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Finsmob Unleashed 
Earlier stuff was best. They got Pop ie later in careers
One more of my all time favourite tunes. Band was a one hit wonder
Hope some of ya enjoyed Canadian Music Hour 🤘🤘
Wait, no ‘Go For Soda’??
Close enough ??
Heh, just messing with you. Just looked him up and realized he’s from Sarnia. Stopped there once to check out Lake Huron.
He was also lead singer of Max Webster see Battlescar above 😊
I would expect nothing less from you sir 😊
Okay Beth was a bit if a surprise 😱
I was a child of the 70’s and 80’s
I can flip back and forth from ACDC to Hank Williams JR in seconds! 😉
I actually don’t mind that one ..
Feeling a mellow vibe this evening!
Nothing wrong with that… first concert I ever went to
Toba – Rik Emmett is one of the best guitarists around (saw you already posted a Triumph song). They kind of stole the show at the US Festival in ’83 so I hear.
Wyo – Chris Ledoux was the man. He had a lot of good stuff over the years. Shame he passed relatively young.
I still like his early stuff that was sold in the local feed stores!
Yes Rik Emmett was a Great guitarist .. I liked their songs a lot more than rush .. although rush did it a lot longer
I’ll leave you with this as I go to bed!
Fuck man .. we just got hit with a 7.1 earthquake.
You alright ?? Wasn’t yesterday s a big one as well ?
Rik Emmett was a very underrated guitar player. He and his band just didn’t write enough big tunes.
Steve Vai is a great guitar player – what’s his big tune?
Couple of very good points
Toba a 6.4 yesterday was gnarly but a 7.1 is basically 10 times stronger .
California sucks and Mother Nature proves that I need to get the fuck out .
Wishing all the Cali folks well. Yikes!!!
Mother nature is the only thing worth a shit in Cali. Both the NBA Summer league game and the WNBA game were suspended here last night after the earthquake hit. The floor at the WNBA game cracked. I was in the casino of Mandalay Bay (home of Las Vegas Aces WNBA team) when it hit, but didnt feel a thing.
Phindog — hope you guys are OK. And if you decide to get out….. no earthquakes in FL.
seat belts should be optional to wear or not, safety laws are not for safety,
they are to generate income for local governments
where are the seat belts on motorcycles?, so its safe to ride a motorcycle with no helmet, no seat belt, no roof, no air bags
but the law mandates safety in cars?
Yes, in FL, You can get a ticket for driving a car without a seat belt, but motorcycles with no seat belt or helmet is legal
seat belts only help in limited situations. sometimes they contribute to death or injury
if Your car is on fire or goes n the water,
the seatbelts could trap You inside and prevent You from exiting a car quickly , resulting in certain death
i already had to pull a lady out of a burning car before, and the hardest part of the ordeal was getting the damn buckle loose on the seat belt, it almost kept any rescue attempt from, succeeding’
if i was not there , the seat belt would have killed her by preventing a timely exit.
she had a broken arm and couldnt unfasten her belt
A counter exception to a generality is not proof the generality is wrong, only an exception.
“According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), more than 15,000 lives are saved each year in the United States because drivers and their passengers were wearing seat belts”
i have heard the same stats, but where are the stats on how many lives were lost in fires or water entries?
why would our safety conscious government list lives saved, and fail to list the others? failure to list them, doesnt mean they dont exist
i know of One lady where the seat belt prevented her from leaving a car on fire, could there be others? has a car ever went into water?
im certain of it, because i cant possibly see every single car on fire, or every single car that went into the water
why does the government require seat belts on cars but no belts , helmets, airbags, on motorcycles?
does the government not care of their safety? why?
Maybe the government has determined seatbelts and airbags on motorcycles make no sense. A lot of states do require helmets and seems that is left to the states….. even if bike riders tend to fight those laws.
its hypocritical and revealing that the state of FL doesnt require helmets on bike riders, when they have proven to be safer. but do require seat belts in cars with evidence its safer.
this hypocritical lawmaking is revealing that the government really doesnt care for our safety
look at a seatbelt in ANY race car
its a double crossing belt, protecting Your torso area
that little band across the lap in a passenger car doesnt do much of anything,
or race cars would go with the less weight and expense of lap belts
all race car drivers KNOW the tiny lap belts are not adequate enough, they demand safety, and that means the torso double crossover design
the government should NOT make or enforce safety laws inside a private vehicle, and ignore the safety of bikers.
thats hypocritical, and it reveals the government does NOT care about safety, they love the income derived from it
there ARE stats on bike injuries with no belts or helmets, they are horrific,
but be sure to buckle up inside Your SUV, the government dont want us to get hurt SMH
if the local governments actually did care about safety, then why do they drive through school zones at 80 MPH to give someone a ticket in a school zone for doing 21? this got reported when i saw it.
they do that all the time in satellite beach, there is a road there with 3 school zones consecutively
is the police officer so skilled of a driver, he or she can stop instantly if a child crosses the street?
why dont professional drivers have those kind of skills?
the government isnt the best source to decide and enforce Your personal safety inside your vehicle by requiring seat belt use, WE ARE
seat belts and helmet cannont help this british guy in a reliant, lmao this is hilarious
David
Seat Belts save lives.
