it made less than nothing out of nothing. On top of that it screwed up probably 4-5 more plys down the line, because IT WASNT THE PLAY THAT WAS CALLED. You cant give Ajayi a free pass. The OL has not been good, but go back and look at several of the plays he failed on and you are going to see, there was something there that might have only gotten 3 yards at best, but it would have been better than the -1 he got us doing his thing.
Sorry, Bro. I merely disagree. Ajayi’s YAC is among the league’s best… he’s CONSTANTLY getting hit behind the LOS due to a porous O-Line, IMO.
The Mando article was saying he was complaining even after wins about his number of carries, etc. It said he openly complained to other players in the locker room. He never sat down and talked with Gase, so he had already made up his mind he didn’t want to play ball with the HC. Thats a pretty stupid move, especially with a guy like Gase who has shown team has to be before self. If he had tried as hard to do what his coach was asking him to do as he did trying to pump up his stats, mabe we would be at least the 30th ranked offense lol. You cant ignore your boss, it doesnt work in any profession.
DW looked really bad at pass protection last week, not boding well for pass protection.
IF he starts , we will have to account for his poor pass blocking on third downs, or Moore will get hammered.
I don’t know if Drake can block or not, haven’t seen enough. He does have a motor though, I wouldn’t mind seeing him get more carries, but We may struggle even more in the passing game without Ajayi blocking for us.
Damien is going to be the 3rd down back in most of the empty backfield situations moving forward. I bet if we move Smith up from the PS, he takes over for most of the options where it more pass pro then slip out as an outlet receiver packages. I wouldnt be surprised to see Drake on most downs, and possibly even in on those 3rd down packages as well.
Mike,
I guess a sigh of confusion? I don’t have all the info in front of me, but at face value many of the personnel moves this team makes leave me perplexed. Ajayi may have been difficult, but just give your most productive offensive player away for pennies on the dollar? Signing Cutler when we had Moore ready to go. Overpaying a lot of our FAs in hopes they exceed previous production. Most of the trades we make are questionable and on the surface look like we lost value. We are usually a major player in FA and that typically backfires for most teams.
There just doesn’t seem to be a stable, consistent direction for how this team is run. It all boils down to putting a ton of faith in Gase. Yes, we’ve been amazing in close games and have a good record to show for it. I’m not certain that will last.
Who knows, maybe this is just another step to establish a culture and get the right guys in the locker room. We will see…
Matt Moore is not a starting caliber QB. Never has been. And a non-team player in a team sport (Ajayi) isn’t worth keeping.
So blow all your cap space on a guy out of the NFL who may be worse than Cutler? Don’t try to tell me Cutler is a starting caliber QB. He was out of the league.
Gase and culture is what you have to hope in. Not as much on him as the master O guy right now, but liking as a HC how he has handled all the bumps in this year so far.
Moore is a backup, Cutler can be argues as not panning out, or paying too much for what we got, but Moore was not, and should not, every have been an option for us going into the season, as our starting QB…..UNLESS we were tanking the season.
Could they have worked things out with Ajayi….maybe but it sounds like he has spent 2 years trying to, and hadnt made much progress or at very least, it looped back around to where it started. Im assuming there was a lot we dont know about how much Gase tried, and we also dont knwo how hard headed Ajayi was being. We only know it didnt work out and we got in trade what was being offered.
Ajayi was a popular player but he wasnt the end all be all of RB’s. I liked how he took hits to runners, but if i was in Gase’s position, and assuming Gase isnt a liar and the shit he was saying was true, i would have gotten less for Ajayi than we did because i would have asked for us to cut him. Im not letting one player on my team dictate what i as the HC decided to do, its simple as that.
I probably wouldn’t have been stupid enough to call it “inmates running the prison”, but its definitely letting a player make the calls. There may be those here that may be ok with that, but im not. Lets just let Ajayi do whatever he wants, feed him the ball as many times as he asks, just to appease him at the detriment of the TEAM’s game plan…umm no.
Guys, let’s not call other posters out for their mere opinions. It’s all good to agree to disagree. Dialogue is all good, too! But there’s no need to call other people names.
Who called someone else a name?
“CHICKEN LITTLE’S”
That was a general statement against pessimists. When I call someone a name it’s generally pretty direct. Usually like “You are a dumbass!”
