The score tells the story, the stats tell the story, but eyeballing that garbage really told the story. There was hardly anything to hang your hat on from Sunday’s game. The Ravens played another game of “Who’s Your Daddy” and just knocked our dicks in the dirt for 60 minutes. TE Mark Andrews was targeted 8 times, how many catches do you think he had? Yup, 8. So much for our LB’s and safeties being better in coverage. I said Eric Rowe was going to have a tough time being targeted often and oh bot did that rear its ugly head. WR Marquise “Hollywood” Brown torched us for 4 catches for 147 yards and 2 TD’s. Rowe looked woefully inadequate and the scary part is we probably don’t have anyone on the roster better.
OK, let me get this out of the way immediately. This is NOT tanking. Yes, we have set ourselves up for success for next season and beyond by acquiring a substantial amount of draft capital, but the plan is not to lose as many games as possible. The truth is, we’re just not good, especially against a well coached Ravens team. Harbaugh always has his team prepared, and the gap between Harbaugh and Flores at this juncture is significant. John Harbaugh is in his 12th year as Ravens coach, their system is in and has been in for a long time. Sure, they evolve with the different players, especially QB Lamar Jackson, but they have a way of doing things that has been done now for over 11 years. That makes a difference.
The game started with RB Mark Ingram ripping off a 49 yard run in where he was chased down by Xavien Howard from behind, and untouched until Howard finally caught him. Those of us that thought the run defense would be better were rudely shown otherwise. The Ravens went 89 yards in 4:26 and made it look exceedingly easy doing so. That surely set the tone for what was to come. Dominance in every facet of the game over our unprepared Dolphins. At this stage of my life, for my sanity and other health concerns, I have to turn the game off and look for other things that don’t raise my blood pressure 50 points and don’t have me feeling like I want to kick my neighbors dog. I don’t remember exactly what point of the game I turned it off, but I turned it back on and saw Josh Rosen in at QB. Fitzgerald wasn’t hurt, so why put Rosen in this shitstorm? Poor decision by the rookie HC. Not a good situation to get any kind of fair evaluation there so why bother?
I’m not hating on Coach Flo, this was his first game against a better team and much more established Head Coach in his 12th year with the same team. It showed every bit of that disparity. So what happens from here? We face the New England Patriots next week in Foxborough. The Patriots beat a much better team than us handily, crushing the Pittsburgh Steelers 33-3. Now every week is different, we’ve that time and time again, so anything can happen. I would assume our players have pride so after a beating like yesterday, they will want to come out and play much better football, and it’s going to take that and more to beat the Patriots in New England, where they rarely lose. To expect the Dolphins to upset the Patriots would take a Miami Miracle. Can that happen two years in a row?
GO DOLPHINS!!
#staythecourse
Finsmob Unleashed 
Major props to the defense that has been on the field all day. The offense needs something.
The defense sucked in the first quarter, being fresh didn’t help either
No major props for being non competitive
When the day comes the team can compete, then they might win one
Damnit Grant almost busted that
Rowe is like “c’mon man you never called that last year. Oh wait.”
Lol jeez
That’s all Ryan Fitzpatrick
Can we end the Fitzmagic era?
Error not era tifi
I actually spelled it like that the first time. LOL
I’m a little behind real time.
So is Fitzpatrick
The only thing I’ve seen from two games so far is that almost none of our guys are good enough. This is going to take more than two drafts to fix. I’m done with watching. I’ll be back for the draft unless they actually start Rosen at some point. That’s the smart plan, and until they do it, I’m not wasting my time on this team. See ya guys later for our weekly discussions but I’m done with Sundays.
Good idea
Lol we suck so bad the changed the game
Goodness gracious, Ballage with the 6 point gift
At least that was not on Fitzpatrick
Oh my
the 38-10 score I picked should be close, except I can’t fathom how we score 10 points
I think it is fair Ballage is not a good receiver for a RB
Okay that was ridiculous. Ugh!!!!
but I’m ready for Rosen.
Why put Rosen in now?
