The Wedge Scouting Report: Nick Chubb, Georgia

Ahhh…there is nothing I like more than rolling over the remaining lifeforms after planetary conquest.  The feeling of dominance as you roll over their squishy bodies – smells like….victory!

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I imagine its what it feels like to be a dominating running back.   I saw some old videos of Herschel Walker and he must have felt the squishing bodies of the defenders underneath him.

Georgia has had some good running backs:  Walker, Todd Gurley and now Nick Chubb.

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The Positives:  Nick Chubb has been very productive at Georgia.  As a freshman no one expected much from him.  But when Todd Gurley went down with an unfortunate injury  Chubb picked up the slack – rushing for over 1,500 yards and 14 touchdowns.  For his career Chubb ran for 4,599 yards and 42 Touchdowns.

Chubb is listed at 5-10, 225 pounds.  He is a downhill powerful runner who fights for every inch.  He’s a fun runner to watch – breaking tackles and using his body to overpower defenders.

Chubb is a decisive runner – he hits the hole fast and has also proven to be elusive in the open field.  He had plenty of long rushing touchdowns in his career at Georgia.

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The Negatives:  Chubb suffered an ACL injury in his sophomore season.  He missed seven games that year.  But Chubb bounced back strongly in his junior season and had a third 1000 yard season in his senior season (2017).

That said, Chubb’s freshman year stands out as his most productive.  The medical evaluation at the combine might hurt his draft stock in the same way it hurt Jay Ajayi.

He’s not a great asset in the passing game only catching 3 passes in 2017 and 5 in 2017.

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The Alien Dust:  One of my favorite running backs to watch run…Boom Boom and then he breaks a big run.  If you enjoyed watching Ajayi run, you will probably like watching Chubb.

I think he can be a productive runner in any NFL tandem and a great short yardage back.  I would love to see Chubb paired with Drake for a powerful rushing attack in Miami.  Not sure if Miami feel like they can work with him in the passing game though.

He won’t be drafted too high.  He’s probably a day 3 pick.  At best he is a 3rd rounder.

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This terrific prospect reminds me of the lunar flattener I love using to crush the remaining lifeforms on a planet.  So that’s his weapon of destruction – an obvious fit.  Lookout defenders!

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You can see his highlights here

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806 Responses to The Wedge Scouting Report: Nick Chubb, Georgia

  1. D's avatar D says:

    Going off that PFF the team that selected the best in the 1st round was the 9’ers with a +29 differential between the pick selection and the PFF rank of the players from the first. The Saints though probably had the best round as they had two picks , both with positive differentials. a +10 for Lattimore and a +27 for Ramczyk. We were at least in the positive side of things with a +7, leaving us in 11th place which ironically enough is our draft spot next year lol. SF’s first pick was tied for the second worst point differential, at -19, so their draft still looks OK, but it certainly wasn’t as magical as everyone thought it was at first. The Chargers had the worst point differential with -21 and worst overall first round. The Browns were barely in the positive differentials, despite 3 chances to land a person who turned out to be better than the place they drafted them at.

  2. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    ESPN’s Dan Murphy’s TOP 6 GAMES on opening weekend of the next College Football season:
    1. Alabama vs. Louisville (in Orlando).
    2. Michigan @ Notre Dame.
    3. Auburn vs. Washington (in Atlanta).
    4. LSU vs. Miami (AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, AKA “Jerry World”).
    5. Florida Atlantic @ Oklahoma.
    6. Virginia Tech @ Florida State (Monday Night).
    ———————————-
    KINDA STUNNED that my old school’s football team has risen to such heights. TWO seasons ago an FAU football game would NOT be ranked in the top 6 games of the weekend even if there were only 5 games that weekend!!!
    ———————————
    But it DOES go to show you what a difference ONE REALLY GOOD COACH can make on a given football program IN JUST ONE SEASON!!! For what it’s worth, if Gase has another 6-10 season, Lane Kiffen would not have to move out of his current house to work at Dolphin headquarters in Davie. Nor would Butch Davis, former head coach of the Browns and “the U.,” who is now head coach at FIU in north Miami.

  3. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Some tidbits.
    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article193816064.html

    As for the commentary on Loggains, they were playing a rookie QB most of the year in Trubisky after Glennon struggled. In 2016 they went through 3 QBs – Cutler, Hoyer and Barkley. I think that might have something to do with it. Their RB Howard is also their best player on offense. Ding!

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      “While Loggains called the plays in Chicago, Gase is expected to continue to call plays for the Dolphins.”

      First I’ve heard this, and I’m honestly not sure what to think.

      • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

        That Gase is still calling plays?

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Yup, that Gase is still calling plays. I’d rather a HC focus on being a HC than having to do ‘double-duty’ as either an OC or DC, but that’s just me.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        That was reported from the beginning. Gase loves that aspect of the game. Play calling wasn’t our issue this year but supposedly he wanted Loggains because they communicate well together and he was the QB coach when Gase was OC in CHI. Not sure what the deal with Christensen is?

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        I’m curious to see Christensen’s role as well.

  4. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Christensen is simply anecdotal relief.

  5. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Did I read that PFF chart right?
    Did they give Mahomes a higher grade than Watson?

  6. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    M13, plenty of HC’s call the plays and have success. I think Loggains might be someone he wants in his ear and a 2nd opinion from, and maybe wasn’t feeling it with Christensen. Maybe Christensen goes to the eye in the sky and Loggains is on the field also being a former QBs coach. As fans we’re probably getting to deep into it. LOL

  7. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Discipline! That’s what this team needs.

  8. love this kid. want him on my team:

  9. Packers hiring Pettine and Chargers hiring Bradley but, oh well.

    • well, Bradley was already with the Chargers but, ya know. Fangio likely to stay with the Bears as well.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      If our offense gets on track I think our defense will be fine. It really starts with the starting 5 on the OL and how we address TE and Landry.

      • Not a lot of TE options in free agency and from what I’ve seen in the past this team really doesn’t like to go into the season without addressing TE thru free agency but it’s going to be tough for them to do so this year. They may end up trying to trade for someone or maybe they do the unthinkable and say “Juius did a good job for us last season” and keep him.

        Plenty of TE talent in the draft but just about every one of them will take at least a couple of years to develop and most may take a little longer before they become something in the offense.

