Week 16 – Game 15 – Dolphins @ Chiefs


Well Dolphins fans, The Dolphins did what they do best, lose to the Bills when they need to win to stay alive.  Yeah, the Dolphins still have a wanky outside shot of making it if they win, and a whole bunch of other crazy scenarios happen, but let’s face it, this team isn’t worthy.  It’s OK, we were dealt some bad circumstances this season, and we did what we could to plug the holes, but it just wasn’t enough.  We’re 6-8, and again well behind the Patriots, and the Bills who defeated us last week.  All is not doom and gloom though, the future isn’t so bleak for this team.

Ryan Tannehill should return as the starting QB providing he’s healthy and fully recovered from his ACL injury, and we seem to have found a RB who can do it all, run-catch-block.  At WR, until we re-sign Jarvis Landry, the overwhelming talent we thought we had may not be there.  I thought our depth of Parker, Stills, Landry, Carroo, Grant and whoever was excellent, but Parker has disappointed big time, Stills didn’t really live up to his big new contract, and Carroo is like Claude Rains (The Invisible Man for the youngin’s), and Grant, while he has shown flashes of brilliance, may not be anything more than a couple of touches a game type player.  It seems now we have to, and really should pay up for Landry, who brings it every week, and has been the good soldier this season w/o a contract extension.  We’ve also seemed to have found a reliable K for a change, Parkey has been excellent, yet underused.  Hopefully, we get what we need for the O-line, which would be an interior lineman that can not only start, but be better than average.

The defense is promising, as we get what is hopefully 2 key players back from injury, CB Tony Lippett and MLB Raekwon McMillan.  Charles Harris will be bigger and stronger and have some NFL experience, and we’ll have T.J. McDonald for the entire season.  Suh and Wake will be a year older, and maybe, at least in Wakes case, playing time should be cut back some, but Suh seems more than happy to play a ton of snaps.Do we need help at LB, where we have under contract for 2018 Alonso, Timmons, Allen, McMillan, and Anthony.  We can’t really cut Timmons, his dead cap hit is almost his entire salary ($7.2M of $8.2M), but we can reduce his role if one of the younger LB’s show they’re ready.  LB is definitely a possibility in the 2018 draft, but likely not a high priority.  The 2 young DT’s we drafted made an impact, especially Davon Godchaux, who has played quite a lot his rookie year.  Vincent Taylor to a much lesser extent, but he will get a look next year again as a depth player.  The CB’s should be pretty good, and young, with Xavien Howard, Cordrea Tankersley, Tony Lippett, Bobby McCain, Walt Aikens and Torry McTyer.

The Chiefs managed to turn things around after going into a prolonged slump,.  The Chiefs started 2017 on fire, and Alex Smith was being talked about as a league MVP candidate, but then RB Kareem Hunt apparently hit the rookie wall, along with losing S Eric Berry, and the Chiefs went from 5-0, to 6-6.  They have won 2 in a row, and are now at 8-6, and the Chiefs are usually a tough beat at home at Arrowhead, but this season, the Chiefs are just 4-3 at home, not as dominant as in the past.  We have a shot, but we can’t have Jay Cutler play as poorly as he did last week against Buffalo, and overall, the team will have to put forth a better effort.

As always, some of our fans will be rooting for a win, and some will be looking to the draft and hoping to improve our draft position.  We’ll see if this team is still hungry for the playoffs, or if they’ve packed it in for 2017.  Enjoy the game!



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523 Responses to Week 16 – Game 15 – Dolphins @ Chiefs

  1. mf13ss says:

    Merry Christmas, y’all!

  2. mf13ss says:

    I just saw a very credible mockster have both Marcus Davenport (<– man crush) and Dallas Goedert (as the 1st TE off the board) going in the 1st Round. I don't think these two small-schoolers will be flying under anybody's radar, dammit.

  3. naplesfan2010 says:

    I like Arden Key’s skill set, but he is a bit light. 6’6 and only 231. I worry about him getting swallowed by the big bears of the NFL. I don’t want anymore projects coming out of Round One. We need instant production from our first 2 picks. And a long and pro-bowl level career.