Everyone should wear a seatbelt in every seat in every car no matter how far or where they are going.
There is no room for discussion on this.
Motorcycle riders with no helmets is like comparing hot air balloon deaths to plane crashes.
You know what the proof in the pudding is that we haven’t asked — does David wear his seat belt? Or would he if wasn’t a ticket in FL.
Take care of yourself Phindog
And make sure you wear your seatbelts..,lol
David you’ll argue anything. You of all people should know how laws are created. Helmet laws and seat belt laws have nothing to do with each other.
LMAO
LOL
Let’s imagine for a minute having to lay your bike down or high-siding it to avoid a collision. Being strapped to it with a seatbelt is last thing you would want. Helmet would definitely come in handy, but a seatbelt on a motorcycle!?! SBJ Window Licker…that’s goofy even for you.
I was more interested in how airbags on bikes would work (saw dudes getting thrown back and off), but gotta tip your hat to David. He comes up with interesting ideas.
K now that ya spell that out , that’d be hilarious to watch..
A more practical solution might be something like the James Bond ejector seat out of the Austin Martin.
In most bike accidents there would be an ejection I fear
Fatality stats are off the charts. Seen two bikers on the side of the road passed (one ugly as ugly can be)….. that was enough.
Thanks Piggy !! I always wear my seatbelts and make sure I take it off if my vehicle catches on fire 🔥
Before I drive into a lake 😎
Dog — your place OK?
Yes thanks for asking. We felt the two big ones and some of the bigger aftershocks but nothing like they are dealing with at the epicenter. We are about 120 miles away so not shaking as bad as them and I had my seatbelt on 🐕😁
MANITOBA–THANKS, man, for that tour back in time with Canadian rockers!! It’s NOT just the Brits & the American rockers who produced the greatest music era of all time, eh??
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GOTTA DISAGREE with your view on seat belts, though. Your right NOT to wear a seat belt ends at the edge of my wallet. NOW if you, and all the Americans who agree with you, are willing to pay up to 40% higher premiums over what us belt users pay, than I say “go to it!!” Run your heads into a brick wall and give those in the medical industry MORE work to do!! BUT I REFUSE to pay greatly increased insurance rate just so you can make a foolish decision.
BTW, a local guy who WEARS A HIGH-TECH MOTORCYCLE HELMET when riding his HOG, says he saw his rates rise dramatically AFTER Florida enacted a “no-helmet ” law. ALL you need in Florida to ride sans helmet is $5,000 in medical coverage!!! IF they made these guys pay for the real costs of going without a helmet, THEIR insurance would rise by a HUGE amount!! But, instead, both the helmet-less and the helmet wearers are lumped into the same pool, thereby forcing, against their will, helmetted drivers to pay far MORE for their insurance than they’d otherwise pay. Is THAT fair???
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NO MORE “FREE RIDES” for those who won’t wear belts or helmets!!!!!
Boy now that is a very cogent and compelling argument.
You’d need a shotgun to get me on a crotch rocket!
Before I make this argument, just for clarity’s sake, let me state, I wear my seat belt and believe it makes me safer. I don’t feel strongly enough about the stance I’m taking to do anything other than to take the weaker position and debate it here out of boredom.
I have libertarian views on the subject, and don’t think the government should force regulation designed to protect us from ourselves (.i.e I don’t think adults should be forced to wear seat belts ‘for their own good’, even though I personally think you’re an idiot if you don’t wear one.) But again I’m not up in arms about the seat belt or helmet laws in my state.
So I’d say the primary point of contention I have to get around is it saves us money, which if true is a valid point and strong case as that affects everyone.
So first, the “my insurance guy said…” argument about raised rates is crap. (Not saying it didn’t happen, just saying this is an anecdotal statement, not proof of anything.) My insurance guy told me it doesn’t affect rates one way or the other. (Just as immaterial.)
Or is the argument that some insurance guy is so good that he can accurately predict all the state rates across the board over the past 20-30 years and forecast what market progressions would have been with or without seat belt laws and was thereby able to determine some 20%-40% discrepancy? lol. I’m betting all insurance companies have all sorts of ‘data’ that shows how they are saving us money and he’s drawing his conclusions from this.
OD when they passed seat belt laws in your state did your insurance rates fall? I can answer that, no they didn’t. They didn’t in CA either, or any state (see reference below).
