We have an awful lot of time between now and the start of the season, and considering we haven’t seen anything in the way of actual football activities, why not come up with a possible depth chart with nothing to go on? We spend hours upon hours on potential draft picks, so now that we have some players on the roster, might as well throw them on a depth chart for fun! This is how I believe we may start the season, it’s understood more players will be added and subtracted by then . . .
OFFENSE
QB
Josh Rosen
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Jake Rudock
RB
Kenyan Drake
Kalen Ballage
Myles Gaskin
Kenneth Farrow
WR
DeVante Parker, Brice Butler
Kenny Stills, Isaiah Ford
Albert Wilson, Jakeem Grant
TE
Mike Gesicki
Dwayne Allen
Nick O’Leary
FB
Chandler Cox
LT
Laremy Tunsil, Jaryd Jones-Smith
LG
Michael Deiter, Isaac Asiata
C
Dan Kilgore, Chris Reed
RG
Jesse Davis, Connor Hilland
RT
Jordan Mills* , Isaiah Prince, Zach Sterup
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3-4 DEFENSE
LDE
Davon Godchaux, Tank Carradine
NT
Christian Wilkins, Durval Neto
RDE
Vincent Taylor, Akeem Spence
WLB
Jerome Baker, Quentin Poling
ILB
Raekwon McMillan, Chase Allen
ILB
Kiko Alonso, Mike Hull
SLB
Charles Harris, Andrew Van Ginkle
LCB
Xavien Howard, Cordrea Tankersley, Jalen Davis
RCB
Eric Rowe, Torry McTyer, Cornell Armstrong
FS
Minkah Fitzpatrick , Walt Aikens
SS
Reshad Jones, T.J. McDonald
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4-3 DEFENSE
LDE
Tank Carradine, Jonathan Woodard
LDT
Davon Godchaux, Vincent Taylor, Durval Neto
RDT
Christian Wilkins, Akeem Spence
RDE
Charles Harris, Tank Carradine
WOLB
Jerome Baker, Quentin Poling
MLB
Raekwon McMillan, Mike Hull
SOLB
Kiko Alonso, Chase Allen, Andrew Van Ginkle
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K
Jason Sanders
P
Matt Haack
PR
Kenyan Drake, Myles Gaskin, Jakeem Grant
KR
Kalen Ballage, Kenyan Drake, Jakeem Grant
LS
John Denney
Lots of things can change from now until the start of the season, but you have to start somewhere. Feel free to pick it apart, this is what I see as possible for now. It gives us something else to talk about at the very least
- Signed 1YR contract 5/9
#staythecourse
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steveccnv says:
May 8, 2019 at 10:49 am
I dont know much about Caldwell as a position coach, but he seemed to be a crappy head coach, so I’ll wait and see what value he brings to the team.
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Rockphin says:
May 8, 2019 at 11:07 am
yeah, I don’t get the narrative either. Another one who people call a QB whisperer. Peyton Freaking Manning the rest, not so much!
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On offense I think you reverse the following;
Fitzpatrick – Rosen
Allen – Gesicki
Sterup – Prince
On defense it is hard to say. We will probably START in the nickel! LOL
So Mike, do you think TJ McDonald will be gone or just behind Smith or Aikens?
LOL – I think he’ll be behind Reshad, I’ll fix it
He’ll also be on the field in nickel or dime situations as a LB/S
hey, that is cheating.
who is going to be the Long Snapper? You don’t think Mighty Might might be the punt returner? or KO returner?
Ugh! Your favorite will be the LS, the marked man himself
Jakeem definitely will be in the mix, but they didn’t trust him in big situations, it was always Amendola, who’s goners.
Mike E — what I found most interesting in that is you felt the need to put out both a 3-4 and 4-3 D. Haven’t even announced that, but yeah I see at it coming too as at least one formation. Wouldn’t be surprised if 3-3-5 is the one we use the most.
I’m sure you’re right on that one, because teams spend most of their time in nickel and dime situations, at least 60% or more.
An especially since TJ is a mni-LB and him, plus Reshad, Minkah, X and McCain are 5 of the best 11 players we can put on the field.
I thought I remember reading that the Pats used a nickel 90% of the time.
When we drafted Minkah and was looking into the 3 safety scheme the Pats were the top team that came up. And still have 3 pretty good ones.
Yep! That’s why Minkah was told by the new staff to continue learning all the positions because that’s what you’re going to do. Swiss Army knife of the secondary.
Its not about how many DBs are on the field, it’s about how many DL are on the field, or maybe I should how many have their hand in the ground, or or maybe the point is to confuse the O.
