Despite the fact that the New England Patriots are still in the playoffs, and therefore “officially” we have not asked the Patriots “unofficial” defensive coordinator if he wants the job, that hasn’t stopped all media outlets, both radio and print from saying the Dolphins new Head Coach is Brian Flores. In addition, they’re already “unofficially” naming his staff, as Flores has tabbed Jim Caldwell for a senior advisory role to the Dolphins. I’d like to “officially” wish Jim Caldwell a Happy Birthday today. Caldwell, formerly the Head Coach of the Indianapolis Colts, who by the way, was 24-8 as HC before being “unofficially” forced to “Suck for Luck”.
There are rumors that Flores wants to hire former Arkansas and Wisconsin Head Coach Bret Bielema as Defensive Coordinator, but need I say, that’s “unofficial”. Bielema has good experience as a Head Coach, and has a strong defensive background.
The Bengals “Unofficially” hired former Dolphins QB Coach Zac Taylor, who was QB’s Coach for Ryan Tannehill. This leads to “unofficial” rumors that Ryan Tannehill will be the next Bengals QB. Oh please, please make that happen!
The NY Jets “officially” introduced Adam Gase as Head Coach, and I have to say that after the press conference, I kinda feel bad for him. Oh, I still hope he falls flat on his face, but his “crazy eyes” were mostly what the NY sports media talked about. The morning after on the Boomer and Gio show on WFAN in NY, there were parodies of many different “eyes songs”, like “Betty Davis Eyes”, These Eyes”, “Doctor My Eyes”, etc. I’d prefer the NY media destroy him for his football acumen, or lack thereof.
Speaking of the NY Jets, they are close to tying things up with former Browns interim HC Gregg Williams, meaning they have “unofficially” signed him. That’s a damn good hire. It pains me to say so, but the Jets are definitely making things easier for Gase. Williams will allow Gase to do exactly what he did in Miami, which is ignore the defense. While we had hack DC Matt Burke, the Jets have an excellent veteran defensive coach running the defense. It was clear that Adam Gase does NOT have any control of the 53 man roster, another bonus for the petulant young HC who routinely jettisoned players in his Dolphins tenure.
So to recap, we “unofficially” have Brian Flores as HC, Jim Caldwell as a Senior Advisor, and Bret Bielema as DC. We have “officially” lost D-Line Coach Kris Kocurek, who goes to the San Francisco 49ers. Kocurek, by the way, replaces former Dolphins DT Jeff Zgonina. I liked that guy when he played here.
Lastly, but not leastly, the Dolphins have “officially” hired former Bills Scout Marvin Allen as Assistant GM. Allen was with the Kansas City Chiefs from 2013-2017, in which they drafted QB Patrick Mahomes, WR Tyreek Hill, RB Kareem Hunt, DT Chris Jones, DE Dee Ford, OT Eric Fisher, TE Travis Kelce, OG Zach Fulton and OT Mitch Morse. That’s quite a resume! Looks like an excellent hire, we’re going to need some excellent drafts to become a power in the AFC East. Grier and Allen have a good relationship, and one that should help us going forward.
RIP Bob Kuechenberg
Finsmob Unleashed 
This is “officially” a fantastic post
Thanks!
I’m “officially” first 🤙
Nice write up Mike! but I have to ask….”Lastly, but not lastly” what does that mean?
Maybe I should said lastly but not leastly?
Last but not least. Leastly is not a word. At least I don’t think it is. 😉
It is NOW! 🙂
Brian Flores only got two votes on the poll. Are you guys happy with the selection? I am NOT happy. I do not want him here. There have been zero successful HC’s from Belicheat’s tree. All that fruit has been rotten.
Hopefully he is a place holder for the “Tanking” season and Harbough comes available next year.
I don’t know Rock, he wasn’t my choice, but only for the reason that other Patriots disciples have failed. That doesn’t mean he will. Hopefully he assembles a good staff, and I think bringing in Caldwell, who has plenty of experience, and possibly Bielema, who also has experience will help him along.
Haskins – a one year starter…..Yup, I can see the Dolphins selling the farm to move up and get him. That would be “soooo Dolphins”
Great write Mike E !! It’s also PhinPup’s Birthday today. Holy shit he’s 29.
That’s only 4 in dog years, still a pup. I’ll wish him Happy Birthday on Facebook.
Thanks!
Happy Birthday Billy!
Happy Birthday Jim Caldwell
I know some of you don’t like Travis Wingfield, but his is a pretty good article.
https://www.lockedondolphins.com/dolphins/crash-course-on-2019-dolphins-defensive-scheme/
Happy B-day to PhinPup.
Officially laughed at the the “official” and “unofficial” theme. 🙂
Unofficial is just that as to us. Flores could just change his mind or the Evil one could say “gonna retire in two years…. wouldn’t you like to be the next Pats HC?”
Officially predicting that Gase won’t be happy with the pics of him that the guys at the NY Post and Daily News on the back covers.
That was a funny way to do that write up, Mike. Well done. LOL
Has Zac Taylor been officially hired with the Rams still in the playoffs?
