So much drama surrounding the Dolphins Head Coach search, and also the with the philosophy of a rebuild here in Miami. First things first. Chris Grier, not Steve Ross will be choosing the new Head Coach. Grier is complete charge of football operations, and he’s the guy making the decisions. If you think Steve Ross will be meddling with the decision, that’s on you.
Is a rebuild such a bad thing? What really is a rebuild? I’d say there are probably a lot of different ways to rebuild something. If you replace the short block of an engine, that’s considered a rebuild, but the whole unit wasn’t rebuilt. I think for the Dolphins, what we’re going to do is not make the same mistakes we’ve made in the past few years. Flash back to 2015, when we signed Ndamukong Suh for a 6 YR $114M contract. Great player at a premium position, but we weren’t one player away, and honestly, Suh never flourished here. No more huge contracts for 1 player.
It’s more than just Suh though, it’s going for the quick fix. In 2017 when we lost Ryan Tannehill, we should have soldiered on with what we had, rather than pay Jay Cutler $10M. I wanted the quick fix, but it was selfish, and foolish, and it was a poor use of cap money. That’s what needs to change here. Getting rid of Mike Pouncey was a start in the right direction, and in the off season, the purge should continue. Robert Quinn ($12.9M), Andre Branch ($7M), Devante Parker ($9.4M) should all be purged. Cam Wake, who we all love shouldn’t even be considered for a re-sign. Let him go win a championship somewhere else.
Besides just outright cutting players, I think we should trade a couple of players. The most obvious one is Ryan Tannehill, and his market is completely undetermined. Not sure if we can recoup any more than a late round pick, like a 5th or later, but all it takes is one team that really wants him, and we can possibly do better. I know a couple of you here are tired of this one, but you guys aren’t focusing long term, you’re still fantasizing about success next season. I’d trade Reshad Jones for what I believe could be a 3rd RD pick to a team who needs that veteran presence and maybe is a player or 2 away from what they believe is a championship. It’s a minor cap savings, but we have 3 safeties in T.J. McDonald, Minkah Fitzpatrick and Reshad Jones, and T.J. won’t bring back the bounty of a 3rd RD pick. When you have numerous holes during a rebuild, you don’t keep a glut of talent at one position, it doesn’t make sense.
We’re trying to become a team that not only has a younger roster, but one that will have lots of cap space for flexibility. No more big FA contracts, and certainly no high priced FA contracts to older players. Quinn was a trade, but that 4th RD pick we gave to the Rams, plus the salary we had to pay Quinn was a loss for us. Maybe that’s part of the reason MTP is now banished from the kingdom.
As for the Head Coach, I don’t have a horse in this race. I like certain things about each of the candidates, but I don’t feel like any of them are the a clear cut choice. It’s probably silly to not want Brian Flores from the Patriots, but former Patriots coaches that left NE and became HC’s have had dreadful results. Romeo Crennel (28-55), Josh McDaniels (11-17), Matt Patricia (6-10), and Eric Mangini (33-47). Of course none of this means Brian Flores won’t succeed, but whatever qualifications any of those coaches had, the success of the New England Patriots is on the shoulders of Bill Belichick.
I love Darren Rizzi’s passion, fire, and respect the fact that his unit has been consistently very good. I don’t have a clue as to what his offensive and defensive philosophies are. They might be good ones, but we don’t know. Kris Richard was the defensive backs coach and then coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks for the “Legion of Boom” era. You have to love that. We don’t know what his plan is on offense, and we don’t know how he is at game planning and handling the entire roster. I feel that whatever HC we hire, it would be great if we could get some continuity going, but that requires patience. Would Ross accept 3 losing seasons and continue on for the sake of continuity?
Last night driving home, I was listening to Bill Polian, and unfortunately, just caught the tail end of the discussion, but what I did hear was Polian saying that teams like Dolphins, Bucs, Cardinals are in a pattern of failure, and are setting themselves up for such every time they make a coaching change. He’s right. We all hunger for it, yet each time we do it, it sets the team back a couple of years. The best teams like the Patriots, Steelers, Packers, Ravens have had the same Head Coach for 5 or more years, which keeps the same system in place, and allows a team to continue to build the roster with a particular style, rather than flushing players every few years that don’t match the new regimes style. Polian said what the Dolphins, Bucs are doing is a “Self fulfilling prophecy”. He’s right.