        I don’t know a lot of the names in free agency on the o-line but I wouldn’t put it past them to go with another short term answer at one of the guard positions again rather than signing a guy who could be the answer for at least 4 years but we’ll see.

  10. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      For shits and giggles… life without Landry. He’s going to be expensive, does his production warrant top WR money? I’m not sure. It’s a rock and a hard place. He brings a lot of fire to the game and talent, but at what price? The same with James, is he worth $9.3M at RT, I’m not so sure?

      What if this is what we rolled with in 2018? Some new depth but let’s say this is the core.
      LT Tunsil
      LG Nelson*
      C Pouncey
      RG Larsen
      RT Davis
      TE Rookie*

      QB Tannehill
      RB Drake
      FB/H-B Gray

      WR Stills
      WR Parker
      WR Grant (3rd)

  11. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I’ve been curious about the idea of playing 3 safeties lately
    I don;t think we need to add a safety and a coverage LB
    so this draft kind of works with that idea

    Derwin James is a terrific player and I managed to add a good interior OL in the 2nd round
    For whatever reason I had the TE of my choice int he 3rd – practically everyone mentioned on this board so I took th highly rated Andrews

    and I would love Falk and Freeman in the 4th round

    11: R1P11
    S DERWIN JAMES
    FLORIDA STATE
    42: R2P10
    C BILLY PRICE
    OHIO STATE
    73: R3P9
    TE MARK ANDREWS
    OKLAHOMA
    113: R4P11
    QB LUKE FALK
    WASHINGTON STATE
    131: R4P29
    RB ROYCE FREEMAN
    OREGON
    187: R6P9
    EDGE CHIKWE OBASIH
    WISCONSIN
    224: R7P5
    G WYATT TELLER
    VIRGINIA TECH
    230: R7P11
    OT COLE MADISON
    WASHINGTON STATE

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Jones and McDonald who can both play the run act as SS/NLB with a deep cover safety. In the perfect scenario Alonso and McMillan are the main LBs most of the time.

      Godchaux, Taylor and Harris should be expected to improve their games. All three were rookies. The same for C. Allen and Tankersley. There is upside on this defense. Score some points offense!!! LOL

      • D's avatar D says:

        Tim i think there are always ways to use talented players. If we got a chance at a guy who helps out team, Burke might be able to get even more creative with his defense. Maybe part of what has hurt us in him doing what he needs to is player limitations. I know for sure we dont have the personnel to play the wide 9 effectively as a base formation. We can throw it in from time to time, but we are pretty limited on what we can do with it and how many different looks we can give out of it. So even if a DE thats more Harris or even one that really looks more like a 3-4 OLB can be used to help strengthen our defense, if we can get to the point where we can run the double Leo wide 9 formation and yet create both heavy pass rush and heavy coverage play calls out of that same formation, we will start stacking up sacks left and right.

        We have the pass rushers, but eventually when a good QB sees us switch to the wide 9, knowing we dont have the players to cover out of that formation, they know already they need to progress through the reads faster and make sure they get the ball out to checkdown or exploit the blitzing Leo audibling to a wheel rout play, or whatever they determined would be their audible for spotting that formation.

        Basically what im saying is, just because we are talent heavy in certain areas doesn’t mean adding talent there is a waste or less valuable than picking another position. Also to add to what Piggy is saying, grabbing a player that gives us the option for 3 safeties, and then finding a spot to get better use out of all three while at the same time mixing up the defensive looks would be very beneficial. S has really moved up my board as a possible position of need recently and its because of what i heard Burke say about McDonald and just in general what i think is possible with a guy like McDonald in there.

  12. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    D

    I saw one of your earlier posts
    and I’m also a fan of Falk

    Seems like the most overlooked QB prospect in the draft

    Did you know he played most of 2017 with a broken wrist?

    • D's avatar D says:

      Yeah i knew he had some lingering injury but i didnt know it was his wrist. They guy is crazy accurate, i hear the big knock on him is he is sometimes a little over confident in himself making a perfect throw into tight coverage or when he has only small windows in double coverage. This can be a good and bad thing, but at the college level i actually think its a good thing because its pushing yourself to throw into tight coverage in college when normally you have a pretty good cushion on most plays. NFL is all tight window throws so pushing yourself to be pinpoint accurate only helps you when you wind up having to be. You can see his TD to int numbers, to go along with a 67% comp rate, are pretty good so it says to me, even if it might not have been the easiest decision, he still was able to get it done. The wrist injury probably explains being a little more off this year than he has been the 2 previous where he had 70% comp and only 8int/38TD, then 11int/38TD for the year.

      • D's avatar D says:

        I should say there is at least one person open with a pretty big cushion. He pushed to make the better throw, and again, maybe not safe, but in college i would have pushed myself to do that too.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Some people say he has an int problem – but that ratio. Is not bad at all

        I actually think there is a chance he is a 3rd rounder or later

        He’s looking like the forgotten man

  13. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Wonder who “they” are?
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    Jarvis Juice Landry@God_Son80
    12h12 hours ago
    They scream out my failures and whisper my accomplishments…

  14. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Chris Renkel CBS 42
    @Chris_Renkel
    Source: Alabama RB Bo Scarbrough will forgo Sr. season and turn pro. Has signed with an agent and marketing company. #RollTide

  15. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    #Packers hired Joe Philbin as their Offensive Coordinator

  16. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Getting the sense that Landry and Miami are far apart on contract negotiations. feeling a divorce coming.

  17. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Piggy – Did you see my email?

  18. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    11: R1P11
    S DERWIN JAMES
    FLORIDA STATE
    42: R2P10
    EDGE CLELIN FERRELL
    CLEMSON
    73: R3P9
    G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP
    113: R4P11
    TE TROY FUMAGALLI
    WISCONSIN
    131: R4P29
    RB BO SCARBROUGH
    ALABAMA
    187: R6P9
    QB LUKE FALK
    WASHINGTON STATE
    224: R7P5
    G BRADEN SMITH
    AUBURN
    230: R7P11
    FB DIMITRI FLOWERS
    OKLAHOMA

  19. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    So…..it is being reported TJ McDonald has his probation revoked. Seems he’s not done his community service or alcohol classes. Idiot……

  20. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Armando Salguero
    @ArmandoSalguero
    I have talked with person with knowledge of T.J. McDonald probation situation and am told Dolphins safety asked and received from court extension to fulfill terms of probation. So he should be fine as long as he fulfills obligations this offseason.

    • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

      Lol

      So he waited til they revoked it to do something? Sounds like my kids!

      • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

        He was suspended half the season. Why the hell couldn’t he have done his classes and service? You’re right Mike E…..not even any discipline off the field. Regardless whether or not he’s in legal trouble, where is the drive to get all your legal bull shit out of the way and get all of it behind you?

        Dolphins have had way more than 200 hrs of community service he could have tagged along on. SMH

  21. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Seriously no wonder McDonald hits so hard

    If my brain was that useless I would be slamming it everywhere too

  22. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    I guess safety just got elevated in the list of draft needs

  23. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    D, what did Burke say about McDonald?

  24. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Piggy(short yardage)
    Yes I think Bo could perform in lieu of the traditional LB as well as smashmouth RB plays .

    Also, just asking … why do you have us picking various spots instead of 11 every round?

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I didn’t trade or anything

      I’m guessing, with the exception of the trades in the 4th and 7th that are already in place, that’s the rotation of the tiebreakers

      So depending on which round we are 9-11

      Expect those picks to move back when the announces comp picks

  25. Wow. The Browns are building one hell of a front office. Hired Alonzo Highsmith as their VP of Player Personnel. He and Dorsey could make that a scary team with their cap and picks. Not only will they be able to sign free agents who could help and draft some young talent but may be able to trade for a key piece as well.

  26. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Ian Rapoport

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    The #Texans are expected to hire #Bills VP of player personnel Brian Gaine as their new GM, sources say. The favorite all along.

  27. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Piggy
    We are not in a tie. The draft goes by strength of schedule, and ours was more difficult than the others with 6-10 records, so our record is “better,” so we are always 11 and they swap 9 and 10.

    • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

      sorry to say so, but someone on here pointed this out to me the other day.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      My understanding is that if 2 teams finish 6-10
      Strength of schedule affects their position in the first round
      Then they flip

      But I seem to remember being disappointed by this idea before in past drafts when so you might be right

      Anyway I don’t set the order – the simulator does

  28. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    January 10, 2018 at 6:53 pm
    My understanding is that if 2 teams finish 6-10
    Strength of schedule affects their position in the first round
    Then they flip…
    ———
    This is what I understand as well, Pig.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I remember though

      Either last year or the year before being upset for some reason in the 2nd or 3rd round about the place we picked

      It might have been we are stuck at 11 like Naples is saying
      Or it might have been that we were tied with 2 others and we went from the 3rd to pick to the 2nd to pick in the 2nd round and then was he first of the three in the first round (I.e. the ugly end of the rotation)

      I don’t remember but something didn’t work out like I thought it would with the tiebreakers and I was like “wtf!”

  29. My first 2018 Phins mock:

    Rd 1: Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, OLB, Oklahoma
    Rd 2. Will Hernandez, OG, UTEP
    Rd 3. Ian Thomas, TE, Indiana
    Rd 4. Kurt Benkert, QB, Virginia
    Rd 4. Jordan Aikens, TE, UCF

    That’s it so far.

  30. D's avatar D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    January 10, 2018 at 4:58 pm

    D, what did Burke say about McDonald?
    ————————————–
    Just that he has given thought to using him as a NLB, or in some sort of LB role.

  31. D's avatar D says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    January 10, 2018 at 7:45 pm

    Because I think a guy like Webb could be around in the 5th and I like him there.
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    I mentioned him the other day, i think he is a very under the radar prospect, both he and Scarborough right now are seriously undervalued. Scarborough because of some comments, etc might keep people wondering if he is a little risky character wise, and i think that Webb just in general didnt have the benefit of a talented team around him, but he has been productive every year regardless. He probably is more of a mirror to Drake, not as fast but pretty elusive none-the-less. He is also a solid blocker and receiver, though the latter i haven’t see a ton of footage on, since , again, the offense really didnt perform well enough nor did they utilize him that way a ton.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Also i like Ian Thomas a good bit too as a TE who can block and is a sneaky receiving threat. He isnt going to blow the doors off and leave a guy in the dust but i think he would be good in the RZ.

  32. D's avatar D says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 11: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 10: Will Clapp, C/OG, LSU (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 9: Luke Faulk, QB, Washington State (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 11: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 31: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A-)
    Round 6 Pick 9: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (A)
    Round 7 Pick 5: Steve Ishmael, WR, Syracuse (A-)
    Round 7 Pick 11: J.T. Barrett, QB, Ohio State (A)

    Part of me wants a little bit better first OL selection but this covers all of our needs with quality players. Id probably use Barrett as a Clay style hybrid RB/TE if he made the transition. Depending on how our WR situation works out i would also use him out of the slot as well.

  33. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    The point of contention about draft order is whether two must tie “exactly” to be involved in cycling in later rounds or whether the cycling occurs between all teams who simply have the same won-lost record, with the tie-breakers only applying in the first round.

    For example this year two pairs of teams had to go to a coin flip because they were tied even through all the tie-breakers. Whereas we were not involved in that.

    I am hoping Piggy and MF are correct, since that would allow us to pick 9th in the second round and 10th in the third. In fact I think everyone is correct except me, which in this case is a good thing.

  34. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I think Okoronkwo is way too light to play DE, even a 4-3 DE.

  35. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Rigel Spikes

    @MF13SS
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    @nfldraftscout Have you heard ANYTHING about NIU LB Jawuan Johnson possibly declaring this year? I can’t find a thing, one way or the other.

    Matt Miller

    Verified account

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    Nothing. I can ask around

  36. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Spotrac

    Verified account

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    Based on a projected $178M league salary cap, a WR franchise tag in 2018 will cost around $16M.(#Rams Watkins, #Dolphins Landry, #Jaguars Robinson) http://bit.ly/1W7ea1K

  37. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Draft order is based on strength of schedule with teams that are tied.