Oooh, may have to change that to unofficial. 🙂
Rockphin says:
January 16, 2019 at 1:42 pm
I know some of you don’t like Travis Wingfield, but his is a pretty good article.
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It is a good and thorough article, but it’s essentially a waste of time until things are made official. Stanger just made a great point above.
One thing I’ve learned over all these years: until it’s made official, it’s all just gossip and rumors… and more often than not, it’s lies just to generate clicks (revenue) for so-called journalists/writers.
Rockphin, thanks for sharing the link, though. If all falls into place, Wingfield’s article could become a decent resource in the future.
Happy Birthday Phin Pup
Happy B-Day, Phin-Pup!
Happy Birthday Phin Pup!
Rockphin says:
January 16, 2019 at 10:59 am
Haskins – a one year starter…..Yup, I can see the Dolphins selling the farm to move up and get him. That would be “soooo Dolphins”
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I certainly hope so but i doubt it, maybe if he’s there at 13, if you’re looking to Tank you have to stockpile draft picks not sell the farm for one guy
you have fallen in the trap of the one year starter then. How many QB’s have looked great in one or two years of college and flamed out in the NFL?
But then I am bias. I hate everything to do with Buckeyes. Just because they take over my local bar every Sat and the old comptoller at my office was an obnoxious fan.
Take it for what it’s worth.
Not much
I posted it about Bridgewater reportedly wanting to play for Miami.
There is no doubt the Pats do a lot of unique formations with their defensive fronts.
but it’s essentially a waste of time until things are made official
Well, MF13, everything about THIS site is a waste of time but it doesn’t stop you or I from wasting so much of our time here! LOL 😉
LOL 🙂
I’m sorry, but I can’t or won’t speculate on speculation, that’s all!
Don’t make me hold you to that “Not speculating on speculation part” you might have nothing to post on here! 😉
Billy is 29!!??? (phin pup) Man, we have to make a new name for him. 29 is no pup. 😉
SonofPhindog?
Bridgewater would likely be a stopgap and if he plays really well he’s the QB. I’m sure he wants to play, not be a backup.
Former #Dolphins special teams coach Darren Rizzi left Green Bay without a contract. It’s likely he’s weighing his offers, but apparently the #Packers didn’t make him one he couldn’t refuse or he wouldn’t have left. Also, #Dolphins WRs coach Shawn Jefferson interviewed Tuesday.
GOOD! Someone please rid us of Shawn Jefferson!
What do you have against Shawn Jefferson?
So….this site is “unofficially” a waste of time.
But I “officially” love it!
Great write Mike E!
GO FINS
Thanks ER!
I don’t look at it as being rigid in the draft and understand the draft can be fluid but I also think you need to have a strong focus on what you’re trying to accomplish.
Build the trenches first. Then add to it. If you’re strong up front on both sides of the ball you can compete in most games.
Agreed
My son can’t log in to thank you for the Birthday wishes so he asked me to Thank all of you for him.
He’s a good pup – I hope he celebrates hard, on the weekend.
He’s going to Vegas Thursday – Sunday soooooo…
Rockphin says:
January 16, 2019 at 4:17 pm
Don’t make me hold you to that “Not speculating on speculation part” you might have nothing to post on here! 😉
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Point taken! But I’m only talking about this coaching matter, FWIW! 😀
Tank is the wrong word to use. It has such a unsportsmanlike like connotation.
It does, but it’s somewhat reality. The Knicks are bad this year, because Porzingis is out, but they’re probably better than their record. They’re 10-33, and STILL don’t have the #1 pick, which is CLE right now because they haven’t yet won double digit games. The #1 pick will almost certainly be Zion Williamson, who is a beast.
It’s not tanking, it’s rebuilding meaning winning anything of significance is not paramount.
So weird…
And saddening…
Scary. He needs help.
I think BOTH of them need help!
Yeah Ritchie has issues as well. But Martin was thinking about murder.
Methinks Richie has thought about murder more than once, to be honest.
And here’s something: I think Richie should donate his brain for CTE analysis after he’s passed.
Mike E. says:
January 16, 2019 at 5:19 pm
It does, but it’s somewhat reality. The Knicks are bad this year, because Porzingis is out, but they’re probably better than their record. They’re 10-33, and STILL don’t have the #1 pick, which is CLE right now because they haven’t yet won double digit games. The #1 pick will almost certainly be Zion Williamson, who is a beast.
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that’s not necessarily true, whomever gets the ping pong ball will get him
maybe they should do ping pong balls in the nfl???
Nah… the NBA is built on one or two star players. The NFL is about a lot more players and their draft is much deeper.
There’s a link from wingfield above which dissects the pasties* defense sets.
This is EXACTLY what I said was wrong with the way we were running the wide 9
insofar as what we were asking our DEs to do.
“The scheme is also designed to shut down inside zone, but also free up the linebackers with fewer keys and responsibilities. Instead of asking the defensive ends to set the edge on the way to their pass rush (the design of the wide-9) this alignment puts that responsibility on the outside linebackers.
