2018 Miami Dolphins – Free Agency – OG

How we address the OL this year is going to determine the success, or failure of our team.  We’ve been using half measures for too long, and it’s time to finally get that unit performing at a high level.  Without inside knowledge from the team, I feel strongly that this O-line will be made right, or they will die trying for this season.  The news last night regarding the non-exclusive franchise tag designation for WR Jarvis Landry, at least at the moment, almost ensures we’re going to have to use the draft to fix the O-line.  The $16.2M salary for this season will prohibit a big free agent signing, leaving the draft as the more likely alternative.  Unless of course, the Dolphins work out a long term contract with Landry.  We’ll have to wait and see on that.  The Dolphins will still be making quite a few cuts and restructures, but those cuts won’t add up to one of the best FA OL, so that would mean more half measures.  Skip it guys, and do it right!

Andrew Norwell  6’6 325   26YO

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2018’s version of Kevin Zeitler, who was last year’s best guard on the market.  Zeitler was 27, Norwell is even younger at 26.  Norwell, despite playing well, has started and finished each game he’s been asked to the last 3 years.  He played and started 13 games in ’15, and then the following 2 seasons in ’16 and ’17 he started 16 games, so Norwell has shown he’s durable.  Sounds great, right?  It is, but unless we free up massive cap space, we just can’t afford to pay Norwell what he’s going to get, which is north of $11M per season, and closer to $12M  He would be a fantastic pickup for the Dolphins, and finally give us a legitimate LG, which I believe would also make our young LT , Laremy Tunsil, so much better.  We’ll have to wait and see how the Landry situation plays out, because until something happens on that front, it’s going to make this kind of signing nearly impossible.

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Jonathan Cooper  6’2 311  28YO

NFL: Dallas Cowboys at San Francisco 49ers

Wow!  Remember Jonathan Cooper?  Tim had him penciled in as our 1st RD draft pick so many years ago on our live draft!  Jahn and I had exhausting debates on who was the better player, Jonathan Cooper or Chance Warmack.  Here we are 5 years later, and Cooper may have had the most bizarre career path ever.  After being drafted at #7 by the Arizona Cardinals, Cooper broke his fibula in the 3rd preseason game, ending his season.  Replaced by (He-he) Ted Larsen, Cooper was unable to regain his starting spot, and some felt the leg injury may have hurt him more than expected.  Wrist injuries and knee injuries gave the job back to Larsen after Cooper finally got his shot to start.

In 2016, Cooper and a 2nd RD draft pick were sent to the New England Patriots to acquire DE Chandler Jones.  Cooper NEVER played a game for the Patriots.  He was waived, and then the Browns picked him up, and in ’16, all Cooper could manage was 5 games and 3 starts for the Browns.  Last season, Cooper was picked up by the Cowboys, and he finally got some meaningful playing time, starting 13 games on that vaunted line.  He played well last season, and due to his uneven career, he should be a relative bargain.  Granted, this could easily be filed under the half measure side of the ledger, but Cooper was an extremely talented prospect, that just seems to have had some bad luck. 5 years in the NFL, 1 broken leg and 4 teams.  He played well for the Cowboys last season, maybe Cooper’s star is on the rise for good now.

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Josh Kline  6’3 310   28YO

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Kline was an undrafted free agent in 2013 who was picked up by the New England Patriots.  Kline had to wait a couple of years before being elevated to starter, and in ’15, Kline started 14 games.  In ’16, the Tennessee Titans picked him up in FA, and he’s been the starter there the last 2 seasons, playing both LG and RG.  Kline is a grinder in the run game, paving the way for backs Derrick Henry and DeMarco Murray.  He will be due a pretty large payday, Spotrac expects him to be around the $10M range.  Right now, we’re not able to fit that in.

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Luke Joeckel  6’6 306  26YO

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Yes, another fallen star.  Joeckel was drafted #2 overall in the 2013 NFL draft by the Jaguars, 5 spots ahead of one Jonathan Cooper.  If Cooper has had a strange career path, Joeckel’s isn’t too many miles behind.  As a rookie, the green LT played in only 5 games, but in 2014, Joeckel started all 16 games for Jacksonville at LT, and then 14 games in 2015.  In 2016, the LG experiment began, and the career took a detour.  Once a very athletic, slightly underweight dancer at LT, now put in a power position inside at LG, didn’t work.  Joeckel eventually had knee surgery, ending the experiment with JAX.    The jags declined to pick up the 5th year option, and the Seattle Seahawks, desperate for O-line help gave the beleaguered OL another chance.  Joeckel started 11 games for the Seahawks, but is still a work in progress.  It would be hard to say Joeckel is the obvious answer to our woes here, but he would be a relatively low risk, or half measure solution.  Sorry folks, the options out there just aren’t great.

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Justin Pugh  6’5 307   27YO

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Another former 1st RD pick, this FA seems to chock full of them.  Pugh was a very successful player in the NFL, playing both RT and and LG.  Pugh was an immediate starter with the Giants after being drafted at #19 in the 2013 NFL draft, yeah, THAT draft, along with Cooper and Joeckel.   Cooper started all 16 games at RT his rookie season, and was a fan favorite.  He played his next season starting 14 games at RT, missing 2 games.  In 2015, the Giants O-line was decimated, and Pugh filled in everywhere, at RT, LG and LT.  In 2016, the Giants decided to move Pugh permanently to LG, where he started 14 games.  He was considered one of the top OG’s in the game that season.  Pugh battled minor injuries in ’16, playing and starting only 11 games.  In 2017, he started 8 games before going down with back issues, which later ended his season on IR.