I think we may see some type of new D, or maybe just new to the Fins. I dont see a conventional NT in the formation much, even though i think we’ll use a 3 man front as our base D.
Seems this way because we dont have a true NT and we dont have anyone to sack from Edge. I think we’ll get our sacks from the element of surprise, is Harris blitzing, is Baker, is Kiko, is Raekwon, Van Ginkel…Jones, Minkah, TJ…
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Recently read that McDonald dropped 15 lbs. so he could play faster. The new staff might not have wanted him that big.
Doesn’t it feel GOOD to add FB to your list!
What happened at TE Mike?
I guess he’s leaving guys out he doesn’t think will make the team. Not sure.
Whatcha mean what what happened?
You don’t have Durham Smythe or Clive Walford on the list.
Man people make such a big deal out of stuff like this. We don’t have any rookie QBs for rookie minicamp so someone needs to throw the ball. LOL
https://caneswarning.com/2019/05/08/dolphins-crushed-for-bringing-in-former-miami-hurricanes-qb-malik-rosier/
Mike E,
Nice write as usual, man. One question: where does Vincent Taylor come in to play in our 4-3 D? I’m not trying to nitpick, but I think ya left him out.
Yeah, I did. He would probably be ahead of Neto. I missed that
Steve, just my thoughts at the top 3 on the depth chart. I didn’t count to see if I had 53, just a starting depth chart. We may choose to carry 4 TE’s, but I see those as the top right now.
THIS a pretty nice! Someone took the time to redo the epic fight scene between Vader and Kenobi in Episode IV. This is what it should have looked like in order to make it modern. I LIKE!!!
Check it out before it gets taken down by Lucas Film!
Mike E. says:
May 8, 2019 at 11:50 am
I’m sure you’re right on that one, because teams spend most of their time in nickel and dime situations, at least 60% or more.
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Travis Wingfield did a nice breakdown of every play run by the Pat’s D last season and the position groupings. I found it interesting.
https://www.lockedondolphins.com/dolphins/ideal-lineups-for-the-2019-miami-dolphins-1-0-post-draft/
That’s excellent stuff right there.
Tim Knight says:
May 8, 2019 at 12:54 pm
You don’t have Durham Smythe or Clive Walford on the list.
MikeE only has eyes for Gesicki that’s why.
😉
He better really step it up this season. He can’t be a no show like he was last season. He seems like he’s been working hard, put on some good weight and muscle, but he still has to play with more nasty.
I think he will. He has said he wants to be a complete TE and will be working hard on his past weaknesses. He wasn’t really asked to be an in-line blocker in college so he only really started working on those skills last season.
His biggest weakness last season (IMO) was he would constantly get knocked off his route and wouldn’t be where he was supposed to be when the timing was right.
Do you guys agree with Alonso inside with Raekwon in the 3-4? I was flip-flopping him between inside and outside. He can do either. I’m also curious to see if/how Charles Harris plays standing up at OLB in the 3-4. Do you guys see him succeeding at that? I sure hope so, I don’t know what else he can do if he can’t do that well enough.
I see Alonso and Baker moving around playing both inside and outside based on formations. Harris has to produce both standing up and hand in the ground on the edge. That’s what he is. If he can’t be productive doing that he won’t be here long.
I think Baker will be in nickel and some dime formations too, but do you see Baker inside in a base 3-4? We really need to get pass rush out of our LB’s this season, especially in the 3-4. I also hope Talylor comes back healthy, I really liked the way he was playing last season. You could argue he was one of our best DL.
Not sure yet where guys will play the majority of the time.
Agreed on Taylor, at one point he was playing like one of the best DL on the team before he went down.
I see Kiko being more on the inside.
So Omar has already labeled Josh Rosen New Bae. Remember Tannehill was Sho’nuff. SMH
Man does he hate white QB’s. It’s reverse discrimination! I wanted Haskins, but damn, I’m not going to hate Rosen like Rock and Omar. Ooooh, that has to hurt Rock, huh? lol
It’s condescending.
Tim Knight says:
May 8, 2019 at 12:28 pm
I thought I remember reading that the Pats used a nickel 90% of the time.
It was actually 53% of the snaps. 1001 total defensive snaps. 533 in the nickle
NICKEL – 42 personnel (4 DL, 2 LBs, 5 DBs) – 307 Snaps
NICKEL – 33 personnel (3 DL, 3 LBs, 5 DBs) – 226 Snaps
Nickel wasn’t the right word, the amount of snaps with 5 or more DBs on the field. I never added it up or anything. It’s something I read. But that link you posted is good stuff and those are the numbers.
then you were technically right. 86% of the time had 5 or more DB’s.
Maybe I read it from Travis Wingfield. LOL
That was a great article by Travis. He really dug in and goes into great depth. Very impressive.
