Winless season continues, Dolphins now 0-4 heading into BYE week.

Things started off promising against the Chargers. After 3 games, in our 4th game we finally secured our first lead of the season. It was short lived however, and although we were competitive, the most competitive half to date, we still trailed after the 1st half 17-10. That didn’t bother me at all. I felt like we were in this game. The 2nd half told a different story than the first half, a more familiar story really, one in which we were basically over matched. Whatever positives we gleaned from the first half were washed away by an ineffective offense and a defense that just couldn’t hang in there as the T.O.P. swung completely in the Chargers favor. In the 1st half, we allowed the Chargers a 3 minute differential in keeping the ball. In the 2nd half, the Chargers practically had the ball the entire 2nd half, 21:05 to the Dolphins measly 8:55. That says it all.

The positives I took from the game is that if you give Josh Rosen a semblance of protection, he looks more than adequate. The 34 yard strike to WR DeVante Parker was a thing of beauty. The pass was thrown with the right amount of pace and was accurate and in stride and it looked easy. Don’t take that for granted, we’ve seen that exact scenario gone wrong so many times in the last 2 decades. What I like about Rosen is he can throw the ball some mustard when he has to, but he’s also capable of lofting a pass with a little arc and make it a much more catchable ball, like he did to Parker. Unfortunately, that was to be our only TD of the game. I mentioned in the last article, Kalen Ballage isn’t cutting it. He’s not a forceful runner, and worse, his hands out of the backfield are totally unreliable. Our version of the Cards David Johnson he will never, ever be.

Drake had a better game but I still don’t see anything that screams we need to keep him on the roster, and that’s basically what this season has become, a virtual tryout for next season and beyond. This stripped down roster will have even more players removed going into next season, so if Drake wants to make sure he’s here in 2020, he’s going to have to more than he’s currently doing. I’d say the number of players I think are a lock to make this team number less than 20. I’m hoping that number climbs as the season goes on. I’m sure some of you will argue with this, and I’m being kind with a couple of these, but these are the guys I believe that deserve to come back next season (some are also on the list due to potential). Josh Rosen, Michael Deiter, Evan Boehm, Preston Williams, Davon Godchaux, Christian Wilkins, Taco Charlton, Jerome Baker, Matt Haack, Raekwon McMillan and Sam Eguavoen. Not all of these are starters, but in my opinion deserve to be back up to this point.

Philip Rivers only missed on 6 passes. He was 24-30 for and easy 310 yards spread out to 8 different receivers. He was sacked only once (thanks to Taco!). He had an easy day out there, he really did. The Chargers didn’t need Melvin Gordon as Rivers had easy pickins all day long. Little pressure and poor coverage, many times due to not applying enough pressure gave Rivers and the Chargers an easy 2nd half. RB Austin Ekeler gave the Bolts over 120 combined yards, almost equally distributed through the run and pass game, 60 rushing, 62 receiving. He found his favorite target Keenan Allen only 5 times, but spread the ball around so well we couldn’t defend it. We are abysmal both at defending the run and pass, and when our offense can’t stay on the field, it gets worse and worse as the game goes on. All too familiar for us Dolphins fans, we’ve seen this script now for all too long and far too many times.

This the BYE week, which will undoubtedly provide us with Sonny’s Bi-Week babe. I look forward to it, and I look even more forward to the Fest which is quickly approaching, just 2 Sundays from yesterday. Can’t wait to see all of you!

GO DOLPHINS!!!

#staythecourse

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536 Responses to Winless season continues, Dolphins now 0-4 heading into BYE week.

  1. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    COPY AND PASTE

    MIAMI @ BYE

    Miami 3 BYE 2

    Bye 1 Miami 0 (Somebody slips at a pool party and breaks something!) 😦

  2. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Just the bought the orange lot parking passes for the Fest tailgate (and thinking about same general area as last year to set up). They were more this time even though seats less. Guessing that is cause building all the tennis stuff shrunk how many spots in the next-to-stadium prime tailgate area.

    Any of you guys planning to drive & park on Fest day should at least get a yellow (outside) one. Saw those for less than $20 bucks. They tend to change the price depending on demand, but paid $50 to park opening day.

    But best, safest and cheapest option is always to just hop on the Toba Bus.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Is there a pig landing pad available?

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        That’s they built the tennis courts with flying pigs in mind. But if you are leaving the wings at home cause the Skins fans pull the feathers…. talk to Toba. Could offer you a ride, but you wouldn’t like what time you have to show at my place.

  3. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Raekwon McMillan isn’t just being used at ILB, the coaches are using him at all the linebacker positions which they would prefer all their LBs be able to do. McMillan has embraced it and is improving every week. This fits into the multiple approach. In the big scheme of things this is just the beginning of developing players differently than in the past.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      I hate newspapers that have gotten fucking lazy and don’t write anything anymore. ANYFUCKINGONE can post a video. How about you write what he says in an article.