Just saw the Fitz toss a pass that turned into a pick 6
SMH he threw it right to the defender
There is no chance for him to be successful now
Fucking Grant has to make that catch. Nothing goes right
Beautiful throw but…
Nice cannon
Hopefully Goodell isn’t watching, or the tank for Tua dumb ass idea will completely backfire
2 sure TD’s dropped. Doesn’t show up in the stats
Are you fucking kidding me?
Another really nice one
LOL – Apparently Rosen doesn’t throw a catchable ball, McCourty dropped one too
WASN’T GONNA POST ON THIS GAME UNTIL IT WAS OVER, But this totally pathetic performance made my wife chase me into the far room where we’ve got our 2nd TV. “DON’T COME BACK HERE (Living Room) UNTIL THIS GAME IS OVER” she ordered!!!
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This 30-0 total debacle FEELS LIKE a 60-0 loss! And, indeed, Ross’s minnows have been outscored 89-10 in the last two home games which, of course, is A DOLPHINS ALL-TIME RECORD FOR FUTILITY TO START ANY SEASON!!!
THIS OUGHT TO GET MINKAH to the airport in RECORD TIME!!!
and it ought to cause potential draft picks to tell ROSS — “Don’t you dare draft me to play for your putrid team!!!”
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STEVE ROSS, THE WORST DOLPHINS OWNER IN HISTORY!!!
MInkah trade him now!
Don’t be surprised if a contender picks him up for next-to-nothing.
Just start the Rosen era, let him take his lumps but his arm is so superior to Fitz it’s not even a question.
This is why I said don’t put him in now
KEN, thinking logically is the furthest thing from Ross’s football mind!!
The FBI might be tracking you because of your bizarre Ross hate. It’s getting pretty fuckin weird.
TIM; I don’t hate Ross personally. It’s his judgment that I’ve been challenging. And, FYI, the FBI generally doesn’t track people’s opinions, especially when their opinions prove to be a fact.
Rosen shows some fire at least
Our guys would have dropped that
Practice a 2 minute drive here.
We got lucky Rosen didn’t take a season ending injury. It was so stupid of Ross to put him in the game.
Of course
Two missed PATs and being generous with Miami scoring on them or I would have been locked in. Maybe if they had Rosen playing longer than part of the 4th….
Nice
A show of heart
Love it
Well there is 3 hours of my life that I won’t get back
I wish they’d just kicked the FG to avoid a shutout
Rosen has more yards in a couple drives than Fitz all game, He looked better after 2 weeks on offseason play….still on the bench while Fitz sucks. These coaches looking like they can’t evaluate talent much less adjust to other teams. .
OUR COACHES CAN’T EVALUATE TALENT??? J. Edgar Hoover will come out of his grave to get you, New Age!!
I’d be shocked if we didn’t start Rosen next week.
lost the farm today, i can’t believe i let stanger talk me in to tanking those points!
Rosen should be starting. Fitz is a good fall back who can hold the fort. But he’s not part of the future. Rosen might be.
The entire team is going through a transition so why not go young at QB as well?
OK Cincy, Jax, Chargers, Titans and maybe Steelers all lost, so we are still in the playoff hunt.
WELL, TIM, the Dolphins have now been outscored 102-10 in their first two games. I guess that, for sure, will get me investigated by the FBI, right?? Hell, if I were you, I’d apply right now for a job with them!!!
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Y’all have a great night, now. We are one game closer to the end of the Steve Ross Era.
the ol sucks
Well, fuck.
actually i thought the defense played pretty good, the offense is the problem, they can’t stay on the field, the running game sucks, no pass protection and when we do get a play off it goes the other way for a TD.
We did 6 points better this week.
If we keep that strong upward trend going,
in 6 weeks we’ll be a 2-pt conversion away from our first w.
We definitely improved in a number of areas.
ONE commentator suggested “The 2019 Dolphins are now in the conversation when discussing the worst team ever in the National Football team. O-16 is now a distinct possibility.”
THAT’s “League,” not “team.”
OD, I’m well aware of the results. That wasn’t the point.
Breaking News: The Miami Dolphins are rebuilding. Circa March 2019
Rob – I agree, the defense did pretty well considering they were on the field for 50 minutes
It was 13-0 at the half with no support from the offense and that continued until the end and Fitz is done.
