Mandatory mini camp begins June 4th. Reshad Jones who was very unhappy at the end of last season, apparently having some miscommunication (lack of communication?) with then HC Adam Gase, seems to still be harboring resentment for the team as he he’s been absent for all voluntary OTA’s. I don’t view that as nothing. He’s supposed to be a leader on this team, he’s the celebrated grizzly veteran, so why skip an opportunity to meet new teammates and get an idea what the new HC is all about? We’ll see if Reshad is present next week, and we may also see where his head is at if he does show up. Does he want to be a part of this team, or does he wish to be elsewhere? Reshad has been a good player for our team over 9 seasons, making 2 pro bowls. He’s a playmaker, snagging 21 INT’s and also scoring 6 TD’s, 4 on INT returns and 2 on fumble recoveries.
I was scanning NFL rosters trying to find a good fit for Reshad. Green Bay just recently added S Adrian Amos at FS, but have young, inexperienced and unhappy SS Josh Jones, who has requested to be traded. Josh Jones was drafted in RD 2 in 2017, and wants out, so why not replace him with a guy who may bring that defense exactly what it needs? You can also say why would GB want another ingrate on their team, and can they even afford to pay Reshad Jones? This is where we’d have to be creative and pay a large part of Reshad’s salary in order to acquire a higher pick in next year’s draft. The Packers are in cap hell right now, and it would make little sense to pick up Josh Jones in exchange for Reshad, unless were high on Josh Jones and could possibly steal an additional pick in the exchange.
The Kansas City Chiefs picked up Tyrann Mathieu, and they currently have him paired with former Miami Dolphins safety Jordan Lucas. Lucas is fine as a depth player, but if they want to really add a piece to that defense, pair Reshad Jones and Tyrann Mathieu together in that secondary. Now you’re talking! KC does have some cap space but I expect once again we’d have to pay some of Reshad’s salary in order to acquire a higher pick, as we did in previous trades already. KC is desperate, or at least should be desperate to improve that awful defense, and shoring up the run and pass defense with an excellent pair of safeties like Mathieu and Jones would help.
The New Orleans Saints could be another destination for Reshad. They are also on the cusp of a championship, and although the defense improved last season, it could use a nice boost of a playmaking veteran safety. Von Bell who was a 2016 2nd RD pick isn’t that guy, so the Saints pick up Reshad for future draft capital and really improve their defense. That would pair Jones with up and coming FS Marcus Williams, also drafted in RD 2, but in 2017. Williams has snagged 6 INT’s in 2 seasons with the Saints, and he could probably do more knowing he has the tackling machine and playmaking SS next to him. The Saints have zero cap space, so we would need to pay much of Reshad’s salary, and I think we can do that. We need to re-sign LT Laremy Tunsil which will take a chink of space, but we should have plenty of space available, especially once we rid ourselves of Reshad’s contract and others that will be coming off the books.
Let me know if you think Reshad will be on our 2019 roster in September, or if you think we trade him. If you think we trade him, let me know where you think that might be.
GO DOLPHINS
#staythecourse
Finsmob Unleashed 
After skipping the majority of the Miami Dolphins’ voluntary workouts, veteran Reshad Jones showed up for the first day of mandatory minicamp on Tuesday, which concludes the team’s offseason program.
Jones, a two-time Pro Bowl safety who has started 109 games in his eight seasons with the Dolphins, had his shoulder surgically repaired in February and has spent the offseason rehabbing the injury.
“He was excited and eager to get into meeting and practice. I’m looking forward to working with him,” coach Brian Flores said. “He’s got quite a lot of experience. He’s someone who can play quite a lot of roles.”
Jones has been training with David Alexander, who owns DBC Fitness, which trains a number of professional athletes, including NBA superstar LeBron James.
sun sentinel 1 hour ago
Reshad Jones forfeited a $100,000 workout bonus check for missing the voluntaries
but he spent his own money getting world class training from a guy that works with Lebron
thats serious commitment, hes spending his own money to make himself better, with world class training,
and some think hes a practice skipping malcontent?
Great, he showed up. It’s not like the NFL of old. These guys have limited opportunities to learn new schemes and responsibilities so even voluntary workouts are important. The teams do these workouts for a reason, right?
