Preseason Game 1 – Atlanta Falcons @ Miami Dolphins

Game action is here, but don’t get too excited. The players are probably pumped up, but preseason games don’t often show a lot about a team. Teams use the most basic and streamlined playbook. What these games are about is how your starters match up against the other team’s starters, how your two’s match up against the other teams two’s, and so on and so on.

Despite the fact that we won’t see any anything exotic from either team and from either side of the ball, we may get an idea how the team looks in the various formations, such as 3-4 rather 4-3 alignment. You know we’re going to see nickel and dime formations but there may be some wrinkles as to who is in them.

The starters in this game won’t all necessarily be the starters in the regular season Game 1. There’s definitely some experimentation and psychological warfare going on here. Flores is trying to motivate certain players to ascend while also giving some people an opportunity to flourish. It’s a common theme in the preseason, all teams do it.

What I’m looking for is for guys to execute their jobs well. On the offensive side, that means the O-line holds their blocks and win their individual battles. Same goes for the D-line, beat the guy in front of you.Due to the fact that the playbook (for both teams) will be basic, I want to see the RB’s be patient and find the hole, not try to bounce everything to the outside too quickly. I want to see the QB’s throwing to multiple receivers, WR’s, TE’s, and RB’s as well, but not an overload of check downs.

Atlanta has a lot talent on the offensive side of the ball. Matt Ryan will play sparingly, and because they recently placed 3rd string QB Kurt Benkert on IR, Matt Schaub and now 3rd stringer Matt Sims will get the majority of snaps. tevin Coleman is gone, but Devonta Freeman is still there and Coleman is replaced by Ito Smith. Julio Jones is still there but he will get limited snaps. The Falcons O-line is formidable and should be a good litmus test for our front 7. On defense the Falcons are less dangerous, allowing 423 points last season.

For the Dolphins, it will be very interesting to see how LG Michael Deiter fares, and also how RT Jordan Mills is coming back from injury. Besides LT Laremy Tunsil, everyone on the O-line is a question mark. RB’s 1A and 1B Drake and Ballage should both be motivated to show they deserve more carries, so that should be fun to watch. Parker, Stills and Wilson round out the WR’s with Gesicki starting at TE On defense, Harris and Carradine are the ends and rookie Christian Wilkins and Davon Godchaux are inside at DT. Baker at WLB and RaeMac in the middle and Alonso at SLB. As of now it shows Jones and BobbyMac at S, but Jones is in a walking boot so it may be TJ. Eric Rowe will be the CB opposite X. Keep an eye on Rowe because he should see a lot of action.

Let’s hope we see some good play, and no injuries and we’ll call the night a success!



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886 Responses to Preseason Game 1 – Atlanta Falcons @ Miami Dolphins

  1. wyoming85 says:

    We’re still #1!!!!!

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  3. Rockphin says:

    IF Rosen doesn’t work out I would prefer the Dolphins take Fromm or Hurbert over Tua.

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  5. stangerx says:

    Maybe like every year I give this team a homer edge — but still refuse to believe we will have the worst record in the league. Or is even the most likely one to have it (and yeah there is a difference btwn those two).

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  8. D says:

    I thought the pre-season game looked pretty ok. Offense at least looked like an offense and defense did too but they better clean up that missed tackle shit. Not a ton of penalties, for a first game it wasnt too bad at all.

  9. D says:

    If they get Clowney, our defense shoudl be pretty damn sick. Two OLB’s/DE’s with first round pedigrees. A interior DL/DE who is a beast. Just picked up a potential reboot who in his little time on th field flashed. Lots of depth and tweener type fillers on the outside and inside. Young fast LB’ers and hybrid saftey/lbs. One lock down CB and several others that can flex in and out of safety and nickle and outside.

  10. The Flying Pig says:

    The Clowney news is interesting

    I wouldn’t want to trade for him though

    the issue is money and the Texans are contemplating tagging him for the 2nd year on a row from what I hear

    That means he is probably going to get money close to Anthony Barr or Aaron Donald in addition to high picks if he is tagged

    That completely undermines our rebuilding process

    Let’s keep our picks and cap room

    • stangerx says:

      Clowney or anyone else like him sure doesn’t seem to fit with the process, but least according to the report the Phins were putting a “tail” in the water. And he is the right age…. but could just be his agent pushing it out.

  11. drg says:

    Yeah, I’d pass on Clowney too until we get a QB. Keep stockpiling young, hungry and cheap guys. I like what they’re doing so far. Not so concerned about tanking, because if Miami can win with this team it tells me the coaching staff is for real.