Interesting…if you use the with something in between, it doesn’t show up in your post. That should have read ‘You Insert Name are a dumbass.”
Geez…you can’t even use the symbol!
Okay, this is ridiculous. The symbols that I am trying to use are the greater than/less than.
M13, what im saying, and you may be right, we have to disagree, is that Ajayi would have made yards had he hit the right hole.
Some of it was simplified offense and the defense knew what we were doing and flowed with us to the ball, but according to Gase thats also on Ajayi because he had to dumb it down for him, or at least felt he needed to since he missed his assignments on more complex plays.
There are examples out there where he did it, all you have to do is look for them. Im not making it up.
You’re not making anything up, man: I realize that Ajayi has made some mistakes, as we ALL do. I still feel this is more on the ’17 O-Line than on Ajayi, but that’s just me and my $.02.
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No disrespect but can’t believe Dolphins just giving RB duties to Kenyan Drake, Damien Williams, Senorise Perry – none proven. #4pmdeadline
Nobody is proven until given the chance
A 4th RD pick is a lot these days for a RB. You’d have to look far and wide to see better draft compensation for a RB, especially one that had 1 good season, and 1 sub par season.
Like i said to you earlier, its not awful compensation, though i think we could have gotten a little more and by that i mean Blount in trade or maybe a 5th in addition to the 4th.
I disagree on the 4th Round compensation. Why? We’re talking about a young back with immense upside. Yeah, he didn’t do squat in his rookie season… but in his sophomore season? The rest is history. Ajayi is coming off a Pro-Bowl season in only his second season. We’re not talking about an ‘aged’ back like AP.
JMO… we should’ve fetched a 3rd Rounder (top-100 pick).
Stanger,
I agree. We are stuck placing all our faith in Gase. Also agree with you that I like his style. He seems to have a nice balance of player coach/authority figure. I think he wants to be smarter than other teams on offense. Manning allowed him to do that, but it seems like we don’t have the right players on offense to accomplish that. Maybe we do, but our line sucks so bad it’s impossible to accomplish anything. The simplified offense is a huge red flag for sure.
Obviously O-Line is the major deficit right now…..but we knew that going into FA and the draft. And Gase let them go almost all D even if it was his baby so to speak. He’s frustrated as heck for good reason….but then the D sure does look a whole lot better too.
“Dolphins linebacker Kiko Alonso and defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh will not be suspended, but both could still be fined for their actions.” That leaves Hayes and his eye poke as far as next game and the paddle.
I think they probably have grounds. It was intentional and it was deliberate as far as getting his finger to the face of the guy. I still thinkit was to poke his finger in the face but not eye gouge, but thats the whole thing… if your intention was to do no harm then you should have kept your hand out of a place that could do harm.
We knew a shake up was happening. My take is that Gase knowing the personality didn’t want to take a chance benching and opted to just move on. So be it. 1 RB doesn’t make a team.
GO PHINS
Mike,
There’s what, a 30% chance a fourth round pick develops into a reliable starter? Once Ajayi is an UFA he’s probably gone so we get that in return for 1 1/2 years of production.
It just seemed to me that we were going for a title with all the FA signings and money spent. We are a worse team for the next two years with Ajayi gone and he was not a cap space eater. Maybe it’s addition by subtraction for chemistry/locker room reasons, but talent-wise we are worse. No arguing that.
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Maybe his talent didn’t make up for blown assignments? More a liability than asset. Maybe the film shows all the yards that was left on the field. Maybe for all the good tackle breaking plays there are more plays left on the field that weren’t made.
Well, Ajayi was a 5th RD pick, and sometimes, especially with running backs, they fall for various reasons. Don’t sweat it.
DRG,
The success of 4th round backs has improved over the years. There is a good percentage of RB’s who are 4th rounders that put up good numbers. Ajayi’s numbers werent un-godly, lets not try to make it something its not. 1200+ yards is a great season in a RB committee world, but we didnt really do RB by committee so its kinda expected that he should have those numbers to be called a good back. David Johnson was a mid-to-late 3rd, Demarco Murray was a mid third, Miller was a 4th, Morris was a 6th, Devonta Freeman was a 4th, Jordan Howard was a 5th, Collins who just ran all over us was a supplemental 5th, Kamara for the saints was a 3rd, Hunt was a 3rd…. Id take any of those guys over Ajayi, they have proved as much or more than he has as far as a career.