While Pugh has been a great player in the league, injuries have shortened the last 2 seasons for him, but he’s a very tough, talented player.  Spotrac expects Pugh’s salary to be around $6.5M, which is not an outrageous, though risky proposition.

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There seems to be only one easy solid answer to our long term issue, but it’s an extremely expensive one with Andrew Norwell.  All the other guys except for Kline are more risky, but might bring better rewards if they pay off.  If Pugh is truly healthy, I’d take him on our team, I’ve seen him play quite a bit for the Giants.  There are some older players that can give us short term help, but I’m tired of going that route.  Some other possibilities are Jack Mewhort, who has been on a downslide for a couple of years, Zach Fulton formerly of the Chiefs, and Kevin Pamphile of the Bucs.  Both Fulton and Pamphile have been regular starters, but I’m not sure if they are upgrades to what we have.  If you have any thoughts, let me hear them . . .

 

 

 

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757 Responses to 2018 Miami Dolphins – Free Agency – OG

  1. mf13ss says:

    ER,

    Whatever the case may be, $40M in dead cap is NOT GOOD! LOL

    • ElephantRider says:

      Yep.
      I’ll let the Professor explain! But that’s my guess is he’s wanting to tank 2018. Blow it up and start again.

      I disagree. Lol

  2. mf13ss says:

    —————
    He’s out!

  3. Tim Knight says:

    We’re not blowing the team up this season if anyone has been following how it’s being put together. This bad season we just had was due to many factors that are not long term.

  4. MF,
    I also created around $70M in cap space THIS year. And it’s nowhere near $40M in dead cap. there will be some dead cap next year from Suh’s post June 1st cut designation but that’s it. Any dead cap from the other players is done this season.

  5. mf13ss says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    February 23, 2018 at 9:10 pm
    Tim is correct. Go bonkers in FA but spend it wisely on players who can help your team. If we were to sign Bradham I may even want to trade Kiko for whatever.
    ————–
    I was of the impression that ya DIDN’T want to go bonkers in FA… that’s how we got in trouble in the first place under Tannenbaum.

  6. mf13ss says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    February 23, 2018 at 9:12 pm
    again, it’s not $50M “sitting in your bank”. It’s $70M
    ———–
    So when does the dead money get applied? Next year?

  7. Tim Knight says:

    We’re not really in trouble with the cap if FA is not how you build a team. I like that most of our team is made up of drafted players, UDFAs, some trade and re-signs and some targeted 3-4 year FAs. Besides Suh, who is the big FA acquisition the last 3 years?

    • mf13ss says:

      After signing Suh and after re-signing Tannehill, there’s NO WAY we could afford another BIG FA acquisition. Keep in mind that we’ve re-signed more of our own like Reshad and Wake. We simply don’t have the cap space for another HUGE FA acquisition.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Not sure why you think I don’t understand all of that when I said so in my post. You don’t want to have to go big in FA every year. That’s what we did for decades and it never worked.

  8. Tim Knight says:

    Lou, now your calling the team shit. The other day you called Tannehill a piece of shit even though a week before that you said go with Tannehill and you wouldn’t draft a QB 1st round, get a player who can help right away. Now you’re blowing the whole thing up so a player that can help right away means nothing. What’s the deal with this flip flopping? Nothing has changed so far in the offseason.

    • because I don’t see anything changing anytime soon as long as we’re in cap hell. Suh’s contract has handcuffed this team and any talk of restructuring is just an idiotic idea. we can’t keep kicking his salary down the road and continuing to let him tie up cap forever.

      I looked at things and became convinced that we’d be parting ways with tannehill, pounce and suh next year anyway so you’re going to build a team with three of your main players not being here the next season so you’re wasting your time. you’re adding players to a team but not taking into account the holes that will be created when those 3 are gone.

      so, get rid of them now instead, get that cap space up there and start adding the pieces that can get you better quickly and then build around that.

  9. okay, here’s the plan to this point. some will depend on who’s released before FA occurs.

    We trade Landry. We should be able to get at least a 2nd for him
    We cut the following: Suh, Wake, Pouncey, Tannehill, Timmons and Thomas and decline the 5th yr option on James. Cutting Suh post June 1st give us $9.1M on the books vs $26.1M so it saves us $17M in cap this yr.

    Cutting Tannehill gives us $4.6M on the books vs $19.8M which saves us $15.2M in cap.

    We already know about Timmons and Thomas. Cutting Pouncey saves us $7M, Wake $8.1M, Thomas $6.6M.

    We sign Nigel Bradham and Jordan Matthews in FA. We trade Parker to the Jags for Smoot.

    We re-sign Hayes in FA.

    With the cap savings we could easily sign a DT like Poe or Logan. Draft Payne in the first. We could probably trade down a bit and still land him.

    The offensive side, especially the line would still be the biggest ?. we would need to sign one guy who is still young enough to give us some play for a while. With Stills and Matthews as the only 2 starters at wr we’d need to have someone step up from among the guys we’ve got and we should also draft another wr.

    At rb, maybe we sign Anderson to team up with Drake.

    TE in FA is going to be tough because there’s really not much out there. But, that was a given no matter what.

    QB is the biggest issue as there’s no one remaining other than Doughty. I’d sign a cheap vet like Fitzpatrick and draft our qb of the future and my guy is Benkert.

    If we get a 2nd for Landry we could get two offensive linemen there. In the 3rd and 4th we could probably pick up two te’s.

    ___________
    I look at it this way. Waiting another year could save us some dead cap but if we’re going to part ways with Tannehill, Pouncey and Suh before next season why bother building a team WITH these guys if they’re only going to be gone next year?