  12. D says:

    I disagree. We positioned ourselves this year to make big moves next year. We made draft capital available to move up in the draft or to use for trade bait. If they can work out a deal to get Clowney its even better than trading up to draft a DE since he is a proven commodity. He is still young and could anchor the defense for years. I dont think its outside the mantra at all since the only mantra we know id the one that they did this year setting up for next. The only real hitch i see is the if they feel we dont have our QB, and thats going to be based on what they are seeing not the slanted viewpoints we read. Yes, though if they think we dont have our guy they should save the draft capital and use it to get a QB that should be priority number 1 until we have him.

    • BailBondMike says:

      Thing to think about is do you give up that capital for a proven DE or draft one next year and keep building through the draft? He will have a huge contract. We have to resign Tunsil. The DE class next year is going be really good!

    • BailBondMike says:

      The DE class next year is talented and huge, we would not have to trade up to get one. You make a good point though. What is Clowney’s injury history? I remember him missing a few games.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Clowney had a slow start to his career with injuries but he’s been very good since.

      • D says:

        Clowney was injured for the first year, completely out of service, and he spent time recovering from it into the next year, but since then he hasnt been injured.

  13. D says:

    I think the rebuild process isnt so cut and dry, i think that they have already shown they are willing to make moves for big name guys, but i also think they are being smart about the cost. They went after Flowers in FA, but reached a cutoff point with the money they were willing to offer. They went after some FA QB’s but stopped at a cut off point that was higher than they wanted. They have shown interest in a lot of people, including Rosen, which the Cards were trying to get a first for, and they paid their price. IMO Clowney is a good move if they get him for what they are comfortable spending, and since they are making all these decisions we shouldn’t second guess it. I mean, we cant say its not in the model of what they are doing if they do it…can we?

  14. D says:

    Im good with whatever they do, but i just would like them to only take young guys unless a vet really helps them with a young group. In that the vet should be a short contract cheap guy anyways so its not long term damage of signing an aging vet to a long lucrative contract.

  15. Mike E. says:

    It depends on what they’re looking for in return. Clowney definitely isn’t too old, it’s about compensation. If there was a stud DE in this next draft, which there should be, I’d rather do that than trade. On the other hand, if we need a QB next year, then either way we don’t get one 1st RD because we used it on a DE, either drafting a DE or trading for Clowney

    • Tim Knight says:

      Like D said, we will have a price we’re willing to pay and if it’s not good enough to acquire him we move on.

    • D says:

      Mike, you also got to look at the gambling aspect. Trade a pick or a few picks and get a NFL vetted talent, or roll the dice on a guy out of college. Its a option and may feel better, but ultimately its a bit of a crap shoot.

  16. D says:

    he’s a very physical receiver im sure it has worn him down.

    • D says:

      After reading the article doesnt sound like it was that sounds like he lost the love for playing. Sad.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Yeah, the CBS article outlined his retirement without going into too much divisive detail (why I chose to post that one). From the stuff I read, he sounds disgruntled with the whole system.

  17. stangerx says:

    No Clowney for me. And guessing he will come with a high pick in the trade and high money. You can get those guys as FAs without the trade.

    • D says:

      Trade is to get him now and have the inside track on re-signing. You also cant normally get those kind of guys in FA without the price getting blown WAY up because there is so much compensation. When he is already on your roster though you can FT them, etc and if they walk in FA you get the compensation pick.

      • D says:

        Again, its not really up to me but i could see it being a good move for sure. I wouldnt be against it but if it doesnt happen, im chalking it up to more than they wanted to spend, which im glad if they walk away from it too

      • stangerx says:

        I assume any trade for him would come with a big old contract before. If comes in a trade otherwise…. trade price will at least be real low. But back to don’t think those the kind of moves we want to do. But been wrong before….many befores. 🙂

  18. Mike E. says:

    D -You sure it’s not up to you? I thought you were one of their top consultants. 🙂

  19. Tim Knight says:

    NFL teams look to acquire talented players in all sorts of ways. Top level proven talent is never cheap. Clowney is an elite pass rusher and they aren’t cheap as we all know. But I don’t think we’ll land him. Glad our FO explores all avenues though.

  20. Tim Knight says:

    So we’re going to have joint practices with TB leading up to the game. Good stuff, TC is so limited teams need this.

  21. naplesfan2010 says:

    I’d be worried that Clowney would take the money and never give 100% again.
    I don’t trust his work ethic.
    I don’t trust Nkemdiche’s either, but he’s about 10 cents on the dollar what we’ll pay for Clowney,
    so it’s not such a big loss.
    I think Clowney could be Suh 2.0 for us, and that would sicken me.