Gesicki played at 240 last year and said he’s 253 now. Playing that light at 6-6 probably had a lot to do with his struggles.
that and I think technique has a lot to do with it. Getting past the jamb at the line, hand fighting, etc. He wasn’t taught how in college. HOPEFULLY the new TE coaches can teach him up.
Agreed.
Mike, I do not hate Rosen.
I hope he succeeds and becomes the next great QB. I will joyfully admit I was wrong if that were to happen. I just didn’t want him or think he is the answer.
I get that he wasn’t your choice, he wasn’t mine either. I choose to look at it that at least they addressed the position. We haven’t had the right guy at QB for far too long, so recognizing that and acting on it was what I was looking for. I didn’t want Rosen in the draft last year, and I really wanted Haskins this season, but I’m happy he’s here because he might be the answer. He definitely has the smarts and the talent, let’s see if they can bring it out.
for the record I don’t hate Omar either (I just don’t like agreeing with him. LOL)
I don’t hate Omar either but he annoys me. LOL
By the way, the study I posed above was posted by Travis but it was compiled by Locked On Dolphins Writer Kevin Dern
I just went back and did the math and NE used their “base” defense 12% of the time. Like a lot of people on here have said. the Nickel is really the base now-a-days.
Yep! It’s because of all the 3 WR sets teams use these days.
Today is the first day that FA’s do not impact the compensatory pick formula so expect to see some movement pick up in free agency. I haven’t really seen anything but it should pick up now.
DT Ndamukong Suh
DE Ezekiel Ansah
RB Jay Ajayi
S Eric Berry
S Tre Boston
WR Michael Crabtree
DT Corey Liuget
DE Muhammad Wilkerson
OLB Derrick Morgan
LB Jamie Collins
CB Morris Claiborne
are available without losing a comp pick now.
Damn, I feel like David on the old FMExoduss talking mostly to myself today.
Rockphin says:
May 8, 2019 at 10:36 am
Rob, are you going to lose faith in Flores when they trot out Drake on first downs again this year?
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What do you mean “again” ??? he lost his starting job last year to Gore.
There I fixed it
RB
Myles Gaskin
Kalen Ballage
Kenyan Drake
Kenneth Farrow
Bowling ball loving sonofagun! You see #21 when you look at Gaskins, dontcha???
Fixed this also
TE
Nick O’Leary
Dwayne Allen
Mike Gesicki
Sheesh, I freaking hope not!
I don’t hate anybody, and that includes Omar. I used to look at Omar like somebody who knew the game of football… and he does to a limited extent, in retrospect. I now look at him as a SHOCK JOCK, or a classic BS artist.
And I don’t care for his racial politics. He truly is LOST. I’ve an internet friend who has been working on him for YEARS regarding his racial politics… Omar isn’t budging an inch.
Omar is a proud fool… but he’ll always have a place in my heart for helping to bring us all together. Maybe one day he’ll finally grow up and become the man he’s supposed to become. He’s certainly blessed with much charisma, natural talent for the radio and TV, and deep down in his soul a decent man.
Collins had a nice season last year for CLE. I have no idea what salary he’s looking for, he made over $10M last season, which is probably too rich for us. He could be a nice player for us, one that Flores is familiar with.
I never hated Omar. He’s a sensationalist, which is how he chooses to get clicks. I enjoyed meeting him, I thought he was pretty cool with us on our blog when we were there, and he was cool in person. It wasn’t his fault the paywall went up. We’d probably still be there if it didn’t.
I believe this team will be a run first oriented team,, Drake can not run Btwn the tackles so there is no way he starts, i think the most logical choice is the rookie, you can plug a rookie in at RB right away, he’s low to the ground and possesses power,
with this run mind set you would also want a blocking TE which Nick O’Leary is, he was great last year at blocking and catching, he’s also the grand son of Jack Nicholas.
I think we will be a run first team too, I think we need to be. It covers up O-line pass blocking issues, wears down the D-line, gives the QB a better chance to succeed. If we put it all on the QB like Gase did, expect similar results
I dont even think you’ll win that bet with an inquiry😉
Unless the convo is about DBs/LBs getting on the field, why does it matter how often a team is in nickel? Specifically how does it affect DL?
I dont understand the point of why people talk about it? Someone please splain for me?
I guess it’s a matter of the personnel you use, whether it’s a 3 or 4 man front, and then which personnel you use for either one.
So when we’re talking about what front will be used, what relevance does it have to say a team ran nickel 90% of the time?
More specifically, we’d be talking about using 3 or 4 DL in the base D, then someone would say well we were in the nickel 70% of the time last year. Sure we’ll be using 3 and 4 man fronts, but one will be used much more often. Last year I dont remember seeing a 3 man front to often, if at all.
