It doesn’t really matter who we are playing, when in reality, we’re just playing against ourselves. Mistakes, penalties, miscommunications, all of the above, is what we’ve been seeing the entire season. We can blame a lot of extenuating circumstances on these problems, Tannehill going down before the season, Lippett going down before the season, Raekwon going down just as the season began, the hurricane postponing our first home game, and rendering us “BYE-less”, Cutler not having enough time to get in sync after “retiring”, but despite all those negative things, it’s on the Head Coach, Adam Gase, to have his team prepared, right from the start of the season, right out of the gate. Well, that’s something young Mr. Gase has a helluva lot of work to do on my fellow Dolphins fans and friends. Last year, through 5 games, we were 1-4 scoring 14.2 points per game. This year we were worse, scoring 12.2 points per game, but miraculously, managed a 3-2 record. Yes, I’m only looking at a small sliver of each season, but every “quarter” of the season counts, and Gase hasn’t managed to get our team off to a good start yet.
Just for comparison, the Indianapolis Colts desperate for a QB after starter Andrew Luck wasn’t responding to treatment and was therefore unable to play, traded for Patriots backup QB Jacoby Brissett on September 2nd, and Brissett came in relief for QB Scott Tolzien in Game 1, and never looked back, keeping the starting job for the rest of the season, and managed to score 97 points in the first 5 games for a 19.4 point average. How is it the Colts can muster a full TD per game better than our team, when Jay Cutler already was familiar with the offense, and had better talent around him on offense? I understand no comparison is perfect, but Adam Gase hasn’t gotten the preparation job done well enough to start the season. He’s learning, this is only his 2nd year as a Head Coach, but I hope he looks long and hard at that, as well as the team in general being extremely undisciplined and sloppy the entire season. We’re averaging 8.5 penalties for 72.7 yards per game, 128 penalties in 15 games for 1090 yards. Not to get OD any more riled up than he already is, but Don Shula had the Dolphins for decades as one of the least penalized teams. To be fair, Shula was also head of the officiating committee for the NFL, which undoubtedly paid dividends in that regard.
More disturbing things. Getting blown out in games. Losing 20-6 to the Jets (Last second TD made it 6 for us), and then 20-0 against the Saints, which in essence has us losing 40-0 save for a last second garbage time TD to Devante Parker A.K.A. The Invisible Man. 40-0 to the Ravens, 45-21 to the Panthers. No question Gase has work to do, and I hope he studies these games where our team looked like it didn’t belong on the same field with our opponent. It wasn’t always necessarily from start to finish in a game, but there were breakdowns that snowballed to eventually take us completely out of contention. Gase is the Head Coach, and he must get a handle on these things. Every team has a bad game, but we have had multiple bad games this season. The Cleveland Browns for instance, have had 1 game this season of a 20 point or more loss, a 31-7 loss to the Bengals. For all intents and purposes, we had 4.
I didn’t write this to tear up Adam Gase, but the truth is, he deserves criticism, and I have hope he will be able to correct these shortcomings. Getting the O-line corrected has to be a high priority, and adding a dangerous pass catching TE should be as well. We’ll also need to add another RB to our stable to go along with Kenyan Drake and possibly Damien Williams. Beyond that, there a few places where an upgrade of depth would be welcome, such as the D-line, specifically DE, where we’re a little long in the tooth, and maybe an upgrade at LB as well. I would like it if we draft a young QB to groom, and compete for a job, but it doesn’t have to be in RD 1or RD2, especially at the expense of a top OL and TE.
If the FO can do their job well, then the pressure to succeed will surely be on Head Coach Adam Gase’s shoulders, because the excuses are evaporating quickly. Assuming Ryan Tannehill is healthy, and is able to get back close to the way he was playing before his injury, and the O-line is fixed, and we added some better depth at other positions, there’s no good reason for us to get off to a poor start like we have the past 2 seasons. Gase will likely have some tough work to do to choose his staff, unless he decides he wants to stand pat with the staff, which I honestly hope isn’t the case.
I know this article just looks like a negative piece on our head Coach, but it’s essentially just a notice that I’m holding the man accountable. Besides our record, there are some disturbing things like player development. Leonte Carroo III for example. Why make such an effort to acquire a player, and not find even the smallest opportunity to see what he can do. I’d play Carroo instead of Parker, and I’d give Grant a lot more touches instead of Stills. We know what Stills can do, I’d like to see more of Grant. I know some will say Carroo doesn’t practice well or whatever, well find the right freaking buttons to press and GET HIM TO PRACTICE WELL! We made a big investment, find a way to motivate the kid. Grant is a little playmaker, get him more touches. He has 13 to date, 3 rushes, 10 receptions, LET HIM PLAY! Carroo? 7 receptions for 69 yards. Last year, Carroo had 3 receptions for 29 yards and 1 TD. So in 2 seasons, Carroo has 10 receptions for 98 yards and 1 TD. It sure seemed like they really wanted this kid, squandering multiple picks to get him, and this is what we get to show for it? FIX THAT!
The 2018 offseason will be a huge one for both the front office of GM Chris Grier, Executive VP of Football Operations Mike Tannenbaum, and Head Coach Adam Gase. 10-6 in ’16 was nice, but 6-10 or 7-9 in ’17 not so much. Gase will get a pass this season from owner Steve Ross due to losing starting QB Ryan Tannehill just before the season. He gets some leeway from me as well, but I still find the discipline, or lack thereof, excessive penalties, blowout losses and lack of player development problematic, so if Adam Gase has a list of areas in need of improvement, I hope those are on the list, and somewhere near the top.
Finsmob Unleashed 
I feel when looking for a QB you really need to find a guy who can be a pocket passer and not rely on other traits. If they have other skill sets great, but they have to be able to stand in there and deliver the ball before all the other stuff.
It’s kind of funny, with all the talk about RT taking sacks and being the most sacked QB in 5 seasons at 213, Russell Wilson another mobile QB has been sacked 245 times in 6 seasons with a game to go.
Mike E. says:
December 28, 2017 at 5:14 pm
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I think the following teams need a QB, and there are a couple that may not invest early
Jets, Browns, Jags, Chargers, Broncos, Redskins, Giants, Saints and Cards
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Id add GB and NE to that list, despite what they have, they are needing to prepare now fro whats not too far down the line. Hell, i’d even take the Jags off that list at this point, but id also add Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Indy.
Tim,
You truly are amazing. I used to use Seattle as an example of a horrible OL and a QB who makes plays anyway to support our OL and suggest it wasn’t ALL their fault and maybe…just maybe…had something to do with the QB playing behind them. Somehow, you use the same situation to support Tannehill. LMAO
It really wasn’t about that. I had forgotten Wilson has taken a lot of sacks when I was looking at some stats. The point was and these are two of the more mobile QBs in the league. It wasn’t about defending RT or saying Wilson is not as good or any of that.
Wilson has played big in some big games and poorly as well. The Seahawks have been more about being physical on defense and in the run game with Wilson being able to make some plays. Though I think he’s leading them more now than ever.
Relax!!! I talk about RT like I would about any other player. It’s just that he gets talked about more and is a lightning rod between fans. LOL
And he is your Bowery band days love child.
LOL
Mike E. says:
December 28, 2017 at 5:14 pm
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I think the following teams need a QB, and there are a couple that may not invest early
Jets, Browns, Jags, Chargers, Broncos, Redskins, Giants, Saints and Cards
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Id add GB and NE to that list, despite what they have, they are needing to prepare now fro whats not too far down the line. Hell, i’d even take the Jags off that list at this point, but id also add Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Indy.
