This coming Sunday is not only another inter-conference matchup with the Dolphins facing another NFC North team in the Chicago Bears, it’s also the Fest game. Dolphins fans coming from various parts of Florida, east coast, west coast, Canada, I mean this is epic. I thought it was going to be ugly this past weekend, I will freely admit that, and that was before it was announced that Tannehill was out, and Brock Osweiler was in. As it turned out, that may have been a good thing, because although I don’t believe that Osweiler is our answer at QB for this year and beyond, he undeniably brought a different mentality to the team, and the team responded. How long this will last remains to be seen. I strongly feel that Osweiler should Sunday against the Lions. Over 400 yards passing, 31 points on the scoreboard, 3 TD passes (2 INT’s), and a big win when we really needed it.
It was a crazy game, and there was never a scenario in my mind where we put up 31 points on the Bears, who sported a top 2 defense in every category. They averaged 4.5 sacks per game through the first 5 games. Much credit must be given to Adam Gase for figuring out a way to neutralize that, along with the O-line, and the QB Osweiler. It’s also crazy that I feel our defense played pretty well, all the while allowing 28 points. The turnover battle was even, we threw 2 INT’s and lost a fumble, we snared 1 INT and forced and recovered 2 fumbles.
Gore was tearing it up yesterday, he made his biggest impact so far this season with 15 carries for 101 yards for a heady 6.7 YPC. Amendola settled into the “Landry” role, catching the short passes and trying to make the most of them. Forget “Landry” though, it’s Albert Wilson who electrified this game. He catches some of the same passes that “Landry” used to end with 8 or 9 yards and get brought down, but Wilson takes those for 50 + yards a pop. Wilson and Amendola make “Landry” obsolete, so his name shall no longer be spoken here.
What a great pickup TE Nick O-leary has been. Guy just comes in and plays football. Need me to block, you got it! Need me to catch it, you got it! He’s pushing Gesicki down the chart, but this kid deserves it. Kiko Alonso is playing great this year. Doesn’t mean he still doesn’t have his weaknesses, but the things he can do he has been doing very well. Kiko is probably going to top 130 tackles, he has 3 FF’s, 1 FR, and 2 INT’s. Playmaker! Reshad Jones seem to make a few big plays each game. Even if he’s not actually getting the INT, he’s creating them. Vincent Taylor hustling with a motor like a 440 six-pack! That boy tracked down Trubisky and took him down! Lots of things on defense that give you plenty of hope, and some that don’t. McTyer was exposed yesterday. It’s going to happen. Let’s hope good ole Bobby McCain gets better quick.
Matt Patricia’s Lions are 2-3 in the NFC North, and this has not been a great season so far for QB Matt Stafford. Usually, Stafford is one of the better QB’s statistically, but not this year. The Lions have their own version of thunder and lightning, Kerryon Johnson is the lightning, LeGarrette Blount is the thunder. They basically have a 50/50 split in carries so far, Johnson averaging an impressive 5.7 YPC and Blount 2.5 YAACOD (2.5 yards and a cloud of dust). The Lions have 3 WR’s that are dangerous, Marvin Jones, Kenny Golladay and Golden Tate. Jones is like what Parker should have been here, Golladay is closer to Stills, and Tate is like their Albert Wilson. Their former TE Eric Ebron is now killing it in Indy with Andrew Luck.
As I mentioned earlier, I’d prefer to see Brock Osweiler start. Here’s why. I say this with no disrespect to Ryan Tannehill, but I feel like we need to run our offense very carefully in order for him to succeed, and I didn’t see any of that with Osweiler. Not that he was a gunslinger throwing footballs all over Hard Rock, but it just seemed more free, less tense, and much less careful. It’s just what I saw. Osweiler looked calm, and in control. He wasn’t perfect, he won’t be, but there was a different element I haven’t seen with this offense, something intangible. Tannehill is probably not going to be much better, so it should be easy to just say Ryan isn’t ready, so we’re going with Brock. See what happens. If Brock flops, it’s just as easy to say the following week that Ryan is ready. If Brock plays well, no fan will mind if he remains the QB, we’ve seen what Ryan Tannehill can do, nothing wrong with going an alternative, especially if we’re winning.
I am really looking forward to seeing everyone this week, and I hope the game can match the fun we’re going to have all week.
Oh, BTW, we’re 4-2, tied for 1st place in the AFC East. Who woulda thunk?
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D says:
October 15, 2018 at 12:08 pm
Osweiler is a QB who has had limited success, and very publicized failure. I think part of the reason people are skeptical of him was the fact that he got that really big stupid contract from Houston with only a small body of work as a starter in Denver. His time in Houston wasnt good, and i dont know if it was the team they had (keep in mind, no QB’s did well there until Watson got there) or if it was just him, but he really hasnt had a chance to prove anything since then.
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Just find the pool tables (straight past the front desk on the right) and set up your drink check. Some food will be set up and full menu will be available.
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Great write Mike E, as usghe. But don’t write Gesicki off so quickly…. did you see that hurdle? Least showed why we drafted him. And, even if agree, good luck with this one: “Wilson and Amendola make “Landry” obsolete, so his name shall no longer be spoken here.”
Yeah, knuckleheads will continue to bring him up for whatever silly reasons they conjure up, but he’s more toast than Elvis Patterson
Stanger – Not knocking Gesicki, just giving heaps of credit to O’Leary for jumping the depth chart after just being signed. He must be doing the right thing, and must have learned his job well.
Props to the Pig for posting the Baldy tweets about Tunsil. It sure does seem that Tunsil is FINALLY emerging as the player we drafted him to be.
And obviously, we found out last week what happens when Tunsil goes out… even for a little bit.
Stock up: Laremy Tunsil 🔼📈
That gives him enormous latitude, don’t you think? Who besides them will ever really know when he’s healthy enough to play?
Son,
I wish I could join you guys! It’s our fall break so I’ll be with the kids in San Diego this week. For sure will make it back one of these years.