Rock – I feel like Mike E. on FMU, replying to all these comments like a reply whore.
Steve – Not sure what you’re getting at? It’s going to be a few different combos of DT’s, DE’s, LB’s, S’s and CB’s. Trying to figure out who will be in what configuration is what we’re doing.
What I’m getting at is, if you’re going to use a 3 man front for 90% of the snaps, what difference does it make to the DL how often you’re in nickel?
It does matter, because you will likely see differen’t packages in the nickel and dime on the DL, some “speed” packages, and maybe some more beef on the 3 man DL formations. Otherwise, it’s the same discussion as the personnel in the 3-4 or 4-3, if that’s what you mean.
To further answer the questions about TE, I also considered that if we’re carrying a FB, we may carry one less TE.
Yeah we get that, but does that mean 4 instead of 5 or 3 instead of 4?
I guess we’ll see. I chose 3, but we sure do have a lot of TE’s in camp, so maybe it will be more TE’s than WR. To be perfectly honest, I didn’t spend weeks here trying figure this out, I just spent a couple of hours putting this together for discussion purposes. Iwasn’t really trying to be “Dead on balls accurate” 🙂
So far, so good. Keep up the good work Phins front office.
MF13,
That modern Obi/Darth fight is awesome. I have unilaterally decided to declare it canon, and now it shall be how I imagine the fight whenever I watch Star Wars.
I guess I should call it Obi/Vader fight since Darth is more of a title.
Ha Ha! ME TOO, Brother! I REALLY liked that!
He who created that video did a really good job of ‘face replacement’, for lack of better words. Good tech at work in that video, except for the lip-syncing… which I can easily overlook for a GREAT scene.
Mike – why isn’t grant returning kicks or punts?
He probably will, I answered this earlier. It seemed they didn’t trust him in important spots, they went with Amendola, but he’s explosive, so he will be in the mix.
I tend to think he’s the number 1 kick returner and probably returner too
Did you forget
Wait, is that Lord Piggius?
Darth Piggius
Don’t know how you can type while I am force choking you
Is this thing working?
why not? He types one handed while choking it all the time……
WOW!!! Nimmo just made a real beauty of a catch. Too early to put a replay.
If we’re going to run 2-TE or even 3 as part of our offense we’ll need depth if someone goes down.
Mike, did you see that Alonso blast last night? That man has amazing power.
Yes! That was a rocket!
Was that his first pull HR of the year? All the ones I’ve seen were right field, right-center or center.
If we end up with Sterup at RT we’re in trouble. He’s Colombo 2.0.
In any case, I just took a look at the guys on the roster again at offensive line positions and, man, we’re loaded. I admit, RT looks a bit thin, but there’s a ton of talent there unlike anything we’ve had in a long time. Depth should be fantastic.
Gotta find that starting 5 and hope they play together for more than a game or two.
I agree. But, wow, they’ve got some beasts on this line.
I think we’re going to play a more physical style than the zone we’ve been running but we’ll see.
Tim – Not sure – I haven’t seen them all, or if I did, I don’t remember. He does he hit a lot to center or left or right center.
Watch the expressions of the fans behind the plate. LOL
https://www.mlb.com/news/pete-alonso-answers-feud-with-449-foot-homer
That’s Rob’s #1 RB sir! lol
I see RB Kenneth Farrow was a UDFA and PS guy for the Pats in 2017. Not surprised he’s getting a chance in Miami.
Tim – I feel bad for J.D. Davis. He’s going to be sent down to AAA because Frazier is back and they added a pitcher. I think he deserves to be here more than Todd Frazier. It may be coincidental, but since Frazier got here, the bats went silent.
Frazier is a good guy and all but he’s basically an automatic out.
Mike I remember that putz Nimmo, when he was here in triple A, he couldn’t hit his weight😀
We have a real triple A team now, Oaklands team.
LOL – Nimmo’s not hitting much now at the moment, but he had a great season last year. He’s earned some rope because of that
He hit pretty well last year but has struggled this season.
Wow, the lack of production from the ends really jumps out at me when I see it written down. This should be interesting. I can see why they were looking at bringing guys like Nick Perry in for a look.
Sorta happens when you lose 3 of your 4 top DEs. And drafting Ginkel but not a DE has to make you think 3-4 or something more exotic. And DTs are so deep the 3 up front wouldn’t be tough at all.
Did you see Rock’s post on the breakdown of the Pats formation percentages earlier? Only 12% base defense and 86% 5 DBs or more. Now some of that had to do with game situations and Pats had leads quite a bit. But it’s interesting.