We blunted Wake’s contributions, ruined Harris’s speed step, and wasted Quinn’s specific skillset.
^
And while I agree with all of the above, the key ingredient missing from our “Wide-9” design was a 1-tech DT… who Gase happily got rid of.
D and I have been ALL over this from the jump.
You guys say that about Phillips because of his size but forget about his inconsistency. He was last on the depth chart at DT. He’s not a special player and when he was still here you think our defense was so much better? Godchaux and Taylor are better than Phillips.
Harris was drafted for the wrong scheme. He’s not a fit as a DE in a 4-3. All he is IS a speed rusher. He’s not a complete DE.
It wasn’t just wide 9 because we didn’t even run it that often. I saw more standard 4-3 than wide 9, then lots of nickel.
We should actually see if we could try and trade Harris to a team that runs a 3-4 and is looking for a pass rushing OLB because he’s more of a fit there.
Or use him differently like how the Pats use their DE/OLBs. If Flores is our new HC, I don’t think we’ll be a standard scheme on defense. Why would we be when he’s been part of what the Pats have been doing with hybrid formations for over a decade.
true. Pats seem to get things done with guys in unorthodox ways. I guess it’s a wait and see thing. Look at how well Cooper did in Dallas compared to Oakland. If we’ve got the right coaching staff maybe even Parker will shine this coming season.
I bet the Martin-Incognito saga ends with them living together on a sitcom
I have some theme song ideas
🎶🎶🎶can’t get away from you🎶🎶🎶
🎶🎶🎶you make racist jokes🎶🎶🎶
🎶🎶🎶and you threaten to sue me🎶🎶🎶
🎶🎶🎶can’t get away from you🎶🎶🎶
🎶🎶🎶remember when pouncey bought us drugs🎶🎶🎶
🎶🎶🎶I saw four twins that night🎶🎶🎶
🎶🎶🎶can’t get away from you🎶🎶🎶
🎶🎶🎶we are just a couple of jerks that ruin franchises🎶🎶🎶
🎶🎶🎶can’t get away from you🎶🎶🎶
And then it ends with a shot of the two of them in cafeteria throwing a tray at Screech
Tim Knight says:
January 16, 2019 at 7:45 pm
You guys say that about Phillips because of his size but forget about his inconsistency…
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I’m just going to shortcut to a point… weren’t you a supporter of Phillips, too… inconsistency and all?
His first two seasons for sure but he never emerged as anything but what he’s always been. He makes a play or two a game that shows potential and then he would disappear for much of the game or just be average. Suh was the 1-tech DT you want but his contract wasn’t a good fit for us.
Like I said earlier, we didn’t even play wide 9 much of the time. We used a lot of typical 4-3 alignments.
All this said, who cares now, our defense will not be the same in 2019 both in personnel or scheme.
Alright, buddy… fair enough.
I just don’t agree with how Gase would part with talent. He really couldn’t manage alpha personas.
And on the point of Jordan Phillips… you don’t fire somebody when there’s nobody else waiting in the wings to replace him (size/mold/attributes).
Phillips isn’t an alpha. LOL
Gase parted ways with divas, not alphas.
Ajayi – was about personal stats
Landry – was about personal stats and #1 WR money
Phillips – was about not starting even though he didn’t impress the coaches enough
Those guys were complainers, not alphas.
Again that said, all of that is over. Off we go! LOL
You know who could flourish in any defense if used properly is Jerome Baker. That guy can do a lot of different things and he’s still learning. His quickness and speed is something you can’t teach.
I’d rather have used our 3rd round pick on QB Mason Rudolph, but WOW has Jerome Baker been nice as a rook! I DO believe that he’s going to be a major element in our future!
Yep!
Lou, you see the Pats use 1 DT hand in ground and 4-6 defenders all standing up – who blitzes and who doesn’t. I’ve seen them also use no DL with hand in the ground. They don’t play a system, they play matchups that help them win the game. It’s quite fascinating. Belichick did a lot of creative things with the Giants back in the day too, the difference was they had good DL and exceptional LBs.
Tim Knight says:
January 16, 2019 at 8:13 pm
Phillips isn’t an alpha. LOL
Gase parted ways with divas, not alphas.
Ajayi – was about personal stats
Landry – was about personal stats and #1 WR money
Phillips – was about not starting even though he didn’t impress the coaches enough
Those guys were complainers, not alphas.
Again that said, all of that is over. Off we go! LOL
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LOL, nah, man. It just seems to me that Gase couldn’t manage ‘alphas’ on his team. And you forgot to mention the BIGGEST one: Suh.
Hey, it’s all water under the bridge at this point.
But also… now ya know why Tannenbaum was fired… and we’re still paying on our dead cap due to his decisions.
If you asked reporters who followed the team, they all Gase embraced alphas, didn’t like me first types which are not alphas. A good example of an alpha is Ray Lewis. None of the three players we’re discussing has a Ray Lewis mentality.
Tannenbaum wasn’t fired because of our cap, he was fired along with Gase because even if the team doesn’t have the right makeup, they tried to correct it and win now regardless of sustainability. Ross got tired of that trend. Grier must have influenced him and/or was known for saying we should be doing this another way. That’s what everything points too.