    How long would it take Key to get up to 260? which he would need at 6’6. That’s 30 pounds of muscle. That needs PEDs, and then we lose him to a suspension.

  4. naplesfan2010 says:

    I would love for Malik Jefferson to fall to us in the 2nd, but i can’t see him getting past the teams between 28-32 and then also Rnd 2 P1-10.

  5. naplesfan2010 says:

    And as for Bradley Chubb, I really dislike that guy as a person. He’s a schmuck.
    Plus he already weighs 273 at only 6’3. That lets him be man-against-boys most weeks in the ACC, but he has zero room to add weight as he gets into his mid-twenties. Does he have the speed to play NFL edge? He doesn’t have the frame to move to DT. His cousin is a RB. Bradley’s carrying 20 lbs of baby fat and has not shown any discipline to lose an ounce of it.

    • Ken says:

      I am not a big fan of Chubb either. I like Drake, Williams and maybe a mid round guy. I would rather fix the OL to help the running game

  6. mf13ss says:

    Regardless of where we end up picking, I think Quenton Nelson will be available. He’d be the BPA, fill a major need, and we’ll be set at LG for the next decade. He’ll help Tunsil become elite, Tannehill will never need worry about his blindside ever again, and it will be fun to watch Drake run through the gaping holes that he creates.

  7. mf13ss says:


  8. Mike E. says:

    Saw “The Last Jedi” yesterday. I thought it was great, very well done, enjoyed it thoroughly.

  9. naplesfan2010 says:

    Ajayi caught a TD pass.
    jus’ sayin’

  10. naplesfan2010 says:

    Go Dolphins. I want us to beat Buffalo sooooo bad.

    Also this week, we need the Packers to beat the Lions, the Bengals to beat the Ravens, the Raiders to beat the Chargers, the Cardinals to beat the Seahawks, and the Redskins to beat the Giants.

    That will put all of those teams after us in draft order. (I think.)

    All of those could happen, but of course, it is highly unlikely that all will happen.

    Also Go Jets…arrrrghh (I just threw up in my mouth.)

    • Mike E. says:

      The Bengals seem to be playing better as of late, but they won’t beat the Ravens. The Chargers are going to beat the Raiders, and there’s not a shot the Cards beat the Seahawks. I don’t see us changing our draft position radically either way, win or lose against Buffalo.

  11. Mike E. says:

    I think it’s going to be difficult to keep Julius Thomas on the roster next year. He had better not be our #1 TE, and as a 2nd TE, he won’t cut it, because he can’t block. Don’t really see him fitting here. $6.5M for him just can’t make any sense. His dead cap hit if we cut him is $2M. Nothing against him, but I hope we cut him.

  12. Tim Knight says:

    Not saying he’s the answer at TE and I don’t know much about him but it seems like Derby might be in the mix at TE. He did get open down the seam against the Chiefs on a play but Cutler totally missed him.

    • Mike E. says:

      I’m fine with Derby being “in the mix”, but I’d like to finally make an investment in a TE, and not have a slow, shell of what he used to be like Julius Thomas, or a guy that has been cut by 2 teams already be our starter. Let’s please draft a good TE early.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I agree it’s time to draft a top TE prospect and it doesn’t have to be 1st rd, but 2nd or 3rd. Maybe even double up there with one in the late rounds.

    • Ken says:

      I think he is roster fodder and not much else. There is a reason why he didn’t see playing time until week 15

  13. wyoming85 says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 14: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 14: Mason Cole, C/OT, Michigan (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 14: Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14: K.J. Malone, OG, LSU (A)
    Round 4 Pick 30: Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio (A-)
    Round 6 Pick 14: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 7: Shaun Dion Hamilton, ILB, Alabama (C+)
    Round 7 Pick 14: Arrion Springs, CB, Oregon (A)

  14. Rockphin says:

    I hope Grant continues to develop next season. He has made some BIG plays this year. Hevis exciting to watch.

  15. Mike E. says:

    Tim – Yeah, I’m not saying 1st RD, not sure if any TE will even go 1st RD this year, but 2nd or 3rd for sure.