So where are these mythical savings coming in? In lower rates due to less insurance money being paid out? Then why didn’t rates fall after laws were enacted and costs supposedly dropped the following year? And did the costs incurred actually drop the following year? Again the numbers cited in my source below show in some cases these costs were falling prior to seat belt laws and the ratio of cost dropping actually DECREASED after seat belt laws were enacted, so again where are the savings? Not definitive, but indicative. Seat belts don’t prevent accidents, so how much money are they actually saving? It’s all speculative forecasting, but what isn’t speculative is that our rates didn’t drop due to the laws, or stop going up over the years either. Really all that can be argued is rates might have gone up less without seat belt laws, and that is a hard pill to swallow.
I’ve seen articles and studies in relation to seat belt law legislature that claim they will help lower premiums, but there is always the caveat of “just one of many factors” in rates, and to record no insurance company ever lowered rates after said laws were enacted.
Anyway, that’s my spiel. Not a perfect argument. It’s got a couple holes, one logical fallacy, and only one sourced reference, but like I said, I was bored, lol.
An interesting read (cited above):
https://fee.org/articles/the-fraud-of-seat-belt-laws/
Great counter to the rote response. I, too feel like it’s in my own best interest to take advantage of the safety devices available to me, but balk the idea of the government enforcing my use of them, and never saw a reduction in my insurance rates once their use was required by law.
Cheers!
It was 90° in Anchorage, AK on the 4th.
And then there is this.
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/07/04/arapahoe-basin-skiing-4th-july-colorado/
Glad to read you weren’t impacted too severely by the quakes, Doggie.
Kinda goes towards my point; individual extremes, in-and-of-themselves, are not proof of climate change.
TC is almost here. LOL
LOL
Appliances and seat belt laws. Dolphins blog offseason conversation at its finest!
This was supposed to be a reply to Tim above. Why the heck am I struggling lately to navigate the devilish pitfalls of the reply button? lol
LOL
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001029886/article/is-josh-rosen-the-dolphins-brett-favre-ravens-transformation
Interesting article and if you haven’t watched Rosen’s intro presser, you should. Changed my mind about his perceived attitude coming into the league.
When he stayed an extra day in Arizona to play in a charity softball game, I started to question all that “noise”!
The Dolphins ranked 18th in rushing yards last year, 29th in 2017, 9th in 2016, 23rd in 2015,
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in 2016 we were 9th in rushing and made the playoffs, what a coincidence! i wonder if that’s ever happened before?
for those who don’t know…^ sarcasm ^
I do believe Gaskin has a real shot at being the Bell cow, and don’t tell me we will be running back by committee,
we will be RB by situation and the guy who’s in there on 1st and 10 on the first set of downs will be the bell cow.
Drake cant run btwn the tackles, Ballage while we haven’t seen enough of him to really know seems to run too upright to be effective in the trenches.
there’s a reason why Miami drafted a Gaskin type RB and i believe that reason is to pick up the tough yards on 1st down.
As long as he doesn’t rush for ten or more too often on first down. That just kills the team’s chances to win.
Just messin’ with you ORob. It was too easy to resist.
it’s great to pick up chunk yardage but in Drakes case it’s also fools gold, so judging him on what down and distance he leaves us on 2nd down is judging how effective he is as a bell cow.
1st down is the most important down, it’s the difference between winning and losing, if you put your offense in 2nd and 6 or less the playbook is wide open, you can run or pass which keeps D’s honest.
when your in 2nd and 8 you’re predictable, D’s play back and make it tougher to pass.
you have to get the tough yards on 1st down consistently!
Gore avg’d 4 yards per carry on 1st, Drake…2 yards per carry.
i know, i did the math.
I really think rushing offense is as much, if not more, about the OL as it is about the RB.
then tell me why Gore was able too gouge out more yardage than drake with the same OL? it also has a lot to do with the rb
Play calls, number of carries/opportunities, situations. I haven’t looked, but I believe Gore got more carries, particularly on early downs, than Drake. More carries=more opportunities=better average.
Gase was an idiot-savant without the savant part when it came to play calling.
more carries should hurt gores avg not help it, and there’s a reason why gore got more carries, he was more effective on 1st down.
if you take a batter who goes 1 for 3 with a .333 batting avg over the season, you also have a batter who goes 50 for 140 and has less than .333 ….
who’s the better hitter?
in gores case he had more attempts and twice the avg drake had.
no comparison, gores the better bell cow by far!
KONG: ONE SMALL problem with your reaction to the seat belt law; I NEVER SAID MY INSURANCE RATES WENT DOWN!!!!! Telling THE TRUTH in a discussion is kind of important.