We could have $60+M in cap space to work with in a rebuild this year in 2019. Think of it this way, your draft options are endless now. Except for probably Safety. LOL
Why don’t we just draft Josh Allen, and a NT?
Then we can run what the fuck ever the new coach wants??????????????
We might have to trade up for Josh Allen
He might be there????/
There are at least 13 “blue chippers” in this draft on defense alone!
LOL
Telling!
I think that was a compliment to Miami. Once Ajayi was out, Williams and Drake were the tandem. It lasted only 2-3 weeks when Williams went down for the season. There was a reason some of us liked him, we did showcase him. He just wasn’t the starter. He wasn’t in KC either until the top two dogs went down. Williams is also on a superior offense now but we all knew he had some ability.
I think his mind frame is also that he’s in a once in a lifetime moment with the Chiefs and a Championship. I want to see the Chiefs win it all and Williams is one of the reasons. The others are my respect for Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.
Williams was good for us, but I think we all understand how much better any of our players would be in the Chiefs offense. They’d even find a way to get Parker and Gesicki humming.
We didn’t use him all that much, but I thought he was a good receiving back. He’s worked hard and is now a better rusher as well.
Agreed! He’s taking advantage of the moment and I’m rooting for him. I hope he’s one of the reasons the Chiefs destroy the Pats. LOL
Didn’t Gase actually call Ajayi and Landry alphas? It’s hard to find alphas who don’t have some diva to them anyway….even a guy like Ray Lewis. The real issue is that, like it or not, coaches need to deal with selfish, egocentric players in the NFL. As a coach…and I said this at the time…you have to find a way to coach them. That’s your job. You can’t just get rid of talent because you don’t get along with or like them. Building a team with “your guys” sounds good…but it shouldn’t trump talent. All 53 guys will never all be your type of guys anyway.
If we drafted the whole Wisconsin OL would that make you happy????
All of that is over now. We’ll see what the new approach is on all things. LOL
sickening how we let Damien Williams go for nothing, guy’s a baller and he can catch the football too.
He was a UFA. Every team loses some guys to FA. Really… Damien Williams was the key? Maybe just maybe the Chiefs offense has something to do with their 3rd back on the depth chart stepping up. Good for him, but man he’s not the reason why our Phins are where they are.
You have a problem with Drake/Ballage?
Love Drake / Ballage (and Gore)
But someday soon, we need to keep guys we develop.
I don’t want to lose Drake like we did Lamar.
Just thinking of what’s out there and options. I could see us rolling with Falk and Rudock and signing Bridgewater. Play 2019 with them, see if Teddy can reach a high level, and/or the young bucks show something. Then target the 2020 class if not satisfied. I don’t think the team will be talentless and horrible, but it will be young and new and playoffs are probably a lofty goal. But who knows?
Just draft one and play the best option!
No need for Teddy or Tyrod!
pretty scary QB room with just Rudock and Falk.
Tiny bit of NFL experience there.
What if you get the Peterman Syndrome from Rudock as your starter
and your backup is a noodle arm college guy?
That’s called rebuilding!
No FA’s allowed!
Bridgewater has experience and has overcome – to a degree major adversity. I’m not sure we’re going heavy on QB this year. We’ll see. I’m looking for stopgap and development. We likely draft a QB too.
I’m pretty sure Bridgewater wants to start or at least compete to do so and not be a backup. Unless Brees hangs it up after this run and Teddy is their guy for now.
Just looking at options, nothing more than speculating opportunities.
No blockbuster FAs, not no solid available players. Just stay young. 26/27 is not going on 40. LOL
Several ppl on here say it was not about the wide 9 (“we didn’t run it that much etc”) but there is a right way and a wrong way to run every scheme.
The Boston defense is the right way to run the Wide 9. Our “DC” never really understood how to align the players to exploit the angles of the wide 9. A crucial aspect of it is a stud 1 tech.
I’d be ok er going with Bridgewater or Tyrod since they have real NFL experience. Then draft a franchise guy in 2020 to gradually take over.
Oh well Night all!
CBS has us trading up to 5 with Tampa to take Daniel Jones QB out of Duke cuz he “beat up Temple in the Bowl game”
CBS is on premature edraftulation. LOL
I don’t really get behind this idea that the franchise is going to purposely tank. That’s an insult to every player and team in the league.
Not going after a high price QB or selling your next couple drafts doesnt mean tanking.
I believe the defense can vastly improve with the young talent already here. Just need somebody better to put the pieces in the proper places.
And the offense cant be any worse no matter what they do. So to me I think the team can still compete while rebuilding. The record may be a few games worse but I think the blowouts go away. If that happens then I’ll be happy and see it as a good step forward for the future.
On that note…let’s see what Grier does running the team. I have feeling he was told “No” alot.
GO FINS
Agreed. But now we killed our draft position again. LOL
Winning games is part of building a winning culture. Losing for a savior is ghey. 😉
Yep.