      This is all due to fucking millennials and fucking facebook!

  4. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Speaking of the Shuttle…

    I need to get a preliminary head count to book right sized vehicle…
    usually have 2 P/ups.. 1 at Neptune, and 1 at Margaritaville..

    if you guys can treat this like the Weekly predictions.. COPY AND PASTE.. please add name and # requiring ride.. Thank you .. looking forward to warm weather, cold beers and Fun People..

    Toba 2 @Margaritaville

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      I am driving / parking separately from you all. I will text when I am close so you guys can steer me to the right light post.

      • D's avatar D says:

        They can probably spot you by your aura of disappointment that is following you around this year 🙂

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Rock — take the Toba bus. You said were getting a room and will be a lot cheaper than you parking your own car.

  5. D's avatar D says:

    Broncos RT Ja’Wuan James (knee) returned to practice Wednesday.
    —————————————————
    Woohooo come on comp pick start climbing!

    Oh and Stanger, i thought of something the other day. If the comp pick is not taking ito consideration what they do this year, how much playing time they have this year, then the comp picks could be assigned before the end of the year and they only are calculated after the beginning of the new NFL year. So while i cant say for sure, i think that does give credence to the fact something that happens during the year this year affects the formula.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      How are NFL compensatory picks determined?
      The picks are awarded to teams that lose more, or better, compensatory free agents than they have acquired in the previous year. Learn about the rules of the NFL Draft. Compensatory free agents are determined by a formula developed by the NFL Management Council based on salary, playing time and postseason honors.

      • D's avatar D says:

        The better part is the key though. The better is determined by playing time, post season honors, etc. I posted two links the other day that went into more detail and did say that performance markers definitely were part of the formula.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I think you are correct.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      D — I’m not doubting that at least some current year., even if wouldn’t be surprised if not. Back to the formula is secret…. so can never insist am right about it. But do you really think that if has not one bit to do with the current season that the NFL would announce the comp picks for the next draft before the season is over? Sorta thinking they would choose to wait.

  6. D's avatar D says:

    This is all due to fucking millennials and fucking facebook!
    ———————————————-
    Ive fucked a few millenials, never fucked facebook, so i guess i might be part of the problem…..

  7. D's avatar D says:

    Talk about an NFL original, this guy’s personal history goes back all the way to the beginning too.

    Cardinals owner Bill Bidwill passed away Wednesday at the age of 88.

  8. D's avatar D says:

    Ravens waived OLB Tim Williams.
    —————————————————
    Id kick the tires on Williams, young, high draft pedigree, wouldnt hurt much to try him out.

  9. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    The NFL keeps the compensatory pick formula a secret, so any predetermination is just a guess.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It’s not really a secret, it’s just not that cut and dried. It’s a numbers crunch so there really is nothing they could put out there that we fans could figure out. It’s different all the time. I posted what the basic formula is above.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        It’s at least not public. And if is different all the time….. how can you figure out whether the comp pick next year for James is a 3rd, 4th or 5th? Best you can do is go off what has happened before.

    • D's avatar D says:

      You can reverse engineer most any formula. I have seen those little whiztards on MMO video games that reverse engineer really complex combat formulas to know exactly what stats they have to win, im sure the compensatory formula by comparison is fucking childs play lol.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Yes you would need a computer to do it. But in the big scheme of things does it really matter if we know the exact details?

  10. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, they have to crunch every team’s FA losses vs. gains, salaries of FAs, performance and postseason honors. How could there be a cut and dried formula year to year? The comp pick for James or any other players are pure speculation based on what people have seen in the past.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      I agree. Maybe it is the formula thing that got me. You can have one of those that never changes yet different answers come up when you plug different numbers in. Man did I just sound like a math nerd. 🙂

      But bottom line for me is that formula is not public, whether changes each year or not.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      The formula stays the same the variables change. Why would they change it often?

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        The variables are part of the formula. That’s why it’s not easy to determine what teams will get what until all the variables are crunched.

        A simple formula would be if a player signs this size deal and the team that lost him didn’t sign a player of same contract value, it’s a 3rd pick. But that’s not all it is.

  11. D's avatar D says:

    Over time formula exposes itself. The only way it would would be if it changed year to year, and that would smell of tampering. If the formula is fair, its static, if its static, over the course of a few years you can expose the patterns in who got awarded what, so year by year the refining of that analysis gets you closer and closer to the factors that affect it, and how strongly they affect it. Like i said, it can be reverse engineered, and static formula can be.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Free agency isn’t exactly the same every year.

      • D's avatar D says:

        Yeah but thats not a variable its a scale-able constant. It changes year to year but only in the sense of the scale set by that year’s FA group, so even in the long run thats a constant. Like the idea that 150 in a 1000 point scaled system is the same as 1500 in a 10000 point scaled system.