It’s good that he stayed in shape, but then never was a doubt in my mind that he was planning on playing in the NFL this year. Are you thinking that being the only one not showing up for the voluntary practices shows more commitment to the team than being there?
Exactly Stanger – Him working out by himself with his own special trainer means he’s definitely committed – to himself. The team, not so much. He has a clean slate now, let’s see what he does from here on.
I don’t blame him all that much. If I was him would want to play for another team. But then I would want to play for a contender and the Phins can ship him off to say Arizona. Given that money is not an issue….. that might be what made him show up.
SMH all of our WR are soft
he better not slack. Preston Williams will take his job
its true
It’s arrogant!
Let’s see if he’s out of position half of the time again this year?
safeties have to have attitude, and he does
o leary and williams are tough, both may find a job here
the rest of them get injured thinking too hard, injury prone
Jones wants to be the best at his craft and believes he knows best for him to accomplish that, not some team doctor. He benefits and so does the team….and he’s paying for it. Smart guy and I see nothing wrong with that. It’s business.
r-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-g-h-t. So what if he doesn’t know what his responsibility is in a specific situation, he’s the best, he’s a smart guy who knows better than his coaches. ::sigh::
Maybe, Mike E. There’s plenty of time for him to get up to speed, don’t you think.
Ignored my point though.
The voluntary workouts aren’t about getting into superb shape it’s getting to know your coaches, their ideas, and also your new teammates and what’s expected of you. I think your point is that Reshad can do no wrong in your book. Great players don’t usually say how great they are, other people say it. What leads you to believe he’s so intelligent? I’m not saying he’s not, but just curious what it is that makes you think that way.
this is hilarious. LMAO
Giants fans react to Daniel Jones with the 6th pick
daniel jones with the 6th pick is just retarded.
the giants could have had josh allen at 6
If he turns out to be a quality starting QB the pick was worth it. If he’s not a good QB it was a bad pick.
its a horrible peak regardless, Jones could have been traded down for, Allen wasnt
I guess the Billion dollar company that has a bunch of Million Dollar employee’s can’t find a good doctor?
If it walks like a duck………………..
what does the word voluntary mean? he was there for the first voluntary workout to learn the players and coaches
the team isnt penaliing him , because there isnt anything wrong with working out and getting ready for the season
No but he may be penaliing the team is the point every one is trying to get out there!
It’s not about contractual, right and wrong!
It’s about team first VS Me first!
Didn’t Grant, and Wilson, and some others show up to start learning the new playbook?
Even though they are not released for full contact yet?
I thought we were trying to get rid of that type of attitude????????
Takes No Talent to show up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
google voluntary , and that should explain what Im saying
the team isnt penalizing him, nor do i need too, lol
Rosen threw a pick 6 today!
I wonder if some of us had that face???????????????
Jones’ comment about not having to prove anything because he’s one of the best in the league shows a concerning level of immaturity IMO. Those that are truly the best are always out to prove something because to sustain excellence one always needs to be striving. One cannot rest on one’s laurels.
Taken by itself, it might be written off as been poorly thought out or stated, but you also have to throw in skipping OTAs to work out on his own. Being the only member of the team to do it is indicative of…lol, well something. I understand the viewpoint he knows what is best for his body, he’s rehabbing in his own way, etc. Those points have merit taken on their own.
Last, add in the way he handled adversity last year and quit on his team. I know Gase and Burke were clowns running a circus, but Jones didn’t just quit on them. He also quit on his teammates, and, more importantly, he was the only player to respond in this fashion. Again, indicative.
I’m glad he showed up ready to work. Despite his statements, IMO because of his actions he actually does have a lot to prove, especially to his teammates. I wouldn’t be terribly upset to see him traded for adequate compensation, but I don’t see anyone trading for that contract unless we pay a nice portion of it.
And on to more important things. Sniff, sniff, do ya smell that? We have a Boston fan on the board. You can always tell by the putrescent, fetid stench. It smells just like a Jets fan, only slightly more northeasterly. Rob, you wretched louse. Rooting for a Boston team. For shame.
We should have a timeout corner for people on the board we find do despicable things like slaughtering innocent people, poisoning puppies, or rooting for the Bruins.
Although, if we’re being fair, I root for the Celtics as my second team after the Kings, so what does that say about me? lmao
“a timeout corner” would make sense…… but I’ll go for calling it the penalty box 🙂
And Celts are my team. Roster is stacked at least.