Yay, we gots a Fullback!!!!
LOL at feel free to pick it apart! Without reading any comments I’m sure they already have!
Thanks again Mike E!
#staythecourse
It’s pretty hard to pick it apart because none of us know enough yet about the rest of the offseason and who the 90 will be heading into TC.
Tim/stanger,
Yeah, I was just struck by seeing how few sacks we have in those players. I can see them trying to duplicate what NE does. That is kinda the multiple thing. Our players still need to learn and execute it. Long way off.
Real early in the process. We have a million LBs on the roster and we’re light on prototype 4-3 DEs so at this point it looks like pass rush will have to come from stunting and blitzing. We don’t have a premier pass rusher.
Think gonna be one big mess on D this year…. and mean that scheme-wise. But as they figure it out, might be true in the other sense of that too. 🙂
Stanger, I think what will happen is the coaches will keep it simple early on “bread and butter” stuff and then as players get more up to speed you add more wrinkles. Both sides of the ball.
Thanks ER! No vicious rips but I did leave a couple of players out. I was concentrating so hard on trying to put out the most realistic 4-3 and 3-4 options, I left out ST’s at first, and I also accidentally omitted Vincent Taylor from the 4-3. Oh well. lol
Should we sign Danny Shelton?
I haven’t really gotten a feel of how we’re approaching this free agency period but my guess would be no. I think they may just want to see what we have first. Bigger guys like Durval Neto, Kendrick Norton and Jamiyus Pittman, let em mix it up a bit, and see where they stand
Godchaux and Wilkins are both 315 so I could see us using multiple players at NT when they use one. That position is not as important as it once was with all the spread stuff being used. Would love to see Neto be one of those sleepers from an unusual route to the NFL.
I would agree with Tim. It’ll be pretty basic stuff. That usually means stopping the run, to me. The interesting thing about NE though was that they weren’t very good at holding backs to a low average. They just kept people from actually running the ball. They were 6th at ATTs/game against them but 29th in yards per attempt….not very good. But, they were 4th in scoring offense. Teams can’t run on you if they are constantly trying to keep up with your scoring. We probably won’t have that luxury. We still need to start stopping the run.
The Pats didn’t have great personnel on defense and they were kind of slow but they always seemed to make timely plays. They held opponents to 20 or less points 8 times and with their offense they’re winning those games which they did.
They did give up some big runs which is what hurt their stats. Even Brandon Bolden hit them for a 54 yard TD run for us. LOL
I hear people talk about Durval Neto. I thought this was a training deal where if they put him on the practice squad in the International Player Pathway Program spot then he is not eligible to play or be pulled up to the 53. The only way he can play in games is if he makes the 53 or is put on the regular practice squad roster and not under the International Player Pathway Program spot.
If he makes the 53 he can play just like any other player. If we put him on the PS he can’t be called up in 2019. He’s an inactive 11th PS player for the year.
I always felt they feed off each other.
Are we all surprised that there has been almost zero rush of FA signings?
I’m not and I’m thrilled
We’re not panicking in anything we do. The Rosen trade was a great example of that. I’m ready to call Chris Grier Mr. Cool. LOL
As far as offensive line is concerned we’re set at LT, C and more than set at guard. The biggest ? is RT at this time because Sterup can’t start.
I keep saying he’ll be lucky to make the team. Hilland is an absolute beast. Reed is a beast. Dunn is a beast. Anderson is a beast. We can definitely find four starters out of what we’ve got.
If anything, it’s possible they keep their eyes out for a RT with more cuts to come or they use some draft capital from next year to trade for someone .
Other than that, I’m pretty positive that, not only will we have four fifth’s of the o -line solved with solid players but also be in better shape than we were last year; especially with the depth we’re going to have.
No sense in beating a dead horse.
Tim,
your 7:02 comment above is exactly why I’m not worried about our D.
On the line we’ve got Godchaux and Taylor from last year with Spence on the rotation plus our new addition Wilkins.
At LB, we have Kiko, Baker and McMIllan returning
At DB, we’ve got X, Jones, TJ and Minkah returning and signed Rowe.
Plus, we’ve got some good quality special teams contributors on the team.
If we can get some good play from Carradine that helps. The biggest ? is pass rush, whether it be from DE or pass rush specialist/OLB.
But, it’s not like there’s no talent there. There’s a lot of talent and a few holes. We don’t have huge holes all over our D. And then some of the young guys look really promising.
Lou, Hilland is Russ Grimm.
That would be awesome!
professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
May 8, 2019 at 8:38 pm
As far as offensive line is concerned we’re set at LT, C and more than set at guard…
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I can’t get behind you on this, Lou… other than we’re set at LT.