  16. BailBondMike says:

    Mine keep coming up about same each time:

    1 – OG Nelson
    2 – TE Andrews
    3 – OLB Lorenzo Carter
    4 – TE Troy Fumagalli
    4 – DE Marcus Davenport
    6 – RB Rashaad Penny
    7 – DT Jerry Tillery
    7 – C Bradley Bozeman

  17. Rockphin says:


  18. wyoming85 says:

    Mike E I see Minkah Fitzpatrick being marked as a CB / FS

  19. BailBondMike says:

    This one I traded down three times and picked up 7 more picks, LOL. Ended up with (not in draft order)
    OG Quentin Nelson, ND
    OT/OG Braden Smith, AUB
    C Bradley Bozeman, ALA
    TE Hayden Hurst, SC
    TE Troy Fumagalli, WIS
    QB RIley Ferguson, MEM
    WR Michael Gallup, COL ST
    RB Rashaad Penny, SD ST
    ILB Roquan Smith, GA
    DE Tyquan Lewis, OH ST
    OLB/DE Marquis Haynes, MISS
    CB Tony Brown, ALA
    FS Godwin Igneguike, NW
    DT Deadrin Senat, USF

  20. BailBondMike says:

    Thanks above Naples. I was BS’ing around with that last one but I think it does prove (IMO) that trading down and still landing Nelson is the way to go. If you miss out on him there are still good interior OL options available. I like the idea of gaining more picks especially if we look to go interior OL in the first round.

  21. BailBondMike says:

    LOL @ Tim! You better believe it!

  22. wyoming85 says:

    For the BIG UGLY crowd!

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 14: Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 14: Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 14: Frank Ragnow, C/OG, Arkansas (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A)
    Round 4 Pick 30: Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio (A-)
    Round 6 Pick 14: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 7: Andrew Wingard, FS, Wyoming (A)
    Round 7 Pick 14: Arrion Springs, CB, Oregon (A)

  23. wyoming85 says:

    Tim, I guess we can argue about how terrible Tanny is?

  24. wyoming85 says:

    OH Tim!
    I was being a smart ass! Please no Tanny talk!!!!!!!!!!

  25. wyoming85 says:

    Field Yates

    Verified account

    8m8 minutes ago
    Source: former Steelers LB James Harrison is at Gillette Stadium visiting the Patriots today.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Lol. Really not good timing by the Steelers releasing him

      • Tim Knight says:

        He only played in 5 games and really didn’t do much when he played. It’s not like the Pats don’t know what the Steelers run so I don’t see that being a factor.

  26. Mike E. says:

    I think Harrison just wants to make the team, and in practice, knock Brady to tomorrow. lol

  27. Tim Knight says:

    I do believe OL is worthy of a top pick if that guy is plug and play and a stud for years to come. We keep harping on the OL struggles and if we want to protect RT and open up holes for the running game, why not? Imagine us opening up bigger holes for Drake to explode through and giving RT a second more at times. That could change the dynamic of the team quite a bit. You can still find good players at other positions in other rounds. But I still think you take BPA if they fall to you like we did with Tunsil. We weren’t looking for a LT at the time with Albert here.

    • wyoming85 says:

      I’m all for BPA!
      It’s just fun trying to figure out how to get all your needs with BPA!

      That’s the hard part

    • The Flying Pig says:

      No question OL is
      But OG?

      Is Nelson the next Zack Martin or the next Jonathan Cooper?
      Zack Martin has been a difference maker at OG – but he’s the only one that comes to kind
      There have been plenty of OGs that have not been

      If we really focus on the OL early I favor a trade down if it’s available

      • Mike E. says:

        Brandon Scherff has been excellent for the Skins

      • Mike E. says:

        Bitonio for the Browns

      • Tim Knight says:

        Is any prospect the good guy or the bad guy? You can look at it that way for every position. Maybe we won’t go OG high but we need to get better inside.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Its not so much the prospect Tim and Mike
        its the ability to make an impact

        Its true Scherff has been good

        I just think Zack Martin sets himself a part as a special player in this league
        if we are picking an OG at 11, 12 or 13 – it would be nice to know he is in that sort of blue chip territory

        Also I think if that’s what we do we have to take another OL in the next few rounds
        Try to turn around the OL in 1 draft

        I’m not against it at all
        I’m just saying I want an impact player in the 1st or at least for our draft as a whole to have an impact – and when it comes to OL, I think you treat it that way, bc the sum of the parts is a lot more valuable that the parts

  28. The Flying Pig says:

    Rhino says:
    December 25, 2017 at 12:23 pm (Edit)
    I think we’ll pick higher than 13th… kind of looking like 9th is the highest possible (if Cincy upsets Ravens)… looking like 10th overall very realistic if we lose last game. If we play spoiler for Bills then we could drop to 15th.

