GAME DAY – Dolphins @ Bills – Game 14 – Baby It’s Cold Outside!

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  1. Phindog says:

    That was so Cutlerish.. 🤓

  2. Phindog says:

    Holy shit.. Page turn. Cutler still sucks

  3. BailBondMike says:

    I have to give a shout out to Pensacola’s University of West Florida football team. In only their second year of existence, they knocked off the #1 ranked DIV II team to advance to the championship game but lost 37-27. That team they were playing had a massive (DIV I size, ave 6’5″ 318) OL and UWF was just out manned in the trenches.

  4. Tim Knight says:

    Naples. Chase Allen is solid and we get McMillan back at MLB next year. I don’t see LB as a priority unless there is a prospect too good to pass on.

    • Ken says:

      Allen is back up material. He is not athletic enough to be an every down LB. I do think we need to upgrade LB as a priority in the off season

      • Tim Knight says:

        McMillan will be the starting MLB in 2018/Allen backup. Alonso, possibly Timmons back and Anthony. It’s not a priority. We need upgrades on the OL and at TE. Another pass rusher would be nice.

        Like I said unless there is a LB prospect too good to pass on.

  5. BailBondMike says:

    Our Cutlery is dull, we need to sharpen it.

  6. BailBondMike says:

    Damn, Gronk bear hugged the defender on that TD run and didn’t get called. Not surprised.

  7. BailBondMike says:

    Ken, Allen is athletic. It’s his read and react that is hampering him. IMO I believe he has a huge ceiling.

  8. BailBondMike says:

    That is odd how did that happen?

    Cause our cutlery is really dull, LOL

  9. herdfan says:

    The Patriots should be super embarrassed about the game on Monday after that display we had today.

  10. stangerx says:

    So guess we can cross possible playoffs and Cutler as our possible starting QB next year out of our system. Last three games showed we have two possible young stars in Drake and Howard though.

  11. wyoming85 says:

    The Pitt / NE game is going to won by the first one to fifty!

  12. ElephantRider says:

    Same ol same ol

  13. BailBondMike says:

    Cutler is as Cutler does

  14. BailBondMike says:

    Cutler assumes to much on what a WR is gong to do. That last INT he assumed Parker was going to go out, but I guess Parker saw the DB on that side so he went inside with end result of the pass going to the DB. Parker should have turned to the outside anyway since we were racing the clock. I don’t know what the F I’m trying to say. I’m just disgusted.

  15. wyoming85 says:

    Looks like Brown has a broken leg!

  16. Tim Knight says:

    We can start to focus on the offseason and how this team needs to shape up. OL, TE and a piece here and there almost everywhere. I see a lot of upside from some core and young players moving forward.

    We will re-sign Landry. Some other guys are going to free that up, like Thomas and probably Branch. We will likely draft a top TE prospect and another pass rusher to go along with the young and emerging Harris.

    Yes OL should be a priority. 🙂

  17. Tim Knight says:

    Cutler is too android. He doesn’t fire anyone up. He just plays the game the way he is. He has talent but he also is mistake-prone. He won’t be back in 2018.

  18. naplesfan2010 says:

    I know we have McMillan coming back. I was referring to why we lost this game, but i did not state it very clearly.

    I think we badly need a quick stud TE.

  19. Ken says:

    I just saw the Rams Seahawks score. Holy crap the Rams came to play

    • stangerx says:

      Hard to lose in FF today if you have Gurley on your team. Am benefiting from that in Toba’s league and so is the soon to be league champion in my other.

  20. stangerx says:

    Stats today were pretty darn even…..except for the 3 ints.

  21. stangerx says:

    Sometimes you enjoy football just cause it is football….and even better when a great comeback comes with Brady looking sad.

  22. herdfan says:

    I think that was a catch in the Steeler’s game…they just robbed them IMO.

  23. stangerx says:

    Fing A.

  24. Ken says:

    Steelers were robbed

  25. ElephantRider says:

    Hand under ball means incomplete when playing the Cheatriots

  26. D says:

    It doesn’t matter what happens when he hit the ground, it only matters if he has control crossing the plane which he did. Complete bullshit call

  27. Cutler sux, no more high priced free agent QB,s please 😎
    Hopefully We draft one, and RT and the rookie can fight it out for starter.

  28. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, I’m in the SB or Championship game. Gurley put me over the top. 🙂

  29. herdfan says:

    It was called a TD…it WAS a TD. Replay surely didn’t give indisputable proof otherwise that I could see.

  30. D says:

    Garapolo is tearing it up in the SF game

  31. Ken says:

    Cutler wasn’t a high priced FA he was an emergency signing once Tannehill got hurt. I agree he has not been good but he was not brought in to be the guy he was brought as a place holder. It didn’t work but I understand why it was done

  32. BailBondMike says:

    Looks like Big Ben pulled a “Cutlermoore” with the INT in the end. 😉

  33. BailBondMike says:

    They did get robbed! I will bet if they would have put the cameras on Kraft during the review, it would have showed Kraft talking to someone on the phone making a quick deal.

  34. mf13ss says:

    It’s difficult to believe we’re still in the playoff hunt after today’s game.

  35. stangerx says:

    Since thinking his body might break down, he might not end up having the best career ever. But no TE in his prime do I choose to start for one game over Gronk if he is healthy. He’s just a force.

  36. Mike E. says:

    What baffles me about the play where Jesse James scored the TD is this. He didn’t make the catch IN the endzone, yet they applied those rules as if he did. He was like a ball carrier, he made the catch, he was down, his knees hit, and he lunged forward and the ball broke the plane. I can’t understand any reason that isn’t a touchdown. He had full possession of the football when his knees were down, and then the football crossed the goal line. No way that’s not a TD

  37. Mike E. says:

    Toba – That was a tough day for your squad. You had a great team, they just didn’t play well today. I had the same kind of thing happen to me in one of my other FF leagues. Antonio Brown went out, and that was it. I made some bad decisions on WR’s too, I could have played Landry, but I went with Demaryius Thomas, Josh Gordon and Antonio Brown. If AB played the whole game I would have won, but still, some bad decisions on my part.

  38. Mike E. says:

    They really need to make the rules of a catch more simple, and less ambiguous. The fact that they can manipulate the interpretation from play to play is a real turnoff to any football fan. Every play becomes a courtroom drama, rather than an easy YES or NO that it was a catch. It’s just ridiculous that a game can be decided by this nonsensical ruling. They just have to change it.

  39. D says:

    Mike I saw that play exactly as you did. There is going to be some stink raised over that call next week

  40. wyoming85 says:

    Your score is: 17711 (GRADE: B)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 12: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 12: Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 12: Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State (A)
    Round 4 Pick 12: K.J. Malone, OG, LSU (A)
    Round 4 Pick 29: Sean Welsh, C, Iowa (A-)
    Round 6 Pick 12: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 7: Kalen Ballage, RB, Arizona State (A)
    Round 7 Pick 12: Arrion Springs, CB, Oregon (A)

    • Ken says:

      There is no way that Josh Rosen is there at pick 12. I don’t think he is there at pick 2 but if he is there at pick 12 absolutely you take him.

  41. ElephantRider says:

    Lmao at that 1st down call in Oakland.

    It’s frickin 2017 and the NFL makes BILLIONS… on earth are they using crooked refs with pieces of paper instead of technology? Time to get rid of the chains……

  42. manitobafinfan says:

    So unless both Julio jones (Stanger) and Deon Jones (Mike E) put up a minus 50 pt game the FFB Final will be Stanger vs Mike E.

    Congrats guys.

  43. Rhino says:

    Tenn Titans loss to 49ers was a gem of an opportunity for a “win out” scenario for Fins. But, alas, we couldn’t handle our own business. 😦

  44. olddolphan says:

    Mike E; Totally agree that the controversial play in the Steeler’s game was a touchdown!!–Once the ball advanced to the goal line the play was over b/c he caught the ball, and his knees hit the turf due to being tackled.
    STOPPED WATCHING the Fins game when the score hit 24-6 in the 3rd quarter. HOW MANY TIMES did the Bills have a running back WIDE OPEN about 5-6 yards past the line of scrimmage near the center of the field?? – – And WHY was Burke unable to make the necessary adjustments??- – – Could it be that Gase has ANOTHER goofball assistant coach??
    WYOMING: Saw your mock draft waited until ROUND 4 to fill our single greatest need, the O-Line. Do you REALLY THINK T-BOMB AND GRIER can fill these gaping holes in round 4??–I certainly do NOT!! –That’s why I believe we need to use our first two picks in the O-Line, as MF-13 and others have hinted at. Yes, with better “pickers” we might find what we need in round 4. But these jokers have a very dubious record with O-Line picks after round 3, right??

  45. Rhino says:

    NFL scheduling change I would like to see…
    Quit scheduling division opponents (twice in three weeks). Its a trend. Maybe there’s a glitch that this is the only way to do it, but spread them out. i.e., playing Jets twice in three weeks early in the season takes away all the drama IF they both would have been in contention.

  46. Rhino says:

    how can each individual pick be A- or higher, then the overall grade be a “B”. Final grades must have been assigned by the graduate T.A. lol

  47. ocalarob says:

    as per NFL rules the player has to maintain possession thru-out the catching process, in order for it to be ruled as a catch. if he had made a football move then it would have been good.

    The fact that he caught it in the air and was coming down from the catch, his knee hit then the rest of his body and the ball hit the ground forcing him to briefly lose possession, result NO CATCH.

    Unfortunately the zebras got this call right, he didn’t catch the ball he muffed it as he hit the ground.