Its not unheard of of finding that guy, but i hate to have lost finding a guy we thought would be a long term solution and then traded him, but obviously he wasnt the long term solution. I dont know a HC we could have right now that would be ok with one of his most important players absolutely refusing to play to his plan. If we did have a coach like that im sure we would be screaming to replace him after first half of a season.
D,
Teams put up with difficult players all the time as long as their production outweighs the headache. Ajayi wasn’t producing this year, but I wouldn’t place the blame on him. Our blocking is awful. RBs get hit in the backfield almost every attempt.
Miami was in a crappy situation with the timing of the Tannehill injury. To think that Cutler or anyone else available would be an upgrade over Moore was wishful thinking. At least we didn’t give up any assets to get him and the cap hit is only this year. If it was me though, I ride with Moore and try to build the team with a long term vision.
drg
I totally agreed with the Cutler signing. We got a starting QB without making a trade or ruining future cap space. We couldn’t stand pat with just Moore and either Doughty or Fales, we needed an alternative to Moore, and Cutler being available was the best scenario for us.
As far as Ajayi, we don’t know how far his insubordination went, but we can guess by the trade it went pretty far. Getting a 4th RD pick for a RB these days is more than fair compensation. He wasn’t the answer for us this year, despite having great success last year. I think the O-line is the main culprit in many cases, but regardless, he wasn’t getting it done, so maybe Drake and Williams can give us what Ajayi did or more. The fact is, Gase is not going to tolerate insubordination, so either you'[re with him, or you’re outta town. I don’t really have a problem with that if the team is successful, because if it’s not, then part of the reason for people not getting along with the coach may be on the coach. He did a great job last year, so I think he deserves a little leeway right now.
Stanger,
We had to address the defense. Run defense was historically bad and talent was low. It’s really tricky to balance the goal to win now with building towards the future. Seems like the majority of our moves were in an effort to win immediately. That’s why this move makes little sense unless they are tanking the season from here on out.
For the record, I don’t think we are a title contender and would have preferred we operate that way for now. Hard to figure what direction the team is headed in based on the moves they make.
Phelon,
It’s all good, man. I simply don’t like this trade from a FO standpoint, that’s all.
Some will blindly follow Gase, some will automatically be against Gase no matter what he does, some hate Ajayi, some love Ajayi, etc, etc.
From one fellow lifer of our Phins (ME) to another (YOU), I hope this works out in the end for us (OBVIOUSLY!). I just think we hurt ourselves today… I certainly hope I’m wrong. I’ll take being wrong a MILLION times over if it means we get back to the Super Bowl, Brother.
I’m wrong every day trying to get them there!
😀
😆
ALL GOOD, BRO ER!!!
Mike E. says:
October 31, 2017 at 3:02 pm
Well, Ajayi was a 5th RD pick, and sometimes, especially with running backs, they fall for various reasons. Don’t sweat it.
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We ALL know why Ajayi fell to the 5th Round (bone-on-bone). Perhaps that was a factor, but his stats/performance/health has not reflected as much.
I don’t sweat $#!t unless it comes to death, taxes, or… Shakira, Fergie, Stacy Dash, J-Lo, etc, etc. 😉
I know it was bone on bone, but what’s the difference? Guys like him slip every year. Alex Collins,, Jordan Howard, Marlon Mack, Aaron Jones etc etc etc
Mike,
Those are good arguments. I like Gase. I hope he is the guy we think he is. My frustration is mainly the inconsistency. I realize you can’t just tank with talented guys on your team and a coaching staff that is trying to win, but pick a direction and stick with it.
DRG,
The success of 4th round backs has improved over the years. There is a good percentage of RB’s who are 4th rounders that put up good numbers. Ajayi’s numbers werent un-godly, lets not try to make it something its not. 1200+ yards is a great season in a RB committee world, but we didnt really do RB by committee so its kinda expected that he should have those numbers to be called a good back. David Johnson was a mid-to-late 3rd, Demarco Murray was a mid third, Miller was a 4th, Morris was a 6th, Devonta Freeman was a 4th, Jordan Howard was a 5th, Collins who just ran all over us was a supplemental 5th, Kamara for the saints was a 3rd, Hunt was a 3rd…. Id take any of those guys over Ajayi, they have proved as much or more than he has as far as a career.