Thing is I think they could lose a few more next year but actually be a better team…if that makes sense.
And if they are sold out on “their” guy then it doesnt matter the draft position. They can sell 3 years if they have to. But they better hit on it. LOL.
What happens if we go 9-7 and make a wildcard? Is it we won too much? It’s goofy in theory. What’s wrong with being decent during a rebuild – you have to hit rock bottom to do it? Say’s who?
I agree. Who says the team has to suck during a rebuild? It doesn’t. You build it the right way and it doesn’t mean it’s going to suck. We get a coaching staff that knows how to utilize the players better on both sides of the ball and knows how to develop the talent that’s already there and is brought in thru the draft and this team may surprise a lot of people.
Yeah, we’ve got some holes on both sides but it’s still not impossible to see this team win 9 games next season with the talent it’s got.
I dont see them selling out for this years draft. I’m talking when we go 7-9 again next year! LOL
You one upped me! LOL
Drafttek has us taking Dexter Lawrence in the first, Anthony Nelson in the 2nd and Ta’amu in the 4th. Funny this is they had the Ta’amu pick before the meeting at the Shrine game practice.
I actually like these picks. They also have us taking Brumfield, the guard out of LSU, in the 3rd.
Building a team this way makes a lot more sense than trading and reaching for a quarterback like Jones or Lock or picking one of them at #13. You want to BUILD a team. Not say, well if it doesn’t work out, we can just draft another one next year.
A lot of people are saying that about the Murray pick. Take Murray. Worst thing that can happen is it doesn’t work out and we suck and then you can pick another one next year. What kind of logic is that?
I don’t know about anyone else but I’m kind of tired of waiting for this team to become good and I mean consistently good; not win 10 games one year and suck for 3 because we signed a bunch of guys to short-term contracts to “win now” and then cut them after one season.
Build it right. I’ve been saying that for how long. I think we finally get to see how that’s going to work out. Finally.
Walter Football, on the other hand, has us taking Kyler Murray in the first. Their reasoning? “there’s no dumber owner of a bad NFL football team than Ross”
I never meant the players would purposely try to lose games. What I mean by tanking, is say playing the entire season with Fales or Falk.
I’m not sure barring injuries that this team was that bad. maybe add a couple of guards a QB, and a good run oriented coach that knows situational football.
do we keep Juwaun James???
My pure guess based upon Grier being involved with taking him in the first place is yes.
He was a Hickey picky
Grier was director of scouting so he probably was involved in taking him.
All hail the big uglies!
YOUR TEAM
MIAMI DOLPHINS
YOUR PICKS
1: R1P13 DL JEFFERY SIMMONS MISSISSIPPI STATE
2: R2P16 C ELGTON JENKINS MISSISSIPPI ST
3: R3P14 G CHRIS LINDSTROM BOSTON COLLEGE
4: R4P14 DL TERRY BECKNER JR. MISSOURI
5: R5P13 EDGE CHRISTIAN MILLER ALABAMA
6: R6P15 OT ALEX BARS NOTRE DAME
7: R7P15 LB JOE GILES-HARRIS DUKE
That 7th round Linebacker is going to get hazed mercilessly
Did you guys see the meme of Gase at the press conference where someone put a floating feather in front of his dancing eyes? It’s hilarious.
Tried to find it, but couldn’t. Where did you see it?
It was in a story the other day. I can’t find it now but if I do I’ll post it.
Sonny, I found a taco video, that was pretty funny
in 2016 Gase had success with Ajayi, in 2017 when he kicked Ajayi to the curb he no longer had a running game and we were horrible, in 2018 he signed some key FAs and brought in Gore.
barring injuries and bad play calling this was a good team.
it would seem that Gase was learning on the job. he wasn’t using Gore at first very well but he seemed to adapt to giving Gore more carries.
he went 5-1 against the Jets, maybe that’s why they hired him.
he learned on the job here, i just hope he doesn’t take that knowledge to NY and exact revenge on us.
But he insisted on running Tannehill out there along with Oswieller and it blew up in his face.
I think Ross had influence on him going with Tannehill, still his situational playcalling was horific!
https://youtu.be/u6b_U3s4h5A
Yeah, that’s what I found. It’s amusing
That’s pretty much the same
LMFAO
LOL
He must have some serious social anxiety, and im sure its exacerbated by being in the media capitol of the US. Thats some serious eye disengagement he was doing there.
That’s the way he is normally, if you watch the presser his eyes are always wide open. he would have been great in “one flew over the cuckoo’s nest”
i had a friend like that who passed away, he looked like a homicidal maniac
Yeah, but that eye tracking is like e is deliberately avoiding making eye contact with the people who are asking the questions. I dont doubt that he was like that normally, but i stil think he has some sorta social issues. Thats a very usually characteristic in people with social confidence. They usually look straight at who they are talking to.
unusual… oh and i have had friends like you are talking about too. People had them pegged as the person who migght come in and clean out the office with their AR lol.
You keep those friends close so the first pop pop you hear isnt in your doorway.