    • Mike E. says:

      Uh, didn’t he “hit the ground” when his knees hit the ground? How many times and different places does he need to hit the ground before it counts?

  48. Rhino says:

    Only first round Guard in Miami’s draft history was Roy Foster 1982 (we got 9 great seasons out of him). I don’t want to research it, but I wonder how many other teams have gone 35 years without the need for a guard in first round?

    I will let those of you with more knowledge debate this… but the issue (to me) seems to be: if our QB doesn’t seem to be very ‘quick’ in decision making, it makes sense to have a dominant guard for our run game. If our QB IS able to make quick decisions, then it may not be as important. Luck did amazing things behind a shitty line (even if the odds finally caught up to him).

    If we stick with Tannehill (which it seems like we will), then we may need to get the best Guard in the draft despite the 35 year trend.

    • rgs322 says:

      Problem is the best guard may be gone when we pick. It’s possible we go 6-10 and still pick around 13/14 in the first round. Quenton Nelson is projected in most drafts going any where from 8-14.

      • Rhino says:

        I think we need to be 9 or 10 to have a clear shot cuz so many in front of us have glaring needs. Even then, the only Guard in top 10 recently I can remember is Panthers about 4 or 5 years ago (?)…. don’t know his name.

    • rgs322 says:

      I honestly don’t think we have a shot for a top 10 pick without trading up. (I’m not saying we should trade up). Just too many bad teams in front of us with weaker SOS. Pick 11 is the highest we have a shot at.

  49. sb7mvp says:

    I was driving back from Disney and didn’t get to watch the game. The stats looked pretty even, other than Cutler’s 3 INT’s. Was that really the difference in the game? What happened?

  50. ocalarob says:

    Guard is a low value pick, that’s why they are usually not taken early, QB…DE….T….CB…WR are high value picks that’s why they come off early.

  51. ocalarob says:

    49 passing attempts and 16 rushes, if we can’t run the ball consistently we cant win

    • Mike E. says:

      We were down 21-6 at half. You can’t just produce stats like that w/o game context. Can’t run a lot when you’re down 15 points in the 2nd half.

  52. Rhino says:

    8-8 Dolphin playoff team (LOL):
    1. Fins beat Chiefs and Bills
    2. Titans lose both to Rams and Jax
    3. Chargers lose one game (Jets or Raiders)… Jets over Chargers is the biggest ‘upset’ we need outside of #’s 1 and 2 on this list.
    4. Raiders lose to Eagles would take pressure of last game of Raiders vs Chargers.
    5. Patriots beat Bills

    @Jax (likely) for first round of WC…. I feel cheap for even writing this kool-aid soaked post.

  53. Mike E. says:

    Taylor made big plays when he had to, Cutler gave Buffalo too many chances with his 3 picks. That’s the difference.

  54. Rhino says:

    temperatures in Kansas City will be high 50’s and low 60’s during the week … BUT drop to high 20’s over the weekend. mother nature is rigged. lol

  55. stangerx says:

    Wasn’t a good weekend for us as far as draft position. Virtually all the teams with records around ours lost. We lost but ended at #14.

  56. Rhino says:

    Last comment for now as I have work to do. “Who to cheer for list” …

    Week 15.. IF wins by
    Fins (Chiefs)
    Pats (Bills)
    Jets (Chargers)
    Rams (Titans)
    Eagles (Raiders)

    then Week 16 we only need
    Fins (Bills)
    Jax (Titans)

    Of the games we don’t control (which actually could also be OUR game lol) Jets/Chargers is the biggest ‘ask’. So –

    Week 15 … IF
    Fins (Chiefs)
    Pats (Bills)
    Rams (Titans)
    Eagles (Raiders)

    then Week 16 we need
    Fins (Bills)
    Jax (Titans)
    Raiders (Chargers)

    At any point, one win by Bills or Titans eliminates Fins. Two wins by either Chargers or Raiders eliminates Fins.
    Done. There’s your “who to cheer for” list if you still want an 8-8 playoff team. 😉

  57. The Flying Pig says:

    I love to see all the scenarios
    But I really don’t think I will be watching much nfl over the last 2 weeks

  58. herdfan says:

    sb7mvp says:
    December 18, 2017 at 9:58 am (Edit)
    I was driving back from Disney and didn’t get to watch the game. The stats looked pretty even, other than Cutler’s 3 INT’s. Was that really the difference in the game? What happened?

    Shouldn’t that say ‘didn’t HAVE to watch the game….Ugh.

    We are so bi-polar as a team.

  59. rgs322 says:

    At this point, I rather have the higher draft pick. Just don’t want another overmatched wild card game. I’m looking to 2018 and building a better team that can compete on a weekly basis.

  60. Rockphin says:

    uhg, I hate this team. Beat up on the Pat’s and then lose to the bills. I hate talking draft in December every freaking year.

  61. Rockphin says:

    Rhino, I cannot under any circumstances root for the Jets. Is there another way we can make it in? LOL

    I guess I can just ignore the Jet’s and hope for the rest to play out as well as root for the Chargers to lose.

  62. son of a son of a shula says:

    I saw this yesterday:
    Since Dec 18,2015 there have been 3 Star Wars movies put out and only 1 Cleveland Browns win.

  63. drg says:

    Well, that sucked. Here’s hoping 2018 is a better year. Still think Gase is a good coach and will improve. Still don’t like Tannebaum. I’d love a consistent GM/FO that makes smart and efficient decisions. No panic moves or risky trades that give up assets for big contract players or moving up in the draft for questionable returns. Stay the hell out of FA for the first week or two. You can’t tell me we wouldn’t have gotten similar results from a rookie or unsigned FA that we got from Branch, Timmons, Alonso, etc. Don’t mind the Starks and Jones deals, but neither of those really paid off either. Football is just too violent of a game to invest in guys long term. I think the draft is more important than ever these days. That, and finding a top 5 QB somehow.

    Buffalo tried to tank and may end up in the playoffs. Go figure…

  64. stangerx says:

    It is pretty funny how Buffalo’s rebuild worked out….thinking their fans are not complaining at least.

  65. sb7mvp says:

    herdfan says:

    December 18, 2017 at 10:49 am

    sb7mvp says:
    December 18, 2017 at 9:58 am (Edit)
    I was driving back from Disney and didn’t get to watch the game. The stats looked pretty even, other than Cutler’s 3 INT’s. Was that really the difference in the game? What happened?

    Shouldn’t that say ‘didn’t HAVE to watch the game….Ugh.

    We are so bi-polar as a team.

    lol. that too.

  66. drg says:


    Yeah, you just never know. I think that smart teams focus on the long term, stay consistent, and don’t make moves based on the results of one season. Trust the process!

  67. ocalarob says:

    Uh, didn’t he “hit the ground” when his knees hit the ground? How many times and different places does he need to hit the ground before it counts?
    The play doesn’t stop and conclude when a body part touches the ground, you have to maintain possession thru-out the catch, in other words catch the ball and come up clean which he did not do

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I think you are right but its a very problematic standard

      you wind up in an arbitrary discussion about what is maintaining possession.

      If I were an official and he had possession when the ball crossed the goal line I would have upheld the TD. It only came out after his upper body hit the ground which followed his keens hitting the ground

      • ocalarob says:

        catch the ball, don’t bobble it, come up clean with the catch, if you catch the ball and make a football move that football move may be up for arbitration.

        football move equals 2 steps maintaining possession.

        he was airborne made the catch and didn’t maintain possession thru-out the catch no football move was made.

      • ocalarob says:

        not only did he bobble it but it hit the ground at that point so the ground assisted his catch.

  68. ocalarob says:

    Mike E. says:
    December 18, 2017 at 10:15 am
    We were down 21-6 at half. You can’t just produce stats like that w/o game context. Can’t run a lot when you’re down 15 points in the 2nd half.

    I think you’re misunderstanding me, I understand the frantic play calling to try to catch up however if we could run the ball consistently with success we would not be down 21-6.

    Gase needs to find out how to consistently run the ball with success or we’ll always be just another patsy.

    the teams that run the ball with success are leading the NFL

    • Tim Knight says:

      For me it starts up front. Too many plays where there is nowhere for the back to go.

      • ocalarob says:

        we also lack creative run blocking schemes and that’s on the OL-C and HC.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Not sure what you mean by creative run blocking schemes? Like what?

      • ocalarob says:

        like what are we doing in these sweeps that run into the teeth of the D for minus 5 yards?
        go back to the counter trey where you have 2 OL pulling to a certain hole, i havent seen any OL pulling, just runs straight up the middle and look for the opening most of the time getting stuffed.

        we play backwards, our pass sets up the run instead of vice versa

  69. D says:

    You can’t just arbitrarily say we need to run more, because what’s the magic number, who decided that’s the number? Wouldn’t you think the coach knows that better than us? Seriously you can’t think you know what’s the better game plan and the Gase is deliberately abandoning the run game when he shows every game when it’s working and where we are in the position where the game is in reach that he believes in running the ball. How is it hard to see that the pattern here is we don’t run when we are getting blown out, it’s not we are getting blown out because we aren’t running enough.

    • ocalarob says:

      you’re missing the point, i’m not saying run the ball own 21-6, I’m saying we have to find a way to successfully run the ball whether that be with new OL, new OLC or a new RB.

      we need a vertical RB one that will take it up the middle and get you 4 yards consistently. however that happens it has to be achieved or we can not contend.
      the main reason we made the playoffs last year was the fact that we had the #4 rb in the league.

      it can be done

  70. D says:

    Also he did make a football move. He caught it and then turned and stretched out to break the plane, and he did that from his knees, ie after completing the catch and going to the ground

    • ocalarob says:

      A player has the ball long enough to become a runner when, after his second foot is on the ground, he is capable of avoiding or warding off impending contact of an opponent, tucking the ball away, turning up field, or taking additional steps

    • Tim Knight says:

      Who are you talking about?