I’ve never been a big Tannehill guy, but just about any decent QB would have looked great with that protection and effective running game. I don’t know how much RAC yards we had, but it had to be a big number. The big problem with Tannehill is what we are paying for him. Just like Suh, he doesn’t justify the cap hit and we can come very close to duplicating his production for a much lower number. Personally, I would much rather have Tannehill at QB for the rest of this season. I think he gives us a better chance to win as long as the OL play is good and he’s healthy.
Need to be drafting a replacement QB for sure. If Tannehill’s health and play improve all the better.
Hey drg – Your last few lines are exactly why I have no problem with Osweiler starting. We need to identify a backup, and suppose there’s still a chance that Osweiler can be the guy if he can clean some things up. Tannehill is what he is, but Osweiler still has potential to improve himself. Tannehill’s cap hit is prohibitive to keeping him, unless he comes back and really tears it up, which is unlikely.
– Our Phins are now 12-0 during the Adam Gase era when we rush the ball 30 or more times in a game.
– Adam Gase has rushed the ball 30 or more times only 5 times with Ryan Tannehill under Center during Gase’s tenure with our Phins.
Again, we very seldom give the kind of run-support for Tannehill as we did yesterday for Osweiler… the facts back up my claim. The key to victory is running the ball, and only 2 of these 12 instances were more than 1-score games (not blowouts… let that sink in).
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/tgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&year_min=2016&year_max=2018&game_type=R&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&temperature_gtlt=lt&team_id=mia&c1stat=rush_att&c1comp=gte&c1val=30&c5val=1.0&order_by=rush_att
And special shout out to ORob! 😀
Was it me, or did Osweiler seem to get us lined up much faster, and it always seemed like he had more time to set us up and get the play off? That’s how it looked to me
Correct the offense didn’t look like a cluster fuck. We looked like a real NFL offense.
I’ll wager a guess… Osweiler doesn’t have the authority to outright change the play at the LOS (I didn’t watch the game yet, as I had work all day yesterday). Thus, he probably had his play called to him over the headset, and he went to work.
I touched on this last evening, and it makes perfect sense as to what you observed.
Guys, despite the fact that Rob was completely correct in his opinion on using Gore and Drake, can you lighten up on the compliments a little, D&B’s doors are only 48″ wide, and his head won’t fit if you keep this up, and I want him to be able to make it. 🙂
LOL, but I’ve only seen two compliments to him (CavKong and me), compared to the constant barrage of people telling him he’s wrong! 🙂
I’m just fooling, and I think you’re overstating the barrage he incurred. The gist of what he wanted was correct, but the way he often portrayed it wasn’t always up to snuff, but he most certainly had the right concept of Gore as the lead, and Drake as the change of pace, so much props to him on that one. It was pleasure to meet Rob in FLA last year M, I hope one day to meet you as well!
I don’t envy Gase this week, making the decision as to who to start at QB. It won’t matter who starts if we lose… then everybody will be second guessing him, saying he made a HUGE mistake.
Let’s just bloody win so Coach doesn’t have to go through that.
Fest game = win
MAKE IT HAPPEN, GOOD PEEPS!!! 😀
A decision is just that, something you have to make your best judgment on and then let things fall into place. You can say he made the wrong decision but at the end of the day thats hindsight talking. I dont think its any harder to make that decision than any of the ones he has to make on a weekly basis, he just makes it and moves on.
Woohoo I was hoping so. That was a great game can’t wait to see it again. (If we lost I wouldn’t give two shits lol)
Mike E. says:
October 15, 2018 at 12:36 pm
Stanger – Not knocking Gesicki, just giving heaps of credit to O’Leary for jumping the depth chart after just being signed. He must be doing the right thing, and must have learned his job well.
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My thought on this is that Gesicki’s lack of refinement as a blocker is whats hurting him right now because we need extra help on the OL in blocking. O’Leary is a good hybrid guy, capable as a blocker, capable as a receiver and that just is more of what we need. I think Gesicki still gives us a better receiving option, and i have seen at least two plays where he was being tackled before the reception and he still made the catch (also neither had a PI called on it, but i digress)
No one wanted a guy like Gesicki more than me, but took his lack of blocking as a given. More wondering why he is not in the passing game more. Even if at different positions, think he might be losing out on that cause Wilson and Grant have been looking good…. even if that doesn’t give a red zone answer.
Osweiler appeared to change plays, but what I liked more was how he was so decisive…and usually correct….in calling out the protections. Remember, he knows this offense very well, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he has the okay to change plays. Most QBs do.
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That said, I don’t trust the guy. He’s been erratic as hell during his career. I don’t see him having games like that week after week….but you never know. I guess if Tanny can get better in his 7th year, Osweiler can get better too.
Thanks for that, Randy. Again, I have yet to see the game to do anything but wager a guess.
mf13ss says:
October 15, 2018 at 1:18 pm
I’ll wager a guess… Osweiler doesn’t have the authority to outright change the play at the LOS (I didn’t watch the game yet, as I had work all day yesterday). Thus, he probably had his play called to him over the headset, and he went to work.
I touched on this last evening, and it makes perfect sense as to what you observed.
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He audibled a lot and barked out protection changes, etc. He was not hindered and he was fully in command of the offense.
And thanks for that, D. I’d add, though: every QB can call out protection changes and audible the play to a run or pass. But was he outright calling a brand new play like Tannehill does? Again, I don’t know having not seen the game.
son of a son of a shula says:
October 15, 2018 at 1:29 pm
Fest game = win
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Not up to OD’s current run, but we have a nice little streak going. When’s the last time we lost? Must have been like 4 times ago.
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WOAH!
Scapegoating.
They also took a hot hand out to put Winston back in and They got have 5TD’s to 4 ints from Jameis since he has back and are 0-2 they were 3-1 with Fitzpatrick, 11 TD to 5 ints.
Now granted i know Fitz isnt the answer, but i think that was a dumb move.
Again, we very seldom give the kind of run-support for Tannehill as we did yesterday for Osweiler… the facts back up my claim. The key to victory is running the ball, and only 2 of these 12 instances were more than 1-score games (not blowouts… let that sink in).
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I think its because we have too much condifdence in Tannehill as a passer when we shouldnt. If we are passing more with him and not Osweiler then Gase is the problem because he is calling the plays and could just as easily call that same kind of game for Tanny.
