The Wedge Scouting Report: Mike White, Western Kentucky

 

One of my favorite weapons is the BetaGasBomb.  When it makes contact with the surface it unleashes a cloud of gas which kills everything in it!  It’s a slow death.

betabomb

Don’t ever say Wedge isn’t generous though.  When I drop this bomb, I leave the lifeforms I gas, just enough time to draft a last will.  In fact I even provide a pre-printed will with the bomb which also spread all over the surface.

Wedgewill

Why so generous?  Watching a QB spread the ball around like Mike White will do that to you.

NCAA Football: Western Kentucky at Florida Atlantic

The Positives:  Western Kentucky has been putting some prolific offenses on the field the last few years and the last two years with Mike White as their QB, they continued that trend.  Over 4300 yards passing in 2016 and over 4100 yards in 2017 with 63 total touchdowns over those last two years.  Of course he threw close to 1000 times but WOW!  His QB rating was off the charts at an impressive 158.1 while he was at Western Kentucky.

But it’s not just stats, its physical skills.  At 6-4, 225 pounds he has the size that NFL scouts want from their QBs.  He’s also got a cannon of an arm.  In fact, White, who was also a pitcher in high school, is said to have a 90 mph fastball.

I think White’s a heady college QB who reads defenses well.  He does a good job of manipulating defenses to create small windows when the deep ball isn’t there but he has an impressive deep ball too.  He completed an impressive 57% of his deep throws.

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The Negatives:  The obvious weakness – he played for Western Kentucky (after transferring form South Florida).  Maybe he is just a system QB.  Dolfans might recall that Western Kentucky also produced Brandon Doughty  who hasn’t done much in the NFL.

He has also taken a ton of sacks at Western Kentucky – 45 times in 2017 which lead to 12 fumbles.  Of course, Western Kentucky has a notably bad offensive line, so in a way, he should be ready for the Dolphins should they select him.

Unless a roster is just devoid of any QBs, don’t expect Mike White to start in 2018.  This guy probably needs a little time to be NFL ready.

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The Alien Dust:  White is from Pembroke Pines Florida, just around the corner from Davie.  He’s a local product and was recommended to the Dolphins from another Western Kentucky local product in Doughty (who risks losing a job to White should White be drafted by the Dolphins).

The Dolphins have shown some interest in White and this pick would not surprise me in the 3rd round or 4th if he lasts through the 4th.  I don’t think White goes any higher than the 2nd round and I doubt he is on the board in the 5th.

He has better tools to work with than his Western Kentucky predecessor (Doughty) and should be able to at least be a quality backup in the NFL.

 

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White is similar to one of my favorite weapons – the BetaGasBomb.

whitebomb

You can watch his highlights here!

 

 

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388 Responses to The Wedge Scouting Report: Mike White, Western Kentucky

  1. Tim Knight says:

    Lou, Tannehill was projected to go possibly top 10 or by 15 or so. That’s not a reach. That’s your negative opinion about him coming out. Some people liked Tannehill more than RGIII. I remember that draft and what the discussions were. This was before he was a Dolphin by the way so don’t use the Tannehill homer thing on me. This was strictly pre-draft discussions. Just like it is now.

    • I know what the discussions were and Tannehill was hyped by a lot of people just like others were hyped. Just because he was hyped to go in the 1st rd doesn’t mean he wasn’t a reach. It was up to the team to do their homework on him and make their own decision rather than listening to all the talking heads out there.

      They didn’t do their homework and they chose to go with him at #8. Had they done their homework properly there’s no way they could have arrived at the conclusion that he was worth a top ten pick. NO WAY.

    • Tim,
      Face it. For the results we’ve gotten to this point in terms of our record we could have taken Foles later and gotten the same results. We didn’t need to take Tannehill in the first to accomplish nothing over 6 years.

  2. Someone on Twitter said earlier today that Carolina is in win-now mode because Newton’s not getting any younger and they need a wr like Landry. Imagine if we traded Landry to Carolina and then they won the SB. We’d be 2-0.

  3. ElephantRider says:

    Taking RT17 @ 8 still beats the hell out of the Fuckface pick! Lol
    Or quite a few others in recent memory….

  4. Tim Knight says:

    Lou, reality and the football world according to Lou are two different things. I’m not into hearing you repeat why you don’t like Tannehill. That wasn’t the discussion but you can’t control yourself. LOL

    • The reality is these guys out there talk up guys every year and they get themselves to believe the bullshit spewing from their mouths and then you’ve got incompetent people at the head of some of the teams who listen to those guys and go for it.