ALL I SAID was that rates were higher for auto insurance rose more when their was NO seat belt requirement. THIS WOULD HAVE COST ME AN EXTRA 20-40% according to the State Farm agent who helped me with my coverage back in the early ’70’s. And the rich guy who rode his HOG told me HIS insurance rates were higher than they otherwise would have been when Florida did away with helmet laws. IF YOU HAVE contradictory facts to this I’ll be glad to listen to you. After all, I’ve voted Libertarian in the last two presidential elections and there is a strong probability I’ll do it again if I live that long.
JUST have the integrity to accurately reflect my views. And, I repeat, any one’s right NOT to wear a seat belt ends at the edge of my wallet. If some don’t like my view, that’s OK. Hope they truly enjoy much higher rates.
insurance is a funny business, i believe they look at the amount of claims over the past year, probably add in an adjustment from year to year increase/decrease add their profit on top and divide it over the specific plans to get your rate,
when you inact a seat belt law, more people wear their seatbelt more lives are saved and claims go down which in turn lowers rates.
That would be the logical way to look at it, but we’re talking about a racket, so…
insurance rates are governed by the Govt. they have to be in reason. not to mention it’s highly competitive.
Go To The General
Insurance rates are not governed by the government. They are determined by actuaries who work in the underwriting department of the particular carrier
i thought they were after all the hurricanes that hit S FL Texas and LA
Reserves for open claims but rates are determined by the individual carrier. There are certain risk pools where government mandates insurance be made available such as high risk drivers but they pay a significant premium for pretty minimal coverage
^reserves have to be reported to state government
Drugs are cool…let’s make them all legal…
https://www.foxnews.com/us/lsd-fueled-rampage-in-california-leaves-8-injured-man-who-stabbed-others-with-pencil-landscape-light-shot-by-cops
I wonder if we could sell an all out royal rumble, with a bunch of LSD addicts????
And don’t confuse that with LDS! That one got me in trouble one time!
These days it doesn’t seem that people need drugs to do f’d up things.
What up FUers. Hulk waking up from his hibernation
Welcome back
What did I miss? I go through these black out periods where I wake up on a pile of rubble wearing nothing but torn shorts and I cannot remember anything…oh wait that is called Saturday night
I thought it was the cincinatti game last year?
I’m high on being straight.
That sounds kind of gay. JBB
not sure how you came up with that? unless you’re testing the waters looking for a date.
Want to go white water rafting?
i’ll take you out to seal island and let you go water skiing, don’t worry you’ll have a great time!
OD, I never said you made the claim your rates went down, even by implication. I even asked you the question in my rebuttal – “OD when they passed seat belt laws in your state did your insurance rates fall? ” I just hit that point home multiple times because it was a key element of my rebuttal, and I am allowed to bring new points to a discussion.
I believe anyone that read our posts would agree I accurately reflected your views and previous statements, so that is a non-starter.
The problem with the rate savings argument is seat belts don’t stop accidents. Even if you can prove that seat belts lower the rate of fatality, to address Rob’s point as well, (which the reference article I posted disputes to some effect) seat belts don’t necessarily lower the rate of injury. You still have costs incurred from accidents with seat belts, and fatalities don’t necessarily cost less than injury, in most cases it’s probably the opposite.
Which costs the insurance company more? The driver who flies through the windshield and dies in the road? Or the driver who gets a broken nose, ribs, and arm, sustains a concussion, and is out of alignment needing chiropractic work for 2 years?
Obviously there are many degrees of injury with differing costs. I’m just saying it’s not as simple as people believe. Max rate increases are governed, and insurance companies do everything they can to maximize their return. There are so many factors they can hide the reason for increase in, this idea these seat belt laws save us on insurance rates is a line IMO, and in the brief research I did to make this argument I found more than a few references to studies that back up the idea we the insured don’t see any savings, including the one I posted on my previous post.
Steve hit on it quite succinctly, it’s a racket. And David also touched on some of it, albeit in his David way so the salient points got lost, it’s a money generator.
As for helmet laws, I bow out of that one. I didn’t do any research on it. I don’t ride a motorcycle, and never will, so I honestly couldn’t care less. In my mind that is even more a case of let someone not wear a helmet if they don’t want to, and hopefully when they die it is before they reproduce, lol.
for some reason i cant post a link however this is from a site i just googled
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supporters point to evidence that seat belts not only reduce injuries and fatalities in car crashes, they also help cut down on healthcare costs and contribute to a reduction in car insurance premiums.
From my reference in last night’s post:
“Seat-belt laws have also failed to reduce highway fatalities in the numbers promised by supporters to get such laws passed.8 According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, there were 51,093 highway fatalities in 1979.9 Five years later, 1984, the year before seat-belt laws began to pass, there were 44,257 fatalities. That is a net decrease of 6,836 deaths in five years, which represents a 13.4 percent decline with no seat-belt laws and only voluntary seat-belt use. In 1999, there were 41,611 fatalities. That is a net decrease of 2,646 deaths, a 6 percent decrease over 15 years of rigid seat-belt law enforcement, with some states claiming 80 percent seat-belt use. If the passage of seat-belt laws did anything, it slowed the downward trend in highway fatalities started years before the passage of such laws.”