  38. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  39. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    There’s cap space to be had. What do we do?
    https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/miami-dolphins

  40. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    So anyone drooling yet with 11, 42 and 73? LOL

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Without specific names or even order, I’d be happy with OL, QB and RB. But we’ll know before the draft during FA what we addressed and what the target should be if it can in the draft. Take the BPAs the first 3 rounds then target need for competition 4-7 with 5 picks, unless we used one or more to trade up. 😉

      • ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

        Need LB….I’d swap out that RB for LB. Just my thoughts

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I don’t think we need a LB high unless he’s BPA. Alonso, McMillan, Anthony and Allen, with the addition of a FS – Jones and McDonald rotating as S/NLB.

      • I don’t think we need to take a rb in the first 3 rds. Too much talent there and its’ going to be a multiple back offense and there’s guys who can fit into that from rd 4 or 5.

      • Alonso isn’t that good. Allen played well but he’s a backup at best; not a starter. And, when you consider the way our LB’s played last season, we definitely could use a top notch LB to go with that unit.

        Offensive line talent is extremely deep this year so no need to go o-line in the first.

  41. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    The bottom line is we have to move the ball on offense and score more TDs or nothing will change. The defense is not the issue even if not great. 😉

  42. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Okoronkwo is only 6’1 if that. At 245 now, he;s maxed out.

  43. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I read somewhere that if we are last in a tie in the draft order that we then become first next meaning round 1 pick 11, round 2 pick 9, round 3 pick 10. Which would equate to #11, #41, #74?
    I’m so confused.

  44. Unless you are going to take the shot and trade up to get one of the top qb prospects in this draft all the other guys are going to have SOME “project” to them and if you’re projecting Tannehill to be the guy going forward then it doesn’t make sense to pick one of the other guys higher if you’re going to sit them behind Tannehill anyway.

  45. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I don’t want to waste a high pick on a QB that won’t play but a few minutes for us next year.
    There are other positions to upgrade which will translate to more points scored and thus more Ws.

    A lot depends on Tannehill’s knee. If he will really be 100%, then we need to draft a guy who is at least a dependable back-up and can be groomed to either take over later or be traded like Jimmy G was.

    We need a stud OG, not filler. A guy who can pull from the left or a road grader on the right.
    We need a stud TE, a guy who puts pressure on the defense and scores TDs.

    And we need another take it to the house RB. Or at least a Big Bruiserback, if you think Drake’s durable. The guy must be able to catch passes either way.

  46. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I have not seen a lot of love for Rosen on here. Draftek now has him #1 QB and #1 overall pick!!!
    I like tall QBs and tall TEs.
    I’d be interested in 6’5 Daniel Jones out of Duke in the late 4th and 6’6 Chase Litton out of Marshall in the 6th.
    Jones is a good runner also.

  47. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    We have Minnesota’s pick in the 4th, right? Could be 32nd.
    Then Tampa’s 7th is early, so it might have a little value left.

  48. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I believe that Miami believes they have their franchise QB in Tannehill, I think Moore may be gone and Fales the back up due to his playing time against Buffalo, so it looks as if the QB position is locked up, common sense tells me with other areas of need we wont be picking a QB early if at all.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I would say Miami believes if healthy, Tannehill will be the QB in 2018. I don’t think they know for sure until he plays the whole season whether he’s their long term starter, which would mean they may pick a QB like the Chiefs did with Patrick Mahomes, even though Alex Smith was locked in as the starter.

  49. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      poor Giants

      Not sure why Saban would want job like that if he didn’t want our job
      I thought he either left Miami bc he could not handle the NFL players or bc Miami was too metropolitan for him

      Either way the Giants don’t seem to resolve either issue

      But I am personally excited to see it happen just to watch the NY Media destroy him

      maybe he is tired of college after winning all those championships?

    • sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

      I don’t want to root against the Giants

  50. D's avatar D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    January 10, 2018 at 11:54 pm

    I don’t think we need a LB high unless he’s BPA. Alonso, McMillan, Anthony and Allen, with the addition of a FS – Jones and McDonald rotating as S/NLB.
    ———————————————
    Just like with anything there are ways around it if you can tailor your teams to the players you have. I do believe you try very hard for players that fit and fit exactly like ya want, but taking a FS because its BPA, and then moving McDonald into a hybrid LB role, and making minor adjustments for that move, is part of successful football. If the LB was the better selection, ie they have Roquan Smith available and Derwin James and Roquan is higher on the board, then you take Roquan and you keep the same basic defensive strategy you had before, you just have more talent to do it better this time around.

    Always getting the most talented player is key, more so than forcing a round peg into a square hole just because you believe that’s a more important position pick. Most of the ideals for getting the right position player, who is the right fit, at the right time can be a very natural thing. I mean you are already motivated to make the team better, so you are already going to have a natural inclination to fell the person is a better fit and therefore higher on your draft board. There is no reason to force a selection out of desperation at that point because you know that guy, because he is the right fit and the right level of talent for the round you are picking in to help the team.

  51. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Tim Knight says:
    January 10, 2018 at 10:12 pm (Edit)
    The 1st rd is what really matters. I think you have a lot to pick from after that. I’m not going to freak out about 41-43. LOL

    *****************

    You get screwed though if you are tied with a lot of teams
    Lets say you are tied with 4 teams
    And you get the 4th lowest pick in the 1st round
    Well then in the 2nd round you don’t get the highest of those four you get the 3rd lowest pick
    and in the 3rd round the 2nd lowest pick
    and you don’t get the highest pick until the 4th round

    Why not do it the other way
    go from 4th lowest in the first round to highest in the 2nd round
    The rotation goes the wrong way

    This is what angered me a few years ago

    anyway, no one says pigs aren’t petty

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It is what it is. They have to have some type of formula. If we weren’t tied with any team we’d pick at the same spot in every round. We pick 9 in the 3rd under this formula.

  52. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Lou, I don’t think we have to take a RB in the 3rd either, I was just throwing it out there because Hunt and Kamara were 3rd rd picks.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Day 2 is always full of good backs

      I think we struck gold with a Ajayi in the 4th
      But more often than not 2nd and 3rd rounds are ideal for backs

      But really, I think we are just looking for some one to share carries with Drake, so we can wait a little

  53. D's avatar D says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    January 11, 2018 at 5:23 am

    Unless you are going to take the shot and trade up to get one of the top qb prospects in this draft all the other guys are going to have SOME “project” to them and if you’re projecting Tannehill to be the guy going forward then it doesn’t make sense to pick one of the other guys higher if you’re going to sit them behind Tannehill anyway.
    ————————————————
    I disagree, but here is why. My belief is none of the QB’s coming out of college are guarantees in any way. I dont mean that none of them can be thrust into that position, whether its planned or by desperation, but just in general, if you have an opportunity to let them at least get a feel for the speed of the game in a better controlled type situation, its the better path. So any person i put behind Tanny, selected from the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd rounds, is a person i think cant take over. Its a person im expecting to at some point, and that includes the possibility it could be day 1.