If we’re going to pick a Head Coach, I think we as fans have to try and be patient, but more importantly, Steve Ross does. He has to block out what the media wants, what the fans want, and just let the HC build something. In retrospect, I think we may have cut Gase too soon, although I didn’t like him, and hated the way he got along with players, maybe he deserved more time. Too late now, but hopefully this time, we don’t make that same mistake.
Finsmob Unleashed 
No more jerseys for me. Ever. Free agency has ruined modern day collectibles.
Woo Hoo!!!! Page turn!!!
Looking at the pole it appears most on here have the same opinion of Flores as I do. He only has one vote. Looks like Richard or Rizzi is the favorite on here (other than the folks who picked an as raping hampster, smh.
** Poll
Damn I phone change everything else when using speech recognition why does it ignore obvious things!?
Because you talk funny?
It’s Polk salad Annie, Tony Joe White
gators got your granny!
The song, yes. The actual weed and salad no.
Sallet not salad.
I can just picture Rock in his office yelling into his iPhone “ass raping hamster” while his boss walks by
RIP Tony Joe White. He died within the last 6 months.
Wake might have been the only safe jersey but that’s up in the air now.
Tru dat. And that’s why I am buying no more jerseys.
I think Wake is more than up in the air. I don’t think we bring him back. He deserves a ring, I hope he finds a team that’s close that wants him. We need to get young at DE, players don’t get better by watching Wake play.
Dowell loggains in interviewing today
Why?
With us?
Just to piss off Gase
Yes with us
Today
After Rizzi.
Maybe just to piss off crazy eyes
Cameron Wolfe, ESPN Staff Writer
The Dolphins are interviewing ST coordinator Darren Rizzi for their head coach gig this morning, per league source.
I don’t think Loggains was the problem with the offense. I don’t think he designed or called any plays. Still don’t want him. Not sure I want Rizzi. If you’re going to blow it up, blow it up. But I can live with Rizzi since he had the only successful unit on the team.
He wasn’t the problem – Gase was
But this is an interview
What did he do for the offense
what did he ever do to earn a HC interview
nothing
You and I weren’t the problem with the offense either
should we get interviews? lol
I agree about Rizzi
I don’t believe in guilt by association and he’s been successful at what he does
but Loggains….Does he fetch coffee well or something?
Maybe we’re trying to glean info from Loggains before he sets out to reunite with Gase in Nueva York. Find out his offensive philosophies and tendencies, although I imagine he will be somewhat guarded.
en Amsterdam nueva…..
Rockphin says:
January 11, 2019 at 9:25 am
Looking at the pole it appears most on here have the same opinion of Flores as I do. He only has one vote. Looks like Richard or Rizzi is the favorite on here (other than the folks who picked an as raping hampster, smh.
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do a lot of looking at the pole?
Adam Gase at the podium answering reporter questions…..
D – I was thinking more like this
When Loggains gets pissed at a player he’ll look right in their chest and give them his wrath.
Low-gains
We’ve already interviewed: Brian Flores (Patriots), Kris Richard (Cowboys), Dennis Allen (Saints) and Eric Bieniemy (Chiefs), all of whom have games this weekend. Guess that gives you time to give Loggains an interview as well.
at the end of the day its, there’s no harm to it
but it does send the wrong message
It makes the FO look incompetent to even explore some one who should not be interviewed.
The other names you mentioned are serious candidates
if they interview some one without any intent to hire them, they should just interview everyone
its not an open race for everyone
people earn the chance
And if they think Loggains has earned that chance – then they have real problems
He hasn’t been near an offense that excelled
and he didn’t even call the plays
I don’t even know what he does except collect a check
I want to have faith in Ross and this FO
and interviewing bad candidates makes that harder
If our offense was trash last season, which it was,
the OC who did less than most OCs do was probably trash too
Of course I’m just guessing bc I don’t know what he actually did for this team
by all appearances – its nothing
Kingsbury got hired as a HC. There is no such thing as “earning it” anymore.