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I think teams are starting to realize more than ever you have to have at least a competitive player at QB to survive and at least compete. Most teams will not have an elite QB but can still have successful seasons. Teams that have QBs playing who are not ready embarrass themselves. Not making the SB doesn’t make you bad. Losing more games than you win does.
Rodgers is also one of the most sacked QBs. All three are mobile and make plays with their legs. Yet they get sacked a lot. I think it’s buying more time vs. holding onto the ball too long trying to make a play. Not all sacks are bad. There are times in games where you can’t take one though.
its the instincts they have for escaping the pocket, Tanny just hasnt fully grasped the “no retreat” philosophy ya have to have. It would be much better for him to be moving forward, ball tucked right into the arms of a incoming DT, than stepping backwards into the arms of the incoming DE. Hell it would be better for us, but a much better hit to take for him, because he could at least prep for it.He was getting better at it towards the end of the year, and hopefully he will pick that up later, but any of his catastrophic strip sack fails have been because of this. Developing a better feel for moving in that pocket will be his biggest leap forward at this point.
Also as you said, he is going to be able to help us dramatically in the 3 and out category if he can just improve in that way.
Russell Wilson does know better about escaping the pocket, but he also chooses to run many times well before Tanny does. Russell Wilson very quickly determines if he feels like a pass play is going to develop and then takes off. He sometimes makes it back to the LOS and sometimes just behind it, but it counts as a sack no matter that he had already decided to turn it into a run (not really being flushed from the pocket) and no matter that he only lost 1 yard instead of 10ish. I bet if you looked at the number of yards lost by Wilson per sack, its a much smaller number than many other QB’s, same with Dak. The big upside they have over Tanny is they try to escape moving forward in the pocket, or they tend to slide left and right, and Tanny actually moves backwards which is where the OT’s are blocking their guy. If Tanny would just make it his instinct to move forward, wherever he can i think we would see a lot more Wilson like picking up of third downs on scrambles than we have previously. We would definitely not see as many strip sacks or large yardage lost sacks.
Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 1 (CLE): Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia (B+)
Round 2 Pick 4 (CLE): Martez Ivey, OT/OG, Florida (B+)
Round 2 Pick 12: Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma (B+)
Round 2 Pick 32 (CLE): Frank Ragnow, C/OG, Arkansas (B+)
Round 3 Pick 12: Luke Falk, QB, Washington State (A-)
Round 4 Pick 12: Uchenna Nwosu, OLB, Southern California (A-)
Round 4 Pick 31: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (B+)
Round 6 Pick 12: Sean Chandler, FS, Temple (A-)
Round 7 Pick 5: Cody Thompson, WR, Toledo (A)
Round 7 Pick 12: Arrion Springs, CB, Oregon (A)
Mike,
This is a late reply, but you’re right. This is a game where we can look at people. Sure. Give Caroo a shot. Who knows what can happen, but it can’t really hurt us as a team (moving forward to 2018).
That said, I just had a thought. Do you think his problems could have anything to do with Cutler? i’m totally speculating, but I would be surprised if Gase didn’t bring Cutler in with a healthy respect towards his veteran opinion. And if (I’m totally speculating…obviously) Cutler felt he wasn’t running routes or making reads the way Cutler wants, he might not be a great fit for developing this kid. I truthfully think our chance of learning anything actionable this week about Caroo is low, and the likelihood is that we’ll have to wait until next season to really find anything out.
All that blather completed, sure dude. Start him! It’s so rare to have a game that’s truly meaningless to experiment with, so he may as well do it.
He’s on IR
So that’s a little late I guess. LOL..things change quickly!
When you’re a Dolphins fan you’re told that you don’t make changes like the Giants did before the end of the season. This is why this team is mediocre.
who told you that?
We fired the last 2 head coaches mid season if I remember right
We’re on our 4th GM since 2007. That’s always awesome.
Giants get areal GM. We’re stuck with Tannenbaum and his toady.
Oh and the giants wish they were as mediocre as us! 😉
oh yeah, I’m sure they do
First time in Giants history they fired a coach in season. Lets go ahead and see how the 2-13 Giants do next year before we deem their experiment a success lol.
I agree Wilson is more savvy than RT with pressure, but Wilson gets himself in trouble with it too quickly as well. He turns is back on the rush with spin moves sometimes and loses more yardage than he ever should have.
There is plenty of film of RT doing some good escape pressure situations. To me it’s about his feel for what the offense is. He’s gone through a lot of coaches and personnel. He was also a young QB with not a lot of college experience at QB. He looked like he had settled down last year and was way more efficient than ever.
The bottom line on that is, hope for the knee to be good and that progress continues. 🙂
where is this film you speak of because I can’t find it. he showed a bit of escapability for the first time in his career last season but nothing of the sort in his first four years where he went into the fetal position more often than not.
this fantasizing about Tannehill being something he’s not isn’t healthy.
It never happens and he can’t throw anything but check downs and screens. LOL
2017 Ultimate Highlights huh?
It’s funny how you look at 8 good passes and just ignore the remainder of throws over his first 5 years.
LOL… it was made in 2017 and it’s not even all of it. Cheer up. 🙂
I want an ACTUAL quarterback Tim. A REAL quarterback. Not some guy who’s got a strong arm and so-called athletic ability playing the position who isn’t a REAL quarterback. That, in and of itself, will make a huge difference on offense.
When you have a guy who KNOWS what to do in any given situation it’s like night and day. A guy who walks to the line and see’s the matchups and knows what his progressions are, knows where his protections need to be adjusted, knows what the defense is doing. Lots of guys have strong arms and athletic ability but if they don’t have it upstairs they aren’t ever going to get the job done.
Lou, you drowning in your sorrows again? The sky is falling? LOL
there’s plenty of issues with this team from poor coaching to poor leadership at the top to poor player picks and acquisitions. lots to be fixed and, unfortunately, it’s not going to happen in just one offseason again.
We’ll see. 🙂
It’s been 12 years of “we’ll see”. comes a time when you just have to admit things aren’t good.
I admit it. Things aren’t good. I don’t think the QB who didn’t play this year is part of the problem though. Makes almost no sense that in Gase’s 2 years, the year Tannehill played the bulk of the season we make the playoffs and the year he doesn’t we don’t and all you can do is bellyache how Tannehill is the problem.
Absurd.
Tannehill may not have been part of the problem this season but he sure in hell isn’t part of the solution either.
Well he didn’t play Lou, so he couldn’t be part of the solution. Duh!
There will be infinity years more of we’ll see too.
Well… I’m glad that it least seems that everyone is coming around to the idea that we need to draft a QB this year… and that it’s NOT about bashing Tannehill. We’re making progress! LOL
And now that we’ve factually established that Cutler has put the exact same amount of points on the board as Tannehill did for us last year in the exact same number of games… can we also come around to the fact that our running game SUCKS this season?
4.5 YPC and 14 TDs last season vs 3.8 YPC and 3 TDs this season. THAT is the Offensive drop-off from last season. That’s a 66 point differential alone, for a running that we relied on HEAVILY last season to augment Tannehill’s nearly 1.5 TDs/game (<– 9 points a game for Tannehill, exact same as Cutler this season).