      • D's avatar D says:

        Stanger, i saw your math nerd and upped the bet, your turn lol.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        D — the formula is secret. And given that it is that means Tim could be right that they change it every year. So back to how can you predict anything with certainty when don’t know if 2+2 = 4, even if it did the year before? Which yes would mean all you can do is reverse engineer the results from an equation you never even knew.

  12. D's avatar D says:

    To me i just like to know James on the field might mean a 3rd instead of a 4th lol, so James please stay healthy 🙂

  13. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    D, what I mean is we’ve seen years with heavy comp picks being rewarded and other years it’s light. It depends on how much movement and high caliber FAs. You kind of get the idea of how it works when the Pats get rewarded comp picks a lot because they let quality players walk and don’t sign many. There are a lot of variables involved. That’s why I think it’s difficult to project.

  14. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, I don’t mean the formula changes, but FA isn’t always the same year to year. Some years are heavy FA activity and other years not as much. Then if you take performance and postseason honors into account the value of the comp picks are not always cut and dried.

    Example: A FA like James signs a good deal like he did with Denver this year, plays every snap at a high level, is voted all pro and makes the pro bowl. Or he misses quite a bit of playing time, plays average and doesn’t get any of those awards, the comp pick value will be different.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      I’m not even sure that about James is true…. but goes back to the formula is a secret. Think what happened the year before the contract is far more important, but D has convinced me that some post-contract metrics do come into play. Wondering if that mainly about hitting performance bonuses in the new contract though… which yes could include snaps played, pro-bowl honors and such. Even if indirectly.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        That’s just it, it’s about so many things it’s not cut and dried. It’s not a secret, it’s unknown until it all comes together.

  15. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Percy Harvin: “There’s not a game that I played in that I wasn’t high”

  16. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    stangerx says:
    October 2, 2019 at 3:58 pm
    Rock — take the Toba bus. You said were getting a room and will be a lot cheaper than you parking your own car

    I said I was thinking about it. After looking at room availability and price I’ll drive the extra 30 mins each way.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Rock — of course up to you. All you need to do to make sure you find the tailgate is that Ken has your contact info. And if you are on the Toba bus that not even needed.

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        Oh I have 6 or eight of these bozo’s numbers. They tortured me with group texts

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Then you will find the tailgate. Hope you choose to do the whole weekend though. Tunes with the Dog is pretty darn cool.

  17. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Tim Knight says:
    October 2, 2019 at 4:34 pm
    Stanger, they have to crunch every team’s FA losses vs. gains, salaries of FAs, performance and postseason honors.

    Not to mention that the salaries keep increasing and position pay change per trends in the game. You could go by a formula that’s say “well he gets paid x so that is a fixed value.” Pretty sure Tannehill got paid more per year than Marino. “ gets paid more” has to be relative.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Another example is say a player you lose signs a big deal and is a bust for the team he signed with, and you signed a FA at a lesser deal but he had a great year, they will probably determine that you really didn’t lose much value therefore your roster didn’t take the hit it looked like during FA and don’t need extra draft compensation.

      If the formula was static, you would know exactly what compensation you were getting regardless of how it played out during the season. But that’s not how it works as we know.

  18. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    It doesn’t matter what the formula is because some of the variable criteria is subjective. How do you measure ‘performance’ as a variable? Or ‘loss vs gain’? That is the reason they keep it ‘secret’, or at least muddled, so they don’t have to constantly explain themselves in regards to how they weigh and measure that data.

    Whatever the formula, you can bet your left nut there is a ‘Patriots player’ compounding function as part of the equation.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      If we’re being technical it would be a ‘coefficient’ as opposed to a ‘compounding function’. lol, not that anyone cares.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      How do you measure ‘performance’ as a variable? Or ‘loss vs gain’?

      Snaps played and postseason honors. If you lost a player who went on to be a top player that year and you signed nobody that matched that. They will determine you have a void on your roster due to a loss in FA. That’s the basis of the system.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        LOL, what is a ‘top’ player? Is being labeled a top player purely based on postseason ‘honors’? What does that mean by the way? Not everyone wins defensive player of the year, lol.

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        You lose a mediocre WR to a big contract and sign the best blocking fullback in the game for cheep

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        Ar there different levels of ‘top’ players? What are those criteria and scales? Do post season honors include whatever your team gives you to? What about team captain? What about man of the year awards? Can you have an amazing year on the field, but not win MVP, offensive player of the year, or any other league awards but meet certain contract criteria to increase your salary, how are those calculated?

        Or to make it simpler, what is a top player again? lol

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        Good point, Rock. how do you evaluate ‘top’ players by position, then offset a FB vs a QB or WR? Si the best punter in the game worth more than a pretty good DE?