      • ElephantRider says:

        The Steelers non TD….

        If that guy would have just fell and rolled in it would have been a TD. Him stretching out after he caught it with knees on the ground was a football move to me

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah I just heard about it on WFAN radio. The former ref Mike Pereira said as a receiver you still have to have control of the ball at the end – ground forcing it or not, it’s not like a RB. He also said he thinks officiating is becoming too technical and it’s ruining the game.

  71. wyoming85 says:

    I would love to draft nelson in the first!

    But I think there is going to be more talent than him on the board when we pick
    Not taking talent and reaching for needs have gotten the last 3 GM’s fired!!!!!

    The top pick is talent! If it fills a HOLE then better!

    The simulators are fun but sometimes someone drops that you can’t pass up (even though you know in real life it will never happen!)

  72. Tim Knight says:

    Rob, I do remember on 1st down we ran a sweep and I was saying why do that there? I didn’t think the timing of the play call was right and we took a loss. But I still feel the blocking up front on a lot of running plays isn’t very good. For every good one we have we have like 3-4 not so good and sometimes the RB has to make something happen on his own which Drake does a lot of the time. If we could improve up front with run blocking Drake could be a top back. He is so quick and fast it’s scary.

  73. The Flying Pig says:

    This is prett impressive. Can’t believe he wasn’t doubled

  74. I’m sorry but the team should have fired Matt Burke right after that game. They need a REAL defensive coordinator because the bearded wonder ain’t gettin’ it done.

    • Tim Knight says:

      The game was lost on offense. The defense did not look good early on but held BUF to 3 points in the 2nd half as our offense continued to struggle scoring their only TD halfway through the 4th quarter. Once again no complimentary football. Then we get the onside kick and Cutler throws a horrible pick on the first play. You can’t lose the TO battle 3-0 especially on the road. The defense made enough big stops to give the offense a chance in the game and they couldn’t do it.

    • Ken says:

      I am not sold on Burke either. It’s not anything in particular he did in Bills game but all year he just doesn’t seem to run a scheme that best suits our talent. I don’t understand why this team doesn’t have more sacks and why with the pass rush we should have that we don’t have more interceptions

  75. Mike E. says:

    I also heard Periera on the radio talking about Jesse Davis’s NON CATCH. The rule is stupid, it should be changed. The catch situation is all about when you’re going to the ground. When you go to the ground during the catch, you have to maintain possession when everything hits the ground. In Davis’s case, the ball moved after he crossed the goal line and when his hands came down and the ball did hit the ground. They need to change the rule to make the catch, get 2 feet down or your butt, or elbow, and you’ve made the catch. Where the extra nonsense comes in about maintaining possession after you go the ground is an over complication and unnecessary part of the rule.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Agreed. I remember the first time when I saw the new rules with receivers having to do all this stuff for it to be a catch and I was like WTF is this?

      The new phrase is ticky tack and that’s the problem.

      • Mike E. says:

        It totally detracts from the game. We knew for years that you catch the ball, get 2 feet in, or an elbow or butt, and it was a catch. Now you have to follow the fucking receiver back to the bench and make sure he still has the football or it’s not a catch. It’s nonsensical, this game is a pretty simple game, no need for complications.

      • Tim Knight says:

        That’s what Periera was talking about.

        I remember if a guy was on his back and the ball rolled on his torso it was still a possession because it was still with him and not on the ground. Now it has to be still for one Mississippi. It’s stupid. Yet a player can run with it, barely cross the goal line or the pilon and fumble it, and it’s a TD. How about make it all the same and take less judgement calls away from the officials which lends to people thinking games are rigged. Make it more simple, not more complicated.

  76. ocalarob says:

    Mike I totally disagree, I play a lot of golf for money and these guys sometimes say you can roll the ball (if) you have a bad lie in the rough, well what constitutes a bad lie? why not just say you can roll the ball in the rough? or say you can’t.
    maintain control catch the ball and avoid the controversy. otherwise it’s too ambiguous

    • Mike E. says:

      The reason why I think it’s bad for the game is this, if you’re a ballcarrier, can you can take a handoff, bobble it, have it for a quarter of a second, and then cross the plane with the ball, and it’s a TD. He had the ball, he had it when his knee hit, and then he crossed the plane. That should be sufficient. The idea is to cross the goal line with the ball in your hands, and he did that. I just think it’s too much interpretation going on.

  77. Ken says:

    James caught the ball. His knee was down but he was not touched. At that point he is a runner. His stretch of the ball over the goal line is a touchdown. The fact that it is bobbled at that point is immaterial because he is a runner at that point. The catch has already been made. To me it is no different than if he caught the ball at the 20 ran to the end zone and loses the ball as he crosses the goal line

    • Tim Knight says:

      Periera said that’s not the case with a receiver but disagrees with the rule. That’s the problem. The rule is dumb.

      • Ken says:

        It is the case with a receiver. Once he becomes a runner he doesn’t need to maintain possession when hitting the ground. The question is did James complete the catch before stretching out to cross the goal line. If he did then he is a runner and that is a touchdown. That is how I saw the play.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Well he said the opposite and that’s the problem which I agree with.

  78. olddolphan says:

    Florida Atlantic’s head football coach Lane Kiffin announced this afternoon that he hopes to sign a lengthy extension of his current contract at FAU. He told the Palm Beach Post he hopes to sign the new contract “real soon, perhaps before kick-off of tomorrow night’s nationally televised bowl game which will be held at Schnellenberger Field at FAU Stadium. The game will be nationally televised at 7:00 PM on ESPN.
    Let me say this right up front. I do NOT think, under any circumstances, would Kiffin accept the Dolphins job if Adam Gase were to be dismissed in the next 2-3 years. BUT I DO BELIEVE SOME in the south Florida media will try to make this connection, especially if the Dolphins have another losing season next year. HOWEVER, if the Dolphins struggle AND Ross decides to sell the team after hosting the 2020 Super Bowl in Hard Head Stadium, a new owner MIGHT look in Kiffin’s direction, especially if FAU continues to average 40-50 points a game in 2018 and beyond.
    TOMORROW is FAU DAY at our house. Shirts, flags, pennants, the whole deal !!! –I’ll even be wearing my OWLS’ Red-White and Blue to work tomorrow!!! Hope my boys put on a REAL SHOW for all you football fans out there!! GOO-O-O-O OWLS!

  79. mf13ss says:

    ’16 Ryan Tannehill and ’17 Jay Cutler both have 389 total pass attempts after yesterday’s game. Cutler has 1 fewer TD, 2 more INTs, 9 fewer sacks, 4 fewer fumbles, and same amount of game-winning drives.

    And we must remember:

    1)Tannehill did what he did last year behind a better O-Line, Jay Ajayi commanding 8 in-the-box, a sustainable running game, familiar receivers, and a far easier schedule than this year.

    2) Cutler is doing what he’s doing this year after retiring, requiring shoulder surgery, no offseason training program, an unsustainable running game (no more 8 in-the-box), unfamiliar receivers, a dink-and-dunk gameplan, operating behind a patchwork O-Line, and while sustaining cracked ribs and a concussion in the process.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the only difference between Tannehill and Cutler is that Tannehill can move the ball between the 20s (Cutler has trouble), Cutler is a very good redzone QB (Tanny has trouble), and Cutler has superior pocket presence. Beside THAT, they are essentially the same QB in what you’re going to get on the scoreboard. And to be sure, both Cutler and Tannehill (as of right now) have 3 more career losses than wins [74-77 (.490) to 37-40 (.480)].

    It might be time to draft a QB early in ’18 as some here have suggested: a cheap backup QB on a rookie deal, an arm for the future, and someone who could replace Tannehill this season should Tannehill have a setback in his recovery.

  80. Tim Knight says:

    Tannehill had nothing to do with the performance of this team this year but some how he is still part of the problem. Yes 8-5 last year was horrible – 1-4 followed by 7-1. I don’t get it.

    All I hear is build through the draft, then when we do it’s time to hit rest every 2 years because we don’t like that we’re not great. Wow!!!

  81. mf13ss says:

    By the rule book, Jesse James did NOT make a catch on the TD. Period. Stop. The end.

    My problem is…

    1) The rule is just ridiculous. It started with the Megatron non-TD in ’10, and fans EVERYWHERE were outraged.
    2) Officials sometimes overlook the rule (ie: they’ve favored the Patsies* on the same kind of plays).
    3) It takes away from the game.
    4) In MY rule book, it’s a TD ALL DAY after breaking the goal line.
    5) It took 5 minutes to determine the call. Apparently, the rule was being debated. And Bob Krap* probably placed a call to Goodell in the interim.

  82. ocalarob says:

    It’s very obvious that he didn’t make a football move according to the rule.

    he was not capable of warding off defenders. he wasn’t tucking the ball away and he wasn’t taking additional steps, in the process of catching the ball he’s trying to reach it over the goal line the ball hits the ground and he loses control.

    it wasn’t a catch plain and simple. if he want’s a touchdown he should make sure he maintains possession, he did not.