I think James should at least get a decent contract offer from us, i dont know that he wont take a different one though. I think a lot of it will hinger on who the new OC and/or HC is. He is good enough to get a good offer from someone so i just wonder how important he will be to a new HC/OC’s system.
hinge
I see a mixed bag of comments from different non dolphin fan based places on the Gase hire/fire. We as fans have a much more personal view of things but as a whole i dont think we are too far off what others are thinking too. We seem to be a mixed bag of yay and nay about being happy he is gone, and thats what the rest of the people seem to be too. I think the guy could have spent another year or two as our HC as long as he changed his mindset about start over, change QB, etc. but him leaving was just as good, he dint really seem to have the team behind him despite the things the players said, so i dunno if he ever would have put together a solid team here.
My friends that are Jets fans have already rationalized to themselves why it was a great hire/. It might turn out that way if he’s willing to let qualified people do their jobs. Having Williams as DC was big get for him. If they sign an OC equal to Williams as a DC, things may go well there.
Yeah William is kind of an asshole but he is effective as a D coordinator. He was at senior bowl one year and i was down at field level and he was so bad i almost wish i had gotten seats further away from the field level because his language and antics were so bad. Im not even put off by cursing either, he was pretty vulgar though
I had my kids with me and there were a ton of kids up front of us too, so that was part of it.
D says:
January 17, 2019 at 11:08 am
Yeah, but that eye tracking is like e is deliberately avoiding making eye contact with the people who are asking the questions
That’s not the case here because he had just sat down and they hadn’t started asking questions yet. He was surveying the room. I would love to see the room from behind him to get an idea of what he was looking at or if he was just looking away from things.
Some of the eye tracking was damn near straight up lol. I guess they could have had several rows i an auditorium type place, but i dunno. It was wierd to say the least.
D – Sailor talk?
Yeah and he was cussing at them and screaming like an asshole and belittling them. The expletives were flying out and some of it was inappropriate comments too. He’s a real hothead.
If you have played football at all you come across those guys. Its just their way of motivating players, but there are better ways than that. I like the fire he has but he could have been just as effective with half the flame.
Gotcha – Some guys think the cursing adds the right emphasis.
I call it sentence seasoning, so im kinda in that boat, but his just seemed uncontrolled. His defenses though are generally effective, so he gets something out of them for sure.
Greg Williams ….. isn’t he the coach who got in trouble for the bounty / head hunting scandal?
Yes
Yeah bounty gate was his. He took a lot less damage than Payton did, pretty much bounced right back, no suspension just a black eye take Fisher didn’t mind when he brought him to LA right after.
He’s pretty smarmy. There is something about him i dont really care for, or he just may remind me of a coach i had that i really didn’t like. Not sue. He is one of those coaches where you dont have to like him because he is effective, and fans can generally accept it as long as his defenses seem solid. Soon as he fails though he is one of those guys who might have his head be the one that rolls.
Nobody forced Gase to go with Tannehill. Gase coached him for 3 years and he didn’t become anything more than an average NFL QB. He didn’t coach Tanny to that next level. He failed in what he was supposedly known for….and to an extent….what he was hired to do. But, early on Gase was full-in on Tanny and basically called Tanny detractors morons every chance he got….kinda like around here….for questioning his ability. Gase failed because he tied his success to Tanny’s. That’s on him….can’t run from it now.
Who said Gase he was? Where is this coming from, or just a reflection back on what happened?
Oops, who said he was?
Gase then basically told the stej that he sacrificed stats to win games….which means he handcuffed RT17. So…..was it just his ego he was pumping RT17 up for because he knew he’d make him great? Or does he figure nobody in NY ever saw his pressers down in Miami….
MikeE,
Yes, there have been comments over the last weeks suggesting that people other than Gase were making the decision to go with Tanny. Not a big deal. None of us really know how things went down.
I think we find out for real now with Grier. He may jettison alot of players out of town.
ER,
Shouldn’t a coach always sacrifice stats for wins? Lol
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Does that mean there were times he was sacrificing wins for stats? That would suggest he was trying to prop up his “QB guru” status by calling games to get his QB numbers instead of going for wins. I didn’t watch his presser, but I sure hope he wasn’t suggesting that. That would be hard to fathom….until you consider all the 3 yard passes we saw on 3rd and long. Lol
That was his answer for the horrible offensive numbers……strange to say the least. His comments matched his eyes!
I think you just hit the nail on the head, Randy… at least IMO.
Randy – Did Gase say it, or someone from the Jets who was defending him?
I know he said he sacrificed stats for wins, which is garbage, but did he actually say the Dolphins forced Tannehill on him?
Happy B-Day, James Earl Jones! 88 years old today and he’s still performing on Broadway. The Force is STRONG with this one…
M13,
I was just being a smart ass. I just really can’t believe any coach would worry more about stats or their own reputation than winning games. That seems a bit out there.
I think it seems a bit out there that Gase had even said what he said about sacrificing stats for wins. But clearly (at least to me), Tanny’s stats were propped up by Gase’s play-calling… bubble-screens, shovel-passes, and short passes altogether.