    It’s counterproductive and it’s wasting time. Have some fuggin balls and just do what you need to do to build the team and make it competitive.

  10. mf13ss says:
    February 23, 2018 at 9:14 pm
    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    February 23, 2018 at 9:12 pm
    again, it’s not $50M “sitting in your bank”. It’s $70M
    ———–
    So when does the dead money get applied? Next year?

    MF,
    when you cut a guy you could have dead money and cap savings. for instance, when you cut Suh and designate it a post June 1 cut you have $9.1M in dead money and that’s his cap hit instead of the $26.1M if he was on the team. Savings is $17M in cap. So, you just freed up $17M in cap space. The dead isn’t taken off the $17M lowering it to $8M.

    • mf13ss says:

      OH! Got ya. I didn’t realize that Spotrac built the savings in. I just saw the dead cap numbers on the right and figured they had yet to be applied. Thanks for the clarification.

  11. Defense:

    LDE: Smoot, Hayes
    DT: Poe, Payne, Phillips, Godchaux
    RDE: Branch, Harris

    LB: McMillan, Alonso, Anthony, Bradham, Hewitt, Allen

    CB: Lippett, Howard, McCain, Tankersley

    S: Jones, McDonald

    Offense:

    RB: Drake, Anderson, Williams
    WR: Stills, Matthews, Grant, Ford, draftee (Lazard?)
    TE: Gray, 2 draft picks
    OL: Tunsil
    QB: Fitzpatrick, draft pick

    sign a cheap vet like Fitz at qb. draft a qb.

    this is just an example of what could be done. doesn’t need to be Poe at DT. could be someone different. freeing up that cap space could put us in a much better situation to get some immediate help and stop filling in gaps with has beens.

    maybe we bring James back and structure his contract so the cap hit in yr one is low and his cap hit in subsequent yrs is nowhere near what it would be under the option.

  12. Tim Knight says:

    I wish the Miami Dolphins were the bestest team in all the world………

  13. Tim Knight says:

    In case you didn’t know, I think the Miami Dolphins are groovy. Just saying and all that. LOL

  14. Tim Knight says:

    Let’s all bake a pie and tell scary stories under blankets shall we? LOL

  15. Phindog says:

    🐕🐕🐕🖕🖕🖕and then some.. Lou went off the rails on the crazy train. His plan would allow him to bitch about how bad our team is for another 3 years.😎

  16. ElephantRider says:

    I don’t want to go 0-16 just to have money and picks….

  17. Tim Knight says:

    Bookman, maybe my view of the demeanor of our fanbase didn’t resonate. It’s all good. it cracks me up is all. 😉

  18. Ken says:

    I think Lou got a hold on some of my meds

  19. wyoming85 says:

    Interesting?

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Given the talent in this depth and the costs of tackles in FA
      I would rather have my tackles in place than my interior OL

  20. That roster above only has 31 players on it. Let’s look at it another way:

    LDE: Smoot, Hayes, Fede
    LDT: Poe, Payne
    RDT: Phillips, Godchaux
    RDE: Branch, Harris, Holland

    WLB: Anthony, Hewitt
    MLB: McMIllan, Allen
    SLB: Bradham, Hewitt

    CB: Lippett, Howard, Aikens
    S: McDonald,
    S: Jones,
    CB: Colvin, Tankersley

    QB: Fitzpatrick, Benkert
    RB: Drake, Anderson, Williams, Chunn
    WR: Stills, Jordan Matthews, Grant, Ford, Lazard, Carroo
    TE: Gray, Goedert, Akins
    OT: Tunsil, James,
    OG: Braden Smith, Sitton, Davis
    OC: Ragnow, Larsen

    • you can mock it as much as you want but this shows a plan whereas the phins management has none. we’re in much better cap shape with this team than we’ve been in the past and it’s a build; not plugging in one year stop gaps to get us thru the season

      • Mike E. says:

        I’m not mocking it, I’m impressed you took out the time to do that. I don’t agree with everything, but who cares, you made an effort to do what you think is good for the team. That being said, it’s not fair to say our front office doesn’t have a plan, I’m sure they do, but it probably hinges on a bunch of outcomes and variables that constantly change, so it keeps evolving.

  21. The Flying Pig says:

    I didn’t see this yesterday

    Marcus Peters traded to Rams

    Rams really starting to look good

    • Mike E. says:

      I was listening to NFL radio, supposedly Peters made a statement that he after his contract was up with the Chiefs, he would never play for them again. I think him and Reid butted heads a lot. Reid felt like it was better to get something for him rather than just let him walk next year.

  22. We could possibly try to trade Suh but the only thing we’re going to save in the trade is $3.9M as compared to $17M if we were to cut him and then we’d probably need to give up a pick in the deal in order to get the other team to eat his salary.

    Unlike what we did with Philly when we ate the salary of Maxwell and gave Philly a higher pick in the draft along with it

  23. Yeah, it’s funny but this is the type of stupid shit Tannenabaum has done with this team. You’ve got a guy like Suh, who’s one of the best DT’s in the league, and in order to trade him you’d have to give the other team something in addition to get him off your hands because of his salary and you’d get nothing in return.

  24. naplesfan2010 says:

    Why would I want Fitz @ QB for my team instead of Tanny? Whom are we tanking for?
    Why would I want Smoot instead of Wake? I like cheering for Wake.

    Why do you think the FO has no plan? Last season simply did not go according to plan.

    They have a plan. Now maybe their plan is not the way YOU would plan, but these are experienced professionals. They have a plan.