Its not unheard of of finding that guy, but i hate to have lost finding a guy we thought would be a long term solution and then traded him, but obviously he wasnt the long term solution. I dont know a HC we could have right now that would be ok with one of his most important players absolutely refusing to play to his plan. If we did have a coach like that im sure we would be screaming to replace him after first half of a season.
Agreed on the RB compensation, but it seems like we are trying to come up with reasons for letting a very good player go. Almost all of his production comes after contact. Will be interesting to see how he does in Philly.
I hope he does well, there is no reason we shouldnt want for one of our former players to have success elsewhere. I do feel though i hope this at least opens his eyes to the need to be a team player, so that he can reach the levels he should, and not wind up one of those guys who always bounce around the league with someone thinking he could be a reclamation project.
Just wanted to vent a little today. Glass half full version:
Gase is purging the locker room of me first personalities. Wants smart, dedicated, talented players that will lead team in the future and it takes time to build that. We addressed many of the defensive issues last season. OL is the priority this coming year. Get Tannehill healthy and surround him with a solid line plus players that are assignment sound and can adjust on the fly based on defensive looks.
Thats my version, at last this time. I think he tried to get Ajayi to see the big picture that this is not a me and my stats or carries or whatever, and he couldn’t get him there so he decided that it was affecting the team and he made the move. I could see Landry being similar, but i do feel Landry is more me first in a “get me the ball” because i can carry the team mentality, and i think he just needs to understand that he cant, and the rest of the team must contribute like he is. They need to him to not carry the team so the rest of the team can be responsible for carrying their share. Then he elevates the team, not carries it.
The Flying Pig says:
October 31, 2017 at 12:45 pm
you are coked up right now!!!
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I stopped doing Coke, i’m more of an unsweet tea guy, Coke is too sweet!
Between trading down to #13 with Philly and giving them the opportunity to go get Wentz rather than doing it ourselves and now trading Ajayi to Philly for only a 4th rd pick the Phins front office seems hell bent on helping Philly to win a championship.
Mike E. says:
October 31, 2017 at 3:16 pm
I know it was bone on bone, but what’s the difference? Guys like him slip every year. Alex Collins,, Jordan Howard, Marlon Mack, Aaron Jones etc etc etc
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What’s the difference, you ask, between someone with a medical red flag vs perfect health? C’MON, BRO!!! LOL
I mean, Ajayi was going in the 2nd Round until revelations came out about his bone-on-bone knee!
You’re missing my point, There are 4th and 5th RD stud RB’s in every draft. My point was who cares why they slipped to that RD, the point is they’re always AVAILABLE. That’s what I’m saying bro
Got ya, Bro! But I’d tell ya this… you speak the truth… WHEN one has an O-Line to make an UDFA like Arian Foster a STUD.
I maintain that our O-Line is KILLING us, bud.
drg, M
I watched some of the KC game last night. They have crazy ass formations that they constantly put out there, and they look like a well oiled machine. If guys aren’t doing what they’re supposed to, the machine breaks down. It’s been said that Gase had to scale back the offense, and yet, mistakes were rampant. Of course Ajayi can’t be the only one, but maybe he was the one most often blowing his assignment. If that’s the case, it’s understandable that they shipped him out.
I hear that… but it’s a difficult pill to swallow after Ajayi’s RAMPANT success last year. Beware the ‘coach speak’, for we’d never have made the playoffs last year without Ajayi. JMO
He was amazing last year, I could never argue against that. He’s been pretty far from amazing this season though, whether it’s no fault of his own or not.
Don’t get me wrong – I LOVED the J-Train man! I really loved to watch him play, he was one of my favorites. What’s done is done, and I don’t think we got ripped off as far as compensation is concerned. We’ll find out how much of a mistake it was or wasn’t by how we perform w/o Ajayi, and how he performs the rest of his career, and what we get in next years draft with that pick.
I don’t think the inference is that you didn’t like Ajayi
Frankly I think RBs are pretty replaceable
But we watched Ajayi struggle this year. we have not seen any success from any RBs this year, We watched 2 Qbs struggle, we know the OL has been issues for years, the OL coach was changed a few weeks ago –
Kind of seems like a productive player is taking the blame for a bigger problem that isn’t going away
D: I was half waiting/hoping that Blount was gonna be included as well..