    • ocalarob says:

      My opinion of a catch is you maintain possession thru-out the procedure, you have to come up with the ball, you can’t lose control when it hits the ground because at that point the ground is aiding you in catching the ball

  83. ElephantRider says:

    RT17 2016>Jay Cutler 2017

  84. wyoming85 says:

  85. Agreed, Ken, it isn’t just the Buffalo game where Burke is concerned. It’s the entire year to this point. I didn’t mean to imply, Tim, the Buffalo game was the reason Burke should be fired but it was the icing on the cake. yeah, held Buffalo 3 pts in the 2nd half but the defense has to be able to win games and it also needs to be consistent and this defense has been far from consistent this year.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Okay fire and replace everyone guy. LOL

      It’s still about players.

      • there’s coaches who can get their players to play at a higher level and there’s coaches who can’t get their players to show up for games on a consistent basis. there’s enough talent on the defensive side of the ball to be better than they are so there’s really no excuse other than Burke is terrible at what he does.

      • well gee Tim, we’re doing so well. aren’t we?

      • Phindog says:

        Wrong Tim.. Don’t you know that every time we lose a game we need to fire coaches and replace Tannehill despite the fact that these are professional NFL players that say they didn’t do what the coaches asked them to do ? My bad .. It’s all the owners fault.

  86. Tim Knight says:

    Yes and some are good and some are not so good. Coaches can’t make okay great. Maybe you can. Apply for the job, other than that, seriously? Not sure where you come from?

  87. Like it or not there’s a set of rules that apply to the Pats and another set that applies to the rest of the league.

    If Gronk caught that pass they would say he secured it against his body and the lung to the endzone from his knee constitutes a football move and when the ball broke the plane of the goal line it was a td so it didn’t matter that the ball came loose at the end.

  88. It’s funny how when I said the Jags would be a competitor I got laughed at. Look at them now.

  89. son of a son of a shula says:

    Diddy wants to buy the Panthers and sign Kaepernick.
    I say good do it and do it fast. We’ll take Cam thank you very much.

  90. mf13ss says:

    Prof Lou,

    If you were to take a QB in Round 1 of the ’18 Draft, who would be your guy?

    • Rosen. hands down. closest thing to Manning since Manning.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        No way

      • mf13ss says:

        I’ve looked at a lot of tier-2 and 3 QBs, but I’ve not yet delved deep into the upper echelon of QBs. I’m beginning to think it might be wise to draft one early.

        I’m intrigued with Mason Rudolph at first glance, but it was only a glance. That’s an NFL arm and he’s got prototypical size, for sure.

      • there’s much to be said about an NFL arm but I’d take a guy who has a bit lesser of an arm and intelligence and maturity off the charts. the two guys I like the best are Rosen if you’re going early and looking for the guy to start soon or Woodside if you’re looking to develop someone into a starter.

  91. Tim Knight says:

    Oh here we go, I got laughed at when I was awesome. Please enough of that.

    Let me ask any of you who cry foul, are you ever fuckin wrong? LOL

  92. Tim Knight says:

    I love watching people who think their shit doesn’t stink. It’s entertaining especially when they’re wrong and can’t admit it. LMAO!!!!

  93. wyoming85 says:

  94. wyoming85 says:

    Ok it’s me I was wrong!

  95. wyoming85 says:

  96. Randy says:

    Cutler and Tannehill are similar in their production on the field. They just each have different weaknesses and strengths. That’s the whole point with middle of the road, flawed QBs. They’re gonna have their weaknesses. It’s how you exploit their strengths and de-emphasize their faults that matters. If healthy, Tannehill is the better option because he’s younger. And, I guess it’s possible that he may still improve on what will be his 7th season next year. He may not be playing this season, but he should still be learning and improving his off the field skills. He may not be why we lose games, but he’s not why we win them either.
    With Tannehill at QB last year, I think we were scoring about 20-21 points a game. We’re at 18 this year. So, we really aren’t scoring a whole lot less given that we had to install a brand new QB in the preseason, have dealt with major shifts along the OL, have a whole 3 rushing TDs and played a much tougher schedule. Hey, did I just make an excuse? Well fuck.
    They will keep Tannehill, so there’s really no debate. Personally, I think it’s a waste to use a mid round draft pick on a QB unless you’re team is pretty stacked already. The chances they will start for you for years is slim, and we have so many other needs. If they can nab a QB high in the draft somehow: Great. If not, it will be same ole, same ole.

  97. ElephantRider says:

    The defense isn’t the reason they lost the Buf game. FGs instead of Tea and 3 INT will prob lose it every time. They stopped them the 2nd half, which to me says that adjustments were made(coaching). The offense couldn’t do shit…..

  98. wyoming85 says:

    132: R4P30 G K.J. MALONE, LSU

  99. ocalarob says:

    Tannehill won’t carry this team on his shoulders he’ll need big run support, something Ajayi gave him last year.

  100. olddolphan says:

    FAU is 2-0 all time in bowl games since becoming Division I in 2005. In tonight’s bowl game (7:00 PM on ESPN) viewers will be treated to one of the best running backs in college football, Devin (Motor) Singletary, who has amassed 30 rushing touchdowns this season, tops in Division I. Viewers should NOT ignore FAU’s all 300 pound plus offensive line, led by THREE C-USA First team selections. WR Kalib Woods and Owls’ QB Jason Driskell will certainly team up on some deep passes. But HC Lane Kiffin is known for his trick plays, so keep your eyes peeled for some truly unconventional play calling in tonight’s game.

    ON DEFENSE, Florida Atlantic is led by JR Linebacker Azeez Al-Shaair, a 6′ 2″, 228-pound wrecking ball who has led the Owls in tackles the last two seasons. His intimidating presence could be a big factor in this game. Also, DT’s Jeremiah Taleni and Stephen Leggett will be a thorn in the side of Akron’s running game.


  101. ocalarob says:

    want a QB? should have gave the pats our 2nd this year fro Garrapalo.

  102. ocalarob says:

    I think adding Nelson and Chubb to this team would help tremendously

  103. Mike E. says:


    I read that the reason Belichick took only a 2nd RD pick for Garappolo was because he refused to trade Garoppolo within his division or conference, and the Niners were the last team standing that really were interested in Jimmy G, so he took what he could get, mmm, ooh, ooh and Jimmy looked at him with those big brown eyes, and said, you ain’t seen nothing yet, b-b-b-b-a-b-y, you ain’t seen n-n-n-n-o-t-h-i-n yet.

  104. stangerx says:

    Drake has rushed for 347 yards from scrimmage and 2 TDs in the last three games. Damien Williams is an RFA but that probably means we can keep him if we want, especially after the injury. And he is young too (24). Future looking good at RB.

  105. stangerx says:

    They are announcing the Pro Bowl guys tonight. Some more might get the nod later down the road, but only lock is Suh. Landry, Wake and Jones are possible but not a sure thing. Anyone else with even a chance?

    • Mike E. says:

      Parkey has been excellent, but he has far too few attempts. Maybe a ST’s player, like Michael Thomas

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I think Landry is the only lock based on stats (which is usually how pro bowl voting goes)

      The other guys you mentioned have played well but I don’t have faith in pro bowl voters to recognize it

      • rgs322 says:

        I’m thinking Suh and Landry, with Wake making it as an alternate.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I would vote for Suh 10x over

        But I don’t know if the rest of the league shares my perception
        We haven’t been cery good on the national stage

  106. ElephantRider says:

    If the Phins only made every move every other team in the league did that actually worked out, they’d be SB champs every year!

  107. Mike E. says:

    Next year we have Kiko Alonso, Lawrence Timmons, Raekwon McMillan, Stephone Anthony and Chase Allen returning. If Kiko and Timmons are starting, that really leaves only one starting spot, which I guess would go to McMillan in the middle. Now Anthony or Raekwon would replace Timmons in the nickel, or maybe even Chase Allen.

    I wouldn’t mind drafting a LB for the future to replace Timmons, unless they really think either Allen or Anthony are good enough to eventually be solid starters.

    • Ken says:

      That is far from a dominant group of LBs. We definitely need to improve that group

      • Mike E. says:

        How do you know that? We have no idea what McMillan can be, or Chase Allen really either. We know what Alonso is, and we know what Timmons is, and there’s still a chance Stephone Anthony can be a player. So if it were up to you, when would you draft a LB?

      • Ken says:

        There is no one in that group that scares me if I am an offensive coordinator. That is a pretty run of the mill group. There is no one in there that you have to scheme against. Maybe McMillan could be good but has yet to take a snap. Also I am not Chase Allen bandwagon. To me he screams depth but not starting quality

      • Round 1, Roquan Smith if we’ve got a shot. Even if we need to trade up a couple of spots. we need a linebacker with range and who is a sure tackler. we ain’t got that now.

      • Ken says:

        Totally agree about Roquan Smith. That would be an excellent addition

  108. son of a son of a shula says:

    Go Owls
    Go Driskel
    Go OD

  109. son of a son of a shula says:

    Kansas City is our bitch this game is in the bag. We just need Tennessee to keep losing. Buffalo is toast in Miami.

  110. son of a son of a shula says:

    I think we’re getting solid at linebacker. Keep getting more pass rushers. Wake’s age and 50, who’s hurt, aren’t long term.
    I wanna see Chaee Allen become a more aggressive tackler. He gets to plays but more sexy tackles.
    I’m pleased with Anthony’s progress because he was struggling with the NFL but it seems our staff has done him a lot of good. He gets to a lot of plays fast.