I mean… that Gase even decided to say what he said reeks of defending what actually happened.
Imagine a car-thief being questioned for stealing a car… and in the line of questioning, he makes a statement that he had nothing to due with the intentional match-fire that was set at a house he visited at the exact same time. WHAT???
MikeE,
No, sorry for the confusion. I was commenting on comments made by posters here. Whether or not they were personal thoughts or garnered from information they read or heard, I have no idea.
OK, gotcha
It is going to be interesting watching Gase in NY. I think we are gonna see some Harbaugh….as in psycho! LOL
I truly hope we haven’t heard the last of James Earl Jones voicing Vader, and I think Episode IX will be the last chance we get… IF they bring Vader back in one way, form, or fashion.
He had been voicing Vader in “Star Wars Rebels”, a CGI cartoon, as late as 2016.
And I’m sorry, this is TOO DARK for children to watch. It comes with a “Y7” rating, but this should be more like PG or PG-13.
Randy – If Gase came out and said the Dolphins forced Tannehill, that would piss me off, and I doubt if anyone would hire him after saying something like that.
His offense was pollution of our team
There’s no denying that!
More EW Shrine notes.
Miami Dolphins team interviews:
BYU linebacker Sione Takitaki
Michigan safety Tyree Kinnel
Troy cornerback Blace Brown
Oklahoma State defensive end Jordan Brailford
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article224686170.html#storylink=rss
Jonathan Martin to stand trial
Sad. Makes you wonder how he kept playing football thru HS, college, etc……
He needs some help. Hope he gets it.
Bullying happens to a lot of kids, and adults, but he obviously has underlying issues that keep him from being able to deal with it in a healthy way. I cant say that i feel like what happened to hi is ok, but i also cant say that what happened to him isnt just life either. I wont speculate whats going on with this guy or whether or not he should be able to handle all this but doesn’t it just feel weird that we are talking about a full grown adult wanting to go Columbine on his teammates because he was hazed, even if it was a severe hazing? This guy lives in a very dark place, and the bullying wasn’t all that put him there.
ER – Yeah, he definitely needs help. It was just a bad mix with him and Richie, but it probably would have happened at some point with someone else.
It happened to him in HS as well. There was another athlete and former classmate or teammate in California he was targeting as well
And that’s what makes me wonder how/why he kept playing football. It is just so weird. In that situation you’d think if you dont get the problem corrected, you take yourself out of those situations. Most of us know what those locker rooms are like…..
Randy says:
January 17, 2019 at 12:33 pm
Nobody forced Gase to go with Tannehill. Gase coached him for 3 years and he didn’t become anything more than an average NFL QB. He didn’t coach Tanny to that next level.
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Off season 2016 Ross liked Tannehill, he wanted him as the starting QB, clean cut upstanding guy that he had a lot invested in…
so when he hired Gase Ross wanted to stay with Tannehill and it was made clear prior to the hire,
Ross wanted to give Tannehill a couple of more years and if Gase thought he wasn’t his guy then they would move on….
or so i read
Then Gase took the job with that knowledge. That’s on him. Either way it all failed….time for next chapter. Hopefully this one is written better than the last few…
So if after 1 season, Gase told Ross that Tannehill isn’t the guy, you think Ross would make him stick with it?
I’m not sure about any of this. Tannehill missed all of 2017 and 5 games this year. It just didn’t work with all of them.
That’s what Ireland did to Philbin…
they went 10-6 in year one made the playoffs and tanny got hurt and didn’t finish the season, one would assume Gase was very high on Tannehill at that point as were most around here.
Yep. That’s why I said either way it ALL failed
Rob – Then Gase wasn’t forced to work with Tannehill, he made the choice
he agreed to ross’s terms or so i read.
He had complete control of the roster….he said so.
Yeah Gase always seemed to be in Tannehill’s corner. I don’t think he was forced on him.
even in year 3 he had his back, remember the scolding Amondo got?
“you don’t know what you’re talking about”
I think there were two crucial actions by Gase that killed his job and the dolphins, first Tannehill should have got the surgery right away, 2nd dumping Jay Ajayi. and i think Ajayi was the worst decision.
Ahhhhhh, Gase sucks! I hope he screws up Darnold! lol
i think there’s only one direction Darnold can go and that’s up, he’s very inaccurate….
reminds me of this guy i shot pool with one night…..
LOL! I was pretty good last year, you just didn’t show up
I read Gase stated one of the reasons he came to Miami was because of Tanny being here, not that Ross required that Gase keep him. Definitely nothing about those being terms of hire. Gase had control of the roster, and part of the reason he got fired was he wouldn’t give that up. How do those two concepts jive?
I don’t live in Miami. you guys that live there are closer to the source, so maybe that is the scuttlebutt around town? I certainly don’t recall that being in any of the major newspapers.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/saints-star-alvin-kamara-working-as-a-garbage-man/ar-BBSoaGs?li=BBnb7Kz
This is pretty awesome. On Tuesdays during the season Kamara worked as a garbage man. he even did it this last week. that is a down to earth kid right there. Love these kinds of stories.