ALAS>>
It’s 3:30……do you know where your top wideout is? 🙂
Sitting at home not sweating the trad deadline.
Philbin sends guys packing he’s a douchebag who can’t handle them.
Gase sends guys packing he’s sending a message.
I didn’t have a problem with him sending Stabby packing, or Wallace for that matter. I actually agree completely with both of them. In fact, I dont know that i had real issues with how he managed the players except the fact he 100% couldn’t relate to any of them and didn’t have the respect of any of them.
I think what came out about how he managed Tanny and how he seemingly tried to tank things with him just to get someone else was kind of shitty. I’m not in love with Tanny as our QB, and i did really like Carr as well, but i think if you have a guy, and your bosses want you to stick with him, then frigging sack up and make the best out of it. I didn’t dislike Philbin until some of that shit came out. It made a lot of things make sense, but it really made how i felt about him as a coach, that much worse.
Fuck man, there are so many good posts to read here, it’s like eating a steak in a fine restaurant. Then while your eating that delicious, succulent steak, you read a Professor Lou post, and it’s like finding a fucking fungus laden toenail in your steak. SHEESH!
the truth hurts. this team is still a dumpster fire. the naïve optimism is ridiculous. I get that fans want to be hopeful the team is going in the right direction and keep throwing out that 13-5 over the last 18 shit and the 4-3, tied for last wc spot, nonsense but the team is still shit from top to bottom
This front office is still a joke and will be until someone figures something out and what that something is I really don’t know but it’s pretty obvious that when you send Ajayi in a trade for a 4th rd pick these guys really suck at what they do.
Says you . . .
Prof Lou — you bring some of the best football insight on the board. Not sure why you feel the need for the gasoline on the fire thing, but we each have our own way to go in life.
Mike,
it’s the same shit, different day. team is going nowhere. AGAIN.
Mike E. says:
October 31, 2017 at 3:28 pm
He was amazing last year, I could never argue against that. He’s been pretty far from amazing this season though, whether it’s no fault of his own or not.
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YESSIR!!! I present to ya, Brother…
Albert- Tunsil- Pouncey- Bushrod- James in ’16
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Tunsil- Steen- Pouncey- Bushrod- James in ’17
Believe me, I know the O-line is sucking ass, and injuries haven’t helped us there either. Hoping Larsen will be a difference maker when he’s healthy, and hopefully that’s very soon! Tunsil has ben hurting all season it seems, and his play at LT shows it.
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Eagles exec VP Howie Roseman says LeGarrette Blount remains starting RB. So if Ajayi wasn’t happy at times while starting …
The Flying Pig says:
October 31, 2017 at 3:31 pm
I don’t think the inference is that you didn’t like Ajayi
Frankly I think RBs are pretty replaceable
But we watched Ajayi struggle this year. we have not seen any success from any RBs this year, We watched 2 Qbs struggle, we know the OL has been issues for years, the OL coach was changed a few weeks ago –
Kind of seems like a productive player is taking the blame for a bigger problem that isn’t going away
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*slapping trotters with the Pig*
GOOD POST!
I kind of like a good dumpster fire TBH, i mean where else are you going to see flames like that and not have to worry its going to burn down something meaningful. Did i mention i might be a little bit of a fire bug?
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“Zero chance” Dolphins trade WR Jarvis Landry today, per league source. Not happening.
What’s the old saying? Don’t bite off your nose to spite your face. Phins could easily get a 2nd for Landry but won’t take anything less than a 1st and in the end they’re going to let him walk for a 3rd rd compensatory pick. What a great day to be a Phins fan!!!
I deal with bi-polar depression so reading the comments on the blog gives me a good insight on what goes on inside my brain on an hour to hour basis.
i can act it out for you in continuous posts to myself if you want….or as most would say, just carry on as usual…..
D says:
October 31, 2017 at 3:36 pm
I think what came out about how he managed Tanny and how he seemingly tried to tank things with him just to get someone else was kind of shitty. I’m not in love with Tanny as our QB, and i did really like Carr as well, but i think if you have a guy, and your bosses want you to stick with him, then frigging sack up and make the best out of it.
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I totally disagree with that, if you hire me you’re expecting success, wins vs losses, if i’m using your selections and not mine then how can i be responsible for success or the failure of the team?