      That’s REALITY Tim. Like it or not. This year’s guy is Josh Allen. Only one guy I’ve seen so far who said that every qb who’s had his issues coming out never did anything in the NFL but all the others think he can be fixed. Because he’s got a strong arm. LMAO!!

  5. mf13ss says:

    Mike E. says:
    February 27, 2018 at 7:55 pm
    I get that, it just doesn’t seem fair, but you’re right, we’re gonna have to eat it.
    ———–
    It TOTAL seems unfair. Jarvis is worth AT LEAST an early 2nd rounder. I mean, we spent a 2nd rounder to get him and he’s outperformed his Draft status by FAR.

    I wouldn’t part ways with him unless we got a 1st rounder, if the idea is to trade him. But like ER stated above, I’d rather just get a deal done to retain him.

  6. Mike E. says:

    Lou – Maybe Tannehill at #8 wasn’t really the mistake, they never got the O-line right, we had a horrible stable of WR’s when he was drafted, and they made desperate moves, we had an awful HC, it was just a disaster all over the place.

    • ElephantRider says:

      He wasnt supposed to play….supposed to sit and develop.
      Nothing has gone to “plan” for this team

    • It was a mistake because when you draft a guy at #8 to be your qb you’re expecting that the guy is going to project to be the type of player who can win games for you with his arm and Tannehill isn’t that type of qb. He needs too much around him.

    • Tim Knight says:

      In hindsight all true. 2012 Ireland put together the worst group of WRs you could meaning 4-5 deep. We had two Bess and Hartline. Then in 2013 he tried to fix that and blew up the OL. Heading into 2014 we had Pouncey. Hickey had to spend most of his time on the OL. We’re still feeling that. We didn’t have a group to build on, we had a center. We also missed on mid round guys. It is what it is but it gets ignored quite often.

  7. Mike E. says:

    M – No question, signing him to a fair deal would be my choice, but if I had to pick a 3rd RD pick or having him play for us on the tag with no shot at ever signing him, I’d take the 3rd RD pick. I don’t think the Dolphins want to go beyond $13M per, which I believe is correct, but Jarvis doesn’t agree.

    • mf13ss says:

      I’m not sure that playing on the tag would jeopardize signing Jarvis long-term. It might not make financial sense for us to do that, but I don’t believe that it would be an automatic ‘adios’ after the year is over.

      However, history is on the side of parting ways after playing on the tag.

      • Everyone knows the team isn’t going to keep Landry on the tag and if he’s not traded the tag is going to be rescinded. Only way he’s signed long-term is if his terms change and that’s probably not happening.

        The interesting thing will be if there’s a team that wants him bad enough to not allow him to hit the open market in fear of them having to get into a bidding war. That’s where we could get maybe a 2nd for him; if he agrees to a contract with the other team.

      • And that’s the one thing we’ve got going for us that the Chiefs didn’t with Peters. There was only one team interested in him, whereas, we’ve got a few teams who are interested in Landry. So that could work in our favor when it comes to the compensation part.

      • Mike E. says:

        It wouldn’t jeopardize that, but there’s a gap between what the FO thinks Jarvis is worth, and what he thinks, and playing another year isn’t going to change that IMO

  8. mf13ss says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    February 27, 2018 at 8:21 pm
    who exactly was he supposed to sit behind?
    ———
    David Garrard. But if I recall correctly, I think Tannehill was named the winner of the QB competition before Garrard got hurt in his pool with his kid.

    Anyone remember how that went down?

  9. son of a son of a shula says:

    We could have had Keuchley and Cousins.

    We took Tannehill, Martin and Eggballs

  10. mf13ss says:

    Prof Lou, are you a “TanneHATER”? LOL

  11. ElephantRider says:

    Maybe 1 thing we all can agree on is that Phins should be taking QB somewhere in the draft.

  12. Tim Knight says:

    We should write a woulda shoulda coulda song so everyone can get it out of their system. LOL

  13. Tim Knight says:

    Whatever gets your rocks off King Louie.

  14. wyoming85 says:

  15. mf13ss says:

    Prof Lou,

    What round would you take Benkert?

  16. wyoming85 says:

    I don’t think anyone knows what the front office is going to do so stating anything in an absolute is just speculation!

    of course that’s just MHFO

  17. The Flying Pig says:

    Thanks for the reminder about David Garrard guys

    Why don’t you just post pics of pig roasts if you want to rub salt in my wounds

    Didn’t garrard hurt himself playing in the pool with his kids or something like that? Wtf!?!?!

  18. Tim Knight says:

    The combine and FA sneaking up on us, almost here. That will be a nice change of discussion. 😉

  19. wyoming85 says:

    Could be Lou!
    But you going to turn on the new guy after a couple of losses?