Ah, ‘penalty box’. I missed an opportunity there. Nice one, Stang. 🙂
What does the word VOLUNTARY mean?
I’ll answer that with a question of my own . . .
What does it mean when 90 out of 91 players show up to something, and one guy who thinks he’s above such things doesn’t?
btw, he did show up voluntarily for the first voluntarily, i feel You are frying a nothing burger, lol
check out Flores and Griers comments,
I posted as a reply to David!
But thought I’d bring it down!
David came up with Penalling, but it fit perfectly! 😉
wyoming85 says:
June 4, 2019 at 3:08 pm
No but he may be penaliing the team is the point every one is trying to get out there!
It’s not about contractual, right and wrong!
It’s about team first VS Me first!
Didn’t Grant, and Wilson, and some others show up to start learning the new playbook?
Even though they are not released for full contact yet?
I thought we were trying to get rid of that type of attitude????????
Takes No Talent to show up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Flores was QUITE upset Jones voluntariliy skipped the voluntaries, and had this to say in disgust
“He was excited and eager to get into meeting and practice. I’m looking forward to working with him,” coach Brian Flores said. “He’s got quite a lot of experience. He’s someone who can play quite a lot of roles.”
Reshad lovers international – – – Also keep in mind that the team isn’t going to make a big deal out of this, especially if they want to trade him. They lose big time leverage if there is a problem between he and the team. Just thought I’d throw that out there. lol
Part of the dynamic. He becomes more disgruntled and harder to trade. Same time — might not like what team he is on if he really pisses them off.
it’s good to know that Reshad Jones has an international support group
I agree, they’ll hurt trade value if they make it a big deal
But I also think – it’s not a big deal
This is just June gossip/drama
It’s nothing
“You go into de box, and uhhh, you feel shame”
Anyone know this quote?
Let me fix this, I misquoted . . .
“You go to da box for 2 minutes, ya know, by yourself…you feel shame…and then you get free.”
I’m guessing Slapshot, but it could be Goon. Since those are the only two hockey movies other than Miracle, it has to be one of them, lol.
Box Quotes – the movie
Slap Shot it is Kong – Good guess. I absolutely loved that movie. It used to crack me up
Nothing like a goalie mindset. Sorta of like playing Guard.
Been a long time since I’ve seen it, but I remember liking it.
this should clear up any misunderstandings
Jones explained his absence, saying he wanted to rehab his shoulder and get his body right while working out with his personal trainer instead of at the team facility.
“Me and the coaches, we had communications [about his whereabouts],” Jones said. “I knew you guys have to write stories and stuff like that, but me and the coaches communicate. Voluntary means voluntary, so I took the time to get physically ready to play a 16-game stretch coming off shoulder surgery in February.”
profootballtalk
I get it, but is Reshad your new Jarvis? Don’t think he will be on the team for long. Great player, but why keep him?
no he isnt my jarvis
i dont have an issue with Jones, i have other problems tho, wanna hear em> lol
Whether you bring up your thoughts on whatever it is up to you. Thought that always the case.
Yeah, that clears it all up, from his perspective . . .
The league wants 18 games, especially with legalized gambling on the way, and it now has something to give up in order to create even more revenue.
The NFL and NFLPA announced last week a joint committee will study the use of marijuana by players as a pain-management tool.
wanna play two more games a year kid?
No
but ill let u get high
OK 🙂
You want something that makes Reshad look good?
Here –
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/06/04/report-leonte-carroo-suspended-four-games/
And the first candidate to be cut is….
He’s a FA we had already cut him in the offseason. He’s not going to have an easy time signing with a team now.
That’s my QB!
No wonder he’s smiling
#Endtimes
We have officially ran out of ideas.
Child’s Play has been re-made
Chucky is back SMH
Thanks for the info Wyo – Keep ’em coming!
I don’t follow everyone!
So don’t count on me!
We’ll see if Davis moving to RT is permanent or the coaches just taking a look. They’re looking for the best 5 combination. Flores has said he’d like to find a core 5 and go from there. Some reports have said Mills looked slow. Could be because it’s early and he’s not in top football shape yet and no pads to grasp a defender.
It’s sooooooo early yet. 1000 things will change before we start th season
Agreed. Fitzpatrick is already the starter. LOL
So are they bringing back the old logo or not? I need to know how much money I need to put aside for a banner over the stadium this year.