    Realistic range pretty much set at 9th through 15th.


    I read that chart you posted as a 99% chance we pick 10-13
    And 94% was 11-13

    Did you get that same reading

    Everything else before 10 and after 13 is less than 1%

  29. wyoming85 says:

  30. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, of course impact is important. If we added a guard who stepped in from day one and the OL was a lot better that is impact. I have no idea what our FO will do and FA will be first. But playing better up front opens it up for the playmakers to do their jobs better.

    • Mike E. says:

      I agree – I said that in a reply to Lou earlier. Yeah, we need playmakers, but get a guy that solidifies the O-line and gives the QB time, and the RB holes, you net a lot of playmakers due to better blocking.

      • Tim Knight says:

        We have playmakers. We need more at TE and depth in other areas, but we have guys who can make plays. We need to be able to run more consistently and have less pass situations where it looks like nobody blocked anyone. LOL

      • Mike E. says:

        That’s what I’m saying – If the O-line is getting it’s job done, everyone looks like a playmaker.

  31. Tim Knight says:

    I know a lot of people aren’t high on Pouncey anymore or never were, but I think he’ll be the C again in 2018. So right now I’d say this is what we’re building on.

    LT Tunsil
    C Pouncey
    RT James or Davis

    It depends on if we bring James back, we can let him walk and not pay him $9.3+M for 2018. We still need to add a stud at guard. Maybe we can get by with one who is serviceable.

    • Mike E. says:

      You don’t think Jesse Davis will end up being the RG? That’s of course assuming James is back

      • Tim Knight says:

        If James is back he will be. If not he might move to RT but Eric Smith might be in the mix at RT or RG as well. Then all the other guys who could be backups and the new additions. Asiata is the dark horse at one of the guard spots.

      • Mike E. says:

        Asiata will either be a dark horse or just put out to pasture. lol

      • Tim Knight says:

        Well the coaches have said Asiata was in a redshirt year so we’ll see. We kept him on the 53 all season so maybe that is the case and they didn’t want to expose him to the PS where he could get plucked from us.

  32. wyoming85 says:

    Adam Schefter

    Verified account

    3m3 minutes ago
    Former Steelers’ LB James Harrison is signing with the New England Patriots, per @FieldYates.

    Could lead to potential matchup of Harrison vs. Steelers in postseason.

  33. mf13ss says:

    I saw “The Last Jedi” today. I was quite disappointed by the story-line as a whole, but that’s just me as a Star Wars purist: I’m one in the VAST minority who wishes George Lucas was still writing the story, so there’s that (Disney scrapped Lucas’ stories for VII, VII, IX, if ya didn’t already know).

    It was a pretty good movie that checks all the boxes for all Star Wars fans: action, adventure, drama, and good plot… I’m glad I saw it. No spoilers from me, so go see it!

  34. mf13ss says:

    Josh Weinfuss

    Verified account

    3h3 hours ago
    UCLA QB Josh Rosen on getting drafted by certain teams, if he comes out this year: “I’d rather be a lower pick at the right team than a higher at the wrong team.”
    I think Rosen fears going to “The Mistake By the Lake”… better stay in school, kid.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      He’s clearly taking about the Browns and I don’t blame him
      they are on the verge of going 0-16
      and have only won 4 games in the last 3 seasons
      they’ve only made the playoffs twice in the last 27 years

      its an unusual kind of bad right now

      • Tim Knight says:

        Because CLE needs a QB desperately. He really shouldn’t say anything like that though. Be humble that you might be the top pick in the NFL Draft and make a difference for a team. The fanbase is great in CLE. You could be their hero.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I wouldn’t want any part of that franchise Tim
        its more than just not having a QB
        Look at some of their crazy moves the last few years