You can make that argument for experience with him
but not for success
kingsbury had success at Texas Tech
I’m guessing the basis of why teams liked him is the attraction to the wide open offense
On the other hand: what can you say about Loggains that is positive about what he has done with his experience?
Piggy,
Kingsbury had an overall record of 35-40 at TT with only 2 of his 6 seasons being winning seasons. I’m not sure that counts as success. But, I was just making a general point. Guys can get hired in the NFL now without truly earning it. It used to be that you had to at least put your time in as a coordinator but not anymore. I’m not really sure what they base hirings on anymore. I have no clue whether or not Loggains actually deserves an interview because I don’t know what that takes anymore.
Okay
I get what you mean
It does kind of feel like drawing names from a hat
A few teams interviewed guys who were on their staffs but only one got hired I believe, that was Freddie Kitchens in CLE.
Yeah – but Rizzi is our legitimate interview from our staff
Loggains kind of appears to be just giving him an interview to say they gave him an interview
It may help him down the road, to go through the process.
Putin guys in the wrong spot
Whatever room those guys are in right now
some on farted
Both watching Tannehill
Getting an interview for a HC job is extremely valuable experience. Next time he does it, it won’t be nearly as daunting, he’ll know what to expect.
That’s what I was saying. Going through the process helps him down the road.
Yup
Piggy, it sounds like Zac Taylor will become the Bengals HC. His resume doesn’t scream HC candidate either. Like Randy was saying, what is the criteria anymore?
I guess
but its important to Oink this: Fuck Dowell Loggains
I think the fact that 8 teams needed coaches at the same time, that really thinned the herd.
To the best of my recollection – its like that every year
How many new coaches were there last year?
Rock – I’m a little less than halfway thru King of Ashes, I’m starting to really like it. It’s definitely similar to all of his other books, but that’s OK with me.
Tim – I wanted to mention something to you, but you weren’t around at the time. I think it was Mando who wrote an article how while other teams are looking for one thing, the Dolphins are looking for another. It completely reminded me of an article about the Mets, basically saying the same about them. The Mets are really in it for the short term, and I think they can be a competitive team, but I do think they are mortgaging the future to get there.. Still, even with all the moves, the NL East is probably going to have both Harper and Machado, and it’s possible Philly gets both.
What are other teams looking for that the Dolphins aren’t?
The Mets are kind of stuck with a win now mentality because of their pitching.
The Phillies can afford both Harper and Machado? Won’t that be like $700M or more?
Supposedly the Phillies have tons of money available. It’s really only , HA, only $60-70M per season for the 2 of them.
But for 7-10 years.
Tim – This is the Dolphins article, not sure if I can find the Mets article, I’ll try . . .
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article224115095.html
Yeah I read this. We’ve been down the offensive road in recent years and that hasn’t worked either. I don’t think it matters. A defensive coach can hire a creative offensive mind. This time around we need a HC that coaches the entire team, not mainly focusing on one side of the ball.
I agree 100% It would be nice to be really good on either side of the ball, then you improve the other.
That’s one of the reasons I like Rizzi. I think he would be engaged in all three phases during games. He seems to be in the moment with clock management, down and distance, field position, debating penalties etc. Gase relied on him for some of that.
Tim – The Mets article was basically how all other teams are putting a premium on their farm systems, and the Mets are selling it out, going for the short term gain. It’s just funny how both teams are being knocked for doing things differently, although the Dolphins can hire Eric Bieniemy, and shoot that article to shit,. lol
I’ve heard it in a few different places, that the Phillies might end up landing both, or Harper goes back to the Nats, and Machado to Phillies
Yankees seem to be out of it?
Supposedly, yes. Who knows though?
An the next head coach of the Miami Dolphins will be……
Mike E. says:
January 11, 2019 at 2:19 pm
Rock – I’m a little …. It’s definitely similar to all of his other books, but that’s OK with me.”