Its not like we werent pass heavy too, we passed something like 44 times. 44/31 or 35/22 or 25/18…. 1.42, 1.59 1.39 ….past 3 games these are the ratios of pass to run and they are all right around the same. The big difference are the number of plays…. 72 plays combined vs 57 or 43. What this tells ya is Osweiler got them up on the ball and moved the offense. We had sustained drives that helped our defnse remain fresh in the second half while our offense burned their defense out in the second half. We got more opportunity to run because the offense was managed better.
Good post, D! That’s what I’m trying to figure out: is it on Tanny or is it on Gase? Seems to me that Gase has ZERO problems with the way Tanny has been running the Offense, with full authority to change the play. But yesterday with Osweiler, we ran a VERY efficient Offense.
the three games before that 24/14 41/19 and 28/29…. looking at those number we arent neglecting the run, we just arent getting many freaking plays to run on. 1.71, 2.15 and 0.97. First three games all wins and 2 of the three had our worst pass to run ratio’s.
mf13ss says:
October 15, 2018 at 1:45 pm
And thanks for that, D. I’d add, though: every QB can call out protection changes and audible the play to a run or pass. But was he outright calling a brand new play like Tannehill does? Again, I don’t know having not seen the game.
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You may be right bhe might not have had the complete change option, i heard him Omaha a few times and thats usually a switch from left to right on the call, but its the same play. If thats the case then Gase needs to treat Tanny like Osweiler and not let him completely change the play. Ill be honest, Heard has Tanny pegged, he isnt football smart and you cant let a player who isnt football smart go in and completely change things around, thats reserved for students of the game.
Herd, not Heard….sorry Herd
I don’t know that Tannehill isn’t “football smart”. Actually, I think he’s VERY football smart… and apparently, so does Gase. However, I’m thinking he’s nothing more than a game-managing QB like MR. Pennington before him. And clearly, MR. Pennington was leaps and bounds better than Tanny.
Hello GOOD PEOPLE 😁
Went to the Bears game,
Just wanted to let those that are goin to the Lions destroyed be prepared for the experience of a lifetime WIN or L,
but obviously a walk-off final OT click of the clickS ICING ON THE CAKE!!!
PS
Don’t plan on being able to text via voice afterwards,
WOWWWW, SOOO MUCHHH FUNNNN,
C’MON MIAMI, GIVE THE MOB THE EXPERIENCE THAT I HAD,
GOFINS!!!
GOFINS!!!
“””I am thrashed folks, had sooo much funn at what was probably the best (of many) Dolphin games that I ever attended, started at 8am, walked a marathon, yelled my ass of along with some 70,000 others fans for the games duration, lost my voice, drank many beers, and some rum, partied in the post game parking lot for 2 hours got home at 8pm, watched the recording of the game WOWWWW!!!
Trying to get my head screwed back on,
and hope to gather the energy to share my experience with all of you,
PLEASE GIMME A MINUTE,
I should be able to give you an exciting ride to read about with your Tuesday morning coffee…
WOWWW, (even for one of eternal optimism),
what a different attitude of positivity being at the game brings,
WOWWW, GOFINS!!!
Patrick, write about it, you deserve a W to word-Smith about!!!
I can offer mine up later in the week, cuz it’s not gonna have much room for game info!!!
WOWWWW, The Stadium is SPECTACULAR,
and the Bears fans represented well, GOOD PEOPLE!!!
31 – 28 MIAMI DOLPHINS WINNNNNNN !!!!””””
YEEE HAAAA, WOOO HOOOO, FRICKEN GIGGITTYYYY!!!
Awesome Kenny! Glad you got to see one of our most exciting wins in some time!
KV — was a great game for sure. And yeah those Bear fans were both good people and their in large numbers. When wasn’t looking couldn’t even tell how had the good play when the cheers came. Guessing the Lions won’t travel that strong though.
Yea Stanger, couldn’t hear a single word from the games announcer other than “””and that’s another Miami Dolphins first down”””!!!
Great group of Bears fans amongst my area,
Mutual respect with some fun hearted taunting,
High fives & fist pumps shared among rival fans
whenever one team or the other made a good play,
AWESOME DISPLAY OF HUMAN COMMORODITY!!!
Way to represent as visitors to our house Chicago,
you have my respect section 336 front rows!!!
GOFINS!!!
M – We had 128 yards rushing against the Bengals, so not like we didn’t give Tannehill a balanced offense, we had 161 yesterday, but that also included OT. Not too far off. FTR – Osweiler was definitely in control of the offense, if you get a chance to watch it, look how cool he was, he was calling out a lot of signals, sometimes audibles, and I swear it seemed to me like he had plenty of time to make changes and corrections, getting us to the line quickly in order to do those things. That was part of my perception of something different, and I really liked it!
Bucs need to put their 1st round QB selection fail to bed and move on too. 5ints 2 fumbles in freaking 1.5 games.
Mike E. says:
October 15, 2018 at 2:04 pm
I’m just fooling, and I think you’re overstating the barrage he incurred. The gist of what he wanted was correct, but the way he often portrayed it wasn’t always up to snuff, but he most certainly had the right concept of Gore as the lead, and Drake as the change of pace, so much props to him on that one. It was pleasure to meet Rob in FLA last year M, I hope one day to meet you as well!
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We shall meet one day, Mike E! My schedule is a very difficult thing to work around, and that includes my vacation time. One of these days, Brother! 😀
I hear ya man, but sometimes if you want something to happen, you gotta make it happen, know what I mean? One day my man, it will be GRAND! 😉
I hear ya, pal! ONE DAY, sooner than later! 😀
Mike E. says:
October 15, 2018 at 2:10 pm
M – We had 128 yards rushing against the Bengals, so not like we didn’t give Tannehill a balanced offense…
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Cat, it’s not necessarily about the yardage, it’s about the attempts, so as to keep opposing Defenses guessing as to what we’ll do next. In a week-to-week game, it’s all about the match-ups.
Now I’m not saying that yardage doesn’t count (not at all!), but the idea is to have a balanced Offense, to keep opposing DCs guessing, man. We can’t ever be 1-dimensional. Even DAN THE MAN couldn’t get a ring, being he never had a legit running game to backup the greatest single season a QB has ever had in ’84… and a legit Defense, to boot.