I don’t care who we play, I don’t want to see Ryan Fitzpatrick in our offensive huddle again this season.
You play Rosen here and find out if he can be your QB. We all know we’re in good position to get the new savior QB in next year’s draft. Find out now if that may not be the case.
Not only that, can Flores honestly say at this point that RF gives them the best chance to win? I don’t think he can do that at this point.
No!
Glad my Sunday ticket didn’t auto renew
Too late for me. I don’t expect I will be wasting much time watching our team, there are other games that will interest me though. Especially with FF
The Mets are still in it even though it’s going to take something special to win that last wildcard spot.
Mike, start a new young offense and get excited to get better. Fitz is a progress stopper. I know you know that. I’m just venting without doing anything crazy. LOL
FUck, Cards give up grandslam in the 9th. Down to a 2 game lead BBM. We still have the Nationals and Diamondbacks left, and 7 against the Cubs.
Flipping Pit gives up 17, 14, and 15+ in 3 games. Didn’t even show up against ya’ll.
LOL… the life of a sports fan.
LOL, that is the truth, brother.
1. Start Rosen and see what you have. He started a bunch of games last year so it’s not like he’s a virgin. LOL
2. Keep working on the OL and finding out who fits on offense.
3. Keep teaching the defense, I see some promise there.
4. STs are solid but could get better.
5. Trust the plan and stay the course.
No reason for Fitz to play another game.
And everyone had their pitchforks out for RT17……
Exactly
There really is ZERO reason to start Fitz over Rosen next week. If they still refuse to give Rosen the start, I’m seriously questioning their evaluation process.
Or the tanking process is in full effect. Either way I will lose all respect for Flores
Yeah, I think I might go full David for a moment if we start Fitz again next week, lol.
LMAO at Full David
Lmao Cav, I’m happy my basketball team won,
the 14-17 year olds are more manly than this bunch of clowns masquerading as professional football players
I have a 15 year old that would Do better than Ryan Fitzpatrick
And OD is right, this is all on Ross, it’s HIS show
Two games I a row they put Rosen in the game In the worst situation
This switch to Rosen should have happened by mid 3qtr at the latest, I wanted Fitz pulled too
But much earlier – what are these coaches doing?
Smart Pig. Dumb coaches
Wow, KC
Mahomes last 5 completions have each gone for over 30 yards. He’s got 4 TDs and 280 yds in just the 2nd quarter.
I didn’t pay close attention to the game today, anyone notice if “The Prisoner” had a good game or not? Where he played?
He recovered a fumble
That I did see, he was just right there when it was stripped. Anything else?
Not much else but his name was not being called for getting toasted
I think he was paired with McCain all game.
he isn’t as much of a prisoner as You are, lol jus sayin
Mahomes sucks. His last pass was only 27 yds. So six straight completions of 25+
I’ve heard people comparing Jordan Love to Mahomes
Dolphins 3 Cowboys 2
LOL
My heart to heart with Ross after getting blown out in two games
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQTVq6zdCUC-5_WVhYpl_XOujRBG01ZbmKgcYt_AtybDiOtZYpH
If Flores won’t start Rosen, we need a coach that will
Rosen won the preseason , and Fitz is starting?,
Flores can’t possibly be blind, he has to be in on the tank job,
I never thought he would be, but he obviously is
Fuck Ross, he’s a selfish idiot, and Flores needs to start the best players, and get his shit together, or he shouldn’t be here for game 4
I personally think he is going to wait until the Redskins game so we get through the brutal 4 games we start the season with
It’s an excellent strategy, right? Lol and SMH
This has to be the bottom, in 5 years we may have a 5 win season
Can we set up the fest tailgate near the Scarlett’s tailgate
Now that’s a fest
This is much more interesting than Fitz tossing pick 6 es
Here is what I have taken from the first 2 weeks besides we have a long way to go. First, this defense needs a good CB opposite X. We obviously need a pass rusher and a safety if Fitz gets traded. On offense we basically need everything. Keep Dieter, the TEs, and Preston, the rest who cares.