        I bet half the criteria is subjective, which again is why it is secret.

  19. Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

    Toba Bus.
    Phindog +2

  20. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Tim,

    I do understand your point. We can look at losing James and what we picked up in return and say “we’re getting a 3rd” for James. My point was it’s pointless to argue over specifics because of the subjective nature of some of these vafriables, and the fact we don’t know enough because of it. We can only guess, generally speaking, lol.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      And if we were the Patriots, we’d know the Patriot coefficient would guarantee a 3rd rd pick regardless of other factors. But being the Dolphins, I wouldn’t be surprised if we somehow end up with a 4th…

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Cax — I just think it great that we can all debate the secret NFL formula on this. No one can ever be wrong. What a great bye week discussion…. including turning it conspiracy theory like you just did. 🙂

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        Muahaha 👿
        lol

  21. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    The formula does seem capricious/arbitrary, certainly subjective and subject to manipulation/favoritism.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      If the formula is secret, then as open to manipulation as could be. Doesn’t mean that happens…. but how could anyone ever know otherwise unless someone spilled the beans?

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Teams’ personnel departments have a much better idea of what the comp system is than we do. They likely have people who gauge it. Remember when we traded a future 3rd and 4th for Carroo, the Dolphins were pretty sure they were going to get at least a 3rd and 4th comp pick and we did. So teams could call foul and investigate any manipulation/favoritism.

      I know everyone is suspicious of all things Patriots but if you look at why they get comp picks most years you can see why and there have been years when they got none.

      There was a time when teams were suspicious about the Dolphins too, specifically Shula being on the competition committee which I thought was a bit of a reach. It’s not like he could override everyone else and make it better for the Dolphins alone.

  22. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Speaking of the Shuttle…

    I need to get a preliminary head count to book right sized vehicle…
    usually have 2 P/ups.. 1 at Neptune, and 1 at Margaritaville..

    if you guys can treat this like the Weekly predictions.. COPY AND PASTE.. please add name and # requiring ride.. Thank you .. looking forward to warm weather, cold beers and Fun People..

    Toba 2 @Margaritaville
    Phindog +2

  23. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    MIAMI DOLPHINS
    Projected compensatory picks: One in Round 3; one in Round 5.
    Key free-agent losses: Ja’Wuan James (Broncos); Cameron Wake (Titans).
    Key free-agent additions: Ryan Fitzpatrick (Buccaneers); Eric Rowe (Patriots).
    Comp-pick analysis: The Dolphins essentially chose the value of a third-round comp pick over Ja’Wuan James, who left for a hefty contract in Denver. The reasonable contracts given to Ryan Fitzpatrick and Eric Rowe end up cancelling out losses like Frank Gore and Brandon Bolden and allow the Dolphins to maintain what should be a fifth-rounder for the departure of longtime sack man Cameron Wake.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001030378/article/2020-nfl-draft-compensatory-pick-projections-for-every-team

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Right, those are projections not a guarantee. Being that we did not sign any major FAs we will receive some comp picks as we are considered to be a team void of quality talent. That’s what the system is all about – to help keep the competition level better through draft compensation after FA losses. But they can only go so far, that’s why a 3rd is the highest pick you can get.

  24. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Kong, top player were my words, meaning all pro/pro bowl, production/stats.

    The whole idea of the comp system is to help teams that had their roster stripped of quality talent.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      I understand the idea behind the system. I’m just saying if it was a standard formula (even if a complex one), I believe it would be out there. I think D mentioned it above, it could be reverse engineered if the criteria were stable.

      But the concept of performance almost certainly isn’t only statistically quantified but rather is likely graded (i.e. a player’s performance is measured and he is given a grade to input into the formula). For players that stats don’t tell the tale, most DT or FB would be prime examples, it has to be a person or people judging ‘this guy is a top player’. Any formula with subjective criteria like that means there is a level of ambiguity.

      Most of the criteria I listed in my above posts can be given a numerical value in a formula, but not all.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        The market through agents is a big part of it. If a player gets a big contract from a team, isn’t it widely accepted that the player is a top player? So that plays a role in the quality and value which determines losses vs. gains. It’s a lot of variables for sure.

        Let’s watch the Jets, they should not receive any compensatory picks in 2020. They were big spenders and I can’t even remember who they lost of any significance.

  25. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Shuttle

    Toba 2 @Margaritaville
    Phindog +2
    Piggy 1

  26. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  27. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    How do you compare a QB to an OT to a FS to a RB to a LB to a P when it comes to an equation on overall comp pick value?