Net result? 17.7 PPG this year, down from last year's 22.7 PPG. Now I can understand if we want to try to upgrade from Ryan Cutler and Jay Tannehill… so as to even draft a QB in the 1st Round. But dammit, our O-Line needs to be ADDRESSED… EARLY and OFTEN. Kenyan Drake is the future and the future is NOW.
Problem for me is that I don't want to draft a QB early and I have faith that Tannehill is going to be fine… just FIX THE RUNNING GAME WITH A REAL O-LINE! But if I'm GM and Tannehill goes down again without a suitable backup with a door to the future, I'm likely fired after the '18 season.
In this unique situation, DRAFT SPOTS MATTER. I hate to say that, but I just did.
Yeah, but what about opponent points off turnovers, which is heavily influenced by QB play?
Cutler was Cutler. I hoped for the best version of him, but we got the standard version of him.
That said I don’t disagree with the overarching point that the running game didn’t get it done for us this year.
Cutler’s had 2 more INTs than Tannehill and 3 fewer fumbles. They pretty much match up tit-for-tat there as well.
amazing how people seem to forget the turnovers Tannehill had that put the D in a bad position or that resulted in a score for the opposing defenses. selective amnesia I guess. common among Tannehill apologists
well, considering the fact that we had 13 rushing tds last season and only 3 this year, yeah, the running game definitely didn’t get it done. Not only that but we didn’t have the turnovers on defense and didn’t get the pressures and sacks we got last season.
it was a bad team effort on both sides of the ball. the defense is giving up more points per game this season but the offense is scoring less points per game and isn’t running the ball and controlling the clock as well as they did last year and that’s amazing considering we led the league in 3 and out’s last year.
IMO it’s going to be very difficult to do any kind of evaluations on most of the guys on this team this year and the only thing they’re really going to be able to do is decide it’s time to upgrade at certain positions like on the o-line and at LB. a lot has to be put in the coach’s laps too. pitiful coaching on their part.
surprises me tbh. I don’t have the wherewithal or time, but I wonder about turnovers in the redzone, or at the other end, which is why I like opponents points off turnovers, but I’m out of the game and don’t know how to look that stuff up.
Lou, if the team bothered me as much as it does you, I wouldn’t even bother. Seriously!
When you look at how many games the current roster has played together and under basically a new coaching staff, it’s not that hard to see why we are where we are. Last year was a nice respite from a playoff drought and it was fun. This year did not go according to plan. It doesn’t mean everyone sucks and there is no hope. 🙂
10-6 to 6-10 (maybe 7-9) via injury to starting QB in preseason;
More difficult schedule (by record);
Loss of bye-week-every other NFL team had a rest week sometime in the last 3 months,we did not, while we traveled more miles than all but 3 other NFL teams;
Other key injuries (which most teams have to deal with as well, so I thought about not writing this one).
It’s not the surprising really. Disappointing? Always. Alas, tomorrow is a new day.
Jahn, misconceptions about players evolve and good plays get ignored when fans decide it’s time to move on. I don’t think fans appreciate how many big plays RT has made. Go back and read the comments during his tenure and tally up how the entire team was ranked during that time. We sucked and have had many needs every year. But the QB is the issue. LOL
QB has most definitely been an issue and there’s no way anyone can say it hasn’t.
It wasn’t last year.
you could have put any number of qb’s in that offense when it started rolling and would have gotten the same result. it had little to do with him.
Yeah, I’m not saying he’s even a top 10 QB, but I firmly believe he’s top half and until we have a shot at a clear cut better option, I would focus on fixing the things that are in my control, like the OL, and LB play. Plenty of those guys where we’re drafting.
I generally agree. Let’s fix our running game by improving our O-Line. But if Tannehill goes down again…
Just remember the PA total includes DEF/ST TD scores against us. I think we had about 3-4, not sure off the cuff.
Our PA is irrelevant when it comes to our PF. I’m talking about Offensive output, not Defensive stinginess.
That’s not what I was saying. I’ve been reading PA stats being reported for purposes of demeaning stats against the defense. There are points that had nothing to do with them. Like being put on the 1 yard line 1st and 10 and getting blamed for a TD. LOL
Got ya! And yes, I agree with ya there.
It’s always an excuse with this team. Always. Traveled more miles than any other. Got their bye week taken away. Timmons went AWOL. Lost Tannehill to injury. Excuses are like assholes. Everybody’s got one. And in a couple more years when Gase is fired the cycle will start all over again.
I cannot STAND excuses, TRUTH! But truth be told, we were dealt one helluva hand this year as a whole. Too many circumstances outside of the team’s control went awry from the jump.
Yes… and as usual, there were some really bone-headed decisions made in the FO. But this year was just one of those years that even a crystal ball couldn’t save us from.
You excuse the wins, I excuse the losses. Difference is, I’m like a duck.
Funny how Cutler is being judged but I just wonder if Tannehill would be getting judged the same way if he had missed the entire offseason program and had to play from day one and had a season like Cutler did this year.
The apologists would just give him a pass because he didn’t have a proper camp to prepare. Enough is enough. He’s a failed experiment and it’s time to move on.
What’s the difference dude? Which one did our favorite team draft? Which one have we invested our fan interest into? Which one was a one year rental with no allegiance to the fins or it’s fanbase? DUH!
the difference is the one others have invested their fan interest into was a mistake to begin with but those fans will continue to excuse his shortcomings because they just KNOW if he’s given just ONE MORE YEAR he’ll show ya!!
SMH. LMFAO.
If anything is absurd, it’s that.
okey dokey
M13,
I get you on the QB question. I’m not sure what happens tbh, Traditionally FA would be the route, but it seems lately FA QB money falls into 2 tiers: Overpay for a guy who may or may not work out as a starter, or Overpay for a guy who may or may not work out as a backup.
It’s funny though, how we think about backup QBs (I do this same thing!), like they don’t need the skillset of a starting QB, but when the starter goes down, the backup becomes…….(cue jeapordy music)….
sorry, that last sentence was a thinking out loud moment.
I HEAR YA, without a doubt!
Dammit… why didn’t we pick up Case Keenum for a song when we had the chance! I know somebody who’d been lobbying for it for some time!!! *M13 looks in the mirror* 😀
Looks like you got that one right indeed. It’s always a crapshoot in FA though…..
Here we go with the labels. Holy hell already!!! Excuses = reasons. Oh my we’re not great, blow it up, dig up dinosaurs and draft a plethora of prospects who will make it all go away according to Odin. 😉
Root for your team and hope for the best. It should never be a staple of your life other than entertainment. I still like to watch my sports teams good or bad. Part of the lure is the hope that someday you win. 🙂
Whenever I see that, I just start reading everything they say as “excuses” as well. Do it enough and the word loses all meaning. LOL!
what I don’t get is how anyone could be optimistic about the prospect of a failed and mediocre quarterback coming back to play another year for this team or, better yet, be looking forward to him coming back.
that’s just insanity to me. insanity.
Not failed. That’s your excuse for getting rid of him.
Sure wasn’t a success.
Because your opinion is not definitive. The last time RT played the team did make the playoffs and it was not because of Matt Moore. LOL
Alex Smith was considered an early bust but in his 13th season he is having the best season of his career with a team that was 5-0, then 6-5, now 9-6 with a division title and a playoff birth.
That’s what I like about sports, perseverance.
It wasn’t because of Tannehill either.