LOL – They can’t change anything yet, they have to submit the change to the league office and it takes a year or two, forget which one
there isnt a need for a fire ireland banner anymore, lol
Oh I can see one of these in my future!
Omar once again desperately trying to lower expectations about Rosen. Yes we all know Fitz has 13 more years of NFL experience and Rosen hasn’t had exactly the best start to a career in his 2nd year with his 2nd team. The man who doesn’t talk QBs is now the QB whisperer in OTAs and Minicamp. LOL
Omar isnt to be trusted with his opinions on QB ,
he has a track record of not reporting in an unbiased manner with this before
he may be correct Fitz its first string, right this second, but we can get that info from more reliable sources,
Omars opinions on QB arent needed, and cant be trusted
lmao Wilkins is a trip, love his comments about Goodell and his elevator wrap is cool as hell
he says Goodell has some oomph to him, lol i hope Goodells shoulder didnt harm Wilkins too much 🙂
Wilkins will make a bug splash, he already has.
how many players can You actually remember meeting Goodell on draft day?
umm, just this one, lol Goodell sucks , hes quite forgettable , but even Wilkins made the mundane exciting, imagine what he will do on the field
HUGE splash, not bug splash,, friggin autokkorectssskejd , take that!
Omar complaining about Klay Thompson, wtf, dude played his ass off
thompson has 46 points in two finals games , and Omar whining about how bad his shot is, SMH
damn O, go out there and score 100 for us or stfu
hes an awesome player
Tim Knight says:
June 4, 2019 at 9:59 pm
Omar once again desperately trying to lower expectations about Rosen.
I think you are being to sensitive about your golden boy. This is the perception of every reporter who has been at the OTA’s. It is not just an Omarcentric opinion. EVERYONE has been saying that Fitz is better at this point. This is not news. It is to be expected that a guy who has a 6 week head start on the playbook plus 13 years more experience would be ahead at this point.
We’ll see as the season progresses what we have there. The great news is that if Rosen doesn’t pan out we have the ammunition in the draft to do most anything Grier wants to do.
I think the FO has done a good job this year…..I say that after every regime change! LOL.
Seriously, with the QB situation, DL, DBs, keeping players they want to work with, getting rid of bad contracts, cleaning up the cap, adding draft capital, changing mindset and culture, TNT, elevator shoulder bumps, etc…….
It’s the first year all over again. This time, STAY THE F COURSE!
or STFC
Maybe tough love will work, but am more interested in seeing how Flores schemes for Gesicki. Seems NE knows a few things about TEs.
Rock, come on with the golden boy shit. I pointed out that Fitz is a vet and Rosen is still a young buck. But Omar had about 7 tweets yesterday trying to be negative about Rosen who has also been making some great throws in OTAs and in the minicamp. He’s also thrown a bunch of TDs just like Fitz but what got focused on was a pick 6. Stats in these workouts are not a big deal, it’s practice.
Is that a “Man-Bun” or do they call that something else for Dreds?????
It’s an extra layer of anti-concussion protection.
“I got in the weight room a lot this offseason. That was my main thing, just working out as much as I can and hopefully improve so it pays off in the season. Today I weighed in at 227.”
— Jerome Baker…..that’s like the same size as TJ.
Tim Knight says:
June 5, 2019 at 11:27 am
Rock, come on with the golden boy shit. I pointed out that Fitz is a vet and Rosen is still a young buck.
Sorry if you got in your feelings about it. I was just pointing out that it’s not just Omar that is saying it. AND I made the same excuses for Rosen in my post (less time with the playbook, less experience) as everyone has.
Adam Beasley
@AdamHBeasley
Fitzpatrick > Rosen again today.
Joe Schad
@schadjoe
Yes, Ryan Fitzpatrick looks better than Josh Rosen in practice right now. #miamidolphins
I guess Armando, Schad and Beasley are all out to get him unfairly too huh?
I will apologize for calling him “your” golden boy. You have not been one of the guys saying (without evidence) that the savior is here. There are some on here that have been way over the top with their excitement already saying shit like “we have our franchise QB” and “he is already better than anything we have had” etc, etc.
I hope the kid works out.