    Whatever the exact formula….. the lion’s share has to be money made.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I think they do based on the market for those positions and which players get the big contracts vs. the ones who are 2nd or a lesser tier. That’s why it’s unique every year.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Only thing am sure of is that I don’t know. But the money has to play into it more than anything else.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Agreed. The contracts that FA’s sign sets the value. It definitely starts there. That’s where the projections/speculations come from, it’s the other factors that throws us off sometimes.

        Bottom line is we have plenty of cap space and a lot of draft capital in 2020. I’m not that concerned about comp picks for the Phins. If a 3rd and 5th comp pick is the key as opposed to three 1’s, two 2’s and a 3rd then we fucked up. LOL

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        LOL @ Tim

        Finsmobunleashed circa 2023

        Kong says:
        Fucking Chris Grier!! We would have a SB title and still be contending for SBs if he’d addressed the backup LB position with the 2020 5th rd comp pick!! A pox on his whole damned family!!

        Kong says:
        Luckily, it looks like Brady might retire sometime in the next couple of years, so the division might be up for grabs soon!

  28. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I think we’d love to land a QB, Edge and OL with our 3 1st rd picks but that might not be BPA with every pick.

  29. D's avatar D says:

    Man that Astros starting pitcher lineup reminds me of the 90s braves if not better

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      I was just talking about that with a friend and we were talking about Maddux and Glavine. We were trying to remember who the 3rd stud of that rotation was.

  30. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    CavalierKong says:
    October 2, 2019 at 6:07 pm
    …Whatever the formula, you can bet your left nut there is a ‘Patriots player’ compounding function as part of the equation.
    ——————-
    EXACTLY!

  31. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Those early 90s Braves teams were one of my favorites. Mark Lemke, Sid Bream, Terry Pendleton, Dave Justice, Ron Gant, and the aforementioned pitching of Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz.

  32. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    CavalierKong says:
    October 2, 2019 at 9:17 pm
    How do you go from a Pirates fan to an Astros fan?
    ——————————————————————–
    Well when the pirates decided to be a farm program in the 90’s half of my favorite players ended up in Houston!

    And I happened to be in Houston to go watch them!

  33. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    CavalierKong says:
    October 2, 2019 at 9:03 pm
    AHH, yes, Smoltz! Can’t believe I forgot him. Thanks. I stubbornly refused to google it, lol.
    —————
    All good! And I’m only quoting from memory… that was my team in the early 90s, so I may have gotten some players wrong. I wore a very rare black, pin-striped Braves’ jersey for one of my first album shoots. Man… those were the days!

  34. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I hate this draft but still got so,e good players

    1: R1P1
    EDGE CHASE YOUNG
    OHIO STATE
    9: R1P9
    WR LAVISKA SHENAULT JR.
    COLORADO
    24: R1P24
    QB JORDAN LOVE
    UTAH STATE
    33: R2P1
    CB JEFFREY OKUDAH
    OHIO STATE
    55: R2P23
    RB JONATHAN TAYLOR
    WISCONSIN
    65: R3P1
    WR KENDRICK ROGERS
    TEXAS A&M
    105: R3P41
    G JONAH JACKSON
    OHIO STATE
    154: R5P8
    OT JACK DRISCOLL
    AUBURN
    178: R5P32
    CB MIKE HAMPTON
    SOUTH FLORIDA
    179: R6P1
    G ZACH ROBERTSON
    ARIZONA STATE
    209: R6P31
    RB LARRY ROUNTREE III
    MISSOURI
    245: R7P30
    DL BENITO JONES
    MISSISSIPPI

  35. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Tim Knight says:
    October 2, 2019 at 9:21 pm
    Chipper?!!! He named his daughter Shea fuckface!!!! LOL
    ————–
    I had to look this up to understand what you were talking about. LMFAO! It was his son, what an unbelievable ‘fuck you’ to a rival!

    https://www.mlb.com/cut4/hall-of-famer-chipper-jones-named-his-son-shea/c-287295354

  36. Dloxahatchee's avatar dloxahatchee says:

    Listening to some crazy stats on the radio today regarding P Mahomes and the Dolphins

    Was something like he has more yards passing on first downs alone than we have total passing yards , basically the same with touchdowns
    Some ridiculous stats like this

    It suddenly hit me, yes it’s a team sport, yes we liked Rosen enough to pick him up
    Bla bla bla

    These guys are going after Qb in this draft
    They are going to try and grab a ringer if at all possible

    Just a thought

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Mahomes is great, he’s awesome!!! But he also has a very good cast around him. I’d take him #1 if I was starting a team tomorrow.

  37. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Steve Avery pitched really well at times for those Braves too

  38. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Tim Knight says:
    October 2, 2019 at 11:15 pm
    Mahomes is great, he’s awesome!!! But he also has a very good cast around him. I’d take him #1 if I was starting a team tomorrow

    KC has been 69-31 since Ried took over. He was winning 10, 11, 12 games per year with Smith at QB. Yeah Mahomes is awesome but he came into a very good situation.