Let Tannehill go persevere elsewhere
Y’all,
If there was ONE thing that was preventable… and it bloody IRKS me to NO end… it’s that our home field’s turf was a SHIT HOLE for the first half of the season. When ya employ a ‘wide-9′ Defense and rely on the speed and agility of MR. Wake and Charles Harris to bend the edge… it was a funkin’ TRAVESTY and disadvantage to our Defensive guys. SMMFH
Wake, for example, would probably have had anywhere from 4-8 more sacks this season if stadium management had it’s shit together. THAT’S REAL
Get the Miami Hurricanes the HELL OUT of our stadium. 😡
Let them stay if they just play @home when we are away!
If not fuckum!
Good talk boys. I’m out for the night. Gotta think up a few more excuses.
Quack quack (i’m a duck….it’s all just water off my back. 🙂 )
Have a good one, Jahndoh. Good to talk to ya again!
I hope like heck Tanny proves me wrong and begins to flourish. He seems like a good kid and teammate. I truly hope he succeeds. His success can only mean more success for the team, so who wouldn’t hope for that?
well, because it’s like hoping you’ll hit the Powerball jackpot, that’s why.
Who wouldn’t hope for that, you ask? People with agendas against Tannehill who’ve invested a LOT of time in hopes they are proven correct.
Culprit #1: Omar Kelly
Let me just say this for the record. I’m not hoping to be proven correct because as far as I’m concerned I’ve already been proven correct. People can come up with all the excuses they want as to why this guy hasn’t succeeded yet.
First it was his OC who was his college coach and even though those same people point to his college career as being successful under that same coach they say that same coach held him back at the pro level. What exactly would be his motivation for that? If he was his college coach and he was the guy who pounded the table to pick him to be the starting qb why would he hold him back? Don’t you think that maybe there’s a slight possibility (please read this with sarcastic tone) they thought Tannehill wasn’t getting it and they needed to bring him along slowly?
Okay. So then they fire his college coach/NFL OC and bring in Bill Lazor. Lazor emphasized the wr’s doing their job and put the onus on them to be where they needed to be so Tannehill could rely on them when he got the ball out. But, for some reason, things didn’t work out and yet another coach was blamed for his shortcomings.
But, yes. We’ll just continue to give him a pass because if we give him just one more season he’s going to prove all the naysayers wrong. I’d say it’s the other way around MF. I think it’s the other group who just want so bad to prove guys like Omar and myself wrong they’ll stick with this guy for another 10 years if they have to.
If Gase gets this offense to where it needs to be in terms of talent level on the line, at wr, te and rb then there’s any number of qb’s he could bring in and coach up and be successful with. He could bring in a guy like Woodside and win with him.
I don’t disagree with ya… to a degree, Prof Lou. But let’s not pretend that Tannehill absolutely sucks, either. That would be a foolish assessment. See my post down the page…
But, also let’s be realistic here. QB skills tend to diminish with age, not get better. So with him turning 30 and going into his 7th season he’s going to be an older quarterback at that time. We’re not talking Big Ben here or anyone else who was playing at a decently high level throughout his career and missed a year due to injury and is coming back.
He was a guy who still needed to improve and then had a setback with an injury missing an entire year of his career where he wasn’t able to use that year to play and get better. So, now you’ve got a guy who’s going to be 30 and is going to have to work that much harder to just get back to where he was before you even see him take any kind of step forward and possibly improve.
That would be hard enough for a Big Ben, a Rodgers or even a Rivers. If people are considering the “future” at quarterback for this team I think that’s a bit misguided. We’re looking at a situation where just about every other team in the league would be looking to get someone in the pipeline and be ready to move on from a guy like this; not be looking forward to getting him back and having him be the guy to lead the team for the future. This kind of thinking is why Miami is ALWAYS behind the eight ball when it comes to talent at certain positions. They always make moves too late and then are forced into making a decision that isn’t the best for the team; like when they were forced to take a qb in the first rd in 2012 and they jumped on him.
Randy,
Tannehill is never going to prove anyone wrong because if the offense is successful it’s never going to be just about him or all about him. The team is going to need to have an elite offensive line, a very good group of running backs, te’s and wr’s and a pretty good offensive scheme to be successful with him as quarterback.
To change the subject a bit, Landry! Negotiations are happening between both sides. Recent reports has Landry’s camp wanting to be paid what they deserve. What is that? Landry will use most catches in the history of the NFL in the first 4 seasons. The Dolphins only edge is the franchise tag to counter. He is only averaging 8.7 YPCA this year but that is how they’re using him and he has 103-895 and 8 TDs.
I think he’s a bit of an enigma. He’s not elite explosive but he has so many other good traits that we want to keep him. His best seasons are probably ahead of him. He’s only 25 years old.
What say you?
Don’t you know Tim?
Landry caught so many balls because Tanny can’t throw anything but shitty little bubble screens! 😉
I forgot the Cutler/Moore effect. LOL
Ya that Tanny argument sure gets the board going???????????????????
I find it fun at times and annoying at other times. 🙂
I guess we can finally get Drew Brees after failing twice?
Then his arm will fall off. LOL
we could cut Tanny, get Bree’s in FA, Draft the best QB on the board?
Honkey duryville!!! 🙂
Bobby Bueshe
I will never be able to understand the Tannehomers or the Tannehaters, yet the TRUTH is staring them all in the face. He’s as far away from the greatness of Dan Marino as he is as far away from the failure that was Chad Henne… Tannehill is a decent, middling NFL QB.
His arrow is no longer pointing up, nor is it pointing down… he’s a 30 year-old Jay Cutler. Don’t believe me? Cutler put up exactly 19 TDs and 12 INTs when he was 30 years old in Chi-Town. Isn’t that EXACTLY what Tannehill put up for us last year… in his so-called “breakout season”? Isn’t that pretty much what Cutler put up for us this year, as well?
The resemblances between the two are so uncanny that ya can’t make it up… and Gase LOVES them both. Know what I’m sayin’?
Tannehill certainly doesn’t suck, nor does Cutler, being they are twins. Or wait… did I get that right? Maybe Tannehill sucks being CUTLER sucks, according to the Tannehomers! 😆
Not sure why you think Tannehill/Cutler is a big debate. Tannehill is more future and Cutler was a 2017 stopgap. I think it ends there. Ryan will be 30 in July of 2018 and Jay will be 35 in April in 2018.
Cutler has said he’s not sure about 2018 but it won’t be as a backup. End of story.
Cat, I’m trying to say that the Tannehill/Cutler debate is MEANINGLESS. For one, Cutler won’t be back with us next season. For two, they are the same QB. For three, the lack of Tannehill isn’t the problemo with our Offensive deficiencies this season (nor is Cutler)… it’s the lack of a running game (O-Line).
But if Cutler SUCKS (according to certain people), then Tannehill SUCKS as well… as does Adam Gase what with his QB selections.
From my point of view, this is easy to see and foolish to even debate.
It would be different if we were looking at a guy who was in his 3rd season having a 2016 like he had last yr but a guy who’s going to be 30 coming off a knee injury and having a setback that caused him to miss an entire offseason and season it’s not like we’re talking someone who had 5 good seasons to this point.
So he’s got to work hard just to get back to the level of play he was at when he was playing at the so-called high level in ’16 and then still needs to continue to improve because improvement for a few games would be nothing if there is no consistency.