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That is actually a positive thing for me as I liked most all of his other books. I was just hesitant because I noticed it was in a different “world” than Midkemia and sometimes authors will try too hard to come up with something totally different that they will miss the mark of what was good about their precious books.
Good to hear!
I’m 170 pages in, and all of a sudden, it’s really clicking now, all the characters are developing nicely, and I’m really into it.
New Head Coaches 2017
Mike Vrabel, Tennessee. …
Pat Shurmur, New York Giants. …
Matt Patricia, Detroit. …
Steve Wilks, Arizona. …
Jon Gruden, Oakland. …
Matt Nagy, Chicago. …
Frank Reich, Indianapolis.
Yeah, that’s only SEVEN! EIGHT is absurd!
Really, it’s 15 coaches in 2 years, that seems like a lot.
A lot of short-term HCs in recent years.
teams are less and less patient
and frankly I don’t blame them. 3 years is enough to be on track to something
i just found out that i have an interview with the dolphins
CAN’T WAIT!
I guess that means we’re signing Frank Gore again
1st down running game coordinator?
LOL! Good one Tim
3rd and short actually
Rob, is your last name Spinagain? Because I am sure that is what the wheel of failure came up on!
I don’t think head coaches do a whole lot of actual coaching. They have a whole lot of other stuff occupying their time in that position. That’s why you want a HC who can actually hire good coaches under him.
I was the “Chief Estimator” for a company and I did ZERO estimating….go figure.
Most of what I did was personnel management and customer relations at that level.
They oversee the vibe of the entire team. Are they practicing well, cutting down on mistakes, managing the roster, dealing with injuries, game planning and then obviously game situations.
Mike E. says:
January 11, 2019 at 3:19 pm
Really, it’s 15 coaches in 2 years, that seems like a lot.
I just checked and there were 7 in 2016 as well
there were 6 in 2015
There were 6 in 2014
The coaching hires have been about as mixed bag as any other aspect of getting new parts for your team. Some fails, some successes, really no discernible pattern of success or failure, so maybe thats what we should take from that data, just sit back and hope for the best.
I could see OCRob, patting Gore on the butt as he sends him in on first down and says “alright, go out there and get me 9.5 yards, son!” ……..and whispers “Because 10 or more wont count……” as he runs off.
As Gore approaches the 1st down marker you can hear ORob yell go down!!! LOL
LOL
No problem letting Grier interview anybody he wants. No rush really. Let him get it right.
LOL @ D
Vance Joseph gonna be the Cardinals new DC. Not sure if we actually have a coaching tree, but man people who have worked in Davie are all over the league. Maybe if you turn over coaching staffs enough then what happens.
Well this craps on my post below
LOL
Let the bitching begin. LOL
Of the guys we interviewed that are still in the playoffs I don’t think any go against each other. So if all 4 teams were to lose then we’d know who the first choice is, if only one loses and doesn’t get hired then you gotta figure they want someone else. If two lose we can narrow it down, three and so forth.
If they all win we wait and Crash Jenson will get an interview.
They all lose and we don’t hire one then it’s Harbaugh.
I’m not going to bitch about Flores, I hope he does great. I liked the vibe I got from Richard but it seems Flores is a similar personality type. Good I want NE to lose anyway, go Rivers!
Yeah me neither. None of us know much about him anyway. We have no idea how he’ll do.
Grier is probably more familiar with him, not sure if there were together when Grier was in NE, but if so maybe that helped him, since Grier would already know what kind of person he was.
They were never together. But Grier does have connections to NE but that was many years ago. Everything I’ve read or seen was that Flores impressed them and specifically from an Xs and Os standpoint which Ian Rapoport points out in the video below.
As far as assistant coaches Hue jackson could be an OC candidate.
Maybe Richard as DC
My guess is if Richard stays a DC he will just get flipped to DC by Dallas, i doubt he switches teams
Rod Marinelli is the DC in Dallas.
But Marinelli is 69 years old. Not sure if he’s thinking of retiring or not. But if does then yeah I could see Richard being promoted.