M – 31 rush attempts with OT last week, 22 against Cincy w/o OT. Not that different, in fact 8 attempts were in OT, so almost identical. It’s just perception, because we had more success and of course we won.
I hear ya on this… but now let’s look at our record when we run the ball 20 or more times in a game. PAGING ORob! 🙂
Mike E, I DO think we’re on the same page. So long as we don’t give up on the run, we do rather well. In the event Tannehill gets shut down in the passing game, we’re still in it so long as we can run… and vice-versa.
Man… I’m still HYPED after yesterday’s win!!! I just want to get it all figured out to make a DEEP playoff run this year!!!
GO PHINS!!!
HELL YEAH!!!
https://twitter.com/PFF_Dolphins/status/1051901434021732352
mf13ss says:
October 15, 2018 at 2:19 pm
I hear ya, pal! ONE DAY, sooner than later!
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M13 — no one we more want to come to a Fest more than you, and your ticket it on me. About to have think our 9th one and you’ve been invited to every one of those. You fly in late Friday and go back Monday…. one vacation day my friend. Don’t mean to pressure you but yeah am pressuring you cause want to share a beer and watch a Phins game with you. 🙂
You are another who has been VERY KIND to me, MR. Stanger. You are a GRAND dude, sir! I appreciate your offer, but it’s never been about $$$… it’s strictly about time constriction.
I think I’m on the cusp of making some career changes, and once that happens, I should be good to go.
Uh M, looks like Stanger just did this . . .
LOL, I think MR. Campbell has already tried that one! 😀
M13 — forgot to tell you while you are down hear we will get you to sleep with…. opps…meant try the local fishes.
😆
I hope we stomp them since it’s Fest Week and we need to keep the positive going. I hope everyone has fun times until it’s time to go back home. I’m with Mike that Osweiler isn’t the answer but he may be a short term(2-3 game) answer. That was by far the best our offense has looked this year. I loved that Osweiler wasn’t afraid to just throw the ball away multiple times. I also agree with Porf. Lou that teams just crowd the box because they know Tannehill won’t punish them or has difficulty moving in the box.
I looked up the 2016 season, and Tannehill really is no different. Good sometimes, bad sometimes,and a non-factor sometimes. My expectations have just went up though. Seeing guys like Mahomes, Trubinsky, Darnold, etc play shows me that a new guy can quickly match our 7 year guy’s potential and honestly, overshadow it.
Moving beyond the QB,I really like our defense. Some solid pieces and Tunsil was a stud yesterday.
A statistical anomaly for sure, considering I don’t have any Miami Dolphins on my roster (except Drake, who I sat this week), but every time the Dolphins win, my FF team wins also, and conversely, when the Dolphins lose, so does my FF team. Strange, eh?
Just to be a pain the ass — I know of at least one FF team you have that didn’t win this week. And whoever runs that Fields Forever team started Drake. 🙂
Mike,
I feel like everyone is jumping ship on Tannehill and overreacting a bit too much. When healthy, he’s a top 20 QB. Without good protection he’s going to struggle. He won’t extend many plays and doesn’t evade pressure well. Surround him with talent and he’ll get the job done on a consistent basis.
I don’t feel that way about Brock or any other QB on our roster. It’s time to use a high pick on a QB and let him develop behind Tannehill. Odds are we will end up with someone similar or worse than Tannehill, but that’s the process. Think of all the future franchise QBs that are now struggling or average…. Carr, Mariota, Foles, Winston, Dak, etc… I wasn’t very impressed with Trubisky yesterday, either. There are so few QBs that transcend the level of talent around them. It takes a lot of luck to find one.
drg – I think it’s more than just surrounding Tannehill with talent. If that talent, and I mean just about all of them don’t perform to their fullest, and we need to rely on Tannehill to do something a little extra, it seems like the wheels fall off. Do you really believe he’s capable of winning a 43-40 shootout against the Chiefs? I don’t know If we really know enough about Osweiler to say he’s not the guy, and can’t be the guy, but if he plays like he did this past week, I’m not pulling him until he lays an egg. If Tannehill isn’t the future beyond this year, I don’t see any downside to running with Osweiler until he fails.
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Anybody familiar with this one?!!
My wife and I were big on 80’s new wave music, and they were on of many groups we liked. That was a good song.
I absolutely LOVE this one!
Check out “When Smokey Sings”, and “Be Near Me”
Game 1 0.97 pass to run = W, Game 2, 2.15 pass to run = W. Game 3 1.77 pass to run = W. Game 44 1.39 = L Game 5 1.59 = L game 6 1.42 = W (but almost lost). Our run ratios were actually better in the past 3 where we have stunk in all but the last one, than two of the three W’s we have had. To me that doesnt show a pattern that says that the running game is all of it. Look at this pattern though. 67 plays on offense W, 60 plays on offense W, 38 plays on offense W (though this one we had a bunch of chunk yard plays including that trickery pass from Wilson). 57 plays L, 33 plays L and 73 plays W. When the offense moves the balls and sustains drives we win, when we 3 and out a bunch we lose. I mean thats kind of common knowledge, but thats what these number say more than a certain ratio of runs gets us a win. It looks to me its a certain ratio of runs, means we are controlling the ball, but it also takes a QB to get us those 3rd down conversions.
We had almost 50% 3rd down conversions this game with Osweiler, 8-17, 47%, 23 total first downs. Tanny’s best game, our best game previous to that, was the Jets game and we were 6-13, 46%, with 18 total. We have been hovering around 20-30% conversion all the other games.
We’ve had a good 3rd down conversion rate on 3rd and 6 or less, but when it’s over that it’s not very good.
Yeah, good point on the 3rd downs, Osweiler was pretty good with that, against a very good defense that we totally neutralized.
DRG, its not a jumping ship on Tanny, its been a long drawn out breakup. We have done this song and dance for year after year, Well minus 2017 when he didnt play, but you get tired of making excuses. I get this might be an anomally, but the fact that the very first game a backup plays, against a top 5 defense, with a massive pass rush and there are 0 sacks and only a handful of pressures? This is the same OL that Tanny had for most the Bengals game, this is the same OL he had for all of the NE game, and neither of them are rated higher than the Bears are. Is it jumping ship or is the ship just dead in the water and people wanna move forward?