    • The Browns get Rosen and Barkley and they’re competing for the division in 2 yrs

  35. people want to protect Tannehill? Not me. Lol

  36. MF,
    NIU on deck on ESPN. I know you’re high on one of their LB’s but have you seen Sutton Smith play this year?

  37. wyoming85 says:

    James Harrison

    Verified account

    26m26 minutes ago
    Finally… A teammate that’s older than me!😂😂 tombrady @ Gillette Stadium https://www.instagram.com/p/BdLjIUrgQd7/

  38. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, the CLE personnel dept. has been fired and they hired vet GM John Dorsey. They do have some talent, but as you said they made a bunch of mistakes with the front office, at HC and at QB. They passed on good QBs recently and the one they did pick a few years back was Manziel.

    You have to get past that and hope you do it right this time and Dorsey is well thought of. I bet the Giants would be looking at him if he was available.

    • Mike E. says:

      CLE has a pretty good O-line, and some really good young receivers too (Coleman and Gordon), and young up and coming TE. Nothing to scoff at there.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Dorsey also played LB for the Packers for 6 seasons. He’s a football guy. President Paul DePodesta can screw around with analytics and moneyball, but Dorsey gives them a real football guy. Now is the time for Rosen to go there. The Browns have 12 draft picks including two 1’s (#1 overall), three 2’s, two 4’s, two 5’s and a pick at every other spot. Maybe the stars are aligning for them.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Think about the scenario here. Take the best QB on your board at #1, then with #7 take the BPA at any other position. Start adding those other picks and this team’s look and culture changes overnight personnel wise. Now it needs to be coached. Will it be Jackson who knows, but nobody would be shocked if he gets fired.

  39. To me, if you’re not going to make the playoffs, it doesn’t matter if you go 7-9 or 0-16. If your team is consistently missing the playoffs because of qb changes, HC changes, GM changes , etc you’re no less of a shitshow than anyone else.

  40. Mike E. says:

    Lou – Still think the Niners are still Beathard’s team?

  41. Mike E. says:

    What bothers me most about our record is not so much the 6-9, but the -106 in point differential. That’s among the worst in the league. Gase needs to fix that

    • And he’s supposed to be an offensive guru

      • Mike E. says:

        We’ve had too many “supposed” gurus. He seems to get a lot out of his QB’s, especially those not retired that come back. I think Cutler would have done better had he been here all throughout TC and the preseason, but I don’t know that for sure, I just think it. He needs to get Tannehill and the offense going quickly next season, because there shouldn’t be an adjustment period, and there’s no excuse for yet another slow start.

      • Tim Knight says:

        There is if the OL isn’t addressed and we really could use more out of the TE position.

  42. naplesfan2010 says:

    6-10 is infinitely better than 0-16.

  43. Mike E. says:


    He sparked that team. That team doesn’t win 5 games like that w/o Jimmy G. He’s a leader, and he has those guys believing. Good for him, he got his chance, and he immediately made a huge impact. Now he has to keep it going, or it means nothing.

  44. ElephantRider says:

    Lol….going 0-16 is same as 7-9. Try telling that to any player and see what their response is.

  45. Tim Knight says:

    JimmyG is the 49ers franchise QB and you’ll see that when they re-sign him.

  46. Mike E. says:


    If we don’t address those things, EVERYONE should be fired. Why wouldn’t we? There’s no good reason, we all see it, you’d have to think they do too. lol

    • Tim Knight says:

      I know I was just saying. 🙂

      Would you pay James the $9.3+M? I’m not sure I would. His durability is a bit in question now going down for large portions of two seasons. He can be very good and just okay. Then not available. That’s a debate I’m sure the FO will have.

      • Mike E. says:

        I guess it depends on what other options they view as viable replacements. I doubt that player is currently on the roster, so either there’s a FA they like, or we’re going O-line heavy in this draft. I would keep him, if there wasn’t a FA we liked. I think it’s too much to ask to find 2 quality starting OL in one draft. James had 2 seasons where he played 16, and 2 seasons where he played 8 or less. Tough call.

  47. Mike E. says:

    I just looked at 2018 FA OT’s, and it doesn’t look pretty. My guess is we’re keeping James.