    Their plan at LB included neither Raekwon’s injury nor the 10-yr steady Timmons’s mental breakdown.
    Their plan at QB did not include Tannehill’s two injuries, and Moore has for years been considered one of the top 5 back-up QBs in the league. OK so not anymore, so now is the time for a new plan.

    • Fitz would bridge the gap until your rookie is ready. You take a hit for the future. He’s steady enough to help win games if you’ve got some talent around him and you’re building the rest of the team now because you’ve got some cap to do it.

      You’ve also got a few additional draft picks because of the moves you made.

      As far as Wake goes, how long are you going to wait to get someone to replace him? You wake up one morning and realize you no longer have him and then you need to go out and get his replacement. Do it now.

      We’re moving on from Tannehill, Pouncey and Suh next year. No doubt in my mind. So, you’re going to build a team that includes three starters that won’t be here next year. Get rid of the them now, clear up your cap and get young talent in now that you can develop for the year and then next year you’re more ready than you would have been otherwise.

      When next year roles around you only need to get a few players to fill in the gaps because we don’t have 12 stop gaps from last year who are no longer with the team

  25. naplesfan2010 says:

    I would like to get Bradham, (or Whitehead) though I’d much prefer to draft Roquon or Tremaine instead.

  26. naplesfan2010 says:

    I think if we nail this draft with one like several of you have posted, we will be just fine next year and then take a look at what else needs to be upgraded.

    This draft class has quality at some spots we need, like interior OL, TE, RB, LB to an extent, and developmental QB. Let’s select those wisely.

  27. naplesfan2010 says:

    OOOPs adding to the above list … pass rusher DE, which we need and this draft can provide.

  28. Rockphin says:

    I have a plan

    My plan is to start drinking heavily and keep drinking heavily until I can forget Lou’s plan

  29. naplesfan2010 says:

    I would not care if we signed only one player in FA, as long as we drafted the other 5 positions well.
    I think drafting CB, S, WR, and DT would be a waste this year, as those positions are crowded on our team already. Even if we lose Landry, we have guys who can fill in well there.

    Maybe a small-school secret or a healed-injury steal or a late bloomer style sleeper in the 6th or 7th would be ok at those other positions.

  30. Tim,
    you asked before why I changed my mind and my answer is because I agree with you that we need to do something with the offense and the offense needs to move the ball better and score more points and, like you said, if they did that the defense would play better.

    So, I agreed with what you said and came up with a plan to do it. You free up around $70M in cap space that allows you to sign some key players instead of just filling in holes with stop gaps. And, like you said, the defense just needs a few guys.

    So, I traded Parker to the Jags for Smoot who is a young guy we can put in the lineup in place of an aging Wake. I drafted Jeff Holland out of Auburn as another DE we could develop.

    I traded Jarvis for a high 2nd that allows us to get one offensive lineman with that pick and come back with ours and get another.

    I re-signed a younger James and got rid of an aging and oft-injured Pouncey who’s tying up cap space and lessened James cap hit significantly below his option price and drafted Ragnow as Pouncey’s replacement and kept Larsen as the backup.

    I drafted Braden Smith as the RG and signed Sitton to fill in at LG.

    I signed Jordan Matthews to a good deal as our slot and drafted Lazard to develop on the outside.

    I signed Aaron Colvin at cb.

    I traded down in the first to get an additional high round pick and drafted Da’Ron Payne and signed Poe to replace Suh and develop Payne behind him.

    And, I signed Fitzpatrick to a lot less money than what we signed Cutler for so we could develop Benkert.

    If we wait until next year and we no longer have Tannehill, Pouncey, Suh and Wake what do we do then? With this plan you’ve got the beginning of building the team.

  31. naplesfan2010 says:

    From what i’ve seen, young draftees are more hungry and energetic than FAs who sign for huge money to leave the team of their dreams that drafted them to come play for a business-deal team and a bunch of cash they are guaranteed no matter how hard they practice.

  32. Mike E. says:

    I’d probably cancel my NFL ticket if I had to watch Fitzpatrick as our QB next season

  33. son of a son of a shula says:

    Art Shamsky also played for the Reds

  34. wyoming85 says:

  35. son of a son of a shula says:

    Minimum bid at auction for Jackie Robinson’s first original major league contract is 15 million. Auction starts Tuesday.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Worth more now than it was to him then, right?

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        Way more

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        So who owns it now? or who is going to benefit from the sale?
        I hope at least that it’s some “needy” natural heirs or a worthy charity and not some greedy agent of the estate.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        I just heard the whole story on the news and I was just interested in the price but I believe I heard much will benefit his foundation and various projects and it didn’t seem to be just a money grab

  36. mf13ss says:

    Circa 1987

  37. son of a son of a shula says:

    Dave Parker?
    Hernandez
    Tyson

  38. mf13ss says:

    Here’s Prof “Uncle Louis”, tinkering with our roster… *POOF*

    • mf13ss says:

      “At least it’s out of it’s misery…”
      😆

    • “It’s an ugly roster anyway”
      “At least it’s out of it’s misery”

      this whole thing is going to implode anyway. We’ve got an oft-injured center who’s body is more like a 50 yr old, an aging DE, an offensive line that’s in a shambles, a DT who’s contract is strangling the life out of the team’s ability to do anything in FA and a qb who is coming off a knee injury who hasn’t played a down in over a year and is most likely done after this season.

      make the changes now instead of waiting. either way we’re going to be forced to do it. Do people think that Wake is going to play forever that they think we shouldn’t let him go? Do people really think they’re going to continue to start Tannehill for another 4 or 5 years? Do people really think Pouncey is going to be able to continue to play this game?