The best passing game we have had….this last one. The best 3 down conversion ratio…this last one. I dont think those are things you ignore if you want to be unbiased.
Nice write up, Mike. I’ve tried to post this a few times but for some reason it wouldn’t post.
Thanks Tim – Not sure why the tech trouble.
LOL @ “so his name shall no longer be spoken here.”
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Nick O’Leary was a great find. He’s one of the reasons we held the Bears pass rush in check. We did a lot of max protect and went right after them with the run game. What OL was that we saw yesterday? LOL
Yeah, lots of teams struggling to find TE’s, we found a good one, especially with Derby banged up. Unfortunately for Smythe, it will really cut into his playing time now.
I think both of the rook TEs need some development time. TEs have a lot of responsibilities. I’ve heard coaches say many times that it’s not an easy position to play. In time Gesicki and Smythe will be a bigger part of the offense.
Trade deadline should be coming up soon, or has it already passed?
October 30th
October 30th I believe
I’d like for us to go ahead and move on from Parker and get something in return. Guy has been a total waste.
Mike and Tim, the announcers said that Parker should have protected the ball too. They did say the ball should have been thrown differently but they called parker out for just quitting on the play.
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NICK O’LEARY!!!
HELL YEAH!!!
New Age – I would definitely trade Parker, even for a 7th, but I really don’t want to cut him. I want something, anything, but we need to get some return. Otherwise F it, he sits on the bench in case we need him due to an injury.
Nobody is offering that bag of chips. Fins should have listened to me weeks ago….
^ Unfortunately ER, you may be right
Our only luck would be a contender has an injury at WR, and comes calling
Before the game stopped by the bar where QAM is set up for the pre-game show. Saw both Crowder and Omar, even if didn’t step and say hi. Crowder is one friendly guy. Every time they went to commercial he was off the platform and talking to folks, signing hats etc. He’s slimmed down a lot since he played…. would have said he was running like 215- 220. And probably better for his long-term health.
That INT at the end of the first half was under thrown to the inside. Brock should have throw it more towards the corner of the endzone. I don’t put that one on Parker. Sure we could have set up for the FG but I don’t mind trying to go for a big TD there and go into the half up 14-0.
Completely agree. They can say Parker allowed the defender to push him to the boundary, but that’s where he was, and Osweiler has to throw it accordingly. Parker never had a chance to make a play the way I saw it.
Agreed. The announcers said the same thing.
Mike E. says:
October 15, 2018 at 2:59 pm
Check out “When Smokey Sings”, and “Be Near Me”
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BOTH are quality songs. I’ve heard both of these, but never “Look of Love”. How crazy is that?
By the way, I think “ABC’s” lead singer at the time sounds a lot like “Duran Duran”… that is a COMPLIMENT, in my book!
There are so many groups like ABC that we liked, Yaz, Tears for Fears, Depeche Mode, Aha, Human League, New Order, The Cure, The Smiths, Echo and the Bunnymen, OMD, Thompson Twins, and many many more. Not sure if you ever watched American Idol, but Adam Lambert did a version of Tears for Fears “Mad World” that I swear every time I watch it it gives me goosebumps how amazing his voice and range is. Check it out.
Agreed on Adam Lambert’s version. Awesome!
Randy,
I also want to give you a shout out, being you made the observation that our O-Line looked MUCH better with Osweiler under Center.
That can’t be an accident, IMO. Yet, I’m still trying to figure out how much freedom Osweiler had to call his own plays… and I don’t think he had such freedom.
I don’t think it had anything to do with Osweiler. We were knocking the Bears front off the ball in the run game from the get go. We also max protected a lot which is what I thought we’d do as a game plan.
Nothing about this game was conventional. It was wild in so many ways. Remember we were down 21-7 in a blink of an eye in the 3rd quarter. The plays by Wilson were extraordinary.
Mike, D,
One game is way too small of a sample size to jump to that conclusion. It was all love for Tannehill after the first three games. I’m not trying to say Tannehill is a franchise QB. Just saying he’s a decent QB and we have won a lot of games with him starting under Gase. Brock played a good game yesterday, but other than maybe one or two good throws, what did he do incredibly well? Setting up blocking assignments and staying in the pocket? There’s a reason he has moved on from two teams desperate for a QB. He’s not the answer. I doubt Tannehill is either.
If I’m the GM, I explore trade options for Tannehill in the offseason. Maybe we can get lucky and score a 2nd round pick for him. Draft a new QB and sign a placeholder QB for cheap. We could also ride out his contract and develop a guy behind him.
The real story to me is that Gase seems to be capable of winning football games despite average QB play. Cutler was a cancer last year and the team played like it. I love the attitude of this team. They battle and are a tough out at home. Would love to see the offense show the ability to put up 40 points one of these days, but we likely need a new QB to accomplish that.
That’s fair drg, except one thing, and please take this into consideration. The 3 wins were against a lower quality opponent, The NYJ, TEN and OAK who has completely unraveled. Once we faced a quality opponent like NE, it was over. Despite the fact that we were beating Cincy through 3 quarters, once we needs Tannehill, he crawled into a shell and died on us. This doesn’t inspire ANY confidence for me that he can rise up to beat a quality team. If that’s the case, why bother? That’s just how I feel drg, if he ever shows me he can be the man and beat a good team without-every-single-thing-being-perfect-including-the O-line-no drops-no fumbles-and great defense then I’ll say OK, he can be our QB.
Parker didnt even look for the ball. The defender had his head around before he did, made the adjustment…
Had anyone — other than Gase — thought that Jay Cutler was going to save our season last year? The funny thing is that Cutler had essentially put up the same numbers that Tannehill had, the year before.
So you’ve got some guys saying that Cutler was a bum last year, while at the same time thinking that Tanny is our savior. HUH??? SMH!
And now that Osweiler had 1 good game yesterday, some former Tanne-holics are now questioning Tanny… and that extends to Adam Gase.
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Really good player and find in the 6th round. He can run for a big man too.