So, the team MUST be ready to move on if the experiment has to be ended.
They aren’t even close to being twins!
One is STONED all the time!
One is to busy screwing his supermodel wife to read the playbook!
I really should say one has reached his IQ peak and the game will never slowdown any further.
M13, Tannehill is more future than Cutler. End of story for me.
I will refer everyone back to my off-season article last year where I posted the stats from a bunch of so-called Elite quarterbacks over there first five years. It was a Kool-Aid article but did show that the so-called Elite quarterbacks we’re not Elite at the beginning of their careers. Tannehill was right on track with the so-called Elites before he got injured. The argument that he is 30 and has always been a failure and could never get better is only a haters perspective. Go back and check and you will see that the elite quarterbacks or not appreciably better than tenant Hill over their first five years.
Yeah it’s only a haters perspective and, therefore, not valid. I you don’t think Tannehill is a good qb your opinion on the subject doesn’t matter because you’re wrong and everyone else’s OPINION is correct.
Please excuse the misspellings and wrong words in my previous post Siri can’t fucking spell or use the correct words if they sound like another word!
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You have to admit, Case Keenum finding the level of success he achieved this year in Minnesota was about as unlikely as some people think Tannehill can find success here in MIA. If it’s not too late for Keenum, it’s not too late for Tannehill. If things come together well here, meaning he has a good enough O-line, we add another RB that can grind out short yardage situations, and finally, and I do mean finally draft a legit TE, one who can outrun most LB’s, has the size and catching ability to be a mismatch with most LB’s and Safeties, then maybe, just maybe Tannehill can duplicate the success he started building last season and possibly better it. Things have to come together, and it doesn’t necessarily have to be all of the above for it to work. I’m not a QB record guy, meaning I don’t think a QB’s record is HIS record, but Keenum is 19-18, after going 10-3 this season, so do the math. His QB rating never reached 90, yet I know in my heart, you think Keenum is lightyears better than Tannehill. Keenum just found the right situation, it all worked. It happens sometimes. I’m curious to see how his career progresses.
Also you still got to keep in mind the sample size. The right system and the luxury of having a lights out defense that might be falling apart in a year or two because of FA had a lot to do with it too. Not that i dont think he has earned the respect that he will now get, but you do have to be smart with statistical evaluation.
MIKE, your Keenum/Tannehill comparison is food for thought. HOWEVER, Keenum has a REALLY GOOD O-Line (with ELFLEIN at Center) and TANNY has, as it stands now, a poor O-Line with an over-the-hill Pouncey at Center. Also, I think Minnesota’s head coach is superior to Miami’s head coach. And I’ll bet none of the Viking assistant coaches spend time snorting the chalk line!!!
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Lightning defeat Montreal 3-1 last night before yet another sell-out crowd! Today’s forecast high in Tampa is 76. Life is good.
OHIO STATE Vs. SOUTHERN CAL in the Cotton Bowl tonight at 8:30. I’ll be watching!
OD – That’s not entirely fair, regarding Gase and Zimmer. Zimmer has been around a whole lot longer, and he had to wait significantly longer to get a Head Coach job in the NFL, after being a DC for about 14 years. He looks great right now, but he was 7-9 his first season, 11-5 the next, and then back to 8-8. This year, everything is going great. I think it’s like it that in sports, unless you’re part of a dynasty organization where they consistently do things right year after year, like the Patriots, Steelers, or Ravens. Most teams fluctuate quite a bit.
Gase is definitely learning a lot (hopefully!), and the guy is 22 years younger than Zimmer, and has less than a 1/3 of his experience, but that doesn’t mean he’s not good or qualified. Let’s give him a little time, shall we, and maybe he surprises us.
OD
I’m not a person that has been ignorant to our O-line woes. I really wanted us to sign OG Kevin Zeitler last season, and also pushed for a few in the draft, like OG Dion Dawkins, Ethan Pocic, Pat Elflein, Dan Feeney, etc. It didn’t happen. Maybe Asiata makes a push next year, but honestly, I wouldn’t be upset in the least if we spent 2 picks this draft on the O-line within the first 4 rounds. Get the line right, a lot of good things happen
I really hope the Dolphins sign Landry soon bc letting him go would be a monumental failure and as close to unforgivable as it gets for me
Word is they’re in discussions and have been for a few days. It will get done
http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2017/12/28/jarvis-landry-miami-dolphins-working-to-make-a-deal/
Let’s hope so
He’s the best player on our roster
Mike E. says:
December 28, 2017 at 5:14 pm
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I think the following teams need a QB, and there are a couple that may not invest early
Jets, Browns, Jags, Chargers, Broncos, Redskins, Giants, Saints and Cards
Mike E, you left a team off your list. According to some peoples standards on here Andrew Luck is a complete failure and his injury and surgeries were to his throwing shoulder. It will be 617 days between live NFL snaps for him. He’s obviously washed up and will never recover.
LOL – Plus, they also have Brissett who would probably get another shot.
I put Indy in my list.
I know it doesn’t make any oink
But I’m going to predict a big win for The Dolphins over Buffalo
31-10 Miami
But that may cost us draft position! (JBB, I always want the Dolphins to win)
Honestly if it were a real factor I would be okay with losing
But we are pretty much stuck at somewhere between the 9-13 spot no matter what happens
So we aren’t going top 5 and probably not too 10 and we arent getting out of the top 15
It’s irrelevant if we win and we usually win Jose games ☹️
Big Swan Song for Cutty?
More like tolerating him for 4 more quarters
The worst is almost behind us….lol
Piggy – I’ll take #9 over a win over Buffalo. I don’t the Bills have a great shot at making the playoffs with a win. The Ravens will probably beat the Bengals, and the Jags will be resting a bunch of guys against the Titans, although I wouldn’t be surprised if they still beat the Titans.
#9 could be a great spot for a big trade back from a team wanting to move up for a QB, like Washington (currently at #14), New Orleans (currently #28), or even a smaller trade up from the Cardinals (currently at #13)
I can’t root for the phins to lose. If it happens so be it, but I want us to beat the bills and knock them out of playoffs. I want to see Incognitos face when it happens 🙂
Boulder – I struggle with this every year it seems (LOL). It’s like this, when the actual draft is here, in April, and we’re picking #15 or whatever, and a player I really wanted goes at #9, where we could have picked, that absolutely meaningless win against BUF suddenly seems a 1000% less satisfactory. I know I’m going to feel that way, even if enjoy the game this weekend.
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Lou, Sir, with all due respect, it’s not about you.
What you feel or think or believe or even prove will not affect the Dolphins play, record, or personnel decisions even a half a percent.
Nor does your stance motivate any of us here to take an opposing position.
Your statement above that there is a group on this blog
“who just want so bad to prove guys like Omar and myself wrong they’ll stick with this guy for another 10 years if they have to.”
is immensely ego-centric and patently absurd.
While it is possible I suppose for one blogger to hope another blogger is wrong just so the first blogger is right, those spats are usually tightly specific and not so global as what you posit.
In your case, no one on here would want the Dolphins to endure losing records just to prove you wrong, no one here has developed their personnel opinions simply to contradict yours, and no one thinks Tannehill will be a viable QB option when he is 40.
Almost everyone on here that is a “Tannehill supporter” recognizes his limitations and sees the need to draft a replacement in the next couple years at most. I have heard no one here speak of him as an All Pro. He does have a much younger body type, however, than say a Palmer or even Rivers, much less of a weight problem than Big Ben for example, and so he might be able to play at his best for a longer time.