South Florida area already has a winner for best Halloween Costume.
I like Landry as a possession rec however he doesn’t have the ability to gain seperation and that will devalue him.
don’t forget that Philbin was part of drafting Tannehill in the first place. if he didn’t want him, then he had the ability to refuse, same with Jordan and he was on board with that pick as well.
I think at first he was on board, i think he changed his mind later… dont know why, but he definitely soured on him. I think there were assurances by his buddy and former mentor that they could work with Tanny, because he had worked with him at A&M. With him gone, and them having trouble with some of Tanny’s refinement points it became more than Philbin wanted to be shackled with,
Most miss ex-girlfriends/wives too, but it doesn’t change the reason that it is good they are an ex. Ajayi was not being a team player, Gase tried to change that feeling in him, but he kept going back to it. It was time to move on and see if they can start getting past it. Ever stayed in a relationship too long, tried over and over and over to make things work. You just wind up burned out and spent, and still you are not any closer to resolving the real issue which is….SHE ISNT THE ONE. Get over it, Ajayi isnt the one, we start looking for the one again, maybe we already have that person in Drake, maybe we have to get someone, but it wasnt working out with Gase and Ajayi and its a shit ton easier to replace a RB than a coach, and realistically that the only other choice that was present here.
This is just my opinion and I know how little it’s valued but here it goes;
1. People like to point out the number of catches Jarvis makes and then get defensive when his low ypc avg is brought up
2. When the low avg is brought up the response is usually along the lines of “it’s only that low because of the way they use him
3. if they used him differently, meaning they weren’t throwing all those short passes to him and had him running somewhat deeper routes, he’s not getting all those catches, is he?
4. he’s only as valuable as he is to Miami because other teams don’t throw all those short passes to their receivers like Miami does to Jarvis
In summary, Miami fans love to overvalue players on their team
I like Landry’s competitiveness, but im not thinking he is something he isnt. I think he means a ton to our team personally, but its goes beyond numbers. Thats said if they traded him, then they knew something i didnt and there was probably a reason for it. Im not second guessing the people closes to the problem. I might have my opinion that it was a bad move, but this shit doesnt go down without a bunch of guys getting paid a lot more than me and with all the knowledge needed to make a decision all having the same collective agreement to make that move. Thats the big picture to keep in mind, our opinions are what they are, uneducated, slightly informed, arm char Qb musings, and theirs is a professional decisions made by professionals, inside the profession.
just be careful not to give these people more credit than they deserve for being smart of being good at what they do
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Source: The #Jets are trading for #49ers CB Rashard Robinson.
Cause their starting CB now is a Skrine door.
OCRob, Philbin wasnt given that latitude, and he probably expressed that in his exit interview, hence why Gase does have that control. If he was given that control, sure year i wouldnt been pissed if they hitched me to the wagon i didnt want to be hitched to, but Philbin didnt have that control, and his refusal to act professionally, responsibility and with the team in mind, he wound up making shit worse. I cant forgive him for that.
You would think any coach like Philbin with his pedigree (at the time) would not take a job where he didn’t have full control, not having control can affect your future career in a negative way as it did his, and there’s nothing you can do about it.
They basically said as much. They said that the GM’s (ireland at firs and Hickey after) had the decision to make the personell decisions, though it was expected that when Hickey was brought it in would shift to him consulting with Philbin. When Ireland was there he made those decisions on his own, or at least thats what we were led to believe.
Good news is we get Parker and Cutler back this week
VERY GOOD news, indeed!
What if Ajayi fails his medical exam with Philly? Imagine that!
lmao…. too much Game of Thrones drama for you.
MF13, I was about to post the same thing about Blount. … Eagles plan on using Ajayi on 3rd downs. If his biggest issue was about NOT getting touches, those opportunities may now be further reduced.
On one of my last academic teams I cut the only kid from our school to be a National Merit Scholar over the span of 20 years because he was a terrible teammate… after he was gone (and threats from parents to sue me LOL) we won our first ever state title cuz kids were having fun again.
I’ve been in a bad mood all day since hearing about this trade… I get the ‘culture issue’ but it really hurts seeing talent leave when we should be collecting talent. Like you I’m hoping Williams and Drake can be some thunder and lightning…
VERY GOOD post, Rhino. I hear ya, man.