Tim Knight says:
October 15, 2018 at 3:31 pm
I don’t think it had anything to do with Osweiler. We were knocking the Bears front off the ball in the run game from the get go. We also max protected a lot which is what I thought we’d do as a game plan…
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Well then WHY(?) don’t we do this for Tannehill???
Look, I’m not even trying to be a d!ck here, but WHY??? I’m not even trying to point the finger at Tannehill. I’m not even trying to say that Osweiler is some kind of stud (he’s not). I AM, however, asking questions about Gase’s play-calling.
Did you watch the first 3 games? The pass pro was excellent week one. Then we lost Sitton and it was a little shaky against the Jets at times but not bad. It was solid in the Raiders game. The Pats game was a total team collapse and we all know what happened in the 4th quarter in Cincy. People are making so many assumptions about Tannehill because of the Cincy loss. Everyone seems to forget Tannehill had a 122 passer rating after the first 3 games and then people who aren’t fans of him to begin with pounced on him after that bad 4th quarter. I’m not playing that game though. 😉
Gase is a Tannehill fan and that’s all you really need to know. He believes in him and they will win or lose together. Off one solid performance by the backup QB especially off of two losses it’s a common thing amongst fans that the backup QB is the most popular QB. Happens all the time. LOL
That is true, and everyone loves the backup until he sucks. Maybe we should wait until he sucks?
I hope Brock can be solid when needed like yesterday. That’s what the backup QBs job is. I root for whoever is playing for us. Let’s not forget that after 3 quarters we were down 21-13 so it wasn’t like were lighting it up all day. Like I said earlier the plays by Wilson were extraordinary. If he doesn’t make those “two” plays we lose in regulation.
That is exactly how I feel about this. Exactly
It might be a situation like GB had with Aaron Rodgers last year. He missed a bunch of games and then came back with their playoff hopes still alive. They lost that game and were eliminated so they shut him down for the season. We’ll see.
As fans we should all hope Brock can play well and keep our playoff hopes alive. We should feel the same way when Ryan plays. 🙂
M – Did you check out Adam Lambert’s “Mad World”?
Will do shortly… gotta run for a bit, man.
OH! Just listened to it before I’ve gotta go… NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sam Young gets released and resigned more than anyone I have ever seen. It must be some kind of technicality with contracts. Not sure what’s happening here. LOL
He’s a vet so his money is guaranteed so may as well keep him.
I’ve had my Tannefill
Mike,
I didn’t watch the Cincy game, so hard to say. Wasn’t he injured during the game? And all the teams are pretty much the same these days. We have two wins against 3-3 teams and lost on the road to a couple of division leaders at 4-2. Chicago isn’t some powerhouse team. They’re probably on the same level as Tenn or NYJ and we are a tough team at home. Wouldn’t be surprised to see us beat the patsies at home this year. We sucked at NE this year, but it happens. Nobody wins there and just about every team has a few embarrassing games every year.
After week 3, Tannehill was 10-1 in his last 11 games, right? That’s pretty damn good even if we don’t think he’s the answer. Everything doesn’t need to be perfect for him, but he does require a clean pocket to be good. Most QBs do. Finding one that doesn’t is the real trick.
Again, I’m not arguing that Tannehill is the guy. Never have. Just saying that he’s the best option for us at this point if his shoulder heals up. I also don’t feel like he’s really any worse or better than at least half the starting QBs in this league. It’s just the situation we find ourselves in and there really aren’t many other options.
Good post! I don’t think the Bears are a great team, but their defense had shown to be very good until yesterday. We had a great game plan for pass pro and I was surprised that we could run on them. But if not for those two plays by Wilson, we likely lose. We had a solid drive for the 1st TD and the OT drive that Drake fumbled at the goal line was the best drive we had all day. Other than that, we didn’t do much other than not let the game get out of hand so a few big plays could win it. You couldn’t predict how that game went down, it was wild. I was losing my mind at what I was watching. LOL
Tim – I will always root for Tannehill to succeed, I like the guy, but I just don’t think he can ever be our savior. I think the way the NFL is going these days with high powered offenses, we need to keep up with the Jones’s and find a QB like that.
If we do that would be great. Saviors are not easy to find.
That is extremely true, but the point is, we shouldn’t let having Tannehill preclude us from trying to find him.
Agreed! I would never be against trying to upgrade the team at any position.
We’ve had (6) transactions regarding Sam Young (signings and cuts) since March 10th 2016. We’ve had (6) transactions for Jonathan Woodard since December 5th 2017. That’s crazy!
D says:
October 15, 2018 at 4:14 pm
Mike and Tim, the announcers said that Parker should have protected the ball too. They did say the ball should have been thrown differently but they called parker out for just quitting on the play.
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Oswieller has had his best success in the NFL in Gase’s offense. He went to new offense in Houston that clearly wasn’t good for him. I like how the team responded yesterday to him and how fluid the offense looked. I think we punted on 2 or 3 times compared to 10-15 with Tanne-cantmovetheball-hill.
^ agree
Tim Knight says:
October 15, 2018 at 3:50 pm
I hope Brock can be solid when needed like yesterday. That’s what the backup QBs job is. I root for whoever is playing for us. Let’s not forget that after 3 quarters we were down 21-13 so it wasn’t like were lighting it up all day. Like I said earlier the plays by Wilson were extraordinary. If he doesn’t make those “two” plays we lose in regulation.
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If you are calling Osweiler’s performace solid, what do you call Tanny’s…. Osweiler had a better game against the Bears than Tanny has had all season against inferior opponents. and thats throwing out the two horrible ones he had (his last two).
I already laid out my thoughts on this. I’m not going to keep repeating it over and over and getting into an Osweiler/Tannehill debate. I’m glad we won and the game was so much fun. I’m glad we’re 4-2. Go team!
Tim im not trying to start an Osweiler/Tanny debate, its kinda already going on, but my intent was to see if you feel like Tanny has actually played well enough this season to not consider a QB change or at least to roll with Osweiler until he shows signs of dropping off?
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And Oinks and Farts
And that’s my favorite song
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Don’t know exactly what this is, but it’s sumpin bad about Tannehill. lol
Anybody But Tannehill
That is my guess….