Just speaking for myself, I have been hesitant to commit draft capital to QB, given our needs at OL, TE, LB, and Edge Rusher, but the time has come to do that, because i no longer trust Moore as a back-up. I still think a back-up/developmental QB will play far less and thus have a far smaller impact than the 5 needs i mention above. That is why i don’t want to “waste” a high pick on a QB. After one more year, then maybe we can commit to a bona fide new franchise QB.
Not to see if Tannehill can “become elite,” but to see if we can get to the playoffs by filling the 5 needs i mention above.
I just don’t think any QB we select is gonna unseat tanny next year if he’s healthy. Unless a true talent falls to us then we might go QB in the first but other than that I can’t see us taking a QB in 1st couple of rounds. It’ll most likely be a developmental guy.
I think the FO wants to see tanny for a full year in Gase offense and if he can get us to the playoffs and actually win a game there. Reid gave Alex smith that chance and he basically decided that he can’t for far in the playoffs with smith so they drafted his replacement last year. We’re not there yet. This team has a lot other issues than just the QB. Until we can get the running game going no QB can be successful.
I think there’s a chance qb we select will unseat tannehill
A chance…
There’s also a chance it’s a wasted pick – it’s a bigger gamble that the average draft pick IMO
We have other needs – I agree
But all teams have needs, even the good ones and that will never end
I’m not overly impressed with the draft crop this year
And I think we have the advantage of not looking for a an in desperation
Mike E. says:
December 29, 2017 at 10:39 am
Piggy – I’ll take #9 over a win over Buffalo. I don’t the Bills have a great shot at making the playoffs with a win.
Ahhhhhh HELL NO! I will not accept being swept by the bills again. I cannot stomach them making the playoffs either! GO DOLPHINS. I don’t care if it dropped us down into the 20’s.
that’s what I think. Fuck the bills. Go Phins.
Well, we made the playoffs last year and then got destroyed, which really sucked. I think the same will happen to the Bills if they make it in somehow. I don’t worry about other teams, just ours. While the win would be temporarily satisfaction, the loss and moving up potentially 6-7 spots compared to the win, is better for our team in the long run IMO. I totally understand your thinking though, but I’m always looking ahead, it’s my nature.
That’s a big thing for me – I don’t want to be swept by the Bills
I hate being swept by any team in the division
That stuff quickly becomes blah blah blah has won the last 3 or the last 4 and you never hear the end of it.
It’s hard for me to function as a fan and accept any team in the division “has our number”. I just can’t do it
Nice post Naples – Well said!
While the win would be temporarily satisfaction, the loss and moving up potentially 6-7 spots compared to the win, is better for our team in the long run IMO. I totally understand your thinking though, but I’m always looking ahead, it’s my nature.
Yeah, but i have Bills fans in my life so being swept by them and / or them getting into the playoffs is not a one game thing. I have to hear about it for a year. Unacceptable! LOL
IMO draft position is not as important as drafting well. The best teams in the league draft at the bottom of the rounds year after year and they do not seem to be hurt by it.
It’s what you do with the draft picks that counts not the position they were picked in.
Unfortunately we still have Tannenbum running the show, so we’ll see.
What is the over / under on how many worthless trades Tannenbum pulls this year?
2 seems safe
Frustration is the opposite of serenity, and serenity comes from understanding the difference in what things you can change and cant change, and then putting your energies towards those things you can. Frustration therefore is not understanding those differences and wasting energy on things you cant change. Therefore the debate over Tannehill staying or not is inherently a point of frustration, because on either side you are advocating for things you cannot control.
I am just as guilty as others, at least in the past of trying to say what the decision should be, and i was extremely frustrated by not being able to prove my point so i shifted my stance to stating things as possible reasons for decision that might be made, and not should be made. It puts way too much pressure on the outcome of a decision i cant control and there is at least a 50% chance i am going to be very disappointed in the outcome if i really put too much worth in it. 50% chance it too much when its something as out of my control as that is, and for something that shouldn’t be impacting my life in any sort of significant way.
I feel so frustrated after reading this
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I don’t know why but the beginning of this post reminds me of Zoolander
50% chance it too much when its something as out of my control as that is, and for something that shouldn’t be impacting my life in any sort of significant way.
I don’t know man. I’m not in control of whether I get a 21 in black jack, but I would take the 50% chance all day every day. LOL
JBB
Tannebaum usually has a break the ice trade, which probably is for something good followed by a bunch of “i got the fever and the fever is for more trades” trades. If he can control himself after the first one we should be ok.
Mer-man!!!!
I just want the Dolphins to be good again. None of the other stuff that gets thrown around here matters. 🙂
My farts matter Tim
You elitist jerk!
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I didn’t mean to disrespect your foofs.
Adam Beasley
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@AdamHBeasley
Cool gesture by the Dolphins for @JamesWalkerNFL, who covered his final Dolphins practice today. We’ll miss you bud.
I hadn’t heard that James Walker wasn’t going to cover the Dolphins anymore. I can’t find anything else on it besides this tweet. I wonder what is up?
Good, he was not a good one. By far not the worst one we have, but he was up there.
He seems like a good guy though.
I’m sure he’s very nice
But I can’t remember ever getting any information from him on anything
Butt fumble by Texas A & M
Okay I still don’t really understand the two ACL injuries. Wasn’t the first one in the game against ARZ in December 2016 and then the 2nd in TC in August 2017? That seems to be 9 months.
Anyway some insight on the QB position.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article192145964.html
It’s Mando being his normal dickish self!
He really likes to turn on the theatrics
Unfortunately the standard is so low for out beat reporters that he’s the class of them
It’s the same injury obviously. I don’t know why he calls it 2. It’s not exactly so positive to say it the correct way given he tried that expireminetal bs the first time around that didn’t work
I tuned in to watch the Wake Forest DE and I see the TE putting on a clinic!
Cam Serigne, TE, Wake Forest
Height: 6-3. Weight: 250.
Projected 40 Time: 4.72.
Projected Round (2018): 5-7.
12/29/17: This season, Serigne has 35 receptions for 444 yards and eight touchdowns.
Read more: http://walterfootball.com/draft2018TE.php#ixzz52gIRTM7R
Yeah i have been following him for a little while. He has some upside for sure, i think he is just limited in the blocking department and we really need a TE with a balanced skillset. He also isnt prototypical size, he isn’t small per say, just not a really big RZ target. He is going to be more of a Jordan Reed type guy, although at this point id call him a less talented Jordan Reed
Clay isnt too bad of a comparison either.
Duke Ejiofor is the DE you are talking about and im iffy on him. On one hand i like his build and the overall balance to his game at DE, he would be a true 4-3 DE, edge setter, but i think there are limits to his speed rushing, so i see him more like a Hayes or Fede than i do a Harris, Wake or even Branch type of guy.
Just catching up. All this QB talk. I agree we need to draft one, no doubt. My GM hat on, I am rolling with Tanny next year and in the draft I am looking to draft someone with a lot of upside who would be a possible upgrade over Matt Moore as the backup. The kicker is I am going to go OL, TE, and D (BPA) not in that particular order in the first 3 rounds. So, in the 4th round I am going with Ferguson or Faulk.
That’s the way I would like to go
Focus on a couple of other things early
No need to act is desperation for a q.v.