Richard did the play calling for the last part of the year. I think they want to promote him.
I heard Wilks name as a possible DC, but i think that was attached to and if Bieniemy was HC
an ” if Bieniemy was HC”
Wilks is interviewing for the Browns DC job as well.
I read an article a month ago and meant to post link but couldn’t seem to do it using my phone. Then, I could never find the article again. Anyway, it talked about how most new DC’s don’t have a specific scheme (3-4/4-3) they prefer or run. They said most DC’s who run a specific scheme are those who have been around a real long time (see Ryan brothers, Wade Phillips, etc.). It went on to talk about how nickel is the new base defense for many DC’s in todays NFL. They also said some teams switch back an forth btwn 3-4 and 4-3 looks during the same game based on many factors like down and distance, running down vs passing down, score, time left, etc. Said roster was not factor. Wish I could find it but it made a whole lot of sense.
This is the new way. Multiple formations, lots of nickel and dime. The Pats played nickel over 90% of the time this year – meaning they had a 5th DB on the field most of the time. The Chargers use a lot of 6 and 7 DB formations.
That would work well with our secondary personnel – Howard, McCain, Minkah, Jones and McDonald.
They dont really switch scemes they just mix concepts and move LB’s around. Its still technically a 4-3 but sometimes they will shift the DT to a 1 tech and move the other dt out to 5 tech and then stand the DE up. Thats not a 3-4 now, its still a 4-3 just the players are moved around to simulate the 3-4 and get some of the benefits of the 3-4 out of it like the better pass rush angels. I mean wide 9 is essentially that system, i mean the DE does have a hand on the ground but out there on the outside shoulder of a TE thats really a 3-4 OLB at that point.
Catching up on the Flores news, the Pats were one of the teams mentioned in this article about nickel being their base and switching between 3-4 and 4-3 looks from one game to another.
With Flores as our DC we may stay 4-3 and just ditch wide 9, and go with a more standard 4-3 setup.
I think we have better personnel for that too.
I do to and basically what you wrote above is more or less what the article said. You must have wrote it. LOL
Impressive!
Not gonna lie, Flores was at the bottom of my list. Oh well, hope he’s the guy. I had nothing against him except from whence he came.
Your last sentence is why he was at the bottom of yours and others lists because of the NE coaching tree track record. I for one don’t believe in that because everyone is different and there are lots of reasons a lot of those coaches failed.
If Flores is the guy I hope he’s awesome! LOL
Base defenses the way it was played back in the day is kind of thing of the past because of the extinction of the FB and the pro set. You can’t play a lot of base with 3 WRs and all these pass catching TEs in the game.
Polian was saying the other day, people say Belichick runs this scheme or that scheme. He doesn’t run anything. He’s rarely the same on offense or defense each week. There is no scheme. He just matches up to what he thinks you do well on offense when their on defense, and when he’s on offense, he just exploits your weaknesses, no consistent scheme.
Yep, depending on opponent he also has different active/inactive players based on what matches up the best. Coverage LB one week, big run defending LB another. More speed up front one week, more size and strength another. More TEs one week, more WRs another. That’s how Belichick does it. It’s all about matchups and game plan.
Some day, one of these NE assistants is going to be a good HC. I hope it’s NOW!
Bill O’Brien is probably the most successful but he also was HC at Penn State before becoming HC in the pros with Houston.
What will be interesting is if Flores is the HC or even someone else, would Rizzi be retained once again and would he want to be?
You might as well just hand out a case of beer. LOL
If Flores is going to be our new HC, go Chargers! Well… go Chargers anyway! 🙂
Chargers have a good balanced offense. Will be interesting to see how Flores goes about his business.
With Flores as HC it’s going to be interesting in the AFC East. Belichick/Flores and Gase have competed against each other and now all three will go head to head with different teams.
It would actually be shocking at this point if he didn’t become our HC. The vibe throughout the media is this is happening.