Looks like they have given Sam Young the Feinga
LOL! So true
lol
I’m going to enjoy reading all of Son’s RT17 name changes.
So far having your Tannefill is my favorite. LOL
He makes me insane enough to come up with all kinds of craziness.
Anyone
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Tannehill
son of a son of a shula says:
October 15, 2018 at 4:14 pm
Oswieller has had his best success in the NFL in Gase’s offense.
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In his postgame presser yesterday Brock was asked why he came to Miami. His answer was “had a number of other visits planned but once Gase called told my agent to cancel them cause I wanted to play for him and got right on the plane.” Also stressed he knew this offense well before he stepped foot in So. FLA. Put in a bunch of other “Gase is my man” lines as well.
Maybe kissing up to the HC….. but I at least got the feeling Adam would be his first choice as to who to be stranded with on a deserted island.
It sure looked like he knew the offense, and sure looked comfortable employing it as well
“Maybe being the Dolphins quarterback is Oswieller’s destiny or maybe Tannehill stinks, I think it might be a little bit of both”
Forrest Gump
Just ONE AFC team (KC/5 – 1) has a better record than 4 – 2 Fins
who are tied with 4 others,
GOFINS!!!
“””””” “I’m messed up enough to think that’s what it’s going to be every week.”
Adam Gase
— That was Gase’s answer when he was asked what he would have thought had someone told him before the game against Chicago that the Dolphins would produce 541 total yards against one of the best defenses in the NFL. This should not have been a surprising answer because Gase always has exhibited a lot of confidence in his offense. Nonetheless, the Dolphins’ offensive performance against the Bears clearly was eye-opening.””””
GOFINS!!!
I think what he is saying is thats the plan every week, so its not what he shoots for against one team or what he expects his play calling and offensive performances will look like, thats what he sees while he is drawing it up. Its true, you dont prepare to lose, you dont prepare to have a shit show on offense.
D says:
October 15, 2018 at 4:44 pm
Tim im not trying to start an Osweiler/Tanny debate, its kinda already going on, but my intent was to see if you feel like Tanny has actually played well enough this season to not consider a QB change or at least to roll with Osweiler until he shows signs of dropping off?
Omar = 🤡
The reason I put up that tweet was to show that big throw by Osweiler knowing he was going to get hit.
All good!
13kv that’s cool you were at the game. No wonder we won!
You, OD and Stanger it was in the bag
Switching sides….
Anybody notice this defense coming together? Who thought they’d be leading the league in INTs? Get McCain, Wake and Harris back! Time to turn the corner eliminate the miscommunications and dominate
I love our defense. They’re tough and play fast.
I have definitely noticed! How about Kiko man? Guy is just plain ole balling this year. Reshad is always around the ball making plays. Not sure about Harris though man, not sure if that light has gone on for him yet. I think I expected more from him.
Woodard has really stepped up. He’s fun to watch.
Need Harris as depth. That’s all he is at this point. You hear nothing but how hard he works so maybe the results will start to come…eventually
Woodard is in concussion protocol. He didnt look too smurfy sitting there on the field trying to shake the unicorns out of his head. I thought he was going to puke at one point which means thats a significant one.
ER, he is putting pressure when he is out there. The stats arent really showing it but he is making a difference while he is out there.
I not impressed by Wake or Harris this year. I think Father Time has caught up to Wake and Harris just hasn’t produced.
Speaking of Woodard….tough break on that hit to the head. Hope he’s gonna be good to go
That’s right I forgot about that.
I think it was significant, but i dont know if its going to linger. Linger kind of is determined by how many they have had It seems
Harris is contributing as a rotational player, his number are decent as is, but he has been making a difference while out there. you cant really just look at tackles and sacks and get a good picture of what a DE has been doing. I mean his stats are comparable to the top guys in that group, and hopefully the sacks will start coming in.
It sounds like you’re satisfied with him. I was hoping as a 1st RD pick he’d be more than just a 2nd string rotation guy. Compare him to Takk McKinley, or Haason Reddick who’s really starting to come on, or Derek Barnett, and he’s lagging behind that group
Not only that, I can’t see how it’s not disappointing he can’t start when guys from the PS come up and start ahead of him. Maybe we’re looking at him from 2 different perspectives.
I have decided it’s time for me to jump on the Tanny bandwagon! Better late than never, they say. 🙂
Sorry Randy. This bus is full….
Randy, Randy quite contrary lol
D, it doesn’t matter whether I think you go back to Tannehill or keep going with Osweiler until he plays poorly. That’s Gase’s call and I will root for the team and any player that is playing in the game. I was saying atta boy Brock often yesterday. I’m glad he played well. Most fans here thought he sucks and didn’t even want him here. Gase believes in him as well and that’s why he’s been #2 all season. However I do find it funny when a backup plays a good game and so many people think he’s the one off one game. It happened with Matt Moore too than he’d play poorly and everyone would jump ship. LOL
Tannehill has shown to be an efficient QB you can win with. He can also make plays with his legs. He’s not great, he can be efficient and have some very good games. We all know who he is, he can play very well for a stretch, then some meh games, then have a couple of bad games and/or moments. I thought Osweiler played well yesterday but nothing special. A lot of our playmakers made some great plays. It was a crazy game and an unexpected one especially against that Bears defense. But that just goes to show you how crazy this league is. There is inconsistency with so many teams and so many bizarre games. There are only a couple of teams that look really good this year. The Rams being the best and then KC but they don’t have a good defense. Everyone else is very up and down. Even the Saints at 4-1 have looked ordinary in some of their wins.
Let’s hope whoever starts at QB we keep winning enough games to make the playoffs.
For me it’s team first. I just want to win. I’m happy we’re 4-2 and now let’s hope we go 5-2 and the fest bunch have a fun day. 🙂
Did you guys notice a couple of our DBs didn’t see who were communicating and had their backs turned when CHI snapped the ball? That kind of stuff needs to get cleaned up. It can be dangerous too.
I noticed one particular play where Raekwon McMillan was talking to guys back there and his head was completely towards the secondary and the ball was snapped, so yeah.