    The scenario we had with Tanny to start out with is kind of what i am talking about. We had plans to use Garrad as our QB for the year, or at least until we got Tanny ready. Tanny was always intended to take over sometime in the future, but how quickly that was to happen was not expected. When you take a QB early, to me is to say “i need a guy who we want to go with soon, and we wont feel completely lost if its sooner than later”. I dont think you accelerate that or even have different plans for people just because they are a 1st, 2nd or 3rd. Really what it boils down to are fans wanting to see their shiny new toy, and that 1st round pick shines the brightest.

    If you want to know what it will look like if our team takes the im not serious about prepping for a QB chance scenario, look for them to take a guy middle of day 3, rounds 5 or 6. The players you take day 3 are just people who you are rolling the dice on, hoping for situation where you get pleasantly surprised, but not someone that realistically were in long term plans other than, at best, “push my the starter some and maybe replace our backup”. What you get out of that guy is frosting, but you never though he was going to lead your team.

    So IMO, if we take someone by round 3, im feeling certain they are at least addressing the situation in a way that prepare us for the future. The selection they make may turn out bad, but i definitely wont feel like they were attempting to make a significant investment.

    • what I meant was it doesn’t make sense to draft the guys who are the “projects” higher because, IMO (anyway), there’s not that much of a difference between them. When you look at a guy like Allen who is someone you see quite a few people getting all hot and bothered about because of his arm strength it doesn’t make sense to reach for him early when a guy like Benkert who could be as good as or better than him is available later on.

      The scenario we had with Tannehill was we reached for a qb in round 1 that we could have had later and if he wasn’t there and we had to take Cousins or Wilson it would have turned out just as good or better. So, what I’m saying is once you get past Rosen and Darnold and possibly Mayfield and get into your next group of guys there’s no reason to panic and reach for a guy this time around.

  54. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I saw that about Saban to the Giants. He’s gonna handle the biggest market?

  55. D's avatar D says:

    I think this year Day 3 is a perfect spot for us for a RB, and i wouldnt really push taking one. I would take one if i got a really good value selection but early day 3 is more the target zone for me. I think we could get one of the following in day three (though some would likely be very early day 3) and be very happy with it: Bo Scarborough, Royce Freeman, Rashad Penny, Josh Adams, Ralph Webb, Kamryn Pettway (could possibly drop to 7th or UDFA because of a recent injury and his off -field problems, but there is a lot of talent there and he is a big power back).

    I think Jordan Scarlett from UF is also declaring and he will be a later round or UDFA for a guy who probably has 2nd round talent. He was suspended for the whole year because he was part of the group of players that fraudulently used their scholarship prepaid card to buy and return stuff to the bookstore for cash. So his character concerns will make him a buy low opportunity, as long as they teams feel that is behind him. It was his only real incident while there, so we will see.

  56. D's avatar D says:

    A lot of what i feel about what positions to take when isn’t about how strong a need it is for us, but if we have needs in areas shallow with talent or deep with talent. The RB class this year, especially for power backs is pretty deep. This draft is potbellied for RB’s, big clusters of guys who are 2-4th round talent meaning that there will be a few overdrafted in the first and a few value picks all the way to the 5th maybe even 6th rounds. So RB = 4-6th round target. WR is a weak class, the best receiver in this class is a late first in other years, so if we wind up in a situation where we have to replace Landry, or we are over it with Parker and trade him, then we are likely going to need to overdraft a guy just to get someone capable of filling those shoes. So WR = nothing, or day 1-2. So on and so forth.

  57. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    No it’s Minnesota’s pick that Philly got from them, not their natural pick. And Minnesota is liable to end up better in the playoffs than Philly. Dangit.

  58. D's avatar D says:

    Mikey, look up a few posts, its already been refute as a hoax/joke that got picked up and ran with. Arins said he was joking about that and had no real information regarding that Saban thing.

  59. D's avatar D says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    January 11, 2018 at 12:47 pm

    Tim Knight says:
    January 10, 2018 at 10:12 pm (Edit)
    The 1st rd is what really matters. I think you have a lot to pick from after that. I’m not going to freak out about 41-43. LOL

    *****************

    You get screwed though if you are tied with a lot of teams
    Lets say you are tied with 4 teams
    And you get the 4th lowest pick in the 1st round
    Well then in the 2nd round you don’t get the highest of those four you get the 3rd lowest pick
    and in the 3rd round the 2nd lowest pick
    and you don’t get the highest pick until the 4th round

    Why not do it the other way
    go from 4th lowest in the first round to highest in the 2nd round
    The rotation goes the wrong way
    —————————————————–
    Piggy if you are 4th out o those 4 teams in the 1st round its because you had the easiest strength of schedule, so despite the worse record, you should have finished better by their judgement. So the one that got the rough side of that stick, gets the best when in the best round, by as a way to keep it from being completely in their favor the whole way, they shift you up 1, goes to 4, 4 to 3, etc so that that big benefit to you in the first diminishes as you go. I think its done in exactly the right order and see a lot of sense for that method.

    • D's avatar D says:

      NM, it does look like they are doing easier strength of schedule gets the earlier pick, so that is backwards. Maybe easier strength of schedule meant that those other teams that played in the same division were more capable of beating up each other….i see what you are saying now, it is kinda jacked up. We really should be picking 9th in the first.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Fuck that

      I want the highest possible picks

      If it’s not good for the Dolphins, it’s wrong

  60. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Chris Trepasso at CBS mocks us Derwin James in the 1st.