Daniel Kilgore was a significant downgrade from Mike Pouncey and he’s in his 30s, while we’re anything but “set” at Guard.
I agree with you on our RT situation, which is our most glaring weakness on the O-Line.
I’ve tried to believe we were set on the OL too many times to fall for it again, but QB play will go a long way to making the OL look competent.
Remember: the O-Line must BOTH pass-protect and run-block. If we can run-block, I think we’ve won half the battle.
We were 3-0 with Kilgore (30 years old in 2018) at C until we got walloped in NE and he went down for the year in that game – game 4. Sitton (32 years old) going down in game one sucked!. Lost two OL starters in the first 4 games. Not sure why that gets ignored over and over. Do you think every OL in the league is under 30? Go look at last year’s Rams OL.
Lou, the fact is we have quality players in all phases of the defense. Yes many are young but that shouldn’t be a negative or the draft means nothing. We’re not expecting a top contending team so any holes is not a big deal. Get what you have up to speed and play through it. Then when we add pieces in the next couple of years a bunch of players already know what’s going on. It’s part of the building process.
So many people just can’t wrap their head around it. We don’t have this, we don’t have that. Yeah so? I thought we were tanking and now we don’t have enough to contend. You see how the media plays both sides?
Just because we got rid of old high priced players, doesn’t mean we cant win a lot of games and therefore are rebuilding. The term rebuild is for losers, and anyone that doesn’t want to be held accountable. This is a QB driven league, you get very good QB play and anything can happen.
Having a bad 2019 record doesn’t make 2020 a better team. I’d rather have a good record and build off of that in 2020. You go thru a rebuild and by the time the young’ins are growed up you have to pay them, so what’s the point.
I don’t want to be the Browns for 6 years.
Our D can be pretty good, the O is very good QB play and an RT away from being pretty good. I dont expect anything this year, but it’s not a given we’ll be drafting first. No one in the Fins building is saying we’re going to play all the rookies even if they dont be long on the field.
The wildcard this year will be the coaching staff, put players in position to succeed and they just might.
Sorry, I think I just had a Tim moment, must be a full moon or something. Maybe watching the Underworld.
Stevie baby, it’s all good. That’s what I’m saying. We’re not void of talent to build on. I don’t expect us to be bad this year and I think in 2020 teams might not want play us. So there! LOL
nobody is going to see it coming
mf13ss says:
May 8, 2019 at 10:42 pm
Remember: the O-Line must BOTH pass-protect and run-block. If we can run-block, I think we’ve won half the battle.
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mf gets the big DUH award for this one. lol.
when I look at the guys on the line right now I see no finesse. looks like a lot of power here but these guys are big and they are beasts. but one thing that’s going to help a lot is good qb play. recognizing where the pressure is going to come from and also being able to use your feet to avoid it and Rosen showed a lot of that last year.
just think if he didn’t have the pocket presence and the ability to move around like he showed how many sacks he would have had against him. would have been a lot more than 45. the overall offensive scheme will help as well.
but, I really feel we could go into the season with a starting four, at least, of Tunsil, Deiter, Kilgore and Dunn with the RT being the only ? and be good with that and when you look at what we’ve got in depth it’s just head and shoulders above what we’ve had before. I’m sorry but it seemed like zero thought went into the o line in the past; especially with depth and I don’t see that to be the case right now.
I’m just saying I’m not expecting us to play like the Keystone Cops this year like some people think we’re going to play. We are not completely void of talent and I think the coaching staff will make a big difference, even in it’s first year.
I’m not saying I expect us to win 12 games and take the division either. I’m just saying is that the starting point going into the 2020 offseason isn’t going to be as grim as some are predicting. When I look at the players on this roster right now I see something we can build with going forward.
OK ignore players per se for a minute.
What do we need to do to give ourselves a chance?
Be one of the least penalized teams.
Stop the DB breakdowns and the vacant middle scenarios on D.
Game plan to stop the other team instead of just trying to run our plays with no emphasis on their weaknesses.
Also
Start faster, so we are not always hindered in our playcalling.
Quit lining up in shotgun every 3rd down and less than 5.
Quit throwing bubble screens from trips since even a third grader can see that coming.
Discover what a TE, FB, and stunting pass rush are good for. (Redundant, but GASE never listened)
You guys are boring me so I decided to post this:
Click to access SAM-Lessons-Learned-From-Marijuana-Legalization-Digital.pdf
So they’re saying there’s a direct correlation between youth who used it and suicide?