Part of the problem with trying to quantify this, is cars have become safer all the way around. Airbags, regulations, etc.
your talking about 1979 to 1984 reduction and that seatbelt laws have failed a reduction in death, where’s your current data supporting your statement?
Property Casualty Insurers Association of America concluded that primary enforcement of seat belt laws, though just one of many factors, plays a part in lowering car insurance premiums.
LOL, go back to my post last night and you’ll see I reference this exact thing. It’s probably one of the same sites I researched. It’s always ‘one of many factors’. Always nebulous.
I do appreciate your honesty in rebuttal though, pointing out all factors instead of just the part that suits your position.
Whaaas up, Ken?
Not much Kong sports doldrums other than baseball unless you like women’s soccer
Well you’re in luck then. You obviously know something about the insurance industry, and the other day we were having a riveting conversation about high-end appliances, LOL.
I have had a few cases involving oven fires
Well that covers both topics at once. An expert! 😉
Ken — we’ve been waiting patiently.
But Cap and Iron Man are gone
Cap is off making sure David wears his seat belt and Iron Man is doing a meet and greet with M13. Yeah the things that happen on this board. 🙂
Seat belt laws have probably kept premiums lower than they otherwise would have been. But there are competing factors such as raising speed limits and the cost of life saving medical care combined with the fact that life saving medical care is more common place so more people survive car accidents but have very high medical expenses which will drive up auto insurance premiums
You isolate the one factor and see what the impact as best you can. I’m on the seat belts save lives side (as did mine)….. bold I know, but every once in a while gotta be. 🙂
The next great revolution in lowering auto premiums is supposed to be self driving cars. I remain unconvinced
I come back on and the blog breaks
My grandson loves purple, so we told him about the Hulk’s purple pants. Mrs. K got him a Hulk doll and he loves it!
He’s 5.
Krisha — up to you whether to break the news to him that being the Hulk makes you a blog killer. 🙂
Everyone love Hulk. Smash!
Everyone love Hulk!
QB controversy brewing in Tennessee?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vrabel-reiterates-tannehill-is-mariotas-backup/ar-AADX7S6
Gotta love the media driven stories.The first 3 sentences basically say it’s a media driven story flat out, lol.
“But the questions aren’t going alway”
🙄
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dirty f%^k’n player, should be suspended
I don’t know much about girlie past times, but I don’t see anything dirty. Don’t they both have a right to the baseline?
Looks to me like the catcher was blocking the plate
What esle does the runner do?
Kong,
It’s funny how different people can read the same thing and come away with 2 totally different translations. I guess it proves we all look at things through our biases.
^poorly stated
Different people can read the same thing and come away with MULTIPLE translations.
Yeah, that is the truth, lol. Giving the benefit of the doubt that it was genuine and not just a deflection gambit, it honestly surprised me that was what he took from my post.
The catcher was way too far up the base path but that’s where the ball was. The runner seemed to try to avoid it but the ball brought them together. The runner was also concerned with the catcher’s well-being. Shit happens.
well I can see some around here can not see. baseball did away with running over the catcher. the catcher was clearly in the right position. he was inside the base line not blocking the plate.
the runner veered into him with a fore arm. its plane as day and the umps corrected their call calling the base runner out. dirty play on the part of the base runner
“dirty play” implies intent, which I do not get from this video. I see a guy trying to protect himself while on a path of imminent collision.
Whatever you say. I’ve heard baseball people comment on this this morning and nobody thinks it was dirty. You can’t block the base path. End of story.
you both are fuck’n NUTZ!
look at the .39 mark of the video, the catcher is clearly inside the base path, the runner has a clear path to home plate! the runner changed his position veering to his left a yard inside the base path, it’s clear the runner was dead meat from a great throw by the right fielder, the reason he did that was intent to hit the catcher to try to dislodge the ball!
he’s a dirty bastard!
he was also called OUT!
Why would they change that call when they initially called him safe, common sense tells me that the umps saw it as dirty as well after viewing the replay.
anyone who see’s it differently is a moron!
look at the .59 mark, the base runner clearly sets his right foot to change direction to purposely hit the catcher.
Those are strong words especially for something that isnt black and white.
Intent to me would’ve been more obvious, if Jake hadn’t gone to the ground before contact. Hence sliding inside to avoid the tag.
Contact happened partly due to the fact that the catcher was up the line from home plate. I mean Jake cant start his slide 10 feet away from the plate.
it doesn’t matter how far up the line the catcher is, he’s entitled to the space inside the line, the runner purposely mowed him over and that’s DIRTY!