But hey – if the FO thinks they found there guy and draft 1 early, I won’t complain
IMO I kind of like Marquis Gray in the FB/HB/TE role enough that if i was drafting a TE im looking for something different, i feel like we have two TE position locked in at a level id be comfortable with IF Fasano is wanting to come back again next year and not retire. Thomas to me isnt where he need to be to stay on the team, he is a fraction of the person he was when he was playing in Denver and part of it isnt physical, he doesn’t seem to have any intensity while he is on the field. Id be looking to add a replacement receiving TE but, id be looking to replace them with an option that had better blocking ability, and this year there are several that fit that role.
As for DE’s, im looking to get a Wake type guy, a pass rushing primary skill 4-3 DE. Id rather keep Hayes and Branch, and add a guy like Dorance Armstrong Jr, or Marcell Frazier as 2-3rd round possibilities. If i waited a little later, in the draft and the guy shows up at Senior Bowl week, then Marcus Davenport could be a 4-6th round guy, along with Ade Aruna out of Tulane, Mike Love out of USF, CeCe Jefferson from UF. I think Wake is starting to decline, even though amazingly still very potent at his age. We dont need to invest extremely early, or we should feel forced to reach for a DE prospect, but it would be smart to pick on up.
Now is a good time to remind everyone
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Wyo
Can’t we please get a TE that’s like 6’5″ – 6’7″? I want that big, prototypical size, that can hopefully block, run and catch. We’re due for one man, it’s been for-EVAH!
I haven’t even seen the Wake TE before!
But he was tearing up A&M
BBM – Right with ya man! That’s how I’d like it to go, but that’s not good, they never do what I think they should do
D, I also like the role Gray plays for us.
Mike, I agree we need that big TE who can be the guy.
Lou,
I have always felt Tannehill is a limited, average QB, but he does have some nice tools. It’s certainly not an impossibility that he gets even better. He has just always seemed like an athlete trying to play QB, to me. He just doesn’t seem to have that “feel” a guy who grew up playing QB his whole life has. That’s nebulous, but it’s as good as I can describe it. Lol
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I just think Tanny is what he is after 6 years. Sure, maybe he gets a little better, but it’s just as likely he is at or very close to his ceiling. We all get to decide what that level is.
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To me, evaluating a player has absolutely nothing to do with a person’s fan hood. I can think a player sucks or is average, and it doesn’t change my desire for them or the team to succeed. So, I can think Tanny is average and still hope like hell he proves me wrong! None of us around here guess right all the time. Being wrong is pretty much a given at some point in personnel evaluation. Again. I thought John Beck could be a top 10 QB. Shit happens! Lol
Mike E if we draft one in the first 3 rounds we will get your tall pass catcher TE
It’s weird having seen Gray play QB for the Gophers and now see him bulked up playing FB. The dude is actually a really good athlete. It would be awesome to see him blossom into somethbig like a Keith Byars.
I really like Gray, too.
He will be entering his 6th nfl season in 2018
I think his blossoming days are behind him
Randy that’s a great way to put it about Tanny!
I don’t know if he will ever get a better “feel” for the game?
But that is the one thing that could come with experience!
I just don’t see his “pre-snap” reads getting any better? Maybe a year on the sidelines helped him?
That is why there is still hope for some of us!!!!
Most of the negative about Tannehill at this point seems linked to experience but I would have expected it to get to the next level a few years ago
Did he get better by not playing? I think he probably got wiser by watching, given he didn’t even know the teams in each division back in the hard knocks days
It doesn’t seem likely to me but who knows
I’m not expecting anything different from Tanny!
I’m just saying his shortcomings can be fixed with experience.
Will it ever happen?????????????
By the way I don’t want any old run of the meal FB!
It’s Flowers or nothing!!!!!!!!!!
I would love to draft Flowers, but I don’t think Miami will. I hope I’m wrong though.
Wyoming,
A Tom Rathman sort?
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Gray is a good athlete with versatility. Teams keep trying to figure out how to use him. I was just saying it would be awesome if we were the ones to finally hit on a guy like that who becomes a really good player. It seems like we NEVER get those! Lol
Flowers is a very good pass catcher out of the backfield!
He can also run and block!
I think it’s time to stop trying to develop one and just get someone who can do it already!
Besides maybe we can run the ball for 1 yard when we need to!!!!!!!!!
Piggy,
I know…I was just saying. See what happens? I get positive about a player, and you rip me to shreds for it! Lol
Miserable is the way to go around these parts
wyoming
Is Pouncey still playing C? If so…then we won’t be getting that yard!
Hopefully Ragnew takes his place when he goes on IR next year?
Glad he was too slow for us to draft?????????
It was injury concerns that derailed that, and how much they liked Harris.
Think the Jills would trade us their first round picks for a QB?
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 24 (BUF): Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame (A)
Round 1 Pick 25 (BUF): Billy Price, C/OG, Ohio State (A-)
Round 2 Pick 12: Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia (A-)
Round 3 Pick 12: Luke Falk, QB, Washington State (A-)
Round 4 Pick 12: Uchenna Nwosu, OLB, Southern California (A-)
Round 4 Pick 31: Troy Fumagalli, TE, Wisconsin (A)
Round 6 Pick 12: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 7 Pick 5: Andrew Wingard, FS, Wyoming (A)
Round 7 Pick 12: Andrew Brown, DE, Virginia (B+)
These aren’t the trading partners you are looking for
There goes Thorson on the cart!
Whats everyone’s thoughts on Jarrett Stidham**, QB, Auburn Height: 6-3. Weight: 210.?
He beat both Georgia and Alabama this year!
He’s my favorite prospect not going in the top 15.
Pros…Strong arm, throws a nice deep ball, accurate, and doesn’t turn the ball over a lot.
Cons… may not come out, not a lot of experience, will need time to develop, height (not sure about 6-3???)
M13, Sorry man, Rashaad Penny is rated as a top 10 RB and expected to go as +/- round 3 on some sites. If he is there in round 4 I would take him after I got my QB though.
Wy, Jarrett Stidham is more of an option QB, IMO. I have seen a few of his games and he is not a very accurate QB from what I saw.
I like that last draft BTW
As good as Auburn is I haven’t seen them play this year
The fastest TE on the board (who no one is talking about) is Ian Thomas from IU. 6’4″ 248. Projected to run about a 4.6 40. Have not watched anything on him and don’t if he is a blocker or not.
The Miami Dolphins have confirmed to Armando that Ryan Tannehill has indeed suffered two separate ACL injuries
Ian Thomas was a JuCo transfer. He might be more of a Julius Thomas than a guy with the whole package like Andrews, Hurst, Fumagalli, or Gesicki.
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I was just remembering the board discussions about drafting a 2 down run stuffier.
LB or DE. If you are looking for a DE in the mold of Haynes then Chad Thomas out of the “U” might be a decent prospect.
wyoming85 says:
December 29, 2017 at 5:38 pm
Whats everyone’s thoughts on Jarrett Stidham**, QB, Auburn Height: 6-3. Weight: 210.?
He beat both Georgia and Alabama this year!
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SEC is my league, and my opinion on him is he should and probably will not declare for the draft this year. I will say there are two Jarrett Stidhams, there was the one at the beginning of the year nd there was the one that hit his stride for several games, leading up to but not including the championship game. To me he really matured over the season as a passer and towards the end was making some great reads and throws, many times running through progressions, and showing he has developing NFL caliber skills.