  22. Rockphin says:

    It is my sincere hope ( but I don’t believe for a moment it will come true) that we have finally acquired the right GM / HC combo to create a new dynasty in Miami where we can have things like the no-name defense and not have to overpay all our players and still not get any return. The past decade Miami has made several players the highest paid ever at there positions ( those salaries since have been eclipsed) And had less than 50% wins. I hope Florez and his coordinators can be great enough to keep winning with no names Kind of like Miami Marlins two World Series

  23. pheloniusphish says:

    Clowney had microfracture surgery on his knees his first year I believe. Has to be a reason Houston would let him walk – either they are worried about his long term health or he is asking for a bunch of money. I would rather develop our own.

    Here is his injury history:

  24. sb7mvp says:

    Stay the course. I think I heard that somewhere before.

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  26. ocalarob says:

    if we’re taking a page from the pats, no way do they over pay FA’s, didn’t we learn with Suh?

  27. Tim Knight says:

    I think Clowney will be too rich to acquire for us but nothing wrong with exploring it.

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  39. pheloniusphish says:

    Rosen had to get time with the starters. Now if they would untuck the OL.

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  50. CavalierKong says:

    Thanks, Wyo. You’ve been keeping the place alive with updates. It’s nice to pop in when I get a moment or two and get the play by play from camp. You are much appreciated!

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  53. Mike E. says:

    LMAO! The only positive thing Omar can say about Rosen is that his beard is flourishing.

  54. Mike E. says:

    I like that Flores is calling Rosen out. That means he wants his to step up.

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  57. Mike E. says:

    Nothing worse than ballage cramps

  58. bailbondmike says:

    Hope we get an update on Drake and Hanks

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  60. D says:

    Mike E. says:
    August 12, 2019 at 3:59 pm

    D -You sure it’s not up to you? I thought you were one of their top consultants. 🙂
    I definately never recieve a paycheck for it at least lol. Maybe one day. lol

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  62. D says:

    The fan in us feel certain ways about players or big moves due to several factors.

    First, conservative moves, aren’t scary, big moves are, and they have a potential for never reaching their value, but ill say some of the biggest moves in the NFL have paid the biggest dividends too.

    Secondly, we have been burned in the past by some big moves, this also left us, as fans with distrust in the organization making those move and in players who get big contracts.

    All the rebuttals i see to the Clowney argument seem focused on what could happen, and a persons reservation that it will go bad, because it did in the past.

    This is a different FO, its a different coaching staff, it seems to be a very cohesive group too with input from either side. I just think in this case, with as much new here, you shouldn’t downplay their ideas. There is no link to them and the past situation, so why burden them with the consequence of the past. They have made smart moves, or so it seems, so far, so i have to feel like if they are interested in Clowney, then that has to be inline with their philosophy towards getting good young players. Again, if they do it, then its absolutely inline with what they want, because they are the ones doing it.

    Clowney isn’t Suh, he’s 26, he’s establishing him as one of the elites, his work ethic has never been in question, not in HS, not in college, and not in the Pro’s, why would he change that all of a sudden.

    Again, im not trying to push the Clowney thing, i just think i haven’t heard one reason why we shouldn’t that wasn’t rife with fan fear. We as fans shouldnt fear what the FO does, thats kinda their job and their prerogative, also it will or wont happen despite what we feel so why get nervous about it lol. You gotta let them do their thing, failure is always part of the potential outcome, but so is success and we have forgotten that.

  63. D says:

    Mike E. says:
    August 13, 2019 at 2:12 pm

    Nothing worse than ballage cramps
    Havent ever had them, is it because yours hang so low because you are very very old?

  64. D says:

    wyoming85 says:
    August 13, 2019 at 11:53 am

    NFL evaluators are very optimistic about the potential of the upcoming offensive tackle draft class.

    An early look at my top-20 senior OTs, top-10 underclassmen OTs and the top-5 overall at the position:

    — Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) August 13, 2019
    This is what i was trying to say last year about not needing to go OL early in the draft. This class coming up looks really deep. Im glad we got Dieter though i think he is going to be a good one.

  65. D says:

    Im not worried about our OL, these reserver type guys need the snaps, take deep breaths its early.

    • stangerx says:

      I’m worried about it. For me, best case is average and goes down from there. Only above average player we have is Tunsil.

      • D says:

        I see more to be optimistic about in this group than i have in a while. Kilgore to me is a pretty solid OC, Deiter seems to be coming along really well at LG and i like Davis and Mills on the right side. We just havent seen any of that group together in the PS so far. Im not sure why its a worry when we havent even seen the group together.