  48. mf13ss says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    December 26, 2017 at 4:46 pm
    NIU on deck on ESPN. I know you’re high on one of their LB’s but have you seen Sutton Smith play this year?
    No, I haven’t seen Sutton play… though I know that name quite well. The LB I’m high on is Jawuan Johnson. Should he declare for the ’18 Draft, we’d do well to be all over him.

    For those of you who listened carefully to the game on Sunday, Rich Gannon made special mention that our current LBs aren’t very good in coverage. So why am I all about Jawuan Johnson? He leads all FBS LBs in INTs this year with 5. And as I additionally discovered, he’s fast and he’s a HARD HITTER. He just needs to add 10-15 pounds to be an NFL LB and not a Safety.

    • Tim Knight says:

      While that is true, how many games have Alonso, Timmons, Maualuga (the time he was here) Allen and Anthony played together? I see a lot of miscommunication there that may be because of a lack of chemistry.

  49. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, I know the coaches have said they feel Davis looks more like a tackle than guard but he’s done a decent job at both. I definitely think they like him and he’ll be part of the mix in 2018. It depends on where they want the money to go.

    • Mike E. says:

      Gotcha – I’m just trying to cut down our needs. I figure Davis at one OG spot, and then either a draftee, or possibly Asiata at the other. Hopefully, we have a stud draftee, and maybe James at RT, which would finally give us some depth.

  50. mf13ss says:

    ’16 Tanny: 13 games, 19 TDs, 12 INTs, 9 fumbles, 29 sacks, 114 PF
    ’17 Cutler: 13 games, 19 TDs, 14 INTs, 6 fumbles, 20 sacks, 114 PF

    If Tannehill ROCKS, so does Cutler. If Cutler SUCKS, so does Tannehill. I’m so tired of the homers and the haters who are so blinded by their football ignorance. This is the Adam Gase passing game, minus Peyton Manning.

    ’16 Dolphins: 14 rushing TDs, 4.5 YPC, 84 PF
    ’17 Dolphins: 3 rushing TDs, 3.8 YPC, 18 PF

    ’17 record with Ajayi: 4-3
    ’17 record w/o Ajayi: 2-6

    Rest assured, we’ll be drafting a RB at some point in ’18 because we traded Ajayi away for a PB&J sandwich, relative to his value.

    Now then… fix the bloody O-Line to both “PROTECT THE ‘HILL” and open gaping holes for the Drake to run through.

    • Tim Knight says:

      What were the records? Our defense was also much worse last year. We can keep going on this. RT will be 30 and Cutler 35 in 2018. I know RT destroyed his knee too. LOL

  51. Mike E. says:


    Do you know how much Tanny in ’16 has in common with Cutler in ’17?

    Not a whole lot. In fact, it means just as much as the w/Ajayi or w/o Ajayi records. Not an awful lot. Drake was as much or more of a threat than Ajayi, and Cutler didn’t play nearly as well as Tannehill did down the final stretch of the season. Tannehill was consistently good once we got past the rough start.

  52. mf13ss says:

    Barry Jackson

    Verified account

    51s51 seconds ago
    NEW: The Dolphins really need to learn these eight lessons from this disappointing season. If not, this won’t get solved here:

  53. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    December 26, 2017 at 8:46 pm
    …We can keep going on this. RT will be 30 and Cutler 35 in 2018. I know RT destroyed his knee too. LOL
    I’m the LAST guy who would advocate bringing Cutler back… and he’s done just as well and even better than Tannehill did last season in key aspects.

    I think everybody is missing my greater point: Tannehill and Cutler are the same QB under the same HC in Gase. And it will also be close to two years and two major knee injuries since Tannehill has taken a meaningful snap when he’s the starting QB for us next September.

    I know, I know… M13 is a sick, evil fuck who hates Tannehill!!! LOL, nothing could be further from the truth, but I’m a REALIST. As such, I DO have concerns about Tannehill’s successful return (who in their right mind wouldn’t???).

  54. What I’m saying is if you consistently have .500 or worse as a record it doesn’t matter if its 7-9 or 0-16. We go 6-10 and you’re really going to sit there and say ” man those Browns really suck”. How ridiculous would that statement be?