  111. Tim Knight says:

    If a LB is the BPA I’d take him. But I’m not reaching for LB because I think this group can get better and I don’t consider them bad at all. They have not played a lot together in the big scheme of things and we’ve used 8-9 LBs this year due to injuries, suspensions and then a release (Maualuga). I think we have a lot to work with on defense already. Yes add to it but we need to focus on the OL and TE along with some depth at RB. People want us to draft a QB too. LOL

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Agreed plus Hewitt is back in the fold and I know you and I have liked him.

      • Tim Knight says:

        He gives you depth and athleticism if he’s never going to become a starter. You need guys like him though and to play STs. Allen gives us a big LB who can run in the middle. He’s a rook and he can get better. He also plays STs. Anthony at worst looks like the same thing as these guys. But he does have more speed and athleticism than both of them. McMillan will be back to start his NFL career. Alonso will be back and maybe Timmons, not sure on him. I’d be fine with this core group in 2018. Can add to it without going 1st rd though.

  112. son of a son of a shula says:

    Oh man your pal son has been worked up all day. Wife wore her Suh jersey to school today and still has it on. Oh man… it looks good lol

  113. Ken says:

    What is a sexy tackle?

  114. son of a son of a shula says:

    Too bad about Malaluga he was really playing well here and seemed to be well liked.
    Didn’t our losing streak start after he left. Wish he kept his shit together.

  115. son of a son of a shula says:

    I’ll take playoffs at 8-8. Just get in. We should be a playoff team. The AFC is changing quite a bit once Brady is done we have just as good a shot as anyone talent wise. We just have to win. Just win baby. Frame of mind that thankfully Landry brings in spades. We need more like that.

  116. Mike E. says:

    OK, so we’re taking a LB, QB, RB, OL all in the 1st RD? How many 1st RD picks do we have again?

    • Tim Knight says:

      That’s my point, not every area of the team needs 1st rd attention. You have to be realistic about how the team is set up heading into 2018, we’re not replacing a bunch of starters, they’re looking to add some to a few spots. Build on the best you have, add competition and hope you made some significant upgrades. That’s the game.

      Looking forward to the next two games to see if some young or new players step up. I wish Tank was not injured, wanted to see more of him. If we make the playoffs somehow awesome! Not expecting it.

      • Mike E. says:

        That’s it Tim. People are all over the place. We have to take a QB, RB, CB, DE with our 1st RD pick, but we only have one. I just hope we don’t go WR with it, but I’m pretty open to OL, QB, LB, TE, CB, or DE. I don’t think we have a dire need in the 1st for any of those, but if they feel the best guy is there at our pick, go for it

      • Tim Knight says:


  117. Tim Knight says:

    I feel the same way about our secondary. It’s different now and if Lippett comes back all good (Achilles), I really like Howard, Tank, McCain and Lippett as our main 4 corners with Jones and McDonald at S. Let the backups to these guys work itself out. I don’t think we need a DB top priority, but as always, BPA is always a factor.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      We’ve been lucky to be able to keep Aiken as really a pure ST player even though he takes the spot of a DB. He’s pretty good in the way that little fucker who came in with Zack and went to NE. Izzo!

      • Tim Knight says:


        Aikens has a role and he knows what it is and plays it well. He’s very good on STs and serviceable as a DB adding some size. He could easily make the team in that role again next year.

  118. Mike E. says:

    Wow, just read Chargers TE Hunter Henry is on IR with a lacerated kidney. He was having a great year.

  119. olddolphan says:

    SOMEWHAT DISAPPOINTING FIRST HALF in Boca Raton Bowl. YET, FAU leads Akron 21-3 at halftime. OWLS are 3-3 on 4th down conversions, including a balsy call by Kiffin on 4th and 3 from Florida Atlantic’s 27!!! Star of the game has been QB Jason Driscoll, whose calm command of this up-tempo offense has been the difference in this game. GUARANTEE FAU will try to put the pedal down in the second half.
    FAU’s basketball team playing at Texas Tech on DIRECTV Ch 653-1. Big underdog Owls trail only 27-25 to the 9-1 Red Raiders late in the first half.

  120. mf13ss says:

    Only 1 of our Phins made the Pro-Bowl (so far) this year: Reshad Jones.

  121. Randy says:

    Ah, draft talk in December….the life of a Dolphins fan.

  122. son of a son of a shula says:

    Way to go #20

  123. Randy says:

    Did I ever tell you fellas about the time when I found this big hitting safety out of Georgia back in 2010 that I said the Dolphins should draft in the middle rounds? 😉😊😏

  124. son of a son of a shula says:

    Current numbers that may one day be in the Dolphins ring of honor:

    Big playoff wins if not a SB would sure help are:

    You wanna say 17 here but a lot can happen
    Maybe with a few more seasons a 32!

  125. mf13ss says:

    What I’m about to post are thoughts on our run-Defense… and don’t ask me why I chose run-Defense first, I haven’t the answer. I took a couple of hours examining our weaknesses in this department by cross-referencing several resources and presented some options to fix the problems.

    I’m going to do the same for our pass-Defense, our pass-Offense, and our run-Offense.

    Your input would be appreciated. If you have a player in mind (via the Draft, FA, or in-house young buck) who could help in this department, post your thoughts.

    • Tim Knight says:

      To me a lot of our issues on defense are a lot of newbees. Communication, chemistry and continued progress by young players. That alone should get better. The offense being better would make the current defense look better. We really have revamped the defense and have also taken some hits with injuries. I think as is, we’re better in 2018.

  126. mf13ss says:

    Defense in ’18

    How to fix our run-stopping ability (#13 in yards, #24 in TDs, T-#16-20 with 4.2 YPC)

    1) Cam Wake should be relegated as a pass-rushing specialist at this point in his career. Re-sign William Hayes and start him over Wake.

    2) The RE combo of Branch and Harris is a liability against the run (5.10 ALY: 30th in the NFL, per Football Outsiders). Could Cam Malveaux be the answer? Maybe draft a stout RE? FA doesn’t look good ATM.

    3) ALL of our LBs are VERY sub-par against the run (best is Kiko Alonso: #58 run-stopping LB, per PFF). Can any of our young bucks step up? Maybe draft a 3-down OLB? Paul Posluszy (cheap) or Tahir Whitehead (more expensive) in FA?

    A thought: cut Timmons at the $2.75 dead cap figure in ’18 and allocate some of his money to the younger Tahir Whitehead (27 years old). Whitehead has been in Detroit since ’12 and should have a pretty good grasp of what Jim Washburn was installing here with Suh. He’s a top-10 run-stuffing LB per PFF this year, was 1 tackle shy of 100 last year, and can play both the MIKE and the WILL (positional versatility). Last month, he replaced Jaraad Davis as the Lions’ dime LB on a full-time basis. He should be able to be what we brought Timmons here to be… only (hopefully) cheaper, better, and younger.

    • mf13ss says:

      PS: I’m not worried about our DTs… we’re really good there (6th in the NFL per Football Outsiders).

      PSS: I’m not concerned about the run against our bigger, longer, and stronger DBs. Hence, I didn’t include them here.

  127. mf13ss says:

    Audi for the evening… I’ll check back in the morning.

  128. Tim Knight says:

    The way we seem to be lining up at LB looks like this will some flexibility.
    SOLB Timmons/Anthony
    MLB Allen/Hull
    WOLB Alonso/Hewitt

    • Ken says:

      I am sorry but that roster makes me nervous.

      • Tim Knight says:

        If we had a healthy Tannehill and no Cutler learning/conditioning curve early on, what do you think our record would be? I’d say 9-4 or 8-6. Our defense was out there by themselves trying to salvage games with no complimentary football from the offense for at least 4 games. But we still had a lot of issues all season and RT could have had some rough moments as well. I’m not worried about the defense moving forward. We have to get better up front on the OL and add some youth at TE.

        This is my opinion, but Tannehill is better than Cutler/Moore.

      • Tim Knight says:

        McMillan will be back, he wasn’t part of that list. Our LB corps is very new and young.

        You don’t act like a 2017 2nd rd pick is not in the mix anymore because he missed the season with an ACL injury as a rook. It happens all the time. He got hurt in the first PS game in early August. He’ll be a full year by that time in 2018. 9-12 month recovery period depending on the player.

      • Tim,
        I think the thing you are discounting here is that Tannehill did what he did last season with a last place schedule. When you consider we’re playing a much tougher schedule than last year there’s absolutely NO guarantee we’d be doing any better than what we are right now. MAYBE we have one more win but you cannot say with any certainty that we’d have a winning record with Tannehill in there from day one. I’m sorry man but that statement doesn’t hold water.

  129. olddolphan says:

    FAU DESTROYS AKRON 50-3!!! Yes, this was NOT one of Florida Atlantic’s better games, yet they still blew out the #2 team in the MAC. WHAT AN ABSOLUTELY AMAZING TURN AROUND at FAU performed by Lane Kiffen. FAU was 3-9 their last 3 seasons. NOW, under Kiffen, FAU has the second longest winning streak in Division I football (10 games, exceeded only by UCF’s 13 game streak).

    TWO years ago, I thought FAU would lose its 2018 season opener at Oklahoma BY 70 POINTS or MORE!! – – NOW, I think FAU has a chance to make this game competitive. The Owls will lose 2 key offensive linemen but, otherwise, they’ll return virtually all of their key players, including QB Driskell and RB Singletary, who was AP third string All-American.

    Applications for admission to FAU are up 35% since FAU’s football season started, according to president John Kelly. All of a sudden, FAU is no longer “that little state university nobody has heard of. ” iN FACT, enrollment (now just over 30,000) could approach 33,000 for next September’s term.