      • steveccnv says:

        It’s not about what each guys is, it’s about the group as a whole, if you have 3 all pros and 2 Colonblows, then your line will suck.

      • steveccnv says:

        D, Mills? Really.

  66. D says:

    Mills has been a starter in this league. Davis started last year for us. Deiter is new but he what i saw of him looked solid in the first game. Tunsil is elite. Kilgore is not a stud but he is solid and has a few years of starting experience. Most OL’s dont look any better than that. Most of the Pats OL’s arent better than that during the years they won Superbowls.

    • D says:

      Is everyone expecting a probowler at all positions? Thats a unicorn.

      • steveccnv says:

        No, just a cohesive unit. Deiter is ripe, so he’s going to need some time, then the spot not manned by Davis is going to be even more of a WIP.

  67. naplesfan2010 says:

    Did you guys see that double move that Preston Williams put on some poor guy for TB?

  68. ElephantRider says:


    If I can make the fest, like only a week or so notice, will there be tickets available?

    • Mike E. says:

      Not Stanger but we usually have a couple of extra tix

    • stangerx says:

      ER — tunes with the dog on Fri, D&B’s on Sat nite, and the tailgate no problem. Will always be tix for the game. Only thing can’t guarantee is in the group section, but chances are would be OK for that. Just don’t want to make promises might not be able to keep.

      • ElephantRider says:

        Ok cool. Would hate sitting by myself…but wouldn’t be the end of the world.

      • Rockphin says:

        ERider! If it were to happen that there were no more seats available in the section and buy some miracle every other seat in the section was taken I will swap tickets with you and let you sit with the group and they don’t like me yelling at them anyway if it were to happen that there were no more seats available in the section and by some miracle every other seat in the section was taken I will swap tickets with you and let you sit with the group and they don’t like me yelling at them anyway 🤬

  69. Rockphin says:

    Weird iPhone glitch that last post

  70. Tim Knight says:

    Preston Williams looks to be a real steal for us as a UDFA. Yeah he’s got to prove it in games but he really does look the part.

    • steveccnv says:

      When the national media recognizes him we know he’s doing something right, because we know how they hate us.

  71. Rockphin says:

    Rosen said.

    “I think I have a special skill-set that when I put those two together, it could be special. But it’s going to be a long road.”

    Long road…..short bus. 🚎

  72. Tim Knight says:

    So right now it sounds like the starting OL could be:
    LT Tunsil
    LG Deiter
    C Kilgore
    RG Calhoun
    RT Davis

  73. son of a son of a shula says:

    ER, that would be awesome if you can make it and trust me you won’t be sitting alone. (My wife might be but you won’t, lol)

  74. manitobafinfan says:

    Rock : you yelling Stand The Fuck Up at us is one of the things my Wife most remember s and looks forward to every year … ER hope ya can make it work out. You’ll have a lotta fun

  75. manitobafinfan says:

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    If anyone is interested in joining the FMU fantasy league shoot me an email .. had 8 teams last year, I have 6 confirmed returns.. so as long as I keep an even number all is good … just fun no cash involved..

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  76. Rockphin says:

    Tim Knight says:
    August 13, 2019 at 6:32 pm
    Yeah hope they can find the starting 5 soon so they can start to build chemistry

    Chemistry? At this point I think we’re going to need alchemy!!

    • Tim Knight says:

      Communication and consistency is just as important as talent. Obviously you need to able to play, but a lot of our problems over the years on the OL was very little communication and consistency because we could never keep 5 or even 4 guys healthy as a unit. All it takes is one guy to blow an assignment and the play can fail.

  77. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, Mills played LT and he’s not a LT.

  78. steveccnv says:

    “I think it’s something that – I’m looking for good body language out of everybody,” Flores said.

    This is the kind of little thing that really means a lot, that Flores does, he gets it.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Flores is all about fundamentals and passion and selflessness. If you don’t have those you won’t be here long. Talent is always important, but he wants more than that from his players. That’s what the T.N.T wall is all about.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      This was directed at Rosen.
      Apparently Rosen was sulking or showing temper at a bad play either he made or someone made that messed up a play when he was QB.

      I agree with Steve that this is good coaching, but it is also that thing people said they did not like about Rosen.

      He’s a perfectionist and that combined with not being mindful of the impression one is having on people is problematic for an NFL QB.

      However, Brady does it, and Flores was there. Maybe as the DC, Flores did not respect that in Brady.

  79. naplesfan2010 says:

    Antonio Brown arrived at the Raiders TC in a Lamborghini.

    Garofalo says the Texans could trade Clowney “quickly” if the deal is right.