    • The Flying Pig says:

      They’ve won 1 game in 2 years while we’ve won 16 games

      That’s 15 happier Monday mornings

      Sorry – I remember 1-15 and it was horrible. I wouldn’t trade places with them

  55. So the big “rumor” with the team is If Joseph is fired Phins are definitely re–hiring him as the DC. How do you feel about this?

    • mf13ss says:

      I’ve ZERO interest in Vance Joseph as our DC next season. He’s a DB coach who didn’t do us any justice last season as our DC. I’m not sure how he even became a HC, to be honest.

  56. olddolphan says:

    PROF LOU; We DO consistently have .500 or worse as a record under Ross’s ownership. IN FACT, our record under Ross will be 65-81 if the underdog Fins lose to Buffalo on Sunday. Articles in today’s MIAMI HERALD by Armando and Barry Jackson strongly (and deservedly) rip Ross’s culture of mismanagement/losing. I sure wish I could tell Dolfans that we’re one good draft away from competing for a Super Bowl. But that would BE A LIE —and a big one at that.

    Best case scenario for next season is a terrific draft, few injuries, best season by Tannehill which will get us to about 10-6 and a loss on Wildcard Weekend in the Playoffs. But the crystal ball says somewhere between 6 and 9 wins, and NO PLAYOFFS, is far more likely.

    This franchises biggest need is A NEW OWNER!! –But I don’t see that happening before 2020 at the earliest. That likely means we SUCK in 2018 and 2019 and, likely, 2020 also. But hang in there! By 2021, Brady will have retired and Ross may have sold the team!

    • olddolphan says:

      PS:–2021 WOULD be a great year for the Fins next Super Bowl appearance. The game will be played about 18 miles from here in TAMPA!!

  57. Tim Knight says:

    Cutler: 80.9 QBR, 62.1% and 6.23 YPA.
    Tannehill: 93.5 QBR, 67.1% and 7.70 YPA.

    • mf13ss says:

      But Tannehill was coming off shoulder surgery and having retired… he didn’t even participate in any offseason activities. Tannehill also had no familiarity with his receivers, nor his patchwork O-Line. Also, Tannehill sustained rib injuries and a concussion during his stellar ’16 season. Additionally, Tannehill never had a Pro-Bowl RB in Ajayi to lean on, consistently keeping 8 in-the-box, making it easier to pass.

      Wait a minute… MY BAD! I meant Cutler, not Tannehill.

  58. Rhino says:

    mf13 says: “This is the Adam Gase passing game, minus Peyton Manning.” GREAT line.
    !!!!! oh man, I nearly fell out of my chair laughing! Gase is learning that ANY offense is brilliant if Peyton Manning is running it.

    I mentioned yesterday that the real question on Tanny is… is he worth the percentage of the payroll he will earn going forward?

    On Nelson … I’ve seen one mock with him at the third freaking pick. Denver and Cincy are the two teams that could take Nelson before we get a chance. It freaks people out…. but we’d be lucky at pick 11 to 13 if he was still there. I’m all in for Nelson. vs Buffalo: “drop some for Nelson” meh

  59. rich0322 says:

    With our luck Brady will play longer than George Blanda.

  60. Tim Knight says:

    M13, come on… post all the stats if you’re going to post them. Tannehill 30/Cutler 35 is a factor. I’d take Cutler as a backup over Moore though. Will he sign up for that at about $4-5M for a year while we also maybe add a 53 man developmental QB. We might see that this year.

  61. ElephantRider says:

    You’re a sick evil fuck

  62. olddolphan says:

    NEITHER THE big 10 NOR THE PAC-12 are happy about NOT being included in college football’s FINAL FOUR. That said, the Fiesta Bowl (Penn St. VS. Washington) and the Cotton Bowl (Ohio State VS. Southern Cal.) will give these “excluded” conferences a chance to prove which of the “Have Not” conferences is the best this season. My guess is that the big 10 will win BOTH of these games comfortably. The PAC-12 simply DOES NOT have a legitimate national championship contender this season and these 2 bowl games will prove it.
    TWO OTHER bowl games have caught my attention. The Peach Bowl, featuring Auburn & UCF and the Orange Bowl, which has Wisconsin playing Miami. My wild-ass guess is to take both Florida based teams plus the points in these games (which, right now, would be about a touchdown or so in both contests. UCF will be playing for A PERFECT SEASON and the Canes will be playing at home where THEY HAVE A DISTINCT HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE (unlike the Dolphins) in Hard Head Stadium.
    WHAT do you folks think of these games??