    • All depends on who it is. If we stay at #11 and pick a qb just for the sake of getting another one in the 1st rd and it’s some guy who’s going to need 4 yrs to develop then I’ll just go root for Philly. lol

      But, seriously, If we’re going to be aggressive as the piece states, although I don’t think Landry plus our #11 is going to get us into the top 5, we’re getting either Darnold, Mayfield or Rosen and I’ll be good with any of the 3. My biggest concern is the lack of cap and what else it may cost us in terms of draft capital we have this year that could be used to help the team.

  20. The Flying Pig says:

  21. mf13ss says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    February 27, 2018 at 8:50 pm
    I’d say no later than the 4th right now but by the time the draft rolls around I think he’s going to be in more conversations.
    ————-
    At the moment, the 4th round sounds really good to me for Benkert.

    I need to look at some other QBs that aren’t projected to go the first two days of the Draft, and Benkert will be one of them, for sure.

    I’m still high on Logan Woodside as a 7th rounder… he’s good great tools to work with and that VERY quick release. If anybody can bring out the best in him (or ANY QB, for that matter), it’s Adam and Clyde.

  22. wyoming85 says:

    Boom!

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 11: Nelson, Quenton, OG, Notre Dame (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 10: Andrews, Mark, TE, Oklahoma (A)
    Round 3 Pick 9: Penny, Rashaad, RB, San Diego State (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 11: Leonard, Darius, OLB/ILB, South Carolina State (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 30: Lewis, Tyquan, DE, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 9: Benkert, Kurt, QB, Virginia (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 5: Matthews, Tray, SS, Auburn (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 11: Bozeman, Bradley, C, Alabama (A)

  23. The Flying Pig says:

  24. olddolphan says:

    HEY MANITOBA!! –Watched your boy Hendricks score a goal for the Jets against the Predators.–This game, between two likely playoff teams, certainly has a chippy side to it. The Preds’ PK Subban already got involved in one arm swinging scrum, and it likely won’t be his last one tonight.–I’d sure like to see the 3rd period but father time says “NO!” –Hope you and your special lady are enjoying this game. And, BTW, the size 8 Jets hat fits perfectly, now that my hair cut is shorter for the upcoming highs in the mid-80’s.
    ——-
    Lightning fans very pleased with the acquisition of star defenseman Ryan McDonagh from the Rangers just before the trading deadline. Locals yawning at the opening of spring training for the ultra low budget Rays. First place Lightning dominating local sports interest. Y’all have a great evening!

  25. ElephantRider says:

    Remember…Landry is in the driver’s seat. He still has all the say where he’s going…

    • Tim Knight says:

      Nope! If he doesn’t sign it he sits out for a year and gets nothing. That’s not really control.

      • ElephantRider says:

        I’m talking about this trade talk nonsense.
        I’m sure he will be more than happy playing in Miami for 16M.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yes, but he doesn’t control the situation. The team does. That’s why if a team jumps up and offers him the contract he wants and he we say no, we get two 1st round picks. How does Landry decide anything?

  26. ElephantRider says:

    Huh?

    If he signs with another team, that’s his decision. If he chooses not to “sign and trade” that’s his decision too. He only runs out of his decisions if everything runs it’s course and nothing happens. Then Phins can rescind tag….still kinda Landry controlling his landing spot.

    • Tim Knight says:

      If he never signs he’s not part of the league. He has no team. He’s being forced to accept something. The CBA agreed to this. Bad move on their part.

      • ElephantRider says:

        I get that part. I also think he’s more than happy playing for 16M. Big issue is no security. I agree they messed up on the tag for players. I’m sure they got something they wanted to give that up.

        I’m sure it’ll be addressed on the next lock out/strike. Lol

      • Tim Knight says:

        Cool, man. 🙂

  27. manitobafinfan says:

    OD : ya missed a helluva 3rd period, end result sucked but was a helluva game.. im pretty stoked with us picking up Stastny.. looked great on our new all Skandinavian line with Ehlers and Laine , he also Killed it in the face off circle.. things looking good here .. hope to see us vs Tampa in Finals.

    Condolences on the passing of yer greyhound.. it sucks , we had to put our two special girls down over the last 3 years.. wife brought home another one three months after we had given all the kennels and crap away , so we started all over..

    Glad to see yer Missus is feeling better as well ..
    Go Phins !!! Go (Winnipeg) Jets !!

  28. rich0322 says:

    This is interesting.

    …proposals offered by the NFL Competition Committee.

    -change the penalty for defensive pass interference from a spot foul to a 15-yard penalty at most.