  39. Dloxahatchee's avatar dloxahatchee says:

    Kind of think that that’s the point of Mahomes
    Yes they have a great cast around him
    Yes they were a playoff team prior to him
    But with him, now the team is a contender
    And probably for years to come

  40. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Wilkins said he didn’t know picking a guy up who’s forward progress had stopped and pulling a WWF suplexe move on him slamming him to the ground was illegal. LOL!

  41. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Man, Mahomee’s arm must be really tired caring all those SB rings around! 😉

  42. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Andy Reid can’t win the big game

  43. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    round 1 pick 1, trade back 8 spots pick up a 1st in 21…a 1st in 22 and a 2nd in 20 plus the number 8 overal in 20.
    you like apples?

  44. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I don’t want a WR in the 1st RD. QB, pass rusher, OL, and if we don’t want a QB, just OL and pass rushers

  45. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    GO RAYS!

  46. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    The reason Grier seems to miss on some #1s is he only has had 1 per year, the draft is a crap shoot and the odds are not that good on hitting a home run picking late in the 1st like we did with Harris which was a foul ball.

    after that and other questionable 1st rounders Grier doesnt seem to look all that great.
    fast forward to 2020 with 5 picks in the top 50 or so, he has room to miss and a high probability to hit on multiple home runs.

    he’ll look like a genus down the road if he keeps restocking these early picks for future 1s,
    and it appears that’s what he’s doing.

  47. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  48. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I’m going to the Yankees v twins game Saturday

  49. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    “The 2017 and 2018 teams were two of only five in team history to have a negative point differential in triple digits. The other three? The team’s first two seasons (ever) in 1966 and 1967 and the 1-15 team in 2007.” — both a comment on the Gase tenure and the need to blow it up.

  50. D's avatar D says:

    UF pass rusher/lb Jonathan Greenard is a really solid hybid OLB/edge guy. Some of the DTs can really wreck the front of a pocket. Zuniga from UF is probably a mid to upper mid round prospect who is a really good speed rusher. Both OT from Auburn are solid. Auburn has a really good DT prospect, a Wilkins type player. I’d also watch a couple of the WRs and CBs from UF too

  51. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    It’s pretty nuts that Saquon Barkley may play on Sunday, only 2 weeks after suffering a high ankle sprain.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Even if doubt he plays Sunday, young kids heal quick. You ever notice how as you get older “the sore” takes longer to hit? That’s cause your body doesn’t recover as fast.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        He may not play, but he’s running and cutting (vid’s on NFL.com). Most people would be using crutches still. And yeah, biggest reason my friends and I don’t play football anymore is recovery is a much longer process than it used to be, lol.

      • D's avatar D says:

        Mikey is so old his soreness will have to be handed down for several generations for his recovery

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        LOL

  52. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Kong, my friends and I played a lot of touch football back in the 90’s on Saturdays after being out until 2-4 in the morning. We’d be sore on Sunday but on Monday we couldn’t walk. LOL

  53. D's avatar D says:

    Also, the reason you don’t recover is that at age 30 one of the chemicals that your body produces that is muscles and tissue repair related begins to really drop off in production. By 40 it’s almost completely done. That’s why most players hit the 30 wall. Only a small number of people carry the production of that chemical later into their lives. It’s one of the almost set your clock by it things about the human body and it’s consistent across a lot of genetically different people, different races, etc.

  54. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    As it turns out I’m not going to the yankee game

    My friend who sent me the text invited people, not the actual game, but too watch it at his apt

    He just laughed at me when I told him how excited I was to go to yankee stadium…anyway, I’ll be watching the yankee game Saturday evening…

  55. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    First two Fests we played touch football. These days someone brings a football, Mike E grabs it and tries to talk someone into going out on a pattern instead of just tossing it back and forth.

  56. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I have to say after the first 4 games Charles Harris seems to lack just enough of whatever that he just can’t close and make plays in the backfield. He had a good game in week 2 but he disappears all too often. He gives great effort but he struggles to get off blocks by big tackles. A lot of teams liked him in the draft so it’s not like we picked a bad prospect at the time, but he hasn’t panned out to be what he was supposed to be. He’ll have the rest of the season to turn that around but I’m not that optimistic he will.

  57. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    1: R1P1 QB JUSTIN HERBERT OREGON
    9: R1P9 OT TRISTAN WIRFS IOWA
    24: R1P24 CB CJ HENDERSON FLORIDA
    33: R2P1 G BEN BREDESON MICHIGAN
    55: R2P23 RB JONATHAN TAYLOR WISCONSIN
    70: R3P6 DL JORDAN ELLIOTT MISSOURI
    105: R3P41 EDGE JONATHAN GARVIN MIAMI
    112: R4P6 LB JACOB PHILLIPS LSU
    154: R5P8 EDGE KYAHVA TEZINO SAN DIEGO STATE
    178: R5P32 OT JACK DRISCOLL AUBURN
    179: R6P1 CB JULIAN BLACKMON UTAH
    209: R6P31 S JORDAN FULLER OHIO STATE
    245: R7P30 OT GEWHITE STALLWORTH LOUISIANA TECH

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      If there are edge rushers available early I expect us to draft one. That’s a have to have. We targeted both Flowers and Clowney in the offseason. We’re definitely hunting for them.