  130. wyoming85 says:

  131. Tim Knight says:

    I meant 9-5 not 9-4, or 8-6 with Tannehill. I don’t think we would have had some of those bad no competition games on offense. Go ahead and rip me for it, I believe this. LOL

    • It’s what you believe but there’s no guarantee that would be the case. We’ve got a tougher schedule than last season. Maybe we have one more win but I highly doubt we have a winning record at this point because he’s not the type of guy who can do that; be the difference between where we are now and have a winning record.

  132. We still have difficulty stopping the run and covering te’s and rb’s with our LB’s. I’d say that LB is most definitely a priority. We keep plugging holes at LB with has beens from FA instead of getting young guys with range who can tackle and fixing it once and for all. It’s the offensive line of the defense.

    • wyoming85 says:

      I’m all for BPA in the first and the best OL in the second!

      Hell I’m even OK if they want to trade up for an OL in the late first if that’s who we want!

  133. Ken says:

    My assessment of our LBs has nothing to do with Tannehill. I just don’t think they are that good. I am tired of seeing constantly beaten in coverage. Timmons is very inconsistent. Allen always seems to be a step away from making a play. Anthony is only now just starting to see the field and I have yet to see him make an impact play. You make it sound as if McMillan will be a difference maker. He may wind up being that. However he has yet to take a snap in a game that matters so you can’t count on him just yet.

  134. olddolphan says:

    TOTALLY AGREE WITH PROF LOU’s statement that our group of LB’s are the “offensive line of the defense.” That said, our O-Line IS STILL the weakest part of our entire team!!! –And all this discussion of Quarterback A or Quarterback B IS MOSTLY IRRELEVANT. NO QB could have consistent success behind this O-Line. The only consistency would be that our QB’s consistently get the crap kicked out of them!!! All THREE of our starting QB’s this season spent serious time on the injury list!!! SO-O-O picking a TE or some other position other than O-Line in round one means we DON’T need one of the very best O-Linemen coming out of college. AND THAT’S A LIE!!!! –STUD O-LINEMAN in round one is our TOP PRIORITY. And many draftnicks believe there are 2-4 college boys coming out who rate being taken IN ROUND ONE at an offensive line position. So let’s stop all this horse shit and TAKE ONE so that, whoever is our QB in 2018, can have a chance of staying off the disabled list.
    ALREADY THINKING about Florida Atlantic’s opening game next season at OKLAHOMA!! –Do I think FAU can beat the Sooners in Norman?? – – NO. –DO I think we can hang with them for most of the game?? –YES. FAU’s relentless ground game (spiced with a few trick plays) gives the Owls a chance to keep the clock rolling while Devin Singletary and his pals eat up the clock. If Oklahoma thinks FAU is going to roll over and play dead in the first quarter, they are in for a surprise. But, between now and then, FAU is going to need to recruit 3-4 more stud defenders. I think, in talent rich south Florida, Lane Kiffen is capable of doing JUST THAT.

    GOOOOOO-O-O Owls!

  135. sb7mvp says:

    Most of our games were winnable this year. The schedule this year vs last year aren’t all that different. People keep bringing up last year’s schedule like it was a cakewalk. This is the NFL and you only get 16 games. Nearly every team is identical talent and coaching wise save for the few that remain at the top. You have to be focused and ready every single game. We weren’t this year, and last year we were. The QB makes a difference, losing the bye made a difference, losing home games made a difference.

  136. ocalarob says:

    I know how we can improve the LBer play,

    Take Nelson and Chubb, Nelson 1st and use that 4th to move up early in the 2nd to take Chubb, he looks like eddie lacy, devonte freeman type, heavy low to the ground beast, more importantly get a coach who has a complex understanding of run blocking schemes, get the ground game going and the LBers will be watching most of the game from the sidelines.

  137. ocalarob says:

    the most glaring problem may be at Guard with Bushrods pending FA’cy, will he hang up the cleats?
    can this guy from notre dame if that’s who we choose come in and be a day one starter? where’s Asiata? why hasn’t he developed?
    i’m not so sure as everyone else is about our OL being bad, they are all NFL talent OL.
    My concern is the reason they may look bad is due to scheme and coaching.

    verner is also a FA and the reason i mention him is that we are thin at CB so this could be a consideration early in the draft.

  138. ocalarob says:

    look at our sophisticated run blocking schemes LOL, everyone’s man on man!

  139. Rhino says:

    Did Jay Cutler play this role in Seinfeld??

  140. mf13ss says:

    This is our base 4-3 Defense and their run-stopping grades.

  141. mf13ss says:

    THIS should be our base 4-3 Defense and their run-stopping grades.

  142. mf13ss says:

    Notes on above images…

    1) Raekwon McMillan’s grade was PFF’s run-grade for him in college for ’16
    2) As you can see, our current LBs are horrible in run-stopping
    3) Tahir Whitehead would be a SIGNIFICANT upgrade and be what Timmons was supposed to be and probably cheaper
    4) Godchaux is only going to get better and better
    5) I’m giving Kiko a mulligan, thinking he’ll be back to himself in ’18
    6) Don’t know what to at RE. Andre Branch has taken a huge step back and Harris has been better than he at stopping the run this year. Harris should continue to get better and better
    7) Any one of our young buck LBs could emerge as well

    • mf13ss says:

      Roquan Smith could certainly be in play with our 1st Round pick, and he would likely be our SAM backer to replace Timmons. It should be noted that Roquan isn’t exactly nice in coverage.

  143. mf13ss says:

    IMO, the ultimate answer at LB should/would be an elite pass-covering specialist who can tango with the stud TEs of the NFL… especially Gronk.

    With that stated, I’m going to turn my attention to our pass Defense.

  144. Mike E. says:

    I actually think what Rob is saying is closer to the truth as to why we have such problems on defense. It’s not just running the ball, but IMO, just having an effective offense period, that puts point on the board. Our offense was so bad in too many games, and a lot of times, we moved the ball, but either turned it over, or penalties forced us to punt. If we turn that around next season, the defense will look better, because they won’t be out there as much, and won’t have the pressure of carrying the team. Stats are like dominoes, everything you do as a team touches another domino. When you falter on offense, it hurts the defense.

    • mf13ss says:

      I absolutely agree with this as well. We do have some problems on Defense, but not NEARLY as many as we do on Offense.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I believe the defense is being revamped this year and the future could be bright. The offense needs upgrades on the OL, at TE and better overall depth.

  145. Mike E. says:

    So glad there are no Thursday night games this week. They BLOW!

  146. Mike E. says:

    Did anyone happen to catch Eddie Royal on Good Morning Football on NFLN? He said pretty much what I’ve always thought. People just see Jay Cutler as a guy that doesn’t care, but it’s not even close to the truth. Check it out . . .

  147. Tim Knight says:

    I think most of it comes down to complementary football and we’ve had too many games where the offense gave the defense no support. We’d be in a lot better shape if we didn’t have those outright horrible offensive performances.

  148. Tim Knight says:

    Armando Salguero‏Verified account @ArmandoSalguero 18m18 minutes ago
    Jermon Bushrod and Julius Thomas (foot) are going on Injured reserve.

    Duarte and Eric Smith on the active roster.

  149. D says:

    To go back to the non TD tD, Ken i think does the best job of explaining exactly how i see it. Its pretty close to the same thing that happened with Dez Bryant in the playoffs against Detroit, again costing a team a victory, and just like that was a catch, so was the one Jesse James did. two feet and make a football move, or a knee, elbow, etc and a football move, and WTF could turning and stretching out for the plane of the goal line be if not a football move. He tried and successfully did move the ball forward after the catch, thats a football move.

  150. sb7mvp says:

    Time to get Farty

  151. stangerx says:

    Ross is spending $60 mil on tennis courts and facilities outside of Hardrock to keep the Miami open here, which I think is great….but do wonder how it is going to impact tailgating. Some of this might be temporary, but are we going be able to party on the new courts?

  152. Rockphin says:

    Here’s a nugget for you:

    The eight starters on IR accounted for nearly $40 million in salary cap space in 2017.

  153. The Flying Pig says:

    Farty for Duarte!!!

  154. D says:

    Im thinking Bushrod and Thomas might have been playing on those injuries and likely could have remained playing on those injuries, as i don’t remember any events where they seemed to sustain them during the game. Its also convenient that we just got to this point as the season pretty much hit a out of playoff consideration point. This is probably more evaluation time than anything and i don’t blame them. I think that it could also point to likelihood that neither are back next year, or they are trying to get an early jump on the decision based upon recovery outlook. Ill be happy to get a better look at some of these guys, i have been hoping to see Duarte active on our roster, and being its Thomas and not Fasano that’s out, we likely get to see a healthy dose of him early on. I hope we get to see Asiata more so than Smith. If we insert some young guys we might as well get a bunch of them in the mix and see how they do.

  155. D says:

    I think Jay Cutler is fine, i think he need to be the same Jay every day to be called good, and i think if he was, he wouldn’t just be called good he probably would be pretty close to great. Still as is the case, i think we have to look for something better next year, and though the return of Tanny may be better, i think we owe it to ourselves to be prepared to take the next step past him, even, by selecting a QB who can potentially be better. We dont know how Tanny is going to return, we dont know if he is going to pick up where he left off, and we dont really know how much further past where he was he can reach. So i think thats too many unanswered questions to put off yet another year of not showing we expect more by trying to do better. It may help Tanny over the hump, just by putting a legitimate threat there with him. He does have a very competitive nature to him, we just haven’t challenged him at all.