Rock, I don’t need an apology, it’s like you said I haven’t been saying Rosen is a lock to be our franchise QB just yet. I’m hoping like the rest of us. I also have no issue if Fitz starts and Rosen is the backup to start the season. If Fitz starts to flounder at some point and Rosen gets his chance I hope he never looks back.
Only because I had already emotionally prepared myself for this to be a step back year, I would prefer that Rosen starts sooner rather than later so we can see what we have or don’t have.
I didn’t like him as a prospect last year and hoped that we wouldn’t get him then. Now I am in a quandary because I don’t think we can really evaluate him from his season with ARI last year (although he did as well or better than I expected) and I am concerned that this year might not be enough to know for sure.
I want to have a top of the league QB. I don’t want to wait until 2021 to draft one while we wait to see if Rosen can be him.
Sounds like your best case scenario is Fitz lights it up and they see in practice that Rosen doesn’t have it but keeps his trade value. Well best case other than Rosen looking like the new Marino. … but then you’d be wrong. 🙂
Adam Beasley
@AdamHBeasley
I say this with a straight face: DeVante Parker has been the best offensive player this camp.
GASP!
Never been a doubt he has it in him. Maybe the contract year thing kicked in.
He took a pay cut and signed a new 2 year $10M deal so he’s not really in a contract year.
Good point, but he can be cut free and clear next year……. so he’s still playing for his career.
Yes he’s playing to stick around and so far so good in OTAs and Minicamp. But still a long way to go. We all know he has the skills, he needs to stay healthy play a full season or close to it and produce.
but then you’d be wrong. 🙂
Stanger, I’m not one of those guys (there on some on here for sure) that would rather be right than win. If Rosen is the guy they go with I will embrace him and be happy about it. (unless of course 3 years from now Jake Fromm or Justin Herbert are obviously tearing up the league, then I might express a little regret.) (I don’t like Tua and hope he is not the guy we go for if we do select one next draft)
Stanger, ALSO, best case scenarios in order for me would be;
1. Rosen lights it up and we use our draft treasure next year to complete the team.
2. It becomes obvious to the coaches that Rosen is not the guy, while Fitz does NOT light it up so we do not end up middle of the pack again next draft.
I want to either have found our guy or be in the best position possible to get our guy. (if you want to cal that tanking of, but I look at it as more organic to rebuilding than purposely losing.
You have a point that maintaining Rosen’s trade value not nearly as important as finding that right QB. But even if we take one high in 2020….. will still have to find out.
https://pbs.twimg.com/ad_img/1136326591187783680/3lqrV7UU?format=jpg&name=orig
Rosen will be starting by some point this season and remain the starter from that point moving forward. Im pretty certain of that. My guess would be it would be after the Bye week but it could be later depending on how well we are playing before the Bye.
Rosen will get his chance when Fitz tosses a couple pick sixes
im still holding out hope that ROsen is the starter game ONE.
still alot of time left for him to earn it
Fitz is fools gold, he will toss several TDs and get everyone excited, then,,,,,, yea
Fitz is a jekyl and hyde QB
Browns release former starting LT Desmond Harrison
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001032849/article/browns-release-former-starting-lt-desmond-harrison
we could take a look at him dirt cheap
he was a UDFA last season
Rosen is the guy we are rebuiding with, not Fitz
we need this season of rebuild to see what Rosen can do or cant do
we have to know who and what Rosen is, so if we need to draft a QB, we will know long before the draft
if we start Fitz, we arent rebuilding, and we dont know what ROsen can do for us
we have to finish the season with Rosen having at least 12-16 games under his belt , so we can properly evaluate him
The rebuilding has already started with personnel along with changes in philosophy and systems. Who starts at QB doesn’t change that. Yes we all want to know if Rosen is our QB of the future but that won’t be determined by how many games he plays, the coaches see him everyday in practice so they’ll already have a grade on him and a vision of what he is moving forward.
right, who starts at qb doesnt change other players or systems or whatever
but starting Rosen is kicking the tires on our future, we are still rebuilding and seeing who we are
fitz isnt part of our future, but Rosen might be, we have to check Rosen out closely, we already know who and what FItz is
Training camp and the preseason will determine who starts and who doesn’t make the team. OTAs and Minicamp are teaching, learning and conditioning sessions.