  63. wyoming85 says:

    At least we don’t have players calling other players a “Cancer”

  64. Mike E. says:


    How many major knee surgeries did Tannehill have? Five? lol

    He had one surgery, and it was no more major than any other run of the mill ACL tear.

  65. wyoming85 says:


    Armando Salguero

    Verified account

    4m4 minutes ago
    Dolphins name Kenny Stills their community service award winner.

    Armando Salguero

    Verified account

    5m5 minutes ago
    Dolphins name Mike Pouncey their courage award winner.

    Armando Salguero

    Verified account

    5m5 minutes ago
    Dolphins give Cameron Wake their leadership award for 2017.

  66. wyoming85 says:

    Armando Salguero

    Verified account

    7m7 minutes ago
    Dolphins named Ndamukong Suh their MVP.

  67. wyoming85 says:

    With pictures

  68. wyoming85 says:

  69. wyoming85 says:

    Armando Salguero

    Verified account

    12m12 minutes ago
    The Dolphins will promote Rashawn Scott and Gabe Wright from the practice squad.

  70. wyoming85 says:

    James Walker

    Verified account

    10m10 minutes ago
    The Dolphins put DT Vincent Taylor and WR Leonte Carroo on IR, the team announced. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0737694549052232808-4

  71. wyoming85 says:

    Adam Beasley

    Verified account

    8m8 minutes ago
    Leonte Carroo had an emergency medical procedure on Christmas Day. He will go on NFI.

  72. naplesfan2010 says:

    They played Cameron Malvaux a lot recently. Anybody got a read on whether he is for real?
    Big kid.

    Also several of you have talked up Gabe Wright, so this is our chance to see if he can play too.

  73. Mike E. says:

    Armando Salguero

    Verified account

    5m5 minutes ago
    Dolphins name Ryan Tannehill as their most courageous survivor of 5 major knee surgeries

  74. Mike E. says:


  75. Randy says:

    We’ve heard opponents say it. Tannehill is simply too easy to defend. He doesn’t frighten anybody. He is an average QB that will never win games for you in crunch time. It’s time to at least try to upgrade the position, if we can. Spout all he numbers you like. The bottom line is this team has sucked at scoring with Tannehill at QB. He didn’t have a good year last year. He was on pace to have pretty much the same year he always does. Around 25 TDs and 12 INTs. None of the other stats mean much when you consistently score around 21 points a game. That’s Tannehill. He’s good enough to keep us hovering around .500, and he is not going to be a difference maker in the playoffs….if he ever actually gets this team to the playoffs or plays in a playoff game.
    This team will never threaten for a championship with him at QB. There, I said it. It’s now a fact, and we can all move on with our lives. Lol

  76. Randy says:

    Oh great! I wrote a manifesto on Tannehill, and you put up a new blog. Now, no one will read it. Lol

  77. wyoming85 says:

    Don’t you have to put up a new blog before you can proclaim it?

    • Mike E. says:

      It’s up, I promise. Close your browser, and go to our website, it will come up. Sometimes it takes time for the link to show up at the top of the page, not sure why

  78. D says:

    What Mando said in that article, while maybe painted with very bleak brushstrokes, isnt wrong. We definitely have to avoid continuing not to address QB, despite having strong feelings Tanny will b ready, and he will be healthy again, and he will progress, etc etc. We have to be prepared for any number of what if’s we could run into. There are several other reasons to take a QB but they venture too close to the border of a war zone to get into, but suffice to say its better for the team in all regards that we make a play at a QB that we have really strong inclinations could lead out team in the future, and near future if need be.

  79. ocalarob says:

    Dolphins name Kenny Stills their community service award winner.

    Did he get the knee pad award for being the most disrespectful to the armed forces?

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