    • Mike E. says:

      I agree with this. He really has never had any legitimate competition here, except maybe his rookie year, but Garrard got injured and that was that. It may raise his level of play, competition usually does. At worst, if we draft a young QB that gives Tanny a good run, we have a future QB on the roster whether Tanny excels from the competition or not.

  156. Rockphin says:

    From the PBP:

    When the Dolphins give up a touchdown where a receiver prevents a receiver from working through a screen, it’s called a well-executed “rub” or a “pick.” Ask Jarvis Landry. Too often when Miami does it, it seems it’s called a “penalty.”…

    I COMPLETELY AGREE!! Fucking Cheatreaots make a living on this type of play and get called on offensive PI ….. well never!

  157. mf13ss says:

    Welcome to my man crush list, Uchenna Nwosu

  158. Mike E. says:

    What’s up with Derby? IS he still on the roster?

  159. Rockphin says:

    Uchenna Nwosu?

    We have to pass on him, sorry.

    I cannot pronounce his name!

  160. Mike E. says:


    I don’t worry as much about pronouncing Nwosu as much as I worry about saying I’d love to have Chubb in my backfield. lol

  161. Rockphin says:

    At worst, if we draft a young QB that gives Tanny a good run, we have a future QB on the roster whether Tanny excels from the competition or not.

    Plus, how nice would it be to develop a young guy and trade him (or Tannehill) for a high draft pick like the Patriots** have done with Jimmy G and Matt Cassell.

    I am all for drafting a QB. This year and every year (within reason)

    • Tim Knight says:

      The Pats used a 2nd rd pick on Jimmy G only to trade him for one 3 years later. The trade with Cassel also included Mike Vrabel but I get your point. 🙂

  162. Mike E. says:


    They would definitely have to move the tailgate areas around, no way they would allow people to ruin those courts.

    • stangerx says:

      Might be some way to turn parking lots into practice courts come the tourney, but for sure going to be a different plan with the permanent stuff. What is in the pic is all the best tailgates on the home side. We didn’t set up there, but take them out and would be lots of spillover. Will always have a place to set-up though.

  163. mf13ss says:

    This is our nickel package, 4-man (D-Line) pass-rush. The D-Line numbers are pass-rushing grades, all other numbers are coverage grades.

    • mf13ss says:

      Defense in ’18

      How to fix our pass-Defense ability (#15 in yards, #24 in TDs, #20 with 6.4 YPP)

      1) If we relegate Cam Wake to pass-rushing specialist, he’ll be fresh all the time.

      2) Charles Harris is only going to get better and better.

      3) Jordan Phillips is a better pass-rusher than Davon Godchaux, Godchaux is a better run-stuffer than Phillips.

      4) Pay NO attention to the pass-defense grades of our DBs. Our Safeties are nice and our CBs are young, playing well, and will be nice next year.

      5) Matt Burke and Lou Anarumo need to focus on man-to-man coverage and not go so zone-heavy.

      6) We’re #25 in the NFL in Adjusted Sack Rate, per Football Outsiders. We need more pass-rushers… can’t have enough of them. Kiko Alonso and Lawrence Timmons are the #11 and #12 pass-rushing LBs (not EDGE defenders), respectively, per PFF (pretty darn good). If only they could defend the run better…

      7) If we could get an elite pass-coverage specialist at the LB position, we’d be much better off. We’re #28 in the NFL vs TEs, per Football Outsiders. This MUST get fixed


      – Stephone Anthony is our best coverage LB at 67.7 (t- #37 in the NFL)
      – Eagles’ LB Nigel Bradham (28 years old) is slated to become a FA after this season. He’s the #5 pass-defending LB in the NFL… but he’s a liability against the run (run-grade is roughly equal to Kiko Alonso)
      – If we continue to play a zone-heavy scheme, ballhawk David Amerson is slated to become a FA after this season. He’s the longer, stronger type of DB that our team covets. He will flourish in a zone-heavy scheme while he’s been up-and-down in a man-to-man-heavy scheme
      – We could use another pass-rusher on the edge for the future, due to Cam Wake’s age. Keep an eye on Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio

      • Tim Knight says:

        We play man/press quite often as well. All teams mix up coverages, you have to or teams will adjust to your one way of doing things and exploit it.

        I feel this defense needs to keep building on the core and youth they have and the more they play together the better they’ll be. Lots of LBs and DBs have been in and out of the lineup all season. We need to do a better job of staying healthy as well but that seems to be a league wide issue.

  164. mf13ss says:

    IMO, we’re probably a starting LB and another young edge rusher away from being a nice Defense. If Matt Burke learns from his mistakes and the players continue to gel, we should be good.

    LB: give me one of either Tahir Whitehead (SAM, stud run-stopper), Nigel Bradham (WILL, stud pass-defender), or Paul Posluszy (best of all worlds, but an ageing stop-gap) in FA. Of course, there is the Draft. JMO, but we should address the Offense on days 1 & 2 of the Draft.

    EDGE: TOO EXPEN$IVE in FA, look to the Draft.

    PRIORITY RE-SIGN: William Hayes

    • Tim Knight says:

      I don’t think LB is the key at all to making the SB. It starts on the other side of the ball. We could be a playoff team with this defense as is if the offense wasn’t a no-show so many times.

      • mf13ss says:

        I hear ya, Tim… and I don’t disagree. I’m doing a breakdown of run-D, pass-D, run-O, and pass-O.

        I’m done with the Defense now and I don’t really see anything that’s GLARING. My takes on Defense are just ways we could improve. I agree with you that most of our issues are a 1st-year DC, the Defense needs to gel, and our Offense is problematic for our Defense.

        Offense is next up!

      • mf13ss says:

        And for what it’s worth… I feel we’re going to part ways with Lawrence Timmons. He hasn’t played as advertised and he’s not worth the $$$ we’re paying him. His AWOL episode made him relatively ‘cut-friendly’ for next year.

      • Tim Knight says:

        It’s all good. I like the core we have on defense. The offense needs to be revamped in some areas. Yet I like some of what we have there as well. I don’t think we not a lot, I think we need some more special. That can also come from young players already on the team who have not broken out yet. This season has been a disappointment but I like enough of the team to feel confident we can be good in 2018. We need to add a few more pieces.

      • mf13ss says:

        Agreed in general, man. I pretty much feel the same way. Just a few players here and there and NAIL the Draft.

  165. ElephantRider says:

    Have to build thru the draft. Tough part is hitting on those picks…

    • mf13ss says:


      Building through FA is a recipe for disaster. *cough, cough*, Mike Tannenbaum.

      However, adding 1 or 2 key FAs is WISE. My rule of thumb? 1 on Offense, 1 on Defense… and they do NOT have to be ‘blockbuster’ signings (*cough, cough*, Mike Tannenbaum again)!

      • ElephantRider says:

        FA should be for just solid positional guys. Off you’re close, then go get that blockbuster guy to put you over the top.

        This ain’t baseball where the the rich teams get to just keep spending….have to hold back sometimes and hope you are drafting guys consistently good. Problem is keeping them later on…

    • Tim Knight says:

      And they have done that. Lot’s of draft picks on this team. Lot’s of additions from FA and UDFA. We’re not in peril, it wasn’t our year will all kinds of nonsense – injuries, change in personnel, off-field stuff etc. It was an off year. I still believe we can be good in 2018. Yes he said that! LOL

  166. mf13ss says:

    You guys do not… DO NOT want to see our lack of run-blocking. HOLY $#!t it’s bad. Kenyan Drake is a THOROUGHBRED running behind these nincompoops!

  167. olddolphan says:

    MF-13; Todd McShay’s first mock draft for 2018 is out today. He’s forecasting the Dolphins will select 6’5″ 329 pound LG Quenton Nelson of Notre Dame with their 1st round pick. According to McShay, Nelson is the most NFL-ready offensive lineman in the draft. He believes Nelson “is ready to start right now in the NFL,” which is MUSIC TO MY EARS!! McShay believes a few O-Linemen may be taken ahead of Nelson, thereby increasing the chance that Nelson will still be available if Miami selects at it’s current position of 14. Your reaction, Mr. Spikes?

    And how’d you like that major league ass-kicking Florida Atlantic put on Akron last night?

    • mf13ss says:

      Mr. Campbell,

      I’ve been saying it for a while now… Quenton Nelson is a very special player. He can play in ANY scheme/system being he’s a stud run-blocker, a stud pass-protector, he can pull pretty well (not to mention he’s 330 pounds!), and he seems to be ‘clean’.

      If we take him in the 1st Round, I’ll be THRILLED!!! So will Tannehill and Drake!!!

      • mf13ss says:

        If we land both Quenton Nelson and Frank Ragnow in the Draft, you will be a VERY happy man as it pertains to our O-Line!

      • olddolphan says:

        Well, Mr. Spikes, if you and I both like Nelson, I’d say there’s close to NO chance T-BOMB will pick him, if memory serves me correctly. But, even a blind squirrel finds good food on occasion, right?

      • mf13ss says:

        We’ll see. If Tannenbaum/Grier flunk this Draft, I’m going to be writing some letters…

  168. Rockphin says:

    You guys, your opinions on free agency is not practical in the real world. Teams get 7 draft picks per year. Most will be out of the NFL in an average of 3 years, (just the way it is, that’s the average career) You can’t replace 53 players every 5-6 years, even if you hit on and keep 80% of your draft picks. You must use FA too to fill out your roster.