    -increase illegal contact calls.

    -eliminating the going to the ground portion of a catch in an attempt to clarify.

    -changing the targeting rule.

    -emphazing more ejections for fighting.

    -Josh McDaniels rule, allowing teams to hire coaches even when still active in playoffs.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t love “increase illegal contact” calls

      Is that a safety concern? Doesn’t seem to be on its face.
      The nfl should be taking steps not to over officiate games

  29. DeSean Jackson finally talked about Chip Kelly after all these years and called him a “weirdo”. lol

  30. How about Cam Wake and DeVante Parker to Jacksonville for Dawuane Smoot and Carroll Phillips? Gives the Jags a wr for Bortles to work with and a possible pass rusher that may help put them over the top this year and we get something for Wake rather than just cutting him whether it be this year or next and also get two young defenders on their rookie contracts.

  31. Rhino says:

    I “pop in” periodically, so just now reading about your surgery, Ken. Wishing you all the best! These things are certainly as difficult emotionally as they are physically. Take care of yourself.

  32. Rhino says:

    Was reading the reports on Kirk Cousins…. every time I hear that name I think back to 2012 draft, specifically how MF13 sold me on Kirk Cousins in the 2nd round rather than taking a QB in 1st since the one’s we wanted would have been gone. Then Tanny happened at #8. lol Cousins certainly isn’t perfect, but he’s been a great “value” up to this point, imo. But I don’t think the $100million talk is a good idea.

    • mf13ss says:

      And to think… I wanted Case Keenum more than ANY of them in the ’12 Draft! Only Russell Wilson has made it further than Case’s NFC Championship game run.

  33. Mike E. says:

    ER – I want to discuss this Landry situation with you. When you say Landry would be more than happy to play for MIA for $16.2M, I think that’s the furthest from the truth. Why do you think players get upset when they get the franchise tag? They want a multi year deal with a lot more guaranteed money. Not that $16.2M sucks or anything, but he’s looking for close to a $60M deal with like $40M guaranteed. I don’t think either party really has any leverage. If the Dolphins are able to find a team that’s willing to give Landry his price, or close to it, then that’s a win for Landry. If for some reason the Dolphins can’t get what they’re looking for in compensation, and don’t want to make the trade, maybe Landry decides to go back to the table with MIA, and make a deal for say $13.25M per year for 4YR’s, so 4YR $53M contract, with say 35M guaranteed.

    Think about it, he’s coming off of his best season TD wise, he’s not going to do much better than he did last season. His YPR might improve if we, or some other team uses him a little differently, but he’s not going to catch more passes or TD’s than he did last season. I’m not saying it’s cut and dry, and he might just do what you say, sign the tag in July, but if he thinks he’s worth that $14.5M annual salary, you’d think he’d roll the dice to see what interest there is in him, rather than just settle for the 1 YR salary of $16.2M, which if he gets injured, completely screws up the rest of his plan.

  34. mf13ss says:

    ———-
    Another QB enters FA

  35. wyoming85 says:

  36. mf13ss says:

  37. mf13ss says:

    The Panthers sure do seem to be clearing cap space…

  38. mf13ss says:

    rich0322 says:
    February 28, 2018 at 11:16 am
    He’s a monster!!!

    Would you use Landry to try and trade up with Chicago or TB to get him???
    ————
    I don’t think I could trade up for a non-skill positional player… especially a Guard. But dammit… in the case of Quenton Nelson, I’m very tempted.

    Traditional wisdom would tell ya, NO WAY do you trade up from R1P11 to take a GUARD in the top-10.

    I wouldn’t do it… and then I might hate myself for the next 15 years.

  39. mf13ss says:

    Here’s a deal that I could see playing out… and I’m NOT endorsing as much…

    We trade R1P11, Jarvis Landry, and either our ’19 2nd or 3rd round pick to move up to R1P4 (Browns). And I think the ONLY way we’d make such a deal is to get the best QB available in this QB-rich class.

  40. Mike E. says:

    M, rgs – Last night they were discussing the Panthers situation at WR, and they all felt the Panthers would have very little interest in trading for Landry, that they will turn to the draft for their WR. It was Gil Brandt and Alex Marvez, along with another guest I can’t recall.

    • mf13ss says:

      I agree with Brandt and Marvez. They can get a VERY good WR @ R1P24 in this Draft class. They’d be wise to secure their O-Line in re-signing Norwell.

  41. mf13ss says:

    • Mike E. says:

      He was a very good player for the Bears, a great receiving RB. Probably a better receiver than pure runner, but he was a pretty good runner as well.

  42. Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP!

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