  58. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Mickey Callaway fired. I don’t think he’s the problem, the bullpen blew more than a 42nd street full of hookers. Seemed like the players really liked him

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Agreed. The bullpen blew over 20 late inning leads that lead to losses. Cut that in half and we’re in the playoffs. Focus on the bullpen and acquire Mookie Betts and we could be in the world series next year. 🙂

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Mets GM Brodie Van Wagenen says he’s not trading Noah Syndergaard or Edwin Diaz. So the idea is get them back on their games. They’re both young with top level stuff.
        deGrom, Syndergaard, Matz, Stroman and an upgraded bullpen.

  59. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Kristina Pink sounds like a porn star name but she’s just a cute (hot) sideline reporter for tonight’s game.

  60. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    6: R1P6 QB JUSTIN HERBERT OREGON
    9: R1P9 EDGE NICK COE AUBURN
    24: R1P24 CB BRYCE HALL VIRGINIA
    33: R2P1 EDGE TERRELL LEWIS ALABAMA
    38: R2P6 G BEN BREDESON MICHIGAN
    55: R2P23 RB JONATHAN TAYLOR WISCONSIN
    65: R3P1 OT PRINCE TEGA WANOGHOAUBURN
    70: R3P6 S XAIVER MCKINNEY ALABAMA
    105: R3P41 C CESAR RUIZ MICHIGAN
    112: R4P6 WR TYLAN WALLACE OKLAHOMA STATE
    147: R5P1 EDGE CHRISTIAN RECTOR USC
    154: R5P8 EDGE BRYCE STERK MONTANA STATE
    178: R5P32 OT JACK DRISCOLL AUBURN
    179: R6P1 LB MALIK HARRISON OHIO STATE
    209: R6P31 TE KYLE PENNISTON WISCONSIN
    210: R6P32 RB LARRY ROUNTREE III MISSOURI
    245: R7P30 K CONNOR LIMPERT ARKANSAS

    PLUS I GOT ARIZONA’S 1st & 3rd round pick next year!!!

    #ROCKPHINTRADYPANTSFORGM

  61. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    I’m on the Toba bus by the way

  62. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Elephant, are you coming to the Fest?

  63. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I am so looking forward to that noogie. LOL

  64. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    I have this Casio piano/organ does 100 different things if anyone can play I’ll bring it

  65. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    The officials stopped a turnover progress because of why?

  66. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    October 3, 2019 at 7:37 pm
    I have to say after the first 4 games Charles Harris seems to lack just enough of whatever that he just can’t close and make plays in the backfield. He had a good game in week 2 but he disappears all too often. He gives great effort but he struggles to get off blocks by big tackles. A lot of teams liked him in the draft so it’s not like we picked a bad prospect at the time, but he hasn’t panned out to be what he was supposed to be. He’ll have the rest of the season to turn that around but I’m not that optimistic he will.
    —————
    I can honestly tell you that I never thought Charles Harris would go in the 1st round. When Goodell called his name for us, I was just about ready to punch my television. Instead, I chose to trust the process… never mind that I was all about Takk McKinley [the 3rd UCLA stud LB to be drafted in consecutive years, after Ant Barr and Eric Kendricks (they became the NEW LB University under Jim Mora, Jr.)].

    I agree with you… I’m not optimistic about him right now either… but then again, I never was.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Yeah a lot of fans were lukewarm about Harris but a lot of teams liked him. I’m bummed about him because he has a great attitude and work ethic, but it seems he’s not quite good enough.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Same here. I’ve been rooting for the kid (obviously!), but he just can’t seem to put it all together.

  67. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    October 3, 2019 at 7:51 pm
    If there are edge rushers available early I expect us to draft one. That’s a have to have. We targeted both Flowers and Clowney in the offseason. We’re definitely hunting for them.
    ——————–
    +1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I think we’ll target one in FA too.

      Nkemdiche at DT/DE and Charlton as an Edge could be sleepers. We’ve got some solid interior DL but we need more impact in general from our defensive front. I expect that to be an area we address heavily. The OL too. The trenches will be the biggest focus outside of one of the glorious QBs. LOL

  68. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I have NO musical ability Son.

  69. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Does anyone know what channel the rams seahawks game is on?

  70. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Son : how many of you into bus ??