I’m thinking QB, CB, OT, and DE with our first 4 picks. I’m on the Joe Burrow bandwagon at QB in the draft. That may allow us to draft Andrew Thomas the OT from Georgia. I also like Paulson Adebo from Stanford at CB and a luxury pick of D’Andre Swift the RB from Georgia.
I like Joe too. He’s the first LSU QB with a real OC and it’s refreshing. Ed Orgeron may be a good ole boy but he got him a good OC.
The kid has done a lot to become what he currently is. He’s put in a lot of work.
now I see why Flores was an assistant for 15 years, ,that’s what he is
SFBJ!
That’s racist 🤓
Yes the last time I was there you could get one of those in SF! 😉
OK BOYZ & GIRLZ; I picked the Fins to lose 48-6. They lost 43-0.
DO I GET the Tim Knight-Kool Aid drinker of the week Award???
You get the brick wall medal.
This one is for OD
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/1173369935004864512?s=21
THANKS, Piggy!!! I guess if he can carry Ross’s jacket, he’s qualified to become GM and/or Director of Scouting!!
Wait a minute. Isn’t that T-Baum’s oldest son???
So it’s about a 79 year old owner, not players on the field/? Got it! Someday we’ll understand what a rebuild “Blow It Up” looks like. Just keep hating on that guy. I wonder what it is about him that bothers some so much. Hmmm… be honest. Just say it. I know the answer. You don’t have the balls to say it. But keep on keep’n on.
I DO HAVE THE BALLS TO SAY IT, Timmy. Ross didn’t know shit about football when he bought the team. And he didn’t know who to hire to run his franchise for him. THAT’s WHY he’s made one bad choice after another for HC, GM, President of Football Operations and head of the scouting department. And then there’s his utter fiasco of a ticket department, which is, by far, the WORST I’ve ever encountered. And need we care to mention his pissing off of the state legislature when he sent Mike Dee, his lackey, to Tallahassee to threaten them they better throw in some public tax money to help fix-up Sun-Baked Stadium while he was planning to GIVE AWAY $400,000,000 to the U. of Michigan?? Ross most assuredly IS NOT CHEAP. He’s just football stupid. AND THAT has led him to make mistake after mistake throughout the entire 10 plus years of his disastrous reign of failure.
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His plan to tear down the franchise and re-start the franchise is doomed to utter failure UNLESS he decides to sell the team this off season. IF Ross chooses to retain the franchise, good coaches WILL NOT WORK FOR HIM!! Competent people WILL NOT apply for other front office positions. FREE AGENTS who could really stabilize the franchise will head elsewhere. And kids coming out of college will pull a “JOHN ELWAY” and tell Miami NOT to draft them. NOBODY WANTS TO COME TO MIAMI under these circumstances. And no one will.
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I’ve made this guarantee before and I’ll make it, again. The Miami Dolphins WILL NOT WIN A PLAYOFF GAME AS LONG AS STEVE ROSS OWNS A MAJORITY OF THE TEAM!! – – DO YOU HAVE THE BALLS, TIMMY, TO BET ME $100 ON THIS???
It’s going to be difficult to lure key FAs to Miami next year with this type of culture. We knew it was going to be bad… but nobody thought it would be THIS bad… and that we’d unload nearly all of our younger talent… including Tunsil and Minkah (<– coming this week, according to Armando).
It doesn't matter who starts at QB, our QBs are doomed: ya start Ryan Fitzpatrick if ya want to keep Josh Rosen from getting DLS* (David Carr Syndrome), vice-versa and we learn nothing about Rosen… but doesn't it really matter at this point???
Somebody in the FO or coaching staff screwed up BIG TIME in the execution of said "tank". I don't know how Coach Flores will survive after the season. We're going to need a fresh new face (HC) with MASSIVE promise.
I'm already reading the rumors that Flores was set up to be a 'fall guy', and that Jim Harbaugh will be our new HC come 2020. I don't even have a guess as to what's true or false any longer with our team.