So Rapinoe thinks the USWNT should be paid the same as the men? What a dipshit, if she really believes they should. For the same reason male models will never be paid the same as women models.
Too many people have no idea how markets work. They just make up numbers out of thin air and think that’s what it should be in the name of “fair”. Utopia is a wonderful fantasy.
I haven’t looked up the numbers or other factors I may be unaware of, but it seems pretty simple that revenue generated should be the major deciding factor. If the men generate a lot more revenue, then they get paid more. It shouldn’t take teams of accountants and lawyers to figure this one out, lol.
I started to write I agree with ORob, but then I went back and took another look, and the runner veered inside, I believe to avoid the catcher, and they just collided. I dont see the intent.
I can see how there’s different opinions on this though. I slowed it down, to make sure I saw it correctly, and watched it about 10 times.
Jake looked like he expected the catcher to move outside the base path, so he went inside. The collision occurred, because the catcher stayed inside.
ORob, take another look.
Too much is being made of this. It was unfortunate not dirty. Blame the throw. LOL
The runner guessed wrong, the catcher paid the price. I can see why the runner was out, but that doesn’t mean it was dirty.
The runner was ruled out, because he collided with the catcher and you cant do that.
what makes it dirty was the runners intent, he hit the catcher purposely and that’s dirty
well for those who are not clear on baseball rules, the catcher has to be inside the base path, which he clearly was, he cant be across the line blocking home plate, the runner is entitled to the base line.
what makes this play “dirty” is the runner was clearly toast and at the .59 mark you can see him plant his right foot changing his direction leading with his right forearm right into the catchers head/neck area. could have caused a career ending injury!
the intent was clear, he was trying to take out the catcher, dislodge the ball to avoid being called out. that would be all right if the catcher had crossed the baseline, but he didn’t.
the base runner should have continued somewhat down the line and made an effort for homeplate, not the catchers head.
for those of you clueless on baseball, that’s called DIRTY!
you can’t even do that in football!
Years ago the Catcher would block home plate and the runner would collide with him, Baseball took that out due to injuries.
now the Catcher has to be inside the line and the runner has to stay on or near the base line.
if the catcher is blocking the plate the runner is safe, if the runner takes out the catcher when he’s in proper position the runner is out.
the intent by the runner is clear and DIRTY as hell!
I’ll bet he may get suspended
Marisnick was ruled out for deviating from his path and initiating contact.
My boy Yadi called it a dirty play. That’s good enough for me.
I honestly couldn’t decide if it was ‘dirty’ when watching it. I agree with the sentiment that ‘dirty’ implies intent, and my first instinct was he guessed wrong on which side of the line the catcher would go, but I’m not discerning enough in this case to definitively come down on either side of the fence, so I side with my favorite catcher of all time Mr. Molina, lol.
Yadi is a catcher a clear bias.
Naturally. 🙂
And now for what you’ve all been waiting for — The Breaking Appliance News.
The front loading washer and dryer just left the building (same guys who installed which made it a bit embarrassing).
Tmrw we are scheduled tfor delivery of a top loader and dryer pretty much just like the ones we had before. Have some LED reads but none of the fancy functions the others had. Hoping that means if the digital show of how long left goes down just means don’t know how long left rather than don’t work.
What’s clear to me is, at the point the grass ends the runner steps inside and gets down before contact, if he was going for a collision he would’ve stayed up and not cut inside, but I’m not going to say I know for sure what his intent was.
Also his reaction to the collision was that of a puzzled person. He didnt show the aggression that someone trying to take out the catcher would have.
He intentionally took his head off!
ocalarob says:
July 8, 2019 at 6:48 am
your talking about 1979 to 1984 reduction and that seatbelt laws have failed a reduction in death, where’s your current data supporting your statement?
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Where is yours?
The 80’s is when nearly all states seatbelt laws started taking effect, with the last states enacting in the 90’s. So that is where you see the difference in data, before and after the laws are enacted. My reference provided data points from 1979 to 1984, and 1999.
Are you seriously suggesting I should have data that show how much seatbelt laws enacted in the 80’s affect the injury and fatality numbers in 2019? That is silly.
I provided actual relevant statistical data.
You provided this: “supporters point to evidence that seat belts not only reduce injuries and fatalities in car crashes, they also help cut down on healthcare costs and contribute to a reduction in car insurance premiums.”
OK i’ll stick to yards per carry ten yards or less!
This little Piggy has mentioned Costello and Eason before
CavalierKong says:
July 8, 2019 at 3:44 pm
Where is yours?