    • D's avatar D says:

      I could see this and i for certain feel Minkah Fitzpatrick would be our selection if he was there at 11. Nelson too. He is almost certain to be there, maybe one other team might take him before us. A lot feel he is the best OL in the draft, regardless of position. Usually that player is a guy someone can see at LT so its a pretty good mark to see an OG with such a high ranking. I will say, however, if look, historically there is always an OG or OC that creeps into the top 10 discussion only to have them always fall back down to reality and get drafted outside the top 15 when the draft rolls around.

  61. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Draftek has us taking Quentin Nelson in the first.

  62. D's avatar D says:

    I think Allen would be worth a 2nd, id draft him there if he was BPA, but i seriously doubt he would be for me because i dont have him crazy highly rated. I do think he will be a starter one day, i think he could be a day 1 starter, but it would be a pretty long year and he would have pretty strong drive and character to gut through that. If we did get him a full year before even thinking about committing him or him having to be the starter, then i think he could be developed into a pretty good QB, maybe even great. If he was in the 3rd round, he’d almost certainly be BPA for me and id select him. Again it would be about the value of the pick. If Faulk and Allen are both there in the 3rd, that would be tough for me because Faulk’s a better right now QB prospect and Allen has a little more big arm/deep game potential. Im also not trying to say Faulk couldnt be elite, i think he can, but most people agree Allen could be very very good, and has more explosive tools to work with. He’s probably this years Mahomes similar accuracy issues, similar big arm, similar gunslinger mentality. Faulk is more this years Jimmy G or Kirk Cousins.

  63. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    D
    You going to the Senior Bowl this year?

  64. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Draftek has Josh Allen at 42. If he is there for us then, do we take him?
    I’d rather take Josh Adams or Damien Harris at RB at 42 than a QB like Josh Allen.

    • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

      According to Draftek’s grades, in our first four rounds, we could get
      OG Nelson
      RB Adams
      TE Fumagalli
      ILB Roquan Smith
      OLB Okoronkwo

  65. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    According to CBS grades:
    OLB Okoronkwo
    RB Royce Freeman
    OG Billy Price
    ILB Mikah Kizer
    TE Fumagalli

  66. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Ian Rapoport
    Ian Rapoport
    @RapSheet
    The #Raiders have received permission to interview #Dolphins OL coach Dave DeGuglielmo for OAK’s OL job, source said. It’ll happen on Monday

  67. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Walterfootball’s Charlie Campbell has us taking Denzel Ward Ohio State CB in the first. No thanks.
    According to Walter Football’s grades:
    CB Ward or ILB Roquan Smith (LOL, big choice there!)
    RB Derius Guice
    TE Hayden Hurst
    ILB Jerome Baker
    G/C Sean Welsh Iowa

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      Walters usually knows very little about the Dolphins until close to draft time. We have someone leave or sucks, they just fill in a name. They usually are more accurate by draft time but everyone seems to have a decent idea of who goes where by then.

      • D's avatar D says:

        Charlie is the better mockster there. He also does more research on the players and goes to Senior Bowl and has some contacts within the scouting community. Walter has contacts with a few different people and is really good at scraping information off internet sources, etc.

    • D's avatar D says:

      I think Smith will for sure wind up going in the first round, though there is a smaller subset of defenses tat he is a really good fit for so , ge could go anywhere from about 10-25 i think. I dont see him dropping much lower or going much higher.

      I think Hayden Hurst status kind of hinges on combine numbers because how they used him at South Carolina didnt really showcase his receiving ability or speed. You could see it off and on again, but just not a play by play of his receiving ability. You get a good idea that he is a solid blocker though. He puts up good combine numbers i think probably 2nd round for him, he puts up ok numbers 3rd and somewhat disappointing, 4-5th. I think he is a guy you want to be a receiving threat straight out the gate, because he is a little older than most rookies will be, and as a pure blocking TE you wont get much of of his shortened NFL lifespan.

      Baker didn’t really play well this year but he has some really high end athletic skills. Im sure that his speed and agility drills could help him at combine, but i think a lot of people will be watching his skill assessments and go off the combine interviews. Im thinking anywhere from 2-4.

      Darius Guice is probably going to be an 1st rounder, or very early second rounder. He is benefiting from players like Kareem Hunt, Alvin Kamara and Dalvin Cook (prior to injury) blowing up this year. Guice is really very comparable to Cook because both, even having that outstanding speed could run up the middle and are pretty capable blockers and receivers.

      Sean Welsh i think has a decent chance to be a 3 or 4th round guy. Senior Bowl week i think will benefit him a lot.

  68. D's avatar D says:

    wyoming85 says:
    January 11, 2018 at 3:43 pm

    D
    You going to the Senior Bowl this year?
    —————————————
    Unless something comes up last minute and ruins those plans. Ill probably go to the meet and greet day too, maybe some of the practices.

  69. D's avatar D says:

    Ill have to say though, even Walter’s mock makes more sense than any of the other ones from the other groups Naples listed. At least had players in relatively close to the right spots.

  70. D's avatar D says:

    Of those listed by Naples above:
    Welsh, Fumagalli, Kizer, Okoronkwo, and Freeman, have all accepted invites. There a ton of guys im a little curious about their playstyle that i hope i can figure out exactly how i feel about where i could really see what round we might consider taking them in.

  71. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2018/01/11/dolphins-2017-nfl-draft-class-grading-chris-griers-hits-misses/

    YAY! Hoorah now if you can start doing much better in the first 3 Rounds you might make something of this team….

  72. D's avatar D says:

    http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2017/12/27/dolphins-g-isaac-asiata-sits-all-year-vows-im-not-doing-this-again/

    This is a pretty good article to see, as it does looke to me at least Asiata is taking a professional approach to his red-shirt year and hopefully will push himself harder next year.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Him winning a starting job next year and most importantly playing well would be ideal for us. I’m rooting for him, he seems like a good guy.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I have no idea how he’s listed at 341 when he was 323 at the combine. How do you put that much weight on going through TC in the south florida heat?

  73. D's avatar D says:

    The more i consider it the more i feel like we might have an alternate option to drafting a RB in 2018. I dont think it would be a bad idea to consider Eddie Lacy as a possible FA option. As a feature back i wouldn’t really want him, despite his early success, but he should be a cheap option to pick up in FA, probably no more than it would take to re-sign Williams, and i think we would get more benefit from him as a grinder back, who would have short yardage and clock grinding duties. Hell we could use him in place of Gray as a FB and maybe keep Williams too.