He’s coached in all three phases of the game. He did some scouting early on all the way up to calling the defense for the Pats this year. He’s been with NE for 14 years and has seen a lot of success. Let’s hope he can bring those winning ways here. 🙂
Reason I brought up that scheme does not seem to matter now days, is that scheme should not really matter in who we select in the draft either. Though, I may focus on players with more flexabilty like Josh Allen. Can’t believe Raekwon Davis is returning to Alabama for his senior year.
There you go, relationships. So many people in the NFL know each other in all sorts of ways.
At least whoever was doing the talk on QAM was a few minutes ago was pretty darn sure that our next HC will be Flores, but then sounded like he was going off the same out of town sources that we all have.
Like I said earlier the vibe throughout the media is that this is happening.
I don’t know anything about any of these guys or Flores in particular but it seems like the Belichick coaching progeny doesn’t do that well on their own.
If you look at how many coaching changes there have been in recent years there’s a lot of guys who didn’t succeed. I think it still comes down to talent and circumstances, not that these guys can’t coach.
The QB turnover begins, keep going
I think we’re going to see quite a bit of that throughout the roster.
Our problems are solved
Ken – When you see this
BarryJackson@flasportsbuzz
Miami Dolphins have traded Ryan Tannehill to the Jacksonville Jaguars for a 2019 4th RD pick
Then . . . . Our problems are solved
Be careful my heart can’t take jokes like that
🙂
Careful what you wish for
Ken – Really? Why would I ever be sorry if we traded Tannehill? Has he not had the opportunity to succeed here?
He needs to move on but he in the right place can be successful we were not the right place. I am not advocating we hold on to him but I do feel he is nowhere near as bad as many here think
Agreed. He may succeed somewhere else and/or become a journeyman/backup. But he’ll hook up with a team.
Cannot get this song out of my head . . .
I can’t get THIS song out of my head… LUV IT!!!
If Brian Flores can get a decent band together, that’s all I care about. Cam Cameron had trouble, Tony Sparano had trouble, Joe Philbin had trouble, and certainly Adam Gase had trouble.
He’ll get a pass in season one to go through the growing pains with the roster, his staff and his own learning curve. The second season is when you want to start to see his program take shape. The identity of the team.
Regardless of what anyone thinks of him at this time, the fact that he was handpicked by Grier at least we know they share a vision on what they want this team to be.
Who knows what QB will look like in 2019, but until we find “our guy”, build the trenches on both sides of the ball so when we do have him he has a chance to succeed from the get go.
+10000000000000000000
I couldn’t have stated that better.
Thank you sir!
Ken – What current QB do you think Tannehill can be at his best?
Nick Foles, Curt Cousins, Alex Smith
For whatever it may be worth, just click the link. Seems Wiki has determined that we have officially hired Brian Flores as our new HC…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Flores
It seems to be a done deal. It’s being reported everywhere. I also saw yesterday that Dallas doesn’t want to lose Kris Richard. Not only will he likely replace Rod Marinelli as DC, but he might become their next HC at some point.
M13, what do you think of the possibility and I’m just guessing of Hue Jackson becoming our OC? He’s out in Cincy and available. That seems to be a guy Flores could lean on a bit about the ups and downs of being a young first time HC. He’s got a lot of experience as a coach in a lot of places.
I wouldn’t be against it, if we couldn’t do better. I’m not saying we could do better, but I don’t know who Flores might have in mind.
So to answer your question… yeah, I think Hue could be a good selection as OC.
I’ll tell ya this, though… I’d rather see us hire Marvin Lewis as our DC than to hire Hue Jackson as our OC. But something tells me Lewis is going to take a year off from football.
Yeah who knows who Flores has on his list due to who he knows or likes as a possibility. Jackson is a vet coach who could probably give him some good insight into what the pitfalls are and a guy who’s been coaching QBs and offense for a lot of years.
Tim
I have a case of beer!
But you’ll have to pry it out of my cold dead hands!!!!!!!! 😉
LOL
M13, I agree on Marvin Lewis, he seemed to part ways with Cincy as in he wanted out not that he was fired. He had a long tenure there and they were okay – some playoff appearances. Just never got to the next level. I could see Lewis taking a year off as well.