I get that, and i dont think that Rosen wont start right off, i just think that he may not. Fitz might earn the start, and Rosen might not be where they want him to be to take the reigns. We dont have to force Rosen to the front this year and we dont have to hold him back all year. Thats why i feel there is a high likelihood he both doesnt start but becomes the starter this same year. I am not sure when he gets the start, because obviously i dont know where he is in the eyes of the coaches, but i dont think the coaches have any need to put him out there any sooner than they feel comfortable with.
Agreed.
Rock the difference between tanking and not caring about w/l is that one is intentional and one is building and trying to be competative but accepting the expectation that there could be more losses than wins this coming year. I dont think it does anything for you to start the new culture of your team by trying to lose. I know it helps in the draft but that is such a minor part of the rebuild process that it would be really stupid to hurt the culture rebuild and take strong determined players and subject them to a losing is ok mindset. I just dont see us as planning to do any of that and i think we likely do come in sorta middlish of the pack, it is what it is and we make the moves we make at whatever cost we make them, as long as it fits and keeps us “staying the course”. Thats not just a mantra for this year, its the mantra moving forward, we have to keep that in mind.
i think Rosen will start game one, he is a much better QB< and has the highest upside
and I don’t know what you base that opinion on
how much upside do You think FItz has?
Learning how to play like a 3-4 tackle, the D has lots of moving parts and watching a lot of old Patriots tape. What a lot of folks on this board suspected.
Being a last regime’s FA and being a no cost to cut player at that, its a pretty good look that they retained him. He might actual;ly take off in the new defense, because the coaches seem to think he fits.
Lets be honest, Rosen is the shiniest of our new toys and everyone wants to play with it right away, he’s or red rider BB gun that we might not be mature enough to use without the potential of ruining everything by shooting our eye out. Maybe take a little time for things to be the right time to bring it ourt and start using it, maybe actually listen to daddy and let him tell you when the time is right.
Good analogy and I’m not sure how many people realize Rosen just turned 22 years old in February. He’s still a baby at this level. Fitz has played more than half his life in seasons. No reason to rush anything with him. We have him locked up for 3-4 more seasons at a bargain.
We’ve got plenty of guys who can lineup on the interior DL (DT, NT or 3-4 DE), and a few guys who seem to fit as more traditional DEs if we choose to go with a 4 man front at times. We’ll see who’s left standing but I’m pretty sure Wilkins, Godchaux, Taylor and Spence will be 4 of them.
I know they’re are some of you on here that care what people say about the Dolphins; this should make you happy:
https://apple.news/AuD0smru5SH-AW_K8p41sNw
Right on brother!
I’m watching the NFLN desperately waiting to see some Dolphins mini camp. Dammit, it’s the freaking Browns Network now. They said they would get to the Dolphins but it’s been over an hour, and nothing. I would draw a similar conclusion to what I saw at Denver’s OTA’s and their discussion of how Flacco is way ahead of the other QB’s on the team getting down the offense. Gee, you think experience has anything to do with that? Of course Fitz is ahead of Rosen NOW, but don’t bet on that being the case come September. It’s still possible Fitz is ahead, but I expect it to be much closer at that point because the advantage Fitz had should have lessened considerably by that point, if all the reports of how football intelligent Rosen really is.
Whoa . . . Finally got a little 3 minute blurb about the Dolphins, I savored every second. Most of it was about the QB competition which Flores said will really heat up in July, but everything counts, so make the most of it. Also discussed how great DeVante Parker, once again looks fantastic in the offseason. Happens almost annually.
We don’t have to find out this year if Rosen is the future or not. As long as he makes progress and doesn’t suck we have time to keep evaluating. The only reason people even suggest this is because of next year’s projected QB draft class. But in the big scheme of things as far as development that should not be the timeline. The media and fans are putting this team on this strict timeline that really doesn’t make much sense. What if you go all in and none of the QBs in next year’s class are any better than Rosen. Now what did you do?
Not sure what you mean by go all in? You mean what if we draft another QB early? I would think if they did that then it was pretty obvious they don’t think Rosen is the guy and that’s why they drafted another QB. Just like any time you draft a QB early, if you’re wrong, you screw up your franchise for a few years if you stick with him and he doesn’t perform well. Really, any player you draft early that doesn’t pan out screws you up, but the QB is worse because you build the offense around him.