    • D's avatar D says:

      I wouldnt want to spen much in FA on a Rb so player like Isiah Crowell interest me but i would bet he is going to be more expensive. Carlos Hyde and Charles Sims might be in the same boat, but Sims injury last year and Hyde’s fall from grace in a system he should have thrived in, may have both of those guy at value numbers, so id pitch them, but not worry if they didn’t take the team friendly number i gave. They would be more mirrors of the skillset Drake has, they are both good receivers and i know Sims is a good blocker, not sure about Hyde.

  74. D's avatar D says:

    If we lost Landry in FA, there are a couple alpha receivers out there we could look at that probably wind up being about the same cost as Landry or slightly less.

    Watkins maybe, if the Rams dont tag him. Looks like Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp were Goff’s favorite targets, so maybe Watkins is a luxury they wont spend to keep.

    Taylor Gabriel is that blistering fast little slot guy that the Falcons have, and he would be a significant savings, but i dont think he would be someone we could expect to contribute as much.

    Paul Richardson is one of the most reliable receivers i have seen in a while and has a little more dynamic ability and still likely is cheaper.

    Donte Moncrief would be a cheaper option, and he is a ton better than his stats say. Without Luck around for almost all of the past two years he has suffered a good bit but with Luck in there he looked pretty good.

    Landry is the best receiver on the market this year, and i really want to re-sign him, but its going to be very expensive to do it because even the WR1’s for this FA group dont have as many as Landry does on the year that Landry had his first under 1000 in 3 years.

  75. D's avatar D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    January 11, 2018 at 6:06 pm

    I have no idea how he’s listed at 341 when he was 323 at the combine. How do you put that much weight on going through TC in the south florida heat?
    ———————————–
    nom nom nom

  76. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Just say no to Eddie Donuts Lacy…..

    • D's avatar D says:

      Im not worried about his weight if im not worried about him making more than 3-4 yards a carry smashing into people fatter than him but much fatter than Drake.

  77. D's avatar D says:

    Cheapsih TE options from FA. Trey Burton, ASJ, and i would say take a shot at Eifert, but he is hurt so much its probably a Jordan Cameron 2.0 trap.

  78. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    D, I was thinking about this recently that Gase might want another RB like Drake so when he comes out nothing changes as opposed to a totally different type of a back. Not saying don’t have a big, physical back on the roster, but that guy might only need to be a handful of rushes type of guy.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Yeah thats what im thinking about with Lacy, though i would expect more rushes for him if we got into a position where we had decent leads going into the 4th. Again, id use him as a short yardage back in certain situations, maybe even as the FB like we have been with Gray to either bust open a hole for Drake or take a quick hand-off for a short yardage pickup. If we had Lacy, Williams and Drake, or even a guy like Charles Sims, Drake and Lacy that would be a really decent RB group.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I think if we improve our OL Drake has the potential to have a big season. When he gets out in space you better have an angle on him or he’s taking it to the house. He also showed that he can get some consistent chunk yards.

  79. D's avatar D says:

    OL in FA is just a bad thing imo. I know its tempting to get someone that has passd the NFL test already but if you want one who you are pretty confidant can help you, you have to spend 10mil a year on them, and if you dont and you get one of the 5-6mil ones, you probably just wasted 5-6 mil of your cap. I cant find a FA this year that i dont think will either cost us way too much or just really aren’t that great.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Similar thing for DL guys, in fact id rather just re-sign Hayes and maybe Fede than go for any of the other FA’s out there. They would either be too expensive (Like Ansah or Lawrence) or they really wouldn’t be much of an upgrade over anyone we have.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Draft pass rushers, they are way too expensive in FA. Malveaux might be a guy who we roll with over Hayes and Fede on the cheap.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      There are always relatively cheap guys available who can do a solid job but are not pro bowl level.

      • D's avatar D says:

        I dont see that really make me think upgrade over what we have. At best some of them might give us equivalent play. We need some talented young guys added from the draft and continue to build depth behind them. The guys we have been playing there recently would be OK in case of injury, we just dont want to have all of them on the field at the same time. Larsen probably would have been much better with a fully healthy Pouncey and Tunsil, but we need to start having guys who dont have to be helped out so much just to be adequate, we need players that are at least slightly better than adequate on their own, allowing them to add something to the others around them. When we have everyone at least on that level, the OL will both work like it should and it will suffer an injury or two without coming completely unraveled.

  80. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Lol at fat guys D

    Lacy couldn’t even see the field in Seattle. I don’t even see his career continuing.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I kind of agree. I drafted him in FF and cut him real early when I found out he was like 4th on the depth chart.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I understand D’s point though on that kind of back. If our offense could ever get a lead and maybe by two scores, a power runner to eat some clock would be good. The problem is Lacy might literally eat the clock. LOL

    • D's avatar D says:

      I think its just how your looking at him. I think you are right, he is never going to see the light of being a productive back anymore, but as a FB/grinder back, there is a role he can still do. Thats not what Seattle needed him for, and on the cheap, which he will be because of all the things you are mentioning, i think he is an option for us in a role where he isn’t 4th on the depth chart, he is first on the depth chart for his imited role.

      I have no vision for him as a equal share kind of back, but Drake doesn’t need to be a guy we push to be a 300+ carry back and he isnt a guy we want to limit his time on the field while we are still trying to score more points. Im just talking about taking some of the more brutal times of the game, 4th quarter and all we are doing is just handing off into a sea of fatties. Surely Lacy is a good a back for that and he probably has a good bit more potential to squirt through for 5-6 during those times too keeping the chains moving, than a lot of others that will come as cheap.

      Id rather draft a guy like Scarborough because i think he can gives us an even better dimension there and give us similar grind time function, but we cant guarantee we get him, because someone may just draft him before us, and thats the same for any of the backs in the draft. FA we can lock a guy in before we get to the point where we are chancing the draft or likely , we can even wait until after the draft and if we havent got anyone we can pick up a guy like Lacy or Tolbert, im just saying we could open our options a little more and not have to use a pick on a RB if we find better use for the picks on other players because we do have somewhat affordable options in FA. I also think Lacy is better than given credit for. This is the first year he hasn’t averaged more than 4 a carry, so maybe its just a bad year, and its wasn’t the right fit for him.