      Why wait? If anyone has a better plan, let’s hear it.

  39. pheloniusphish says:

    As has been said here many times, if any of us had the skill set and talent to be a GM or coach in the NFL we would be working in the NFL.

    • yadda yadda yadda. and the people in Congress are the best and the brightest too, right?

    • think about this. someone within the Phins organization had to okay the picks of Martin and Egnew and the signing of Richie. ppl fuck up in this business ALL the time.

      the Browns wanted to trade for McCarron and forgot to send the paperwork in.

      I think people on here and elsewhere give the people at the top of organizations in the NFL way too much credit. If you can lead you can lead. If you can’t you can’t.

  40. Okay, let’s look at another example. We keep Tannehill, Landry and Suh.
    Then, let’s look at just eliminating the $16M cap hit from Landry’s tag, cutting Timmons and Thomas and declining the 5th yr option on James.

    That would put us roughly at $25M in cap. We re-sign Landry to an extension and let’s say we could limit his 1st yr cap hit to $8M. Leaves. $17M to work with.
    We re-sign James to and extension. We limit his 1st yr cap it to $5M. Down to $12M.

    That’s what we’ve got to work with to sign any FA’s we want and the rookie class.

    If we restructure Suh it only pushes his salary further down the road and makes it impossible to move on from him any time soon. And his cap hit continues to choke us.

    Be realistic about the draft. we may not have a shot at Nelson, Smith or Edmunds. Then, who’s your pick at #11? One pick in the 2nd maybe nets us one good OL. One in the 3rd maybe gets us another or a TE. Two picks in the 4th. Who are you taking there?

    So, how are we better off staying the course here? Where else are you making cuts to get us the cap? Some people have commented that clearing cap is easy. Well?

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Well if you don’t take Nelson, Smith, or Edmunds, is it because they are all gone?
      Then someone has been pushed down to us. We are picking 11th not 29th.
      Only ten men get taken away before we pick. That leaves tons of talent.

  41. The Flying Pig says:

    I say salary cap – schmallery cap

  42. There’s an old saying, the leader isn’t the guy in the jungle who’s out front with the machete cutting thru the bush; the leader is the guy who climbs to the top of the tree and says, “hey, we’re in the wrong jungle”.

    The Dolphins have two guys with machetes.

  43. wyoming85 says:

    The we cut Pouncey draft

    11: R1P11 QB JOSH ALLEN, WYOMING
    42: R2P10 C JAMES DANIELS, IOWA
    73: R3P9 TE HAYDEN HURST, SOUTH CAROLINA
    111: R4P11 RB MARK WALTON, MIAMI
    130: R4P30 WR ANTHONY MILLER, MEMPHIS
    183: R6P9 G WYATT TELLER, VIRGINIA TECH
    223: R7P5 LB DORIAN O’DANIEL, CLEMSON
    229: R7P11 EDGE JUSTIN LAWLER, SMU

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      I love this draft except for I’d rather have Treamine or Roquon in the 1st.
      And then please if you could get me Penny or Bellage or Freeman or Jon Adams at RB.

      Also please could I swap Miller out for his QB? since i’m jonesing for a LB in the first.

      Otherwise that is a perfect draft!!

  44. Ken says:

    If you freed up over $70 million in cap space how come Ryan Fitzpatrick is playing QB?

  45. stangerx says:

    LAPD reports that “”The individual believed to be responsible for the social media post is being detained, however he is not in police custody.” Pretty sure that means J-Mart is in a psych facility. Also has to mean that he was the one that put the shotgun post out rather than some hacker.

  46. wyoming85 says:

  47. stangerx says:

    Ken — glad you are going home on schedule. Every Mom has her own tips, but on getting back on solid food mine went with first Campbell’s chix soup with then a scrambled egg on lightly toasted sandwich. And Moms are never wrong.

  48. naplesfan2010 says:

    I like Lou thinking out of the box, but there is a box for a reason.
    You can’t live outside the box.

    I mean if you are gonna think wild, then let’s draft Lamar Jackson
    and run wildcat 75% of our offense.
    I’d rather do that than play Ryan the F— Fitzpatrick.
    At least it would be exciting.

  49. naplesfan2010 says:

    So happy to hear Ken on here already. Hope the pain eases this weekend Sir.

  50. mf13ss says:

    In an ideal world — knowing that Pouncey is not for long what with his hip condition — you make sure you get either of Billy Price or Frank Ragnow. That way, we already have Pouncey’s replacement in-house immediately serving as a Guard.

    It doesn’t HAVE to be like that, but I feel it would be ideal.

    • mf13ss says:

      My ideal O-Line for this year would be…

      Tunsil- Quenton Nelson- Pouncey- Billy Price OR Frank Ragnow- James (on a friendly deal)

  51. wyoming85 says:

    I hope he’s as fast as his dad!

  52. mf13ss says:

    No matter how it’s sliced, diced, chopped, etc… I really feel we need to come away with Frank Ragnow in this Draft.

    If we go BPA @ R1P11 and TE in the 2nd round, pray that Ragnow is still there for us in the 3rd round.

  53. mf13ss says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    February 24, 2018 at 2:06 pm
    we need to keep our fingers crossed that we could get a 2nd for Landry.
    ———-
    I’d rather obtain an additional 2nd rounder by another means; I want to keep Jarvis!

    • We can get someone to replace Landry’s production and in the right offense his numbers are going down so he becomes less important. So, I really don’t care if he goes. People put too much emphasis on his attitude. I’d rather the guy who goes out there and just quietly does his job and not looking for attention.