I just hope that Flores selects the right people. Ya know, keeping Darren Rizzi would be another wise choice… another leader (he’s been our asst HC) with experience to lean on.
I mentioned Rizzi earlier. Would he be retained yet once again? Or would he want to move on not getting the HC job himself? No doubt Rizzi will get a job on STs, he’s one of the best in the business. I’m pretty sure Flores respects him. He’s been competing against him for 9 years twice a year. LOL
Yup, that’s what’s up with Rizzi: does he WANT to stay in Miami as our STs coach, or will he feed a hunger to get his own captain’s chair elsewhere (including college)? Time shall soon reveal…
Retool the OL and focus the offense on Drake and Ballage, get Gesicki, Smythe and whoever else is at TE involved, along with Stills, Wilson, Grant and even a guy like Butler to start with. We don’t know who the QB is yet but that’s not bad skill to work with. In fact there is a lot of big play potential.
So long as our FO and coaches are on the same page (for once), all will be well, IMO. And so long as they are, we can prevent disasters like this…
LMAO!!! Classic!
LOVE that movie!!! 😆
Tim, and don’t forget “the full effect with the ‘HEMPH'” 😆
I know all of them and have probably watched them all 20+ times. LOL
On defense retool the DL and even look at LB moving forward. I think we’re pretty solid in the secondary. During the cap cleansing I could see some vets out. Work on the front 7.
I dunno… I know there’s many different opinions on our LB corps, but I like it. I think if we can get the D-Line fixed, our LBs are more than adequate to both shut down the run and cover. JMO, my focus would be HUGE on our D-Line.
Our D-Line is where we’ve been losing vs the run, and we can’t generate enough pressure. Again, JMO.
That’s what I was saying but if we’re rebuilding – “On defense retool the DL and even look at LB moving forward.”
I see Alonso as a trading chip to a team who needs a pro LB who can make an impact. We definitely roll with McMillan and Baker. But another good, young LB would be nice too. Or maybe a young first time UFA even if 2nd tier, but a young guy who has shown some skills and maybe on the rise.
Not saying Kiko has to go, just looking at contract, age and 2 or 3 years down the line.
We probably need a whole new DL if we are going to stick with the 4-3
I think the simple way to put it is to say we need pass rushers
Like we were saying earlier, 4-3/3-4 doesn’t matter. Find DT and DE/OLB/Edge who can be versatile in any role. Teams play nickel/dime 70+% of the time. Playmakers on defense. You’re not shutting every team down every week. But make it difficult to score.
Need good,coordinators now
Yeah, that’s why I mentioned Hue Jackson. He’s available, has many years of experience on the offensive side of the ball and has been a HC. I think he’d be a great candidate and valuable asset for a young first time HC.
Local radio today had an interesting speculation that both Loggains and Rizzi were in Davie more for pre placement of coordinators than HC candidates IE: they are true staff candidates, lock them up before they get poached
Who knows but it could be plosable, makes sense for Loggains anyways
Interesting!
Here’s the thing, when a team resets – everyone wants everything cleaned out. That’s not a good practice. Get rid of good people just because they were there when the team didn’t have much success. Everyone goes through that.
There are ups and downs in life. It doesn’t mean everyone sucks! Coaching is about trying to find the best talent and getting the best out of them. Not creating magic. LOL
The best Tannehill could ever be is Dalton and that ain’t good enough.
I bet Tannehill dreams he could be Alex Smith- no.
Did Tannehill get fired yet?
Ken – Kirk Cousins I’ll give ya, but I think Cousins has been way overrated and I’ve said here many times they’re not far apart. Alex Smith is better than Tannehill. It’s time for boy wonder to go somewhere else. If he has success, so be it, he couldn’t do it here.
But…but …he’s the next Dan Marino!
Rob – closer to Dan Pastorini
Pastorini was a good QB
There are maybe 15 teams with good QBs, that leaves more than half the league QB starved.