  81. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Phins fire RB coach….. that’s odd. Maybe his fault Ajayi wouldn’t run the right hole. Lol

  82. D's avatar D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    January 11, 2018 at 6:54 pm

    I understand D’s point though on that kind of back. If our offense could ever get a lead and maybe by two scores, a power runner to eat some clock would be good. The problem is Lacy might literally eat the clock. LOL
    —————————————–
    Maybe if he is eating the clock though, Asiata will stop. Win!

  83. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    D, Larsen would have probably been better with a healthy him. 😉

  84. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    D says:
    January 11, 2018 at 6:01 pm
    I wouldnt want to spen much in FA on a Rb so player like Isiah Crowell interest me but i would bet he is going to be more expensive. Carlos Hyde and Charles Sims might be in the same boat, but Sims injury last year and Hyde’s fall from grace in a system he should have thrived in, may have both of those guy at value numbers, so id pitch them, but not worry if they didn’t take the team friendly number i gave. They would be more mirrors of the skillset Drake has, they are both good receivers and i know Sims is a good blocker, not sure about Hyde.
    ————
    According to PFF (take it for what it’s worth), Carlos Hyde is THE worst blocking RB in the NFL… DEAD LAST out of all qualifying RBs. I’m not sure how a 6’0″, 230 pound man can suck that badly at blocking, but it happens. Surely he can be taught better technique, or maybe he’s just not a willing blocker.

    I’ve been high on Hyde since Ohio State, but he’s been wildly inconsistent over his 4 year NFL career. He’s had 14 career games rushing over 5.0 YPG, 16 career games rushing under 3.0 YPG, and only 4 career games (out of 50 games) rushing for more than 100 yards in a game (twice @ the Seahawks, interestingly).

    When he’s on, he’s on. When he’s off, he’s off. If he can be had for a value contract, I’d consider it… but ya just don’t know if you’re going to get Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde… *rim-shot*

  85. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Alex Marvez

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    Source tells @sportingnews that former @broncos RBs coach Eric Studesville is interviewing for a @MiamiDolphins staff position

  86. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Wasn’t our RB coach Danny Barrett a career Canadian league guy?

  87. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    D, I understand what you’re saying but a mix of pro level OL even if not special with young guys can balance out and give you quality as opposed to a lot of developmental guys. But I agree we need to add more from the draft, hopefully a stud who can start day one.

  88. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Not that it’s all the position coaches’ fault for our season on offense, but no doubt Gase doesn’t like where the offense is at and has said so for two years. So he’s making changes and shaking shit up.

  89. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    MY CALENDAR DRIVEN move from football to NHL hockey was made easier by the early end of Miami’s playoff hopes. The fact that the NHL’s best team is right in my back yard has made the transition an easy one. Local scribes say this edition of the Lightning MAY be the BEST in their 25 year history, including the Stanley Cup winning team of 2004. We’re looking forward to attending a few games over the next 3-4 months IF WE CAN GET TICKETS at a somewhat reasonable price. Unlike our Dolphins, the Lightning have not only sold out every seat to every game, they’ve also had a FANNY IN EVERY SEAT IN EVERY GAME!!! For the next 3-4 months, the Lightning will absolutely dominate the sports pages and the local sports reports WHILE INTEREST IN THE RAYS in particular and MLB in general continues to wane for fans of all teams not named “The Yankees,” whose spring training games will outdraw the average of Rays’ regular season games!! So hockey, college basketball, the weekend of the NFL draft, March Madness, and the Stanley Cup Playoffs will be my sports fix until exhibition football begins in August.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I’ve gotten into hockey a bit again as a Flyer’s fan because they’re rolling with a lot of young players with some core vets. They have a lot of 1st rd picks over the last few years coming to the big team.

      They can be inconsistent and go through scoring droughts then explode for a few games and show their skill. They need to tighten up on defense and find that guy in the net. But they have a lot of upside for the future.

  90. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Fijian kava > Hawaiian kava… it’s more potent and has a slightly better taste, IMO. I feel GOOD.

  91. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Speed-demon draft watch (faster than 4.40)

    Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State (4.37)
    Taivon Jacobs, WR, Maryland (4.37)
    Cameron Batson, WR, Texas Tech (4.37)
    Ronald Jones II, RB, USC (4.39)
    D.J. Chark, WR, LSU (4.39)

  92. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Tallest and heaviest prospect for ’18

    Cody OConnell, G, Washington State: 6’8″, 368 pounds

  93. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

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  94. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Gotta love my little home town!

  95. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    RANKED: All 32 NFL Head Coaches from Worst to Best

    10. Adam Gase – Miami Dolphins

    Miami hit on a homerun hire when they brought in renowned quarterback whisperer, Adam Gase, as head coach. One year later, Gase has already shown how he can elevate an entire roster where top-level talent is missing.

    Before suffering a season-ending injury, sixth-year quarterback Ryan Tannehill set career-highs in completion percentage, yards per attempt, and passer rating. Somehow with Matt Moore lining up under center the Dolphins were able to finish 2-1 to clinch their first playoff spot since 2008.

    With Gase leading the way, the future is bright in The Magic City.

    http://newarena.com/nfl/ranked-all-32-nfl-head-coaches-from-worst-to-best/11/?amxt=fbdt_avnt2

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Wyo – That was before this season. I’m curious to see how far he drops after going 6-10 this season. If they just go by this season alone, he could be between 20-32.

  96. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Tim , you are correct on Barrett .. he was a very decent QB in CFL for years… the Winnipeg Blue Bombers RB coach is also our former QB Buck Pierce … i thought it a strange assignment then .. and was surprised when i saw Barrett was the Fins.is RB coach that much of an Entry Level position???

  97. What do you guys think about Jerick McKinnon in FA?

  98. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    MANITOBA: Our paper says temps in Winnipeg will range from 7 below zero to 20 below zero today!!–Time to snuggle up with the wife!
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    REAL LIFE Dirty Harry of Eastwood film fame died in San Francisco at 86. He was also the model for Steve McQeen’s “Bullett” character. Do you feel lucky, punk???

  99. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Lou – I’d bet Gase would like McKinnon, he’s an excellent receiver, but my guess is we’re not going to want to pay what he’s going to get.

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