    That being said, I agree it should be done to supplement your good drafts and big $ FA’s should be steered away from unless they are serious game changers. ($114M DT’s for example, not)

    The best teams in the league draft well, are able to trade away players because they are behind better players and then draft replacement players for the guys the traded guys were sitting behind. (was that sentence twisted enough)

  169. Rockphin says:

    Tim Knight says:
    December 20, 2017 at 3:00 pm

    The Pats used a 2nd rd pick on Jimmy G only to trade him for one 3 years later. The trade with Cassel also included Mike Vrabel but I get your point. 🙂

    I could have pointed out conversely how many freakin 2nd round picks he Dolphins have traded away for QB’s over the years. Joey Harrington anyone?

  170. olddolphan says:

    La. TECH DESTROYING SMU 42-3 in the SECOND QUARTER OF THE FRISCO BOWL!!! – – Rack up another win for Conference USA in the post season bowls. I think C-USA is 5-2 in the bowl season already.

  171. mf13ss says:

    These are our run-blocking numbers, and it’s beyond disheartening. Everybody’s number is based on run-blocking, except for Drake, of course. Drake’s number is how well he’s run behind this monstrosity, and I feel it should be MUCH HIGHER.

    • mf13ss says:

      Put Quenton Nelson next to Tunsil, and I’m SURE Tunsil’s performance will improve in this department. Put Frank Ragnow or Billy Price at Center, and we’re talking about a formidable left-mid O-Line in this department.

  172. Rockphin says:

    All the poaching of practice squads of players and stashing of players on practice squads is part of the free agent system too. Free agency is the rule of the land in the NFL and is so because the players insisted on it. The best teams just use free agency better as well.

    Then there is the overriding factor in the entire equation. Luck. The best teams are lucky. This has been shown again and again. How many “great” coaches have there been? How many great GMs have there been? How many teams have those greats worked for? Everyone fails eventually.

  173. Rockphin says:

    MF13, what is the score for an average run blocker.

  174. Tim Knight says:

    Put Quenton Nelson next two Tunsil and Pouncey and they all look better. 😉

  175. Rockphin says:

    Tim Knight says:
    December 20, 2017 at 9:58 pm

    Feeley was a 2nd, Harrington a 5th. Can we not re-live those days of sigh………? LOL

    LOL that’s why I used the cheatriots in my example instead of our past first go around.

  176. mf13ss says:

    These are our pass-pro numbers. All WRs’ and Thomas’ numbers are strictly receiving-based, here. Drake’s number is pass-pro-based (and he doesn’t get enough credit for it, IMO).

    Jay Cutler hasn’t done too shabby, having only been sacked 20x this year: his pocket-presence has been his ally in these matters.

    • mf13ss says:

      And I don’t agree with the WRs’ numbers, so pay them no attention. Jarvis should be higher, Stills should be higher, and DeVante should be lower. Again, pay them no attention. Focus more on the BIG UGLIES up front.

  177. mf13ss says:

    IMO, the answers on Offense are plain and simple: fix the O-Line. I’m STILL of the opinion that we have a STELLAR WR corps with Jarvis, DeVante, and Stills. Don’t believe me? Try asking Jay Cutler to form chemistry with them behind our petty O-Line, having coming out of retirement with no OTAs, post- arm surgery on a new team, battling through rib injury and a concussion.

    Know who HAS chemistry with Jarvis, DeVante, and Stills? RYAN TANNEHILL… and he’s going to be our starting QB in ’18: PROTECT THE ‘HILL!

    KENYAN DRAKE is REAL. Fix the O-Line, and he may become supernatural. Gase states that he doesn’t want a ‘featured back’ (LOL), but he used Ajayi in that role last year… and Drake is a stellar receiver, unlike Ajayi. This almost makes me rethink drafting my man Rashaad Penny to augment Drake… being Drake could be a featured back as Ajayi was.

    Time to draft a NICE TE (Mike E and others will like this!). Having landed on I/R (foot), per Armando (thanks, Tim… I was too busy analyzing our team to break news), Julius Thomas’ days are all but over… barring a major paycut in ’18.

    It’s also time to draft a QB at some point this year (and y’all KNOW this)…

    It’s nothing less than ASTONISHING that we’re still in the playoff hunt — entering week 16 — when ya look at ALL we’ve gone through this season. Now fix the funkin’ O-Line, Tannenbaum/Grier… and do NOT ‘patch it’ with more defunct FAs, just because they can play Center in the event and probability that Mike Pouncey goes down, yet again, SMH. Pouncey is a mere shadow of his former self.

    GET ME 2 OF THESE 3 IN THE DRAFT: Quenton Nelson, Frank Ragnow, and Billy Price!!!

    • I could live with that. Any number of combinations I could actually live with including Braden Smith in there as well and/or a playmaker on the defensive side of the ball.

      • rgs322 says:

        I agree with both of you guys, Quenton Nelson or Billy Price in the 1st and Ragnow or Braden Smith in the 3rd. …though it wouldn’t shock me if both Ragnow and Smith move up into the 2nd round come draft time.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t think we need to shake up the we unit either
      I would focus on OL before WR

      TE and LB are also good spots to upgrade

  178. ElephantRider says:

    Nice reading your stuff M

    Here we are agian….OL OL OL……maybe this will finally be the off-season that pans out

  179. Rockphin says:

    looking at the formations and ratings for the players MF-13 has posted above, it appears that we have a problem at both guard positions. Who knew?

  180. Rockphin says:

    I wonder if Asiata will ever develop into anything or if he is just another wasted draft pick

  181. olddolphan says:

    Major League Baseball has just shot themselves in the foot in Tampa Bay with the trade of Evan Longoria to the Giants for a bunch of nobodies. NEXT SEASON, the Rays and the Marlins will field two MINOR league teams that couldn’t have winning seasons at the Triple A level. Expect attendance at these two teams’ home games to average LESS THAN 10,000 fannies in the seats this coming season.
    Meanwhile, Stuart Sternberg, primary owner of the Rays, wants taxpayers to pay about 80 per cent of the cost of a proposed new stadium in downtown Tampa. I’d say there’s a better chance that Trump will join the NAACP than there is for such a proposal to pass here in Tampa Bay. IN FACT, a clear majority now want major league baseball OUT OF HERE!! And that’s also true in the greater Miami area, too!

    Baseball urgently needs an NFL/NHL style salary cap, with teeth in it. The bottom teams should be forced to spend at least 75% of what the New York, Boston and LA franchises are allowed to spend. Competitive balance allows an expansion franchise like Las Vegas a chance to reach the Stanley Cup Finals THIS YEAR, their first season!! Competitive balance allows smaller cities like Green Bay a chance to win the Super Bowl.

    Rob Manfred can tout revenue sharing all he wants. It’s NOT WORKING!!! Empty ball parks bear grim testimony to that truth.

    • Mike E. says:

      I agree 100% OD – Baseball definitely needs a hard salary cap and floor system. The fact that one team, such as the SF Giants can spend over $150M, and another team like the A’s spend $23M is absurd. There just can’t be that much of a gap.

  182. ocalarob says:

    Mike E. says:
    December 20, 2017 at 10:50 am
    Stats are like dominoes, everything you do as a team touches another domino. When you falter on offense, it hurts the defense.


  183. Phindog says:

    FIRST !!

  184. Mike E. says:

    I have Greg Zuerlein in one of my FF leagues, and he’s now on IR, and for some reason, after Playoff Week 1, you can’t make any more roster moves. That’s crazy! I have a replacement for every position except K.

    • stangerx says:

      Can only guess that rule is in there to stop teams not in the playoffs from dropping players to selectively help those who are.

      • Mike E. says:

        I guess that’s possible, but if that was going to happen, why not last week also? That’s a good 8 or more points I just lost, which as we all know, can be huge in FF

      • Mike E. says:

        Not only that, but this is a keeper league, so no team is letting go of a prime player

    • stangerx says:

      Still thinking that the rule is in there to stop someone from gaming the system….even if it never happened in your league it might have in others. Sorta like the undroppable player thing that is standard. Even in a keeper league must be someone like a hot replacement running back who could help but wouldn’t be kept for the next year. Have been tempted to drop reserves at times to help a team was hoping would upset a stronger team in the playoffs (even if held off cause figured wasn’t fair).

  185. The Flying Pig says:

    I started watching Roquin Smith after some of you mentioned him

    Wow he’s fast

    He wouldn’t be a bad pick at all

  186. Rockphin says:

    the steakhouse is McMillan & Smith

  187. naplesfan2010 says:

    I also like the center from Alabama … Bozeman?

  188. naplesfan2010 says:

    We need two new OL one of which must be an OG.
    I am wondering (worrying?) if the coaches think Davis is starting guard quality?

  189. Mike E. says:

    One more FF issue. I have 4 really good RB’s, and this league, like most has a flex spot. I have Zeke, Shady, Kamara and Drake. It’s going to be very difficult for me to take out Shady, but I think Drake might be the better play this week, but I would hate myself if Drake has a poor game, and Shady goes off. I think Zeke and Kamara are must play, but we know how NE will do their best to try and limit the opposing team’s best player, and that’s definitely Shady.

    • stangerx says:

      My advice is to sit Kamera in that league and Toba’s too. 🙂

      You have three of the top six or seven RB plays and Drake, who would still be a sure start on most FF teams. So smart play is not Drake, but then imagine watching him run for a long score against KC. Sometimes more about how you feel after.

      • Mike E. says:

        LOL! So you like Shady over Drake, huh? It’s a tough one, I feel like Drake might have a huge game against KC, whereas Shady might have his hands full in NE. At this point, you gotta go with what brung ya, which is McCoy, but I think Drake has the better matchup, and if Williams isn’t playing again, he’s getting almost all the work for sure.

  190. Mike E. says:


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