Well that proves that Ross isn’t cheap because Flores has a guaranteed 4 or 5 year contract. LOL
I swear to ALL one thing: I have NEVER once said that Steve Ross is cheap when it comes to our Phins’ roster and coaching staff. In fact, he’s spent WAY too much on pricey FAs (see Suh, re-signing Tannehill, etc) through bad advice from his GMs over the past.
My only gripe with RO$$? He continues to hire ‘yes men’ who either know little about football, or have been failures… just like HWH (RIP), until he hired Parcells (though the game had already passed Parcells by).
RO$$ has gone from King Carl Peterson, to Mike Tannenbaum, to let’s just tank… which has become — at least IMO — an inadvertent ‘scorched Earth policy’.
M13, it was a joke. But now we know how you feel too. LOL
So what Ross and Grier said we were going to do back in March has changed? 6 months later and the baffled are still baffled. Okay. 😉
When people post pics of nuclear “BLOW IT UP” pics be prepared when that actually happens and what that means. 😉
Agreed.
It’s what happens the next 2 years……
But they have to get competitive sooner than later
I don’t think ya read me right, man. I only have ONE beef with RO$$, and it’s been the one that continues to kick his own azz. He’s not cheap, and I admire that about him. He just can’t surround himself with the right football people.
What’s more, “BLOW IT UP” NEVER came with the advertisement that we’d rid ourselves of our latest and youngest talent. I mean, NOBODY thought “BLOW IT UP” warranted a trade of Tunsil and Minkah… that’s nearly unprecedented.
I’m beginning to believe the initial reports that there was a coup brewing in the locker room when Tunsil was being shopped around. Ya just DON’T trade away young talent (that’s what ya BUILD upon!!!), but I think our FO was offered a deal they couldn’t resist in return for Tunsil.
IMO, that’s when “BLOW IT UP” turned into an inadvertent ‘scorched Earth policy’… THAT is what precipitated the likes of Minkah to say, ‘yeah, this isn’t being done correctly’.
Ya BUILD(!!!) on the young talent ya have, even in a “BLOW IT UP” scenario. Our FO has now ostracized all of our young talent, and many of them suddenly want out. BAD MOVE… to the tune of a former Cleveland Browns funk up.
My take is Isadora isn’t a bad RG, Deiter is a rookie but playing pretty well overall. Kilgore not so much. Davis is not good at LT I’d move him back to the right and put Webb at LT.
Defense played better but the secondary is playing poorly. Hard to pin it on any one since they are rotating them a lot but obviously we are a player or two short there from having a good unit.
Fitz obviously isn’t the answer at QB but we knew that already. I wouldn’t start Rosen for a couple more games to give the OL more time to gel. He should be our starter by bye though and I’ll be upset if he isn’t.
There were some positives in the game despite the outcome and we just have to keep growing and building so when Rosen does start he has a good chance to be successful.
My draft next year would be OL, DE/OLB, and CB as my top 3 picks.
Our opponents are scoring 10 times more points than us
Our opponents were the reigning SB champs and a AFC contender. We are still in preseason game 2 as far as the players we have having played together. I don’t see it as anything but expected. I wish it weren’t like this but this is the fact of where we are in our rebuild
And why are we in ‘preseason game 2’? Because we couldn’t resist trading Tunsil for two #1s and a 2nd RIGHT BEFORE week 1. After we traded Tunsil, the players revolted and Flores lost the locker room.
Sad! We don’t even have to TRY to tank… we just really suck that bad.
It’s funny when people can’t handle what they call for. Am I surprised we’re this bad? Yes! But a rebuild is painful. At least the AB jerkoff session is almost over. LOL
I agree with ya, in general. I just don’t think we were prepared for what I’ll now call the TUNSIL REVOLT. Yes, it’s way worse than what we were prepared for… and I don’t think our FO planned it to be THIS bad.
I mean, we no longer — as currently constituted in 2019, aside from X and maybe Baker — have a young and solid foundation to build upon.
No player would survive what Houston gave for Tunsil (let’s face it they threw Stills in to get rid of).
I would trade any player for that. Tunsil wasn’t locked up long term and we know what happens when players aren’t.