Looks like a study paid for by pharma
obviously slanted against. report produced by “Sam preventing another big tobacco”
Pro Football Focus
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@PFF
A recent Twitter discussion over whether pass-rush or coverage was more important sparked a deep dive into the PFF database…
I went back and finally read this post from above. It is a VERY long article that comes the the conclusion of Meh?
from a football standpoint this is the worst part of the year. no more draft, limited FAcy, just sit and wait for 3 months until our 1st preseason game.
SUCKS!
You get to watch the Marlins!
wow cant wait!
I admire the enthusiasm here, and I’m definitely not trying to be a downer. I do think we’re going to struggle this season. I think every team in our division improved in the off season. The Patriots are the Patriots until they’re proven otherwise. The Bills are in year 2 with their QB and they definitely upgraded the defense with Ed Oliver and picked up a nice OL in Cody Ford. The jets made a smart move in acquiring Kelechi Osemele from the raiders as well as getting possibly the best player in the draft Quinnen Williams and of course picking up Le’Veon Bell. I know they have Gase which could hurt them , but they were smart getting Gregg WIlliams to run the defense, a huge weakness for Gase. We have a new HC, new QB, new system on both offense and defense, and it might take some time for it to get moving smoothly. I think we have some talent here, but the O-line, DE’s and possibly even CB’s could be a weakness for us.
Got an oinking trial today
Nervous 🐷
Are you guilty? LOL
we could start out 4-1, we have 4 out of 5 home games at 1pm, and we have help in those games, this team trains in S Fl heat, it’s something that someone has to get use to. if you are not use to it the onset of heat stroke takes over.
this is the reason we have been the most winningest team in sept
we could start out 1-4 with the new scheme, new players and systems and the lack of depth in the trenches.
Lou, I don’t get what you are saying about the O-line above. you give MF-13 a “big duh” but your post deserves just as big a “duh”
you say a couple of times that “these guys are big and are beasts” I ask, compared to what? they are all 300 – 320lb guys (just like the rest of the NFL’s offensive linemen. Asiata at 345 is the biggest beast on the oline and he hasn’t been able to break into the lineup in 3 years.
Jesse Davis is the next biggest “beast” he is 325. most of the rest are all 300-310 just like every other teams olines.
Where is this depth you are talking about? Asiata? Dun? Davis? Reed? Deiter? what have any of them proved? not one of them is a “beast”
The battle between Sterup, 6th round Prince and Jaryd Jones-Smith with his rebuilt knee looks really exciting (Rolling eyes)
our “starting center” is 31 years old and has played one full season in the last 5. (35 games out of a possible 80) and his backup is 1st year Connor Hilland out of William and Mary…..
any other depth at center is a slash guy.
This line is a mess and a mash unit waiting to happen.
He said if we can run block we’re half way there. That’s a given since the only other thing is pass blocking
And it was a joke
Shoot, just looked up when Tank’s ACL injury was last year, it happened Nov 2nd. To expect him to be ready by seasons start is foolish. He will probably be on IR with a chance to return by game 8, IF he even makes the roster. I hope he does.
that does blow. It MAY be the end of him here. He really needs to be up to speed in the new Defense with the new terminology to compete and he will be way behind the other guys (even with mental reps sitting and watching)
Rob – Are you happy with Jeter? Just curious . . .
baseball is a funny business….we traded yelich for a half eaten bag of peanuts. not sure if this is just a way of making money for the ownership or do they plan to compete?
the Marlins have won two WS since entering the league, i believe they entered the league in 1993, the Mets have the same WS wins and have been around since the early sixtys.
the marlins win the WD then dump their payroll, they did it twice, will they make another run? not sure?? it behooves them to keep their payroll low and skim off the revenue sharing money. winning to them is how much $$ they made last year, can’t blame them..
baseballs dirty little secret, keep payroll low and make money vs trying to win.
not sure how people buy into that crap, i played baseball as a youth but will not watch a baseball game, i have lost interest.
Rockphin says:
May 9, 2019 at 9:41 am
we could start out 1-4 with the new scheme, new players and systems and the lack of depth in the trenches.
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spoken like a true 80 man
#RDS
Mike can you tell me which baseball team is undefeated in the post season? which team has never lost a series in the post season in baseball???
1976 Reds
i’m talking all time…never in their history have they lost a playoff series.
oh, a series, not a game in a series.