I didnt like him early, and was pretty much giving my Auburn friends shit because of how they hyped him up so much before the season, because he was awful then, but as the year went on, some of his throws, and decisions were among the best i saw of any of the other QB’s. He needs more cooking but he would be a worthy take, but as i said i really dont expect him to declare this year.
Thanks
BailBondMike says:
December 29, 2017 at 5:44 pm
M13, Sorry man, Rashaad Penny is rated as a top 10 RB and expected to go as +/- round 3 on some sites. If he is there in round 4 I would take him after I got my QB though.
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Just as I predicted a week ago to Tim: no surprise to me. Rashaad can do it ALL, plus he runs like he’s 175 pounds… but he’s 220 pounds. Once he kills the Combine, he’s going to go in the 2nd Round… BET. And that means he won’t be a Dolphin. SVUCKS! 😦
Im really hoping for Bo Scarborough. I havent seen a more undervalued RB in a while. If he stays under the radar (which like Penny he probably wont) this would be a great mid round take because the dude is a bruiser back, just raw power and tons of it.
professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
December 29, 2017 at 6:06 pm
The Miami Dolphins have confirmed to Armando that Ryan Tannehill has indeed suffered two separate ACL injuries
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I’m glad Armando confirmed this, but it’s not news. Well… I suppose it is if one is a Tannehomer who is in denial about this fact and doesn’t understand how injuries work.
He had a partial tear (level 2 sprain) of the ACL with an associated full rupture of the MCL from his injury in 2016. He did not have ACL surgery for that but they did surgery for the MCL. The ACL rupture (full tear) happened in preseason this year, which did require surgery to repair. So technically he has had one surgery on the ACL and one on the MCL, even though he had two official tears of the ACL, one just not a full tear.
They call partial tears, sprains, and they call full tears ruptures, so i think that part of the confusion
Yes, I think that’s a part of the confusion as well… but even little ol’ me knows this. And no, I’m not a doctor or even affiliated with one. Well, I used to be a microphone doctor 😉
D says:
December 29, 2017 at 7:05 pm
Im really hoping for Bo Scarborough. I havent seen a more undervalued RB in a while. If he stays under the radar (which like Penny he probably wont) this would be a great mid round take because the dude is a bruiser back, just raw power and tons of it.
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He’s another guy who I know his name well, but I’ve never laid eyes on him. I’ll check him out, D. Sounds like a guy right up our alley by your description of him.
Oh, wow. Just by looking at his metrics/size ya can tell he’s a bruiser. Gase loves backs who can additionally receive, though. Bo looks like he started to come on a little this season in that department. I’ve gotta check his tape…
D,
Alright, I just dialed up Bo Scarborough’s ’17 highlights before getting to his tape. Well, I don’t need to go to his tape AT ALL. Dude… that guy is a future STUD. He’s going to go no later than day 2 of the Draft, IMO. If he SOMEHOW falls to the mid-rounds, PULL THE TRIGGER!!!
Were you guys talking TE’s? Dallas Goedert isn’t the 6’6″ guy (“Only” 6’4″) but he’s my man crush this year.
Goedert is an absolute BEAST! Know the only problem with him? His star is QUICKLY rising: I’ve seen a credible mock or two where he goes in the 1st Round. He’s one of the hottest commodities at the moment and he may be gone by the time we’re on the clock.
professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
December 29, 2017 at 6:06 pm
The Miami Dolphins have confirmed to Armando that Ryan Tannehill has indeed suffered two separate ACL injuries
Corrected with ONE surgery, apparent successfully so we’ll have to see.
If this team pays Landry what GB paid Adams they are insane.
If there’s a qb in the upcoming draft who is a Tannehill clone it’s Finley.
I did some injury homework on Bo Scarborough: torn ACL in ’11 and lower right leg fracture last January (did not require surgery).
He’s proven the ACL is far behind him (over half a decade ago) and he looked just fine this season post-fracture… so I don’t understand why he’s projected to go in the mid-rounds at the moment, and especially if he’s being considered a medical red flag… he shouldn’t be.
All I can come up with is that he has such little wear on his tires (only 251 college carries), which is a PLUS in my book.
I also see a broken ankle and high-ankle sprain in high school. Yes, it IS about injury concern, after all. I’d take him in the mid-rounds in a HEARTBEAT, though! It’s not like Bo would be our alpha RB with Drake in town. He’d be a GREAT short-yardage back for us.
He also brings punishment with his runs and wears a DL down. Keep Drake pretty fresh, let Bo just keep slamming into them and eventually Drake is breaking off chunk yardage runs. Bo is also a pretty good pass protection back.
We need to upgrade our OL. They are our biggest weakness. We need to stay healthy and play much better. I really hope we see a couple draft picks there.
If you want the next Alvin Kamara … and who wouldn’t … i think that is Sony Michel. i think he is gonna be a game-changer. i would love to draft that guy.
But it was the same ACL (left)? We know he injured it twice. I’m not sure what other way anyone thought it would be. He suffered two injuries 9 months apart. I’m not sure what the contrary would be? All I ever said was he didn’t completely shred his knee like some other guys have. Some guys tear everything.
First one was minor compared to a lot of ACL injuries the second one was a pretty standard one. Neither were particularly gruesome. The big deal is just how well does a person bounce back from it and how weakened is it now. I know you point to success stories as reasons not to worry but so e people bounce back some are never the same so to me that’s where my concern comes in, and I think none of us will be able to say which way it goes until he is back out there playing on it. If I were him, I’d use the brace this time though
I believe he was wearing the brace when he re-injured it. I guess not having the surgery could have setup the 2nd tear.
Yeah I was really wondering why they just didn’t bite the bullet and do the surgery then. It would had him back by a few games into this season, with a lot less risk of reinjury
Part of his current projection is he lost his status as the primary back in Alabama’s system because Damien Harris came on so fast. Harris is a Dalvin Cook type back and has really done well so it’s limited Bo’s carries.
I like Nick Chubb better than Michel, he has a better overall skill set, and fits our system better. I don’t think we need that either though, we could really use a bruiser, just a Sledgehammer guy who they can stack the box or whatever and he is going to get a 3rd and 1 or 2 or punch it in from the goal line
We can use Gray too, so it’s not a strong need but it would strengthen our running game to be able to wear out a DL without wearing out Drake
Classy tweet from Michael Thomas. The long one to the Dolphins and fans.
https://twitter.com/michael31thomas?lang=en
Hi everyone, hope all are having a great holiday season.
Mike E
Good write up, not to sure I’m that concerned about Gase he had a rough season for sure but didnt we all lol
I do believe he is more of a football guy than the last couple of coaches we’ve had through here, I’m leanings toward throwing this whole season out the window and chalking it up to a very strange year
Gase hopefully will do a lot of review and come back next year better for it.
If nothing else I’m looking into a new medical procedure they have come up with here in Miami and they actually have a special discount for Dolphin fans
It’s called a rectal-opthamy where apparently they can sever the nerve between the eyes and asshole so you stop having a shitty outlook on things !
Happy New year to you DCoral! LOL @ the surgery – Some people thing that surgery would be a Ross-ectomy, some believe it’s a Mr.T-Bomb-ectomy, and honestly, who knows what’s right?
We all just want this team to win, and it’s been along time since we had any kind of continuity doing that. Good to see you here! Hope all is well! 🙂