The 80’s is when nearly all states seatbelt laws started taking effect,
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on may 6th 2009 is when the seat belt law was passed in FL, Being this is a Miami Football blog that’s the only state i’m concerned with. 🙂
LOL @ ORob. Fair enough, bro. 🙂
OROb would have won if David was here to help him. 🙂
Looking for deaths in fl prior to 2009 and after 2009 to compare, can’t find any info on that
This is the problem I keep running into. It’s hard to find good analytical data on this subject that can be clearly used to support one position or the other. I’m sure it’s there, I just don’t have the inclination to dig that deep and put that much time and effort into it.
Especially in a position I’m not entirely convinced I believe in, lol.
The 2009 seat belt law in FLa is a primary enforcement law
But the actual first seat belt law in fla (requiring passengers in Front seats of cars to “buckle up, it’s the law”) was 1986
So it goes back to the 80s
Here is some analysis for you guys
https://fdotwww.blob.core.windows.net/sitefinity/docs/default-source/safety/safety/4-reports/seat-belt-use-reports/2010-09-29-sb-usereport-change-to-primary-law.pdf?sfvrsn=38c859c_0
Everyone love Hulk!
ORob, I agree with you and I have played catcher, 3B, an umpired baseball games and pretty clear about the rules.
First, the catcher was not blocking or no wear near the line…at least 3 feet inside of it trying to catch the ball. Maybe his foot was in the path of the runner, maybe.
The base runner launched himself off his right foot into the catcher 3 ft inside his direct path to the base. No cause or justification.
As a base runner you take the direct line to the base not the player. He should have been ejected and fined.
^where near
I’m watching that video again and I can see it now
The catcher is not on the base, he’s not even close
And the base runner just puts his head down and plows into him when he didn’t have to
Pretty evident, imo. Just look at the white line. A base runner is taught to stay in foul territory, 1st or 3rd, outside the line, but parallel.
It’s pretty evident you didnt look close enough.
Just for the record Jake Marisnick is not a dirty player!
That’s how I saw it, he kind of got caught in no man’s land got confused and that’s how it went down. The first thing he did was look after the catcher’s well being and apologized multiple times since then. It wasn’t dirty or intentional.
That’s pretty much what I said.
how do you know he was in a state of confusion? were you in his mind?
he planted his right, changed direction right into the catcher leading with a fore arm, that’s intentional not confusion.
if your trying to avoid something you don’t jump right at it!
so i guess if you see someone shoot another in the face as long as he apologizes it wasn’t intentional correct?
Now if Manny Machado had done this…
yeah he made a split second decision to lead with a forearm to the inside of the catchers head.
Sure am glad I asked for clarification.
I don’t trust baseball rules, interpretations or enforcement. That pastime has so many “unwritten”rules it’s hard to know what is and what isn’t a rule.
Yet, the play didn’t happen anywhere near the outside of the plate and contact was a yard inside initiated by the runner. A good base runner could have easily scored by diving to the plate vs aiming for the catcher and losing the line he was on. One of the reasons for lines in baseball.
The intent of the runner was to take out the catcher to dislodge the ball who was no where near the runner’s path to the plate. In fact, the runner went so far inside his whole body missed the plate INSIDE even though he caromed to the outside off the catcher. He had to go back and make sure he touched. Amazing.
I totally agree with that assessment, i really don’t understand how anyone could see it differently?
There’s absolutely zero gain for what you guys are claiming he did. so he tried to take out the catcher to accomplish what?
The catchers left foot is almost on the line, then after he made the catch and the runner broke inside the catcher went inside and forward causing the collision.
For there to be intent the catcher would’ve needed to be stationary.
The runner broke inside before the catch was made. He didnt know when the ball would be caught, and the catcher moved forward to apply the tag.
The forearm being up was him bracing for the collision, just as anyone would do when falling to the ground.
I’m an Angel’s fan, so I’m fine with the suspension, but it would be for bad split second judgement and not for intent to harm.
we shall see if MLB suspends him, i would think they will.
Well I hope they throw him a party, and erect statues of him in every major and minor league park!
😎
you may feel differently if you’re the catcher.
Miami is trying to trade for Westbrook, looks as if it may get done, both sides want this to happen as well as west brook
He’s the best available, and a solid talent, but he seems to have a hard time playing with others, and I don’t know if Reilly still had the mojo to make this work- but I’m hopeful.
*has- grrr
I think he’s a perfect fit for Miami, i’m worried what we’ll have to give up to get him, maybe Winslow and Dragic and another player to make up the $$ difference ,
Dragic is 20m however his contract is done next year, i think Winslow is 10, maybe they throw in Olynik and the 2020 draft pick
IMO no way we give them Adebayo!