Oh maybe it was him and a DB. I was like guys, get it together. It was a run up the middle on short yardage and they converted.
Yep, that was it. It looked pretty crazy actually.
Whoa Paul Allen Seahawks owner dies at age 65.
Was he sick?
Wilson has been involved in 5 of them, 4 scored and 1 pass to Grant. We’re seeing why we signed him in FA. Big plays!
He’s the Anti-what’s his name? lol
LOL
I had to wait a day for the euphoria of winning to wear off before commenting on the burgeoning QB controversy. It’s without a doubt too soon to be making definitive decisions on which one is better or who should play next week or the week after. I will say this, that was the smoothest and most effective that I’ve seen the offense run. Whether that was from the play calling, QB talent differences, or it all finally clicked, I don’t know. I think RT is more accurate and throws a better deep ball, while Osweiler has better pocket and field awareness. Osweiler is more willing to sling it, RT is more cautious. Both are prone to bonehead throws on occasion. Both understand the offense. With a sample size of one game, on is probably as good as the other, but a one game sample is too small. All of that blathered, I think you ride the hot hand.
M – ORob didn’t face a barrage because he wanted to run the ball. No one disagreed that running the ball was key. ORob got his balls busted because of his fantastical statistical method of determining Which RB was better as a starter. I even took back everything about I said about his choice of Gore a couple of days ago after the the Gase interview about why Gore was getting more carries. ORob’s stats are fantastical, but he was right about who should be starting. Sometimes you say shit just to get validation for posting.
You’re too smart to not have gotten that right. Good call.
Keep talking.
The running game is what surprised me against the Bears defense. We max protected a lot of the time in the passing game. But as I pointed out earlier, as awesome as the finish ended up being, we only had 13 points into the 4th quarter until Wilson put on a show. So I do think some are exaggerating how the offense looked all day. The best drive was our first TD and the OT drive where Drake fumbled on the goal line. Other than that we still sputtered a bit.
Two drives that ended in FG’s in the 3rd qtr were key in us being able to stay in the game. We almost never kick FG’s it was actually quite refreshing to see.
We talked about that at 21-10 just gets points here even a FG which we did to keep it a one possession game. Then we said now let’s get a TO and we did. We were in danger of this game getting out of hand quite a few times. But guys kept making plays. I like our defense too but we still have some stuff to clean up there as well. But they have been very opportunistic with getting turnovers. We had 15 turnovers last year. We already have 14 this year.
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I was a fan of the signing from the get go. He was a 4th option in the KC offense but he was a playmaker. Great signing for us. He’s been better already than I thought he would be though. He’s a super weapon and we’re figuring out to utilize him. We have so much speed on offense. I can’t wait until it all really starts to come together.
Tell Brett I mentioned all of this in my article this morning, and he’s a little late. 😉
He knows. Where do you think he plagiarized it from lol
LOL
Tim – While I agree with you the offense wasn’t great all day, wouldn’t you rather get it going in the 3rd and 4th quarter for the win, rather than play a good first half like we did against Cincy, and then unravel in the 4th with the game on the line?
Of course. This was just like the Raiders game though with the Wilson special. 🙂
Sanders kicked 3 FG’s yesterday after having kicked only 3 for the first five games of the season.
2 @ Tenn
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0@raiders
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3 yesterday
Makes a big difference, those are points not punts.
so is Hard Rock Stadium about 15 miles or 30 minutes from the hotel?
Yes, it’s a pretty quick drive
30 minutes max.
Naples — what hotel are you staying in? If one of the ones on Hollywood Beach it ain’t all that far and traffic is pretty light getting in. Way out from the stadium is when gets backed up.
He’s near us. We’ll be sure to get him on the shuttle.
Yeah when I went in 2015 getting out really sucked and the fact they closed off so many local streets made it worse. It took us about 30 minutes to get there from Hollywood. It took us well over an hour to get home. It probably took 40 minutes just to exit the stadium.
Up by one!
Go Bookman!
Good pitching match up
Good pitching match up
We post game tailgate too so the after game traffic isn’t bad either
Yeah — we can beg Chef Warren to break out some of the leftovers. Checked out E-23 yesterday. Looked pretty good in terms of not packed to the gills. Still gotta be there by the 10 AM shut off to set up though.
No problem
That’s what I wanted to do, but my B-I-L is always ready to leave. LOL
Sit back for an hour and it’s so much easier.
Phindog, do you know Tennessee Whiskey?
You’re as smooth as Tennessee Whiskey
You’re as swe eee eat as Strawberry wine
You’re as warm as a glass of brandy
Honey I stay stoned on your love all the time
Fun song
The was some throw by the 9ers QB.
It looked like Paul O’Neil throwing a guy out at the plate.
Hope everyone realizes that Wilson is making the case for Gase to continue calling those screens over and over…..
And who better to make that case than one Albert Wilson? Except for maybe Mr J. Grant.
I was thinking the same thing. I was literally saying to myself how much I hate those bubble screens just before Wilson broke the first one
Oswieller had a lot of success throwing to O’Leary. O’Leary played it perfect too and didn’t get out too soon to allow a free rusher but he got out quick enough so he became a target. All of the throws to O’Leary were on target and allowed him to turn upfield to gain yards.
I like having Golden Bear blood on the team. I remember saying I wanted us to draft him.
He looks like a very good pick up. Solid all around and obviously smart.
Osweiler has the presence of mind to throw the ball away when the situation deteriorates. Hennehill feels pressure and either backpedals into a strip sack or freezes in terror as a DL caves his chest in. No way we win that game with Hennehill. Nothing to lose by riding Os for now. He’s clearly the best of our poor options. Maybe someday this team will seriously address the QB position.
Look at you, out after a win.
A glorious win. And you know why!
many of us have been clamoring for a run game. I’ve been wanting a powerback type like Gore for along time.
The run game is vital to our success, every Dolphin fan knows how we went undefeated. The formula still works today, but obviously new rules have opened up the passing game much more
Run the ball, control the clock works in any era, then take shots down the field.
Bend but don’t break physical defense that creates turnovers is the perfect compliment for a ball control, yet with big chunk passing yards mixed in offense that is efficient and high scoring.