I don’t think the team would do that. The media and fans are acting as if the 22 year old Rosen doesn’t become the guy this year we must move on. I find that absurd. We have a QB who was the #10 pick last year on our team for a 2019 2nd and 2020 5th locked up for 3-4 years (5th year option) on the cheap. To then say well he didn’t do enough this season to prove he’s definitely our franchise QB we have to go all in with next year’s class. Why?
Let’s say we finish 6-10 or 7-9 and we’re in that 9-11 range, we’d have to trade up to move up and get one of the new golden boys. Then Rosen with a year under his belt in our system in 2020 becomes the guy and he’s the starter. You just gave up a bunch of draft capital for the rookie prospect and he didn’t win the job. You’re not getting that draft capital back for that guy.
thats getting too far ahead, we cant worry about whether or not a 2020 QB will be great or not. we dont even know if we need a QB or not next year.
first, we have to see what we traded our second round pick for’
absolutely we have to get Rosen on the field, he was brought in to start, we didnt need to trade for Fitz backup
next year is a bumper crop of QB, draft is bpa anyway, so there is a great chance the BPA would be a QB
if we didnt even put Rosen on the field, we wouldnt even know if we needed to pick a QB or not, or if the BPA works for us or not
we really need to know what Rosen can do for us, we cant afford to find out Rosen isnt it midway through 2020, the draft will be long over and then its another year wasted
Exactly what I meant. See my reply to Mike.
Omar Kelly trashing the entire team 5 minutes ago,,,,,,,
Have you ever opened your fridge, taken a good look inside, and then walked away disappointed after concluding, there’s absolutely nothing I want to eat in there?
That’s exactly how I feel about the Miami Dolphins after watching how this offseason transpired, watching them practice for the past few weeks, and assessing the training camp roster.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-dolphins-kelly-column-20190605-tx7e26spx5bsdkjq2te7mzyiza-story.html
I wish I could say the article is BS but it seems pretty right on point to me
So you wanted to move on from Tannenbaum and his ways. Tannehill was determined to not be the answer at QB. Gase had also lost favor along with his staff. The team wasn’t very good. So Ross changes all that and now nobody has the patience to go through a rebuild. We must know right now or some time this year whether Rosen is the answer. When did this sort of thinking start?
How about all the young QBs who were drafted high in recent years who’ve had ups and downs. Teams aren’t giving up on them based on a year or two. Why Rosen? He’s 22 years old. I look at Rosen as a rookie for us who happened to get NFL experience as a rookie on a much bigger debacle of a team in Arizona than we had in Miami last year, and we now have a new staff. What’s the rush?
We all know winning this year or next year is not paramount. Build the team and develop players and hopefully in 2021 we’re a team to be reckoned with.
I post this because lots of people are in panic mode or trying to sell it. Panic over what? You know the deal but can’t accept it.
Not that it’s any of my business, but- is everything ok with SOASOAS?
^ I mean I don’t remember seeing any posts from him recently.
So Terrel Davis does the game by name picks and has us at 6-10 .. Lindsay ? Wasswrname says well it’s not their worst record in recent years ..
Am I too much of a homer ? Were we even that bad in the Cutler year ??
Tannehill/Moore/Cutler years.
2012 7-9
2013 8-8
2014 8-8
2015 6-10
2016 10-6 (playoffs)
2017 6-10
2018 7-9
I roll with Fitz and Rosen the next two years and see where we are.
Hmm I guess I am aHomer .. thanx fer that .. but she still misplayed her line in my eyes .. it would be TIED with our worst record in the last 7?years not “not their worst record”
So we (Winnipeg) were granted/ awarded the Green Bay vs Raiders week 3 preseason game .. level 200 seats 35 yd line 192.00 each 😱..
Much appreciation to Stanger for always getting qualityFest seats for ridiculously low $$$…. and huge thanx again to Bookman for hooking us up in Green Bay last season as well
At least I won’t have 3K in travel/hotels to go with the preseason tix 🥴
3rd game is the one to see. And the Fest seats aren’t always good, but always cheap. But real nice this year. Team gets real good and you guys will be complaining…. about the seats at least. 🙂
He’s in his 15th season. He’s like Farmer’s Insurance company, he’s seen a thing or two. LOL
I think we can utilize him in the same manner we had Gore in here for , as a player coach to teach the young gun up to act like a professional.. hopefully his lessons are quickly caught onto and Rosen does become the answer for the foreseeable future ..