  54. The Flying Pig says:

    Do you guys think Ragnow can play OG too?

    If we keep Pouncey (who knows) I want to make sure we are drafting some one we can use early in his career

    • mf13ss says:

      YES!!! He’s played Center for Arkansas, Pig!

    • mf13ss says:

      Sorry… YES!!! Ragnow has played BOTH Center and Guard for Arkansas at a VERY high level, Pig!!!

      • The Flying Pig says:

        There’s a few guys who n this draft we can use that way

        I haven’t watched Ragnow
        But I don’t know that’s he’s the only one

        Do you think he separates himself from guys like Price or Clapp?

  55. The Flying Pig says:

    Fingers crossed we get a 2nd for Landry?!?!?

    What?!?!?

    Are these fingers crossed?
    🖕

  56. mf13ss says:

    Here’s my take on Jarvis Landry…

    He’s an incredible player who is being held back by Gase’s dink-n-dunk Offense when it comes to yards per reception.

  57. mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    February 24, 2018 at 2:17 pm
    …Do you think he separates himself from guys like Price or Clapp?
    ————-
    I think Price is just a cut above Ragnow, and Clapp isn’t nearly as good as Ragnow. JMO

    • mf13ss says:

      That’s not to say that Clapp is bad at all, I just believe that Ragnow is PERFECT for our Offense with his abilities.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Right

      I assume Price is the top

      But I guess the 2nd part is the answer I’m looking for

      I’ve seen more Clapp than anyone bc I watch so most Guice
      I know Clapp can play both
      I don’t know that he will be dominant but I think he will be solid

      • mf13ss says:

        I wouldn’t wait ANY LONGER than Clapp when it comes to addressing our O-Line. Yes, he’s a SOLID player.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I think a Ragnow/Clapp pick is the 2nd OL we add

        But if that means we have to pick OL in the first two rounds, we that kind of drives me crazy

  58. mf13ss says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    February 24, 2018 at 2:31 pm
    yeah, that’s it. lol
    ———
    Why do you think otherwise? Jarvis’ YPR are indicative of dink-n-dunk. Now if ya want to put that on the QBs (note the PLURAL)… perhaps we should get our O-Line fixed.

    • they apparently think that by dumping it off to him he can do something with it after the catch.

      I don’t think it’s a matter of it being a dink and dunk offense, I think Tannehill doesn’t see the field very well and has trouble seeing the open receiver. In addition, and we’ve been down the road before, he has trouble with progressions. Three years in a row we’ve heard that from the Ravens defensive players who shut him down.

      Jarvis is Jarvis. what you see is what you get. there’s a lot of slot wr’s in the league who would be a lot cheaper than Jarvis. that’s why we’re probably going to end up rescinding the tag instead of trading him because nobody is going to give up what we want and then have to sign him to a contract.

      take a look at Trent Taylor on a shitty 49ers offense and he only started 1 gm all season and played only 494 snaps. extrapolate that for a whole year on a team that has a decent offense and what is he going to do?

  59. mf13ss says:

    FUN FACT…

    Our Miami Dolphins have gotten more production in yards per reception from Davone Bess (10.7) than Jarvis Landry (10.1) over the course of their careers.

    And we thought we were dinking-and-dunking with Mr. Pennington/Henne…

  60. mf13ss says:

  61. Ken says:

    Home sweet home

  62. Tim Knight says:

    M13, in 2016 Tannehill had his highest YPA at 7.70 which was 8th in the NFL. Landry had his highest YPCA that year at 12.1, Parker was 13.3 and Stills 17.3.

  63. mf13ss says:
    February 24, 2018 at 2:23 pm
    That’s not to say that Clapp is bad at all

    _____________________
    no, you definitely do not want to get the clap

    • mf13ss says:

      You also don’t want to get a yeast infection in your throat like I did when I was in college.
      I KNOW Mr. Walker remembers me talking about that on the SS blogs!

  64. mf13ss says:

  65. Mike E. says:

    Welcome back home Hulk! Good for you man, now try not to drive your wife crazy!

  66. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    February 24, 2018 at 3:14 pm
    M13, in 2016 Tannehill had his highest YPA at 7.70 which was 8th in the NFL. Landry had his highest YPCA that year at 12.1, Parker was 13.3 and Stills 17.3.
    ————-
    Are you telling me that we had a fairly decent O-Line in ’16? The answer, of course, is YES. We took a HUGE stride backwards in ’17 when it came to our O-Line.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I think it also had to do with not having Tannehill in shotgun all day throwing 40+ times. He only attempted 40 or more twice in 2016 and we lost both games.

      • mf13ss says:

        Correct. Gotta have a sound running game to keep Defenses honest. ORob has continued to say this. GET THE O-LINE FIXED!

      • Tim Knight says:

        I’ve been about a running game and setting up play-action for years. The only thing I disagreed with ORob about is that Drake can be the back and we don’t necessarily need a power back, and that Ajayi is not the only back who can run the ball. LOL

  67. Tim Knight says:

    Glad you’re home, Ken!

  68. wyoming85 says:

  69. son of a son of a shula says:

    Here’s a home improvement hack for ya

    Down here we have blown insulation in the attic. I’m remodeling my master bath and taking out the ceiling so instead of having that crap fall all over me and then have to bag it up I got my leaf blower (electric so no co2 poisoning) and blew it all back over the bedroom. Made it real easy.

  70. Ken says:

    Down here we have blown insulation in the attic

    Must have been rough on the mouth.

    Ah I have not lost my perverse sense of humor yet

  71. ElephantRider says:

    Am I the only one concerned nobody is addressing the real issue with the roster?
    There is no kicker! Come on guys, nobody is bringing that up? Jeez!