  71. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Son

    Sadly no. Things are not going to come close to working out. 😦

    Things will hopefully line up next year.

  72. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Shuttle. Please add copy and paste 👍

    Toba 2 @Margaritaville
    Phindog +2
    Piggy 1
    Son ?????

  73. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Tim Knight says:
    October 3, 2019 at 7:37 pm
    I have to say after the first 4 games Charles Harris seems to lack just enough of whatever that he just can’t close and make plays in the backfield. He had a good game in week 2 but he disappears all too often. He gives great effort but he struggles to get off blocks by big tackles. A lot of teams liked him in the draft so it’s not like we picked a bad prospect at the time, but he hasn’t panned out to be what he was supposed to be. He’ll have the rest of the season to turn that around but I’m not that optimistic he will.
    Reply

    *****
    I thought he was better as a rookie than he is now

  74. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    OK, last one for a while

    1: R1P1 EDGE CHASE YOUNG OHIO STATE
    9: R1P9 QB JUSTIN HERBERT OREGON
    24: R1P24 G TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN
    33: R2P1 RB JONATHAN TAYLOR WISCONSIN
    55: R2P23 OT YASIR DURANT MISSOURI
    65: R3P1 WR K.J. HILL OHIO STATE
    105: R3P41 WR TARIK BLACK MICHIGAN
    154: R5P8 C JAKE HANSON OREGON
    178: R5P32 DL LORENZO NEAL PURDUE
    179: R6P1 DL KHALIL DAVIS NEBRASKA
    209: R6P31 DL NYLES PINCKNEY CLEMSON
    245: R7P30 P TOMMY TOWNSEND FLORIDA

  75. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Just found out Dish dumped Fox, Damn!

  76. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    not getting it on NFLN either, got some lame highlights on there.

  77. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Shuttle. Please add copy and paste 👍

    Toba 2
    Phindog 3
    Piggy 1
    Son 4

  78. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Those Seagulls uniforms are awful

  79. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Best QB from that “draft of a lifetime” was picked in the 3rd round.

  80. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Russell Wilson is really good.

  81. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Rockphin says:
    October 3, 2019 at 9:04 pm

    all four are for his ass
    son of a son of a shula says:
    October 3, 2019 at 9:27 pm

    Dick

    WOW! it must be huge! LOL

  82. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    mf13ss says:
    October 3, 2019 at 9:04 pm
    I cut the cord on my cable bill, got a digital antenna to pick up free local and national broadcasts, and Firestick/internet for anything else I want to watch.
    ————-
    I did the same. Firstrowsports is my best friend.

  83. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Go Cards!

  84. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Amazon Prime video has
    Band of Brothers
    The Pacific
    And 8 seasons of Curb Your Enthusiasm

    Plus I have Hulu live and Netflix. Roku has some free programming as well as some other streaming networks.

  85. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    I just google nfl streams on reddit. Scroll to the Fins and haven’t had a problem.

  86. twicethethe's avatar twicethethe says:

    Shuttle. Please add copy and paste 👍

    Toba 2
    Phindog 3
    Piggy 1
    Son 4
    Twice 1

  87. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Shuttle. Please add copy and paste 👍

    Toba 2
    Phindog 3
    Piggy 1
    Son 4
    Twice 1
    MikeE 2

    *My son Brian may try and get some last minute flights, but as it stands now, just 2 of us. I’ll let you know if anything changes Toba – Thanks bud!

  88. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Let the feeding frenzy begin and the title of this one is from SI. — “What are the odds the Miami Dolphins go 0-16?” Least some bookie decided the answer is more likely not.
    ——————————-
    How likely is it for Miami to go 0-16? According to Sports Betting Dime, the Dolphins odds of going 0-16 are as follows:
    Yes +250
    No -400

  89. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    The Redskins are starting Colt McCoy over Haskins this week. Another rumor that a team drafted a QB the HC didn’t want.

  90. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Chef Warren wanted you guys to know he is doing smoked prime rib again this year. He apologizes for not trying something new but with the toddler and all figured just best to go with what he knows best.

  91. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  92. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    I just saw a woman who is the cross between Lizzie Warren and Amy Klobuchar. Had the Warren haircut and the “I will fucking kill you” face of Klobuchar. Freaky.
    I’m taking her pic, I’ll show you guys next week.

  93. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Why do the Braves feel they need to wear red jerseys when the Cardinals are known as the red birds? The Braves have a dark blue jersey too.

  94. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Jalen Ramsey is a dumbass. Wants to be traded so he proceeds to tank his trade value by claiming a chronic bad back and missing games. They should offer the Jags a 7th for him.

  95. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    I’ll start. This is for everyone going the Fest next week

  96. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Watch the OBJ clone on UCF tonight against Cincinnati- Gabe Davis he even wears the 13.

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