He’s a cool dude
I knew he was a good RB, had no idea about his character. I’ll be rooting for him now.
Gotta say….I hate that nose thing he has. Now get off my lawn!
professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
January 17, 2019 at 4:57 am
Drafttek has us taking 6’4 340 DT Dexter Lawrence in the first, Anthony Nelson in the 2nd and Ta’amu in the 4th. Funny this is they had the Ta’amu pick before the meeting at the Shrine game practice.
I actually like these picks. They also have us taking Brumfield, the guard out of LSU, in the 3rd.
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I agree with Lou and Draftek. This would be a great draft for us, especially if we get Flores, as he would want a DL run like NE did when they featured Vince Wilfork, huge and yet still athletic.
Follow that up with a 6’6 260 DE in Nelson. Iowa U site lists him as 6’7 271. And a OG nicknamed “Bruiser” … yeah I like that draft. Ta’amu is a good QB to get in the 4th to see if he outplays his draft status or he could make a good back-up for the star we draft the next year.
More on Bruiser Brumfield OG from LSU
A veteran offensive lineman that will be looked to for leadership in the offensive huddle in 2018 … Started all 13 games at left guard in 2017 earning second team All-SEC honors … Nicknamed “Bruiser” for his punishing block style… Tremendous technician who excels equally in both run and pass blocking … One of the strongest players on the team … For career, has played in 36 games with a start in 13 games … Owns the most experience of any offensive lineman returning in 2018 with nearly 1,000 snaps.
Started all 13 games at left guard and helped pave the way for 1,000-yard rusher Derrius Guice … Second team All-SEC selection by the league coaches … Second on team in offensive snaps with 804 and knockdown blocks with 53.5
My earliest mock (with a lot of help from Draftek)
R1P13 Dexter Lawrence 6’4 340 Clemson DT / NT
R2P46 Anthony Nelson 6’7 271 Iowa DE
R3P80 Bruiser Brumfield 6’2 305 LSU OG
R4P116 Jordan Ta’amu 6’2 210 Ole Miss QB
R5P149 Jalen Jelks 6’6 245 Oregon Edge
R6P182 Matt Nelson 6’8 295 Iowa DT / DE
R7P217 Andrew Wingard 6’ 215 Wyoming S (ST) (RB)
My friend… Draftek is the very WORST! I’d rather see ya do a mock via anybody else! 😀
how so? I just use it as a Big Board of all the names. It’s a handy spreadsheet.
Lou and Naples, that’s a nice draft and it’s the design of the draft we need to follow, the names at those positions will get batted around, the beef is what we need. The only caveat for me is going for it for Haskins, I would love it quite honestly. Beyond that the plan in this draft is good.
I liked Rock’s all lineman draft he did earlier too. That one however requires us to get Dobbs!
You had Naples at Clemson anyway
Lol
At Clemson
I was watching ABC ‘Noise’, being they advertised the great-white shark “Deep Blue”. All we got was a slow-mo 5-second clip with divers around. SMMFH! 😡
I’m sorta wishing we dive in to rebuild on the trenches, especially on the OL. Throw in the wish of start Falk or Fales at QB with Drake and Ballage at RB…. then I say hire ORob as OC. Lots of running game there will be to be had, and maybe we can get Gore back too.
More seriously…. if you are doing that why not?
Stanger, EVERY rebuild must start in the trenches. And if it doesn’t, it’s a futile effort… or an orchestration of shiny, not mighty.
See our Phins in ’06… when little Peter King thought we’d make the Super Bowl. SHINY, we were. MIGHTY (in the trenches), we were NOT.
But not every rebuild comes with Orob calling the plays. 🙂
More on Bullygate aftermath. And I thought the bully would be the tough one. How about just get a hotel room?
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When Incognito learned of the Instagram post, he was so alarmed he fled from Scottsdale, Ariz., and drove with family members to a safe house two hours away to meet with an FBI agent, LAPD Detective Peter Doomanis testified at Wednesday’s preliminary hearing. “He described being in a state of panic. He was in fear,” Doomanis said .
Yeah… LOL
Look, can’t we all comprehend that BOTH Incognito and Martin had/have issues? It was the ‘Perfect Storm’, along with their O-Line coach, who was unprincipled, vile, and crude.
ALL had issues, so don’t take sides.
This was more of a reflection of Joe Philbin, who STEVE ROSS hired to be our HC… after he was spurned by everybody else he pursued to be our HC.
And now I can reflect on Adam Gase… who’s O-Line coach had a COCAINE problem. Steve Ross sure knows how to hire!
Draftek does the most accurate mock of anyone out there.
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Lou, why do you come here, after having disrespected this site via social media? You told your followers to NEVER come to this website, using very derogatory terms so as to make us look foolish. Yet, here you are again.
And I’m NOT saying that you’re not welcome here, but what gives?
I’ve always appreciated your insight on football.
Maybe he wants to save us for himself….
Naples, did you check out Brumfield. He’s a frickin beast. Have to see his interviews too. They’re good
He’s a mauler with impeccable technique.