  72. Tim Knight says:

    Now that the compensatory picks have been awarded, here is our official draft.
    1. #11
    2. #42
    3. #73
    4a. #107
    4b. #126
    6. #169
    7a. #197
    7b. #203

  73. manitobafinfan says:

    So with all this Trade Landry Smoke, maybe there is a fire starting.. new scenario, who could we trade him to and receive a starter on OL and adequate pick/picks ??

    • manitobafinfan says:

      IE who has the need and and recources to Fill our OL and picks needs

    • Tim Knight says:

      Probably a draft pick or draft picks. Don’t know a lot of teams that want to trade a good OL.

      • manitobafinfan says:

        If we were to lose him i would like the OL to be addressed in the deal .. dallas used to have a plethora of OL men , pretty sure not the case anymore , but ya know what i mean ? I dont like the idea of just picks for an eatablished player of his ability/history Especially with the OL mess we have.. dont want to depend on an OL starting 2 rookies no matter how high of picks they are.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Oh I would love to get an established starter on the OL. Need a team willing to do that is all.

  74. manitobafinfan says:

    How about to Cleveland for Joe Thomas and their 1st RD 2 .. does Thomas still have years in the tank ? Is that enough compensation considering its a trade ? They could use him ?? Just spitballing

    • stangerx says:

      I do like Joe Thomas. Would also make not paying James his $9 mil real easy.

      • manitobafinfan says:

        And i dont mean this as a Lets trade for Thomas,specifically, but if hes being traded , ideally lets get an upgrade to OL and whaterver else we can in return …

  75. stangerx says:

    For all you Northern folks (and Son talking about insulation)……been in my place 8 years and don’t even know if the heating works at this point. Never had a reason to check.

    • manitobafinfan says:

      You suck 🤡.. we have pink batting in walls, pink with Blown in in the roof , and thank god for Natural gas Forced air … i kept it at 63 F but wife was freezing , now set 68 and she still under blanket watching TV. I also have to have the bedroom window open at night even at -25 🤡

  76. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    February 24, 2018 at 5:27 pm
    What? LOL
    ————-
    I guess you had to be there… when one of our own didn’t mind if we picked @ R1P12 after the Bengals when our season was already over.

  77. ElephantRider says:

    I’m at 68° here too….. listen to the moaning and groaning how cold it is…… yet in the summer I’ll come home and they have it at 68° complaining how hot they are!!

  78. Ken says:

    I am alternating between unexplained sweats and chills. Oh wait a minute…

  79. sb7mvp says:

    I went to Black Panther with lowered expectations and it still underwhelmed.

  80. mf13ss says:

    • Ken says:

      Mistake by Jags but okay for us as without a real QB that team will struggle to get to the next level

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      When Blake started running to win games it changed their whole feeling about him.
      Way to go Bortles!

      • Ken says:

        Because he can’t beat anyone by throwing on them

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        Yes he can, he slumped for a little bit but Coughlin and his people will fix him. He’s a good player, clutch player.

      • Ken says:

        This is a big mistake for that franchise. Their entire offense is based around trying to have him not throw the ball. Give this team Cousins and they are a SB contender. Keep Borttles there and last year will be the closest the Jags ever get to a SB

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        Ok, I don’t see how you can be so matter of fact. He’s already thrown for over 30 tds in a season and has been to an AFC championship game. But ok.

  81. ElephantRider says:

    Coughlin was wanting him gone now he signs him up. Interesting….

    Bortles looked like he crumbled against the Cheatriots. Maybe it’ll help him in the long run. Didn’t see this coming….if anything the opposite.

  82. son of a son of a shula says:

    They probably saved some cap space with that deal. I think Bortles was going to play on his 5th year option for big bucks against the cap.

  83. son of a son of a shula says:

    Maybe they’ll trade him for Landry 💡

  84. manitobafinfan says:

    https://goo.gl/images/M9aJzf

    Ken : no hurry work can wait.

  85. mf13ss says:

  86. mf13ss says:

  87. Ken says:

    LOL at Manitoba and Hulk smelling the flowers

  88. wyoming85 says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 11: Nelson, Quenton, OG, Notre Dame (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 10: Andrews, Mark, TE, Oklahoma (A)
    Round 3 Pick 9: Penny, Rashaad, RB, San Diego State (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 11: Gallup, Michael, WR, Colorado State (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 30: Warner, Fred, OLB, Brigham Young (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 9: Benkert, Kurt, QB, Virginia (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 5: Quessenberry, Scott, C, UCLA (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 11: Ostman, Joe, DE/OLB, Central Michigan (A-)

  89. stangerx says:

    Not a huge curling fan, but whoever timed the audio on this to an amazing shot did a great job.

  90. The Flying Pig says:

    Hulk Home

  91. bookman11 says:

    Rockphin says:
    February 24, 2018 at 8:49 am
    I have a plan

    My plan is to start drinking heavily and keep drinking heavily until I can forget Lou’s plan

    This is hilarious 😂

  92. Randy says:

    I liked Black Panther too, but it wasn’t one of my favs. I was mildly disappointed after all the pub it was getting. I liked Thor Ragnarok a lot more, even if it was kinda campy.

    • bookman11 says:

      Good, because I have seen neither and the Thor movie comes out on dvd in a few weeks, looks like I will wait for the same with Black Panther.

  93. son of a son of a shula says:

    What’s come at me bro?

  94. naplesfan2010 says:

    We could trade Landry for Norwell straight up.
    Panthers need a WR and Norwell’s gone anyway. We need a OG and Landry’s gone anyway.
    or send him to play with his bro Beckham for Justin Pugh.