one thing i have noticed in the practices is Fitzpatrick is hooking up with Parker alot, which is good.
but Rosen had some nice passes to guys i never heard their name before. UDFA receivers
so the practices are apples and oranges so far
Fitzpatrick works with the projected starters
Rosen is working with the second string
its highly possible the first round Parker is a better WR,
than the UDFA WR that probably wont make the team
i wonder if Rosen would be beating out FItz in practice ,
if He had Parker and the first string offense, and Fitzpatrick was tossing the ball to joe blow average guys that will be gone soon?
is Fitz really beating out Rosen in practice? or is Parker beating out joe blow average camp bodies?
id love to see the roles reversed, then we could see Rosen working with the first string,
im sure Parker is the best WR on our team right now
My phone broke so far insurance has not delivered a new phone in 11 days. My computer broke too. Took it to the geek squad earlier this evening. I’m broke too, I tripped over a box of tile a couple of nights ago and landed hard on my right shoulder, on lots of meds right now. Almost done with my bathroom bedroom remodel. Move back in to our room again this weekend.
Busy and pain but otherwise fine. If I was a pitcher this shoulder probably ended my season.
Thanks for checking on me Try 👍
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They probably will want Risen to study a few games with Fitz out there before putting him out there and why not Fitz always gets off to fast start.
Hey Son : hope yer luck changes soon. Hate it when ya go on a run/rut like that
It might have ended today, my rut that is. A. little bird whispered to me that I might be a grandpa again but don’t tell anyone.
Secret is safe with me .. not like I’d put it out in the Techisphere on a Blog or anything 🤡. Congrats on # 2 ?
The national media covering the NFL leaves a lot to be desired. They focus on 1-3 players and have know clue about the rest of a team’s roster.
Where are the golden state fans that used to come on this site: John and rhino
Damn Son – Falling over boxes and grand babies….you’re about ready for the nursing home! Recover well and I’m sure using that “medicinal” weed keeps the pain at bay. I should hear about Sanford – Orlando next week, so hopefully I can swing by soon and see the progress on the remodel.
Oh and on the QB – I believe they will draft a QB high (as in one of the top prospects) next year regardless of Rosen, unless he lights it up like the next coming of Sweet Baby Marino.
And for ORob, henceforth SWJ = Sweet Baby Jesus.
Sonny! Welcome back my friend! Godspeed for your recovery! Congratulations on the ting we ain’t supposed to know about!
Tim – It’s more than being “The Guy” this year, I’m sure they can evaluate him well enough whether he plays 6 games or 16 games. What I’m saying is after their evaluation they don’t believe he’s going to be their winning starting QB going forward, they may draft a QB next year, especially if they’re in good position to do so. I would very much prefer this not be the case
Love the HUGE print in that article. Easy on my old eyes
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Brian Flores told his Dolphins players this morning that instead of practicing on their final day of mandatory minicamp today they will take their conditioning test & be done. A nice treat after a hard spring. Now, summer vacation!
Son — sorry about the fall man. Did my shoulder in something similar similar about a year or so ago
(but for me was a missed curb instead of a box). Thing took so long to heal thought did permanent damage….. but all gone now. Guess we just don’t recover like we used to. So guess that is the good news/bad news have to offer.
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This is almost like they were responding to my comments the other day about Spence lol.
“The Dolphins parted ways with Cameron Wake, Robert Quinn and Andre Branch and retained only one of their incumbent defensive linemen who’s 27 or older: Akeem Spence.
Why was Spence retained?
“He’s athletic, strong, a hard worker,” Flores said. “He works as hard as anyone on this team. He’s had some success in this league. We want to keep good players around.””
son of a son of a shula says:
June 5, 2019 at 9:45 pm
My phone broke so far insurance has not delivered a new phone in 11 days. My computer broke too. Took it to the geek squad earlier this evening. I’m broke too, I tripped over a box of tile a couple of nights ago and landed hard on my right shoulder, on lots of meds right now. Almost done with my bathroom bedroom remodel. Move back in to our room again this weekend.
Busy and pain but otherwise fine. If I was a pitcher this shoulder probably ended my season.
Thanks for checking on me Try 👍
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I thought when old people fell like that ya had to put them down…… hope you get better so they dont have to……. 🙂