TIM KNIGHT: OFFER for YOU up the page below your 7:19 post. DO YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO ACCEPT THIS OFFER???
Well, do ya???????
WHY TIMMY, WHERE HAVE YOU DISAPPEARED TO??? DON’T HAVE THE CAJONES??? Why don’t you get to the Fest and we can talk this over??? Or don’t you go to Dolphin games???
I’m willing to bet $100 that Mr. Knight is not hiding from you….LOL
ElephantRider says:
September 15, 2019 at 8:38 pm
No player would survive what Houston gave for Tunsil (let’s face it they threw Stills in to get rid of).
I would trade any player for that. Tunsil wasn’t locked up long term and we know what happens when players aren’t.
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I must admit, if I’m Chris Grier, I’m making the Tunsil/Stills trade to the Texans 100 times out of 100… it was a STEAL!!! However, I think it came with some unintended consequences: the locker room, particularly our young talent.
It is what it is, and I’m just opining on what may have happened to precipitate a youth revolt on our beloved team. I now DO believe that some revolted after Tunsil was shopped and then ultimately traded, as was initially reported.
It’s going to be a LONG year, my man ER! I hope we can stomach this year in order to reach greater success in the future.
Yep. Agree with you. It’ll be a ride the next couple years. Lol
I understand players being upset. It happened so close to the start of the season.
But, they get paid good money and they need to be the pros. Suck it up, go to work and get better
ABSOLUTELY agreed, ER. No doubt about it! This ‘cream-puffery’ only serves to pizz me off. I’m with Mike E on Minkah.
RIP rick Ocasek
RIP, Ric Ocasek
DLox,
It’s good to see you posting!
dloxahatchee, I hope ya don’t mind me calling ya DLox, dude!
Cream-puffery
I like that! Gonna steal it M.
The thing about Tunsil was we were going to have to pay him soon, would paying him be in line with our progress? maybe a little down the road however when you consider two #1s and a #2 that was the straw that broke the camels back.
LOL, so when panties are wedged in asshole I get called Timmy. LMFAO!!!!
You still can’t say it. Come on… say it, just say it, you know you want to. Ross is nothing more than a NY… say it!
Geez now Ric Ocasek. Damn… 😦 RIP Ric.
So many we grew up with , are fading away
RIP and Peace to the Ocasek family
The Dolphins are certain — certain! — they’re going to get a first-round draft pick for the defensive back. And they’re confident they might get an extra piece of compensation in the deal as well — perhaps a player, or maybe a lower-round draft pick.
Miami Herald
Wow, that’s a lot, if that’s true, then it’s best Miami take the picks, nothing going on this year anyway
Dolphins game song
ER, I was hiding behind a snack. LOL
Well you are supposed to be here at all times to respond apparently.
I think he’s the one hiding from my bet. LOL
If Miami can get a first and another pick or comp, that’s more than We used to draft Minkah in the first place, this is a no brainer, it’s better for Miami, and better for Minkah
This season is a wash, Minkah can’t save this shitshow by himself, it’s best we just get more picks and try to do something next year, tank for Tua
There isn’t any NFL player that could make this current Dolphin team , a great team, lol
Some would come close, but this team is geared for 2020
Let’s hope Rosen doesn’t tire of gettting garbage time minutes , coming into games down 40-50 points, Rosen can’t toss 50 point touchdowns, lol. They only count 6
If we traded Rosen, we would have to bring another QB in
I think Rosen should start before we even remotely think about trading him
Fitz veteran leadership, isn’t doing squat, lol
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
It’s always dark before a new dawn
I read the link ORob provided, thanks ORob
According to the herald, Minkah has asked for a trade, and the team is very close to wrapping it up..
Also Rosen will likely start the next game, Fitz isn’t getting it done
all rebuilding starts with a tear down first, then bring in the new ,and put it all together
The tearing down looks ugly, but the finished rebuild should look great, that’s the goal of a rebuild
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article235118132.html
The score in my opinion did not reflect what I perceived as some improvement from last week, at least on DEF … it’s Rosen time .. futz is doing jack shit. Start Rosen and let’s see what he’s got ….