  95. naplesfan2010 says:

    We did something similar with Julius Thomas from the Jags for our OT.

  96. rich0322 says:

    Norwell is going to get a crap load of money once free agency hits.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      More than we have in the budget? Wasn’t he a UDFA? We have to buy a starter in FA. We must stop trying to fix OG on the cheap. Even if we draft 2 OGs, they’d both need to start which means our drafting would need to be perfect.

  97. naplesfan2010 says:

    Zach Fulton and Josh Kline are also out there as quality FA OGs in their mid 20s.
    If we signed one, we would not need to draft 2.
    I’d rather draft 2 TEs or leave a pick for a RB (OLB,DE, QB)

    • rich0322 says:

      That would be the best way of doing it. We can’t expect two rookie OG to start right away. Besides, we may need to draft a RT along with a OG.

  98. naplesfan2010 says:

    So we have to fix two spots in FA because we need 8 guys and only have 5 picks in the 1st 4 rounds. We can finesse one of those in-house or w/ a late rounder for another year.
    We need OG, RB, DE, TE, QB, another TE, another OG, and a LB. Not in that order.

    FS we can get late. Maybe QB can be had in 6th rnd as this yr is deep and we can say we only need a back-up. Or RB or the 2nd TE can be had late. Or whatever.

    If we could get a 2nd for Jarvis then we’d have enough picks to get it done, but still, every one would need to become a starter and that’s a hard thing to do in the crap shoot known as the NFL draft. So FA must work for us somehow.

  99. naplesfan2010 says:

    I know you hate the “one-year rental stop-gap guy,” but the goal is to sign them for 2-4 yrs.

    It is impossible to draft perfectly even though we have 5 picks in the first 4 rounds. If we can hit on 3 of those guys becoming long-term Dolphins, we’d be happy. Then you must fill in with FAs. In the current low-ball rookie contract CBA, all those guys want to sign for big bucks when they get their first chance. (a la Landry, Miller, OV)

    We either have to sign ours or someone else’s.

    • we sign way too many of those stop gap guys. Tannenbaum doesn’t know how to build a team nor does he know how to manage the cap.

      It would be a different story if you’re doing it like NE did with Harrison but we bring these guys in to start. They should be either role players or backups but you shouldn’t have a lot of stop gap guys starting because you have to replace them all over again.

  100. Ken says:

    LOL. Piggy found where I live

  101. Here’s the starting point in cap. If we cut Timmons and Thomas, rescind the tag on Landry or trade him and decline the option on James this is where we would start from. Now, that’s also what we’d have to work with to sign Landry to a long-term deal and to re-sign James if we chose to do so.

    Without making any other moves whether they be cuts or restructures, and I hope to God we don’t restructure anyone, it isn’t going to be much to work with:

    consider that we’ve got some FA’s of our own we need to re-sign like Parkey and others we might want to re-sign like Williams and Michael Thomas. And then we’ve got the rookie class.

  102. naplesfan2010 says:

    A lot of guys talk about just taking BPA every pick every year, and then you get better and batter.
    That does make sense.
    But that gives you the bubble up to the top and fade fast syndrome.
    Both because of the CBA rookie contract factor and because of the fact that your picks get really high the year after each playoff run.

    So Bellicheck doesn’t do it BPA. And he has been able to sustain playoff caliber by getting “his guys” whether in trades or FA or the draft. He has stables of WRs, RBs, and DBs and rotates no-name DTs or LBs or whatever. He keeps stars at TE and OL and of course he has Tom Brady.

    Instead of an uncertain first round draft pick @ 32 last yr, he grabs the WR he wanted and knew could play his system in the NFL.

    Last year he had only 4 picks TOTAL! Some years he has 9 or 10. It’s all about getting the guys who match what you want to do on O and D.

    • he develops players for his team. he plays the guys he has. Belichick doesn’t bring in a guy without knowing how he’s going to use him and without wanting to use him in the offense or the defense.

      that’s a huge difference. we traded to draft Carroo, we’ve got Jakeem Grant with all that speed, Drew Morgan and Gray at TE. If these guys were on his team he’d either be playing them and getting something out of them or they wouldn’t be there because he doesn’t waste roster spots on guys he doesn’t use somehow or have a plan for.

      and that’s what I’ve been saying for years. these coaches pencil in their starters and let the remaining talent on the roster rot away because they’re trying to win to save their jobs and when it does get to next man up they’re not ready because they didn’t do shit to develop their guys.

      why would you bring in guys without a plan as to how you’re going to use them or without ever wanting to use them? why would you have a guy with talent on the roster and look at him like he can’t get the job done?

      if Grant were in NE you damn well better believe they’d find a way to use him and that speed and quickness in the offense. meanwhile, we’re throwing 150 short passes to the slowest wr on the team.

  103. naplesfan2010 says:

    The draft can be over rated on what it can do for a team, short term.
    Cleveland had 3 first round picks last year including #1 over all and still went 0-16.

    • you gotta get there first. you’ve got to build your team and get to where you want to be. you can’t do it if you’re signing a bunch of stop gaps for a year with the idea that they give you the best chance to win a few more games this year.

      fans want the quick fix. it’s all about this year with the fans and they want to win now; not wait. the best thing that could happen to this team would be if a new guy came in and gutted it and started over bringing in HIS guys instead of going with what someone else handed him.

  104. The Flying Pig says:

    new blog up

  105. Rockphin says:

    Today is day 5 without Nicotine. I have lost my mind, but I haven’t list my shit yet. LOL

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