Ok, I guess I’ll chime in on that home plate play. I feel on the last slo-mo from behind the plate you can see the runner looking right at the catcher. He sees the catcher squaring up and putting up his mitt to catch the throw. Right at that point the runner’s next step deviates from all previous steps down the line to inside and straight at the catcher. I don’t buy the runner’s explanation that he felt the play was going to be to the outside so he went to the inside because he clearly sees the catcher setting up for the arrival of the ball to the inside right before he makes his inside move. So IMO it was clear deviation by the runner to break up the play. It’s more difficult to tell if there was malicious intent to injure. At the last millisecond before the collision the runner ducks his head but keeps his shoulder out, but I think he was intending to hit the catcher in the chest, not the head. But the throw caused the catcher to lower himself a bit more which put his head into the line of fire. So I don’t think the runner was sorry for hitting him, just sorry for hitting him in the head. Runner was justifiably called out.
/end of excessive and purely armchair analysis
Correction – /end of *MY* excessive and purely armchair analysis
All the talk got me to actually watch the play, and think you are right on. The one thing that is indisputable is that he “made a football move.” Only Q is why with the possible answers being to either juke the catcher or break up the catch. I tend to the 2nd cause the catcher was well inside the baseline.
Sure, if the catcher hadn’t moved up and inside after he caught the ball.
So, if the intent was to hit the catcher why did he move inside? He could’ve just stayed on his line and hit him.
Makes no sense that he would move inside to hit the catcher.
In order, runner moves inside before the ball is caught, catcher after catching ball moves up and inside right in front of the runner, runner and catcher collide.
I’m wondering how some others don’t see it that way? It’s plain as day, he intended to hit the catcher that’s why he changed direction, regardless of whether he was aiming for the head or the chest it’s malicious and dirty as hell.
not only is he dirty but he’s also a liar!
So why did the runner move inside? No one from the opposite point of view can answer that. He did it, as I mentioned before he explained it, to avoid the tag, if true he’s just trying to score. If not true, then why did he go inside?
to dislodge the ball from the catcher
https://twitter.com/MiamiDolphins/status/1148628516638003202
In other baseball news Pete Alonso won the home run derby. 🙂
Wife has family with kids in town….. gonna meet some dude like this one. Used to be the guy who brought the soup and drinks. So works for me too.
benni hannas? been there, back in the early 80s
Same kind of place. Great for kids and bigger groups.
Preston Williams is working on his skills with Brandon Marshall, Josh Rosen has been practicing with Williams and Stills recently.
Mike must be in the Catskills
2 weeks to TC!!!!!!!!!!!!
Supplemental Draft is at 1 PM. Shouldn’t take long given how it works (explanation from Brian Miller).
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There is no time clock ticking down. It’s just a submission of your selection prior to the start of the draft.
Teams submit names to the league offices with a draft slot they are willing to take that player. If that player is there when the draft gets to that round, the team is “awarded” that player and then will lose that rounds draft pick the following year.
I know you all saw this, but JEEZ:
Some guy ranks each team’s Trips and we finish last. (Of course)
The Saints finish first with 140.5 points.
RANK 32 — MIAMI DOLPHINS (9.5 pts)
Quarterback: Josh Rosen — Rank: 32nd (One game: 31st | 2019 prod.: 32nd)
Running back: Kenyan Drake — Rank: 31st
Pass catcher: Kenny Stills — Rank: 31st
For the second year in a row, the Dolphins finish at the bottom in this exercise. And it might get worse in Miami before it gets better. Rosen ranks last among quarterbacks because his rookie season was such a wash, and because his offensive coordinator count has already hit three (four if you count his short minicamp stint with Kliff Kingsbury in April) before he’s even begun Year 2. That said, there were bright moments in what was otherwise a lost season, and in those moments, Rosen showcased some of the traits (accuracy, anticipation, poise in the pocket) that made him the 10th overall pick in the 2018 NFL Draft. I’m convinced the former UCLA passer will end up being a quality starter in this league. Although Drake’s rushing numbers dropped year-over-year, his receiving totals increased in basically every major category, so there’s hope he could put it all together in Year 4. Stills is the best of the Dolphins’ pass catchers, and he has yet to top 60 receptions or 900 yards in a season in South Beach since joining the team in 2015. That worries me, and it should probably worry Rosen.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001035106/article/2019-nfl-triplets-rankings-saints-chargers-browns-top-the-list
Guess we weren’t gonna come out well when it it it just the top guy at each position. Our strength for next season in those areas is depth at QB, RB and WR.
There were plenty of years when our QBs, RBs, or WRs sucked as a group, but this isn’t one of those years. I like what we have right now with our skilled positions on O.
Ola ALL YA”ALL MOB, GOFINS!!!
Gentlemen,
The Proper Attire Is AQUA & ORANGE!!!
Wassup 13kv?
I understand people not thinking we’ll be very good this year but I think some are way too critical of our roster.
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Tim — this time of year even the “experts” look for stars. Who on this roster even has a legit chance to make the Pro Bowl? I got X, Jones and not much else except a real outside chance for Tunsil.