    • steveccnv says:

      Count us out, but lol, if they back up a brinks trucks worth of compensation we’ll gladly trade him. Really?

  80. naplesfan2010 says:

    I knew someone was going to play the Marino card, and other QBs do it ,too, but the way Marino did it was one of his gifts. He was a great leader, and he could ream guys out, and they’d just try harder.

    I’m not saying no one resented it when Marino would call them out in front of the whole stadium or in the huddle, as i have since read where some guys did not like that about Marino. But in the moment, it seemed to work for him as far as getting guys motivated.

    Notice the defense did not respond as well, though.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I was pointing out that being pissed off or a little sulk is normal. But what Flores is suggesting is Rosen needs to put it behind him, get pumped up and motivate the next play. But emotions are a part of the game.

    • steveccnv says:

      Marino held guys accountable, if you made a bad TNT play, he was going to let you and everyone else know. Fuck it, do your job, or put your big boy pants on and take it like a man.

  81. son of a son of a shula says:

    Clowney would make Harris available should we get him and a huge upgrade at the position.

  82. naplesfan2010 says:

    The thing about Preston’s receptions in the Atlanta game is they were not routine and not all the same type. It was the definition of “putting on a clinic.”

    One time he showed advanced mastery of the toe tapping on the sideline.
    Another time he caught the ball with one hand coming in over his shoulder while running full speed.
    Another time he made an acrobatic adjustment on a dying duck throw Rosen made that showed extreme catch radius AND presence of mind at the same time.

    And a 4th time he high-pointed a deep pass and held on even though the CB had his arm between Williams’s arms and was trying to rip the ball out the whole way to the ground.

    So he showed strength, speed, agility, ball skills, and late adjustment on a bad throw.
    That’s quite a list of highlights on just 4 catches. And that is all legit.

    The only thing we did not see is RAC yards. He was not thrown any balls of that type.

    Not that he did not chew up yardage though.
    He averaged 24 yards per reception, even without any running after the catch.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      He certainly looks the part. He might develop into a huge weapon for us. The high point catch was incredible, as you said with the defenders arm inside. Strong hands.

    • Tim Knight says:

      He looks like the real deal and is the surprise of camp or is he? Nobody doubted he has talent.

  83. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, not a lot of guys can play LT that’s why it’s a premium position. Why do you keep lowering the depth chart against Mills? He started. LOL

    • steveccnv says:

      Not a lot of guys can play LT against real NFL talent, but he sucked against scrubs. I’m giving him shit because he sucked. The guy we had last year at RT moved over to LT several times in his career and did fine, and that was in a real game.

      You don’t get the reputation you’re a good RT, just because of the number of games you started. Buffalo had a bad OL.

  84. son of a son of a shula says:

    Marino didn’t sulk or present body language that looks weak (for lack of a better word) nor does Brady. Getting pissed off and sulking are very different things. I’m not sure that Rosen necessarily sulks but what we know of demeanor it wouldn’t surprise me. It’s good that coach is trying to weed that out of him.

  85. Tim Knight says:

    It seems that Chris Reed is being groomed as a backup C/G and handling that role well. From what I’ve heard or read is he’ll likely be the game day interior backup.

  86. Tim Knight says:

    Another thing to remember is the coaching staff and the players are going through this for the first time together. New systems for all the players. There is nothing accomplished with this team other than a handful of players who have proven themselves as quality players. Everyone is learning about themselves and each other everyday. It’s gonna take some time to become a cohesive team. But I’ll say that 1st PS game was entertaining and not as bad as I expected. 🙂

  87. pheloniusphish says:

    Rosen has Resting Bitch Face. He cannot help it.

  88. son of a son of a shula says:

    Reed can man the role of backup interior line our week spot is going to the 3rd or 4th Tackle. I hope Prince can help us.
    If we come out of this season with Deiter as a quality starter and Price as a quality backup if not pushing to start that would be maybe our best OL draft since Webb and Sims.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yeah tackle will be interesting to watch. We’ll know more after the PS. We need at least one swing tackle who can be at least serviceable.

      C Kilgore
      C/G Reed
      G Deiter
      G Calhoun
      LT Tunsil
      RT/RG Davis

      I think these guys make the team, who are the other three specifically at tackle?

  89. steveccnv says:

    Wilkins with a big play on the goal line 4th qtr championship game. Replay on ESPN

  90. Tim Knight says:

    I find it funny that we now have to focus on player expressions specifically at QB. Seriously? LOL

    That’s not what Flores is talking about. He’s talking about regrouping and leading the huddle, not his first reaction to a bad play. Are we going to become this fickle with New Bae? 😉

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