Nope
Ah, I saw game 4 of that WS at Yankee Stadium, it was freezing outside, we were all the way in the upper deck. The fans tore the place apart, including the field. People were walking out with boxes and bags of turf, anything they could rip off. It was pretty screwed up. I didn’t realize they didn’t lose any games in their other series though.
i’m not sure we’re that void of talent as opposed to last year, what did quinn or wake really accomplish? we were horrible at getting to the qb. we just lost a lot of dead weight this year, we still have grant…wilson…stills… parker…looking for big things from ballage…are we better at QB…? that remains to be seen. as for the RT position, a proper scheme can help the OL, plug the best player you have there and give him help with some chipping and some power running.
the biggest change for this team is the philosophy of the new coaching staff, not sure how it could be worse than last year, i think we will at least be as good as the 7 wins last year if not better.
ocalarob says:
May 9, 2019 at 9:54 am
which team has never lost a series in the post season in baseball???
answer = MIAMI MARLINS, they have only been to the postseason twice, from the wildcard spot, and both times went on to win all their series plus the WS, the first against the indians…the 2nd against the yanks.
I thought you mean they never lost a game in post season.
and like you said both times after dumping salaries.
I was at a strip club during the 2nd run, I forget which game it was because I don’t give a crap about baseball, but the game was on in the club and NONE of the dancers were “working” they were all standing around watching the game.
I would ask one to dance for me and I would get a distracted answer “in a minute” LOL
I finished my drink and left.
You should have done what Joe Pesci did to Michael Imperioli in Goodfellas. lol
Why would I shoot a stripper in the foot?
How am I funny? You mean like a clown?
Doesn’t Rookie mini camp start today?
Yes
it’s probably boring shit like set a routine, get to meetings on time, be careful of people trying to get your money, stuff they need to hear but that is not exciting to us fans.
ocalarob says:
May 9, 2019 at 9:54 am
Mike can you tell me which baseball team is undefeated in the post season? which team has never lost a series in the post season in baseball???
I thought this question was rhetorical, more of duh question, since that seems to be the theme of the day.
Thanks for pointing that out, I can always depend on you for stupid opinions
No, no, you said it. Do I amuse you?
Rock – What you’re describing is the NFL Rookie Symposium. The mini camp is strictly football activities.
is it? I thought I remember last season or the season before Gase using it as “Growth” lessons. I may be wrong. (I’m told I usually am, LOL)
Yes, now they actually call it something else, “NFL Rookie Transition Program”
https://operations.nfl.com/the-players/development-pipeline/nfl-rookie-transition-program/
Pfffffftt!
I hope this guy get’s his head straight and can make an impact for the Dolphins in the future.
Him and Cox are the two guys on offense I am rooting for as early camp starts
Chandler Cox
Alain Poupart
@apoupartFins
Dolphins are NOT practicing tomorrow. Minicamp starts Friday.
16h
Oh, they report today, but camp doesn’t start until tomorrow.
Maybe they just fill out their Delaney cards and take attendance. Does anyone here remember Delaney cards?
I had to google it. That is a NY state thing. We southerners have never heard of it.
ESPN’s Football Power Index on the 2020 draft. Guessing this is gonna get screwed up when hit reply, but first percentage is for #1 #1 and the 2nd for a top 5 pick.
TEAM NO. 1 CHANCE TOP-FIVE CHANCE
Arizona Cardinals 16% 53%
Miami Dolphins 14% 50%
Cincinnati Bengals 11% 43%
Giants 10% 41%
Washington 9% 38%
Buffalo Bills 6% 31%
Buccaneers 6% 30%
Oakland Raiders 5% 29%
New York Jets 4% 23%
Detroit Lions 4% 24%
I don’t think that’s too far from being correct. At least at this point. We might take off earlier than expected, but it could easily be a struggle for a while until things fall into place, if they fall into place.
I’ll guess we end up picking at #7. And unlike some am hoping for that high. Will see it as a sign that the new system is working and Flores taking care of things.
ESPN always ranks us at the bottom of the league every year in the off season and we always end up in the middle of the pack. (not saying it will be the case this season, but that has been history)
This year we went total rebuild though. Talked about i the past, but that was just the faux type.
Rock – No kidding? I had no idea, I just thought all school kids those, at least those that went to public schools and not religious schools or private schools.
I’m a public school kid 1975-1987 and I never heard of them. I had to google search WTH they were. It seems They were developed by Edward C. Delaney, a graduate of Harvard University and history teacher at DeWitt Clinton High School in New York City and they took off in NY
There you have it. I would guess not another soul on this blog would have known what I was talking about. I feel so alone.
steveccnv says:
May 9, 2019 at 10:48 am
How am I funny? You mean like a clown?
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SPEAKING OF CLOWNS… PENNYWISE IS BACK:
Great! Looking forward to it!
SAME!
Nice!
There’s potentially our RT. Good job, gives Prince time to get a little stronger and more prepared.
That’s what this signing appears to be.
there is your first mid-level post 5/8 FA
Mike, I think we’ll have ups and downs this season and I don’t expect a winning season. I just don’t think we’ll be an awful team.