Burt Jones was pretty good
my childhood idle was Roman Gabriel, before Miami/ Don Shula, i was a Ram fan, i thought their helmet was kool.
when i was a kid i would watch nfl sunday morning highlights, i loved the slow mo and the music behind it, on monday morning i would walk to school and pretend i was running the ball in slomo, i would be humming the music…stiff arming defenders..celebrating in the endzone…the neighbors saw this and told my mother…they thought i was touched!
They were correct.
thanks man
I liked Fran Tarkenton and Warren Moon and Dan Fouts … back then, not now.
PS: j/k Rob
You were touched by the sport.
I would need to be convinced about Hue Jackson, very unimpressed with his body of work.
I don’t want to jinx it, so I won’t say who I want for OC and DC.
I am ambivalent about Flores if he really is the guy.
Great rags to riches story, looks the part, good energy, skimpy on management experience …
would need an extra large can of lysol though
I loved NFL films. My friends and I always did those slo mo running motions and throwing and catching, just like the films. I liked Jim Zorn, he was exciting to watch. Hated Bert Jones because the Colts were our division rival back then
I was never a fan of Bert Jones either, purely as being not good enough for me.
Rob I know exactly what you mean.
I used to do Oscar Robertson moves before I could even reach the basket from the free throw line.
And slo mo is the only way i could do Walter Payton.
Not happy that Gase is probably going to get Gregg Williams. That’s a great hire. We get Matt Burke, Jets get Gregg Williams. I guess he’s learning
yeah let’s see if Williams actually has anything left in the tank.
Gase does need a DC he can just hire and forget about though, as he has no intention of being involved with the defense.
I hate how the jests are stacking up; they could be dangerous.
on the good side
if Gase can pull a Miami Miracle once a year,
then that will help us in our quest to win the division
by giving the cheats a loss they don’t usually have.
I think Williams has plenty in the tank. You could easily make the argument that he deserved the HC job in Cleveland as much as Kitchens. They went with Kitchens for continuity with Mayfield, but Williams did good work there
Yeah, big fan of Williams. He’s done good work over the years. Pissed as well that we had Burke and he gets Williams.
He (Gase) needs a pro, because the super genius has his head up his ass when it comes to defense, and he got one in Gregg Williams. Matt Burke will probably never climb back up to DC in the NFL.
I just hope we hire good OC and DCs
I don’t want to see this fire the OC after year 1 then get a new one and hope it turns around
The coordinators are in the coach
If we hire a rookie coach a vet coordinator probably would be very helpful
Let’s have a cohesive unit from day 1 and give them a shit to build something – together
I agree. I really wanted Bieniemy to be the guy but you can’t argue the team didn’t get a guy of high character and integrity as their leader. But, he needs to have really good ppl with him and, hopefully, they’re experienced, so they can keep from him having too much on his plate to start.
If they can do that and Grier can start building the team thru the draft and just limit FA to a couple key players then we should be on the right track. I don’t see any temper tantrums coming from this guy and, one thing is for sure, the players won’t be able to take advantage of him; rookie HC or not.
I wouldn’t mind Hue. He’s a terrible HC but his offenses were good in Cincy and Oakland. Dalton had his best year under him and Hue got decent work from Jason Campbell of all people in Oakland. He’s desperate to show he’s better than his HC record is. Hue knows how to run the ball as well. He’s not the best but he has lots of experience in many offensive positions and has done well with a limited amount on his plate.
I keep seeing Caldwell as the guy coming with him but my first choice would be Kubiak
Hue Jackson had no chance in CLE when he was HC. Management botched that team up over and over during his tenure and then when they finally had good players this year they fired him.
Jim Caldwell would be another vet coach that could help Flores.
Tim, I agree with you on trying to trade Kiko. I would think we could/should get more than a 4th even if we give up one of our 7th’s and Kiko for a late 2nd or 3rd round pick. Also, in addition to McMillan and Baker, I think we have not yet seen the best of Chase Allen with his size and speed. IMO, he (plus McMillan and Baker) just need better coaching and they will get that and then some with Flores.
I agree on Allen. When he’s on the field he always showed up. Good STs guy too.